OK guys, in your personal head canon, put these in order from strongest to weakest.
>Whis
>Beerus
>Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta
>Super Saiyan 4 Goku
>Super Saiyan God Goku
>Super Saiyan Blue Goku
>Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10 Goku
>Omega Shenron
>>148415097
That list is already in order, except why is SSJ Blue Kaioken x10 weaker than regular SSJ Blue?
>>148415157
I didn't type them up in order, I just listed them.
>Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10 Goku
>Whis
>Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta
>Beerus
>Super Saiyan Blue Goku
>Omega Shenron
>Super Saiyan God Goku
>Super Saiyan 4 Goku
From weakest to strongest
SSJ4 Goku
Omega Shenron
SSJ4 Gogeta
SSJB Goku
SSJBKx10 Goku
SSJG Goku
Beerus
Whis
However, Beerus might be able to use his authority to destroy on Whis, so power wise might not matter.
>>148415175
Whis is clearly the strongest.
Beerus would be next.
Can't really compare GT forms, but I'd say SSJ4 Gogeta since it's a fuse.
Omega Shenron, since SSJ4 wasn't enough to kill him.
SSJ4 is next.
SSJ Blue Kaioken x10
SSJ Blue
SSJ God
SSJ God looks so much cooler than Cyan.
>>148415272
>>148415157
>Super Saiyan God stronger than Super Saiyan Blue
What is this meme?
>>148415097
Whis>Beerus>SS4 Gogeta>SSB Kaioken>SSB Vegeta>SSB Goku>Omega Shenron>SS4 Goku.
>>148415280
>SSJ4 is somehow stronger than SSBKx10
>>148415299
Judging from ssjg goku fighting beerus, resulting in tearing up space time. non such happening in ssjb form. Hence ssjb doesn't look like true god powers.
>>148415385
That was just for dramatic effect m8 if they did that for every fight it would be lame besides that didn't happen in the movie which is more canon than the anime
>this thread
Toriyama said in an interview that SSJG was a 6 Beerus was a 10 and Whis was a 15. So SSJBKx10 is at least 4 times stronger than Whis, but the technique has a 90% chance to kill Goku so he's probably never using it again.
>>148415690
This is probably exponential and not a basic scale. So for example if Goku is 10, then Beerus is 100,000, and Whis is 10,000,000
Using this example, Kaoiken x 10 SSB Goku would still barely make a dent in his power compared to Beerus.
No way Kaioken touches Whis. Even Beerus said it wouldn't really make much of a difference if they were to fight - he was just irritated that if Goku had such an ability from the start, why didn't he use it in their fight?
>>148415795
Whis is 10,000,000,000* my bad
>>148415097
>OK guys, in your personal head canon
>Whis
>Beerus
>Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10 Goku
>Super Saiyan Blue Goku
>Super Saiyan God Goku
>Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta
>Omega Shenron
>Super Saiyan 4 Goku
>>148415829
>Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10 Goku and Super Saiyan Blue Goku are above Super Saiyan God Goku
>Beerus used a lot of his power against Super Saiyan God Goku, yet doesn't even think SSB Kaioken x 10 Goku could even touch him
Choose one. Except you don't get a choice, because only one of these happened. SS God > SSB
>>148415272
This should be the right list
>>148415272
Good, someone who's not retarded and actually understands that SSJG Goku > SSJB Goku
SSB>SSG.
Read the manga.
Anyone who thinks God is stronger than Blue is a FUCKING RETARD and probably looks like gif related.
>>148416088
The show is the source material you mongoloid. The manga takes personal liberties that Toriyama hasn't approved.
>>148416244
Explain your reasoning.
>tfw legendary super saiyan is now canon
>>148416244
>Anyone who thinks God is stronger than Blue is now Charlie Chaplin
Okay.
>Literally forgotten for the last 30 years.
Hold me.
>>148416512
It's the reverse. The anime takes more liberties due to its schedule.
>>148415385
Blue is confirmed stronger in the manga
>>148415900
>Beerus used a lot of his power against Super Saiyan God Goku
No
>doesn't even think SSB Kaioken x 10 Goku could even touch him
No
Hence you are wrong.
>almost 30 years later
>people still think other characters have power that can rival Goku - irregardless of his form and their form
You're stupidity is astonishing.
>>148416941
>irregardless
Why did Future Trunks cry when Gohan died to Androids? Gohan could have gone to North Kaio and talked to F. Trunks through North Kaio.
>>148416866
Nice rebuttal fagotron
>>148416998
I'm guessing for the same reason why nobody else did that the androids killed.
