Best Timeloop?

Groundhog Day

>>148758897
The Index one isn't even a timeloop; it's just a bunch of different worlds created by a god specifically designed to torture the MC as much as possible until he finally decides to kill himself..

Shadow Play was great. Genuinely scary for a 23 minute short.

Beautiful Dreamer is fantastic; an all-time great anime film. God tier art direction, OST, excellent animation and one of the most enthralling build ups you'll see in an anime.

Groundhog Day was good. Bill Murray is really funny, and his wit carries the film, but Andy MacDowell ruins the film, along with the whole "becoming a good person" crap.

Higurashi S2 was good. Can be a bit sluggish at times but it's definitely one of the better TV anime.

Never read Muv-Luv Alternative. I watched Total Eclipse (not a timeloop) and it was pretty bad.

Re:Zero is trash.

Madoka is very average. Wouldn't have nearly the same popularity without the magical girl factor.

Never read All You Need Is Kill.

Steins;Gate is ok. Good fun time travel story, but extremely overrated.

Endless 8 is dead set garbage.

Hakomaria is fantastic. Some of the most unique and well written characters in a japanese story.

Never read Index, but I'd guess it's mediocre.

I dropped Tatami Galaxy at episode 1. Stylistic my arse, I'm not going to engage myself in an anime that plays the first episode in fast motion. Pretentious.

Majora's Mask is a fantastic game. Pushed the boundaries; there was nothing like it at the time.

What?

Never saw The Girl Who Leapt Through Time

What?

Haven't read it but Zero no Maria seems to be the one with most suffering.
As for good... pick your poison, i liked Steins;Gate a lot

Endless Eight

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Can you call it suffering when you lost your sanity?

>>148759047
unironically this

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>>148759947
This chapter was pretty edgy.

>>148759947
>>148760025
What is this again?
Is this the story with the boy who becomes crippled and lose all sanity at the end?

>>148760248
It's about guy who values his everyday life.

>>148760025
That entire thing was just edgemeister/10.

Also that part with the dog.

Only watched Steins;Gate from this, Am I missing out on anything?

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>no time paradogs

>>148760248
It's Utsuro no Hako

NT9 or Qualia

There's no such thing. They're all shit.

>>148760383
I know this is /a/, but how have you not seen seen Groundhog Day? I mean goddamn.

>>148761086
I don't watch comedyshit, sorry

>>148761086
No? should I of?

>>148761276
Everyone should watch that film at least once.

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>>148759839
> Hakomaria is fantastic
> Head banging
> Loops because of a fucking bitch that refused to accept reality all because of love and it took thousands of fucking loops.
> Chainsaw massacre
> Inconsistent fucking characters especially Maria.
> Crazy insanity loco
>Bullshit Daiya that did all that shit for LOVE FOR KOKONE.
> THE POWER OF FEELINGS BREAKING REALITY!!!
Wow anons, real QUALITY LN.

>>148759839
>dropping tatami
Fucking pleb

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>>148761353
I'll trust you then anon.

>>148761498
>watching tatami
Fucking fag

>>148761419
That's one idiotic way of analyzing it. Come back when you have something thoughtful to say.

>>148761498
Maybe I'm missing something good, but that first episode was rubbish.

>>148761103
Careful you might cut someone with that edge boyo

>>148761538
It's objectively in the top 50 anime ever created you just have shit taste.

>>148759839
>"becoming a good person" crap
Ah, I see your opinions are worthless

>>148761566
You're missing out, you have to see it through to the end.

>>148761570
I don't like comedies, sorry.
i only watch black and white french film from the late 50s and early 60s.
fun isn't allowed.

>>148761666
>missing all the best Rivette films on purpose
gosh anon you're such a loser

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>>148761566
> Thoughtful to say
Here's my response: QUALITY LN my friend! Here's your (You).

>>148761744
sorry new wave cinema is too fun

>>148761621
No less worthwhile than yours, at least I was prepared to elaborate a bit on mine. You're as dumb as they come sadly.

inb4 the same 3 or 4 Beautiful Dreamer webms

>>148761815
It doesn't matter if you elaborate on them, you have accepted wrongness at your core.

>>148761903
Whatever helps you sleep at night, moron.

