Dragon Ball Super

>>148333524
Who?

>>148333590
Broly.

Why didn't Zamasu simply blown the Earth up?

>>148333663
because he thinks the humans deserve to suffer more than any other race

can i get a torrent link or magnet link for this ep? spic subs has some mistakes

>>148333663
He wants to preserve Earth sans humans

>>148333663
Zamasu finds planets beautiful, and mourns the destruction its suffering through for him to exterminate all the mortals inhabiting it.

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Has ANYONE in DB had a life as hard as future trunks?

>Be born
>Dad dies
>Piccolo dies
>Goku dies
>All the Z fighters die
>17 and 18 go on a spree of destruction and kill millions
>Meets Gohan
>Trains with Gohan
>Gets his shit pushed in by the androids
>Gohan loses an arm to save him
>His only friend and mentor, Gohan, dies
>Achieves super saiyan
>Still gets his shit pushed in by the androids
>His mom builds a time machine so that he can save goku and stop the androids
>He does it
>An even bigger threat appears
>His arrogant dad lets the threat get even stronger
>Thanks to Gohan the threat is averted
>Return to the future
>Kill the androids
>An evil Goku and a green dude show up and destroy 99% of humanity and wreck the planet
>Get your ass kicked and once again run into the past to try to avert it
>Bring Goku and Vegeta with you to fight the enemies
>They get their shit pushed in
>Run back to the past AGAIN
>Kill past version of green dude
>Return to the future
>He's still there, get their shit pushed in AGAIN
>Turns out this is all his fault for fucking with time travel

Reminder there is a plot hole in blacks OG timeline

Either that or expect vegeta+goku in Zamasu body to show up

>>148333663
Why is Trunks hair blue?

>>148333821
There is? We just saw a flashback of Black Goku killing Goku in Zamasu's body.

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Reminder that you are too stupid to understand Dragon Ball

>>148333794
Not to mention that he died in several timelines and the Trunks we see now in Super is the lone survivor of those.

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>>148333794
>Has ANYONE in DB had a life as hard as future trunks?
>Be Vegeta
>Jobs

>>148333821
Did you even watch the episode?

>>148333794
>>Turns out this is all his fault for fucking with time travel

and if he didn't travel back the first time the result would have been the same since the androids would just destroy everything

there is no victory for Trunks ;_;

>>148333821
are you fucking retarded?

EPIC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6kNtGIkSYw

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>>148333794
Trunks needs hugs, not immortal ningen hating thugs. Won't you hug him too anons?

Which fanbase has been BTFO the hardest by this arc?

>Vegetafags who always clinged to the fact that Vegeta was undefeated against Goku until he jobbed against Black
>Gohanfags who always clinged to "muh special snowflake hybrid" until Trunks took that away from him
>Gotenfags who pushed the "Black=Goten" theory down everyone's throats

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>>148333524
so does "legendary super saiyan" form beat "ssj blue" and "ssj rose"?

>>148333901

If anything the post-apocalyptic android world was a lot better than the post-apocalyptic zamasu world. 17 and 18 were just killing people for fun, like squashing ants, they didn't really have a concentrated to plan to ERADICATE EVERY SINGLE FILTHY NINGEN.

>>148333945
is it bad that this hyped me up even more than when Gohan went SSJ2?

>>148333890
Well i know what i'm doing tonight

>>148333524
yellow+cyan=green=brolly=LSSJ?

>>148333853
>>148333892
>>148333940
It's called the Afterlife, goku is still alive and logically used the dragon balls to wish him back to life

>>148333978
No, to this day SSJ2 Gohan remains the biggest asspull of the series.

Trunks releasing the culmination of rage throughout the years explode >>>> faggot crybaby nerd boy going mad over how useless he is

>>148333974
This.

17 and 18 didn't even care about it. In fact, in the special, they liked having fun that didn't involve killing people. They are just playing around and killing people on the side.

Zamasu is actively trying to kill people by toying with them and making them feel like there's nothing left.

Similar, but different.

I'll also add in that 17 and 18 held back so Gohan never died, that way they always had a "challenge." Zamasu is only holding back because he doesn't want to nuke the planet.

>>148333978
that depends, are you talking about funimation or subbed? Subbed was the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XebyKpo6A9s

>>148334107
>faggot crybaby nerd boy going mad over how useless he is
So, Future Trunks?

>>148334107
Gohan going SSJ2 was talked about for a long time

the whole SSJ2 thing was discussed in the cell arc a lot actually

Why do gohanfags want him to use mafuba so much? Don't anybody remember that it shortens life to zero killing the one who uses it without possibility to return even by using Dragon Balls? Are they so desperate for him to be relevant again that they want him to die?

>>148334107
>SSJ2 Gohan remains the biggest asspull of the series.
Bullshit. SSJ2 Gohan was hinted from the training in the time chamber. It was hinted that he had power that needed to be activated, him "transforming" was just a way of giving him visual power. The biggest asspull is probably Zenkai, old kai/mystic, or potara.

So what form is this exactly? I looks like SSJ2 but has SSJB aura around it.

How could Trunks even go SSJB when he never had God Ki exposed to him?

>>148333940
>>148333853
>>148333892
Is that you toriyama, afterlife does still exist you know

>>148334199
Gohan did absolutely nothing for 3/4 of the arc

>>148333794
>Turns out this is all his fault for fucking with time travel

Zamasu's just trying to justify himself by forcing responsibility off onto someone else

>>148334205
>SSJB when he never had God Ki exposed to him
>Being around Beerus, goku, and Vegeta
>SSJB Goku back to back with him, both leaking ki like a faucet.
>Vegeta trained with someone who isn't a god and got god ki
>Trunks seemingly can't get it?
Anon, do you pay attention?

>>148334245
Everyone got the same amount of time to shine. Gohan was just rewarded with the kill.

>>148333524
Bulky SSJ+SSB?

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>Goku literally blew his head off
>Still alive

How are they going to defeat him?

>>148334199
>The biggest asspull is probably Zenkai

This

>What his battle power is 9000! Impossible!
>What?! It's 20,000 now?!
>Ah no forget that. It's actually 1,500,000

DBS events plotholes
*Black timeline
- SSB Vegeta would've rekt him if he didn't travel away to another timeline (we know Black was weak in his first encounter when he had no SSJ)
- Goku would still be alive in the afterlife and would've used the dragon balls to wish him and goten/chichi back
- Goku and Friends would've met with whis and kaioshin to ask more about this fellow with Kaioshin earrings (or why he looks like a kaio right now)
- Ultimately they would find U10 has no kaioshin and missing time rings
They can then use the time rings of their own universe to find black

*Future trunks timeline, this one is from before as well
- Goku, Gohan, Piccolo, etc. are still alive in the afterlife (of course vegeta is sent to be reincarnted, unless king yemma gave him a body like buu saga to fight against the androids)
- They still have the New Namek dragon balls, which Kaiosama can find and ask the namekians to use
- At any point kaiosama could've talked to future trunks

>>148334327
viable bulky SSJ is SSJ2 tho

>>148334341
zeno button

>>148333650
non canon

>>148333663
He's got a nice mountainside villa on Earth.