>>148416998
For the same reason Goten had never spoken to Goku before their first meeting
>>148416998
I mean... if they dead people in Future Trunks' world actually bothered doing something, they could already have used the Namek balls and the whole situation would have been avoided, aside from Goku remaining dead (Use the one day return in order to go to New Namek, use the Dragonballs there and resurrect everyone, Goku tells them about the RoSaT and so they beat the Androids).
Future Trunks' world only really works like it is because the afterlife basically doesn't exist for some reason.
>>148417521
In future Trunks:
No one alive knows where The new namek is.
For all we know uranai baba is dead.
Kaiosama let goku stay with him because he saved The earth with his death and was granted permision by edma. We dont know if he could still be with kaiosama if he died of natural causes.
Isnt Vados canonically stronger than Whis?
Whis
Beerus
SSJ4 Gogeta
SSB Kaioken x10 Goku
SSB Goku
SSG Goku
Omega Shenron
SSJ4 Goku
Technically DBS happens between DBZ and DBGT, that means all transformations and characters in DBS are weaker than those in DBGT. From strongest to weakest:
SSJ4 Gogeta
Omega Shenron
SSJ4 Goku
Whis
Beerus
SSB Kaioken x10 Goku
SSB Goku
SSG Goku
>>148418565
GT is a different timeline in which the events of super didn't happen
>>148418565
With the difference GT is not canon and SS4 transformations don't use god ki.
GTardZ, charactersonsteroidfags and Brolyfags don't realize everything that doesn't use Godly ki is going to be way weaker than a godly transformation.
>>148417717
>We dont know if he could still be with kaiosama if he died of natural causes.
He'd still have saved Earth numerous times. If Grandpa Gohan is good enough to get to keep his body, I don't see why Goku would need to the Cell Saga event in order to be considered an hero. It was never said that it needed to be an "heroic death", just that "heroes" keep their bodies.
>>148418565
DBS and GT are incompatible anon.
>>148415097
>Canon
>SS4
Pick one
>>148415097
Makes me wonder if Trunks actually discovered the SSJ4 form that doesn't need a tail (the natural successor of the blonde ssj3). While Goku followed the tail route.
>>148418057
She said she was stronger the last time they fought but he said that was a long time ago
>>148415097
Super Saiyan 3
Super Saiyan 2
Super Saiyan
Kaioken
And none of this new bullshit
>>148415272
this is the true list
>>148415097
Dragonball Super has much higher feat then GT ever did. The most impressive thing is that Omega Shenron would eventually destroy galaxy's via chain reaction.
Goku and Beerus would have hollowed out the universe if they didn't negate the energy during the fight. Even in the Dragonball Super manga, Goku and Beerus were rattling the universe and galaxies with their punches. Basically it shits all over anything DBGT has done.
Whis > Beerus > SSBKx10 Goku > SSJB Goku >/= SSJB Vegeta > SSG Goku > Anything GT
The super versions of Beerus is portrayed to be a lot stronger then the original 6/10/15 scale toriyama mentioned, even the lines about Goku and Vegeta working together to defeat Beerus was removed in Super.
>>148421007
you forgot mystic
>>148421007
Wow you must have HARDCORE and ORIGINAL tastes when it comes to DRAGON BALL, right anon!? You're a real no-nonsense kinda guy! We cant accept this new SUPER crap that ruins our perfect and flawless screamy-man anime!! We all look up to you!!! God speed, OP! Simply ebin! :^)
>>148421467
Kek but basically you've hit the nail on the head
Whis > SSJ4 Gogeta > Omega Shenron > SSB Kx10 Goku > SSJ4 Goku > Beerus > SSB Goku > SSG Goku
>>148415097
>Whis
>Beerus
>SSB Kaioken x10
>SSB
>SSG
>SS4 Gogeta
>Omega Shenron
>SS4
>>148416941
>Phisical power
>Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann not at the tip top
>No Young Scrooge Mcduck
Fix this madness.
>>148423545
So Trunks and Mai's kids will be forced to be incest with each other?
>>148423445
>Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
>ultimately started to break down after Super Granzeboma broke the Giga Drill
>>148422939
This right here, base gt goku was at SSJ3 DBZ.
>>148415097
> Whis
> SS4 Gogeta
> Beerus
> SSB Kaioken x 10 Goku
> SSB Goku = SSG Goku
> Omega Shenron
> SS4 Goku
Anyone got a WebM of Trunks going into his new form?
Ss4ssjssgkx10ssr kurogeerwhis when?
>>148417068
If you say blue is orange then a simple NO is sufficient.
God
i hate having to watch this fucking shitty anime for fuck sake it's so stupid