Trunks timeline

Is nobody going to mention how Goku blasted Zamasu's head off?

>>148311506
Nice English loser.

Anyway "2nd Trunks" is the original Prime Trunks.

MAFUBA

>>148311506
The real question is:
WHEN WILL TOEI LEARN HOW TO FUCKING DRAW TRUNKS' HAIR?
THEY'RE LITERALLY JUST DRAWING A BUNCH OF BANANAS.

>>148311747
At least I speak more then two languages fucktard.

>>148311837
Actually I know Japanese.

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>>148311506
short answer: it just works

>>148311845
Ok Ken-sama

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all he needs is to learn to control his god ki and trunks will be a monster than he already is

>>148311506
>Dragonball online is though.
no it isn't canon you dumb fuck.
Just because Toriyama worked on it doesn't make it canon to other mediums and continuities.

>>148311892
>all he needs is to learn to control his legendary god ki
FIFY

>>148311506
if they showed Black killing Videl I would have lost it.

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Fucking frog.
English version here.

>>148311868

>>148311943
>The Cell Games begin in a different timeline

??
What?

>>148311917
Akira created the story outline of dbo just like he is doing for super.
Super is as much canon as dbo faggot.

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>>148311892

>>148312000
No thats the timeline that is parallel to the current timeline but without a trunks participating in the cell games since he got killed in his timeline when he went back for the blueprints. Cant you read you illiterate cunt?

>>148312010
explain gohan then

>>148312000
Nah, there's two different universes where it happens.
One where Trunks was there and one where he wasn't on account of Trunks already being killed by a version of Cell.

>>148312005
except the Super Anime is a continuity of the Anime. They share the same medium.
The manga also is arguably a continuation of the manga continuity/timeline.
A Korean MMO will never EVER be canon when we're talking about the manga/anime storyline you dumb fuck until they actually show up.
Not to mention in the 25 year anniversary Shonen Jump Dragon Ball timeline article they completely omitted DBO. (BECAUSE IT'S A FUCKING VIDEO GAME)

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>>148312054
didn't train lost that juice

>>148311506
Thanks for poorly explaining a plot point in a manga that ended over 20 years ago

>>148312044
>>148312077
...In the timeline there Trunks is killed there would be absolutely no need for the Cell games. No would there be a Cell. There's 4 Cells. We know what happened to all of them. There is no second Cell games.
Why do I feel like the only one who actually understands the timelines? At least as best as they can be understood with the conflicting information given.

>>148311506
>trunks got killed.
>Since that timeline contains a living goku we can speculate thats the one zamasu got his body from

But we saw in the flashback that this Goku was a farmer which means Trunks is nowhere the age he got killed.

>>148312141
No dude.
Basically the events of Universe 1 played out the exact same way in universe 4 just without Trunks.
So Cell went back to the past.
Trunks saved everyone from frieza and gave Goku the cure to the Virus.
Went back home but never returned to that timeline.

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>>148312085
Not him but then how we gonna make sense of this?
Why didnt this trunks finish his business to get rid of the androids.

>>148312211
That's literally impossible, it takes years for Cell to grow. That's why Cell didn't kill Trunks until Trunks was an adult, because he was still developing in the lab. By the time this Cell games would happen in the alternate universe, everyone would already be an adult.

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>>148312141
>Why do I feel like the only one who actually understands the timelines?
You going against what the official databook says? Also how would you explain there being another goku whobis alive who isnt others. Since if the events play out normally they all end up with the androids taking over the world and goky dying from a heart virus.

>>148312299
I can't ready your badly written post anon.

>>148312235
Anon, the Cell that started the Cell games in universe 4 is the same Cell that went back to the past but because he killed Trunks in Universe 3 he created a reality where that universe's Trunks didn't return to the previous universe which would have been 4 in this case.
The baby cell in Universe 4 doesn't matter.

What's not to get?

>>148312339
Why the fuck are you purposely mismatching the Universe names with whats labeled in the picture? If the "Universe 1" you said >>148312211 is History 1 then we already know what happened with the Cell Games in that. That's what the anime is about. Could you PLEASE be consistent so I know what you're talking about?

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>>148312211
>Basically the events of Universe 1 played out the exact same way in universe 4
Universes and timelines are different in DB, also androids were killed with the remote in the unknow time-line, so there will be no Perfect Cell. OP image is bullshit, use this instead

>>148312306
What the analphabetical anon meant is that it makes sense that there is a timeline where this events played out. if our main timeline was the only one who was safed by trunks that would mean there would be no other gokus.

>>148312406
That's not true at all.

Only dragonball fans could be so fucking stupid whether its power level debates or timeline debates. Holy shit you people never fail to suprise me at how low you will go.

>>148312403
Nope they werent killed.
Krillin and vegeta end up bottling it just like in our main timeline.
Also that from the official databook.

>>148312478
What the fuck does bottling it mean.

>>148312403
Your shit makes even less sense.

>>148312456
I swear I'm the only guy on /a/ who gets the timelines and gets that dead Trunks is the original Trunks.
I don't think even Toriyama gets it.

Zamasu and Black are way too entertaining for me to be pleased when they're inevitably killed.

>>148312500
Vegeta letting cell absorb 18 and krillin not using the remote.

>>148312533
Then how come cell timeline had a trunks who went to his time to kill of frieza and cold? See>>148312222
You know jackshit thats what you know

>>148312555
Cell wasn't there to absorb anyone in any other timelines. He was still in the lab growing in the past timeline, he was just waking up in one future timeline, and in the other future timeline he killed Trunks and went back to the TV timeline. That's all 4 Cells.

>>148312403
>Universes and timelines are different in DB
My bad, I go on /v/ and /vp/ a lot so I've gotten used to using them interchangeably. In any case the androids were only deactivated in history 3, the timeline Cell comes from. So perfect Cell is possible in histories 1 and 4. 4 essentially being history 1 just without the presence of Trunks.

>>148312589
>Then how come cell timeline had a trunks who went to his time to kill of frieza and cold?

I don't want to argue with someone who can't speak English. Talk to somebody else.

>>148312591
Other cell/ also timeline 4 still had the androids since it plays out similar to the tv timeline but wihout trunks being psrt of the cell games. Whats so hard to get.

>>148312625
No, Perfect Cell is NOT possible in history 4 because if History is a "past" timeline then Cell still needs 17 years to grow in a lab and there is no Cell bured in the ground in that timeline too and that would make 4 timelines and 5 Cells which is impossible.

>>148312637
Lol not him but just this page alone>>148312222
Debunks your theory of trunks 2 bring the main trunks. Stay salty fuckboi you got exposed haha.

>>148312675
Yes it had the Androids but timeline 4 did not have a functional Cell. The Cell that went back in time to sleep in the ground arrived in History 1, not history 4, so the only Cell in history 4 was a baby in the lab.

Timelines do copy Cells and make clones. They all just move around. There are 4 timelines, and there are 4 Cells. Not 5 Cells.

>>148312398
>Could you PLEASE be consistent so I know what you're talking about?
Did it ever occur to you that YOU'RE the problem here?