>>148334245
Same for Goku. It was Vegeta Piccolo and Trunks' show until Cell Games.
Android Arc was terribly paced in general.

>>148334341
Mafuba

Hold up, are Black and Zamasu both immortal, or just Zamasu? And I'm sure it's been brought up before, but hasn't Zamasu realised the hypocrisy of becoming a Ningen to remove the Ningen?

>>148334381
Stop forcing your shitty theories after you e already been proven wrong, Pedro

>>148334431
Only Zamasu

He already mentioned it was ironic they are using a ningen

>>148334431
Zamasu is immortal
Black is just crazy powerful

>>148334428
they are going back to learning a kamehame.

>>148334431
Zamasu is immortal, Black isn't cause he needs damage to grow stronger

>>148334455
Where have I been proven wrong? Afterlife doesn't exist now?

Speaking of SSJ2 Gohan, I never really got the impression that he would care that much about Android 16.

I mean, it's not like they spent any great amount of time together. Sure, they both like nature I guess, but seeing as how at that point Gohan had already watched his dad, piccolo and krillin die I don't see why 16 would send him over the edge.

>>148333794
>has a 50-something year old pure waifu
>gets to be a time cop alongside loli kai and a bunch of ultimate move-spamming mexicans
He's got his ups to match the downs.

>>148333663
maybe try watching the episode

>afterlife doesn't exist unless it's relevant to my plot
t. toriyama

>>148333794
Don't forget:
>ancient wizard and literal satan show up to unleash pink death upon already-destroyed planet
>supreme god of the galaxy shows up to help stop them
>barely manage to defeat them and supreme god dies in the process

Beerus said god killed in one timeline will die in all timelines, so why beerus is still alive in our timeline if black and future zamasu killed all kais?
Zamasu and black aren't apprentice of U10, they are both supreme kai's (gods) claimed to have killed all the remaining Kai's.

>>148334533
Goku is 50. Mai is probaby closer to 80 in Future Trunks times

>>148334568
Beerus was talking himself up, that's all that happened

he doesn't understand time travel

>>148334568
>Beerus said god killed in one timeline will die in all timelines
Beerus said he thought it would have had an effect, but he couldn't confirm it himself

>>148334530
It's because Gohan is a similar type of person, he's a softy. Seeing someone who was programmed to do evil, yet appreciate the beauty of nature to the point where they negate their entire existence to preserve life - get their head smashed in by someone who was directly related to them yet to an entirely different path is absolutely mind shattering for a 10 year old.

It goes deeper than just "he's an android, lol."

>>148334589
Even better.

>>148333821
>>148334086
>>148334219
>>148334381
>>148334546
Samefag.

>>148334568
Beerus is a liar that's trying to make himself look greater than he really is. Goku would probably beat him now - not mentioning Monaka

>>148334713
SSB Kaiokenx10 would've beaten him if it was canon

>>148334636
So basically Gohan is a pussy.

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Why is Black so OP?

Goku gave him everything he had, and was kicking his ass for a while, then he just powers up again.

>>148334613
>>148334568

But Black confirmed Beerus, saying to trunks he is alive thanks to the time ring! Oh gosh this plothole shakes my mind

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What even is this form.
>the screaming
>the lightning
>tfw thought he was gonna go SSJ3

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Leave Zamasu to me.

>>148334758
ascended ssj2 form

What's up with the "only spics/mexicans" like GT meme?

>>148334746
This graph explains everything
>>148333880

Black probably doesn't understand that he's from different timeline

>>148334758

Jesus christ whoever made this gif should be hanged

>>148334798
It's not a meme, Pablo.

>>148334568
Maybe they didn't kill beerus, they have him captive somewhere using magic like the sword with old kai. This will make our Beerus very angry.

>>148334746
Yea because otherwise beerus/kaioshin should be dead right now. Or would they? They would just go to the afterlife and kaioshin is aware of the dragon balls to contact namekians.

>>148334821
he does understand since gowasu told him

lots of plotholes

>>148333753
guys halp

>>148334758
>>148334785
It's true SSJ3. Goku's SSJ3 was the fake one

Isn't that great, Vegeta? Your son is the real Legendary Super Saiyan. Makes sense, Broly only awoke his powers through extreme rage and bloodlust.

>>148334731
a pussy with retard strength

How many times did Trunks say Kisama this episode?

Where is this legendary super saiyan shit coming from?

We've had about 50 character-gets-super-fucking-mad-and-powers-up-and-their-eyes-go-clear throughout the series for fucks sake.

I mean jesus christ it literally happened to vegeta when beerus slapped bulma but nobody said he was turning legendary super saiyan.

Stop trying to force the goddamn Broly meme.

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>>148333890
You wanna be like this even though you got btfo this episode?
Goku's rage did jack shit.
Last time goku overpowered a villain that was way back in namek also laser.
Keep quit t.gokufag.
This is the vegeta,trunks and bulma show now.

>>148334878
Isn't that great, Vegeta? Now you're again the third strongest sayian!

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>>148333524
YES

NAME A SINGLE ANIME CHARACTER MORE GANGSTER THAN FUTURE TRUNKS

YOU CAN'T

>>148334381
>- SSB Vegeta would've rekt him if he didn't travel away to another timeline (we know Black was weak in his first encounter when he had no SSJ)
which is why he traveled away. Not a plothole.

>- Goku would still be alive in the afterlife and would've used the dragon balls to wish him and goten/chichi back
Which is why Black traveled away. That timeline is now pushed to the side just like the 3 timelines Trunks and Cell created in the Cell saga. Not a plothole.

