Who is the better hero/character?

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>>149047880
>Not posting the new Mc

>>149047880
both are shit
all might is fake and saitama does give a fuck

> capeshit

ELEMEYO even Goku is a better hero than these 2.

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the better choice: mumen raida

>>149047880

Saitama is entertaining to watch when he's on screen, not so much with All Might.

>>149048245

DUDE ONE PUNCH LMAO
DUDE GROCERY SALES LMAO

>>149048068


>All Might is fake
Elaborate

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>>149048231

>>149048307

Can't get enough of it really.

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>>149048068
he wasn't fake, he could just only be real for a limited amount of time

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>>149048245
>All Might
>not entertaining

>>149048474
I want to see cum dripping out of that smile.

>>149048535

I like him when he's No Might.

>>149048474
All Granny is not for bully

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>>149048691

>>149048307
>>149048399
Saitama's "LEL I AM TOO STRONG" gag got old really quick.

All Might is actually a character and is not just one gimmick. He's more fleshed out and is more interesting than Saitama. It's much more satisfying to see All Might being cool because we know what his struggles are.

>>149049167
>Saitama's "LEL I AM TOO STRONG" gag got old really quick.
Like Mechazawa's joke in Cromartie

>>149047880
Saitama might be the strongest dude, but he's a shit hero. All Might is 10/10 hero, and an even better character when he deflates.

All Might is like 35 and dying, right? Poor dude, thats hardly a life. Did we ever get a proper timeline for him?

>>149049307
>Mechazawa's joke
What joke?

>>149047880
>America or Daiz with cape

>>149049568
That one

>>149048068
>not liking All-might
kill yourself

Saitama is the better character. All Might is the better hero.

>>149049167

>more fleshed out and is more interesting than Saitama

We hardly know anything about All Might.

>All Might being cool because we know what his struggles are

He's a guy who's mentoring a kid and pretty badly at that. And being retired and apparently dying has been done before.

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>>149050008
That's not even true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYmFIjCvwDU

>>149050514
>We hardly know anything about All Might.

He was born quirkless and also earned his power through his teachers to have OfA. It was his idea to use OFA to be a symbol of peace and he's learning to be a teacher.

Tbh what sets him apart from saitama is his emotions. Saitama can't take anything seriously while all might has to and has to adapt with the obstacle against him.

>>149049673
What one? what's wrong with mechazawa?

>>149047880
obviously saitama
we barely know anything of all might and he's just downright boring
also,can't stand to read any of that crap anyway
horikoshi seems to be just flinging cliches

>>149047880

Allmight since he has the passion for heroism and the determination to pay the ultimate price for it.

Saitama wishes he could be Allmight, and I don't mean it in a condescending way, Saitama WISHES he could struggle like Allmight does.

They are both great hero/characters.

All Might has the dignity and prescience of a real hero and throw himself into the fray because he truly stands for truth and justice and wants to help people even if he's on his last leg.

Saitama on the other hand has the power and the will to crush any danger, and he does it happily, not because of fame, but because he likes being a good guy. He's not known, but his existence is one of security, since he will be there to end any true threat to the world

>>149052142
But Saitama has that same passion and determination. He was so passionate and determined to be the best hero he could be that he ruined any chance of having to struggle against enemies anymore.

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No contest.

>>149048372
fuck you nigga, how dare you.

Saitama doesn't care to inspire others, despite doing so.
All Might only wants to be a symbol of hope for everyone.
All Might has better intentions but neither are "good" heroes (since crime has lessened in either universe)

>>149052434

Guess I worded it wrong

Allmight since he has the passion for heroism that Saitama lost and the determination to pay the ultimate price that Saitama will never be able to put to the test again.

Not downplaying Saitama's ridiculously strong willpower, but ultimately he became a hero for fun.

>>149047880
They are pretty different, both being characters that punch aside.

Saitama would win in a fight, but hes comically OP so thats a given.

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>>149047880
Blast

>>149052598

>(since crime has lessened in either universe)

I assume you meant hasn't lessened.

And if that's the cause then it's wrong. All Might put crim in a historic low with his Symbol of Peace strategy. The flaw of it was that it would only last as long as his own career.

>>149052434

But that's wrong. He half-assed it with some lame workout and then suddenly became powerful for some reason that he doesn't understand at all.

Saitama had the kind of vanilla dream that every normie has all thier lives: A vague idea that feels good in his head, but never elicits more than the most pedestrian passion and casual effort from him.

Has anyone here actually read the OPM manga and webcomic? Saitama isn't the greatest character of all time, but he's far from just being a one trick pony. He does care about inspiring people, but his character is more complex than that.

How many people here actually read the police chapter?

>>149052628
Nah man, Saitama still has that passion, I mean even though he is bored out of his mind with his hobby he still works hard to be a hero since he enjoys it. And the determination to pay the ultimate price isn't really a measurement of being a better character or hero. Even when he was a normal person Saitama threw himself against enemies that could easily slaughter him. His dream sequence showed he actually wishes he could have an enemy he could throw everything at and struggle to the death to defeat to save the Earth. The guy overleveled just so he could throw himself at the worst threats, so it's not really against Saitama's heroism.

>>149052717
>Half-assed it with some lame workout
Saitama went through his own personal hell with his work out, it was nothing you can 'half-ass'

>>149052823
Not enough

>>149052836

The core of the issue is that Saitama, while having all the correct ideas of true heroism in his heart, ultimately decided to become one for kicks.

Allmight did it out of a sense of duty to the people, a desire to serve and better society, and sorta pathological selflessness.

>>149047880
All might because he's a Westaboo and that's just dank as fuck

Both punch things really hard.

>>149053011
Yeah, sure, Saitama did become a hero for a bit of a selfish reason, but his selfishness is he likes being good. He doesn't care about serving society, or duty to people, he just wants to do good, plain and simple. I mean look at the two times he had to go up against citizens. The first time he practically cussed them out for expecting him to care about their personal problems when he just saved the whole city, the second time he made himself look like garbage to protect the other heroes from being seen as worthless. So yeah, Saitama isn't a pillar of justice and duty like All Might was, and he is certainly selfish, petty and uncaring, but he cares about whats right and doing right.

