I want to join the Human Fleet!
Great one episode anime.
>>148701390
the space squids being people was among the stupidest shit urobutcher has come up with
>>148701390
We still don't know anything about MC's space friend with benefits, do we?
REMOVE HIDEAUZE
Space squid did nothing wrong.
>>148701390
Who is this qt.
They really should have shown more space battles for this show.
>>148701390
Perfect small budding tits is perfect.
>>148701822
His designated life/breeding partner that was supposed to show up later but didn't.
>>148701390
man imagine the SJWs if co-ed bathing was implemented
>>148701904
If anything that's their endgame. the logic behind separate bathrooms/showers at all is blown up.
>>148701844
And she shaves apparently. Space shaving.
>>148702042
>implying they are not engineered to have a delicious loli pussy.
>>148701976
>If anything that's their endgame.
in theory, but i doubt it
>>148702743
Super space traveling can't come soon enough
>>148702743
If so, the guy was the one with an engineered body, given a muscular twink body with a huge dong to preserve species wherever he goes.
>>148701976
Is like the starship troopers.
>>148701856
Interesting. Where i can find some info.
>>148703950
>>148704321
I don't even mind, if lesbians can bathe with women and gays can bathe with guys and trannies can go to whatever bathroom they choose? what's the argument against guys bathing with girls? As long as people can behave respetcfully there's no argument that can be made that can't be shut down as discrimination.
>>148704421
You know SJWs, man rape women just by looking at them.
>>148704509
I raped a couple people with my eyes just yesterday.
>>148701691
She probably can't even bellydance...
>>148704767
To be fair, neither do the other girls
>>148704421
I imagine that bathing with a guy who has a boner is probably distressing.
>>148704421
>there's no argument that can be made that can't be shut down as discrimination
SJW driscrminate people without real argument, not real equality
>>148705011
That's a perfectly natural occurrence that can happen for perfectly innocent reasons in a healthy male; maybe they should mind their own business rather than lustfully look at a guy's boner. they could be arrested for harassment.
>>148705046
Just like us then. Can this SJW shit be kept at >>>/pol/ or >>>/v/?
I'd prefer to discuss artfully genetically engineered loli pussies.
>>148701390
Excellent, Service guarantees citizenship!
>>148701594
It's exactly the same as everything else he's come up with.
>>148705105
I bet would be more distressing realizing the dude showering next to them is totally limp and not giving a glance to them.
>>148705227
>Implying SJWs never tried to go against anime
/a/ can become the next /v/ anytime.
>>148705239
But the witches were people all along! Weren't you surprised!
>>148705263
>/a/ can become the next /v/ anytime.
/v/ become /b/ 2.0 when people preferred discussing video game unrelated shit.
Then /v/ turned real shit when they decided to go on a crusade.
I'd rather remain /a/ - anime and manga.
>>148705298
That's /a/ - animu & mango to you, commie.
>>148705361
I wish it were turned back to that, or that the /a/ were turned upside down again.
But what are the objective benefits of that?
>>148701570
Shitaste
>>148705270
So the next Godzilla will be a human after all
I really liked this show. I'm kind of sad it got butchered.
That feeling you'll never be part of an elite race
Why is Hahaharu so based?
>>148706897
You are part of the human race that has all but annihilated all natural competitors for dominance on Earth.
The only ones left in the race are rats and cockroaches. And let's face it, they're only left there because they don't post any real threat.
Also, cockroach girls are cute.
>>148707023
>forgetting the Ants
Mega-Colony for the win, anon.
>>148706589
>Implying Anno didn't already do that.
>>148704421
We already have nude beaches and some places like Japan have mixed bathing facilities.
Not to mention, some colleges also have co-ed dorms where showers and toilets might be shared.
And it won't be the SJWs that would be raging; but the religiously devout, saying we're degrading back to the time of sodom and gomorrah. Not that we haven't already in places like Las Vegas, where if you take the backroads and paths, you'd find drunken people having sex in the alleys in plain sight.
>>148704312
Don't forget that the Space Force allowed their best soldiers to return to the colony fleet to reproduce before sending them back to the front.