>- Goku and Friends would've met with whis and kaioshin to ask more about this fellow with Kaioshin earrings (or why he looks like a kaio right now)
>- Ultimately they would find U10 has no kaioshin and missing time rings
They wouldn't be able to do anything from there aside from take North Kai's rings and go to the future. Black is alreayd in the past at this point, so Goku, Beerus, and Whis would be stumped and continue their life after Goku and his family died. (these are left open just like the Cell saga, not a plothole, just unimportant events in the story)

>- Goku, Gohan, Piccolo, etc. are still alive in the afterlife (of course vegeta is sent to be reincarnted, unless king yemma gave him a body like buu saga to fight against the androids)
Goku died of a natural cause. He isn't supposed to be on Earth anymore. He stated in the Buu saga that he wanted to stay away, this time he literally is supposed to stay dead(nothing can revive him aside from Super DBs).
Gohan and Piccolo could be training with King Kai, but there's still no way for any of them to get to new Namek, only Goku can, and goku can't leave afterlife.
>- They still have the New Namek dragon balls, which Kaiosama can find and ask the namekians to use
Piccolo and Gohan still wouldn't be strong enough to kill the cyborgs, so this is wasted.

>- At any point kaiosama could've talked to future trunks
Which doesn't help at all because no one has power to kill the androids.

>>148334824
Jeane-Smith. lt's in the gif. Now it's time to find him.

>>148334956
Goku is the main character nigger, all saiyans are just offshoots of him.

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>>148334957
>The king of all Saiyans created the strongest Saiyan

Feels Super Man

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>>148334965
>Filler character is more gangster than Trunks
hahahaha

>>148335006
A maincharacter who jobs this much?
Goku is as relevant as vegeta and you know it.

I honestly can't wait for Vegetto to show up again.

I think this will mark the 3rd time in the series when goku was weaker than another main character.

1) Piccolo after fusing back with Kami
2) Gohan after going SSJ2
3) Future trunks after chimping the fuck out

>>148334957
In his world he's still number two. And Vegeta doesn't mind being second to his own offspring, if anything he thinks it's a disgrace that the hybrid saiyans are wasting their enormous talents. He thinks the royal saiyans should be above the scrub saiyans, which is why Gohan being stronger than him pissed him off. If it's Trunks, he won't mind and will in fact be proud of him.

>>148335063
>Vegetto
Lol? Everyone knows it's going to be Gogeta. He's superior in every way that isn't GT.

>>148333663
the better question is why didn't he just wish to have all mortals been removed from history

The explanation for Black's origins in this episode is a plot hole, no way around it.

>according to Herms the Zamasu that became Black comes from a timeline where Trunks never warned them about Black
>the whole reason Goku went all the way to Universe 10 and fought Black is because they were investigating Zamasu because of Trunks' warning
>scene from Black's past SPECIFICALLY shows the exact scene of Goku fighting Zamasu in that earlier episode
>again, Goku would have NO REASON to go to the realm of a Kaioshin, where mortals are normally not allowed, in a COMPLETELY different universe, if it wasn't for the Zamasu investigation

The 'GodTube' excuse doesn't work either because there's no way that would lead into Goku fighting Zamasu on Zamasu's own turf. Toei fucked up.

>>148335039
>king
prince

>all Saiyans
all 5 of them

>>148335077
What about trunks and vegeta after the lookout training?
Mystic gohan?

>>148335077
beerus is a main character now

Gohan's in the NEP. C-could this be it guys?

>>148335106
Because he wants to purge them to fulfill his sense of justice. why do you think Badguys monologue before each kill?

>>148335124
He's the King the old king died

All 5 of them are among the strongest beings in the galaxy tho and can literally become gods

>>148335102
He's not superior. He's the less risk fusion.
They separate after 30 minutes have spent. Vegito is permanent unless they do another asspull like they did Buu. "W-We unfused for no apparent reason!"

>>148335114

Reminder that the time ring has a built-in anti-paradox function so killing zamasu in the past doesn't make him dissapear from the future.

>>148334732
Saiyan biology with near instant regeneration

>>148335124
>5
>Goku 1
>Gohan 0.5
>Trunks 0.5
>Goten 0.5
>Future Trunks 0.5

>>148335180
That's not what I was talking about though.

>>148335160
>He's the King the old king died
Where's the coronation?

why do niggers love Future Trunks?

>>148335114
>>according to Herms the Zamasu that became Black comes from a timeline where Trunks never warned them about Black
Wrong. Just because Herms understand japanese doesn't mean he knows every fucking detail about dragonball.

It's outright stated in the fucking episode that Black is the same Zamasu that fought Goku, which means that happened after Trunks warned them about Black.

The only plothole is you clinging onto what one fan said instead of what's shown in the show.

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>>148335139

Yeah. They will show that he can't even fly anymore and Chichi has to give him a ride

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>>148335195
But shouldn't goku and veggie who have more experience and training with god forms as well as Zenkai be a match?

Hell he was still putting the work to base form goku in almost all of their fights he's shown to have the upper hand

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Is there no stopping this madman?

>>148334975
b-b-b-but muh afterlief!!!

>>148335197
>A half saiyan isn't a saiyan
A Saiyan is a Saiyan, you can't say it's only half.

>>148334938
None of them lost their pupils when it happened. Trunks is the only one so far. Also there's the fact that he's spewing god ki along with regular golden ki. If the two mix it'll become green. And there's also the fact that not a single saiyan that has transformed thus far aside from Broly has shown such extreme bloodlust and rage. Trunks is a special case among special cases and once Vegeta and Goku are gone he will be the only protector of earth. He has to be stronger than everyone else to make up for it.

>>148335269
How long until she cucks Gohan with some real man?

>>148334798
I'm a spic and can confirm, no one here liked GT.

Except maybe the Shadow Dragon saga.

>>148334975
>Which doesn't help at all because no one has power to kill the androids.
goku never stopped training in the afterlife (i.e. when he achieved ssj2, ssj3)

>They wouldn't be able to do anything from there aside from take North Kai's rings and go to the future. Black is alreayd in the past at this point, so Goku, Beerus, and Whis would be stumped and continue their life after Goku and his family died
they can use time rings to travel to other timelines as well, don't see how they can't do anything.

>Goku died of a natural cause. He isn't supposed to be on Earth anymore. He stated in the Buu saga that he wanted to stay away, this time he literally is supposed to stay dead(nothing can revive him aside from Super DBs).
Goku is shown to have an afterlife body in the manga, a virus isn't actually a natural cause, it's a foreign invader.

>>148335197
4
You forgot Vegeta or is that the joke?

>>148334746
>>148334568
The change probably only works from the present onward but not retroactively in the past. Otherwise there would be paradoxes out the wazoo.

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>>148335226
Cause that nigga is fucking based

>>148335287
Except trunks came back as golden trunks.

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>>148335039
>Vegeta's offspring is the Legendary Super Saiyan
>Goku's offspring spends his day at faggot conventions

Vegeta wins again baby

>>148335288
I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not.

Regardless, Goku can't leave, and the dragonballs won't help them because everyone who can get revived is still much weaker than the androids.

