What's his endgame?

>>148826962
To keep Kamachi writing

>>148826962
Crashing academy city, with no survivors.

>>148826962
Ending magic.

acquire the eyes of heaven

>>148826962
To have an endgame

>>148828027
>His keikaku is so grand and perfect that it is perpetually constructing itself

No wonder he freaked out at the end of NT14

>>148826962
I guess posess Touman. He would make a good vessel for him.

>>148828338
>"oh shit this keikaku is too perfect"
>three days later he gets out of his piss tube because his keikaku might go to shit

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DON'T BELIEVE HER LIES
SHE IS A DEMON AND AN AGENT OF THE UPSIDE DOWN MAN

>>148828745
Even if she isn't a demon OR an entity directly controlled by Aleister, I'd bet my fucking life that at the very least made her intentionally to eventually control or she's going to end up being under his control.

I personally think she's either a demon that accidentally got put in the Network or a virus Aleister uses to have control over the Network. No matter what she isn't what she says she is and likely isn't good for the Network

Reminder that LO and Worst never gave two shits about Accel and can't wait to betray him to return with their beloved Touma.

>>148828635
>Implying Mikoto using the AAA wont be benefical to him even if he doesnt wants to

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>>148829462
I don't believe it but it's funny because it gets serious free replies every time.

>>148829179
What about Aleister purposefully putting a demon in the Network to achieve something? Control might not be what he's after. I'm quite sure he can do whatever the hell he wants with both the clones and their Network even with Accelerator and Touma protecting them regardless of Will's existence

>>148829525
Accelcucks are insecure as fuck

>>148829527
Whether she's only working with him or if she's something under his control, Will has both the clones and the protagonists in her hands. Two birds with one stone.

>>148829527
My only guess is to guide Touma and Accelerator in directions beneficial to his plan. Since he obviously had no urgency in helping Touma in his infinite hell ordeal he probably expected it to happen and that Touma would eventually crumple. Knowing that, it would make sense that he has implanted an agent that has some form of background with Touma and can phase hop to give him a pep talk and keep the keikaku doori.

>>148829660
Not only can Will freely play with Accelerator (vague threats, vague praise - she can flip flop between those as she pleases) she also has Touma at the ready to defend her if her true nature as a demon/virus comes out.

"T-T-Touma t-t-they want to erase me! H-h-h-help pls, don't worry that I'm actually a detriment to the Misaka Network! I'm sad and in trouble"

>>148829823
Just the fact she can phase hop makes me 100% convinced Aleister either made her for that purpose or at the bare minimum will be interested in her because of that. I find it difficult to believe she's an accident

>>148829882
She could do anything short of murdering his entire family and he would still help her.

>>148827575
basically, its a war between church and state. In this case magic and science

>>148830082
True. I wonder how Touma would react to her pleas for help if she was a demon/virus hurting the Network and people (HC and Accelerator I assume, maybe even Estelle) wanted to erase her

>>148830234
I can imagine he would be pretty damn protective of her after what she did for him in the omega world, so I am sure his answer will be some variation of "nobody's touching her."

>>148830351
I could see that, even if HC said "Look mate, she's hurting the clones and making them sick. The only way to stop it is erase this demon virus. It's not even a "her" really"

This would actually make a really good arc. Especially if it led to end game

>>148830495
It may not be quite like that, but I'm almost positive we are going to get a clone arc that has a shocking reveal about their true purpose right before end game.

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>Accel manga isn't completely useless after all

There's been a lot of buzz about both soul manipulation and demons lately in Raildex threads. Are you guys really expecting something to come out of it or is all the chatter just a shitposting deterrent and nothing else?

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>>148826962
To make memes real.

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Why didn't they model him on how he really looked?

>>148829462
Reminder that Estelle is researching ways to bypass vectors while raising an army of the dead so she can rape Accelerator.

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>>148831123
>Both Accel and Railgun are focusing on souls
It's not a coincidence, whatever happens in both will come into play in the main plot sooner or later. Also people can only argue about ships and which girls they want to fuck for so long.

>>148831512
It did say that he changed his face after getting fucked up by magicians or whatever it actually was. He decided, "might as well be a bishie while I have the chance" I guess.