Saya > Amy > Melty
That's a fact.
>>148701856
That's inaccurate. She designated herself as that and has been saying that since the start as she was his childhood friend but he was too stupid to notice anything.
Now she's probably dead, the book that was supposed to have her backstory seems like it's cancelled, and the person she loved didn't even bother mourning her before moving on to some hippie girls.
The Abh are still the best at love and reproduction in space.
I wish it would have stayed a space opera.
>>148708797
I'm legit curious what life is like for the people on Avalon that don't spend every waking moment either fighting or preparing for the next fight.
>>148712426
I'm one of the few people that is really happy with the show we got. It's a simple story but well told and with characters I enjoyed. There isn't anything wrong with doing a staple story well. Too many animes get so wrapped up in their own special snowflake mythology that they completely drop the ball by the end in a clusterfuck of bad writing.
Gargantia set up a story and fulfilled those promises it made to the viewer. The foundation of storytelling that anime often forgets.
>>148712603
Well, since they're all fucking dead, not too comfortable, that's for sure.
>>148701844
A true breast lover etc.
>>148709583
>The doujins where Saya steals Ledo away from Amy will never be scanned.
There are about 3-5 of those by the way. Gets me every time.
>>148713156
Everyone has to contribute to the war, but not everyone has the same deal as Ledo did. They can't. Ledo was put on ice and brainwashed between missions, he was nothing more than a weapon to point at the enemy. The rest of the alliance outside the rank and file pilots CANT work like that, or the war effort would collapse.
>>148713468
I feel you. I like fapping to this series.
>>148713565
Yep. Might go exploring for download links if I get the time.
>>148713544
It's implied that all males have to survive combat in order to gain a vacation in avalon and breeding privilegies.
I never read other materials, so I don't know, but there must be some sort of administrative elite running Avalon.
Any anons knowledgeable about this series?
>>148713692
It's stated that the soldiers have to survive combat before being allowed to breed. This ensures survival of the fittest, only successful soldiers pass on their genes.
Presumably the other disciplines have their own criteria. It would be absurd to throw the engineers that design and build your weapons and computers into a firefight just to say you did. Their ability to fight isn't how they contribute.
>>148714004
Yep, that's what I was thinking.
Why did I enjoy this series so much? It's not even that good.
>>148713692
Avalon is long destroyed or non-existent. They simply brainwash the pilots, extract the sperma and egg cells and clone/breed new pilots.
That's my theory.
>>148715441
I think they show Avalon though. We don't really know anything about it but I'm guessing it's much more "normal" place than the military even if it follows the same kind of totalitarian structure.
>>148714004
That's pretty stupid criteria though. Combat of the scale portrayed is pretty much up to luck with lasers flying everywhere and shit. That's somewhat true even in modern warfare. It's ridiculous to assume that only survival is the deal breaker.
It's like the setting is badly written or something, who would have guessed.
>>148713544
>Ledo was put on ice and brainwashed between missions, he was nothing more than a weapon to point at the enemy
Is this some secret novel information?
>>148715616
I know you want to shit on the show, but that's a pretty God damn weak excuse to do so.
>>148715693
The opening scene before he wakes up just before entering combat.
And I need to buy a scanner and start scanning something. Not a doujinshi, sorry, but an article from a magazine.
>>148715752
I like the show. I'd like it even still if the series was more shit for the character and environment design alone. But you cannot realistically say that makes any sense.
>>148715693
Remember the very first scene of the show? That propaganda vid explaining why the squids must die for the glory of humankind?
That's called REM enlightenment time. Ledo dreams that video when in stasis in Chamber, a state he is kept in between missions if he has no other tasks.
I'm sure he gets some physical training and a chance to eat and poop after a mission, probably while Chamber is being repaired and rearmed. But after that the pilots go on ice until needed, so as not to drain resources like air and food day to day.
As you can imagine, following Ledo's story in space would have been kind of boring as hell. Space battles and sleep are 90 percent of his life.
>>148713156
Is the LN still going on?
