What went wrong?And what the fuck is going on anymore?
Rue island was too rushed and if Eto and Amon are dead that's the worst of it.
Ishida started killing off all the good characters for shock-value. Plus this arc was just a mess that was all over the place.
>>148955470
>Killing Amon
>Keeping the fodder
I'll never forgive him for this.
>>148955262
>And what the fuck is going on anymore?
Are you one of retards that needs a fucking summary of what happened? You can find it on reddit.
It blows my mind how retarded most of the people that read TG are, I swear lots of them don't understand what happens in the chapters.
Not enough Cochlea and OEKen. I wanted to see what Ken was capable of and what he would do after becoming the OEK.
>>148955320
>Rue island
>rushed
Kill yourself.
>>148955815
>Amon
>Dead
The scene with Saiko was a parallel to the Amon vs Kaneki scene in the original TG, if Saiko really listened to Amon words she let him live.
>>148955262
This:
>>148956380
The plot in TG has been very well organized, with pretty much all the important developments foreshadowed a long fucking time ago.
What happened this arc that could have possibly left you confused?
>>148955262
The problem is that no-one dies permanently.
Like the Tsukiyama arc. There's nothing wrong with the set-up and execution of the arc: Basically, Tsukiyama is supposed to grow up, take charge, and actually become a man after his dad dies.
But his father just punches his way out of confinement offscreen. What was the point of all that, if dad wasn't walking to his death?
As a side note, Amon's return is also pretty disappointing. Kaneki developing multiple crazier personalities is also pretty dumb. The series, unfortunately, never explores the fun moments that come from all the identity weirdness.
Like, Akira never visits Eto and goes like "You dumb bitch, my father spent his entire life trying to kill you. I hope you burn in hell." Touka and Kaneki's friends are like "No, no, he's happy how he is, just leave him there."
The weirdest part is that we're supposed to see Ghouls are these tragic, beautiful characters when they're still flesh-eating psychopaths. Exactly what is anyone fighting for, at this point? To change the status quo? What's the alternative? Ghouls having equal rights, breeding en masse, and turning THE ENTIRE WORLD into their buffet?
Seriously, what's the endgame? And what's with the new type of half-Ghouls (The Arima type, with shortened lifespans, superhuman abilities and no kagune) that were abruptly introduced? I thought the whole point was that if the two races breed, you get Eto!
>>148956537
>What happened this arc that could have possibly left you confused?
>>148956380
Stop sucking Ishida's dick.
Lots of retarded, boring "twists," several fights were too long (Kaneki vs Arima is the biggest offender), making every character show up despite them not having an actual reason to be in specific places, and trying to cover too many events at once.
Ghoul has always been heavy on fights and power levels, but this last arc had far too many fights without any real substantial plot. Minor characters also got spotlight for basically no reason, or to have them get killed off. It's a big mess, maybe the next arc will be better and more concise.
Hopefully the stupid plot twists are done (although I'm sure there's a lot more retardation surrounding V) and we can get back to the human drama, which we got a small taste of with Amon.
>>148956726
The funniest part is that Arima clearly didn't give a shit. Like, you can almost feel his frustration when Kaneki pulls out another less-than-impressive upgrade and gets his ass kicked again. And again. And again.
Even after Kaneki became super ultimate chuuni Kaneki, he still didn't have the balls to kill Arima. Like, Arima eventually rolled his eyes and killed HIMSELF. It's like that battle in MGS3 with the End, if you take too long and the End dies out of sheer disgust.
>>148955262
>What went wrong?
>Qshits exist.
>Trap 'I don't like men because daddy raped me' drama.
>Killing Shirazu, the only decent character.
>Haise 'Autisma is the best daddy' Sasaki.
>Emo Kaneki
>Touka
>Kirishima plot armor.
>This arc.
>>148956795
No, no. The sexually confused reverse trap was amazing, especially because - like a real transvestite - she turned out to be crazier than everyone else put together. Like, she literally murdered her family with an axe and tortured animals for fun.
That's hilarious! I'm pretty sure Ishida was saying something there.
>>148956861
>The sexually confused reverse trap was amazing
No, her drama doesn't have place here. I am tired of her and Urie sucking her pussy.
>>148956400
>>Rue island
>>rushed
>Kill yourself.