>>148760025
Entire series was edgy. It was still fun with an MC going batshit insane, though I couldn't believe in the end it everybody alive got a happy end. That being said it got really fucking weird when MC started going insane yandere.

>>148758897
I can tell you Haruhi's was the most painful for the viewer.

seriously I almost dropped it 7 eps into Endless Eight.

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>>148758897

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>>148761832
Oh you wanted them? Here you go.

Hakomaria

>>148761794
Kill yourself

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Excluding popular titles, ever17 and qualia are unusually good. Read them.

>>148758897
HakoMari played with the timeloop formula like nothing else so props to it for that
Higurashi is probably my favorite because there's no relateable character until Minagoroshi-hen, it makes the paranoia more intense when you know stuff the protaganist doesn't
The anime was a terrible adaptation and I will never not be mad

>>148765081
>ever17
Its bad

>>148758897
Steins;Gate0

>>148767108
Overrated rubbish.

>>148758897
Time isnt looping in some of them

>>148758897
>no Umineko

>>148758897
It definitely isn't Re:Zero, that's for sure

>>148767891
can we have a single thread without mentioning re-zero
god damn this is worse than Umaru, it's just fucking everywhere

I really, really fucking how S;G resolved the whole thing.

Operation Skuld was fucking masterfully executed.

>>148767922
Re:Zero is a topic of this thread dingus

>>148767744
Are you sure?

kurozuka is also a time loop

>>148758897

This has to be one of my favorite tropes if not my favorite, too bad everything in that pic is either trash or i've seen it already.

Is there any other time looping manga/anime/LN worth mentioning?

>>148768540
Ultra Heaven, if it counts.

anyone know if root double the vn has any time loop things? its sorta related to 999 and ever17

>>148758897
Where is Umineko?

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Im still fucking angry

>>148769548
which anime?

>>148769699
Are you mentally retarded?

>>148761353
downloading right now, it better not be shit

>>148768512
he isnt in a timeloop you fag

>>148769699
erased

>>148769816
Yes he is.

>>148769852
prove me wrong

>>148759839
>along with the whole "becoming a good person" crap
Please elaborate. It is because it's an arbitrary goal imposed by the plot and not an objective Phil could've discovered on his own?

NT9 does not qualify, mainly because the narrative presents it as snippets of Othinus's eventful life and not a single key event that needs to have a perfect ending.

>>148769844
Spoon feed him more faggot and while you´re on it, change his diaper too

>>148758897
mother of learning

>>148759839
>never read All You Need is Kill
I liked it, and I thought the movie was nice

>>148770061
rude. we are all friend here, calm down, my friend.

Which time loop stories best touch on the unique sufferings of 6-7 billion people?

>>148770091
>Zorian, a mage in training, only wanted to finish his education in peace. Unfortunately, the lich leading the assault on his city's festival had other plans. Now repeatedly living the same month, he struggles to find answers. 'Groundhog's day' style setup in a fantasy world.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/2961893/1/Mother-of-Learning

Hmm...sounds interesting.

>>148770200
Higurashi.
Rika just wants to live and be happy.

>>148770061
se ger ed club

Groundhog Day is my favourite anime.

>>148770133
Im not your friend kiddo, i hope you get aids

>>148770447
This has nothing to do with muh secret club, he could figured it out easily

>>148770545
I'm not your kiddo, my dude. I hope you have a beautiful life.

I watched Punchline recently

>>148770545
Just report man

12:01 is the Steamboat Willie of shit plot gimmicks

>>148770688

>>148770688
Go away

Groundhog Day

>>148758897

I liked Re Zero. Fight me faggots.

>>148773244

>>148769929
It's just a really cheesy and hollywood style conclusion. It was never pre-established and the writers just wanted a very simple catharsis.

A stark contrast to the Twilight Zone, where the bad end would occur several times. That show had balls and did things differently.

>>148758897
Muv luv have the most well done suffering but I go with qualia manga, the amount of butthurt it generated in pseudo intellectual crowd can't be ignored.

>>148761353
I just finished it and I hated it.
At least it was realistic not like re:zero with the way he uses his repeat but holy shit the classical "be a better person" is so retarded.

Punchline

>>148758897
Unironically Re:Zero which was also AOTS and the best animu in the last 5 years.

>>148759839
>Hakomaria is fantastic
>I dropped Tatami Galaxy at episode 1
This nigga..

