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WE WERE BORN TO MAKE HISTORY

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WE WERE BORN TO MAKE HISTORY
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AOTY
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full song when?
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>>148287603
Go check nyaa
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>>148287914
>this whole sentence

When did /a/ stop caring?
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>Yuuri also has a poster of the same picture framed on his desk
>And two of the same poster on opposite walls
Wew.
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>>148286903
Well if you're not going to make babies. I guess that's an okay plan B.
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>>148289532
He wants dat Russian dik
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I want to fuck Viktors boypussy.
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>>148290059
don't we all?
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>>148289532
Imagine fapping into that room.
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Someome wrote up a really interesting breakdown of the program Victor and Yuri does. Apparently its absolutely impossible in terms of actually doing it in real life. If scored it would be given a 88.79 and the current world record is 79.87. Remember, this is something Yuri pulls off at his home rink when he's out of shape and practice.
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Not really getting all the hype. It's really fucking hard to do a high paced dynamic sport like ice skating justice in animation, and it shows. No matter how beautiful the highlights look, there's moments where it's made way too obvious that the background and the skater are animated separately, and it's really jarring and completely pulls me out.

And in terms of storytelling, it's really awkward to start everything out at the peak of a mid-career crisis, which we only understand after having it explained to us, only to have it resolved during the same episode, also in a way that the protagonist explains rather than shows. Both of those points are really defining for a character and deserves a lot of time to develop properly, but instead we just blaze through them so they can be used as setup for Yuri and Victor's relationship.

And all sudden jumps from a serious atmosphere to cartoony silliness just makes it feel erratic. A lot of anime does this, as a sort of play on expectations, and I rarely find it very funny, but in this show I'm finding it downright annoying.

Really struggling to see any reason to keep watching next week, other than the fact that I'll lose street cred with you guys.
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>>148291788
He wanted to impress the girl before confessing. And it really payed off.
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>>148291788
Honestly, I was expecting them to fudge a little anyway considering this is a sports anime. The fact that they tried to make it somewhat believable is good in my books.
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>>148291028
>>148289532
So basically he shamefully jerks it every night staring into the eyes of the glamour shots of a sexual older Russian man

This anime is something else
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>>148288974
When leddit became a thing.
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>>148291788
It's not impossible, there are already skaters doing free programs with 4 quads (Boyang Jin, Nathan Chen and Yuzuru Hanyu). That quad toe in combination at the end is a little too much though, no one does quads that late in a program.
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>>148292507
>never had a girlfriend
I wonder why.
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>>148292329
Yeah no I agree, I much prefer sports anime with some realism compared to ones where they all have some unique super power of sorts. I just thought it was fun for people who aren't into ice skating, myself included, to understand just how fucking incredible Victor's routine was.
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>>148292507
He probably also has a poster on the ceiling right over his bed.
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>>148292165
I agree, especially with the part about the animation being jarring. I'm not really sure what people are seeing when they talk about it being incredible and beautiful. The amount of movement going on is pretty refreshing, though, I guess.
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>>148288706
>tfw no face
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>>148292165
Just don't watch it.
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what's with this season and exclamation marks
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>148293326
Sports is very exciting.
>Free!
>Haikyuu!!
>All Out!!
>Yuri!!! on Ice
>Keijo!!!!!!!!
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>>148286903
I haven't even downloaded this yet but jesus christ he's beautiful.
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>>148294043
Wait until you see his ass.
AOTY
O
T
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>>148291788
>Someome wrote up
Karice? Take it with a bag of salt.
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>>148291788
>>148292751
That's interesting, thanks for sharing knowledge. I don't really know much about figure skating but these threads are inspiring me to look up more.
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Whos sluttier- Viktor or Yuri?
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>>148296132
Victor is pure!

pure sex
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>>148294182
I want to touch his face.
And run my fingers through his hair.
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>>148298038
I know anon, so do I.
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>>148298038
Does pubic hair count?
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>>148298605
Viktor is smooth.
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>>148298605
Yes
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>>148286903
So how gay is this
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>>148298980
Watch and find out.
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>>148299111
W E W
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>>148286903
I fucking hate the OP and I don't even know why.
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>>148299286
It's similar to generic normalfag music, maybe that's why
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>>148299286
It's a Eurovision song.
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>>148299398
I normally don't mind those, but >>148299535 is probably right. I hated most of those in the latest one.
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Post Fairy.
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>>148299286
>hate the OP
You're a rare few.
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>>148300173
>you will never ride Yuuri back home
Why even fly.
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>>148300078
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Calling it. It'll be Yuri in the Grand Finals for the Senior, and HISTORY MAKER will play, and he'll play to Viktor the same way he played to Yu-chan.