Cell killing Trunks and going back literally created two timelines. One where the anime happened and one where the anime happened without Trunks being there on account of him being dead.
What exactly are you not getting here?

The fact that Cell is there?
The fact that Trunks isn't?

>>148312751
>Yes it had the Androids but timeline 4 did not have a functional Cell.
Except it did.
Think of it this way. When Cell went back he literally fractured into two possibilities.

>>148312752
You're right, Cell going back did make two timelines.
It didn't make two PAST timelines though, that's impossible. That would mean there's THREE past timelines since Trunks made one first.

>>148312456
I agree with you. I don't think Toriyama himself gave that much thought either it's just stupid retards like OP that tries to find a meaning for their existence.

>>148312533
What a special snowflake are you.

>>148312791
>When Cell went back he literally fractured into two possibilities

Oh that's the biggest fucking headcannon Ive ever heard, and like I said in >>148312799 that would there'd have to be 3 past timelines because Cell went back in time before Trunks original trip.

>>148311943
Thx anon why the fuck would someone post something in french the fuck.
Its pretty clear though. So I guess zamasu stole goku's body in timeline 4.

>>148312825
>What a special snowflake are you.

It's called having a brain. If that makes me a "special snowflake" then sure whatever.

>>148312855
A brain that doesn't function well since you dont understand it. Faggot

>>148312833
>because Cell went back in time before Trunks original trip.
Where are you even getting this from?
Is that why you can't understand this?

>>148312927
I do understand it. Cut me a break. When Cell went back into the past he split into two and made ANOTHER timeline where Trunks didn't come back again? Why? When has traveling back into the past been ever been shown to 'fracture' you into two different possibilities? That's never happened with Trunks.

>>148312977
In english ?
I dont understand spics

>>148312974
>Where are you even getting this from?

That's literally what happened you idiot. Trunks went back in time, then went back to his own time, then Cell killed him, stole his time machine, and went back in time a year BEFORE Trunks did. Because the settings changed, this made another alternate history. That's how it's been explained to work.

>>148313019
Here it is in English.
Cell's trip into the past didn't make two different Cells. One trip kept the same Cell. That's how time travel has always been shown to work in Dragonball and that's how it always will be.

>>148313023
You do know there are more timelines?
The ones showed here only show where main future trunks and main cell do their stuff.

>>148313083
I said before I don't want to talk to somebody who can't speak English.

>>148313059
>Cell's trip into the past didn't make two different Cells.
You do realise that him killing Trunks made an alternate timeline where Trunks' wasn't present for the events of the anime right?

In other words everything occurred the same way in timeline 4 as it did in the anime with Trunks returning being the fracture point as it doesn't happen in one timeline.

Which also means that there were at one point two fully grown Cells. One in timeline 4 and one in timeline 1.

>>148313103
Wow are you fucking retarded spics?
Just because you dont understand english you think you are right. Gtfo outta here faggot.

>>148313177
>You do realise that him killing Trunks made an alternate timeline where Trunks' wasn't present for the events of the anime right?

That's not consistent with how time travel has been shown to work. Anything that happens to Trunks in the future will not change the past.
Try again.

>>148313103
His english is understandable you just being a stupid faggot about it. Also your headcanon makes no sense.

>>148313223
It makes infinitely more sense than his. He's literally making tons of shit up every step of the way.
My timeline theory is like 1% headcanon and his is like 90% headcanon.

>>148313214
>Will not change the past
Correct
But the thing is its not the past thats being changed but the fucking future you stupid spics.

>>148313270
I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to someone hopefully less retarded.

>>148313256
He is using official sources and you using some broken translated spics bullshit.
Try again faggot.

>>148313256
Coming from someone that believes in a fifth timeline.

>>148313304
The only "spic bullshit" I'm using for the timelines is the numbering for the sake of consistency. That's it.

>>148313310
Absolutely not. There's four.

>>148313334
>Absolutely not. There's four.
And you're having difficulties understanding the fourth.

>>148313214
Wow no wonder you dont get it.
You dont even understand english.

>>148313359
I'm really not. You are, you're literally having to make things up about Cell splitting into two and the Cells future actions altering the past to explain it. I don't have to do that.

>>148313394
I thought the frog op had shit english but damn spics yours is straight up garbage.

>>148313388
>>148313438
Okay, I get it, you're French or Mexican or something and you're mad because I insulted your English in >>148311747
You can stop now.

>>148313455
The fuck are you talking I am not frog op.
You are the spics.

holy crap, so many of you not understanding basic time travel

>>148313492
The way you keep going on about spics it's pretty obvious you're mad I insulted your English.
>the fuck are you talking I am not frog
Nice English loser.

>>148313394
Anon.
Cell altered the events of timeline 1 FROM timeline 3 by killing a version of Future Trunks that was meant to return to the past. That's how timeline 4 was made.

It's literally a future where Trunks arrived once and only once.

>>148313516
DB time travel isn't basic. Basic time travel would be a lot simpler.

>>148313533
That's not how it works. It has never worked that way. The only way to make an alternate timeline is by using the time machine. THAT'S IT.

>>148313525
Frog=french
Nice try spics.

>>148313562
>The only way to make an alternate timeline is by using the time machine.
And it never occurred to you that Trunks went back in a time machine did it.

>>148313562
>alternate timeline is by using the time machine. THAT'S IT.
But thats the whole point of this shit and you still manage to not understand it.

>>148313590
Trunks going back in time made timeline 4, going by the numbering system of the OP picture.
Cell killed Trunks and went to timeline 1. He did not go to timeline 4. He did not split into two and go to timelines 1 and 4 at the same time. Can you not grasp this?

>>148313562
>The only way to make an alternate timeline is by using the time machine. THAT'S IT.
You mean like Trunks did when he went back right?
But instead it's not the fact that he went back but the fact that he didn't that made a new timeline.

Which is why 4 is placed first. Technically it's the Prime version of the anime universe.

>>148313659
This is definitely not english.

>>148313675
>Which is why 4 is placed first. Technically it's the Prime version of the anime universe.

That's impossible because 4 is a past timeline that was affected by the future. A past timeline affected by the future can't have come first. The future had to have happened first.

>>148313659
>Cell killed Trunks and went to timeline 1.
Which also created timeline 4 in which the Trunks that died didn't return.

How are you not grasping this? Trunks returning was the catalyst that caused 4 to happen.

>>148313737
>Which also created timeline 4
No stupid, Trunks made timeline 4 when he went back into the past to deliver the heart medicine. Then he went back to 3 and got killed. Nothing else affected 4. Trunks going back in time was the catalyst that caused 4 to happen. What is wrong with you?

>>148313714
Maybe the french version makes It too unclear for you.see >>148311943 for the english one.

>>148313808
Maybe your stupid fucking infant head makes it unclear for you but 4 and 1 are "past" timelines and 2 and 3 go into the future.

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Time-lines don't make sense to me, this is what I can understand, but I don't get how can exist a timeline with Cell games but no Trunks?

>>148313864
It can't. The OPs picture is some stupid book editors trying to make sense of something without thinking it through.