Are there even RAWs of Accel?

>>148831815
27-29 are available, but translation/typesetting isn't starting because 26 is missing. Everyone decided to wait for volume 6 next month instead.

>>148831123
Both; posting about stuff unrelated to the arguments and shitposting only works for so long so it's best to use discussion when it's available.

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KANZAKI HELP ME AAAAAARRRRRGGHHHHH

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KANZAKI ARE YOU SEEING THIS

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OH GOD MY RUNES DON'T WORK ON HIM
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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AAAAAAA HE BLEW UP A BUS

>>148832195
YOU GOTTA TRY HARDER BOY, GET MORE OXYGEN IN THE MUSCLES!

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>>148832259
YES COACH

YAMATO DAMASHII

>>148832301
NO YOU FOOL, HE'S A NATURAL BORN YOU CAN'T MATCH HIM IN YAMATO DAMASHII.

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>>148832340
AAAARGHH COACH WHY

>>148832397
JUST SWING HARDER BOY, GIVE IT A LITTLE ENGLISH.

Let's say Will-chan really is a demon and for some reason starts posing a serious problem with the clones' well being, which would make several people decide to take action. Let's say she's able to trick Touma into defending her even though the people wanting to remove her are 100% correct. Do you think he'd win the conflict? If he did how do you think he'd handle finding out he was 100% in the wrong and essentially did a bad thing?

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AAAAARRGHHHH

>>148826962
Nothing. He wants to stay in his tube which is filled with tea.

>>148832452
Unless it's leading to a "Touma uses godhood to remake the world out of guilt because the world went to shit and some of it is his fault" scenario I don't see him winning that conflict at all.

>>148832452
Hard to say, unlike Kyousuke we don't have a very clear grasp on Touma's mindset when it comes to those things. Actually, I don't think Touma himself does either, which is why several other characters are worried that he'll eventually stray amd become a massive threat.

>>148832746
Yeah. I could see him doing quite a few different things

>sadly agree with whoever wants to remove Will and say the clones' well being is more important

>be really upset and conflicted and ultimately do nothing because he can't figure out what he should do

>Defend her because she's someone that needs saving

>>148826962
getting a handjob from touma without disintegrating into dust

>>148826962
To create a world where snipers don't get bullied hard and can make friends.

>>148827509
Acqua is big guy.

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>>148835067

>>148835330
Lotta loyalty for a hired cutie

>>148835757
Perhaps she's wondering why someone would stuff bombs in her mouth before throwing her out of a building.

Whats her endgame?

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>>148836146

>>148836146
She wants to surpass all Kiharas. So survive I guess.

>>148836146
Find a vet apparently.

>>148836183
>>148836248
Why not just hand the doggo over to heaven canceller? Either that or find the miracle slut from the movie and have her do something.

>>148836325
The circuit that did the brain work got fucked, so even if the dog gets healed it wouldnt be Noukan and just a normal dog since its brain is basically dead

>>148837000
Noukan was cool. Honestly, I'd have been cheering for Yuiitsu wreaking vengeance on not-Touma if she didn't decide to go full retard and piss on everyone else in the process.

>>148837105
That's the best part, and she keeps getting away with it. Hopefully she'll force some characters that are tired of this shit to work with Touma.

I really hope we aren't in for a NT10 v 2.0 with characters we care about even less

I am not exactly rooting for Yuiitsu but I hope she kicks Touma's shit in pretty hard. Forcing Touma to make an immoral decision and watching people (both in universe and in the fanbase) scramble to defend him would be fun as fuck

>>148838756
I think Yuiitsu lacks something very important that would make someone root for her outside of trolling for (you)'s. I'm not sure what that something is but it's definitely there

>>148838963
This. I don't hate her (yet) but I'm certainly not on her side. I'm not dreading more Yuiitsu in NT17 but I'm not super hyped either. Even though she's caused more destruction and chaos in AC than any other villain, she still seems meh to be as far as bad guys go

>>148839377
She lacks the charisma of the other villains. She doesn't have Acqua's professionalism, Fiamma's smug, Othinus's mystery or High Priest's comedy. It's the same reason Kamisato is so dull to me.

>>148839664
Maybe that's it.