>>148715965
>boring as hell
Wouldn't this setting mean that if you were to skip parts where Ledo sleeps (and realistically it's harder to come up with an example of fiction that explicitly portrays sleeping characters) the series would have been basically non-stop action?
So what happened in the new LN?
>>148715942
Sure it does. Pilots are still a skill based profession. Ability to navigate and keep track of complex 3d battles, tactical acumen, physical ability to survive use of neuroplus link, reflexes for evading enemy fire...
All skills that can be selected for. Features that successful pilots will have. If you can only support a limited population of pilots, you want that population to be as badass as possible. Breeding your best with your best let's battle weed out the weakest stock.
You call it luck. And there will always be an element of that. But fortune favors the skilled and prepared.
>>148706897
Girls get cute hats.
What is this anime?
>>148715965
They can dish out hundreds of flying robots but food for their pilots is a resource problem? No wonder some of them turned into slugs.
>>148716360
It would make sense if the people allowed to breed were selected from test made in safe environment, for example simulations conducted repeatedly to reveal who has the most valuable skills for a pilot. Of course, even in simulation "luck" would be a factor but by repetition the significance of luck could be ruled out.
The alliance version of this equals to throwing kids into a battlefield and nominating those who survive into leaders. In military who is fit to lead is not decided solely by real combat experience, it would be immensely retarded as modern warfare has simply too many factors to measure to be simply written off as "who lives gets the cake". Sure, with time the "weak" and unfit would die off, but that doesn't change the fact this sort of a "test" to be given permission to breed is absolutely laughable.
>>148716441
Gargantia
>>148716645
Of course it is. We never found another habitable planet after Earth. Food production is limited by the farmland we can build on space stations, which is a huge investment of resources to build because fertile soil is not naturally occurring in space. The dirt on Mars, for example, is toxic as shit AND radioactive.
Mass production of robots just needs metal. Space is full of metal floating around asking to be mined. Elon Musk has his sights set on an asteroid in our system that is the size of New York City and is 70 percent platinum.
>>148716757
The test most accurate of combat is combat. They get repeated trails of that plenty. The safe tests you propose would be useless and inaccurate at worst, redundant at best. They already get what they want out of the military service method, AND that doubles as a carrot to bait in front of the pilots. A goal to work towards.
Your leadership argument is correct in that it would be retarded, but irrelevant because we have no reason to believe that is how it works. It's not related to anything, even as an analogy.
>>148708766
Funny how it all comes full-circle, ain't it?
>>148716107
Yeah, but action with no time for character building or dialog. It's would be flashy and action packed, but after a few episodes that will get old quick because we won't have any reason to care about the outcome. It's a recipe for a bad, boring show.
>>148717154
It's a desperate loosing fight as showcased on the first episode, how many people do you think come back alive from combat missions? You have to remember Ledo effectively "died" before reproducing. Children of Kugel have been never mentioned, but he too "died". Considering these two who are portrayed as very efficient pilots just happened to "die", the pilots do not get "plenty" of combat experience as the odds for surviving are obviously desperately low. Not only this, but survival rate of real combat would be much more higher with people that actually run from combat or stick to the sidelines, this much should be obvious: allowing combat to be the only factor to decide the breeding should be the exact outcome alliance is trying to prevent. If 10 people go to combat, and the only one to live is a person that hides for the entirety of the battle, you get 100 % the genome of a coward from that battle.
>It's not related to anything, even as an analogy.
But it's exactly the right analogy. In the setting combat is used to decide who "gets the cake", even though combat is absolutely unreliable determinator.
>we have no reason to believe that is how it works
And by saying this you are actually supporting my statement: it would be so much more natural to assume that's not how the system works, but only thing we know from the anime is that it states exactly that's how the system works. By admitting the argument "is correct in that it would be retarded" you effectively admit the logic alliance uses to pick people fit for breeding is retarded.
>>148701390
>Another anime where the director goes completely against Urobuchi's original ideas
It always ends badly.