>then I'll fucking cry
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One thing I didn't get. Was he going to confess to a married woman? 'cause from what I understood, she fucked the chad and those are their kids. Yuri is crazy.
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>>148301777
It's never too late for true love!
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>>148301777
they are her little sisters i think
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>>148301777
>>148302120
Hetfag bait

>>148302240
See, the denial started already.
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>>148302240
nah the Chad said those were his kids.
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>>148301777
The NTR was probably the reason why he focused on his training.
>during the last 5 years I was away, I tried to ignore a lot of things by focusing on skating
Being on the losing side of a love triangle does that to a person.
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>>148302503

Plus, it seems like he isn't hung up on it and would rather skate.
They should honestly just keep it as a crush on her (to show that he has the NOT GAYS), but keep out a budding failed romance with her out of it.
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>>148302742

Mike, I thought you hated animey.
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>>148302742
He still finds her cute though.
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>>148302742
>to show that he has the NOT GAYS
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>>148301777
>what is divorce
I'm still rooting for Yuri and Yuu.chan. In this day and age marriage is not forever. Victor can stick to his wife and daughter.
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>unironically is one of the best shows this season
>might be ruined with fujishit

Surprised the small splash it made though, even in this post-Free! world
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>>148303279
They are talking about the nip not the slav.
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>>148303282
>might
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>Yuri on ice

>gayest show this season
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>>148305118
Possibly not. ClassicLoid has boys dancing with boys and girls dancing with girls.
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Why is it that the cutest boys always like dogs? Even in real life all of the nicest/most dateable ones I know all love dogs, usually exclusively
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>>148286903
>yuri on ice
>they are all boys
>its actually yaoi on ice

Anyone else feel depressed?
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Yuri on Ice? More like Yurio Nice, amirite?
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>>148299286
It gets old really fast because it's repetitious.

>>148306240
Classicaloid made the gayest music composer in history a loli or what could be the best trap ever, but I'm surprised how much 3gatsu is overlooked because the manga gets pretty fucking homo ignoring the girls Rei hangs out with.

>>148306529
Nice blog.
>>>/t/umblr
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>>148303282
But Fuji is the best girl, she won't ruin anything.
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>Introduce a love interest
>Who already has kids

is this literally just so they can make the show gay as fuck without actually being gay
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>>148308100
She will ditch her husband and fall for Yuri. Het love always win.
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>>148306529
You know, Hitler liked dogs too :3
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>>148308409
why would anyone want to see that happen
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>>148308484
Because Yuri a cute and I want him to be happy with the woman he loves.
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>>148302830
She IS cute, aside from being Chad's sloppy seconds.
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>>148308409
She'll fall for Victor, just like everyone else
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>>148306863
>ignoring the girls Rei hangs out with
Because Rei is the MC.

There's a bit of an age gap between him and the girls so they aren't meant to be seen as romantic interests. The manga is seinen and written by a woman so you're not going to get an 'everyone wants MC dick' with this series.
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Someday, mark my words.
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>>148310146
>wanting him to raise those uggos.

I'd rather he raise the Fairy with Victor.
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>>148310146
Wrecking an established family is not fixing something; he's an athlete, he can easily find a new girl worthy of his love if you are that desperate for straight romance.
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>>148311340
He is*
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>Viktor is gonna see Yuri's room
>he's also gonna find out the name of the dog

This better not pussy out. Too many signs point in boy love.
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>>148311507
I don't know why you newfags insist on having high hopes.
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Ranking of the increase in twitter followers over the last 3 days.
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>>148310146
How did such butter-faced girls come out of such a cute one.
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Finally watched it.

Seems like it'll be a good show. I also like Hiramatsu's character designs. Might watch it for Viktor alone if it starts to suck.
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>>148312013
I'm so happy for the director, I really want this project to succeed.
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>>148312361
How old is Blonde Yuri supposed to be? 16?
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>>148311763
It's better than being a cynical old fuck who thinks the world is stagnant and nothing can ever change. I mean, it probably won't end up being the Fags on Ice epic romance we long for, but is it that wrong to hope?
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>>148312361
>kawaii Victor
>pouting fairy

perfect.
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>>148312013
>muh twitter

Shit is going to flop anyway, normalfags that use twitter dont buy anime
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>>148300441
SLUT
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>>148312361
Fucking hell
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>>148312013
Most of the new followers might be gaijin.
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>>148312367

See, I think this is gonna be the "Ping Pong" of this year, which sounds stupid I know, but I feel like we're gonna get a lot of overwhelming emotions from a lot of characters who are still developing that are all based around this single sport and how much they want to get better.

It seems wonderful. I love the skating scenes, the characters seem fun and endearing so far, the colors and backgrounds look great and mesh well. It's nice to have a show like this because it reminds me why I watch anime.

Bold statements for a first episode, but I watched this and it suddenly sparked in me "Man, what else is out there this season?", something I haven't said since 2011.
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>>148312361
I want to bully a fairy!
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>>148312361
>>148312547
Victor looks like a cyclops.
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>>148312559
Wouldn't that make the director even happier? She's making this out of love, that her work is actually reaching people all over the world must be making her happy as fuck.