>>148770545
>he could figured it out easily
how exactly?
It's not like that's something you can image search and "man in coma" is just a tad too vague to find it

>>148760025
>>148759947
Can someone explain me how the fuck this gets praised so much?

>>148780841
Its mediocre and nobody cares about it in nipland, only on MAL.

Re:Zero is the only time travel anime without plot holes.

>>148758897
>no endless eight
You had one job anon.

>>148781785
Are you blind?

>>148781816
Yes, but that was a pic for ants.

>>148775239
>>148759947
>>148760025
>>148760942
>>148761419
>>148763030
>>148766526

Man I was trying to marathon the series, but the end of vol.5/beginning of vol. 6 had too much soul-crushing despair. I'm taking a break from it before I get anymore depressed

[spoilers]Fuck Daiya btw, kokone and Haruaki are wasted on him[/spoilers]

>most suffering
e8
Well, more like its sadder because Nagato was an emotionless robot.

>>148781861
Finish the series, you will feel better.

>>148760025

Seems legit though.

>spend the first few loops learning your boundary, when/where the reset happens
>spend a while learning, reading, entertainment to catch up on
>eventually all that shit was so long ago you're starting to forget things, the loops not perfectly helping you, what you learn may not wind up as muscle memory or reviewed enough so it's all forgotten
>start to experiment out of the sheer boredom of your loop, start out all and escalate with what you can get away with and eventually what you'd normally get punished/life ruined for

It's why I think time loops longer than say ~1 year total would result in an utterly different personality after it ends. Worse if their loop period is only a day or so, there's only so much variation to be had in that. If you're going to do time loops make it short no more than a few weeks total.

>>148759047
>stuck in one town for 30 years without a single warm shower
Yeah.

>>148769981

I'm also up to this volume, is touma broken as fuck after this? Like complete personality shift? Or does the endless time loops just wash over him like nothing happened beyond beating the god and making it his latest pet? Bullshit levels of mental fortitude, hell why would the final timeline she reverts to be 'the same' as the one they started from, upside-down-man's plans completely intact and all.

>>148782586
For Kazuki it was about 1000 years, so that he got better so fast is kind of bullshit. I wanted happy ending for Kazuki and Maria so I was ok with that.

>>148758897
Bites The Dust

>>148781896

She/aliens are the only ones that can see it happen /because/. Gives context for what happens later, but it's not really an issue the audience connects with like other works since the one stuck in the loop is near lifeless observation robot. She'd probably have kept going with it forever.

>>148782812
Just stop

>>148780841
Because it has some of the most unique and intense characters you'll ever see in a japanese story. Sorry they were beyond your level of appreciation, you can go back to your waifubait rubbish now.

Endless Eight was terrible.

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>>148759839
>Never read Muv-Luv Alternative. I watched Total Eclipse (not a timeloop) and it was pretty bad.

>Never read Tsukihime...but I saw the anime.

>>148785423
I want to say Muv Luv wins. Not only as a whole is shit depressing, but the pure, unadulterated suffering of the time loop man is bonkers. And that's before you realize they did a whole still going story set on what happened to the world in that bad end.

So, re;zero is the new sao, apparently.

>>148759917
This.

Endless Eight is unironically one of the best time loop stories (if not the best) in which it provided a different view -- the supporting character's -- Endless Eight is one of the examples of a time loop story that the viewer can relate their emotions alongside with the characters of the show. It also made a reason to why Nagato acted in the Disappearance of Suzumiya Haruhi in which is an isekai itself but still a masterpiece.

>>148758897
whats that one to the right most beneath rezero?

>>148785875
index?

I disliked Higurashi and SG yet liked Re zero. Am I just hypocritical?

>>148785965
You are just pathetic

>>148758897
Where is Noein?

>>148785965
Same. I think it's because Re:zero has the best waifus and less plot holes than the other 2. Steins Gate was overrated trash. Higurashi and Madoka have that insufferable Moeblob style going on that is a pain to my eyes.

>>148763670
>That scene when they are using a stargate for putting practice
I loved that episode.

>>148785965
You have shit taste.

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>he doesnt rate cross channel

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Divine Cybermancy has the best time loop

>>148785965
No, just a blithering idiot.

>>148786361
Who would? It's dead set garbage.