So how much content is there for Gargantia? I didn't look too much into it but I know of:
>the anime
>2 specials that came with BDs
>petit gargantia
>2 OVAs
>those short extra comics from the BD booklets
>LN
>continuation LN
>manga
>4-koma
>The Headwaters' Bellows manga
>Boy and the Giant novel
>>148717980
What were the supposedly original ideas? I've never heard anything of this.
>>148717980
Now, now, Urobuchi fucks up a lot too.
>>148718004
Some archaeological race between two groups of people.
>>148718063
He does, his second work Vjed was a giant trainwreck but I rather get no urobuchi than something where he writes an episode or two, or have the entire plot rewritten like in Expelled from paradise.
If only she'd drop the clown-makeup completely
>>148718210
>Some archaeological race between two groups of people.
That doesn't sound drastically better from what we got.
>>148717999
And when's the last time any new content came out?
>>148718248
It makes me thinks he was ripping off Ideon, it could have been interesting.
>>148717227
Anon, use your imagination. It could feature Ledo contemplating on his life and the society he lives in, and end of the episode would deliver kick-ass action.Though I guess any contemplation would actually kind of ruin what his character tried to convey.
>>148715349
World building and potential. Just like Sora no Woto. That wasn't that good either, but I remember it fondly.
>>148719473
at the end of the day it was a pretty simple choice
>>148701390
Does nobody even remember any more that her name was Myrika?
>>148716757
>this sort of a "test" to be given permission to breed is absolutely laughable.
It's how natural selection works.
>>148717602
>how many people do you think come back alive from combat missions?
How many males do you need for successful breeding lines?
>the only one to live is a person that hides for the entirety of the battle
Unless, as is common among military of all kinds, there is some kind of punishment for that.
>In the setting combat is used to decide who "gets the cake",
Who gets to procreate, but not who gets to be commander.
>it states exactly that's how the system works.
For the pilots.
>>148718700
>contemplating on his life and the society he lives in,
While he's trying to survive on the battlefield?
>>148721081
Here you have to know that the line of replies I was quoting assumes he is given time to poop between combat missions.
>>148721230
So basically a show focusing on a character sitting on the toilet?
And it's not a cute girl?
>>148721259
There have been great shows with worse premises, and you already know Alliance has cute girls that also at some point probably sit at toilet (I think?).
>>148721017
>How many males do you need for successful breeding lines?
One, which was my point pretty much in the first half of my post: if it's randomly selected male with shit genetics you get a lot of shit genetic children, which is something alliance does not want.
>>148721017
>Unless, as is common among military of all kinds, there is some kind of punishment for that.
You take this too literally. Point being, the good soldier that storms in first and tries to actively engage the enemy is more likely to be killed than a passive one. Passive soldiers are bad because they are passive.
>Who gets to procreate, but not who gets to be commander.
The trick here is you replace "gets to be the commander" with "gets to have sex". That's how, you know, analogies work.
>For the pilots.
That's a fair point and brought up somewhere in the thread previously, but to be fair I was focusing on the pilots the entire time and I don't really see how this point negates anything I've said.
>>148721582
>if it's randomly selected male with shit genetics you get a lot of shit genetic children,
That's how evolution works and has brought forth more and more efficient species.
>Point being, the good soldier that storms in first and tries to actively engage the enemy is more likely to be killed than a passive one.
That is a good thing. You call him a good soldier for rushing out of formation and getting himself killed, I call him a bad soldier for leaving his allies vulnerable and getting himself killed.
Soldiers need to work together to be efficient.
>The trick here is you replace "gets to be the commander" with "gets to have sex".
No, that's two different things.
>That's how, you know, analogies work.
That analogy doesn't work though. It's like demanding that if that's how they determine who gets to procreate it's probably also how they determine who gets to eat, and since people need to eat before they can fight it means that everybody starves and nobody gets to fight, which is evidently nonsense.
>I was focusing on the pilots
No, you weren't. You specifically spoke of the role of the commander.
>>148721369
That would be the weirdest framing device for a show ever.
Every episode starts with one of the main characters entering a bathroom and preparing to drop a deuce, oftentimes with fresh wounds or blood on their clothes that isn't theirs or some other sign of the day they have had. And, in the one place they are allowed to have some real privacy, all of their emotions come out as they think about the day they have had, making the bulk of the episode flashbacks that string together into a story, and at the end of the episode they flush and go back out to space war.