>>148313841
Yeah so?
Whats your problem with the offical databook?
Inbred spics.

>>148313885
>Stupid editors book
Translated daizenchuu which is the official source.
Not like your headcanon crap.

>>148313931
Is this like some sort of French pride thing where you think your stupid databook has to be right because it was made into French?
I just explained to you what the problem is. You said in >>148313675 that 4 is the Prime timeline but if you actually looked at the picture you would see that 2 and 3 are the future timelines where they needed a time machine because they didn't have help from the future. The disaster future must have happened first or else there would be no need to go back into the past. Thus either 2 or 3 is the prime timeline. Even an elementary schooler could understand that.

>>148313992
It's officially written by people dumber than elementary students.

>>148313801
You're over complicating things, possibly due to a lack of understanding.

Now get this, Trunks created timeline 1 because he delivered the medicine and then returned to 2. 3 was created when version of Trunks went back and shut down the androids. In this timeline Cell killed Trunks and returned to 1. But the version of Trunks from 2 returned to timeline 1 and the same was meant to happen for timeline 4 but that Trunks was killed by Cell in timeline 3.

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You fags are both wrong. There only 3 timelines. A 4th never existed.

>>148311892
Was this supossed to be SSJ2?

Didn't he already achieve SSJ2 before? I was expecting him go to level 3 in this scene.

>>148314092
>3 was created when version of Trunks went back and shut down the androids.

What version of Trunks? There is no Trunks that could have existed if Trunks 2 came first.

>>148314103
English or Nihongo bitch. Your filth isn't welcome.

>>148314103
That's impossible because the Trunks that got killed by Cell had gone to the past and that was a different Trunks than one we all saw, so he must have gone to a 4th timeline.

>>148314131
I give up, you're never going to get it.
I suggest you never take part in a timeline discussion again anon. Especially in regards to Dragonball.

This just isn't for you.

>>148314056
>french pride I am not even op you dickhead. I am the one who posted the english scan.>>148311943
And also the one who proofed you wrong on trunks who died being the main trunks.>>148312222

>>148314184
You're the one who conveniently left out what version of Trunks and said "when version of Trunks" because you realized this Trunks would have literally popped into existence out of nowhere.

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>>148314150
>>148314172
Alright but the japanese version also agrees on having three timelines only hahaha. Btfo by a spics feels bad huh?

>>148314193
If that picture was accurate that would mean Future Trunks actually went into timeline 3, not timeline 1, to defeat Frieza and deliver the medicine. Do you realize how dumb that is? We followed Future Trunks, we know he didn't go into timeline 3.

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>>148314092
I think I understand now

>>148314301
This is horribly made.

You should start it off from a single point of history.

>>148314338
That single point should probably be the creation of the time machine itself seeing as that's the catalyst for this whole adventure.

>>148314172

The problem is that there both has to be a fourth timeline but it should also be impossible for Cell from that fourth timeline to travel back to the prime timeline. The Trunks from timeline 4 traveled back to timeline 3 and warned about the androids, so his time machine should have only been capable of traveling between those two timelines. When Cell kills Trunks4 he somehow skips over timelines 3 and 2 and lands in timeline 1.

>>148314280

There are 3 trunks.
Your problem is that you only think there are 2. Also thats the manga it doesnt get more accurate than that.

>>148314393
Cell DIDN'T travel from the fourth timeline. He traveled from the third. Going by the OP numbering.

>>148314398
No, there's FOUR Trunks. Two of them are alive, one of them is dead, the other who knows.

Are we just gonna ignore the fact that a cholo knows more about dragonball then you muricanfags?
3 timelines only baby not more.

>>148314456
If there's 3 timelines that means 2 Future Trunks traveled to the same 1 past timeline to do the same thing. But they didn't overlap.

>>148314456
No one cares about your spic shit.

>>148314393
Cell went back in time a year before Trunks created the new time line, in theory the Cell with the time machine should have being in all of the time-lines.

>>148314444
Who is the 4th trunks?
1 got killed by cell
2 killed king cold and frieza in cell's timeline
3 is our current trunks
4?

>>148314444

He couldn't come from the third though. The third timeline is a timeline where Trunks warned everyone about the androids ahead of time and they got btfo, so Bulma never built a time machine. There could have been a Cell there but he would have been stuck.

>>148314508
The 4th Trunks is the baby Trunks that Trunks 1 would have met if he stuck long enough.

>>148314486
Except that the japanese only have 3 timelines too only the butchered unfaithful murican and european guidebook have 4 timelines.
4th timeline doesnt even make sense why is there a cell game?

>>148314504
Not quite. He couldn't come back to 2 and 3 because the time machine didn't exist at all in those timelines until they were made.

>>148314544
Dude that baby trunks is trunks 2 who gets killed by cell..

>>148314522
I said we're going by the OP numbers
By the OP picture numbering, the "third" timeline is a timeline where everyone got killed by the Androids.
In the OP picture theyre numbered 4, 1, 2 and then 3. Why? I dunno. But for the sake of consistency that's what Im going by.

>>148312054

Women make weak legs. He got laid.

Trunks is still a virgin

>>148314597
...That would mean your Trunks 1 and 2 in >>148314508 are the same person.

>>148314550
>4th timeline doesnt even make sense why is there a cell game?
Because Trunks going back created a timeline in which he didn't on account of being dead.

>>148314618
This. After you hit 30 you turn into a wizard. In trunks case legendary half breed ssj.

>>148311506
>come to /a/ to look for a proper explanation of the last episode
>there's one but there's a shitty english OP that thinks Online is canon
>fails to mention the main Trunks

>>148314643
>Because Trunks going back created a timeline in which he didn't

Do you even read the crap you type?

>>148314658
The retards are in full force tonight

>>148314612
I posted the english version>>148311943
Op was a stupod frog eater.

>>148314697
....The number is still the same as in the OP picture. 4, 1, 2, 3.

>>148314658
Except he didnt faggot.

>>148314659
Did you?
Because that's exactly what happened. The Trunks of timeline 3 SHOULD have gone back to timeline 1 but he didn't seeing as he was dead.
That created timeline 4 which is just the anime without Trunks. In other words that's technically the main timeline.

>>148314727
Yeah well ots from the official guide book but the engkish one.

>Goku using Mafuba

>>148314784
The Trunks of timeline 3 NEVER went to timeline 1 in the first place numbnuts. He went to timeline 4. The Trunks of timeline 2 is the one that went to 1.

>>148314612

Changing the numbering is irrelevant. Cell should still have been incapable of traveling to the timeline he did. Obviously it happened for plot convenience but when they try to explain shit like this and they do it wrong it just muddies things up.

>>148314844
It's not irrelevant because I have no idea what timeline you're talking about now.
Rather than saying the third timeline or whatever, could you put it a different way?

>>148314633
No. Trunks who killed cold and frieza is not the one who grew in cell's timeline that got killed.