Let's worry about sales and flopping after it actually comes out.
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>>148312564
it actually reminds me more of rakugo than ping pong. It seems like a much more traditional character drama where the art/sport is going to be an expression of personality. Ping Pong was more about people wrestling with their relationship to the sport than the people themselves, I think.
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>>148312669

Sure, I haven't seen Rakugo so Ping Pong was my nearest point of reference. The way the skating animation is done kind of evokes that as well.
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>>148312669
>Ping Pong was more about people wrestling with their relationship to the sport than the people themselves, I think.

to clarify what I mean by this: in Ping Pong events that happen in the sport shape the characters and their arcs whereas in Rakugo it's kind of reversed, where the character drama is established and the performance is used to metaphorically underscore certain points about the performer and where they are in their lives.
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>>148312762
yeah the focus on detailed and naturalistic body movement is really nice, though obviously Ping Pong's was a lot more stylized and exaggerated sometimes.
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>>148312413
Delusion is a tragic fate. Better to be open to surprises yet grounded in reality than to make delusional proclamations, either insisting that canon gay will happen or exclaiming that you'll be turbomad if it doesn't. Have hope, but don't let it make a fool of you.
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>>148312361
Victor's hilarious selfie is the best part of this image.
Yuri seems to swing between looking mature and having a total babyface in official art.
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also I really didn't like the OP the first time I heard it but when I heard it with the animation in the first ep it really clicked with me for some reason and now I love it.
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This is my girlfriend Christophe, say something nice about him.
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>>148312559
I quickly went through some thousands of them to check if this claim is true; it isn't. At most, 1/10 of those are gaijin (mostly Korean from what I noticed). Rest are Japanese (and people who write their profiles in moon).
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>>148313065
>bae
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>>148312837
>the character drama is established and the performance is used to metaphorically underscore certain points about the performer and where they are in their lives.

to the point where certain non-performance scenes are directed to basically look like theater performances to underscore the blur between life/performance in some of the show's best episodes. when is rakugo coming back.....
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I'm in love with Sensei
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>>148312407
15
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yuri's face looks so lonely without the glasses
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>>148312013
YoI staff/twitter promised to do "something" for reaching 30k followers, today they apologized for not being fast enough and "please wait just a little more" because they've already over 40k followers. It's a bit amusing. I'm hoping they will draw a sketch or something on Monday.
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>>148313564
Viktor might actually kill him.
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>>148313564
Where are Yuri's hands.

For that matter, where are Fairy's hands.
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>>148313564
That's cute, but I hope they focus on finishing their episodes in time over stuff like that.
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>>148313564
That house at the top of the hill looks creepy.
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>>148313626
>hands must be out of the water during a bath or you're fondling yourself
Underage humor.
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>>148313186
Technically the entirety of the flashback arc is a rakugo performance, since Bon is telling the story.

Goddamm Rakugo was good, I wonder if I'll end up enjoying Yuri more but so far it's my easy AOTY.
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>>148310146
Fixed your fix, senpai.
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>>148313564
So am I the only one who thinks it looks like Yuri is sitting on vics leg?
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>>148313766
>tomboy Yuriko
I think I can approve this.
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>>148313766
Top tier, saved.
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>>148313766
Oh my god, perfect.
Words cannot describe how much I'm enjoying this picture.

Saved.
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>>148313766
>4 yuri
They're multiplying
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>>148286903
Persona?
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When does the ED single drop? I think I'm going to wind up liking it more than the OP.
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>>148287914
>thx
Lurk for 2 years before posting.
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>>148313766
10/10
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>>148314116
if you think the use of certain abbreviations has a strict correlation with age your eagerness to play at 4chan etiquette politics is probably more condemning of your age than his
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>>148314224
>>148287914
Fuck off samefag.
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>>148313766
Nice.
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>>148314224
lurk for 2 years before posting, retard.
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>>148312413
It's wrong because Yuri is straight.
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>>148313766
Fucking lost it.
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>>148313766
Autistic clean-up because I missed several spots and forgot the lines.
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>>148312361
Yuri's looking more like a certain gay fuckboi.
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>>148314951
So he'll end up a drug-addicted prostitute?
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>>148314991
He's already getting started on dope.
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>>148314894
fuckin saved anon
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>>148314267
>>148314636
check the ips buds
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>>148299286
I like the music, but the animation loop is a turn off for me. But I still like it
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>>148299286
It is insanely overrated.
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>You will never have your childhood hero stand butt naked in your home giving you a full frontal view while saying he wants to be your coach.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Uj2a_Ehy0
For anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
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>>148301777
maybe to get it out of his chest? Sometimes <people> confess their love in that way like "hahah I used to have a crush on you when we where little!"
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>>148314951
I'm glad i'm not the only one that noticed this.
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>>148315288
My childhood hero is Steve Irwin so I think this is okay
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>>148292165
I honestly didn't expect the skating animation to be really fluid and detailed because it's a show not a movie. It's pretty to look at though and as long as it's not hideous, I don't really mind. I'm just worried they spent all their budget on the first episode.