>>148839664
Mugino does the crazy bitch thing way better than her too. Basically Kamachi is slacking.

>>148839664
I miss High Priest.

I liked Kamisato's final internal monologue but as villain he was less of a big bad and more of a nuisance. Then again, that was probably what Kamachi was going for since even Touma lampshaded Kamisato's lack of final boss qualities. He'd be pretty fun as Touma's mutually reluctant buddy cop if he left his harem behind though. In regard to Yuiitsu, I just hope she forces Touma to do something crazy or dies off and sets the stage for something else.

Ayylmao or robutt, which girl will end up reigning supreme?

>>148840086
AyyLmao already won though

>>148840109
I dunno, robutt has a few screws loose and might have more meme potential.

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>>148840153
>robutt has a few screws loose

I see what you did there.

>>148840086
I want to anal probe Fran

>>148838070
>vs the raincoat mass murderer
>vs the girl that was abducted by extraterrestials

Railgun when?

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>>148842111
Spoiler pics by around Monday, full chapter not long after that. I feel like going through dream ranker again just to count up all the cameos, I've got a feeling it's not going to stop..

>>148828635
That's also part of the keikaku

If Will is a virus/demon by Aleister I guess he put her in the network during 0930 , which would maker her related to Aiwass

>>148826962
To able to laugh back at Laura
He has a long way to go

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What did they want?

>>148844194
There are several theories.

If she's a virus you're right she was probably put in Last Order's brain on 0930 AND she's likely related to AIM/Aiwass/Hyouka. I feel like Dark Matter might have played a role in her actually manifesting because she appeared soon after contact with Kakine.

If she's a demon she probably found her way into the Network during this mess in the Accelerator manga.

She might be some kind of hybrid mutation that's the result of demons, 0930 AND Dark Matter fuckery.

Who can say for sure yet? The one thing I'm positive she's not is a benign thought entity made by all of the clones naturally. She's gonna end up and be a bad thing for the Network.

>>148846856
The theory that Will-chan is an Aleister agent created by multiple things fucking with Network kinda makes sense. After all, creating a being that can phase hop naturally shouldn't be easy. And if she's important to his plan, her being the result of a lot of different fuckery would probably make her harder to erase/get rid of. Is she JUST a demon? Call someone who can handle demons. JUST a virus? Get someone who can handle it. You get the picture. But what if she's a little bit of everything?

>>148830205

But his science is magic based. Delusions + gemstone hormones (or what ever gave rise to natural ESP) + drugs = ESP kids. Sure he's got an assload of tech as well, but his core plans seem to revolve around his experimental gemstones.

But seriously why the fuck remove magic from the world? How the fuck could he have factored in NT9 and all the implications of either knowing what her plans were and if Touman would survive or even stop her. The whole end game things never made sense with how many times it could have been ruined and he'd have needed to wait for IB to respawn or something. Yes he's manually interfered a few times, but not enough to be anything but making shit up on the fly.

>>148826962
what anime is this?

>>148848237
Green Green.

>>148847294
Sure, her being a mix of elements might make her harder to deal with if the intent of her creation is malicious. Assuming she can't be WR'd or IB'd, of course. Even counting out IB and WR, I'm sure someone could could come up with something to get rid of her if it were necessary even if having multiple components slow them down. But then again slowing them down may be all that's necessary

We all seem to agree that Will-chan is fishy and not what she says she is. What do you guys think about the "Touma will become God" theory?

>>148850678
Seems legit. But if Touma turns god, and so do must Index, and they better get new costumes.

>>148832111
>>148832148
>>148832195
Kill yourself with your shitposting it stopped being funny 3 years ago

>>148848237
Mayoiga

>>148848237
Akikan.

>>148850930
Complaining makes it worse

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>>148845721
>Railgun told us that Yobou wanted to be recognized as a level 5, trying to beat Kakine to take his spot
>Kakine wanted to be recognized as the #1 and tried defeating Accelerator to do so
>You can only assume through this pattern that GiD wanted something similar from Misaki's position, but her story most likely got scrapped for that bitch from NT11 solely because GiD has nothing to do with Touma
>Sniper-chan is level 0 and just likes killing people for a living
Ded, Ded (but revived), MIA, Ded. Moral of the story is that power lust doesn't end well if you're an esper.