>>148311943
So, using this(I still dont think h4 is necesary and you can even argue that pic is not valid anymore since Babidi and Dabra did come to Earth in a history that isnt 1),

How can the time ring not affect Black Goku's Zamasu since he's supposed to be from h1 yet that one was killed before he got a chance to get the ring?
From what timeline is the Goku that Black Goku killed? The only one I see possible is h4 and that has only been mentioned in guides, not the show. If that were the case, they should clarify it.

>>148314904
You said "2 killed king cold and frieza in cell's timeline."

You are aware that Cell's timeline is a future disaster timeline where the Androids killed everyone right? If Trunks went there than that future wouldn't have happened in the first place. And how could there be two Future Trunks in the same timeline? What timeline did the Trunks who killed Frieza in Cells timeline come from?

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>>148314550
>4th timeline doesnt even make sense why is there a cell game?
Trunks went back in time to give Goku medicine and warn everybody about the androids, then he returned to his own timeline, this happened in two different timelines (main timeline for the show and Cell timeline). Back in the future one of those Trunks trained and then returned to the main timeline, while the other Trunks got killed by Cell and never returned to the other past timeline.

Cell went back in time to a time a year before the one Trunks have set in the time machine, appearing in two timelines, one where Trunks will comeback and another wher Trunks will not come back (because he killed that Trunks). Vegeta and Krillin went full-retard in both timelines and Cell created the Cell games in 2 different timelines, one with Trunks and one without Trunks.

>>148314993
>From what timeline is the Goku that Black Goku killed?
4.
Everything in that timeline played out in the exact same way just without Trunks meaning that Goku would eventually be revived and beat Majin Buu.

>>148314747
Where did he mention main Trunks? He doesnt fit any of the descriptions.

>>148315043
There's so much wrong with this post.

>>148315050
Ok, it's bad writing then.
What about the other question?

>>148311506
All this timeline bullcrap is making my head hurt.

>>148315098
Dont listen to >>148315050
He's an idiot.

>>148315032
See this>>148312222
Couldnt have been the same trunks since he was a baby at the time. Its a total dofferent trunks. I am going with what dbo said. This trunks didnt finish his job because he got punished for time travelling and became time patrol trunks. He is the first trunks to do start it all. His timeline is not shown int any databook.
Since the data book focus on our main trunks and main cell.

>>148315121
It's not that confusing. All these people like >>148315043 and >>148315050 keep overcomplicating it and making shit up.

>>148315145
>I am going with what dbo said.

Well don't you shithead, it doesn't add up.

>>148315155
Nah you the one wrong with your spics english.

>>148315155
>making shit up
You do realise they're only posting what has been stated and makes sense right?
You on the other hand have been doing nothing but injecting your headcanon in as fact just because you can't understand the current conversation.

This shouldn't be as complex as you're making it but you're insisting that things did and didn't happen.

>>148315188
What is it with you and your obsession with spics and your inability to grasp what happened in what timeline?

>>148314875

I honestly have no idea either. I'll come back when I can coherently explain it.

>>148315124
How is he wrong?

>>148315175
Ok so if we go with the manga and guide book alone. Then there is a fucking plot hole.

>>148311506
>Jellybean language thread survives this long

Dragon Ball/Super threads confirmed to be /v/tards.

>>148315220
I can coherently explain it right now.

The problem is >>148315218 will just not fucking let go of that fucking line where Cell, WHO CAME FROM THE FUTURE, says he was there for Trunks killing Frieza when that's impossible. It's a plothole that should be ignored but they just won't let it go so they have to make up all these things to try to explain it. It makes so much more sense if you just ignore it.

>>148315155
Yeah,that's what I meant by "bullcrap".People in this thread complicating things, having miscommunication, and being conceited.I just end up not understanding a single word they're saying.

>>148315098
I have no idea why the time ring worked in all honesty because Beerus should have destroyed Zamasu before he put it on technically but I suppose it happened in Zamasu's personal past before Beerus was involved so maybe it's an eye of the storm kind of deal?

>>148315224
Timeline 4, aka the first column in the OP picture, didn't have a Cell games. That would be impossible. It's wrong. They just keep insisting its right because its "official."

>>148315226
Finally someone figured it all out.
There is a fucking plot hole see>>148312222
Where does this trunks even come from? Cant be the same as cell killed since at that time he was still an infant.
Toryiama is a hack and all you virgins trying to make sense to this bullcrap should br ashamed.

>>148315312
>didn't have a Cell games. That would be impossible.
How can it not have a Cell games if Cell was there?

>>148315334
Like I said in >>148315270
Just ignore it.
Toriyama made a mistake. It happens. He didn't think about it carefully enough. He messed up. What else is new?

>>148315312
English guidebook has it too>>148311943 I am going with that.

Don't forget the timeline where bardock didn't go back in time, the timeline where Goku didn't travel back in time and met master mutaito, and the timeline where krillin, Yamcha, tien, etc didn't travel back in time to fight those two saiyans on planet vegeta. Yes I know they were filler but that still happened.

>>148315312
Why not though? It could have been held by the Cell who matured in Gero's lab far into that timeline's future,since "History 3"'s Trunks never learnt about him or destroyed him.

>>148315362
Its a plothole end of. So all of you fags trying to make sense can stfu.

>>148315355
Cell wasn't there. Well, he was there, but only as a baby. The only fullgrown capable of a Cells game came from future timelines.

One was killed by Gohan in the Cells game. The other was killed by Trunks. We saw both happen.
There are no other Cells that had the opportunity to have a Cells game. Even if we assume baby Cell was ignored for 17 years and grew up he still wouldnt have the Cell games. How could he?

>>148315386
Its the same fucking (wrong) guidebook put into another languge.

>>148315334
Its not a plothole since toryiama said that trunks is time patrol trunks thats why he couldnt finish his business.

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>>148315390
>canon filler

>>148315413
Just stop replying to him.
Despite the fact that a fourth timeline needs to exist in order for the current events to happen he won't except more than three.

>>148315472
There's people that consider Super canon.

>>148315413
see
>>148315443

The Cells capable of a Games died. We saw them die.
One of the baby Cell died. We saw it die. Krillin killed it.
The other baby Cell we never see, but he needed 17ish years to grow. By that time there's either nobody to have the Cell games with or the Androids would already be long dead.

>>148315413
Ignore
>>148315475
Like i said before he's an idiot. There's four timelines.

I actually understand of all of the time-lines works without any plot-hole. Its pretty easy
Toriyama is a Hack__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

>>148315475
k

>>148315547
Way to go moron.

>>148315443
Except that both you fucktards are wrong.
Japanese only have 3 timeline. See>>148314279
Thats the true and only official source.
No wonder you fags can make sense of your headcanon and butchered translated guidebooks.
But the spics know fuck all about dragonball. More then muricans and eurofags.

>>148315560
Thanks,anon.Love ya.

>>148315546
Thank you

>>148315580
murrican is the lowest possible level of knowledge about dragon ball a person can achieve. It's like filipino for the english language.

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@148315495
>wanting a (you) for "Super isn't canon"

>>148315539
>4 timelines.
Japanese official says there is 3.

