SHELTER Film Review

>>148912496
Better than MEMEME

>>148912496
Good for my 2D foot fetish

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My new favorite short/music video. It introduced me to my daughterfu.

Music was shit

>>148912496
Looks gorgeous. Music may not be for everyone but I liked it despite never really listening to the genre. Story is hardly revolutionary or deep but it's told well enough.

What is it? Is it meant to be a demo? An advert?

>>148912496
it was a beautiful short. Every single frame was created with love and passion, and while a lot of people give it shit I have to stand by it. I doubt that you could do much better with a 6 minute short, and in my opinion, Shelter hit the nail on the head.

>>148914547
music video

>>148912496
Cute girl, terrible music.
Waste of time

>>148914552
fag

>>148914552
>>148914464
>>148913125
>>148912504
>>148912562
>samefag

music was good, visuals were okay by anime standards but amazing for a music video

I'm gonna assume anyone crying to it and saying it's a masterpiece is a spic who's watched 10 anime in his lifetime (all shounenshit)

>>148912504
Came here to post this. Shelter is for every audience and mememeshit would cause most viewers ro roll eyes.

>>148912496
Looks good, the music is okay, the story doesn't make much sense. It's what you would expect from a 6 minute music video. The only thing that made me rage was the line about moving forward. What forward? The girl is stuck in an infinite loop for Christ's sake. I want to punch the retards who came up with and greenlighted that line. That line alone made me rage.

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>>148914552
>you're not allowed to criticise unless you are able to do it better

>>148914580
Yes but it was made for a purpose, wasn't it? Unless I misunderstood something, this is not a personal project of one person, A-1 actually was involved.

>>148914799
Woah there tough guy

>>148914888
The musician liked anime and got a studio to make a video about one of his songs. End of story.

>>148914965
You mean the guy likes anime so much that he paid A-1 with his own money to make a 6 minute music video just because he felt like it?

>>148912496
Song is ok to good, looks pretty gorgeous but the music and the video don't mix together and you better not start thinking of the meaning of the lyrics since sometimes what's happening on screen is the complete opposite of what's in the lyrics.
>"I know I'm not alone if you're watching over us until you're gone" in the lyrics
>Girl receives a "Sorry I'm gone" at the end of the video so I guess she realizes she's alone now
>"With that letter now I know I'm not alone!"

Even the main sentence of the lyrics is void of any sense since she has absolutely nothing to shelter.

How did Japan react to this?

>>148915075
I mean he did what is done with every single fucking music video ever. He just chose an anime studio instead of a live-action studio. It doesn't have to be a demo or anything.

>>148914706
>music was good
>visuals were okay
What the fuck?

>>148915185
So you are saying it's an advert for the song? Because that's what music video were originally made for.

>>148915100
Unless I've been missing some deep meanings this whole time, music videos usually don't have anything to do with the songs.

>>148915306
Anon, you were told from the very beginning that this was a music video.

>>148915100
point is you're not alone as long as you have memories of someone else

I do agree it's depressing as shit and whiffs hard on the whole optimistic angle it seems to be trying for

girl will probably kill herself as she grows up and fully realizes how alone and hopeless everything is

like dad what the fuck, what part of that was a good idea

What's the point of leaving your daughter behind? How she can possibly survive alone in entire universe.

>>148912496
Good video, horrible music

>>148912496
It's not much of a "film" but it's a pretty good music video.

>>148915671
Maybe he couldn't bare to watch his daughter die on earth?

Stop shilling this.

>>148912496
>Review

Are we MAL now?

Oh wait.

>>148916282
Considering the size of that object he wouldn't see anything. Leaving her living futile life inside a cube alone forever is far more cruel.

Expected something better when I heard about a Madeon x Robinson collab. Frankly, the song sucks, and the video could be a bit better (the 3D was jarring)

>>148912496
Nice video, good story, amazing design. Good job A1

>>148916423
Is it though? If she dies on earth then she never really had a chance to live. Even though it's sad that she is stuck living in the cube it is living.

I was somewhat disappointed by it. The disappointment mostly stems from the interesting concept but relatively underwhelming execution.