Another thing is, because Saitama is so damn powerful, he can see things from another perspective. Do you think All Might would have been able to deal with Garou like Saitama did? As fantastic as All Might is, I feel he would have treated Garou like all the other heroes did and just tried to beat him down, where as Saitama could see through his issues and realize it was just some kid having a tantrum

>>149053011

All Might came from a background where he had a hero mentor whose ideals most probably rubbed off on him and inherited the power to realize them.

Saitama was some guy trapped in a mundane life that realized he could become a hero and decided to focus full time on this newfound selfless and thankless non-profit hobby.

>>149053565

All Might was Quirkless kid because he already had the idea of the Symbol of peace back then if I remember correctly.

Saitamafags getting murdered here. They even brought out non canon shit like extra chapters written by Murata.

Saitama was boring in webcomic and Murata gave him personality in the extra chapters he wrote but that contradicts the webcomic.

>>149051912
Yes, that one.

>>149053877
ONE writes the new content for Murata's version. They are canon.

>>149053877
>extra chapters written by Murata
>written by Murata
Don't even bother to respond to shitposters.
ONE wrote all new stuff.

>Capeshit
Both are shit. Super Heroes in general is a lame concept, with the few exceptions being Batman, Wolverine and Hulk.

Fantasy/Medieval is way better.

>>149053877

>Murata writing

When was this?

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Vigilante Heroes > Boku no Heros

>>149047880
All Might legit gets me hyped.

Saitama is fun to watch too, but you're never really worried about him due to the nature of the show. I'm always rooting for All Might to pull through

>>149054806
>quirkless
Oh bummer. I was hoping he'd have a completely useless quirk.

>>149054034
Yeah, this lame capeshit needs to go. Re:Zero was a breath of fresh air in the capeshit nostalgia circlejerk that is the modern anime industry and I eagerly await season 2.

>>149047880
Trump vs Putin.

>>149050514
>He's a guy who's mentoring a kid and pretty badly at that. And being retired and apparently dying has been done before.

So has "Dude top kek I am SO SO STRONG and I have zero personality"

>>149054034
>>149055116
>Shitting on capes when the anime market is saturated with Isekai knockoffs

It's the superhero stuff that's a breath of fresh air from all the SAO wannabes.

>>149047880
All Might honestly. Much more fun.
Saitama had a much better stance as a hero, though, and taught better values. He just wasn't as fun to watch and hear tho.
Plus I was actually worried about All Might losing ever.

>>149055406
im pretty sure the second statement was sarcastic anon.

>>149054806
>canned until Jump Plus starts
Well fuck.

>>149055017
I like how he's quirkless but he can still fight villains.

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>>149047880
This guy rigth here bro, hesthe bes! Chekc out this sick art i made.

>>149055902
Do you take requests?

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All Might is alright

>>149054034
>Batman
>Wolverine
>Hulk

I mean, they are fine... but if those are your examples of "good superheroes" you have shit taste bub

>>149056082
Maybe, what kind of request are we talkin here man?

>>149051984
dwayne the rock johnson

>>149047880
I know nothing of BNHA but Saitama is not even a character. He's just an overpowered egg with zero personality and doesn't care about anything but food.

seems to me this thread is full of academia fags
everyone knows that obviously saitama is a better character and that all might is just a one dimensional character
nothing special about him,just typical cliche hero being a hero jsutcause and his motivation is EVIL
like i said,horikoshi is a shit writer and all the academiafags praise it to be something its not or ever was

oh and one more thing,enough with the comparisons of opm to academia
academia can't even dream of being as good as opm so please don't bother and jsut keep you shitty manga to yourselves in your own threads

>>149056593
ESL-kun has become a parody of himself. Sad!

>>149054806
Agreed.

>>149056647
see what i mean,academia fags have become so insecure that they compare themselves to opm to try to hide the shittiness of their manga

>>149048245
>Saitama is entertaining to watch when he's on screen
Besides some laughs, not so much
All Might has a better characterization, not to mention a better design

>>149056867
no he does not
saitama has better characterisation than all might
you have to be quite the diehard academiafag who thinks its the best manga ever to say something like that

>>149054806
I like how he is a quirkless All Might with Punisher philosophy

>>149047880
Why is that even a question? Saitama wins by default.

>>149056756
Talk by yourself, OPMfag
Saitama is a pretty bland character, no wonder the secondary characters from OPM are more interesting than him

>>149047880
All Might is a far better Hero than Saitama is, or ever will be. Saitama is only a "hero" because of his own selfish need for both recognition and the hope he might finally find someone strong enough to challenge him. He is completely apathetic otherwise, quite literally caring more about grocery sales than saving the lives of people.

All Might on the other hand is completely selfless in being a hero. He started from nothing with no superpowers, and had to work hard to achieve those powers. But even after achieving them he strives to uphold his own image, not for his own ego but to appear as the pillar of peace that holds up society against villains. He didn't want the public to know of his injury, because he didn't want their faith in heroes to falter. His bravado and posturing is entirely for the sake of the people he's trying to protect. He's essentially the complete opposite of Saitama.

On the other hand, All Might lacks depth as a character, because he lacks any kind of faults, something like Superman-itis. He's just too good and wholesome as a character, and on top of that never has to face defeat - he is essentially unchanging and incapable of character growth, as it is. Kamina wouldn't be anywhere near as well loved if he had the Spiral power and had lived to the end of the series, would he?

Now I know this sounds hypocritical when compared to Saitama, the man who is never faced with challenge, but Saitama's character is drastically different despite being in the same situation power-wise to All Might. He's only fueled by his own selfishness, and often considers this and questions why he is even a hero in the first place. He is essentially at odds between himself and the rest of the world and hero association.

>>149057099
wow,talk about a buttblasted academia fag
look,no matter how much you cry,all might will still be a shit character in a shit manga

>>149057137
we get it,you think academia is the best manga ever
well doesn't matter cause reality says its not
also,we barely know anything about all might other than his mentor was a hero and now his mentor's muh hero rubbed on him and just keeps spouting evil without ever specifying what just that evil is
like evil is bad and good is good

>>149057167
>Doesnt even give reasons and facts to show me im wrong on saying saitama is pretty bland compared to his support cast
>WAH WAH, ACADEMIAFAG
Shows how buttblasted you are kiddo :^)

>>149057207
Did you even get past the second paragraph or does your brains attention span lose focus after so many words?