>>148758897

>dont recognize murasaki no qualia or ever 17

How dare you even think of making a response list you pleb

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>>148786489
Remove jians

>>148766529
its not bad if you play it blind

>>148786684
it had good writing

>>148758897
Is tatami galaxy not actually a loop though? Since all of the iterations in each episode are parallel possibilities and thus have different watashi in them.

>>148786881
Is that all morons like you can say? Do you even know what 'good writing' is?

>>148758897
I do only know Stein's:Gate, Higurashi, Madoka and Re:Zero of these.
Liked them all, but I enjoyed Re:Zero and Stein's:Gate the most.
Best depiction of suffering goes to Re:Zero, most suffering overall to Higurashi for, if I remember it right, several years of suffering the same shit over and over again.

Wanna recommend me another one, that I might like/should have seen?

>>148758897
Time Braid.

>>148787013
Whoa, calm down there friendo.

blazblue calamity trigger hands down

>>148787016
>several years
100 for rika
1000 years of suffering for Hanyuu, not because of time loops but because nobody could recognize her unless they were at stage 5

>>148767766
>>148769477
Nobody cares anymore about that shit.

>>148787211
Not a time loop, stupid retard.

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Pic related suffered the most, 1100+ years in the same day.

>>148786769
>>>/v/

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>>148786489
I will keep posting EYE in these threads till they finally make an EYE anime of some kind.

>>148761566
Tatami's speed is tonally consistent with the content of the show. Although, I think that the series is only a bit above average until the last few episodes.

>>148760571
______:D______

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>>148790125
Yeah that tone is really important, who cares about engaging the audience? Tone over story, am I right or am I right or am I right?

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Is there a more perfect film than groundhog day?

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Hay una película más perfecto que el día de la marmota ?

>>148790452
Build wall.

Hakomaria

Re:zero was terrible.

Hakomari is bullshit.

>>148758897
Not even a top Zelda game, just gets bonus points for being un-Zelda like.

>>148786361
How could you not rate it if you've seen it? That's like saying you have no opinion at all. With pretty much everything you've seen, it's just a matter of how high or low you rate it.

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Bernkastel-chan is a good girl! She did nothing wrong.

>>148758897
hakomari vol 7 made me tear up at the end for whatever reason

>>148796479
Kill yourself.

Does the movie Primer count. One of my favorites for a number of reasons.

I enjoyed Hakomari, but I have to agree that the characters were not particularly consistent. Having to wait for vol 7 was terrible, and while I'm glad it ended the series in the way it did, it seemed like a jump from vol 6.

I've been saving Tatami Galaxy for a long, long time. I've decided to finally watch it.

>>148796880
>he liked umineko

>>148789102
Something like that builds character. The cream always rises to the top, as they say.

>>148789102
Not to mention, he had to keep killing himself every loop if he wanted to remember his memories, be it by falling off a building, stabbing himself or something else. He remembers the pain every time

Also when he realizes what he needs to do to escape the loop: start killing people, which erases their existence from future loops. This means killing all his friends, everyone in his school, and eventually, everyone in his town. Eventually, he's in a complete desolate, lifeless town repeating the same day, and he's completely lost his mind.

I don't think anyone comes close as far as suffering goes.

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>>148800882
sauce for that image?
If that's days that would be completely impossible. That's over 4 thousand million years.

Steins Gate is shit

Madoka is even bigger shit

The Tatami Galaxy got stale by the 3rd episode when you realized it's just "what if" stories from the beta protagonist

Re zero's anime was average and got shat on by White Fox wanting to pander to Emiliafags and not introducing more stuff from the LN and WN so I will leave it as is

Higurashi peaked early and was shit by the end. Not to mention it was too edgy

Majoras Mask was great

Never watched the others

>>148801130
Baldr Sky.

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>>148801245
>it was too edgy
yah I get you there

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>completely impossible
Stack overflow.

>>148801374
oh jesus christ
HakoMari you can at least get a grasp on.
that's just unimaginable

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>>148789102
>the most

This faggot suffers anywhere from millions to hundreds of millions of years in NT9.

>>148801446
Just literally eternal suffering.

>>148765081
Is it really a loop when its just her jumping between realities un Qualia?

Is Higurashi good? Im getting mix signals from this thread.