>>148335287
Why won't Goku use this sword technique? Knowing him he probably already lerned it looking how Black does that.

>>148335287
Trunks will be next.

Trunks doing the Obari pose when

>>148335357
>next episode
>Trunks loses
>Goku again saves a day

>>148335197
>>148335315
>tfw nobody remembers Tarble

>>148335344
He still got Blacked.

>>148335432
Or Veggies lil bro

>>148335432
Is he even canon?

Apparently episode 66 title is :
Vegetas pride, goku's rage and trunks dream.

Guess no fusion guys just more prolonged cucking

>>148335301

The green hair and aura from Broly wasn't because of LSSJ it was because of the fucking machine his father had made for him

Fucking level 1 reader

>>148335307
>hey can use time rings to travel to other timelines as well, don't see how they can't do anything.
No. You're forgetting that the Black/Zamasu that killed Goku-Chi-Goten is from the future. Goku was never farming after He meant Future Trunks or after he turned SSJB. Black traveled to the past and obtained Goku's body, because in his timeline the Dragonballs were already used.

>Goku is shown to have an afterlife body in the manga, a virus isn't actually a natural cause, it's a foreign invader.
I feel like this is debateable, but it's one of those debates where if you see it one way, you can't see it another, like being gay or some shit. I'll give you that.

>>148335244
>Wrong. Just because Herms understand japanese doesn't mean he knows every fucking detail about dragonball.

I thougut Herms took that right from the dialogue in the episode. Are you saying he was just speculating? He's never really been known to do that without at least telling people that it's his speculation.

>It's outright stated in the fucking episode that Black is the same Zamasu that fought Goku, which means that happened after Trunks warned them about Black.

Then how did that Zamasu survive Beerus's destruction? That makes no sense.

And don't say "because of the time ring", because if that specific Zamasu was the one who became Black then he never would have come into possession of the time ring at all since he was destroyed by Beerus.

>>148335471
He was mentioned in BoG, sooo

>>148335471
he was mentioned in BoG, so yea

>>148333794
He was also killed by Cell. Don't forget that.
Just because Vegeta wanted to fight Perfect Cell.

>>148335496
Wait nvm the first word is fusion.
Maybe 3 way fusion?

Why do some of you people hate Gohan so much?

>he stopped training
and decided to spend time with his family
>he chose his job over the tournament
at least he has a job to earn his living
>he's weak
he's still the strongest non god ki user of the Z gang
>his Super design is shit
I don't have anything for this since it's true

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>>148335102
SURE...

>>148335510
>>148335513
Is BoG movie canon for anime?

>>148335496
source?

>>148335502
Broly destroyed the machine and his ki remained green. And it was only in SSJ form that he still had pupils. In LSSJ form his eyes became white and his ki became green.
>>148335586
He's also mentioned in the anime.

I know it was before, but this timeline shit is utterly fucked.

Let's try to follow this shall we?

Timeline 1: The "first" timeline, where things proceed much as they did in Trunks' timeline. Goku gets the heart virus, the Androids destroy everything, Gohan dies, and Trunks and Bulma make a time machine. Trunks uses this time machine to go back in time to...

Timeline 2: The first "corrected" timeline. Trunks returns the day Frieza attacked, killed him, and gave Goku his heart medication. From there, things are somewhat unclear, what we DO know is that there was no Cell in this timeline, as Trunks successfully destroyed the androids in that timeline, and returned to do so in his own back in Timeline 1. After doing so, he is jumped by the Cell of Timeline 1, who then uses the time machine to go further into the past. Since this would alter an already altered timeline (By going back before the alterations), the timeline splits again, creating...

Timeline 3: This is the timeline we know, that follows the main story of Dragonball Z. In this timeline, Cell came back before Trunks ever arrived, and hibernated until he could regrow to his imperfect form and begin his quest to absorb the androids. Then Trunk arrived and...

Wait, WHICH Trunks?

Cont...

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>>148333955
I want him to hug me... from behind.

>>148335611
>He's also mentioned in the anime.

No, he wasn't mentioned in DB Super

>>148335504
>Black traveled to the past and obtained Goku's body

Except the time rings were already established to only be capable of going into the future, numbnuts.

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>>148335534
>Cell told him that he already killed him once

>>148335601
Db-z.com

>>148335565
jokes on you those are Yardratians!

>>148335611

The simple explanation is that even if he destroyed the machine, whatever it was pumping into him was still in his body during his fight in the first movie.

Why was his normal SSJ hair color fucking blue? Come on, LSSJ has no magical green properties, that's why it was yellow and so was his aura in the 2nd movie, after he'd had 7 years to get that garbage out of his body.

>>148335633

See:
>>148333880

>>148335506
>And don't say "because of the time ring", because if that specific Zamasu was the one who became Black then he never would have come into possession of the time ring at all since he was destroyed by Beerus
It was because of the time Ring. Look at it this way, there's a universal clock. It's 10:30, Black and Zamasu are in the future bored as fuck, and Goku and whis are on their way to see if present Zamasu is going to kill Gowasu. Beerus destroys present Zamasu at 10:45, yet at this point, future Black and future Zamasu already have time rings, so they aren't affected.

Beerus destroyed Zamasu after future Zamasu already had a ring.

>inb4 zamasu doesn't have ring, black does
same shit dude


>thougut Herms took that right from the dialogue in the episode
He probably got confused and misinterpreted new information with pre-existing ones. It happens to everyone.

>>148335682
Broly has green ki in all his forms. Even as a baby when the ki formed a protective barrier around him and carried him off the doomed planet Vegeta.

>>148335565
That image is such bullshit and you know it.

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So, our boi Vegetto when?

>>148335733
All his appearances*

>>148335504
You can't travel to the past with timerings though. What you can do (as whis hypothesized), is go to the future and then use the super dragon balls there. Then you go back to the present.

I don't understand how Zamzam-Goku gets large powerups every time he gets beaten up, while Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks don't. Also, why are there so many different forms of sayian God? There's Rose, which only Zam has access to, and now there's whatever Trunks is.

>>148334145
>cheesy '80s japanese Rocky music with lyrics

Funi dub is better

I am shocked at how everyone seems to be taking this transformation in stride.

>>148335633

Cont...

So far, every Trunks has been spoken for. It cannot be the Trunks from Timeline 1, and his travels took him to Timeline 2 and back, and he was killed by Cell. It likewise couldn't be an adult Trunks from timeline 2, as the androids were destroyed in that timeline.

