Did they forget about this bullshit?

>>148631112
goku gon die like a bitch if he does that

>>148631171
ever heard of dragonballs ?
he is also gonna die if he doesn't does that.
Also it's toei filler NOT CANON

>>148631232
He hasn't even tried the spirit bomb yet.

Goku only did that crazy Kaioken because he couldn't use killshots on Hit -- and he's probably not even evil.

>>148631112
>>148631302
Also, Goku was styling in his fight, there's no need for more techniques.

The problem is, even though he can hold Zamas off by slapping him away. When he begins to deal with Black, he only makes him stronger. Black is Goku in the future. Traditional victory isn't assured, which is why he's turning to the Mafuba.

Just fucking read the title of ep 66, its either triple fusion or vegetto is coming back. That's it

It would be useless, because if Goku can do it then so can black.

>>148631302
I hate Spirit Bomb so much, Buu was really stronger than Goku.

why didnt they use the senzu last episode?

>>148631903
Yeah well so what. Being good allows you to use a deus ex machina attack to destroy evil.

If Goku were evil, he wouldn't be privileged enough to learn half the shit he knows. A lot of his attacks come from the afterlife, which he needed to be gifted a body to experience in the first place. He earned all his bullshit techniques.

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>tfw called the Mafuba
>tfw older brother claimed he called it instead of me

>>148631232
Goku cant be revived if he dies in trunks universe. Not even the super dragon balls in gokus timeline has the power to revive someone in another timeline.

> VEGETA: Hey Goku, your black version is crazy strong, what can we do about it ?
> GOKU: I don't know, let's ask Piccolo
> PICCOLO: I don't know, usually we go for training or the spirit bomb... oh and fusion. Remember fusions ? It worked very well for Trunks and Goten who are 2 feets from you. Oh it's not like you know strong people like Hit who might be interested into killing Black too since he's, you know, an assassin !

but sadly

>MA JUNIOR: HEY REMEMBER THE MAFUBA ?

>>148632139
HEADCANON

>>148634465
>It worked very well for Trunks and Goten

Did you not actually watch the show? Gotenks accomplished nothing.

>>148634633
It made them more powerful than Goku.

The fact they got beat is pointless, fusion works.

>>148634465
mafuba is the only thing that could work here. remember that little wish that was made? you know... for AN IMMORTAL BODY

>>148634676
>The fact they got beat is pointless, fusion works.
What the fuck are you saying?

>>148634758
I'm saying fusion makes you stronger and they need to be stronger, why are they not talking about fusion ?

>>148634789
Because isn't the guy immortal and shit?

>>148634808
Then bring Buu, beat down the guy and let Buu absorb him.

>>148634789
Vegeta would never consider it. I don't think Goku would either. It puts their Saiyan name to shame and will only be used as a last resort. Since Piccolo brought up this old technique, Goku would rather try that instead.

>>148634718
An immortal body, which apparently comes with Wolverine-level regeneration and pain immunity?

>>148632139
Says who? We've yet to learn of any limitations of the super Dragonballs

>>148634876
That would make things worse, Buu takes on the personality traits of people he absorbs

>>148631302
>He hasn't even tried the spirit bomb yet.
There's little life force to give power to a Genki Dama in Future Trunk's world by this point. It'd be worthless.

>>148634876
Better idea is to have Buu turn them into cotton candy.

>>148634899
Head Canon. So far we have no idea how it's supposed to work. Blasting off his head did nothing to Zamasu.

Also, no one is stronger than Super Shenron, not even Beerus.

>>148634876
We already saw what that happened with Vegetto

>>148635106
>Also, no one is stronger than Super Shenron, not even Beerus.
Omni King

The dragons are only as powerful as their creators.

And all gods, such as the god who made the super dragon balls/super shenron, are weaker then Omni King

>>148631302
It's not like Zamasu and Black is going to watch all day
Frieza was seeing how far Goku can handle it and Buu was an idiot and was busy dealing Vegeta.
The only alternatives for Goku here is to depend on two jobbers who got rekt in a minute.

>>148635260
I was talking in context of U6 and U7

Omni king seems to really not care people's suffering seeing that he already destroyed 6 universes.

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>>148632139
>Not even the super dragon balls in gokus timeline has the power to revive someone in another timeline.