The art was good. The music was fine. The problem was scene construction and cinematography. The concept of manipulating one's environment with a tablet was poorly presented, visually. I don't think there's a clear shot of the tablet and the environment being manipulated in the same shot. It's always: show one, then cut to the other.

There is also a lack of imagination in presenting the idea of having power over the environment in the first place. The majority of shots in the whole short just show the loli sitting in various places like on stone pillars or ice or near trees. It doesn't really show her creating this shit. So visually we mostly see the result of her creation rather than the process of creating, which would be more interesting.

Then, of course, the tragic back story, which was competent I guess. But it ate up more time. It's like it was an excuse to animate even less cool scenes of creating interesting environments with the tablet.

With the limited time they gave themselves to show cool scenes, they didn't really capitalize. The visual inventiveness was mediocre. The art itself was good but was used in service of overall underwhelming scenes and animation.

I give it like 6/10

>>148915671
I do find it odd that the show is framing the literal hell a father has created for his daughter into something positive. I mean she's aging in the pod, most likely suffering from muscle atrophy and bone deformation thanks to the microgravity environment and the cables she's plugged into respectively. Knowing space, she'll probably die in there and the occasional (I also imagine they're pre-scripted and appear when the system detects a mental instability) letters her father wrote can only take her so far.

>>148915718
I'm of one opinion with you. The visuals great as expected since based Kouno is on it, but the music not only doesn't match the video, it's also shit compared to the usual outputs of either artists.

All in all it's a pretty good MV. Better than It Girl, worse than GIRL.

>lets make a nice looking shorts and ruin it with horrible music

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>>148916645
Lot's of other kids perished. She seems fine but her father couldn't know whether she will be ok with that or not. Now she will go on with living knowing that her life is completely futile and meaningless (and I don't mean it in nihilistic way). That's worse than being dead. Unless she meets Ford Perfect.

There is interesting bit tho, the monitor on her right started showing some trajectory at the end.

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>Unironically listening to EDM music, let alone unironically listening to Porter Robinson
I know the anime community has shit taste in music, and to extent the Japanese portion as well, but how the fuck did they think giving something like this to some shitty random EDM artist was a good idea.

>>148917363
Will she be able to commit suicide somehow? I mean, she's going to descend into madness sooner or later.

She may delay the whole thing somewhat by designing whole cities and countries, making nice, natural landscapes..and making physical challenges for herself without relying on the tablet to rescue her.

>>148915306

Yes.

>>148917363
But isn't it better to give the girl the choice of death or not? If he lets her die then it's over, but if she wants to live out what little of life her father gave her she can.

>>148916677
No, emphasizing the creation would have been a mistake. There's a difference between lazily doodling random sketches and consciously designing a world. If you watch the character animation closely it's clear that she lacks the energy to form a clear image and consciously design something. But more importantly, I think the point of the tablet was not just to recreate exactly what she designed, but to interpret her loose ideas and create a world that would satisfy that. Not only would it be boring to merely recreate what you already imagined, most children do not even have the mental capability to form clear images in their head and draw them. This is especially evident when you see how simplistic her drawings were, even as a teenager.

So the tablet and her sketches are not really important at all. They are merely a method for her to specify what she wants. Like when you go to a restaurant, you might say, "I want the foie terrine", but it is up to the chef to decide how to actually create and present the dish. It would be a mistake for a film to focus on you ordering dishes, instead of how you feel when you are surprised with a great dish or dissppointed with a poor one.

>>148917840
Yes, but autistic /a/nons can't comprehend the possibility that other people might actually want to make choices different from their own. Autists literally cannot comprehend that different people have their own will and desires.

>>148918162
This is correct. Autismos don't understand that concept of self exists outside of themselves.

>>148918309
Sounds awful.

>>148912496
>Porter Robinson
>Madeon

REE!!! WHITE PIGGGU GET OUT!

>>148918344
Imagine if you thought to yourself, "If somebody were to hit me, I'd be pissed." Now imagine if I asked you, "If a guy got hit, how would he feel?" and you said, sincerely, "I have no idea. How am I supposed to know?"