I said that Saitama is a worse HERO than All Might but a better CHARACTER.

People should remember that Saitama is the protagonist of a hero DECONSTRUCTION. He worked really hard to become strong and save people, but ended up losing all his passion when he noticed he became too strong. Usually apathic and putting priority on the wrong thing, he hopes for the excitement of a challange again BUT he still saves people even when he knows the enemy is no big deal to him. He also tsukkomis to typical shounen tropes. Him having not too much of an interesting past and everything is just a further deconstruction of shounen hero manga. I would say that is pretty fleshed out.

>>149049415
Saitama is a true hero. Want proof? Watch the Mumen Rider vs. Sea King fight and listen to the speech he gives after the fight is over. THAT is a true hero.

Someone who is willing to give up his reputation and dream of being a celebrated hero to save the face of heroes he does not know at all... how is that guy selfish?

>>149057259
wow,the academia fag thinks i gotta give reasons for why saitama is better when he can't give one himself to why anyone should give a damn for all might

look,everyone will pick saitama 9 times out of 10 and will not bother with all might even a little


>>149057296
sorry,its just that this thread been invaded by academia fags shilling their manga that i got sick of it
nevermind anyway what i called you

>>149057392
it's probably one guy pretending to be several people to give All Might a fake popularity boost.

>>149057359
>how is that guy selfish?
Saitama was pretty non-commital to stopping Sonic from tearing up a city street and harming innocents until he realised that by stopping him he could insure he wouldn't get demoted out of C rank.

In fact he was completely fine to be at home reading manga until Genos told him that in order to maintain his C rank he actually had to go out and be a hero, not just show up and kill the latest Dragon/Demon threat.

>>149057463
it took him a bit to realize that sonic is a bad guy. Actually, I am still not sure if he really did or just thought Sonic just went a bit crazy there.

NEXT UPDATE WHEN?

>>149057463
No, he didnt care while sonic was attacking him, as soon as sonic started attacking others saitama stopped him

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>>149057590
No, Sonic blows up quite a few buildings and cars before Saitama realises Sonic = Bad guy = Keep C rank and took him down.

>>149057627
He told him to stop as the attack began, giving him a chance to stop as a human instead of immediately just beating him down. Once he realized that sonic wasnt going to stop, he knocked him out.

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best hero confirmed

>>149057708
>Once he realized that sonic wasnt going to stop, he knocked him out.
No, it was precisely the point he realised Sonic would count as a bad guy.

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>>149057708
And forgot pic

>>149057137
If you think Saitama does anything for recognition, you haven't read or watched OPM fucking at all
That is the complete antithesis of his character

I like OPM but the current arc is too slow. Murata dumping 10 pages a month doesn't help either.
When the fuck will we reach Saitama vs Garou? 2020?

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>>149057792

>>149057708
He told him to stop because he knew Sonic just wanted to challenge him and he had no time to deal with him not yet registering in his mind by attacking the bystanders Sonic became the bad guy he needed for the quota.

>>149053676
You're right. The dude basically wanted to become a nuclear deterrent to save society. What a dude. Bet his a virgin tho

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>>149057789
must have looked like a rebelling kid to saitama at first. He's just too used to everything getting destroyed by big monsters.

>>149057854
The one instance in the entire series, and understandably so considering how much he's done.
He has:
>left the scene of every battle he's been in before he can take any credit
>allowed King to take credit
>turned the civilians against him after defeating Deep Sea King
>shouted at the civilians after destroying the meteor
>defeated the strongest fucking force to ever touch the planet (besides himself and perhaps Blast) and not say anything about it

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>>149057463
It is not like he lazed around just because he was lazy.

>>149047880
Saitama is funny but All Might is better as a hero. Even though his real form was reduced to a weak and skeletal bloodcoughing form, he was still actively saving people in that little remaining time he had for heroics. He'd smile and reassure victims that everything will be okay, he became the symbol of peace and carried that burden on his back for the sake of humankind, while he's a bit lacking as a teacher he is a great fatherfigure and inspiration for Deku, his sense of humor and moe antics are amusing.

Saitama may be stronger (well, he's in a parody series, does that still count?) but to me All Might is the best hero.

>>149057854
that was just a device to get Saitama in the hero association

>>149054034
>Batman, Wolverine and Hulk.
The /co/ in me wants to call this bait, but I'm pretty sure you're just normie trash.

>>149047880
As a hero, All Might.
He has the charisma to be the head of all heroes, tied with his publicly known strength means his very existence deters many petty crimes. Also unlike Caped Baldy, he's not responsible for massive collateral damage (AM; destroyed some buildings, CB; destroys entire suburbs at a time).

CB isn't even really a hero (by definition, not by in-universe law), since that would require public recognition/acceptance, he's just a vigilante.

>>149057854
Come on, he has done his hero work for at least 3 years. At least he wanted some recognition or rumour about his work.

>>149058111
not anymore,he is registered now
so that argument is gone so he is a hero,more so than all might

>>149058111
well, hello there, Superman

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Of course, best girl wins

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>>149058348
You called?

>>149057982
Saitama obssesses about his rank and fame in the Hero Association constantly. Like how pointed out above, when he first joined he was fine doing absolutely no hero work until he realised that he'd get kicked out of C rank if he didn't; or when he despairs at the fact that Genos is getting paid for his Hero work while he is getting nothing.


Saitama doesn't take any credit because he's too lazy to report in the monsters he kills to the Hero Association. Genos even comments on the fact. He's expressed jealousy many times towards Genos as a S rank, such as his fan club or pay. If he bothered to work with the heroes association in the same way Tatsumaki or the other S classes do, then he'd immediately shoot up the rankings and likely be S class already. But he'd rather sit at home and read manga or play videogames than do that.

Saitama has selfless and heroic moments yes; but they are exactly that, moments. Because he doesn't strive to be a hero with the same kind of selfless enthusiasm as All Might or even Licenceless Rider.