The Victor/Yuri Cinderella story is really off-putting to me so far. I'm actually more interested in the "edgy Slav" which is kinda sad and weird even to me. Not to shit on Yurio, just saying he's already more interesting than the MC and Victor at this point in terms of what we know. Victor mainly caught my eye because of the hype surrounding him and I'm curious how he's going to be shown to be a "genius". Yuri is just boring underdog beta MC and I'm not that interested so far. I just hope he mans up more, him taking action to get out of his depression is a step in the right direction, but a lot of anime do that and then regress so we'll see if they can keep it up with his character.
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>Victor continues to hold the lead in moe rankings
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I want to see Yuri do Cinderella on Ice.
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>>148299286
I really like the song, but it's exhausting to listen to more than once. You should only listen to when you want to get hype.
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>>148315324
><people>
Don't do that ever again
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>>148315708
>Not wanting the naked ghost of Steve Irwin to teach you about animals and how to wrestle crocodiles.
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>>148315208
The OP animation is probably unfinished, like when Ping Pong aired the first episode only had half of it or so animated. SBR's ED animation was updated over time too.

>>148299286
The ED is less annoying to listen to on repeat.
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>>148301777
I think he wanted to confess, but wasn't planning on her actually reciprocating. His love for her seems a bit selfish. Like, he likes the idea of her in his head but is too much of a bitch to make anything out of it so he focused on skating and when he finally got the courage to confess, it was more to ease his own heart.
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How is katsudon supposed to be sexy? Why isn't it episode three yet, I need to see it to believe it.
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>>148315901
Well when you put it that way
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>>148308100
>love interest

She has kids, she's probably there to give more characterization to Yuri's emotional habits and how he used skating to escape from his problems.
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>>148315790
I want Yuri as Cinderella
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>>148311340
>desperate for straight romance

Irony.
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>>148315951
I also thought of that, I wonder how the final OP will be.
By the way, anyone is planning on buying the BD? Im going to buy them after half of the series maybe.
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>>148316186
How is my post ironic?
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>>148316221
I'm tempted as fuck but I kind of want to give it some more time first. Definitely considering it though.
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>>148316108
>Skate away from your problems
>New problems can skate after you
he's fucked.
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>>148316058
That is interesting. I assume the choreographer was trying to make it really clear to those who aren't skating fans how good Victor is and make it as entertaining as possible. Figure skaters make it look so effortless and easy that a little exaggeration probably helps make that distinction between good and the best.
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>>148313766
>those small Yurios
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>>148316058
>AND YURI KEEPS UP WITH ALL OF THIS. YURI, WHO CAME IN LAST AT THE GPF. YURI CAN DO THIS TOO

That's a problem for me as well, because he shouldn't be able to.
First, because of skill level and second because how would he know Victor's routine.

I was under the impression that they were doing different routines and they were just placed together for cinematography purposes.
It is the same song, though.
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>>148316108
He won't stop being in love with her, he has had the hots for her for 15 years. This is true love.
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>>148316231
because you're just as desperate for gay romance.
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>>148316511
That's what I assumed, too.
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>>148316529
Victor/Yuri raising fairy together is now my favorite meme
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>>148316518
He clearly still likes her despite her marrying Chad and having his triplets. I think it's sweet, but I doubt he will end up with her. She'll definitely be a lifelong friend though.
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>>148314894
Saved.
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>>148316511
>how would he know Victor's routine.
He said he'd been practicing it since the end of the competition
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DON'T STOP US NOW
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>>148316511
>and second because how would he know Victor's routine.

Wasn't it that it wasn't a new routine for Victor? It makes sense for him to know it and have it memorized considering how obsessed with him Yuri is.
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Victor is going to be a massive weeb isn't he?
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>>148316528
I don't want any type of romance at all.
That anon wanted Yuri to be happy with the girl he loves; but since she is married and pursuing her would make him look like a selfish home-wrecker I offered middle ground of adding a nice new girl since some people are desperate for there to be romance in the show, how does that make me desperate for gay. Stop making up stuff that I never said.
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>>148316726
Victor is doing the exact same routine as a year ago? I find that unlikely.
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>>148316511
Yea, I don't understand why people insist that Yuri is anywhere near Victor's level right now. Even the video was labeled as "Yuri Katsuki TRIES to do Victor's routine" or something like that.

It caught Victor's eye sure (we still don't know exactly why), but people are just delusional if they think the MC is going to be on the same level as the legend mentor character right off the bat. I also don't know why they think this would be a good thing as there's already a skilled prodigy character as a main.
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>>148316804
Pretty sure, yeah.
How can a 27-year-old man be this moe?
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>>148316815
If it was just about romance in general, you wouldn't have bothered specifically singling out "straight romance". You're clearly triggered about the straight part.

I don't want there to be any romance either. I think Yuri already liking Yu-chan is enough to add a taste of it without putting too much focus on it since she's taken and him suddenly falling inlove with someone else and getting over her would take away the focus too much.
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>Men's figure skating video goes viral
>It doesn't involve a bad wipe out, tantrum, or other equally embarrassing action.

