What was the purpose?
What did he do?
For why?
Wtf I hate Kubo now
>>148492502
>"The king of shinigami awakens"
>is in a block of crystal
>does nothing
>dies
Simply brilliant
You only have yourself to blame for not speedreading Bleach.
>>148492502
He's a musician and prominent pirate
>>148492502
Just from the thumbnail, I had thought it was an image of an anus.
>>148492603
Looks more like a vagina to me
>Kubo subtly implies that the ruler of all souls is the vagina
>>148492502
>now
>>148492502
bleach is over anon
I truly and honestly thought the Soul King would be nonexistent or else have some other twist.
Kubo took the most obvious and straight forward path with it, and it couldn't have been written worse.
>>148492502
What's even more retarded is the fact, that they have no SK now apparently. They were fighting against Yhwach because the world would fall apart without the Soul King as they said. But now there is no new SK and the world is still here.
>>148492502
Notice that he had arms and legs when he first appeared. But then he didn't. They were cut off a day ago for no reason at all or Kubo just changed the original idea about the SK altogether.
>>148492502
Everything we know about SK:
- Aizen hated him enough to come up with a plan to reach and kill him; Urahara treated SK more like a necessary evil
- he was a linchpin that kept the worlds (human world, SS and Hueco Mundo) from falling apart
- he had enough awareness to show interest in Ichigo
- he could see the future (or not, depends on how you translate Yhwach's line)
- he was created to regulate the flow of souls between the human world and SS (but not Hueco Mundo?)
- he was Yhwach's father
- he was always a Quincy (or just Pernida?)
- his arms and heart were separated from his body, probably legs too
- those who have Yhwach's blood in their veins (i.e. Quincies) can't tolerate SK's existence and will be urged to attack him by a voice that keeps saying "unforgivable"
- once SK's body was destroyed, a swarm of black one-eyed babies poured out and attacked the Shinigami, but ignored the Quincies (did Yhwach look like one of them when he was born?)
- Yhwach needed to absorb SK's power before attempting to destroy the universe; so SK had the power to do such a thing?
That's more or less it. Make of that what you will. As for me, all signs point at SK being an enemy in the past who was defeated and enslaved by Shinigami.
>>148492502
So, what the fuck happened after Yhwach died?
If the Soul King is necessary for the integrity of the universe, did someone else take his place?
Does Rukia look like someone who has gone through pregnancy to you?
>>148492502
>What was the purpose?
To lead destiny towards IR.
>What did he do?
Keep Ichigo status as the black sun.
>For why?
So that it would match Rukia's white moon.
Wtf I hate Kubo now
>>148497340
She carried like a boss.
>>148497483
I bet they adopted her from Rukongai.
>>148497656
Keep going.
>>148496289
As far as we know nobody. I guess only Aizen and Ichigo were suited for that role at the moment, and none of them became the SK.
>>148497744
You don't need to tell me that, the ride isn't stopping even if you begged me for it
honk honk niggas
>>148497483
You know I don't like Renji so at first I was mad that Kubo gave Rukia to him. But now that I look at them with their cute daughter, I think they actually make a great couple. Renji fits her much better than Ichigo, that's for sure. Still IchiHime is incredibly shitty pairing, but it's only natural that two retards married each other.
>>148497881
Kubo didn't make best Rukia OTP happen.
>>148497936
nigger i will fite u
I had a slight hope that after Naruto ending Pierrot will make Bleach anime once again. But now they announced another filler arc, so I guess no anime in the near future.
>>148497452
>>What was the purpose?
>To lead destiny towards IR.
>>What did he do?
>Keep Ichigo status as the black sun.
>>For why?
>So that it would match Rukia's white moon.
Delusional as ever I see.
>>148497936
Byakuya is too good for anyone.
>>148498514
He is an arrogant faggot. He is no good at all.