>>149058428
just stop,you lost the argument,saitama is better than all might and there is nothing you can do about it

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>>149058408
chemo bitch

>>149058492
Better than All Might at what? Because he's a far worse hero than all might, but a far more interesting character than all might.

Because OP did actually ask who is the better hero AND character.

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All Might is basically Superman in terms of morality and personality. They are not only heroes but embody true justice within their actions. It's the typical superhero, although that's not to say it's bad.
Whereas Saitama only wanted to be a hero out of boredom, he slowly understands the responsibility of his awesome power over time. At first he is only interested in satisfying his hobby of excitement but there has been moments where he thinks about others.
In short, All Might is the better hero, but i personally believe Saitama is a better character because we already have enough of HURR DURR JUSTICE heroes.

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>>149047880
I like both series but All Might to me is just such an awesome character that it seems unfair to put Saitama up against him.

>>149058428
Saitama's feelings and actions are completely normal for a human. All that idealistic selflessness is unrealistic as fuck.

>>149047880
>actual serious character vs a meme joke character
Tough one.

>>149058545
now thats just banter
keep it up,it won't matter
you lsot

>>149047880
All might is a better hero but Saitama is a better character.

>>149058687
its the other way around actually

Boku Hero Academia is not a very good series and takes itself seriously. OPM is on multiple layers of irony and has a very repetitive plot on purpose. With those in mind its much harder to like Allmight unless you've read the manga to current. Hes obviously the best hero but thats given since hes written as the ideal hero.

>>149058705
>All that idealistic selflessness is unrealistic as fuck.
It's just as realistic as the superpowered NEET anon; you just might identify with one more strongly than the other.

>>149058780
>>149058809
Can't you kill yourself already, vampire killer? As if it's not bad enough that you shit up every WSJ thread, you now also spam the OPM threads.

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>>149058814

>>149058763
I feel like one is trying to move OPM away from being a meme character now. Since the introduction of Garou, the series has been more personalized. Eventually, calling Saitama a meme wont be reputable but we'll see how it progresses.
Also, how is All Might serious? He wears a smile to ensure everything is always gonna be okay which is a cheap trick to hide the truth. I dont think thats too heroic but thats just my personal opinion

>>149058888
He's a serious character as in he is actually supposed to be a person rather than a meme.

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As usual OPMfags try to find depth in a series that has none while Academiafags don't try to pretend the series is something its not.

>>149058933
But Saitama IS a person. Just because he's not as serious, determined and lazy doesn't demean the fact he is a character with emotions, just not as much as others. For instance I can call bakugou a meme because he's an edgy teen who cusses alot who feels like a sasuke clone.

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>>149058809
Eh everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just love how he feels less like a typical mentor character and more like an old shonen protagonist that has already gone through his story. I liked that it was explained that he has trouble teaching because things came naturally too him like most shonen heroes. I like that he's still trying to better himself as a teacher. I just love how his character has fleshed itself out and become a tragic, goofy, terrifying, awesome guy all at the same time.

I would say that All Might represents everything good about BnHA. His earnest enthusiasm for being a hero, the way he can be cliched but at the same time break conventional cliches, the ability to completely change the tone of the scene, and just flat out being so god damn cool a character that he just makes you wanna get ripped.

>>149059028
>For instance I can call bakugou a meme because he's an edgy teen who cusses alot who feels like a sasuke clone.
And I can say you need to read the manga and stop spouting memes

>>149048245
This.

>>149059028
Saitama is a caricature. His entire existence is to perpetrate the "one punch" joke. He has no depth, no development, no fears or hopes (besides "I wish there were strong beings to fight", which is just an extension of the one punch joke). He's basically a button that you press for 'epic lulz'.

>>149059009
One Cuck Fag here. I'll admit that at first OPM had no depth within the series because it wasnt supposed to. I mean, how are you supposed to involve emotions into a series where everything gets fucked by the flick of a finger? However, I think ONE is trying to build the series away from all the meme shit and trying to establish more character depth. Have you read the Garou arc?

>>149059096
>He has no depth, no development, no fears or hopes
Did you only watch the first episode of the anime or something?

>>149059119
>OH NOOOOO IM GONNA MISS THE SALE! *WAN PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANCH*
Really made me think.

>>149059098
>how are you supposed to involve emotions into a series where everything gets fucked by the flick of a finger
I weep at your two-bit brain.

>>149059060
Im not spouting memes. I was saying that sarcastically to drive my argument across and make a point. There's literally nothing for you to be mad about.
And I have read BNHA. Baku and Deku remind me of naruto and sasuke because of their jealousy and admiration of each other. It's not a meme its called inspiration

>>149054806
What chapter is that from ?
Read the whole thing and I don't remember this

>>149059146
You pretty much confirmed my statement, thanks.

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>>149059169
>Baku and Deku remind me of naruto and sasuke

>>149059098
>Have you read the Garou arc?
And even that doesn't have much depth because it spells t out to you. Garou definitely has the most character depth in the series thus far but even then his character can be summed up as a whiny manchild that's hard to take seriously. Yes the hero system is corrupt, yes heroes can be everywhere at every given time that doesn't give you the right to become a monsters and start hurting everyone to prove a point. He just comes off as unlikable through the whole thing and I think ONE realized that hence all the rewrites going about in the Murata version to make the setup and build feel more natural.

>>149047880

All-Might is the better hero.
Possibly the better character too.

Though Saitama is leagues more entertaining.

>>149059191
>no arguments left
Literally the only thing I can think of that you could be referring to as "depth" is when he gives up credit for killing the sea king, but if that's the best you have then you're confirming my statements. And don't reply if you don't have anything of worth to say.

>>149059165
>No brain capacity or patience to read third sentence
>no arguments made just mindless insults
>Making all academiafags look like shit

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Man this thread is a fucking dumpster fire.

>>149059243
no,there is just no reason to argue with a delusional academia fag
academia might have the shittiest thing happen but you will still praise it like a flock of sheep

>>149059146
>quoting episode 3 when anon said episode 1

???

>>149059278
ESL, you still here.

>>149059278
Where did I praise bnha? I told you not to reply if you didn't have anything of worth to say, dumb kid.

>>149059278
Funny way to spell OPM m8

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>>149058687
I like both series as well. For obvious reasons.