>>148802171
VN is pretty great but can be a little bit edgy and is rather long
anime is decent but doesn't really have the atmosphere of the VN

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Fucker was so crazy he got brain damage

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>>148801945
Sounds interesting, is it worth reading?

Also I really liked All you need is kill. Whenever the guy dies the loop restarts, it is unclear how much time he spend in the loop but by the looks of it wasn't as much as some of the characters in this thread.

Anyway, eventually he finds out there is a specific entity that he needs to kill but circumstances forced him to literally repeat the same shit over and over again until basically the end of the loop and when he finally gets the kill it just gets worst.

>>148802171
Yeah, read the VN. It's quite the wild ride.

>>148802309
Its implied he spent more or less a year inside of it with Rita spending an even greater time thanks to her multiple loops, that was why she wanted out, not because of bullshit extra antenna she talked and since the author is writing a sequel we will soon see the same shit happen to the MC

>>148802309
>Sounds interesting, is it worth reading?
Index is basically one guy turning every single idea he has into a LN
It has it's ups and downs but overall it's pretty entertaining if dumb

>>148802438
I know Index, I read up-to volume 15 or something, I dropped it when the giant space ship was summoned during the third world war but Touma trapped in a time-loop sounds appealing.

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>>148802171
This is coming from a huge fanboy. But the visual novel is a masterpiece of horror, mystery and hotblooded heart. It's premised on giving you comedic SoL fun scenes and suddenly and unexpectedly ripping you away from that in horror scenes. And it does a real good job of that, making a rollercoaster of emotions and daring you to solve the mystery.

I think the contention usually comes from anime only people. The anime is a very poor representation of Higurashi, it makes it seem like lots of gore for the sake of it. You lose both the mystery and the subtle horror.
For example the change to horror comes in the anime like episode 2 or 3 or so. Pretty much right away. The VN makes you get to know the MC's friends over hours and hours before they turn suddenly crazy, making you think what the hell happened? In the anime you just think, oh well they're crazy I guess.

>>148802514
I haven't got up to that volume myself but I hear it's a highlight of the series

>>148802309
The novel itself was good, but I was disappointed about how Kamachi handles Touma in the following novels after the time loop. Millions of years of torture should completely fuck with a person, but he comes out of it with some minor trauma. Kind of expected some more character development after that whole ordeal.

>>148802514
Sounds like you dropped it when it was getting to the best parts. Volumes 14-22 are the best parts of the series, only the time loop volume you're asking about (NT9) manages to be on par with them. The only problem about NT9 was how the following volumes handled the effects of it.

>>148802650
It was another one of those times where it feels like Kamachi was testing an idea in Index. Later in the year NT9 and 10 were published he started Blood Sign which I feel worked better with the human vs god thing since it was able to use it as a core concept rather than an event that happened after 30 volumes.

>>148758897
Haruhi is objectively the best. There are several layers and everything made perfect sense, no plot hole whatsover.
Most suffering: Higurashi for Rika.

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>>148758897
This episode.

>>148761012
nice opinion

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>>148801945
It is kind of hard to gauge his suffering because he spent billions of years basically in "bring it on, bitch" mode and brushed off shit that would break anyone else. Sure he felt pressure from the other worlds but the only thing that really got him was the final world. His entire rant was based off that world too, and not all the other shit he was put through. The fucker is a rock.

It's been a decade since I last enjoyed new video games, but to this day I can still go back to Majora's Mask and still appreciate it for what a fucking great game it is. For being a very old video game, the characters around you and their reactions towards their inevitable doom feel both so real and unsettling.

Truly a masterpiece.

>>148803344
How does it end?

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>>148803578
After an uncountable numbers of deaths after he breaks and picks himself back up (with help), he challenges her straight up. He slowly wears down her psyche and basically becomes a massive headache since he won't break. For the final death, she kills him, saying she won't bring him back this time and will just find Imagine Breaker in whatever it goes to next. In the end, Touma realizes her goal was to return to the original world, since a god can add "filters", but can't remove them, so any attempts to return thing to how they were will still be not quite right. Though, in the end it turns out her reason for wanting to return was to find somebody who understood her, and she realizes she inadvertently created that in Touma; another being wandering through an infinite number of hells just trying to return home. She then uses IB when Touma dies and tells her to use it as she wishes to return Touma's world as it was and Touma saves her when she intends to die. Cue NT10 boss rush.
I left a fair bit out since I'm terrible at explaining but that should suffice for now.