>>148852654
I don't think we have enough information to assume GITD wanted some kind of recognition as a Level 5 beyond "the other two in SCHOOL wanted it". To he honest it'd make sense but there's still something off about someone as logical as GITD being power lusty.

>>148852800
GITD outright admitted her limits when she said "I'm not fucking with Accelerator". She wasn't coy or flustered about it either. That doesn't really sound power lusty to me.

>>148852654
>Accelerator got a bullet to the brain for the attempted level 6 shift

>Misaka is losing her shit and constantly bleeding because of her use of the AAA

Checks out. Trying to move up in the world as an esper gets you fucked up. Why does she only get knows bleed anyway? Is her brain hemorrhaging? I'd laugh if she got brain damage and had to be hooked up to the Misaka network with Accelerator.

>>148852980
nose bleed*

>>148852654
The fact GITD wasn't mentioned in NT11 and a whole new character was introduced to be assblasted about Misaki tells me Misaki and GITD don't have much in common as far their stories . It's already been explained how GITD doesn't seem power lustful. The theory is still possible course but I'm not sure I buy it

>>148852980
We don't know why she's only getting nose bleeds yet. A few months ago it was said that maybe there's some idol theory fuckery between her and the clones and the clones are taking the damage instead? If that were the case and Kamachi is saving that reveal it would explain why neither the clones or Accelerator were mentioned in NT16. But I dunno about that theory

>>148853172
All these theories that involve the clones (Will-chan being malicious, the AAA messing with them, are there any others?) are starting to make me feel like we'll see them again soon

>>148826962
Level 7.

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>>148853048
Don't put it past Kamachi to shit out a new character with a flashy gimmick instead of using established ones. On the other hand, with the way NT11 went down I'd rather have GiD continue to be a mystery than be another Touma drone. Perhaps she'll show up in Railgun again.

>>148826962
Becoming a real girl.

>>148853636
God I am so sick of Touma drones. I want to have faith Kamachi would have done something else with her but look at NT11. It's probably for the best she remains a mystery.

>>148852903
This.

>this theory is possible gaiz because they have similar powers and have blond hair despite neither Touma nor Misaki referencing this dumb bitch
No, ya'll just a bunch of salty waifucucks buttmad that your waifu isn't appearing anymore. At best, she returned to selling her "companionship" to old fat balding men, but it's definitely prostitution amirite.

>>148845721
Tweezers, that's literally what they were after.

>>148826962
to make Touman the ultimate self-insert

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>>148854269
>this theory isn't possible gaiz because she played it smart and didn't get herself prematurely killed like the rest of her team
Gee you sure showed us. Of course she wasn't referenced, Kamachi dropped her which we already mentioned but you're too busy talking about nonexistent waifufags to read.
>>148854369
Tweezers were just a means to an end.

>>148854418
He already achieved that with Accel, maybe Hamazura by accident, both living the easy life prior to Yuiitsu's autism, while Touma is stuck in a nightmare and has to be constantly alert for that other guy with the harem.

Obviously, Aleister is gonna uplift humanity where they no would no longer need magic and gods, by giving them power of their own greater than them, becoming THE God aka Assimilation.

>>148854496
Hamazura is THE self-insert.
>literal-who thug going from zero to hero with no special snowflake powers
>has a perfect harem of loli, lewd imouto, well-endowed girlfriend, femdom onee-san, and a hot cake
>drives military grade bikes and mecha for a living
He has it made 10x over without the physical or mental scars of the other two.

>>148854496
Why would Accelerator be good self insert? He has too distinct a personality as well as development to be a good wide reaching self insert. The point of a good self insert is that they're bare bones so you can project. Accelerator is too well defined to project on unless you match up to him

>>148854561
Duh

The Aeon of Horus represents mankind's realization of personal will

>>148854868
By the "blank slate to project on" rule of self inserting, both Touma and Hamazura are good self inserts. And don't give me "Touma has a bad life". Do you really think anyone self inserting is going to bother with the bad stuff? They just want to fuck their waifu and pretend they're badass. They aren't going to consider the shit Touma goes through

>>148837304
I hope Kakine Original returns and takes back the Shoggoth/Dark Matter that's keeping Yuuitsu together.