>>149059295
>anon said I only watched episode 1
>quoted episode 3
>this is to my detriment

???

>>149059202
Dude. Everything you just said about garou could also be applied to Stain. Shitty motives don't necessarily equal shitty depth. But thanks for having a civilized argument, getting tired of reading all these shitposters.

>>149056983
OPMfags are so deluded

Is Murata dying? He barely released anything in this year.

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>>149059308

>>149059354
he's already dead, anon

>OPM is bad
>UHHH YEAH WELL HERO ACADEMIA IS JUST AS BAD OR EVEN WORSE SO THERE HAH
Is there a term for being unable to defend your shit without attacking something else? It's awfully reminiscent of /v/ console wars. It's almost like that's to be expected because OPM is /v/-core anime...

Wait, what is Saitama's quirk again?

So who do you think started this thread?

>>149059307
nope,we don't just blindly say everything in opm was great
you do say everything in academia is great
big difference

>>149059302
oh forgot that they get butthurt to the max like their life is falling apart if you point out that academia is a boring manga

>>149059243
>"I only watched the anime" the post

The standouts are Saitama protecting buttfaces kid, taking the flak for the meteors damage, and protecting the perception of the heros association with the sea king. Other than that there's a whole lot of Saitama questioning and trying to find answers as to what he's even supposed to do being so powerful and why he even bothers being a hero, with Boros and King.

>>149059400
Some /v/ faggot.

>>149059346
yea sure,quite ironic coming from fags that have to go post their shit on /co/ to relieve themselves of their insecurity

>>149048245
Fucking pleb All Might is a fantastic character.

>>149059337
>Everything you just said about garou could also be applied to Stain
Where did I say that Stain is justified? He's insane but people tend to be drawn more to a vigilante from a 90's comic over a manchild with a motivation as well-written as a JRPG villain.

>>149059400
ESLfag here >>149059414
The same fag who made the Black Clover general threads, shits up every WSJ thread, shits on World Trigger and so on.

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This thread would've been fine if people actually read the damn OP instead of instantly assuming it's OPM vs BNHA or Saitama vs All Might and then coming to fanboy for one side and one side only.

>>149059439
keep being delusional academia fag
everyone got bored of the academia anime
no one liked it
they gonna be in for a surprise once they get to the snooze fest that is the sports festival

>>149050514
Fuck off secondary, don't participate in discussions that you have limited knowledge on.

>>149059454

cats can't shitpost

>>149059175
Chapter 2

>>149059451
wrong again,
im an opm fag and i didnt make this thread
this post of yours just shows how insecure you are after i pointed out that your favourite manga is shit

>>149059417
>joke meme character does something sentimental once in a while to keep things fresh
>this makes him a real character and not a joke meme
Yeah, no. There's a reason why all the side characters get a shit ton of screen time. They are the ones intended to be human, since they all have their own struggles and emotions. Saitama is basically a lazy god who solves everything with the primary joke of the series. Saitama obliterating someone to prove a shallow point isn't something anyone can take seriously, unless you're literally underaged.

>>149059414
>you do say everything in academia is great
Were?
Also not the same anon you've been cock fencing with for the last hour
Saying you like this one character because reasons is not the same than saying OMG I LUV THIS SERIES BEST EVAH XDDD
You sound disoriented
/b/ is that way, boy

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>>149059454
>who is the better hero
>not OPM vs BNHA to some degree

>>149059501
But ESLfag, i like both OPM and BNHA. I'm just waiting for Murata to release something again after the Watchdogman vs Garou cliffhanger.

>>149059437
what are you even talking about?
do you mean that both manga are a Japanese take on western superheroes?
Tiger and Bunny did it too you know

>>149059516
>Saitama obliterating someone to prove a shallow point isn't something anyone can take seriously
Good thing Saitama has plenty of his own monologuing and discussions.

And note, this thread is, and always has been, in comparison to All Might. Of course Saitama is't a massively deep and complex character, he's a gag. But he still manages more complexity than All Mights superman cardboard cutout.

>>149059467
>no one liked it
That's why faggots have threads almost everyday right?

>>149059444
>Where did I say Stain was justified
You didn't and neither did I implicate any justification for either character. All I said was your previous argument could also be used for a similar character so now you're either confused or putting words in my mouth.
And since we're gonna start shitting on each other's characters I might add I'd be more drawn to someone that single-handedly rebel against an entire organization rather than a tmnt cosplayer with an AIDs fetish

>>149059526
Who is the better hero/CHARACTER was the title of the OP

I'm getting more and more convinced that the people in this thread are dyslexic. X can be a better hero while still being a worse character than Y.

>stop liking what I don't like the thread

>>149059576
>Of course Saitama is't a massively deep and complex character, he's a gag
What are you even trying to argue if you agree with what I said? My very first post in here was that Saitama is a meme joke character and you got all butthurt just to end up acknowledging that he's a gag while acting like you're rebuking me with that statement. Absolutely retarded.

>>149059535
yeah sure you do,nice defence academia fag
but that won't be enough now

>>149059525
blah blah blah,quit backtracking anon,its not good for you

>>149059578
yeah the people who are tiny in number make many threads and fill them up,shows ow delusional and blind fans they are

>>149059576
see,this is what i mean,yet the academiafags make it seem like all might is someone really good

Maybe they are both good heroes and both horrible characters

>>149059641
Because he's still a better CHARACTER than All Might, AKA THE POINT OF THE DAMN THREAD YOU BLIND FUCK.

God fucking damn do you just turn up into threads without reading the OP normally or is this a one off autism jaunt?

>>149059648
blah blah blah,quit backtracking anon,its not good for you

>>149059668
The saitamafag won't be happy with that, anon

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>>149059670
>saitama is a meme joke character
>lol you only watched episode 1 of the anime or something? let me disprove your statement.
>...
>...
>...
>yeah I know saitama is a gag he's still better than all might

>>149059672
hm,looks like i struck a nerve

>>149059713

then maybe Allmight is good hero but a bad character, and Saitama is a good character but bad hero.

>>149059774
hm,looks like i struck a nerve
U MAD?

>>149059774
hm,looks like i struck a nerve

>>149059786
It's the other way around. All Might has more depth than Saitama but Saitama is literally invincible.