So who is the Trunks that appeared in this timeline? Based on his description of events, he must be from an exact copy of Timeline 1, but...why? Ignoring the question of why two DIFFERENT timelines time traveled to the same alternate timeline (In this case, Cell 1 and Trunks 4), why is there a second version of Timeline 1 (Hereafter referred to as Timeline 4)? Are there an infinite number of timelines that all proceed independently, but diverge when people make alterations like this? If so, that would mean an infinite number of Timeline 1's existed, all of which would eventually result in time travel, and even more split timelines. That wouldn't be too illogical, if it weren't for...

The Time Rings: When Gowasu showed Goku and co. the time rings, he explained that a new time ring appears when a new timeline is created. There were 4 green rings, which means that 4 timelines had been created. Consistent so far, except now we're left again to wonder how Timeline 4 was ever created. That there were a finite number of rings obviously means an infinite number of timelines, so why?

But, of course, that segues into the real problem of Zamasu and Black.

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>>148333955
Of course, he needs love.

>>148335774
He's god of creation so he knows how Sayian body works and hacked Zenkai using that knowledge.

>>148335782
nobody gave a shit about kaioshin unlocked gohan

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>>148335551
>at least he has a job to earn his living
Wageslave normie

>he's still the strongest non god ki user of the Z gang
As of now? Fuck no. Hell even Krillin is probably stronger than him.

>>148335733
>Broly destroyed the machine and his ki remained green
>>148335682

Broly's ki is green, his hair isn't. His hair was blue/green in M8 because his amulet and charms. Hell, even towards the end his hair started to look more yellow. animation error if anything.

>>148335805
>Purple hair

>>148335774
Black has Zamasu's ki which probably explains Rose.

>>148335774
They mentioned Zenkai in this episode kek

>>148333970
Hybrids clearly can't go blue. Neither Gohan, nor Trunks ever do that.

They do however both go some mystic route. Maybe it's something hybrids can do that pure bloods cannot.

>>148335714
BUT AGAIN, THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

If Black was the SAME Zamasu who fought Goku in the present, then that Zamasu would NEVER have come into possession of the time ring AT ALL. There would be no set of circumstances that would allow Zamasu to take the ring because in that timeline he gets destroyed by Beerus. It would have to be a different timeline.

>>148335862
They can since hybrids were used in the SSG ritual, one drop rule

>>148335797
only the silver ring is made when someone travels back, so there should be more

DBS time travel makes no sense

>>148335548

Fusion of their Signature Techniques

Get ready for the Final Galack Wave.

>>148335818
That's plausible. A supreme ruler of the universe having a trick to unlock potential is okay with me.

Trunks w/e this form is has no precedent. Yes saiyans get stronger from anger and getting damaged but he isn't even going in a linear path.

>>148335867
See:
>>148333880

>>148335823
>Wageslave normie
nice memes frog

>>148335867
Beerus doesn't understand the alternate timelines

Also Black has to exist. Otherwise trunks wouldn't have come back to the past in the first place.

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>>148335635
Calm down Mai, they'll be plenty of time for impregnation AFTER the autistic gay ningen hating immortal god is destroyed

So is Zeno the King of all Universes, even the alternate timeline ones? There's only one Zeno, right?

>>148335825
Broly's hair turns faded light green. And his hair spikes like hell in LSSJ form. Also other saiyans only lose their pupils temporarily, Broly loses his and they remain gone even when he's calm and not pumping ki everywhere when he uses LSSJ. Same with Trunks.

>>148335941
But that image agrees with me since it's postulating that Black comes from a different timeline.

>>148335977
There can't be one zeno, each timeline has to have one

>>148335977
yeah zeno seemed to imply pressing the button will summon him wherever and whenever.

>>148335977
Probably. Also this arc will probably end with Zeno ex Machina because there's no other explanation why they introduced that button.

is Zamasu autistic?

>>148336036
highly
he is his own best friend
no wonder you people like him

>>148336036
He's racist, masochist, autist and gay. He's what we all wish to be.

so they destroyed the super dragon balls in that timeline

what was the point when those things still exist in other timelines?

>>148335797

Cont...

We now know that Black is Zamasu, a Zamasu who fought Goku and was humiliated by him, sparking an even greater hatred for mortals, and a begrudged admiration for Goku's strength. He would then go on to Kill Gowasu, steal the time ring, and use it to grant himself Goku's body, and then travel to Trunks 4's timeline to wreak devastation.

But how is any of that possible?

Beerus was adamant that destroying Zamasu in the present would destroy the Black and Zamasu of the future, because the world of the Gods works differently than that of the mortals. The implication seemed to be that the realm of the Gods existed outside of time, so that there could be no such thing as a "past" Zamasu or "future" Zamasu, all weld have been so wrong. It's not like he didn't know Zamasu was abusing the Super Dragonballs and the Time Ring, so how could he and Whis (Who didn't correct Beerus and so must have agreed) get the outcome so wrong?

With no way of resolving that question, we turn to the next one; which Zamasu is Black?

We're now restricted to 4 timelines visa vi the time rings. Immediately we can eliminate Zamasu 4 as being Black, as he's the "real" Zamasu presently fighting everyone. We can also eliminate Zamasu 3, since that's the Zamasu Beerus destroyed, which while it may not have destroyed all Zamasu's it surely destroyed that one. That leaves us only with Zamasu 1 and Zamasu 2. Zamasu 1 cannot be it, as Goku was long dead in that timeline; there'd have been no occasion for the two to fight and trigger Zamasu's blood lust.

We're left then with Zamasu 2, which technically speaking IS possible. But for that to be the case, Timeline 2 would have had to proceed nearly identically to Timeline 3, even without Cell, at least enough that they could have withstood Majin Buu without Goku getting training in the Other World, and for their response to Beerus to lead to the same result.

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>>148336088

>>148334402
oh right, i really forgot about the stupid button

>>148336033
This. A literal deus ex machina button.

Goku is going to remember it, push the button, Zeno appears and unmakes Zamasu from the multiverse.

Future Trunks will continue to live in a crap shack timeline where people are constantly under threat from the next big bad that wants to annihilate earthlings. Also, reminder Future Trunks timeline is the true initial timeline that caused all kinds of spinoff time fuckery.

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I'm not understanding how Black is the ZAMASU that sparred with Goku. Is that not the same ZAMASU that got HAKAI'd? What am I missing?

Did Beerus and Goku go into a future timeline when they saved Gowasu? I thought they were main timeline.

>>148336036
Zamasu is literally 4chan incarnated

Gohan will go to the future to help trunks to calm down and control his rage + """new form"""
then he fucks off back to home

screencap this post


>>148336088
savage

>>148336168
That one is a plot hole

this has to be a zamasu who goku met at Zeno tournament, no other way since it has to be unaffected by trunks unlike the flashback they showed

>>148336168
Time ring, nigga. He ain't gotta explain shit.