>>148634522
>>148635358
Considering gods have no idea about time travel, it might be probable that he's right

>>148631112
no

1) it's got a 1/10 chance of killing him

2)Black isn't going to sit around and let Goku power up

3) Even if he did, Goku doesn't want Black to learn it

>>148631112
Been thinking about this. The only way he will be able to use this technique is if he uses it more. They described the side effect, delayed onset ki disorder, the same way as delayed onset muscle soreness. Training your muscles at high intensity causes muscle soreness but after time you should be able to attain that level with little soreness.

>>148635477
>this pathetic attempt at sockpupptery

You're not fooling anyone

>>148631112
It takes time to power up
There's a chance it might not work
It's Toei filler

>>148631112
Given all the talk of 'working together' and 'zamasu and black being in sync' I thought they were going to go the fusion route and that we'd see SSB Gogeta

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>>148635626
>sock puppets
>on anonymous board
Lol.inb4 mobile poster.

Once again, Goku proved that he's not simply a one-dimensional tanker type of guy, unlike Vegeta

Unlike Vegeta, he could do arcane shit
>telepathy
>heat vision (or ki vision. whatever)
>kamehameha out of his feet
>controlled kamehameha (not just direct, linear version)
>instant transmission
>now mafuba

The only thing vegeta could do is beam attack and fisticuff

>>148635709
>It's Toei filler
When is this meme gonna die. The anime and manga are two different continuities.

This is getting fucking ridiculous

>>148627459
>>148632539
>>148629980
>>148633934
>>148629243

Are people this incapable of using the catalog?

>>148635757
Next episode is titled Advent of Merged Zamasu. Go figure
>Zamasu gets mafuba'd
>Beerus gets there and black is fucked
>He exchange earrings position
>Immortal Blackmasu too powerful even for Beerus
>Gowasu offers help and provide potara for Goku and vegeta

>>148631232
> Toei filler

did you even read the manga? If anything the Toyotaro version is not canon, it was complete garbage

>>148635924
>implying Gowasu won't fuse with Beerus and say "leave Black to me".

>>148632025
>why didnt they use the senzu last episode?
Because they couldn't have beaten them anyway. As Vegeta said more than once, they need a plan. And now they have it.

>>148635838
From the same draft
It can cause continuity problems.I would say Manga is closer to Tori's vision because it's his assistant.
Many are saying, Hit can rekt Zamasu while in the manga Hit isn't even as strong as Vegeta.

>>148635089
>Better idea is to have Buu turn them into cotton candy.
That woudn't work because of lol reiatsu, I mean, ki.

>>148636051
> while in the manga Hit isn't even as strong as Vegeta.
DESU, this was one of the worst parts of the manga.

What made the anime Goku vs Hit fight good was that Goku went literally all out, even using a technique that had a 90% chance to kill him, and STILL couldn't beat Hit, because he simply couldn't keep it up.

It showed that, while goku and Vageta are the strongest mortals of their unvierse, there are still other people out there, besides Gods, just as, if not stronger, then they are.

In the Manga, Goku and Vageta are, bar none, the two strongest mortal fgts in TWO universes. Which just feeds into more Mary sue power wankery.

If he ever does it again, he'll lose the bility to use ki

So said king kai.

>>148636051
>I would say Manga is closer to Tori's vision
No.

>>148635792
So that makes Vegeta one-dimensional?
Who knew going SSJ was the only way to beat Freezer?
Who came up with the plan to defeat Buu?
Who realized first they needed a different aproach to defeat Zamasu and Black?
The last time Goku used his brain was when he took Gohan to the Time Chamber in order to fight Cell, and even then, he excecuted his plan very poorly.

Vegeta is the strategist here. So are Piccolo or Roshi, who still realize what's happening most of the time, despite being far behind and irrelevant, respectibly, in terms of power.

Goku is the one that usually tries to win by just going and standing in front of the evil guy.

>>148636705
Yes

>>148636844

This manlet is mad.

>>148632099
>having family

fucking normies

Remember when people argued Zenkai no longer worked at high powerlevels because it had been more or less written out by the Buu Saga?

Why does zenkai only work for Black? Why does it work per-punch as opposed to when healing from grievous injury?
Why is Super such inconsistent garbage?

>>148634465

Mafuba is the only thing that's going to work.

>Black, somehow, gets stronger every single time he's hit
>Zamasu is literally inmortal

Sealing "the one that can't die" and team against the other is a good idea.

>>148632099
I believe you anon. your brother is an asshole

>>148631353
doesn't the Mafuba kill the user?