>>149059592
Stain and Garou are nothing alike because even characters in the manga call out Garou for being a manchild on his crusade tantrum than the "rebel" nobody asked for and surely nobody would want to follow while Stain's whole tyrant managed to catch the attention of millions of people who feel the same way and twist it to their own mantra.

>>149059648
Your criticism on the manga is baseless because you've never read it. You're just spouting i-it's bad! without even knowing what you're talking about.

>>149059790
>>149059792
and this is how you trigger academiafags

>>149059854
and this is how you trigger ESLfag

>>149059839
This, the characterization of All might is actually really well done.

>>149059847
i read it to the part where all for one gets sent to prison had no reason to continue
cause by then it went to utter shit

>>149059839

so All Might is a good character but bad hero, and Saitama is a bad character but good hero?

>>149059763
Amazingly enough anon, I was actually in this argument under the pretense you were drawing comparisons to All Might. I know that seems weird and all, I mean it's only the entire point of the thread in the first place right?

Who let the /b/tard out?

>>149059889
You just have shit taste anon it's ok.

>>149059889

I read on for the frog girl. Cause that's my fetish.

>>149059903
No no, All might is a good Saitama but not as good an All might as Saitama is.

>>149059882
aww don't be like that
im sure you will get a better manga to follow in the future

>>149059839
>Saitama is literally invincible
>this makes him a better hero

this better be bait

because this is literally child logic.

>>149059944

Ok.

>>149059921
see,academia fags live right now being in denial
no arguments left and thats what they say to you

>>149059947
k

>>149059963
excellent reply mate

>>149059957
now you are making things up and deliberately not paying attention to what others wrote
are you really that butthurt?

>>149059592
>All I said was your previous argument could also be used for a similar character so now you're either confused or putting words in my mouth.
Your argument fails because neither character are even alike and you'd have to strip down both characters to their most basic structures to find similarities.

>And since we're gonna start shitting on each other's characters I might add I'd be more drawn to someone that single-handedly rebel against an entire organization rather than a tmnt cosplayer with an AIDs fetish
Yeah good luck with that because the arc makes Garou out to being nothing more than a manchild in the end taking out his own butthurt on the hero organization rather than a rebel.

All Might's pretty shallow. As a hero he's fine, I guess? A stereotypical messianic Superman archetype.

Saitama is a joke but the way they treat the joke is actually sort of interesting?

To really go into their differences you need to examine the differences of the worlds of the two stories. Academia is an idealized world where a character like All Might serves as a beacon of hope to others. OPM is a more realistic world where a hero like Saitama would destabilize the entire world just by existing. If All Might existed in the world of OPM the power vacuum he would create would throw the entire world into chaos, because the appearance of a messianic figure with godlike abilities wouldn't inspire hope in people, it would probably scare the living shit out of everyone, and at the very least throw the entire system of heroes into chaos. In Academia All Might is seen as what a hero should be and everyone understands that. In OPM the image of a hero is a lot more delicate and needs to be carefully maintained. See the aftermath of the Sea King fight for more on this.

Both are good heroes, they do what's right. As part of the joke Saitama isn't as perfect and flawless as his powers would allow him to be, but at the same time this allows the story to not shy away from more sensitive stuff like the damage that would ensue if one destroyed a huge meteor that was about to hit the Earth. Could you imagine All Might a city to be decimated by the chunks of the meteor he just destroyed? Of course not, and even if it did happen they certainly wouldn't blame him for it.

Two different worlds, two different heroes and characters to fit those worlds. It's not so simple as comparing them.

>>149059973
Because you don't listen to reason. Why would I take the time to explain why it's a good manga if you can't see another opinion besides your own? Sure it's not the best manga out there but it's good at what it does.

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>>149059947
As your husbando would say

>>149059842
Point taken, been awhile since ive read either so i dont recall specifications but now that you mention it, I do recall people shitting on Garou. Even still, he's the best thing going for OPM currently until Bang is revealed

>>149060024
All Might is a lot more human than you described him to be. Yes at first glance he seems like the infallible beacon of hope for humanity but if you dive deeper you find out he is full of flaws.

>>149060026
right,now here comes the bullshit they usually spew after everything has been used up but failed

>>149060070
Bang has been revealed. He is a better Saitama than Saitama, saved psychololi, he has hair and a better looking costume.

>>149060027
right,ok

>>149060080
nope he is shallow,alot like early superman
good for the sake of being good

>>149060127
Read the manga retard.

>>149060153
i did for a long time until i just got fed up with the cliche bullshit
stop making it out to be something its not

>>149060070
There's still the few "Garou was right" posters who take his endless rant on heroism and the organization as a sign that he was right because like any establishment there's always going to be a few assholes despite their ultimate mission is to do the right thing but since ONE is writing this he spares no expense in pointing out the flaw in Garou's actions and why he isn't the rebel demon lord but a man still holding on to the frustrations of his own childhood and lashing out those frustrations on others. So if you thought he was right about anything then you missed the point but he was a metric ton more interesting as a character than anyone else in the series.

>>149060080
He has flaws but none of them make him interesting. He's a character defined by his incredibly good morals, with or without his powers.

He's the symbol of hope because he knows that with the power he has/had, it's his responsibility to not only do good but to leave good in his wake. Even within the hyper-idealized world of BNHA he created a power vacuum that filled with people like Shiragaki Tomura, but they don't really play up his flaws enough to make this a large aspect of his character, at least not yet.

Besides, if we're comparing them as heroes rather than characters, those flaws don't really apply since they have nothing to do with his role as a hero. He's just a little shallow as a hero. I'd say Saitama is equally shallow if not more so, but this shallowness is worked into his character as part of the overarching joke, where as All Might's shallowness is merely a side effect of how he's written.

>>149060004
Yet stain teams up with a manchild in his own respective universe who bitches about not being noticed amongst society and likes to kill kids.
Sick bro. Also why are you treating Stain is if he's fucking batman? Insane =/= developed. Both seek to destroy the corruption and misled belief of heroes through their own means of chaos. No matter how you slice it they're the same but different.