The whole reason the Soul King lore is so vague is because it predates the current incarnation of Soul Society. Aizen actually theorized that the 'lynchpin' wasn't necessary to the continued survival of the worlds as long as there was a being of equal power in it's place; we don't know who that being is exactly but the final chapter seems to hint that the mantle was passed from Yhwach to Kazui.
>>148495554
But it becomes iffy as to how 'required' he was for stability of the universe. Was he subdued 1000 years ago once SS was actually established? When was SS established, Yama was 2k+ years old and the school only 1k. So is there a cycle of 'dominant species/rules of reality' where the winner determines the rules until the other entities decide to try again? There's still hell, dog/animal realm and the fact that the soul cycle doesn't make sense, as if we're either lied to about it's importance or is actually fucked up and needs fixing.
SS arc set up enough plot threads to deal with how the world worked that I think quincy arc was shaping up to start answering but lolKubo. I was far more interested in the world than yet another batch of new characters who play one-upmanship for 7+ chapters against the entire existing roster of characters, who then go on to have a 5v1 because baddies are really end game.I enjoyed fulbring arc, somewhat back to roots a little lower key, but complete tangent to rules of the world and fav characters.
Reminder that the final volume should be scanned in two weeks. We'll finally be able to see the final cover, poem, sketches, and extra content.
>>148499284
>Was he subdued 1000 years ago once SS was actually established?
1000 years ago was the first Quincy War, Soul Society had already been established by then.
>>148499350
Yonkou was in a previous thread and said Monday
>>148499350
I prefer a proper ending to Zombie Power over that shit.
You know, after watching Juha stuff himself full of arrows to force himself back into the battlefield, and then seeing ichigo kill him with one sword stroke was a real letdown.
Juha had even stole most of ichigo powers, ichigo should not even be able to scratch his skin after losing that many spiritual power, but kugo had no pages left, so ichigo got a free one hit kill.
Lets not even talk about how the Almighty came back online the next instant, enough to allow Juha to change the future again and save himself, but he he just gave up.
That theory that Juha wanted to die after getting his revenge and feeling only emptiness is the only one that makes sense for me, the only way to explain why Juha would go after Aizen, the only character in the entire manga who still had a chance at killing him, since Ichigo failed at giving Juha the death he craved.
>>148499731
>Monday
Monday for the final cover. Everything else in two weeks right?
>>148492543
To be fair, the "awakens" was the editor's note.
>>148500228
>ichigo should not even be able to scratch his skin after losing that many spiritual power,
I think you missed the point of "The Sword is Me".
>>148497970
Kubo sends his regards.
>>148494690
It's implied that Yhwach regurgitated the SK. Look at the last chapter in the panel with Aizen's monologue and you can see Aizen slowly appearing from Yhwach's black goo watching Ichigo and Yhwach have their final conversation.
>>148492502
He is a god, that was the one that controlled of everything.
However that doesn't mean he has to be OP as shit
>>148500768
Well he probably was OP as shit before his limbs and heart were removed, but somehow everyone missed that important detail...
>>148500228
>That theory that Juha wanted to die
This is the complete opposite of what Juha wanted; his desire to create a 'world where life and death are one' was because he himself was afraid of returning to a senseless state of powerlessness (how he was before he started absorbing souls).
>>148492502
My guess is that he was basically a huge repository of souls like Ywhach that was necessary to perpetuate the cycle of souls. SS reveres him because the cycle keeps them as the top dog and brings stability to the afterlife but it's odd that we only ever see japs and their culture in SS implying that no other populations make it there.
When you think about it, hollowfication is the natural course the afterlife is supposed to take and SS actively fights against that for their own prosperity. Quincies are harmful to the cycle since their actions subvert the flow but I suspect it wasn't because that they destroyed the souls they hunt but absorb them into themselves stealing away SS property.
Kubo was probably going to reveal in the end that SS itself is a system that subverts a much grander order for the sake of their people keeping in with the series' theme of overturning traditions that don't make sense anymore and that SS isn't the only such afterlife but that there are/were others and they're all competing for the greatest territory and dominance they can acquire.