>>148315546
He is a hack but as long as you ignore that shit about future Cell being able to get cells from a Trunks that shouldn't exist it can all work together with just a tiny bit of headcanon rather than piles of it like everyone else is trying to put together to explain these "official" guidebooks.

WILL YOU FADDOTS STOP ARHUING OVER TIMELINES SHIT!

>>148315670
I dont. It just isnt.
But if Super is canon so is DBZ filler since Super references it.

>>148315693
Japanese says there are 3 end of murifag. No 4th bullshit timeline.

>>148315580
You do realise that Zamasu couldn't have become Black without a fourth timeline right?
If we take out the fourth one that would leave us with one current living Goku in timeline 1 that we're currently following. In 2 and 3 Goku is just plain dead. They can't be Black.

Without that fourth timeline that would mean that Goku 1 is Goku Black. But that can't happen because we're currently following that version of Goku and nothing has happened to him yet.
Which is where the fourth timeline comes into play, we now have a perfectly fine and healthy Goku that was revived during the Buu saga who is ripe for the body swap.

Any how you look at it a fourth one needs to exist.

>>148315629
3 timelines not 4 like the stupid muricucks think it is.

>>148315734
Actually you could make 3 work if you say that, uh...when Trunks returned to his own time, he split into two and made two future timelines at once, and in one he got killed by Cell and in the other he didn't for...some reason...

>>148315734
>>148315791
Super retcons the 3 timelines.
It's canon that there's 4 now.

>>148315782
Dragonball super aint canon simple as that. Pile of plothole bullshit that was made up to cash in on fags like you.
Japanese say 3 end off.

>>148312044
>>148312838
>>148315050
>>148312141
>>148312211
>>148312299
Okay

This is the part that doesn't make sense.

Universe 4.

If Trunks was able to get the schematics for the remotes, and then go to the FUTURE and use them, that means that they were used in the past.

How do I know?

This Trunks(H3) was killed by Imperfect Cell, which means he wasn't stronger than Imperfect Cell, which means he went back to the future with the remote prior to needing to Train to beat cell. Which heavily implies that they didn't even know about cell.

Now would Trunks leave for the future with the remote but not use it in the past? Of course not.

In Universe 4 there are no androids for Cell to absorb, as a result there is no Cell Games (unless you mean Cell games with imperfect cell).

Secondly, you got a bigger issue. Where did the Cell in Universe 4 come from?

In U2, Cell had matured over time, killed by Trunks

In U1, Cell was destroyed by Krillin

U3's Cell was defeated by Gohan in U1.

So that leaves a few questions

* Where did the Cell that was in U4 come from since it wasn't far enough along in the story for him to have naturally matured?

* What is the fate of this U4, no Cell games, no ascended SSJ universe?

>>148315825
>Super
>CANON
not with all the plotholes no thanknyou murifag now fuck off.
Japan says 3

>>148315782
>You do realise that Zamasu couldn't have become Black without a fourth timeline right?
Yeah.....that's how plotholes work. you can try to rationalize it all you like but at the end of the day it's just a case of shit writing.

>>148315878
Last time I checked Tori was Japanese you filthy spic bastard.

>>148315871
Nobody really cares about universe 4 anon. We never see it.

>>148315871
>Universe 1,2,3,4
Cell only existed in Universe 7 anon, you don't even know what are you talking about.

>>148315871
Like I said japan only has 3 timelines.
Butchered murican and eurofag guidebook are the only one with 4.

>>148315962
Zamasu's Goku Black body had to come from a Universe where Goku was SSJ God. It came from one of the 4 timelines which spawned a green ring.

>>148315713
By your logic Z wouldn't be canon either since it even has filler.Part of an adaptation can be canon and part of it can be not.Same with Super.The general storyline and main events are canon since Toriyama wrote it.References to non canon material that don't play into the main plot are not canon.What other parts are considered canon though we will probably never know,since god knows if they will ever release Toriyama's original drafts to the public.

>>148315954
Thx for agreeing with me.
3 timelines end off.

>>148312791
Original timeline was this
Goku died, adroids ruled, trunks went back in time, killed frieza, cold, warned about the androids, went to 3 years later, showed up to help kill the androids. Found the remote, turned them off, went back to his time and did the same, then planned on going back to frieza era and tell them about the remote ahead of time, but got killed by cell.
So right there, 2 timelines.
That cell travelled back in time. However, because cell woke up, this time when trunks went back in time to fight the androids, things changed. This means that the timeline that cell went to was the third one.
This means that the trunks that came back to fight the androids was from a fourth timeline.
Three cells were killed because we never saw what happened in the first timeline that the first trunks went to. Odds are he was woefully weak, as he could never absorb the androids and goku and them all likely were all ssj or higher.
Odds are that timeline is extremely similar to the main one. Perhaps that's where black is from.

>>148315997
Here's the thing.
I really dont trust Toriyama to remember or understand what timeline is what anymore. Im pretty sure Toriyama thinks that the tv series timeline is actually the Prime timeline.

>>148315871
>* Where did the Cell that was in U4 come from since it wasn't far enough along in the story for him to have naturally matured?
The Cell in U4 is a time copy of the U3 Cell.

>* What is the fate of this U4, no Cell games, no ascended SSJ universe?
Pretty much everything played out the same way just without Trunks.
Vegeta allowed 17 to be absorbed
Cell holds the Cell games
Goku dies
Gohan kills Cell
Cue Buu.

>>148316043
Your shit makes no sense at all.

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>>148311892
I still prefer this.

>control his god ki

jesus christ m8

>>148316113
Actually he's the only person so far besides me who's got it right.

>>148316054
So did they just not USE THE REMOTE IN THE PAST TOO?

>>148315878
not him, but
>plotholes mean non canon
That would mean the original manga is not canon.

>>148316134
No his shit makes no sense.

>Databooks are canon
Are Dragon Ball-fags really this stupid?

The 4 timelines theory will never explain who was the Trunks that defeated Freeza in Cell's timeline. There must be a 5th timeline (Unknown Timeline, not Unseen Timeline).

>>148316243
Japan says 3.
Only the japanese databook.

>>148316008
>By your logic Z wouldn't be canon either since it even has filler.
That's not my logic, that's the one the dragon ball fanbase had for decades before having to redefine their concept of canon just so Super fits.

>Part of an adaptation can be canon and part of it can be not.
If you're talking about the events narrated in it, yeah, the ones that are in the source material.

But a work is canon or not on its entirety, not conveniently selected parts.

>>148316210
The only problem with >>148316043 is where the 4th timeline, Future Trunks timeline, comes from.
It can be explained be pretty simply with a little bit of headcanon.

Here's the thing. Even if you think the OTHER Future Trunks came first you still need to explain where Killed By Cell Trunks came from anyway. And explaining that requires all sorts of looped stupid ass shitty piles and piles of headcanon bullshit.

>>148311943
Is this official?

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>>148316120
Another recolor

>>148315871
I agree with this.
We don't need to know what happened in History 4,and its events don't need to make sense to our knowledge of H 1,H2,H3,since it was never referenced aside from "H3's Trunks went back to the past and saved it".Who knows,maybe this Cell was born Perfect,born strong enough,and was capable of holding a Cell games.No one really cares,and no one really needs to know.