My suspension of disbelief is broken.
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>>148316406
>Yurios
>Cheerios

heh.
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>>148316819
He must have been, I'm not sure if that's realistic but they might be taking liberties so they could include a simultaneously performed routine for effect. It's not a different routine from the live one because the announcers and the ballet teachers comments sync up with Yuuri's performance.
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>>148316830
It's called "tries" because "I tried x" is basically a genre of viral videos in japan of people doing dances routines, drawings, making things, ect.
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>>148316058
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that person mistaking taking a quad to a competition with being able to execute it? The way the post is written it gives the impression none of these movements were ever landed correctly until recently. From my understanding they weren't used in professional competition because of the difficulty involved but the skaters can and do land them outside of it.
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>>148316761
I've only ever seen one set of routines used for the full season (sometimes as long as two years in a row), so what he skated at the first Grand Prix is probably still what he'll skate at the GPFinals.
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>>148314894
Good work anon.
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>>148317094
That's nice, how does that imply he's as good as Victor?
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I didn't think it would happen but YOI is shaping up as a promising contender for AOTS.
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>>148316972
I said straight because the people before his post were all gay posting, I don't mind straight or gay romance, I just disliked the idea of pushing a longer romance with a happily married woman, it would be different if Nishigori acted like a bad husband but he seems like a nice guy now.
I'd be fine with baiting with Victor or gaining a new girl as a fan but a married woman who is happy with her life is over the line; besides it looked like he was just looking for closure with that interrupted confession, so I don't know why that anon wants romance with the childhood friend.
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>>148316830
They did showed him struggling with the routine, he didn't seem as light as Victor.

>>148317098 is right, the post is written as if Yuri was able to copy it, but he really wasn't, he tried. He did ok, probably. But you could tell the difference in skill.

>>148317166
I see this makes sense.
Then I guess that part its fine.
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is viktor balding?
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>>148317235
The point is there's no nuance or implication to the fact that the word 'tries' was used, it doesn't back up what you're saying.

I'm sure the series will clarify how Yuuri compares to Victor at some point, this episode didn't really make it clear although we can assume Victor's the more skilled one. The ballet teacher said that Victor's performance would suit someone younger and more naive, obviously referring to Yuuri, so I think the focus will be more on what sort of performances their personalities lend themselves to than the difference in their abilities.
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>>148317261
>I said straight because OTHER people were gay posting

That doesn't even make sense, atleast you tried though.

I agree that Yu-chan seems happy with Nishigori and I doubt she'll end up with Yuri and that's fine but he clearly still likes her and adding a new romance would pull focus away from what the show should actually be focusing on.

I don't care about baiting. It's going to happen either way, but people being snarky at others just because of their bias shipping tendencies gets old really fast.

Enjoy the fanservice, it's a fujobait show afterall. Taking it seriously when you know damn well there won't be any serious ships is what ruins the fun.
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>inb4 there's a scene that shows he wasn't even about to confess to her, he was just about to confess about how he's always wanted to be able to show his skating skills to his idol and how he pussed out when given the chance to do it
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>>148317466
>it doesn't back up what you're saying so that must mean he's just as good by default

k.

>I'm sure the series will clarify how Yuuri compares to Victor

It already did. Victor is a legend and Yuri did horribly in the competition. I honestly don't understand where this insistence that he's anywhere near his level comes from. It's a story about an underdog MC who has to get better as the series goes on. Victor obviously thinks he has potential, but if he were already at his level we wouldn't even have a story.
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>>148317498
Dude that guy wanted him paired with a girl, and everyone else in the start of the thread were talking about Victor so that meant he didn't want any homo and wanted to force a hetro pairing with Yu-chan, I don't want any romance. It feels like you keep misunderstanding what I said for some reason.
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>>148317734
>wanting him paired with a girl that he canonly likes means he must hate homo!

Just stop. You couldn't get any more fujo if you tried.
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>>148317772
My heart.
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>>148317734
Yuri is straight, shipping him with Victor is more forced than the Yu-chan pairing.
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>>148317810
>>148317832
I said that if that anon was desperate for straight romance then he should wish for a new girl instead of Yu-chan, I never said he hated homo I said that he did not want any homo, why do you want me to be a fujo so badly?
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>it's a shippingshit thread
Just stop.
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How many episodes will there be? It's just been one episode and people have so much faith there won't eventually be new female characters as love interests. Tread with caution.
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>>148317832
Stop anon, you're trying to be logical in a fujobait anime thread.
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>>148317699
Why are you ignoring half of what I said? You're literally imagining any 'insistence' on my end about Yuuri being on Victor's level, I said we can assume Victor's the more skilled one. But the episode showed that Yuuri fucked up because of nerves rather than a lack of skill, and that his ability to imitate Victor's routine is something special. It wasn't clear how big the gap between them is but it's not just 'potential' on Yuuri's end, he's already 23 and a professional. He should already be close to reaching his potential at that age and experience level, but he needs to get over his psychological issues.
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>>148317949
There's DT'sister.
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>>148317772
> 27 year old Russian man getting drunk on sake
Suspension of disbelief is ruined.
>that last panel
Oh wait, I guess it's okay.
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>>148316830
>It caught Victor's eye sure (we still don't know exactly why), but people are just delusional if they think the MC is going to be on the same level as the legend mentor character right off the bat. I also don't know why they think this would be a good thing as there's already a skilled prodigy character as a main.