That's some aspects of autism in a nut shell. You don't realize that in other people is a human mind similar to yourself. There are differences between individuals, but they're more subtle.

I have a feeling that the people who say "Why didn't they just do this?" when they're watching a movie are more commonly autistic than not.

>Hey /a/ what do you think of this thing for the 30th time?

Does most of /a/'s collective memory just reset every few hours? Honest question cause I've never seen this with any other forum where it just keeps recycling the same topics over and over like they're brand new

>>148917878

That doesn't address my criticisms though because the actual creation (independent of the tablet) still looks like unimaginative shit.

Compare this short to the scene in My Neighbor Totoro where the kids make the big tree grow in their backyard. That one scene completely blows this whole short out of the water, visually speaking. In this short, a tree moves like 10 meters to the left. Who cares? The scene from Totoro was awe inspiring. This short, not so much.

>>148916387

Is /a/ absolutely fucking retarded and just can't create any new topics or posts anymore? Yes.

Probably time to sit things out for a while, come back in a few months see if somebody bothers to make some new topics and posts or remembers how to be funny cause this season is a snore with it.

Girl is pretty cute. Music is alright. Father's love is a beautiful thing.

Now, more importantly, lets talk about the nature of the short. That's a big fucking decision for the dad to make, to ship his daughter off into space where she'll be the master of her own world. I assume that this was because of some impending doom of the real world. Did the father make the right decision? Was his daughter better off surviving in space in a shelter where she'd never encounter another human being, or would cyanide capsules have been the better choice?

On the surface, it seems like a lovely thing to do, but it sends chills down my spine to think about what a miserable and lonely experience it would be in space like that. Father's love or not, that is fucking rough. In fact, the father's love maybe makes it tougher than anything else.

The song itself is pretty beautiful.
All about appreciating the love of a parent, and promising to pass it on.

I really resonate with it in that sense.
The movie feels appropriate, and isn't too sappy.

I don't have a foot fetish, but I think I would have felt like less of a creep if the
girl had shoes on or something. I feel like an animation like this could give some people
the wrong idea in terms of the of the design choice of the MC.

It's not exactly groundbreaking in terms of music or anime, but it was a very good
project that stands as a great work of art.

>>148917572
I don't really like him that much, but Porter's better than most nigger.

>>148918724
Most people here don't have /a/ open 8+ hours a day.

>>148919351

Neither do I just remember when a topic has already been analyzed to fucking death and back again and there's absolutely nothing new to possibly add about it that will benefit anyone.

>>148919335
>I don't have a foot fetish
You clearly have one, you're just in denial about it and afraid that other people might notice it.

>>148914752
>Shelter is for every audience
Exactly what a marketing video is supposed to be.

>Reddit/MAL wants a full anime out of the video

Why? It has no potential for 12 episodes.
The plot is straightforward and completed in 6 minutes.

>>148919335
>I don't have a foot fetish

Neither do I, but man, I know how to appreciate a good-looking foot. Then again, I'm in femdom so it kinda ties in with the whole thing, too.

I still want to believe that the dad installed a beacon into her capsule, and that the other global superrich that escaped will find another survivor and rescue her.

>>148919770

Because they're stupid and not thinking logically, just being dumb hype kids. They don't care about shit, they just want more of something to comment and react to in generic ways

>>148919770
What about a series of 5-minute shorts where she does something to pass the time, slowly getting lonelier and more depressed until the final episode she goes mad from the emptiness of space, having exhausted all her ideas to do anything on the tablet.

I'm not sure on the exact science, but wouldn't the rocket launch have been extremely difficult, since the object was right over the launch site, and such a fuckhuge body would mess with the launch due to its gravity?

>>148914552
It's not even a short. IT'S FUCKING AMV

>>148919770
I want my 12 episode anime(s) to have this quality of animation though.

>>148920215
>quality of animation

There's hardly any animation you fucking redditor.

>>148920215
>animes

Go back to whenever you came from.