You didn't read the latest chapter I guess where all the fighting was ended in one go.
>>148956987
>You didn't read the latest chapter I guess where all the fighting was ended in one go.
Yes and I was one of those celebrating.
>>148956552
Well surmised, Post this in every thread.
Also add other character arcs left out and all the conveniently skipped/glossed over parts
>>148956552
>Seriously, what's the endgame? And what's with the new type of half-Ghouls (The Arima type, with shortened lifespans, superhuman abilities and no kagune) that were abruptly introduced? I thought the whole point was that if the two races breed, you get Eto!
Do we need to go into how Ishida has told us before that Arima's white hair was due to genetics? The foreshadowing of the blindness in his eye with all the TG art, conclusively revealed by Sachi?
We know in real life interbreeding doesn't always produce a Liger, but that you can get Tigons too. Why would Arima's existence as a 'failed' half ghoul variation seem so impossible to you?
As for whether the ghouls should be allowed to exist or not, we're talking about a planet where scientists can revive the dead. Pretty sure they could produce artificial human meat for ghouls to eat.
>autismo dead
>hide confirmed dead
>eto dead
>houji dead
>tatara dead
>amon dead
>washuu dead
What's the next step in Ishida's master plan?
>>148955262
But anon, nothing went wrong. This series ended nicely on chapter 143
>>148957126
The only thing the ghouls need to do is killing themselves and stop breeding.
>>148957323
Why are you even reading this series?
>>148957323
But they were made for breeding, anon.
Should i watch this? yes/no and why.
>>148957091
so you admit it was rushed
>>148958194
Read it.
>>148958280
And the anime? Is it good?
>>148958299
There is no anime.
>>148958333
I understand now, ... thank you anon...
>>148956783
>Arima eventually rolled his eyes and killed HIMSELF.
Being Arima is suffering.
>>148955262
I think the scope of the manga got too broad. What I really liked about the original series was how it was all about Kaneki and to a lesser extent Amon, any other characters getting screen time never took away from the development of the story. With :Re, the cast is too bloated and the pacing is all fucked. Another thing is that for the whole first half of :Re, we didn't get inside Kaneki's head at all, and even now we hardly do.
>>148958401
read the manga then just watch the first season
>>148955262
>Furuta of all people as last boss
Meh.
>>148955262
>mutsuki is a fem Kaneki rehash
>Akira saves Taki
>almost every major plot point of the entire story has been thrown together in the last 20 chapters
Honestly it went wrong when Kaneki joined the CCG. That was retarded and there was no going back. He either should have died or escaped.
>>148958537
I feel you there, cast bloat is a big issue, but at the same time it feels like Ishida's not doing interesting enough stuff with a lot of the characters.
>>148959128
He needs a break.
>>148959128
My point exactly, we're being deprived of Kaneki while Ishida dicks around with the Q's and etc.
>>148955262
He looks so fat.
>>148959198
Right, but if Ishida dicked around with the Qs enough to make us care about the new ones, it would be fine.
I definitely felt Shark, for example. I am feeling Urie and Trap too, but they're going too fast right now that I can't tell what they're doing, and they're mucking up Amon's reveal so much that I can't tell he's almost the main character anymore.
>>148957127
Kaneki read
Touka dead
Best unpredictable ending that will cause the best shitstorm evar.
>>148958583
>yfw Furuta won't even fight Kaneki.
>yfw Kaneki killed himself.
Why do people like Touka again?
>>148958583
He started the manga though. The ending should be about him.
>>148959366
I don't care if Kaneki dies as long as someone verbally destroys him.
Even for this arc alone
>Everyone in cochlea dead
>Large number of hungry ghouls let loose.
>Working with their worst enemies.
I think it would be hilarious if it was Saiko after this arc.
Urie has been the only character to think about things more than two inches from his nose though.
>>148957127
>hide confirmed dead
>eto dead
>amon dead
sweet summerchild...
>>148955262
But I like it.
>>148960116
>being in denial
As expected of Hidecucks
>>148960463
>Shounen battle manga
>Believing anyone is dead without having seen the body
Top kek. I bet you thought Kirigiri had died too.
>>148960463
>Being retarded enough to assume a fictional character is dead without a body.
Why do idiots like you even bother posting, let alone read this manga?