The whole point is that the shows and promo has been hinting that Yuuri is actually quite talented, just that he's a complete headcase when it came to high level competitions like the Grand Prix and above. He does a rep for being a "glass heart".
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>>148317832
>Yuuri
>straight
>has the bedroom of a fourteen year old Viktor fangirl

He may be straight, but he's undeniably a faggot.
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>>148318011
>it's just the psychological issues

This right here is the insistence I'm talking about. You are literally saying that Yuri is "close to Victor's level" just based on the fact that he's a pro too. It's reaching of the highest level.

Obviously he has issues holding him back from unlocking his full potential, but he was surprised at Yurio's jumps and even asks him for tips. If he's not even at his level, there's no way he's anywhere near Victor's.
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>>148317699
Not that anon and clearly no one is on Victor's level, but Yuri's place in the competition was a not a measure of his skill. He failed because he choked, thanks to his dog dying and other shit, not because he was the least capable.
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>>148318285
I think that's most of the reason why all the most impressive parts of the Yuri/Victor performance were shown by Victor. Yuri probably didn't do them as well. He's great, but he's not Victor.

I wouldn't be surprised if they showed bits of Yuri fucking up them up a little in the next episode while Victor explains what he's done wrong. Bonus if Yurio is also there and being a dick about it.
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>>148318334
>mfw Yuuri's parents telling him that Vicchan died just before an important competition.

Damn, kid. Have enough sense to do it after the competition, especially if you know what type of people your kid is.
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>>148318078
3 probably. When he says he'll put Yuri on the medal stand.
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>>148318475
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>>148317832
Liking a girl doesn't automatically means he can't like a guy. And considering how Yuuri acts around Victor, it is hard to say that he's all no-homo,
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>>148315307
I kept forgetting to check it out. Thank you for sharing.
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>>148318121
I'm sure Yuri is talented enough, he's a professional afterall. The point is him unlocking his full potential and not being held back by his issues. He's supposed to become even BETTER than he is now, him already being high level enough to match Victor's skill serves no point in the narrative.

Especially because they have Yurio to contrast with him. He's the kid with raw talent. Even in their competition, Yuri makes mistakes but Victor chooses him in the end because of the emotional aspect. There would no point to this contrast if Yuri was Victor's skill level already.
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>>148317832
Bis exist desu.
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>>>148318519
That's just fujobait, though.
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>>148318600
I guess we'll find out next week if it's just fujobaiting or not.
Personally, I think it'd be really interesting to have a sports anime (with fantastic animation) with a main character who just happens to be bi, but it probably is all queerbaiting with no substance.
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>>148318334
He's obviously capable, that seems to be the whole point. I just don't know why people are making a big deal out of his skill like it even fucking matters in the first place.

The only time it seems to be relevant is when comparing him to Yurio to show the raw talent contrast.
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>>148318570
Not really. They either want attention or are homos in denial.
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>>148318600
My point remains. The show isn't going to make Yuuri win the Vicbowl outright. If we're lucky, it would be a relationship similar to Kotetsu and Barnaby in Tiger and Bunny.
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>>148315307
story behind this please?
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Ugh, four days until the next episode, I can't take this.
>>148318708
I don't think there is a story behind it. It was an animated short for a film festival, just like Me!Me!Me!
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>>148318661
No, it's definitely fujobaiting. I blame Korra for giving you people hope. Japan is not America, they'd never go full gay unless they wanted to start a media shitfest and I doubt the show's creator want any drama surrounding the show.
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>>148318285
Of course he's 'close' to Victor's level, they're in the same fucking competition. They are literally competing as equals. Victor is above him, but he's not so far above him that Yuuri can be reduced to just having potential rather than being a talented, experience professional athlete himself. And in a narrative sense, it's obvious the story has made Yuuri's nerves the problem rather than his abilities. That's why it explained that he bombed in the competition because of nerves, and that's why they showed that he was able to do Victor's routine.

You're overreacting about these extremely moderate comparisons. Nobody is saying that Yuuri is better than Victor or his equal. But you are acting like Yuuri is such an amateur that they can't even be compared, which isn't the case.
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>>148318443
This was super shitty parenting, you just don't do that.
But maybe he ask to see the dog in video call for good luck and the parents choked and it just spilled out, or something like that, because I can't see a parent telling that to a kid when they know he needs to concentrate.

>That part where people kept asking him about his future and he kept thinking about his Vichan
Sadness.
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>>148318766
>What is Samurai Flamenco
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>>148318801
a flop

and not homo
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>>148318801
Not homo, read the interview. At least use something with actual gayness like Eva or No6.
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>>148318600
Very heavy fujobait.

>Victor: Fine. Yuuri, what about you? What do you want to do if you win this competition?
>Yuuri: I...want to eat katsudon with you. I want to win and win and win, and eat more and more katsudon with you! So I'll do 'eros'! I'll destroy it, with every fiber of my being!
>Victor: Great!! I absolutely love that!

>Yuuri: Ah, umm, I'm...I'm going to become a super delicious katsudon. So...so please keep your eye on me--and on me alone. Promise me!
>Victor: Of course. I love katsudon.