>>148803768
why would you save that bitch though
fucking white knight

>>148802650
This is why Kazuki Hoshino suffered more, because the suffering was believable and well written.

>>148803832
You share the same opinion as the other 6 billion people that Touma has to fight.

>>148803832
Because this is a fucking LN, they are all about building a harem so you can self insert

>>148803832
He wanted her to be properly judged, not killed in a frenzy, his entire goal of NT10 was to allow her the chance of a trial and to spend her time in prison rather than just being killed.

>>148803921
This.

It's why Index will always be crap.

>>148803927
you can only white knight this long until you just go "fuck it it's okay both ways let the bitch die"

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What did you think of Groundhog Day?

>>148803963
How far is it before white knight gives way to something else? To take a quote from another of the author's novels.
>When you weigh what is “right” against what is “kind”, you will mercilessly choose “kind” every time. In the extreme, you have proven you are willing to destroy the social system that supports seven billion people if it will let you save the one person before your eyes.

>>148758897
I reject your image and nominate my own.

Punchline was actually a really good time loop story.

>>148804048
Yeah, I disliked Umineko's second half for the same kind of reason.

>>148803927
I still think he was spouting bullshit again and is just using her as an emotional crutch. After spending literally billions of years with someone I can imagine they'd get pretty attached to that person, situation be damned. Even Ollerus was afraid of what Touma would do if they killed her.

>>148759047
First post best post.

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I love time loop stories.

>>148785579
Problem is that all that Muv Luv Alternative potential gets wasted by the whole ending sequence the final hive attack, the dumb suicides, Takeru having no character progression, happy ending where everyone comes back to life.

>>148786361
Only good part in that whole mess was when he convinced the guy the go back. It's heavily implied that he spent a quite a few years/decades looping and trying to redo everything over and over again until he gets everything just right for each person. And then it's the guy's turn, MC just tells him where to go and the guy's like "ya ok sure". Great bit of comedy, I really liked it. But the rest was average or bad.

>>148786815
Bit too repetitive.

>>148801245
Didn't watch the Higurashi anime but I read a bunch of the chapters from the VN. Starts off fairly strongly, gets a bit repetitive and then the info dump chapter and power of friendship ending/chapter completely murdered the story.

Anyways, the only time loop story that I found to have a great story and no shitty plothole aside from Groundhog Day was the Dragonlance Legends triology. Only loops once, but it's a damn good one.

>inb4 dragonlance not anime

It's as much of an anime as Tsukihime is an anime.

>>148804931
No you don't.

>>148759839
Great taste. MuvLuv Alternative is fantastic and much better executed than Total Eclipse. 3rd to last is Ever17, another super popular VN by the author of Zero Escape.

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>>148805646
>happy ending where everyone comes back to life
You know that was the whole point of the story right? The getting back to the extra universe. It didn't bring them back to life, it's just his home universe. The people are the "same" but they're really actually different. It's not a particularly happy ending.

The point of the last Higurashi episodes was literally to murder the story and spill it's guts so you're right there. I don't see how Minagoroshi is an info dump other than the meta prologue. It's all about saving Satoko and seeing what would happen when every "major event" is in one world. The whole thing with the power of friendship was the entire point of the story. All the low points of the earlier scenarios led to the final high point. It's ridiculous because it has to be, it's the only way out of the impossible challenge Rika was face with. The premise is "now that we know everything about the problem, how in the world can the hero possibly overcome the problem".

I don't think you understood the stories.

Don't you know these things accept no consequence? There's no responsibility so the act of time reset or time travel is essentially prevents the act of moving on.

>>148802309
>it is unclear how much time he spend in the loop but by the looks of it wasn't as much as some of the characters in this thread.
It's directly stated how many times he loops (160 iirc). After the first couple loops he started keeping track. Given that we know each loop is roughly a day and a half (Exact length varies depending on how long he lasts during the battle) he spends a bit less than a year. You are right about it not being long compared to most time loop stories though.

>>148802214
Sauce? Reverse search, iqdb and wait aren't giving me anything.

>>148802214
>I start killing myself over a haircut
This is bad. This is refusal of consequences over the smallest things.