We hand wave the logistics and shorthand to 'I exist outside the time space continuum' since nothing that happens in the past involves him anymore.

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>>148335963

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>>148335635
This.

>>148336168
I don't get it either, time travel is a mess any timie it's used in anything even if done well and this isn't even done well.

>>148336251
Why is his jacket made of such flimsy single ply toilet paper?

>>148336117
They don't work between timelines. There are no Dragon Balls in Trunks timeline - all namekians are dead and Super DB are destroyed. I don't get what they are fighting for anymore - even if they win, then all gods are dead all mortals outside Earth are dead. On Earth probably less than 100 humans are alive. Trunks and Mai should just use time machine and live happily in the main timeline leaving Black and Zamasu alone in their autistic reality. This would be win-win situation for everyone.

>>148336168
You know Zamasu could still time travel and be unaffected by the changes in past like Trunks did

>>148336231
this is funny how toei screwed it up, since toriyama went the easiest time travel route (split timelines)

>>148336166
>Also, reminder Future Trunks timeline is the true initial timeline that caused all kinds of spinoff time fuckery.
No it's not. Trunks isn't alive in the original timeline. Future Trunks(the one we see) lives in the third timeline.

>>148334798
Look up GT amvs on youtube.

>>148336119

But then there's a new problem.

Goku only went to meet Zamasu because Trunks came back in time to get their help fighting Black. So if that same event happened in Timeline 2, what Trunks was THAT? Clearly not Trunks 1, as he was killed by Cell. Trunks 2 is already in the timeline we're discussing, so not him. Trunks 3 isn't even an adult yet, nor would his future be terrorized by Black, and Trunks 4 went to Timeline 3, so just who the fuck came to Goku 2 for help with Black, triggering his fight with Zamasu?

There is literally no Timeline that exists that explains Black. It cannot be done. Every timeline that exists cannot have lead to the events that are happening. Black could ONLY be the Zamasu that Beerus destroyed, a notion rendered impossible by the fact that he was destroyed.

This plotline is impossible.

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>>148335774
>Trunks gets new form
>Doesn't regain his gains
Fuck whoever decided this scrawny BS forms. Only Super Sayian God Kaio Ken looks cool because Goku doesn't look like he went through starvation.

>>148335287
You forgot to add all the kaioushins he murdered + goku's past self.

I LOVE BEERUSSAMA

>>148333524
Trunks got mystic'd and for some asspull reason he got godki from Supreme Kai and when he tried to power up that much he couldn't go blue (because rage) so it stayed shitty like that with super saiyan maximum over maximum.

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>>148336251
That gif makes me feel funny

>>148336346
Fuck off furry

>>>/trash/

>>148336168
You're not missing anything, Toei doesn't understand anything about the concepts of time travel, parallel timelines and time loops so they wrote themselves into a hole. This would have made complete sense if they didn't have Beerus destroy present Zamasu, but they did, so it doesn't.

>>148336319
how so? in trunks timeline goku used instant transmission to beat freeza to earth and cell showed up natively without the time machine (he mentioned how he was gonna use the time machine)

>>148336168
>>148336222
It's explained in the episode. They are the same ZAMASU in the sense that Frieza arc Goku is the same as Future Trunks timeline Frieza arc Goku.

>>148336319
Aside from timelines we never witness, the Future Trunks timeline predates the show's main cast timeline. In all cases, our timeline is not how the universe was intended to unfold.

We will never know what the true untime fucked universe would look like though since there were already a wall of time rings in existence.

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>>148336331
It's the fucking jacket, I bet he would still look muscular under that shit.

>>148335635
>>148335963
>>148336235
>>148336251
>>148336373

Reminder that Future Mai is litarally 90 years old

>>148336298
>You know Zamasu could still time travel and be unaffected by the changes in past like Trunks did

That's not the point. That Zamasu shouldn't even EXIST if he's indeed Black.

>>148336325
>There is literally no Timeline that exists that explains Black. It cannot be done
it can, it's logically the timeline where they met in the zeno tournament (i.e. no future trunks shows up since black doesn't exist then)

we know kais will be at zeno tournament since they were there for u6 vs u7 tournament

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>>148336168

>>148336166
>They wouldn't have needed to go back to the past if Pilaf didn't use the dragon balls
>they wouldn't have needed to use the dragon balls if Gero didn't build the cyborgs
>Trunks killed the cyborgs
>his future ended up even more shit thanks to his time traveling
Gero got the final laugh

This place is filled with niggers.Lol, what's so confusing about the timelines?

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Is Chichi the only person to ever die a kissless non-virgin?

I wish they'd shown her putting up a little more of a fight, ala that Garlic fight in the first movie. Her trying to run with Goten was feels inducing though.

>>148336325
>Black could ONLY be the Zamasu that Beerus destroyed, a notion rendered impossible by the fact that he was destroyed.
He was destroyed after he had already acquired the time ring. It's not hard to understand. Black went back in time and created multiple realities, one of which spawned a 1:1 copy of his original timeline, which is where Trunks travels to and Beerus kills Zamasu in.

>>148336119

Somehow my third bit of text got screwed:

Beerus was adamant that destroying Zamasu in the present would destroy the Black and Zamasu of the future, because the world of the Gods works differently than that of the mortals. The implication seemed to be that the realm of the Gods existed outside of time, so that there could be no such thing as a "past" Zamasu or "future" Zamasu, but the present situation reveals that clearly is not the case. Even so, how could Beerus and Whis (Who didn't correct Beerus and so must have agreed) get the outcome so wrong? It's not like they didn't know that Zamasu was using the Time Ring and Super Dragonballs.

>>148336498
goku

>>148336502
Black literally can't go back in time.

>>148336485
Despite being physically weak, Gero and Ginyu are the true elder god villians of the entire mythos.

>>148336385
The timelines are exactly the same up until that point, which is the same in Black's case. The timeline is exactly the same up until the point where Beerus and co. learn about Zamasu being a murderer.

>>148336484
>>148333880

This

>>148336498
Goten didn't try to fight because he thought it was himself killing his own dad and then killing himself and his mother.

>>148336290
Trunks wants to play adam and eva with mai thats why.

I bet the Zeno button won't get used.

G-goku why didn't you use the button if you had it.

Oh um I forgot heheheh but beating black and Zamasu was more fun this way.