>>148316251
Yes. That trunks is the first trunks who time travelled.
In dbo its explained he couldnt finish helping goku and co because after he killed cold and frieza he got punished and became a time patroller.

>>148316290
It's officially bullshit.

>>148316251
Unless timeline 3 is the same as one but the medicine failed.

>>148316290
The only official one is the japanese and it says 3 timeline

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>>148316262
I don't really care if its japanese or not, all the databooks are bullshit, this is fact well known by everybody, but looks like DB-Fags are too stupid to even know that.

>>148316251
Here's the explanation.
Toriyama fucked up.
Just let it go.

>>148316336
Unless nothing, the Trunks that supposedly killed Frieza in Cells timeline would still have to have come from somewhere.

>>148314172
I wonder...
Is it possible the trunks cell killed was about to make his FIRST trip, and had used the remote to win, and was going to go back, and in trunks time THAT cell was actually killed by the androids? Android 16 wasn't around. Maybe he sacrificed himself saving the others.

>>148316251
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_tertiary_characters#Trunks_.28unknown_timeline.29
They even have an entry on him, who could have guessed.

>>148316243
There's nothing wrong with considering data books canon if they are consistent with the material we know is.

That said
>Are Dragon Ball-fags really this stupid?
Yes. They hated the anime version for years because it shat on muh precious original manga ( and said "shat" is mostly minor or outright made up contradictions). Come Super, now contradictions are suddenly acceptable, except now Super makes references to the DBZ filler and the Garlick Jr movie, but those are still not considered canon for some reason despite Super being considered canon.

>>148316379
>Is it possible the trunks cell killed was about to make his FIRST trip

No. It was stated Trunks was going back to celebrate his victory.
Why the fuck he picked a year BEFORE he first arrived in the past makes no sense at all, but whatever.

>>148316251
>in Cell's timeline
On which Cell's timeline?
Keep in mind that Freezer can either be defeated by Trunks or Goku teleporting to Earth.

>>148316374
Except that akira helped writing the japanese ones. Where do you think most of the dragonball lore come from?
Like 18/17 real name and 16 looking like dr gero son.
Akira says 3. All murica and eurofags can shut up now.

>>148316274
What is your logic then? What am I arguing against?

>>148316453
>Except that akira helped writing the japanese ones.
Which he had later retconned.

>>148316462
>What am I arguing against?
Your own logic.

I dont personally give a shit about canon because DB is not a serious scifi work. If there really has to be a canon then it's just the manga.

>>148316378
>Here's the explanation.
Toriyama fucked up.
Just let it go.

Except that he didnt and mentioned this trunks in dbo as being time patroller trunks.

>>148316444
The timeline Cell originally came from. The future.

There's a plothole line where Cell says Gero could've gotten Trunks cells from his fight. Just ignore it.

>>148316424
Thats what makes it sound like it was his first trip

>>148316379
You're being confused by something.
We see Trunks go back to the past twice in the anime. In the episode where he finally defeats the Androids and Cell, we see him preparing to go back a third time, to tell the Z Warriors he did it. That's when Cell killed Trunks in Cell's timeline.

Trunks 1st travel = 20 years in the future
Cell awakens naturally = 24 years in the future

There's a difference of 4 years between both travels (in the future).

>>148316527
He wouldn't have the remote if it was before his first trip.

>>148316472
Super aint canon faggot.
3 timelines end off.

>>148316453
>Except that akira helped writing the japanese ones
>helped
so, he didn't even wrote it himself? If isn't in the manga it isn't canon, as simple as that, but you are too stupid to understand how canon works.

>>148316513
Why'd you come up and say Super isn't canon then if you didn't care and didn't want a fight,you know how much idiots like me care about this shit

>>148316536
>That's when Cell killed Trunks in Cell's timeline.

You're confused by something.
The Trunks in Cell's timeline was killed before his SECOND time. There's no way Trunks would lose to Cell if it were the same up to that point.

Actually, shouldn't Future Trunks have been killed by Cell too before his second trip? Why wasn't he?

>>148316617
Because I hate how inconsistent the DB fanbase is with their criteria. Specially after years of seeing the anime being shat on for petty reasons and now Super getting a pass.

>>148316586
Akira got interviewed thats it.
And the people wrote what he said and he said 3 timelines.
Only murica and euro guidebook have 4.
Even the spanish stay faithful and have 3.

>>148316536
Your years are off.
Remember that trunks was 18 when he left the future the second time, and 20 when he came back. Which means cell appeared when he would have been 21.

>>148316444
The Cell that hosts the Cell games. The whole problem with timeline theory is that Cell said (to Piccolo) that Trunks defeated Freeza in his timeline, when it should have been Goku. This Trunks that defeated Freeza can't be the one that Cell killed, because you can't change your own future. So he had to come from yet another timeline, or Cell would have remembered Goku defeating Freeza (as in the original timeline).

If just there wasn't that plothole, the whole timeline stuff would be much easier to explain.

>>148316572
Why? I forget, was the remote destroyed, or they just didn't know where geros old lab was.

>>148316658
>and now Super getting a pass.
You what? People have been ripping Super a new one. Especially since the anime and manga are two different canons.

>>148311943
There should only be one timeline with a perfect cell. The events are as follows...

Original Timeline:
Freeze and King Cold arrive. Goku arrives and beats them. Goku dies of virus. Trunks is born. 17 and 18 are unleashed. "Everyone" but Bulma, Trunks, and Gohan die. Gohan trains Trunks for years. 17 and 18 kill Gohan. Trunks turns Super Saiyan. Trunks escapes. Trunks travels to the past.

Split

New Timeline 1:
Freeze and King Cold appear. Trunks defeats them. Warns of events. Gives Goku medicine for virus. Returns to Original Timeline.

Original Timeline: Trunks returns. Either thinks alternate past is his new past and he needs to help change his future still, or realizes it will never change his future at this point. Trunks then travels back to present timeline coordinates of alternate past to help fight androids.

New Timeline 1:
Years have passed. Z Warriors have trained. Trunks is born. 19 and 20 appear. Goku succumbs to delayed virus. Vegeta defeats 19. Trunks appears. Trunks explains/realizes differences with own timeline. 20 releases a less aggressive 17 and 18. 18 releases 16. 17 kills 20. Lab is destroyed. 17 and 18 defeat Z Warriors. Androids search for bedridden Goku. Somehow Bulma builds the remote device and they shut down the androids. Trunks travels back to his future with the blueprints. Imperfect Cell most likely still exists, but doesn't have 17 and 18, nor does he have a time machine. He is most likely destroyed after being born years later.

Original Timeline:
Trunks returns with remote device. Trunks shuts down 17 and 18. Trunks prepares to travel to the past one last time to give the good news of his success. Imperfect Cell kills Trunks and steals the time machine, traveling to the past to preset coordinates. It is possible Cell calculated the extra years needed knowing when 17 and 18 would awaken compared to when he would hatch. As a result, by traveling even further back in time, Cell splits the timeline once again.