>>148912496
Cool visuals, animation and music, but I feel it fell short on storytelling. The themes of loneliness and solitude wasn't really backed up by the visuals. If she at least made some imaginary friends and stories with her tablet/pad instead of random cool looking areas, it would've enforced the impression that she was trying to ignore her loneliness.

Also I feel they could've had a cooler way to present her repressed memories instead of standard flashbacks. It also fell back on exposition in the end despite the story being really simple.
SHELTER had good visuals, but lazy storytelling.

>>148920028
That's not really adding anything new to story and it's kind of implied she's at the end of her rope already.

It was pretty good. Nothing I'll really remember in a year but it definitely feels like passion project and the song is catchy.

neo-/a/ is really insanely bad though so it'll probably be hated within a week or so.

agreed. Nice hands are also just attractive.
Feet are things that are usually under clothing in public, so feet are sort of attractive.
I don't go out looking for foot porn though.

>>148914552
this is bait, right?

>>148921188
Meant to quote>>148919955

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I really enjoyed it, had me tearing up. Mind you I am a complete sucker for 'beautiful apocalypse' style story lines, as well as paternal sacrifice. The story wasn't particularly dense, and we don't feel for the characters themselves rather than the idea of a father and daughter, but regardless tugged at my heart strings.

Animation was top notch, and I'm a fan of a lot of Porter's work so the song was pretty good.

I see a lot of people reading into the intricacies of how Rin is surviving and if shes just destined to wander space till she dies, but I think that's irrelevant to the actual themes in the short. The main point is her father saved her in an act of selflessness, and now she lives on with his memories. Add to that (I'm going against what I said about it not mattering here but whatever) the fact that there's no way scientist smart enough to make a spaceship, life support and virtual reality system would just shoot his daughter up into space without the pod having a destination.

>>148914633
>Only my opinion matters and everyone else is a same fag.

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>>148914799
I believe it was Porter Robinson. Btw, what you said reminded me of this tweet

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>it's a porter robinson at mogra episode

i only wish i could be as successful a weeb as porter

>>148925503

Some trip in the buyfag thread was working with Shaft on some video project last I heard. That was a while ago though

>>148920028
see
>>148919984

>>148912496
The music and the short didnt even match

Music sucks dick but it's incredibly catchy and it's killing me

Aphex Twin X Shaft when

>>148925904
cutting on beat is amateur thing to do for an editor

>>148921378
But where, ←←か

Wonder if its a black or wormhole. Time travalか

>>148912496
What film?
There is only the 6 minutes episode.

>>148915195
Porter is a very good at what he does. Video was pretty meh.

>>148919770
I would dig a 12 episode anime about a prequel of this, where the father fights and works to create that thing for his daughter.
Also maybe the last episode to be a few years after the catastrophe that shows the daughter and how she's trying to cope with all that.

>>148928776
That could actually work. Start with s normal SoL showing his love for her and end it with the announcement of the object heading towards earth.

>>148926585
I've always heard this and I've never been sure why.

Why is it so frowned upon? Is it because it's too obvious, or because there's some editor sanctity/pretentiousness about not having the cuts dictated by something else?

>>148918601
>I have a feeling that the people who say "Why didn't they just do this?" when they're watching a movie are more commonly autistic than not.
This is a totally valid question when what the character actually did defies all logic for no reason.

What is there to even talk about? The story is pretty generic, and I guess the music is okay if you're into generic EDM

>>148912496
Some people think the girl attempted suicide at the beginning of the video just because she was letting himself fall deep into some sea without struggling to go up to breathe air.

What do you guys think?

On the other hand, I think the girl doesn't really know the concept of suicide since her dad probably wouldn't program the ability to feel pain in the stimulation.

>alone in an empty VR world
>not even some rudimentary animal AIs
Yeah, she'll go insane before the life support croaks. What a bright future.

>>148928923
Because cutting supposed to be the storytelling tool first and not stylistic schtick. Every film has internal flow and rhytm which editing follows and most of the time percussion has nothing to do with it. BUT sometimes it can, but then beat must be fully functional storytelling tool for using it properly. One of the most known examples of doing it on point is Requiem for a dream.

>>148929256
Was it so hard for the dad to program a few seagulls or fish?