>>148494492
the twist was that while the soul king was an actual person, he didn't do anything, literally. His only purpose was to exist
>>148500687
But SK was killed. That's what allowed Juha to take his power in the first place. So even if some of his power remained, it's not SK himself. It's just some reiatsu.
>>148504520
Why bump? The thread was clearly over.
SK was another sideplot by Kubo to stretch Bleach out for another 10 years.
>>148499284
The court of pure souls and the current noble families were established roughly 2000 years ago. Yhwach invaded 1000 years ago. He was created to regulate the flow of souls between SS, HM and the world of the living. Hell is not included in this equation. Depending on how you interpret the story, you can view HM as the hungry ghost realm.
>>148498842
He is eternally miserable because everyone he's ever loved is dead.
>>148501364
I still can't believe that Kubo gave us nothing about Juha's origin. Where did he came from? Was Soul King his biological father or was it a metaphor? How did he get letter A, did he give it to himself or what? How did he make and gather the first Quincies? What was that deal with a Quincy without powers which was born every 200 years? Was Haschwalth connected to the SK too? And I'm not even talking about the first war with Gotei. Why didn't Yamamoto kill him? Who sealed him for 999 years? Who made the prophesy? Why there were two branches of Quincies after the war - those who hide in Wandenreich and those who stayed on Earth, like Ishidas? Kubo, you mutherfucker.
I also don't understand if Juha was the father of Quincies and created them why they didn't know about it and he had to conquer his own people? Isn't it retarded?
>>148494492
The twist was there was no twist
You were Kubo'd so hard you didn't even notice
What are the chances Kubo releases some sort of anthology of the characters and events in Bleach?
I haven't seen it done for any other manga but Bleach has so many gaps in it that a book like that would be extremely welcoming.
He could explain every shikai and bankai we haven't seen, the major events we know so little of, and if he wanted to, add a bunch of closure to shit like Soul Society post SK.
>>148505945
Well, they still haven't made a databook announcement. Wonder what is Kubo doing right now.
>>148492502
It's very obvious that the Soul King was intented to be the enemy after Yhwach. Haschwalth made that quite clear, just before the Soul King attacked the Shinigami.
Haschwalth: Do not worry. // This is a torrent of the Spirit King’s power. // Released from the seal placed upon it by the Shinigami, / his power has formed an immeasurable torrent, flowing through His Majesty’s body. // It will not cause you any harm. // For the Spirit King’s enemy... // ...is the Shinigami.
>>148505871
Yhwach didn't create the Quincy. Bazz-b's flashback made it quite clear that the Quincy predate Yhwach. Yhwach was just a special Quincy born in a long line of special Quincy.
>>148506399
>Bazz-b's flashback made it quite clear that the Quincy predate Yhwach
What in that flashback proved it? Yhwach was born at least 200 years before Bazz-B, that's all we knew from it.
>Yhwach was just a special Quincy born in a long line of special Quincy
Or he was the first special Quincy. We don't even know how old exactly he was. I'm not even sure how can he be a special Quincy if he had powers and other special Quincies didn't.
We also saw how he gave power to Quincies through his blood. And how he gave away his soul. Apparently people who received his soul pieces became Quincies.
>>148492502
Don't worry anon all our questions will be answered in bleach:re starring kazui
>>148506674
>What in that flashback proved it? Yhwach was born at least 200 years before Bazz-B, that's all we knew from it.
>Or he was the first special Quincy. We don't even know how old exactly he was.
Yhwach said that Haschwalth was the first special Quincy born in these 200 years. No special Quincy was born in the 200 years since Yhwach's own birth. But the thing is, if Yhwach was the first Quincy, how can there be tales pf powerless Quincy that were culled by normal Quincy, if no such Quincy was born since Yhwach's birth 200 years ago?