That reminds me. Is Yuuitsu's Shoggoth actually regenerating her or just stitching her back together and without which she'd start falling apart?

I mean, Kakine is arrogant enough and edgy enough to get pissed at everyone and their dog using HIS Dark Matter without permission and start going on a crusade to reclaim what he believes is rightfully his.

>>148826962
To get Laura to permanently stop laughing at him.

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>>148855408
She's definitely got regeneration to a degree, otherwise that last attack in NT15 would have left her in a fridge. As for Kakine, I'm thinking original and beetle will fuse together again after the former hopefully learns his lesson.

>>148847399
>magic based
Gemstones are not magic, they are basically mutants. It's like X-man vs Harry Potter.

>>148856315
I wonder where Gemstones came from. And why are they so weak now

>>148855669
But what would actually make Kakine learn his lesson?

Accel turning him to paste didn't do it. Beetle 05 hijacking him didn't do it. Othinus turning him into a ball surely won't do it.

What he needs is an LCP. But in his current state that would either destroy him (if he comes back in only a single body) or simply dispel a single body (if he makes his clones), which wouldn't correct his life. Unless he somehow returns in a single 100% flesh and blood body that won't dispel on contact with IB, such that he can be corrected.

Nothing short of getting his Archetype changed or something equally drastic will put Kakine on the straight and narrow.

Kamachi fucked up somewhere. The seeds were there from OT15 (the implications that Kakine went through some bad shit, his rant that he and Accel are the same, unable to protect anyone and that they are villains with no salvation. He was definitely projecting his issues onto Accel). Even the implication that Beetle may have been who he used to be before things went to shit in his life was another seed. But the execution of Beetle's emergence in NT6 seems sloppy has hell.

Not to mention, Beetle betrayed the DM Network to be a hero, yet he couldn't even do that right.

>>148856634
>so weak
Gunha is a gemstone, and he is far from weak. As for where they came from, it's probably natural evolution. Or they are aliens.

>>148856723
I imagine Kakine had his own shitty situation like the Sister's arc where he was both the bad guy and a victim. Except no one saved Kakine from himself and those who helped him become such a monster.

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>>148856723
Yeah, the whole "Kakine's good side taking over" felt like a cop out in that fight, even though Takitsubo forcing something like that to happen was hinted at since OT15. Personally I think his shenanigans would have made for a great flashback volume in place of NT11.

Yuiitsu was the one that set him loose in NT6 and was collecting data on him, perhaps she's got something that could unfuck him. Either that or he'll have to pull what Accel and Hamazura did in WW3 and dive into the magic side (Othinus and co. messing with him should open his eyes to that).

>>148856938
Gunha is the strongest Gemstone alive currently. He's supposed to be the best example of the beings that made people so jealous magic was born. He's not that impressive when looked at from that prospective

>>148857041
Yes I would have preferred a Kakine flashback volume to the blatant waifu and shipping pandering that was NT11. It could even have gone into or at least hinted at Shoggoth.

>>148857163
Since Yuiitsu let him out and is using his power far more than she used Five Over Mental Out, a novel about Kakine would have been more relevant. The only important things in NT11 were the Five Over and Noukan. The rest of the novel could not exist and nothing of value would have been lost

>>148857278
How many FIVE_OVERs are there now? Is it just the Railgun and Mental Out ones? I don't think Equ.Dark Matter counts as a FIVE_OVER.

I just can't wait for Aleister to start BTFO Touma's allies and when all hope seems lost he'll return with complete imagine breaker looking all badass as the harem involuntarily soak their panties in anticipation of his virile seed and the crowd does that odd Gasp-screen fragment-gasp-screen fragment thing while a heavy metal/east asian remix of his main theme plays

>>148857517
Rensa 29 and the beetles are as close as you'll get for the top two, Meltdowner doesn't have one because a robot that self destructs after shooting one high power beam is worthless.

>>148857649
Go away, Will.

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RO

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BUTT

>>148857655
Closest one to Meltdowner is the one from the Railgun Silent Party filler

>>148858776
>unironically getting defeated by Saten piloting a friendship mecha for which she only read the manual the previous night
They might as well not exist.