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>>149060262
Speaking of putting words in people's mouths.
>Yet stain teams up with a manchild
Stain was straight up going to kill Shiggy when they first introduced and was going to go back to finish the job once he was done. He was never on his side or believed in his bullshit.
>Also why are you treating Stain is if he's fucking batman?
Again where did I even make the comparison? I'm just telling you what both respective series says about their characters; Stain is an insane vigilante with his own convictions that goes beyond hero and villain since he believes people have lost what it means to be a hero. Garou is a manchild who wanted to take out his own grudge on society by becoming a demon not because he cared about the concept of hero but because he thought it was unfair he was given this fate due to the flawed structure of the organization taking upon himself. About the only thing they have in common is that they seek retribution through unjust means but the way the story have portrayed both couldn't be worlds apart especially with how the characters respond to them.

>>149060472
whose shiggy?

>>149059957
Saitama has performed heroics that nobody else is capable of because of his meme powerlevel. He is definitely a good hero.

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>>149060246
Well you're wrong there because he's a lousy teacher for one thing and in a manga that's essentially about the relation between the mentor and student that's a fatal flaw. Also despite his title of the symbol of peace his greatest failure was letting the grandson of his mentor fall to villainy meaning despite all his prowess he was ultimately bested by a man who used his words to sway someone. And that's the crux of his character being a man who was on top of the world having to adjust to losing his status and being normal civilian who has to be protected rather than vice versa largely due to his own lack of urgency. If this show was a lot more cynical like OPM this would be a lot more obviously pointed out but since MHA is a celebration of heroism its not as drawn out and doesn't define his largely optimistic character.

>>149048245
>All the English and Ameriboo shit
>Not entertaining

>>149047880
All might is a better Hero, Saitama is stronger

>>149061039
saitama is also a better character

ALL MIGHT stomps this in all category.
All Might might be even stronger than Saitama since he can go beyond 100% PLUS ULTRA

>>149048307
it never gets old

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>All Might
A character well developed with strength, weaknesses, character,insecurities etc

>Saitama
Literally a living meme.

Moe Might the best

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>>149062763
>>149047880
>>149048245
I liked One Punch Man, but All Might is just a better character. Saitama is repetitive and shallow compared to All Might. Not to mention All Might is genuinely likable instead of just being an unfunny repeated predictable joke.


Saitama has the advantage of being in a manga and anime with better looking visuals. But as a character, All Might is more fun and likable. His big smile that he puts on despite how hard he's actually struggling, his nonsensical American references, him being a source of inspiration for everyone. Also has better design. Saitama is likable in his own way, but he's still just a repetitive predictable stale joke in comparison to All Might who is genuinely a great character.

All Might is the better character.

>>149061220
Love how you couldn't respond with facts to
>>149060895

All Might is a better character and that can actually be supported by facts, not just fanboying and saying _____ is better. Because anyone can do that.

>>149047880

Left is better everything honestly. Right is more of a force of nature and plot device than an actual character.

No one really likes Saitama besides that 1 OPMfag.

Boku no Hero Academia has better soundtrack and opening than OPM.
DAYS always gets me hyped.

OPM >>>>> BnHA >>>>>>>> Dragonball

>>149063972

Dragon Ball > BHnA > shit > OPM

>>149047880
As a Hero, Saitama, because though All Might is a better paragon to champion a cause, Saitama is stronger and that's more important, because at the end of the day, might makes right, and heroic speeches are trumped by punching the shit out of the villains.
As a character it's purely preference because the'yre entirely different things.

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I love both series, but I like All Might better as a Character. Saitama is generally pretty shallow, but his character works amazingly well in his series because of the way everything is done. If he was like All Might, most of the jokes wouldn't make as much sense or wouldn't even be funny.

tl;dr: you can't really compare the series just because they're both hero series, when one is more comedy and the other is more shounen action with serious undertones

but All Might is a better character over all.

>>149064129

So Trump is right?

>>149064171
That's obvious, anon. But that has nothing to do with this discussion.

>>149064171
He's right but that doesn't mean he will win

>>149064160
>Stain
Oh man, I can't wait for season 2. We're gonna get so much delicious stain OC.
There is a surprising lack of Stain

>>149064171
Yes.

>>149062996
Nope, All Might is shit

Saitama is the better character and hero

Just imagine how much mental fortitude you must have to antagonize yourself against the people you saved from the Deep Sea King, just to save the reputation of the heroes

And mind you, Saitama is a person who wants fame from being a hero, to do that, is just more than what All Might can muster up a smile just to show everything is gonna be better

Saitama is a better hero, better teacher, and a better character than BHnA characters

>>149064432
Literally any character from OPM would be better teacher to genos than saitama is. Dude teaches literally nothing.

>>149065791
Genos doesn't even need teaching anyway, just upgrades.

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>>149064432

>>149065791
Saitama already pointed out that he can get stronger by getting stronger parts, so its pointless to teach him

He pointed out that he better change his way of thinking and he is right

And Genos observed Saitama, and you can see that Genos fights more prudently than ever before, getting more pragmatic than self destructive when he was first introduced

And Saitama might not teach people like Genos directly, since it is not his thing, but he teaches and inspires in a very roundabout way, but it get results

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>>149066232
Butthurt BHnA fag that can't accept that All Might is overused generic boring and worse hero

>>149064171
Only if he wins and gets the might.

I had no idea /a/ had such a boner for pseudo-deep shounenshit.

OPMfags still getting murdered in here. Somebody call 911.

>>149048201
Goku is a glass cannon

>>149070039

ur anus is a glass cannon

>>149069555

I kinda doubt that.

All Might wouldn't be enough to carry the title by himself while One Joke Guy pretty much sells on his running meme alone.

>>149070940

Umm remove all side characters in OPM and it would be boring as shit. Watching paint dry would be more entertaining than watching a bald guy 1 punch anyone without any development from side characters.

What if Saitama got All for One and he didn't know about it.

>>149067380
>OPM
>Shounen

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>>149047880
Hero? Shitdesigned faggot with retarded hairstyle and personality vs parody bald (Ha-ha) char pretended to be original but stupid af. Both mangas are garbage.