>I'm not even sure how can he be a special Quincy if he had powers and other special Quincies didn't.
What powers? Yhwach was also powerless. His own flashback proved that. He only had the power to give and take, which is something all special powerless Quincy have.
>We also saw how he gave power to Quincies through his blood. And how he gave away his soul.
He didn't give powers. He awakened the dormant powers inside the Quincy. And some Quincy have their powers even before they met Yhwach, like Uryuu, Askin and the Loyds. The Schrift is the power of the inndividual Sternritter and belongs only to them. It's the reason Yhwach couldn't take them away with the Auswahlen. Blut and Vollständig on the other hand were given by him, but that's it.
>Apparently people who received his soul pieces became Quincies.
That has never been confirmed and since Quincy most likely predate Yhwach, he probably just awakened their dormant potential.
>>148507195
I don't think Kubo wants to continue it.
>>148507406
Bleach wasn't exactly high selling. If he doesn't want to go broke in a few years he will have to put out new work, whether its a continuation or not is to be seen.
>>148505945
I remember Kubo saying he had about 50 notebooks filled with ideas about the characters and the story. What happened.
>>148507405
One of my favorite theories about the last arc was the one suggesting Ginjo was one of the special quincies.
>>148507405
>What powers?
Have you even read this manga? Ha has all basic Quincy powers on the highest level. He can manipulate reishi and create weapons from them, like giant arrows and swords. He has advanced blut anhaben. And many more like those spells he used during his battle with Yamamoto and Ichibei. Haschwalth btw still can't do shit with reishi and uses only his real sword.
>He didn't give powers. He awakened the dormant powers inside the Quincy. And some Quincy have their powers even before they met Yhwach, like Uryuu, Askin and the Loyds. The Schrift is the power of the inndividual Sternritter and belongs only to them. It's the reason Yhwach couldn't take them away with the Auswahlen. Blut and Vollständig on the other hand were given by him, but that's it.
You need to distinguish Schrift and basic Quincy power which is a control over reishi. Ishida didn't have Schrift before Yhwach gave it to him. Askin was just 'hard to kill' whatever it may mean. It doesn't mean he had a Letter. The same case with Royd. It was never said that Yhwach only awakens some dormant powers (where are they come from in that case btw?).
Sternritters might had have some personal inclinations, like Mask wanted to be the Star, so he got corresponding power. You also completely forgot that Yhwach can grant wishes. That's why Sternritters' powers correspond to their personalities - that's what they wished for. He even showed how he can give a specific ability - when he gave himself a power of Voice. The same way he gave others their special abilities.
Now as for basic Quincy power of reishi control - Ishida had it already because he is a descendant of other Quincies obviously. And first Quincies were those people who received his soul pieces hundreds of years before, that's just the most logical conclusion.
>>148507405
>No special Quincy was born in the 200 years since Yhwach's own birth
It was never stated that he was born exactly 200 years before.
>But the thing is, if Yhwach was the first Quincy, how can there be tales pf powerless Quincy that were culled by normal Quincy, if no such Quincy was born since Yhwach's birth 200 years ago?
Because he was born earlier.
>he said something about being OVER 200 years old
>>148508349
He said this to Haschwalth and Bazz-B:
Flashback!Juchabach: It is just... // ...as my eyes have seen. // You do not yet understand the nature of your own power. // It is only natural that you cannot create a Heilig Bogen. // You are the same as I... // A Quincy with the power to share with others.
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Flashback!Juchabach: I have searched long and hard for such a one. // After all... / A Quincy with the same power as I... // ...has not once been born in the two hundred years... / ...since I myself came into this world.
>>148508423
>A Quincy with the same power as I... // ...has not once been born in the two hundred years... / ...since I myself came into this world.
It's a different line in MS translation. He says that there wasn't a special Quincy in the last 200 years that's all. And even your translation can be interpreted this way. It's just as long as he can remember since he was born a special Quincy hasn't appeared in the last 200 years. But there were some before.