Not even butterflies man.

>>148929288
But it's a music video. Shouldn't the point of the music video be to fit the music? In a movie, the point of everything is to tell a story. In a music video, that might be the case, but it's more to go with the music.

>>148929357
He supposedly "didn't have time". Which I agree with, if a celestial object like that hangs that close to Earth he definitely won't have enough time to do any of that (escape pod included).

>>148929485
Most of the music videos telling story, and cutting on beat makes it too predictable. Also, it's drawing attention to the fact of cut. I'm not saying it always prohibited but it's working in way less situations then you might think.
Also, the point of this particular video is defintly to tell coherent story.

I skipped through it because I couldn't stand the music. Animatrix was better. Go rewatch World Record instead.

>>148929489
Rather than devoting time to only backgrounds, I try to upload digital libraries so my daughter doesn't just aimlessly explore all day long.

Maybe she can learn some math or science during those 7 years or read fantasy books to inspire her to build more amazing worlds.

Like I don't know, create a real life maze made of bushes and try to figure out how to get out with her own effort.

>>148929485
Many music videos have nothing to do with the music at all. Often they might just present a similar "feel" or theme with a different narrative, or a narrative that is time-shifted (usually after) from the events in the song. Music is too simple to represent the whole space of visual storytelling, it is like trying to represent 3D space with 2 coordinates, so there is a lot of room for the video to interpret what the z coordinate is.

>>148921378
>in an act of selflessness
Pretty selfish to condemn your daughter to a life of absolute solitude just because you can't bear the thought of her dying with everyone else.

>>148929146
If I knew it wouldn't kill me I would try sinking into the sea too and let my worries wash away or something. The vast emptiness dotted with marine life is pretty cool.

>>148929901
This. If the father even believes in the afterlife, he is just delaying a family reunion with the girl's mother in the afterlife.

Unless the father actually believes in aliens and hoping for some unknown entity to encounter his daughter in space.

If I were a 100 percent optimist, perhaps humanity is already into space exploration and space mining? So perhaps, we already have space mining companies in space and the dad sent his daughter to an area of our solar system that has space miners present?

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>>148912496
It looked great and the story was touching though nothing spectacular, but man Madeon only knows how to make one song.

I guess I don't even know how the song was made since both of them are credited for the music but definitely it sounded like Madeon performed the song

>>148929901
Parents do all the selfish things while thinking it's out of selflessness and love.
Nothing wrong with it.

>>148929979
Unfortunately, the dad's virtual reality program doesn't seem to allow any other life to appear besides plants and the girl.

The girl can't even go oyster hunting for pearls or hang onto the back of a nearby dolphin.

The dad could have allowed some vehicles to appear though like cars, planes, submarines, etc

>>148929256
>>148930174
The virtual reality is actually an illusion. There's no computer creating the virtual environment, it is all in her head. The tablet is merely used to help her form her ideas more clearly (like how one might jot down notes or mindmaps). That is why when she recalled those memories, the world actually collapsed, there is no reason for a simulation to do that, it could have just loaded the memory scene like how it rendered all the other scenes. Because she was so traumatized by the events, she blocked out all her thoughts and memories and could only dream of simple environments, which does not take much thought or effort. Now that she is finally able to accept the past, she can once again build on those memories and experiences to create more vivid world that are full of life again, including animals and even other personalities. That is what was meant by "moving forward".

t. Madeon

>>148930961
>That is what was meant by "moving forward".
Ah, sinking even deeper into feverish delusions. That's even worse than an empty VR simulation.

Waiting on the version of the song that they used in the video, with the piano and strings at the end.

Anyone have it by chance?

>>148915417

He's just trying to find something negative about it because he's a miserable fuck

>>148929901
it is selfish to preserve your genes and the human race

so yeah he is pretty selfish, but it's the kind of selfish we need when humanity faces extinction

>>148931416
how is the human race gonna continue with only one person and no hope of reproducing

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>>148931416
Anon, I know you don't get out much but one little girl hooked up on a life support system won't restart the human race.