I'm not even heavily invested in this series, but I lurk these threads and it was pretty funny to see the Furuta poster get shit on the whole time and then this chapter comes out. Can't make this shit up.
>>148965141
Always one step ahead.
>>148961861
>>148963750
>being in denial about Hide literally confirming his dead
>replying twice just to bump from page 10 each time
Lmao
>>148955262
Plot got too convoluted in RE, Ishida tried too hard to make an intricate plot, things were better when it was more simple. Too many conspiracy's and reveals for shock value, and too many characters. It was a lot better when it was just Ghouls vs Humans with a subplot of the whole one-eye'd ghoul shit.
>>148959419
Her motivations and character design is one of the few that actually makes sense and is clear cut, not needing 15 chapters and 4 cliff hangers to build up to.
>>148965847
>>being in denial about Hide literally confirming his dead
>Being outright delusion about "confirmation" that never happened in the manga.
>Marude is confirmed to cooperating with Hide.
>hurrdurr Hide dead.
You're not even trying.
>>148955262
Author is a hack. Couldn't live up to the hype of the first series. This shit is falling apart at lightning speed.
>>148965922
I like the idea of V being behind the Wasshus and the CCG as a whole since they've always been a third party, but the amount of characters that are secretly working for an organization but then were actually secretly against the organization is way to high and is only there to try to make the plot more convoluted.
>>148965986
You got the "character design" part right, at least.
>>148966091
Touka has a very appealing character design.
>>148958583
Where is the reply calling you a Etofag? Why the fuck are the janitors such Etocucks and always delete Furuta pics? This is seriously retarded.
>>148966175
Whats wrong? I am an etofag and I like furuta too
I am envious he got to hit that ass, but besides that, there is no reason for etofags to hate furutafags
Lets just be tomodachi.
Just laugh, (Its fun!)
>>148966070
Also I'm a little upset that Mutsuki's potential to be a "light in the darkness" character is completely shattered. You would think with the realization of his past he could have become a better person whose allowed to see shades of gray between right and wrong, now he's just complete asshole.
>>148966239
This guy is based, just enjoy their characters, they are both pretty based characters that are gonna die in last arc, so lets enjoy the rest of the manga.
even being an etofag, I hope eto jobs again to furuta.
>>148966239
no I don't care, it's just memeposting, I'm mad posts with furuta images get deleted a lot in these threads with no reason.
It's like janitors or whoever monitors these threads want only the shitposts they like in here.
>>148966347
>he
>>148966388
>replying to bait
>>148966388
>>148966471
Wasn't really bait, I just don't care what Mutsuki is considering someone's going to be a cunt and throw a fit regardless.
>>148966347
Eh Takizawa, Tsukiyama, Kaneki, Amon, Mado, Touka, the Kirishimas and every member of Aogiri was worse.
They all go on a rampage whenever something they don't like was happening.
Mutsuki just had a mental breakdown and attacked a long time enemy and someone who helped him after he slaughtered all her comrades.
>>148966471
There are no decent posts in this thread.
>>148955262
>Ishida teasing with miza, eto, naki, amon yomo and touka, ayato, hinami and banjou dying just to let them live (specialy eto and miza being "dead" +10 chapters, it was obvious that even miza dead wouldnt be that anticlimatic, but holy crap. Cheap drama that doesnt go anywhere.
>Too many things in one arc, that took too many fucking chapters, making ishida use unnecesary cliffhangers like suposed deaths like in point 1
>500 characters coming back for no reason, like irimi, koma.
>kirishimas and their retarded plan with 0 sense, they literally just fucking everything up. And even after being retarded they get saved by kaneki multiple times and by fucking eto.
>Many fucking asspulls
>Furuta, even if I like his character, being too much of an op garystu mememagic. I am fine with him beating eto but at least dont fucking offscreen their fight just because "final boss has to be op as fuck"
>scarecrow in a boat, for what purpose
>and last but not least, mutsuki
>>148966356
Etofags and furutafags should ally
>>148958194
first season is alright but you might aswell read the manga because it covers the same stuff but much better. Season 2 of the anime is a narrative mess and should be avoided, it's crap.