>>148508219
>Have you even read this manga? Ha has all basic Quincy powers on the highest level. He can manipulate reishi and create weapons from them, like giant arrows and swords. He has advanced blut anhaben. And many more like those spells he used during his battle with Yamamoto and Ichibei. Haschwalth btw still can't do shit with reishi and uses only his real sword.
Haschwalth also learned to utilize Reishi, when he dispersed Nanao's kido barrier.
>Ishida didn't have Schrift before Yhwach gave it to him.
He did. The Antithesis waswhatprotected him from theAuswahlen.
>The same case with Royd.
Royd and Loyd were able to shapeshift when they were little children, long before theymet Yhwach.
>It was never said that Yhwach only awakens some dormant powers (where are they come from in that case btw?).
From the same place Ichigo or the Hogyoku awakened Orihime's and Chad's powers, from their heart.
>He even showed how he can give a specific ability - when he gave himself a power of Voice
He didn't give himself the Voice. he gave himself a voice. He just punctured his windpipe in order to speak again. Which is something every surgeon can do and a real-life procedure.
>And first Quincies were those people who received his soul pieces hundreds of years before, that's just the most logical conclusion.
Bazz-B's flasback proved that there were Quincy before Yhwach, so they didn't get their powers from them. Most prominently Pernida.
>>148508675
Everyone knows that Cnet128 is much more reliable than MS.
It can't be interpreted that way. Yhwach himself stated twice that he was born about 200 years ago. He was born 200 years before Haschwalth. Yhwach is not the first Quincy. There were Quincy born before him and he is just one of many special powerless Quincy. Gerard and Pernida are both Quincy and obviously older than him.
>>148508838
>Haschwalth also learned to utilize Reishi, when he dispersed Nanao's kido barrier
He did it extremely slowly, not on the level of Yhwach at all.
>He did. The Antithesis waswhatprotected him from theAuswahlen
Nice fanfiction. Care to show manga page which states it?
>Royd and Loyd were able to shapeshift when they were little children, long before theymet Yhwach.
It wasn't a shapeshifting. It was only said that they were so similar nobody could distinguish them from each other.
>From the same place Ichigo or the Hogyoku awakened Orihime's and Chad's powers, from their heart
Source: your ass.
>He didn't give himself the Voice. he gave himself a voice. He just punctured his windpipe in order to speak again. Which is something every surgeon can do and a real-life procedur
Now you are just being intentionally retarded, aren't you? He clearly gave himself the Voice it was even emphasized in manga.
>Bazz-B's flasback proved that there were Quincy before Yhwach, so they didn't get their powers from them. Most prominently Pernida
That flashback didn't prove shit. You also don't know when Pernida was born. SK is Yhwach's father, and she is SK's arm. I assume SK fathered someone before his legs and arms were chopped off and he was placed into the crystal.
>>148508987
>Everyone knows that Cnet128 is much more reliable than MS
Nice ad populum, but Cnet and BadKarma have made mistakes in their translations before.
> Yhwach himself stated twice that he was born about 200 years ago
Where is that? He didn't state it in another translation and even in Cnet translation he doesn't say it like that.
> Gerard and Pernida are both Quincy and obviously older than him
So you think SK had a child after he was put into that crystal without his heart and limbs? Yeah right.
>>148494690
Also, why did Yhwach want the Soul King's "power" in the first place? Because one of the following has to be true:
A: The Soul King can't fight/has no fighting power due to his position (has to 'focus' on keeping the world stable or whatever).
B: This specific person acting as the Soul King has no fighting power in the first place.
So Yhwach wouldn't attack the Soul King if A were true, because then he'd lose his own power - but B also doesn't really make any sense in a battle shounen type setting and the way he was hyped up.
>>148509138
>He did it extremely slowly, not on the level of Yhwach at all.
Your point being?
>Nice fanfiction. Care to show manga page which states it?