>>148931080
only way to get it is to rip the video

Thought it was better than most anime man,

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>Stuck at University
>Don't get to watch my Niece grow up
>This video reminds me of that fact

>>148928996
I think what people consider logic is incorrect. For instance, a common scenario is when the murderer is rendered incapacitated, and rather than going for the execution, the person runs and hides. This is why I say they're autistic. They see a panicked human being and expect them to make reasonable decisions. People do absurd things when they panic, and anybody who can't appreciate that is fairly disconnected from the human condition.

Logic is not, "What would've been the smart thing to do was kill him."

Logic is, "What would a panicked human being do?"

Illogical would be what Lelouch did with Euphemia in Code Geass. That kind of careless banter was totally out of character and he was not panicked. For a character to change is one thing, but that was too abrupt.

Okay so serious question, How has she not gotten better at drawing after 7 years in that shit, her drawings look about as good as mine.

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>>148933434
They did.

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k-on face automatically makes it a 0/10.

>>148933434
she had no one to teach her how to do better and no other drawings to look at and realize she can do better

meh, decent

Porter has much better songs though

>>148930961
>>148931072
Doesn't this turn into Big O then should the girl start recreating life on Earth?

Complete trash. Can this normie porter robinson just fuck off and leave anime to the Japanese?

I really do not want anime to become trendy and become the new capeshit or something similar. Leave my hobby alone

>>148935262
It's okay you have nothing to worry about

>>148935262
too late anon, with vidya on the decline the normie crowd needs something else to latch onto and drain it's life

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>>148935129
>recreating life on Earth?
What Earth?

>>148936360
We were talking about the girl moving on and starting to move on from simple worlds to more complex, realistic worlds complete with stimulated life like people and animals.

So for example, the girl creates a stimulated highschool and pretends to go to school with her classmates.

The girl starts acting like she is in a play.

>>148934267
Is that a fucking tamagotchi to the left?

>>148936750
Looks like it.

>>148932948
>Illogical would be what Lelouch did with Euphemia in Code Geass. That kind of careless banter was totally out of character and he was not panicked. For a character to change is one thing, but that was too abrupt

I'd partially disagree with that. It's irrational, but not entirely illogical. He engaged in careless banter with a beloved relative in order to demonstrate how his brainwashing power could do anything. The specific choice of phrase is contrived, but his having that conversation is not "out of character" because, as matter of fact, Lelouch is often at his most emotional vulnerable when dealing with his close family. He wasn't panicked, like when Nunnally was in danger, but the idea of sharing a secret with someone made him sloppy. Stupid choice of words, but I don't see the situation as out of character.

>>148937204
>The specific choice of phrase is contrived

I'll settle for that.

>>148912496
>Film
It's a flick

All things considered the thing that surprises me the most is that i've not seen any r34 of this yet. Like i've not looked for it but still.

>>148937817
yeah, nothing on paheal (yet)

what if we're all just part of a simulation designed by a mad scientist wanting to keep his daughter entertained in the vast loneliness of space

>>148929485
I thought the music was nice, but it definitely did not fit in with the music video

>>148938260
That's where I thought it was going. Just like Blazblue.

Prequel to Haruhi

Girl is on ship thinking she is god when really it's all just part of simulation.

>>148939245
But Haruhi doesn't think she's god.

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>>148917688
>yfw her father downloaded every game, show, and book ever into the machine

i mean if /a/ can get by shell be fine

>>148941860
You forget that /a/ gets a good dose of human interaction via shitting on anons' tastes and waifus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAIDqt2aUek

I believe this is connected to the story. I think she just drifted through space for a hundred years, maybe her body died and her consciousness lived on in the simulation.

Either she was found by an alien lifeform or a colony of human survivors.

>>148939245
It's more of a sequel to Sad Machine

>>148914552
Faggot detected

>>148942349
Wouldn't it be a prequel?

Then some robot finds her.

>>148942586
Sorry that's what I meant to say

>>148942586
i'd also go to say that in terms of songs that are linked, It would go
>goodbye to a world
>Shelter
>Sad Machine
(Shelter needless to say being connected just by the video when only the songs are important for the other ones)