>>148966044
Now this is a new level of being assblasted
>>148966646
>>148966580
Amon and Mado are in the shade of gray area, and Keneki is probably the most freelancer character in the series, but I can agree with Takizawa, Tsukiyama, and the Kirishimas. It's also pretty annoying how self-righteous the Q's are considering they have no idea of whose actually in charge and whats good and bad, but maybe thats intended.
>>148966681
>assblasted
I don't think you know what that word means.
>>148966646
This is the only logical solution.
Laugh! (It's fun!)
>x-fag post but they dont fight each other
>Tg thread a monday
>>148966729
>Amon and Mado are in the shade of gray area
Mado betrayed her allies pretty quickly, but Amon was just a hypocrite.
>Keneki is probably the most freelancer character in the series
He let ghouls loose on the prison guards and destroyed their weapons so Arima could kill him and he could rescue his cute human auctioning imouto.
>It's also pretty annoying how self-righteous the Q's are considering they have no idea of whose actually in charge and whats good and bad, but maybe thats intended.
When did they come off as self righteous? Urie hates ghouls with a passion and the new ones seem cocky.
Beyond that they don't seem any more self-righteous than any other character.
I think Kaneki's one eyed king is a lot more self-righteous.
>>148967085
How is Amon a Hypocrite? His intention was to convince Takizawa to leave Aogiri whilst protecting Mado. Not to mention the whole saving Yonabashi and his statements in the most recent chapter. Keneki's always been the gray shaded character, more so in the original. Now its mainly to appeal to his agenda at the moment. Keneki has always been a character that can flip sides depending on which choice he believes is best. While the Q's are acting a understandable manner, it's just a shame thats the direction they went in. Rather than questioning the system and thinking "Hey, maybe there's more to all of this" they blindly follow a higher power, one in which ironically has crumbled from the inside.
>>148967406
Spouting about being ghoul investigators and working with/telling Takizawa to join up with the :re crew.
Questioning the system really doesn't change much as there has been no real alternative mentioned.
Kaneki flips sides for what is convenient to him nothing more.
>>148966746
Said the assblasted one.
>>148965847
I don't even care about Hide, I dropped TG with arc, but with this kind of manga you don't assume anyone is dead... ever.
>>148966547
Please, fuck off or control your SJW.
>>148959128
It's hard for us to see things as interesting because we're still craving the main characters that we've spent the most time with.
We're probably going to get a bit of Kaneki+Touka+Hinami (good), then some boring shit with Aura and the Chinese girl (bad), then who knows what. We also need more development on Akira, Amon, Yomo, and Uta (good), but I bet we'll waste time learning more about some O squad people (bad). Oh and let's not forget that now Kaneki is going to reconnect with Aogiri people (good). AND we'll still have to develop V's plot simultaneously (good, but I want some more character interaction first). There's way too much shit to do. At least when the manga was more limited to Kaneki's scope, we were able to progress a bit faster.
The manga isn't bad for seeming so cluttered, but it's a pain in the ass when it can only move along one chapter per week. Waiting for everything to happen is suffering.
>>148967987
>(You)
Furuta is the only unpredictable and savage character left that I look forward to.
>>148955262
>no one mentions the shit-fest that has become the art
You can hardly tell what is going on,or who is who by the scribble-tier art and the fact that he is trying to hide it behind a shitton of shading doesnt help. I miss old clean TG
>>148969863
>>148969863
>>no one mentions the shit-fest that has become the art
Holy shit THIS, his art peaked during TG1 finale, I have no idea what the fuck happened with :Re.
>>148969975
didn't he go from monthly to weekly?
>>148969863
I noticed that in the last chapter especially. It took my twice as long to read just because I had to scrunch my eyes at the blobs of black on the page.
why is he crying? which investigator died offscreen last chapter when they fought Tsukiyama and co.?
Is he crying for Washuu, or did he get the news of Arima?
>>148970393
Arima -the strongest investigator.
>>148970440
Is that Taishi Fura the investigator then? Or a different person, it's hard to tell with the art
>>148970540
>smoking man hanging around with Ui
It's clearly Hairu
>>148969863
Yes I fucking do every chapter,
Thing which disappoint me the most is that Eto, Tatara, Noro and Shachi( will include him too) got such
anticlimactic ends in :re.
>>148955262
they decided to cuck hinami, who is mot deserving of Kaneki in order to make the kirishima twins more relevent. For a start.