1/?

>>148316658
I don't know anon."The fanbase" is a pretty broad statement.It could probably just be your general perception of how and what this fanbase thinks.

>>148316742
He only got the remote from his trip to the past in the first place.

>>148316696
Akira explained in dbo that this trunks is the first one to time travel and got punished and became a time patroller. Thats why he couldnt help this timeline with the androids.
But dbo isnt regarded as canon even though akira did the story outline like he does with super but whatever.

>>148316677
20 years in the future, not Trunks 20 years old.
Remember that from the year Trunks appears in the past until he's born, there's 3 years. He said he was 17 to Bulma, so it adds up.
About 24 years, Cell said it.

Trunks arrives from the future = Age 764
Cell awakens = Age 788

>>148316797
It's not canon because none of the elements in it make any sense.

>>148316748
>People have been ripping Super a new one
Aside from animation, all fansite I follow generally like Super.

> Especially since the anime and manga are two different canons.
First time I hear this. Before that the manga was the one and only sacred canon and that was it. I never saw anyone saying the animated adaptations are another different canon(which, to be fair, would make the whole thing way more consistent). But that'd still make DBZ filler canon.

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>>148316833
Wasn't the time machine supposed to be set to 17 years?

>>148316848
Its akira does super make more sense?

>>148316759
Well, I never made a scientiic study on the dragon ball fanbase so of course it's my perception. But every time I go to a DB discussion people are still obsessed about canon and plotholes.

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just woke up and finished watching. please spoonfeed, can someone tell me the name of trunk's new transformation?

>>148316639
He can't be killed before travelling the second time, because he only discovered the blueprints after his second travel. So Cell should have killed him before his third travel.

>>148311943
If there were functional shutdown control blueprints for the #17 and #18 in history 4, why would Perfect Cell have been created to start the Cell Games?

>>148316918
Legendary halfbred sayian.

>>148316918
Super Saiyan God Legendary Super Saiyan

>>148316919
I guss that's not impossible. Why does it matter again? It's still not before his first.

>>148316918
Sorry to break the fun but it's literally unnamed.

>>148316943
Like he got perfect in our own timeline.
With vegeta being a cocky little bitch and krillin being a dickhead.
The events play the same as the main except without a trunks.

>>148316943
I'll give you a hint.

The guide was written by stupid people.

>>148316995
Stupid people like >>148316989

>>148316995
Except you are wrong.

>>148316874
She's probably talking about the 2nd travel, in which Trunks arrived 3 years before his 1st.

I just watched DBZ episode 122 (where Trunks explains the stuff to Goku), and he said 20 years.
If you have the episode, he says it after the 8-minute mark.

>>148316943
>why would Perfect Cell have been created to start the Cell Games?
Same reason he was created in H1. Krillin fucked up.

>>148317042
Its 17 years. Not sure what murifag version you saw but both in the manga and anime its stated 17 years.

>>148317042
>She's probably talking about the 2nd travel, in which Trunks arrived 3 years before his 1st.

???
Trunks never arrived 3 years before his first trip.

>>148317042
*3 years after his 1st

>>148316904
Well I understand how it get's annoying at times,but if that's what the majority cares about,well,not much you can do about it.Just ignore us,I suppose.

>>148317093
If that was true, little Trunks would already be born, because big Trunks said he was 17 to Bulma. Remember that when Trunks arrives the first time, little Trunks wasn't born yet, he's only born 3 years later.

Age 784 = Trunks takes the time machine back to the past
Age 764 = Trunks arrives in the past

20 years.

>>148317110
*after, sorry

>>148317196
It's supposed to be a RELATIVE 17 years. If Trunks changed the settings then he wouldve ended up in a different timeline.
So it can be assumed that Trunks waited out the 2-3 years.

>>148316696
Those werent cell's memories, those were flashbacks of the main timeline, for the reader.
Cell never says trunks killed frieza.
I can sort of see what the clone guy was saying though.
Its possible that having two time travellers allowed them to effect each others timelines rather than making new ones.
In other words, the timeline trunks travelled back to was changed by cell travelling back, and effectively canceled out a timeline, by moving the destination of trunks trip.
We know you can't change your future, but if your target past is replaced by another time traveller, it might effect timelines.

>>148316756

Split

New Timeline 2 - Main Series:
Cell appears and after hatching burrows into the ground to grow for years. Years pass. Frieza and King Cold appear. Trunks defeats them. Warns of events. Gives Goku medicine for virus. Trunks returns to a now new future Timeline thanks to cell's split.

Split(?)

Future Trunks' Timeline:
Trunks returns. Either thinks alternate past is his new past and he needs to help change his future still, or realizes it will never change his future at this point. Trunks then travels back to preset timeline coordinates of alternate past to help fight androids.

New Timeline 2 - Main Series:
Years have passed. Z Warriors have trained. Trunks is born. 19 and 20 appear. Goku succumbs to delayed virus. Vegeta defeats 19. Trunks appears. Trunks explains/realizes differences with own timeline. 20 releases a less aggressive 17 and 18. 18 releases 16. 17 kills 20. Lab is destroyed. 17 and 18 defeat Z Warriors. Androids search for bedridden Goku. Imperfect Cell awakens. Cell tells Piccolo of his origin and secret lab basement. Trunks and Krillin find android blueprints in lab. They destroy it and the unborn cell. Bulma builds the remote device. Cell absorbs 17. Krillin destroys shut down device. Cell absorbs 18. Goku recovers. Dende becomes new guardian. Cell games. Cell kills Goku and future trunks. Gohan kills cell. Dragon balls resurrect future trunks and others. Trunks returns to his future now much stronger.

Future Trunks' Timeline:
Trunks returns with new strength. Trunks defeats 17 and 18. Trunks prepares to travel to the past one last time to give the good news of his success. Imperfect Cell fails to sneak up on a forewarned Trunks. Trunks kills cell. Trunks returns to the past to give news of his success.

*Note: the contents of New Timeline 1 may not have included Goku's delayed virus, androids 19, 20, and 16, or less aggressive androids.

2/?

>>148317262
>Cell never says trunks killed frieza.

He says Dr. Gero could've gotten cells from Trunks during that figh but Gero felt he had enough Saiyan cells.

>>148317262
>Cell never says trunks killed frieza.
He did read the manga see here >>148312222

>>148317283
Nobody can read your shit.

>>148312010
>Do you want a lot of ingrate brats running around with powers greater than ours?
Do you think Vegeta thought back to this conversation while he watched his 8 year old son become a Super Saiyan?

>>148317283
As we can clearly see, there was no way for cell to reach his perfect form in any Timeline other than new Timeline 2 - main series.

3/3

>>148317262
He actually said that, and mentioned Trunks by name.
It's an error, there's no other way past it.

>>148317196
Trunks came back 20 years the first time, then 17 1/2 years the second time.
He had to recharge.

>>148317337
You do realise none of your posts make any sense right?

>>148317315
>>148317300
No, all we know is trunks existed before cell
Which fits the normal timeline.