>>148640133
Nope. It's just a quite heavy technique. It could kill goku if he was really weakened when using it.

Goku doesn't need kaioken. He will get Saiyan Red Aura+Blue+Yellow with no eyebrows later in the series.

>>148640133
Depends of the user. Mutaito and Roshi died because they were old. Tenshinhan just got tired as fuck. Kami got reversed because Piccolo was stronger than him and already knew that move.

>>148631112
cool but ultimately not canon

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A16 was not destroyed in the future. He will save the day.

>>148641308
>A16 sees black
>Thinks he's Goku, which he's programmed to kill
>Saves the day

POTTERY

>>148641308
His suicide bomb could be strong enough to take out black.
Sadly #16 would need a major power upgrade to even get close to black

>>148640133
It could be easily justified by how much more ki they have now.

Like how Tien originally risked his life doing just one Tri-Beam, but was able to spam the crap out of it against Cell before falling unconscious.

>>148640133

It used a lot of Ki for DB standards.Just like the Kikoho.

>>148634465
Hit would probably destroy Black. He tanked Kaioken Goku.

>>148635879
Catalog-sama! I thought you died

>>148641562
16 has a nuke in his body.

>>148632139
>Not even the super dragon balls in gokus timeline has the power to revive someone in another timeline.
>Not know about the super multi-timeverse dragon balls in multi-time timeline null time zone which has the power to revive someone in another timeline.
KEK newbs.

>>148642831

>Implying a Nuke can deal any damage to Black

Even Cell laught at 16's Bomb.

>>148634465
They cant afford hit.
They don't have u6 currency

>>148631444
source?

>>148631232
>ever heard of dragonballs ?
>Kami is is not in the future
>Super version destroyed in the future
None in the future timeline.

They could've used mafuba on majin buu

Regarding mafuba and etc, what about the seal that originally trapped Buu? It seems to be far more secure than mafuba. It seems you can easily break the mafuba seal, doesn't seem like a good solution.

>>148644169
no one knows the spell except bibidi and babidi

>>148644211
How about Zuno? He probably knows.

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>Not just bringing Arale to the future ot searching for her
>Implying she got killed by 17 & 18
>Not just deactivated because she was too OP

>>148635709
>It's Toei filler
Are you implying that Super isn't one giant filler. They just paid Toriyama to put his name on it. Toriyama would never right shit this bad.

>>148644417
Might as well as asking him to get rid of those assholes in the first place

>>148645248
"You just need to send them to another timeline".

>the dragon team is sitting around thinking hard on how to beat black and zamasu
>no one mentions fusion
>they mention mafuba

I knew they were going to try Mafuba but why did no one mention Fusion? Are they saving it for later? The setup with Goten and Trunks begging to go the future makes it seem like it.

>>148646022
It depends on how popular Vegito was. I have no clie whether he was popular or not

>>148632099
Was it divine intervention? Were you watching alot of DB and put it together?

Like I don't see how you can call something from the original anime like that

So if you need the potara to be a Kaioshin was Vegito a Kaioshin?

>>148646022
Vegeta already said it, fighting a proper fight seems useless since Zamasu is immortal. Not to mention Vegeta & Goku aren't fans of fusion and might prefer other methods.

>>148647035
Technically, yeah.

>>148646022
It's an absolute last resort. It's only when both Goku and Vegeta are completely willing to throw away all semblance of pride when fusing becomes viable.

>>148649146
so like when Zamasu and Zamasu fuse with their earrings?

Didn't SSB Kaioken give Goku a condition that fucked up his ki control?

>>148647035
>>148647350
Kibito wore them too.

>>148631112
>there are people who call genkidama spirit bomb
Enough

>>148646917
I've watched the original series and Z multiple times, and read through it once. Kinda nice to have on in the background sometimes too.
>>148640066
Thanks anon.

>>148649740
Fucking weeaboo

>>148649509
Probably they'll want to fuse after Zamasu fuses with Zamasu, yes. But we'll probably get Gogeta instead of Vegito, since I doubt they'll take the potara earrings with them.
Maybe Gowasu's going to Trunks Future and delivers the earrings to them.

>>148631112
Goku looks like bubble gum.

>>148631112
They didn't. Just mangafags ruining it for everyone. Just like how they turned Hit into a weakling and Trunks into a monster.

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>You'll never be a little girl and suck Goten's penis
Why even live?