>Yuuri, having stepped out onto the ice to start his 'erotic' skating routine, after telling Victor to watch him and him alone: I know...who I'm skating for...
>Victor: *whistles suggestively*
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>>148318902
fatty thinks of food as sexy

but of course.
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>>148318902
He's skating for the girl he loves, just like he did in the first episode. Yu-chan is his eros.
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>>148318708
>>148318756
I heard it was supposed to be about Yuzuru and Daisuke Takahashi. I heard that Yuzuru was inspired by the guy.

For people who are not into fagskate, Daisuke was Japan's best skater before Yuzuru showed up as he was the first to medal in the event for the men's program. His peak years were around 2004-2010.
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>>148318770
I'm not acting like that at all. You're the one acting like Yuri's skill is already close to Victor's level when that's clearly not the case as they have a literal prodigy whom he's not as talented as who is also not at Victor's level yet.

All the Victor/Yuri comparisons have nothing to do with skill and are of the emotional level. "this would pull on my heartstrings more.." and Victor seemingly abandoning a prodigy for him clearly show that Victor didn't choose to train Yuri for any raw talent, but the potential he probably sees in him.

He's not an amateur in the grand scheme of things and I never said he was, so you can stop being overly defensive of your headcanon that serves no point in the story.
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>Yuri on Ice
>It's about faggots
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>>148318831
>>148318862
The backpedaling of some retard can not make that ending any less homo when a naked dude tries to rape the goodness into the antagonist and then declares his love for another dude while at the same time saying he wants to be the dude's pretend girlfriend.
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>>148318964
>I’ve always idolized him so much, I never had the courage to speak to him before now… So for him to be so close to me now… Yeah! I’m sure my heart is beating so fast because I’m so happy now!
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>>148318902
He's probably skating for himself. That's kind of the point of his character isn't it? To learn how to do that?
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>>148319086
>confirmed not homo
Fujos BTFO as hard as hetfags were when the triplets appeared. Incestfags are next, Italy's sister will have a boyfriend or something.
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>>148318708
It's a short but I don't think there's an official synopsis. I saw it as a young skater finding himself. There's only one character but he meets himself at different stages of his life.
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>>148319014
You're the only one arguing a headcanon here. You're ignoring what the series chooses to show us (Yuuri accomplishing a feat on par with Victor, Yuuri losing due to nerves) to assert that their skill levels are significantly disparate and all Victor sees is potential rather than talent. Nothing like that has ever been explicitly stated in the series itself. It wouldn't be illogical if that was the case and maybe it will be confirmed later, but so far you are making more assumptions than anyone who tries to argue that Yuuri's issues are predominately psychological.
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>>148319055
>Faggots on Ice
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>>148319146
He's skating for Victor to convince him to stay instead of fucking back off to Russia to coach the Fairy.
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>>148319193
>>148319014
Ladies, ladies, calm down. There's only been one episode out so far, save your dumb headcanon arguments until we've seen more.
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I'm going to post stuff.
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>>148319415
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So much fanart already. Amazing.
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>>148319450
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>>148319521
the squat
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>>148319193
>predominately psychological
>predominately

Nice backpedaling, but I agree. That's the main point of his character. Him choking because emotions, him being compared to Victor in an emotional way, Victor flying off to Nipland to train him because of this.

I'm sorry but there's nothing to suggest Victor wants to train Yuri because of any raw talent. That's not the point of Yuri's character. They're covering that theme with Yurio. I'm sure Yuri's good, otherwise Victor wouldn't bother but that's not his main focus.

You are literally reaching so hard to support your headcanon whereas I'm just going by the simple themes they have already clearly laid out for the viewers.

Again, I never said Yuri wasn't good. Just that he's obviously the least skilled of the three at this point. There's nothing wrong with that, so I really don't get why you are so triggered by it.
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>>148319589
>>>/tumblr/
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>>148319252
Sounds like he grew some balls so yes, he's skating for himself.
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>>148319673
So?
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>>148317772
Source? Nothing comes up with reverse search.
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>>148319808
Go back to your cancerous shithole and stay there.
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>>148319607
>there's nothing to suggest Victor wants to train Yuri because of any raw talent
And there's nothing to suggest it's because of potential alone either. We don't fucking know yet, the series has clarified neither Victor's motivations nor the difference in skill level. All we have is assumptions, you're the only one who seems to think his assumptions are already fact.
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>>148319927
>yearning
>interested
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>>148319927
Why is Yuuri scared of the tiny Slav?
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>>148319808
Are people making fan merch for this already? Incredible.
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>>148319450
I enjoyed this one the most.

>>148319927
I want someone to love fairy too. Right now it seems like a marriage with a third wheel.
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>>148320048
Fairy may be young but his skill at Russian intimidation techniques is not to be underestimated
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>>148319959
Why? For posting art I find there?
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>>148320159
He would be a good agent for the KGB.
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>>148319607
>>148319969
Clearly it's because the piglet gives him a boner.
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>>148319808
Fuck off
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>tumblr image dump
Making good on that promise I see.
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Is Victor's routine to an existing song or was it made for the anime?
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>>148320245
Ran out of decent tumblr content. Now dumping Pixiv.
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>>148320247
I heard all the songs you hear on the anime are originals. Which is pretty cool since a majority of songs used in fagskate are free domain classical pieces.
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>>148319774
"I want to show you something. Please watch. Look only at me"
>He loves Yu-chan and is doing it for her sake!!
"I want to show you something. Please watch. Look only at me."
>He is refering to himself and not Victor!
Nice logic there
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>>148320290
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>>148319969
>there's nothing to suggest it's because of potential alone either

What is a Yurio?