OK CAMPERS RISE AND SHINE AND DON'T FORGET YOUR BOOTTIES, BECAUSE IT IS COLD OUT THERE

>>148807850
IT'S COOOOOOOLD

>>148807064
Everyone comes back life from bunny loli's POV. She escapes from the other universe and gets to live a happy and carefree life with all the people who had died. Been a while since I read it but from memory it's basically Takeru gets a reset and the bunny just psychics everyone from not-eaten-by-beta-Takeru's world to be together so she can be happy. Also a happy ending from Takeru's POV since has no memory of the time loop.

Also, power of friendship was never the point of the story. It's shown time and time again that power of friendship doesn't work, best example being when the guy goes crazy and the girls try to hug him and comfort him and he just kills them anyways. The point is driven home is every? chapter: friendship don't mean shit, have some despair instead. And then the last chapter is just a complete shift in tone and atmosphere and you know what? Fuck the story, fuck the characters, fuck the world, fuck the buildup and fuck everything: let's solve everything by second dumbest cliche in story telling: friendship triumphs over evil! BTW worst cliche is the it was all a dream ending.

>>148758897
>No Edge of Tomorrow

Shit image.

>>148758897
>No Zero Escape.

>>148809024
Good.

>>148808460
But it's right there second row.

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>>148808417
Rather than making any legitimate points you just sound like you're being a whiny baby to me. A silly goat that refuses to see the heart of the story.

The whole point was that K1 never used the "power of friendship". It was because he DIDN'T trust Rena and Mion that he beat them to death. Not trusting anybody, thinking everyone is a culprit just drove him into corner after corner. It's about trust. Nothing was fucked you idiot. I don't know why you're getting so emotional. The characters stayed true to themselves, the mystery buildup was payed off by the XYZ theory. Fuck the world? What the hell are you talking about? It was the exact same world, presented in different ways every time. Matsuribayashi just took the premise of a good end. It wasn't solved by just some cliche. If you remember any of it at all, each character had to pull their weight in their own way. It all made sense and tied together. It's not like anybody "powered up" with friendship magic. The powers were in them all along, they just had to be put on the same team.
I guess I just can't say anything to you who is getting upset over the theme of all things.
>NOOO trusting your friends shouldn't do anything! Everyone should be evil and out to get you!
Christ man, re-read the story maybe. You only didn't enjoy it because you didn't understand a godamn thing.

You're completely wrong about MuvLuv, Kasumi doesn't physic anyone anywhere. Everyone stays dead. Takeru gets to go back because Sumika, the anchor to the Alt world herself dies. And yes he forgets, but it's still buried deep in his memories. The Alt world still exists regardless of if Takeru remembers it.

>>148810947
Adding onto that, about the tone.
The tone of the story goes in wildly different directions, from slice of life, to horror, to slice of life within the story arcs. But on the larger scale, the entire story does this too. But it goes from rock-bottom to the top. It goes from horror to hotblooded action. It's a conscious change, a metamorphosis that the story goes through.

The "structure" of the world also remains exactly the same. X-Y-Z always happens. That's the gameboard that Rika is forced to play on. That gameboard goes through different tonal shifts and becomes more and more hopeful as you figure out more about the world's structure.

I think you're trying to claim that the "power of friendship" is a deus ex machina. It is not. From right when it's introduced, in Tsumihoroboshi it STILL doesn't mean a thing because everyone died anyways. Because you still didn't know about the structure of the world. And in Minagoroshi remember how ALL THE HEROES get SHOT in the end and Rika gets torn apart. It's still a bad end because you don't comprehend the world. Right at the end you do, and that's what brings you to Matsuribayashi. Where you pick and choose the little details that will bring Rika to her good ending.

>>148810947
Kill yourself

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>>148785965
Back to plebbit with you or just kill yourself.

>>148812019
What is your problem?

>>148812644
Just a case of Higurashi/Seacats super autism.
I didn't mean to bully, sorry.

Bill Murray

>>148761538

Here is your (you), now leave

Re:Zero has the best writing out of all. Maybe groundhog day in 2nd place.

>>148813678
>Re:Zero has the best writing out of all
For idiots like yourself, sure.

>>148813857
>taking the bait
I think you are the idiot, not him

4chan has the best timeloop. I keep seeing the same threads everyday.