>>148336550
>The timeline is exactly the same up until the point where Beerus and co. learn about Zamasu being a murderer
Actually it has to be the point before future trunks arrive

>>148336290
couldn't the bring regular dragonballs to the future

>>148336353
>mystic'd
kys Zamasu

>>148336502
>Black went back in time

What part of "TIME RINGS CANNOT GO BACK IN TIME" do you not understand?

It's a plot hole no matter how you slice it.

>>148336484
Makes sense.
Even during the cell arc each time travel kinda created a new timeline.

>>148336484
But the timeline where Trunks warns everyone should be the timeline where Beerus kills Zamasu, not the timeline where Zamasu turns to Black.

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>>148336373
Same anon. Actually, Trunks always makes me feel funny.

>>148336423
Who cares? She has a young body now.

Anyone else find the fighting animation to be subpar? Every time Goku or some other character throws those tiny numerous ki blasts, it looks like an amateur has done it. It's honestly no better than DBZ, and that's late 80s-90s era animation. You think the Japs would have improved thanks to computers.

>>148336620
It's not going back in time.

It's returning to the present.

>>148336484
this needs to be edited to take out the zamasu and goku fight, this only happens because of future trunks

>>148336251
>time to impregnate mai.gif
Why are Goku and Gohan in there then?

>>148336484
This image explains everything perfectly, except for one thing. Goku never went farming after he fought Zamasu. THAT'S the only plothole in this arc. Black killed farmer Goku, Goku hasn't farmed for months, he was with Trunks the entire time after he fought Zamasu, so that measn Blakc went to the past before taking Goku's body.

>>148336462

But why would that timeline's Goku go to fight Zamasu? He only does it in our timeline because Trunks comes for help dealing with Black and Whis suspects a link between Black and Zamasu. But there is no possible Trunks to come and ask for help dealing with Black. No Trunks, no Zamasu fight, no Black.

Which Trunks came asking for help?

>>148335258
Do people really not see that he's carrying her like he carried her in that one episode with Goku hiding to go train with Whis and Vegeta?

>>148336648
Super is actually being handled by inexperienced interns.

>>148336423
Go back to Tumblr.

>>148333794
How about the future Trunks that went trough all that shit and got killed by Cell at the end.

Thank fuck for the manga, these plot holes won't be there

>>148336484
Makes no sense if thats the same goku.
Then what did whis and beerus do?
Also vegeta of that time should be strong enough to finish off black.

>>148336659
bukkake

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>>148336659
Trunks doesn't give a shit, anon.

>>148333890
I'd say Vegeta still has it better than Yamcha the true king of jobbers.

>>148336648
>thanks to computers
The respectable animators are disgusted with computer animation because it makes everything rigid and defeats the point of animating. To convey emotion with motion.

>>148336666
Lots of ways. Perhaps Zamasu is actually a fighter for universe 10 and they met there.

>>148336704

Manga isn't canon. It's just promotional material - literally just leaflet for anime.

>>148336704
this.

Manga will be 1:1 storyboard, no toei filler nonsense that convolutes everything it touches.

>>148336690
Not a room full a monkeys on a typewriter?

>>148336650
that wasn't his present
goku didn't met zamasu at that time yet

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>>148336666
>6666

>>148336711
unf

>>148336755
Anime is filled with filler and inconsistent bullshit.
Akira even works closer with toyotaro then with toei.

>>148336709
This is the toriyama future trunks plot hole, he tosses the timeline to the trash for the plot. SSB Vegeta would've beat black at that stage and goku would've used the dragon balls to be wished back to life even if Black traveled away from the timeline to escape vegeta.

>>148336777
>broly returns with garlic from the shadow realm
>there can be only one immortal+overpowered duo
>battle of the universe ensues

>>148336755
You being a permavirgin is canon

>>148336740
>caring about the opinion of some oldfags

Japan kids dont give a shit about it. You can blame capitalism for that.

>>148336650
And why would Black "return to the present"? What reason would he have for doing that?

>>148336441
Black is immune to changes in the timeline thanks to his ring. No matter what Beerus did to present Zamasu, he'll still exist as long as he has that. I guess the other Zamasu works the same way. He exists because he was already immortal when the one in the past was killed and still exists even though he shouldn't.

>>148336799
Anime is canon - it can't have filler. Everything in manga that isn't in anime is filler and should be disregarded

This Broly is crazy cool!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brRnLiJSQ9c

>>148334474
Comfy episodes of Goku training with Roshi again, but this time around Vegeta replaces Krillen

>>148336841
We must seize the means of animation

>>148336841
speak sense motherfucker

>>148336841
2chan cares though.
They really disgusted about the animation. The only thing that keeps them hyped is maixtrunks.

>>148336874
BUILD WALL

>>148336420
Bring back the old jacket and black T pls

>>148336867
You make no fucking sense.
Anime isnt even the original base source material. Toryiama script is
Toei can expand on that and add filler like purple vegeta,togama ginyu and kaioken ssblue.

>>148336867
>Anime is canon - it can't have filler.
Gonna need a source for that. Aside from bullshit that you're spouting, what we have official word on is that Toyble's manga is closer to Akira's storyboard than the anime is. Meaning whether or not it's canon, it tells the story more accurately.

OMG GUYS GOHAN IS GOING TO BE RELEVANT AGAIN

inb4 he unlocks some new form and ends the fight.

The most likely way this will end is Goku pushing that button the king of everything gave to him and summoning him.

>>148336484
But how would Goku fight Zamasu in Black's timeline? It was only because Beerus and Whis were investigating Zamasu because of Trunks' warning that Goku was allowed to set foot in Zamasu's realm at ALL.

>>148336874
>Dream match

Unless Buroli is left in his LSSJ state for like 50 years because the faggot has unlimited KI gains he will get oneshooted by Beerus.

>>148336964
>gohan
Huh? The gohan of FT timeline has been dead for years. And there are no dragonballs or gods in that timeline so death actually means something there.

>>148333880

Those time rings are for a completely separate universe.

>>148336933
>>148336935
Toriyama here. Anime is canon guys. Manga is only released to be used as custom printed toilet paper.

>>148336976
Its headcanon bullshit.
Dont bother.

>>148336985
Broly has been stuck inside the center of a star ever since he fought the final time, right?

And because saiyans are powered by injury, if he's not dead, he's at least godlike.

>>148336665
goku farms for work, so when nothing is going on chichi forces him

presumably this is after the zeno tournament.

>>148336976
That's the point. Goku fought Zamasu, who then turned into Black.

this will all make sense in the manga.

>>148334568
>Beerus said god killed in one timeline will die in all timelines
Wasn't he saying his power of GoD makes it so he can kill all timeliness versions of a person?