We are never shown a 'present' scene that isn't in a bathroom.
The poops of a soldier.
>>148721881
>That's how evolution works and has brought forth more and more efficient species.
Again, there's the matter of change and pure luck. It's not the kind of efficient "evolution" you are talking about if people are just randomly killed in combat deployment.
>That is a good thing. You call him a good soldier for rushing out of formation and getting himself killed, I call him a bad soldier for leaving his allies vulnerable and getting himself killed.
Soldiers need to work together to be efficient.
You take things too literally again and make a hypothetical example spin that's arguably very one-sided. Why should we assume the active soldier rushes out of formation or leaves his allies vulnerable? Why are you making these kinds of assumptions when the core of this point was that passive soldiers are more likely to survive but a functional army cannot constitute out of passive soldiers.
You are really bad at deciphering my analogy apparently because this is the second time you failed in it. So I helpfully reformatted it for you by switching "commander" with "sex" and "military" with "alliance":
>The alliance version of this equals to throwing kids into a battlefield and allowing those who survive to reproduce. In alliance who is fit to reproduce (should) not decided solely by real combat experience, it would be immensely retarded as modern warfare has simply too many factors to measure to be simply written off as "who lives gets the cake". Sure, with time the "weak" and unfit would die off, but that doesn't change the fact this sort of a "test" to be given permission to breed is absolutely laughable.
I hope this helps.
>No, you weren't. You specifically spoke of the role of the commander.
I mentioned this inside an analogy about pilots. How you somehow got this impressions out of it is beyond me. It's like you'd assume I am specifically talking about cake because I mentioned "cake" in one sentence.
I saw the OVAs last week.
It was complete garbage. Or more like incomplete garbage.
>>148722484
Fund it.
>>148721881
Why is this so hard? If you have two persons A and B and you have to decide which of them has a genome more fit for combat duty, which option do you pick?
>Option 1
Methodologically test their abilities trough life-long training and for example simulations that the highly advanced future scifi army has made practically indistinguishable from reality or
>Option 2
Throw them to space and see which one randomly dies by a lucky squid-laser.
Why is this so hard to comprehend?
>>148722530
>It's not the kind of efficient "evolution" you are talking about if people are just randomly killed in combat deployment.
But it is. Every environment where efficient individuals have a better chance of surviving (and procreating than less efficient ones works for evolution. You think the ant eater specifically targets the slowest ants? That fucker just picks whatever ants happen to be in the vicinity of his mouth. The faster ones just have a slightly better chance of getting away.
>You take things too literally again
But I am not. The kind of behavior that keeps you alive while also earning you no punishments for misdemeanor from your superior officer is the kind of behavior that is expected of you. Work as a team and stay alive. Killing enemies comes naturally once you've got those two things down.
>passive soldiers are more likely to survive
Actually passive soldiers (ie doing nothing on the battlefield) are not likely to stay alive OR get away without punishments.
>modern warfare has simply too many factors to measure to be simply written off as "who lives gets the cake".
Like what? These are grunts that are supported in complex tasks by a highly advanced AI. Their purpose is to fight.
>How you somehow got this impressions out of it is beyond me.
It's almost like commanders have some sort of relevance in a discussion of combat. What a strange thought.
>>148722774
>life-long training
Requires more soldiers than they have. Robots are cheap. Soldiers are not.
This does not mean the soldiers don't get training prior to entering battle. It just means their procreation service happens AFTER their combat service - if they survive it..
>>148722929
But you're just assuming all these things. It's portrayed how people are trained to be soldiers since childhood, as in life-long training implies, hell even Ledo is a kid. Also common sense would nominate life of a soldier is much cheaper than one of robot as material costs aside AI can function without a pilot which doesn't work the opposite way around at all.
Nothing you've said really proves how option 2 is the more efficient and logical one.
>>148723065
>Nothing you've said really proves how option 2 is the more efficient and logical one.
You need 1000 people to procreate. You have 2000.