Seriously part 1 should ended with Kaneki death for real.
It was good story.
:re ruined part 1.
:re should follow some other character from CCG side a human character who is hunting down Amon.
That character will slowly uncover truth about CCG and met characters from previous part.
And for fuck sake should gave Arima some other character depth.
Make Arima and character X actual teacher and student relationship not that dumb daddy and son bullshit it was seriously badly done.
Also character X hates Arima.
Yes :re main protagonist should have been Hirako.
>>148955262
Quinx shit shouldn't have happened. At least not to the extent it's been given anyways. Their purpose in the story so far is simply being CCG's lapdog so Ishida bothering to make them the "new" deuteragonists feels so fuckin unnecessary and boring.
Instead, Ishida should've focused more on the deuteragonist he already had. It's a fact that Amon has been handled disgustingly. His role needed to be much bigger in :re so as to not make you question why Ishida bothered giving him a fuckin ton of attention in part one only to fuck him over for two years with cockteases and then have him job for 10 chapters straight when he finally returns. His role could've helped filled the ghoul side of the story that was a huge part of the original and is sorely lacking in the sequel.
>>148958583
All these monster ghoul hybrids hyped to hell and back are dead or can't stop jobbing, and now we're left with fagboy Furuta.
>>148973187
>fagboy
He has done all the work of that the characters like Amon and Kaneki should do.
His personality is frivolous and arrogant but I think at this point, he deserves a little more respect. He can do his shit.
>don kaneki arc is still the best arc
>>148971724
Neither Eto nor Shachi are confirmed dead. The other two, I agree with.
It's time to remember those we've lost in this shitty one year long arc.
>Subject: Chuu Hachikawa
>Cause of death: Irrelevancy; Rio got his nose
>Details: Never got to meet woof woof in hell because of plot armor
>Subject: Shunji Shiono
>Cause of death: Men's cooking
>Details: Delicious editor pate
>>148974759
>Cause of death: ACHOOOOOOOO
>Subject: MitsuSHITa
>Cause of death: Slice and dice
>Details: Only fodder given a name
>>148974759
>Subject: Arima Kishou
>Cause of death: Suicide. Slit his own throat because his faggot son was to pussy to kill him.
>Details: His dick will be forever sucked in death by friends and foes alike for all eternity. A trueanhero.
>>148974759
I like to imagine faggots like you pouring over the chapters with some bizarre obsession spawned from your hatred of the series.
Trying to find every flawed detail, cropping page scans to attach to long winded diatribes on Ishida's failings.
I'm honestly uncertain whether you're an autistic retard, or some troll. Possibly both.
>>148974992
>Slit his own throat because his faggot son was to pussy to kill him.
Literally had to off himself in the end.
Akira dying has ruined this for me. Especially in that maner.
>>148969863
>>148969975
>>148970164
The art is the only reason I have trouble telling what's happening. I'm sure reading it from scans don't help but damn is it annoying sometimes.
Anyone who still likes this garbage is a genuine retard. It's a compete and utter trainwreck.
>>148975446
These are my favorite posts. Tokyo Ghoul threads are garbage too.
Maybe a timeskip will fix it.
>>148957127
>hide confirmed dead
how
>>148969863
Fucking this. It's like he just started vomiting ink onto the canvas, what the fuck happened?
>>148976488
The earlier art is so fucking ugly. Those eyes and that scene girl hairstyle of Toukas, my fucking sides.
>>148976488
Ishida's art is always inconsistent.
It depends on the mood.
>>148976869
>implying implications
>>148969863
>>148976488
Ishida doesn't care too much anymore but what I noticed is that the art already changed drastically right in the first chapter of :re.
For some time I really thought an assistant is responsible for the art now.
Now :re looks like a sketchy mess. Some pages might look good when Ishida tries but most of it are just atrocious scribbles with no detail.
Why doesn't Kaneki just visit a psychiatrist?
>>148977086
>implying he ever needed one
He was gonna be FINE.
>>148976991
same face
>Subject: Karao Saeki
>Cause of death: Raped by fugly trap
>Details: Died with a smile on his face; with his waifu now
>Subject: Yoshitoki Washuu
>Cause of death: Offscreened
>Details: Penetrated by big kagune shard
> ITT: People complaining about the art of all things in :re
I can accept that his storytelling isn't the best and that non-permanent character deaths is part of that reason but Ishida's art has drastically improved since his earlier days.