Haschwalth: ...I see... / That is a remarkable power...... // I can see... / ...why His Majesty was so very interested in you...... // The power...to reverse that which has already occurred...... // That may well be the only ability... / ...capable of standing up to His Majesty’s own......
Yhwach was interested in Uryuu because he survived the Auswahlen and Haschwalth stated that the reason for that was the Antihesis.
>It wasn't a shapeshifting. It was only said that they were so similar nobody could distinguish them from each other.
The first person to confuse the twins Loyd and Royd for one another was the nurse who brought them into the world[...]They did not realise this themselves until they were both five years old. // And when they were twelve years old, they realised... // ...that they could imitate other people as well as one another.
>Source: your ass.
The heart is the source of power for every being. Oetsu and Aizen both stated that it's how they and Shinigami draw their powers from.
>Now you are just being intentionally retarded, aren't you? He clearly gave himself the Voice it was even emphasized in manga.
You're a special kind of stupid aren't you? Yhwach did a Tracheo-oesophageal puncture in order to regain his voice again.
Juchabach: I grant myself... // ...a voice!!! // Sankt Bogen!!!
>That flashback didn't prove shit. You also don't know when Pernida was born. SK is Yhwach's father, and she is SK's arm. I assume SK fathered someone before his legs and arms were chopped off and he was placed into the crystal.
You just went full retard. The Soul King most certainly didn't father anyone. He has been inside the crystal for several thousands of years and even before Soul Society was created. Yhwach is not that old and stated himself that he is only 1200.
>>148509572
The Soul King has no power, because his power was dispersed and the rest was sealed away by the Shinigami. He didn't became the lynchpin because he wanted to. And Yhwach initally didn't want the Soul King's power. He just wanted to kill him, but after Mimihagi showed that the Soul King is immune to the Almighty, he decided to absorb the Soul King so that no one can interfere anymore.
>>148509318
>Nice ad populum, but Cnet and BadKarma have made mistakes in their translations before.
They are still more realiable than the guys who chose kinging like kong as a translation.
>Where is that? He didn't state it in another translation and even in Cnet translation he doesn't say it like that.
He does. In the 200 years since I myself cam into this world. It's very obvious what Yhwach means.
>So you think SK had a child after he was put into that crystal without his heart and limbs? Yeah right.
He can change the future. Of course he can.
You forget that the SK was implied to be able to hear and speak (or at least communicate in some form or another if not speech) in his first appearance where an unnamed attendant speaks to him directly. That one moment seems to run counter to all subsequent appearances where he's just an inert body in a jar. Also there were never any further signs of the Royal Realm being inhabited by anyone other than the Royal Guard and their handful of assistants: chinese hotspring guys, cloth ninjas, sword harem.
>>148508675
>何しろ同じ力を滅却師は
>nanishiro onaji chikara o KUINSHII wa
at any rate/anyhow/anyway/in any case/because/as you know/for you see + same/identical/equal/similar+ability/proficiency/capacity/faculty + <indicates direct object> + Quincy*+<indicates topic>
*extinguishment/destruction/effacement+teacher/master/mentor/religious leader
>私が生れて後二百年
>watashi ga urete nochi nihyakunen
I/me + <indicates subject> + being born <conjunctive adverb> + later/afterwards/since + 200years
>一人たりとも生まれていなかったのだ
>hitori taraitomo umarete itanakatta no da
1 + person + (not) even/(not) any + being born <conjunctive adverb> + not been/not existed +
So, yeah, the line basically reads, in the crudest possible of english for the sake of maintaining literal meaning from the japanese word choices...
>For you see, the same Quincy power —[in regards to] me/my being born, since 200 years— not even 1 person has been born.
In more digestable English that definitely comes out as "the 200 years since my being born"
>>148511758
meant to quote>>148495554
also i think the babies were mimihagi not the sk himself, although that's ind of splitting hairs
>>148505709
There was an enture chapter dedicated to his backstory retard