Battles are natural selection.
Old people can't fight as well as young ones. Their reflexes and learning ability have deteriorated. Making guys first have a family and then have them join the army is inefficient.
>>148701594
Thunderbolt Fantasy was his best work for good reason.
>>148723489
>Kamen Rider Gaim was his best work for good reason
ftfy
>>148701390
Where the hell is Naruko Hanaharu?
Where the porns at?
>>148722819
>But it is.
I'm pretty sure this has already been mentioned, but even if random luck has place in evolution, the entire point of selective breeding is that they do not want to encourage that sort of evolution, which makes your point moot plus the alliance illogical.
>he kind of behavior that keeps you alive while also earning you no punishments for misdemeanor from your superior officer is the kind of behavior that is expected of you. Work as a team and stay alive. Killing enemies comes naturally once you've got those two things down.
>Actually passive soldiers (ie doing nothing on the battlefield) are not likely to stay alive OR get away without punishments.
Again, you take things too seriously. Being passive does not mean you are comatose in a combat situation. Because this is super hard for you to imagine in an abstract level I'll give you an example: there's an aggressive soldier that knows his shit and nominates himself every time combat mission needs a volunteer. Then there's a passive soldier that's really efficient at being unnoticeable and avoiding responsibility. This is reality even in our current military: maybe not always, but many times more active soldiers are also more competent fighters, in other words the kinds alliance wants, but their actions make them more likely to die in combat.
>Like what? These are grunts that are supported in complex tasks by a highly advanced AI. Their purpose is to fight.
For example pure luck, which is pretty much the premise of this discussion.
>It's almost like commanders have some sort of relevance in a discussion of combat. What a strange thought.
Being passive aggressive after failing at reading comprehension isn't something I'd spend entire sentence for.
I understand what you're saying. But then again, you must understand too that the conditions for battle to be best policy also requires a huge set of assumptions never covered in anime.
I'm going to sleep. Never post to me or my wife's son again.
>>148723592
Grapist was such a fun character. Funny how his actor had to play a gay fuccboi in the following season too IIRC.
>>148723658
>the entire point of selective breeding is that they do not want to encourage that sort of evolution,
Uh-huh?
>there's an aggressive soldier that knows his shit and nominates himself every time combat mission needs a volunteer. Then there's a passive soldier that's really efficient at being unnoticeable and avoiding responsibility
That example doesn't work. These guys get thawed up for their jobs. They don't get to volunteer for them.
Do you have any other stupid ideas you wish to share with us?
>For example pure luck,
Yeah, that's definitely a gene you should encourage in your eugenics program.
>you must understand too that the conditions for battle to be best policy also requires a huge set of assumptions never covered in anime.
What?
>Never post to me or my wife's son again.
Fuck off back to your homeboard.
>>148723871
Are you retarded? You ignore the entire dilemma of luck in evolution which is the core beef with the entire alliance system with informative "Uh-huh?" and instead of understanding "luck" is a factor in combat situation you somehow think it's a "gene".
The example works perfectly fine, in fact even better than in our society, as the entire fictional society is fueled by total war. I knew you'd attack against the specific example instead of the abstract as you really are either unable to comprehend or construct an argument against it, but at least try to refute the bare example properly.
Now I'll really go to sleep this time I swear.
>>148724207
>You ignore the entire dilemma of luck in evolution
It's not a dilemma of evolution. Evolution works.
>which is the core beef with the entire alliance system
It is?
Prove it. Why do they still have human procreation at all? That one's a gamble no matter how you do it.
>The example works perfectly fine
No, it doesn't, as I pointed out.
>I knew you'd attack against the specific example
Because it doesn't work?
>but at least try to refute the bare example properly.
Stop trolling, asshole. Either you make a point or you don't. Don't pretend to have a point when you have nothing other than shot down arguments.
>>148719473
Inmortal being>dying human crap
I pick my new inmortal body and go raping human lolis.
vest
>>148724397
Your lolis are now squids. Have fun.
>>148724397It's "immortal".
>>148724455
>Cartilage instead of bone.
Hot.
>>148724455
I said human, can't you read that?