So, what's your dream BnHA episode? Here's mine:

All Might gets a booty call from Mount Lady to meet her at the Sports Festival Arena. He gets there, turns out it was Shigaraki and Sensei using a voice modifier. All of the League of Villains is there too. They've stolen all of his film collection and they tell him he has to follow all their instructions and whatever happens to him he has to act like he enjoys it. If he doesn't, they will break all of his films and attack the students at UA.

So the next day, AM walks into a room wearing diapers and a pacifier, acting like a retarded baby. All of the League of Villains is there and they give him the hardest, most brutal gangrape in history. As instructed, AM acts like he completely enjoys it and asks for more.

Then in walks that liquid guy from episode 1. Turns out he joined the League of Villains for revenge. He's been eating a special protein-only diet for weeks just for this. He pulls down his pants and partially defecates the longest, thickest, hardest log ever, and proceeds to use it to give AM the most furious ass-to-ass action ever recorded. AM can't hold his tears anymore, but pretends they're from pleasure. It's finally over.

Then Shigaraki reveals the room they're in is actually see through from the outside, and they're in the school arena. All of the students have been watching All Might get gangbanged and enjoy it, and it's been broadcasted worldwide. They finally kick him out of the premises, and break all of his films anyway.

Later, AM runs into Mount Lady, who tells him she didn't know he was such a fag. Eraserhead walks in and proceeds to have passionate sex with her in front of AM, and after he finishes, pees all over him, much to her delight.

After the ending credits, All Might (depowered form) is wandering off on a road in the middle of nowhere. A speeding car runs him over and breaks his spine, but it's non lethal. He is left laying there in extreme pain for days, and finally dies of hunger.

>>149064432
the entire point of that scene is that he is an awful hero, that's why it's hard for people to cheer for him and accept him as their saviour.
The guy who stood up against all odds and inspired people got completely stomped, then this chucklefuck stops by and 1 shots the bad guy without much fanfare.
A hero isn't just someone who saves people, but also someone who gives them courage and inspires them. Makes them feel good.
He's a good person and character, but not a good hero.

>>149047880

Both are different characters in truth, but both can inspire a newer generation of heroes.

I'd say the man greater on being an inspiration is Saitama as a dude who is surrounded by geniuses, magical powers, and augmented humans he is just an asshole who got so strong by doing something anyone else can do, true to break your limiter you'd need his personality and outlook but not having that knowledge he'll inspire you to try and become more no matter what you are. Though as a better hero overall? I'd say All-might takes it as he's much more serious of it and encourages others on a grand scale, dude has the look, has the style, and has the personality of a guy kids can look up to.

As characters they're very different, Saitama reminds me alot of Duke Togo though with much more personality. On his own though Saitama isn't really interesting when you get far enough into the series, though through writing the stories are formed AROUND Saitama allowing it all to compensate. Really whoever is superior as a character depends on what you like as they're so vastly different, but in the end i'm more of a traditional cape-shit fag so i'll lean on All-Might, not to say i love me Saitama too.

This whole discussion wouldn't even happen if both sides read the other one. I mean read everything. From the main series to the extras. For OPM most of the extra contain the much needed characterization. This is because ONE realize that Saitama needed some as the series become more popular. While for BnHA, the manga itself already contains the characterization need. So, you could just read it without worry.
But really from a hero perspective, All Might is the better hero. What I mean here is the generic hero people sought to expect from. He is literally the symbol of justice in his world. He is an icon. While Saitama is just a background character. He is the one that keep the world safe behind their back. As Genos already said, If there's a threat that Saitama cannot handle, the world would have ended already. That's Saitama, a hero doing his job in keeping the world safe.

>>149074382

From a character perspective. All might is just the guy with no power and wanted to help. Get powers and wham, he helps everybody. He became the best. Got work, got support. He basically gets everything that you would expect the best hero would get. You could say that this alone makes for an interesting character. But it is overplayed. No matter how much disection into his character we make, we all know what to expect. We know what to find. But Saitama is different. He became a hero because one day he decided to be one. He basically is the normal everyday people that one day wants to be a hero. One thing that stands out about him is that he has quite a spirit. He seems to want to be the best hero. The generic one. He wants to be a hero like All might. He trains for it. Until one day, he suddenly gets his enormous powers. He's still the same person but now he has too much power. All his dreams of having an action pack hero with ups and downs goes down the drain. He became immune to the world of heroes. But because he is a normal person, that is why his characterization sometimes seems out of place. He wants recognition of his work like a normal person. But he also has sympathy for his fellow heroes and everybody else. Like the cops from the extra. He wants to do good and expect people to praise him for it. He still wants hero life. But he wouldn't sacrifice people for it. He can discern what is more important. That is his character. A normal guy with a dream of being a generic hero but then became too powerful for it.

>>149063948
OPM's op shits all over Academia's. Fix your shit taste immediately.

>>149051984
fucking jabronis everywhere

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>>149060472
>manchild
Stop using words whose meaning eludes you because you’re fucking retarded. The word you're looking for is "rebel".

The manchild is Boros, Saitama actually calls him out on it. You can’t just devour planets for literal shits and giggles, because of fucking boredom. That’s the epitome of childish selfishness.

Garou and Stain both are idealists who use fear mongering to change society as they like. The thing is, compared to Ninja Turtle, Garou’s means are way less questionable (the fact that he adamantly refuses to murder is even used to portray him in a better light than both heroes and your average monsters), his progress as a character is way more noticeable and his impact is of a much more vast scope. He actually became what he set out to become in record time and was only stopped by literally unbeatable force that is Saitama. Stain is stuck in prison because of a couple of kids, but hey, he has a cult following of a bunch of retards who can’t achieve anything on their own, so it’s fine. Stop trying to pretend he’s more relevant than AFO, lel.

>>149059202
>He just comes off as unlikable
>ONE realized that
You come off as an autist. There's more than enough scenes in the webcomic that have Garou: save kids, show mercy t heroes, kill actual evildoers, struggle to move forward like some fucking protagonist. ONE stuffed the webcomic with moments that scream "YOU SHOULD ROOT FOR THIS GUY".

>>149060998
>xD HE SAID ENGURISH

This shit is not funny unless you're a child

>>149047880
Saitama is a walking joke, not a character

>>149048245
Holy fuck this shit taste.

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So I'm guessing no one's read this chapter

>>149048245
Kill yourself.