Just because it's an atypical style doesn't mean it's bad art.
>See based Jiro Matsumoto or Nisei
>>148973551
Anteiku raid was the best arc.
>Subject: Shinme Haisaki
>Cause of death: Clowned
>Details: Couldn't keep his head in the game
>>148977541
This.
>Subject: Tatara
>Cause of death: Jobbing to Pineapple
>Details: Wishes never came true
>Subject: Kousuke Houji
>Cause of death: Offscreened #2
>Details: Shouldn't have provoked the Owl
>>148977711
why did my man have to die
>>148977291
>>148977428
>>148977711
>>148977808
These are pretty good.
I miss the character chart.
>>148977508
It's not necessarily bad, but his art is far harder to follow than his old art was, and I much prefer his old style. It was much cleaner and easier to understand.
>Subject: Tsuneyoshi Washuu
>Cause of death: Offscreened #3
>Details: Never made time for his son
>>148977808
Houji literally died for nothing. Akira didn't even avenge him, fuck that bitch.
all the hot guys are dead. only ones left are kaneki and urie
>>148977995
What about Touka's brother what'shisname, he's hot.
It's all over the place right now, i dont even know whats going on anymore.
Cant even tell which character is which because of the designs being too similar in panels also cant even remember their names.
The shock value gets stale when he does it every 2 seconds, trying way too hard to be edgy even for a seinen.
>>148978060
You're right anon, you got me there. Also there's Yomo and Uta. So I got five hot guys left.
>>148977995
He is hot.
>>148977930
I agree that it was easier to follow, but only because he now adds much more detail into his art and experiments with panelling.
Just a quick search between comparisons of his old and new style make this clear.
But yes I do understand why some prefer his old works. Although the others that say his current art style is bad are clearly deluding themselves.
>>148978187
literally disgusting.
>>148978187
Daddy issues manchild.
>>148978226
Then that depends on your preferences.
>>148978218
the fucking ears
>>148978280
Kaneki? Yeah I can understand why he is a cuck who never has the balls to kill Arima.
>>148978291
thought that was tsukiyama, my bad. id let him dom me.
Not enough King Kaneki, I hoped he would completely rek the special classes. Eto died. Rue was too long and retarded. Almond dead, now theres no more Amon-Kaneki interaction or Amon-Papa interaction. Powerlevels were confusing as fuck.
Just bad in general.
So we have two Kings now, but the real question remains.
Who is the Tokyo Ghoul?
>>148978613
The strongest king would be the clear choice
>>148978344
>literally disgusting.
>thought that was tsukiyama, my bad. id let him dom me.
Kaiko is that you?
I miss the Tsukiyama arc
>>148978560
>Eto dead
>Amon dead
Is this your first manga?
>>148977995
The only remotely fuckable character in TG is Tsukiyama.
>>148979972
>remotely fuckable character in TG is Tsukiyama.
i wouldnt even let himeat me out
>>148980110
Most of the characters in TG are not for fuck.
>>148980316
I disagree, Ayato/Urie/Amon/Arima/Furata are made for it.
>>148979510
it was the best one yet, perfect build up, pacing, nothing felt out of place or convoluted, no interruptions in fights and they felt natural
>>148977158
are they gonna hatefuck at the end of this or what
>>148965922
This seems like a fairly typical problem with series. Same thing happened with Shingeki too.
>>148969863
Yeah fuck, it looks like garbage now. It's like I'm reading HxH.
>>148956552
>But his father just punches his way out of confinement offscreen. What was the point of all that, if dad wasn't walking to his death?
And if his dad was actually imprisoned it would have made more since for him to be in this arc
>>148977995
The hottest male character is still alive anon
>>148980500
>Urie
He's for bullying m8.
>>148957127
>>148984069
Amon, Yoshimura shachi, eto, shinohara
After that hide shirazu hairu and arata
>>148984069
Why is Gori there?
She hasn't appeared at all in RE, but she was alive at the end of TG, so it doesn't mean she's dead and will come back.
>>148984268
Because at this point she might as well be
>>148984069
No Takizawa