>>148335178

It's called digestion. A process that breaks down food.

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>>148337047
>Didn't eat or drink shit for like 10 years already
>Touched the sun
>had a hole near his heart

he dead.

>>148337096
Beerus is an idiot. He doesn't know what he is and is not capable of.

What happened to the old Kai?
I mean the Z-Sword was just petrified by Dabura.
>inb4 old Kai resurrects Piccolo
>lol we have Dragonballs again, it's all good

>>148337056
Keep telling yourself that

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>>148336964
>He thinks he's going to fight
>>148336188

>>148337056
The manga will probably use the 4th timeline created during the cell game.
Also if that theory of yours would be true then there would be 5 green rings. Not 4.

>>148337120
>implying broly needs to eat to live
He metabolizes fury. The only thing that reduces his fury is sleep. He cannot sleep inside a star. He's just going to be the reason the star goes super nova.

>>148337120
>Giga nigga

>>148337056
I know that, I'm asking HOW was Goku able to encounter Zamasu in that timeline? Mortals aren't even allowed to enter Kaioshin realms unless it's under extremely special circumstances, and the only reason Goku was able to encounter Zamasu in the timeline we've been following is because Beerus was investigating Zamasu because Trunks came to the past and warned them.

>>148336727
>Yamcha the true king of jobbers
Where did this meme come from? I just started db with super

>>148337147
See:
>>148333880

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Zamasu got goku's body from the 4th timeline guys.

>>148337197
>I started db with super
You have to go back. Back before even DBZ.

>>148337219
he already said he was from goku's timeline

Why did Goku job to Zamasu just because their body swapped? The Ginyu Arc already showed it isn't so easy to master a new body.

Moreover aren't powerlevels more bound to the soul? In the Buu arc Goku as ghost form was actually stronger without having a physical body.

Did Toriyama forget his own story? why the fuck do I still bother with this shit, of course I know Toriyama doesn't give a shit

>>148337227
>>148337197
yamcha isn't even a jobber though. he is fodder

he can't build up anyone.

>>148337219

No, he got Goku's body from a timeline that was wiped out when Beerus killed Zamasu.

>>148335114

I Think is this

FUTURE Zamasu wants to kill ningens because of Trunks changing history

Black Zamasu wants to kill ningens because of him getting BTFO by Goku

Still, i don't get it, how did Goku meet Black Zamasu if the reason they meet him was because of Trunks?

>>148336646
Oh fuck I forgot how god tier the vest was


Why does Trunks have hands down the best designs? And why does a purple jacket and black T work so well?

>>148337053
>presumably this is after the zeno tournament.
Nigga, drop this shit. Here's your fucking explanation:

Black Goku swaps bodies and massacres everyone. Then he travels into the future of an alternate timeline and finds Trunks. He then massacres everyone there and Trunks then travels to the present.

TRUNKS is the one who created the timeline where Beerus kills Zamasu(Black). Zamasu(Black) started in timeline 1, teleported to timeline 7(with Trunks), and Trunks form timeline 7 teleported to the past/preset which created timeline 8 which is a 1:1 copy of timeline 1 with original Zamasu(black) - who then gets killed by Beerus.

THATS what happens. Black meets Trunks, and from there on Trunks created the timeline where Black gets killed by Beerus.

Here's the problem:
The only reason why Zamasu(Black) swapped bodies is because he fought Goku, and the only reason Goku fought Zamasu(black) is because Trunks ran away from him. meaning Black originally came from somewhere, and his time ring royally fucked up the multiverse and now he's a walking paradox existing in a timeline that was only created because it created him.

it's done.

>>148337214
it's stupid, there are infinite timelines, it's an eternal loop.

>the jobbing prince's son gets to become the Legendary Super Saiyan instead of the MC's son

fuck this shit show, dropped.

>>148334381

>SSB vegeta would have rekt him

No proof. He fought Vegeta as base Black and still tanked him. SSB has been downgraded compared to Red.

>Goku would still be alive in the afterlife

No. You need your body. Zamasu has it. PLUS Zamasu killed EVERY god. There's noone to give him his body.

>Goku would have met with Whis

No. Goku doesn't think about that shit and noone else met Zamasu prior. Whis didn't care until Zamasu killed Gowasu either.

>they would find U10 has no Kaioshin

But it did. It had Zamasu and Gowasu with Supreme Kai still about until Trunks killed Dabura. Black showed up right after. Plus Zamasu killed every Kai other than him. Across their individual multiverse as well since we learned that the 'future' is more of a multiverse seperated by a time shift.

>Goku and co are still alive in the afterlife

No. They are dead. Only Gohan and Trunks were alive post Androids killing Piccolo.

>they still have the New Namek dragonballs

Which noone other than King Kai knew the location of and they can't reach the afterlife to ask him. Especially since King Kai said during the Cell saga regarding the events that he monitors an entire quarter of space and doesnt have time for petty Earth issues.

>any point Kaiosama could have talked to Trunks

Who wouldn't know who it was or anything and by that point there would be no chance of reaching New Namek when Bulma's efforts were 300% on the time machine.

There's actually no plot holes for once. You are just a mong.

>>148336484
This really pisses me off, because this is not how time travel works in DBZ. Stable time loops are a notable feature of most time travel stories, but it was never so in DBZ. This simply shouldn't work.

Whoever writer thought up this story is a fucking retard.

>>148337214
Green time rings represent the creation of alternate timelines. Thus, the number of green rings indicate how many people have traveled into the past. A new ring is created whenever another person modifies the past.-gowasu

The silver rings doesnt work like the green ones.

>>148335373
It's Vegitos signature move.

>>148337316
true
yeah since trunks messed up the timespace

>the super dragon balls were destroyed after being used by only two different people

are we back to having the earth balls as the main plot device or is the namesake only symbolic now

>>148336423
And reminder that Trunks has a mommy/older women fetish, you're only fueling his erection more

>>148337147

Those rings are for Zamasu's universe. There's no reason time travel in one universe would create a new timeline in a completely unrelated universe.

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>>148337274
>Comparing a technique of a literally who to a wish made from an omnipotent cosmo-dragon

Lmaoing at your life.

Its like comparing Guldo to Hit

>>148337343
Silver ring is for their timeline. So there're 5 timelines - the one where they live (silver ring) and 4 alternative timelines (4 green rings)

>>148333524
You people need to stop watching this shit, even the videogames have better original storylines and characters designs

>>148336902
>2ch

like they care about the opinion from people in a imageboard like 2ch or 4ch. And still, they keep watching this pile of shit.

>>148336769
>monkeys using typewriters to animate

That actually explains everything.