>>148724467
sorry chump, not my native language.
>>148724580
No problem. I just wanted to help.
>>148719473
>sea hippies
You misspelled sea gypsies
>>148724858
I think you have a way too romantic view of gypsies.
>>148724329
Not that anon, but the entire discussion is supposedly about how Alliance wants to control the genome. The point of eugenics is to weed out weak genome with acts that exist outside natural selection as luck in this selection enables also passing of weaker genetics by change. That's the entire point of eugenics and a policy Alliance tries to actively enforce and the problem lies in how they enforce this with acts that do not actively weed out weak genome but give it a change to strive via change that's naturally present in every combat situation.
The example of passive/active soldiers works as in the setting total war forces everyone actively participate in war effort which means you have a selection of passive and active soldiers naturally in any given team. In order to refute this you need to assume a lot of things about the structure of Alliance which is impossible without information present.
It's really a mystery why Alliance still trusts in human procreation as it seems to conflict with the ideology of the organization. Maybe it's time to admit Alliance is retarded after all.As are you.
>>148724918
The Alliance did a shit job anyways if they ended up with someone like the MC
>>148724973
What are you talking about, Ledo is a very capable soldier. Only reason he ever even questioned Alliance teachings is because Sugitabot showed him the way.
>>148724918
>Not that anon,
Sure, let's go with that. Not that it matters.
>the problem lies in how they enforce this with acts that do not actively weed out weak genome but give it a change to strive via change that's naturally present in every combat situation.
Who knows, maybe they scan your gene material and kill bad sperm with lasers before sexual intercourse.
>you have a selection of passive and active soldiers naturally in any given team.
So?
If the passive person has no opportunity to live out his passive nature without repercussions then he's an active soldier. If he lives out his passive nature anyway he's weeded out as I have pointed out.
>it seems to conflict with the ideology of the organization.
In a fight against genetically engineered humans I think they need to make a stand for it.
>>148725089
You literally cannot defend acts of Alliance as they allow change to be a factor in their eugenics which is a violation against eugenics itself. Why are you talking about sperm? Did you even read my post as you ignore the first premise that totally destroys your base argument?Do you even know what eugenics mean?
>>148725245
>allow change to be a factor in their eugenics which is a violation against eugenics itself
No, it isn't. Eugenics is only about improving the gene pool through artificial selection. It's basically assisted evolution.
Taking evolution out of the equation without actively attacking the genome directly. is impossible anyway.
>Why are you talking about sperm?
To introduce a layer of eugenics into a system of what basically amounts to normal evolution.
>Did you even read my post as you ignore the first premise
The first paragraph you mean. No, I didn't ignore it. You are right that there is little eugenics in a system that allows people to just breed if they keep surviving for long enough.
>that totally destroys your base argument?
It does?
>Do you even know what eugenics mean?
Do you?
>>148725401
Alliance does actively attack the genome. They dispose weak and unfit as seen in Ledo's sibling. They are actively enforcing the system but in an irrational way. You still haven't explained why it's more logical to have change as a factor when trying to select best possible genome except your shady ramblings about natural evolution which is clearly something Alliance wants to have a hand in as portrayed in in-series evidence. You literally cannot defend this and it destroys everything you've ever tried to say. If you don't understand this but keep repeating the same points as you have done multiple times before you are an idiot and your genome should be removed from this board.
>>148725698
>Alliance does actively attack the genome. They dispose weak and unfit as seen in Ledo's sibling.
What does one have to do with the other?
Also, I thought the Alliance was against genetic engineering?
>You still haven't explained why it's more logical to have change as a factor when trying to select best possible genome
You mean "random change" or "uncontrolled change". Change in general is the fucking BASIS of eugenics.
I just told you that avoiding it fully is impossible through the normal means of eugenics.
>which is clearly something Alliance wants to have a hand in
Having a hand in something does not mean abolishing it.
>You literally cannot defend this
This what? You have no point. I'm beginning to suspect you have no idea what genome, eugenics or evolution mean.
>>148725860
So you are just an idiot? Okay.
>>148726054
Go to bed already.