>>148317365
Yeah, that's why I said Mai's line in the Super manga was about his 2nd travel, not his first.

>>148317365
According to >>148316874 if he changed the settings he would've ended up in different timelines.
That means 2 years passed in the future while Goku and company were training.
Which is stupid to think about it, but if he didn't, that would mean the time machine broke its own rules.

I love how all the muricans are ignoring me the moment I showed them the japanese guide book with 3 timelines.
You so delusional I bet you guys think bruce shitcolner is good haha.

>>148317419
What do you mean "No?" It says it right in >>148312222

I mean I believe >>148312222 is just Toriyama making a mistake but it still says it. It's in the anime too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3V3nhkL-Pk

>>148316756
>>148317283
>>148317337
Anybody got a better explanation than mine?

>>148317431
2 years also passed in goku's time.
Just because trunks is in a future timeline doesnt mean time there goes slower.

>>148317480
That's what I just said stupid.

>>148317412
Did you read them from the beginning? You'd have to be an idiot not to get it. It's in order of events from original Timeline to resulting alternate Timelines.

>>148317515
I stopped reading when I saw you you use the word split.

>>148317419
Its doesn fit cell's timeline though since trunks should even be born yet when frieza and cold arrived. Cell even said dr gero could have gotten trunks dna but didnt need it. Where did that trunks come from?

>Trunks getting this strong from a temporary rage boost

Also Broly did that look better

>>148317431
Huh, heres a thought.
What if he DID change years.
The first time took him to the timeline cell is from. He kills frieza, goes back to the past. That timelines trunks went to the main timeline. The trunks we see kill frieza is the one cell kills in his time. Our future trunks caused cells times friezas death

>>148317515
Yeah.
And given the information we have none of your posts make any sense. Plus you're only thinking in terms of the Cell saga when this whole thing started because Zamasu took a living Goku's body.

>>148317459
Am i missing it? I keep looking and not seeing a line about trunks killing frieza.

>>148317583
No that shit makes no sense.
Entirely different trunks.

>>148317626
>We could've added Trunks cells to the line
No he could not have because this is future Cell and future Dr. Gero and in the future Goku beat Frieza, not Trunks.

>>148317681
>what is child Trunks

>>148317653
I dunno, i think im on to something.
He switched the years once, and because the androids were stronger, and cell is there, he's now worried it took him to another timeline

>>148317681
Did you even read the manga panel I redirected you?
Cell says that they could have gotten trunks dna.
Are you being a retard on purpose or cant you read?

>>148317583
That might work...except then Cell would've ended up in a different timeline too.

Also that would mean Trunks came from the future and gave the medicine but then everyone died anyway.

>>148317716
Am I being fucking trolled right now or did you link the wrong post?

>>148317704
>shows Freeza cleaved in half
>shows King Cold attacked in the same spot Trunks attacked him
>child Trunks wasn't even born yet
It's a plothole.

>>148317707
You on to bullshit thats what you are.
Timeline isnt that complicated. Its just one guy who keeps refuting the existance of a 3rd trunks and a 4th timeline that is parallel to the main one. Where zamasu got his goku from.

>>148317707
It explains the Future Trunks in the future plothole but it just creates new ones in its place. No.

>>148317782
>implying they weren't piccolo's memories of the events

>>148317547
It's when the Timelines split. What other word was I supposed to use? And why would it matter?

>>148317608
How does it. It make sense? This is the four Timelines. As an autistic fag I tried studying this shit. It's not my fault you can't read. We know there's at least one more alternate timeline as seen by the extra time ring, and we don't know what caused that one. Xanadu with gokus body could have come from new Timeline 1, the alternate timeline where the androids were shut down with the shut down device, or this unknown alternate timeline. It's also possible in new Timeline 1 that the androids weren't shut down, and trunks returned to his future trusting that the device would work and it did.

>>148317849
Literally cell telling him that it was trunks.
Try again.>>148312222

>>148317770
I think he was, you were responding to my post and he just cut in

>>148317877
How doesn't it*
Not Xanadu, Zamasu*
Thanks iPhone :/

>>148317912
"We could have added trunks" is not "trunks killed frieza"

>>148317969
Ok and where did that trunks come from sonce he wasnt born yet at the time?

>>148317969
Trunks wasn't even born at the time.

Wow, I thought powerlevelfags and gohanfags were annoying...

...but timelinefags? jesus fucking christ

>>148318037
This is a thread about timelines, not DB Super General.

>>148318004
>Ok and where did that trunks come from sonce he wasnt born yet at the time?
From when he was eventually born maybe?
Remember in Timeline 2 and 3 everything happened a little later due to a lack of warning.

>>148318112
Now thats just stupid headcanon.
Gg thx for wasting my time

>>148318112
Goku arrived the same day as trunks came to kill frieza. So no you make no sense.

>>148314105
>Was this supossed to be SSJ2?
No

>Didn't he already achieve SSJ2 before?
Yes

> I was expecting him go to level 3 in this scene.

Same here, but it looks like he's triggered a variation of super sayan god super sayan, kind like Goku did with his fight with Beerus at the end, but much stronger it seems.

Trunks is experiencing and learning God-ki with actual fights instead of just training/sparring like Goku/Vegeta. That coupled with the fact he has been fighting a god for months using standard SSJ2 will make his SSG the strongest and unique, at least for now.

>>148318283
Is trunks the strongest unfused z-fighter?

>>148318331
Yes

>>148318283
So we found the new bullshit powerup Goku and the others will use during the 12 unvierse Tournament since SSB is, and basically always has been, fucking worthless.

>>148318753
Why would they downgrade themselves.
The blue surrounding trunks just means that he started tap into god ki and fused it with ssj2. Now thinking about it nvm this might be how ssb2 looks like.

>>148318892
>Implying it was ever possible it was a downgrade when they ended the episode on it and everyone was gasping

>>148319209
Vegeta gets surprised by every little shit.

Why is Zamasu so strong? I understand him being immortal and taking no damage, but Goku, Vegeta and Trunks should be far stronger than him.

>>148319376
Theyare far stronger then him, most of htier power is wasted trying to take out black who has plot device SSRose

mafuba confirmed
http://es.blastingnews.com/showbiz-y-tv/2016/10/dragon-ball-super-capitulos-62-63-64-y-65-la-fusion-se-confirma-spoiler-001166795.html

>>148319928
Spics gtfo

I vote to call Trunks new form Super Saiyan Yellow.

>>148320198
it will be called Super Saiyan Future

>>148320499
What if somebody else uses it?

>>148316378
t. Too stupid to understand Multiverse Theory, Too lazy to learn

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>>148316577
>Thinks he dictates what is canon
>Actually listens to idiots on 4chan

GT Fag plz go

>>148317475
Do you really expect anyone to read all that shit?

If you're going to put that much effort into something that you want people to take seriously, maybe you should just make another fucking chart, like we don't have 20 of those already.

Holy fuck.

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Goku Black is the Zamasu that Goku sparred with but they only sparred because he fought Black already. So I'm just gonna assume that the time ring doesn't follow whatever time travel rules dragon ball had before and save myself a headache