He literally left the raw talent prodigy to train him. Victor's not looking for skill in Yuri, he already had that.

>Victor's difference in skill level
>assumptions

Yuri's not as skilled as Yurio, who is not as skilled as Victor. We already know this.

>you're the one who seems to think assumptions are fact

I'm only stating what we already know. You're the one pushing your headcanon that has nothing to back it up or has been contradicted already in canon.

I suggest you take your own advice and chill until the episodes come out.
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>>148320290
Stop dumping art
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>>148320296
Fuck. So they hired some Italian singer just for this. OST on sale when?
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>>148320048
because Yuri is a little bitch. Yurio literally had to stand on his tip-toes to yell in his face and Yuri still shit his pants.

Yurio is an angry kitten, he just needs good pettings.
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>>148320380
I think I read somewhere it was a Japanese Opera singer singing in Italian.
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>>148320358
there is no need to be upset anon.
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>accepting tumblrposting
This is how it starts.
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>>148320159
Does someone have the webm of his surprisingly alpha limp-wrist?
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>>148320412
Wait, is his phone case patterned with his own skating costume?
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>>148320412
>his phone case is his own chest

I didn't think a diva could be so endearing.
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>>148320428
art is art, who cares where it's saved from?
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>>148320324
>he's doing it for Yu-chan!

I never said that and it was clearly a bait post, good job falling for it.

>he is referring to himself

Sorry to burst your fujo bubble, but the point of his character seems to be overcoming himself, not fucking Victor.
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>>148320428
It's probably that shitposter that derailed a thread some weeks ago with Tumblr gifs.
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>>148319521
>>148319589
Please don't. I'm not even saying it out of anything against you, but for the purpose of keeping the threads quiet and peaceful. Both genuine tumblrposters and people who want tumblr gone can never shut up once they start arguing, so please just don't even give the argument a space to take place in.
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>>148320416
You don't dump art just to keep a thread here alive. Lurk more before you post you dimwit.
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>>148320347
Do you even read the shit you're writing? My "headcanon" that you keep complaining about:
>We don't fucking know yet

Meanwhile your headcanon is the objective skill ranking of three characters and Victor's motivations, none of which have been explicitly mentioned in the series. I don't even give a shit about either of those things at this point, I'm just sick of your constant misrepresentations of my arguments and inability to comprehend what a headcanon is.
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>>148320428
>Starting with the tmlr boogieman

No, THIS is how it starts.
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>>148320490
spoilered for bulge
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>>148318902
I think that's a bit more than bait.
Sounds like full on flirting to me.
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>>148320645
Dante?
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>>148320412
>>148320489
Jesus fucking christ, how can he be so perfect? Hnngg
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>>148320501
Sorry its just both hilarious and tiering to always see a bunch of posts in every thread trying to insist that the show is about het romance over and over. It gets pretty annoying quickly

Also he literally says
"The person I'm skating for is.." while keeping eye contact with Victor
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>>148320686
It was on the Yuri on Ice pixiv tag, so Victor, I assume.
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>>148320412
>phone case of himself

Oh, Victor.
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>>148320645
Too manly.
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>>148320742
He is Russian.
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>>148320547
No, you got triggered that I pointed out your delusional headcanons for being just that and are now reduced to backpedaling and changing the subject.

>my arguments

You don't have any arguments when they've been contradicted by canon info so far.

>we don't know yet

I agree there's a lot we don't know yet and things are subject to change. Chill out and stop pushing your headcanons unless the episodes throw a bone your way to support them.
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Did Yuri jerk off on that room covered in Victor posters? Seems a little gay.
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>>148320717
It's not about het romance, but Yuri is in love with a woman, deal with it. There's no homo romance. Yuri wants the V, not the D.
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>>148320412
>the mentor is younger than me
Goddamn it, this is just sad.
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>>148320800
Yes, but he faps to a woman so it's okay.
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>>148320412
>the phone case
Hilarious.
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>>148320817
Yuri wants V's D.
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>>148320817
I don't get where people are getting "Yuri is in love with a woman" from. I know we're all used to everything revolving around dramatic high schoolers in anime, but having a crush on somebody when you're young and thinking they're still cute is not "love" to any adult.

It's a crush and those are fun and good, but no well-adjusted 23 year old is in "love" with only those qualifiers.
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>>148320817
Its okay anon, if thats what you need to tell yourself in order to justify watching a fujo show clearly aimed at women then that's okay.
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>>148320872
I can't believe this anime even managed to pander to my suspender fetish.
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How come Yuri is still completely clueless about Eros if he was in love with someone?
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>>148320717
Are you retarded? No one pushes het romance in these threads. It's a mass wank of gay shipping and an occasional het shipper here and there. and I'm sorry you're delusional enough to think a fujobait show will give actual gay romance.
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>>148320887
This. You idiots are self inserting too hard.
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>>148320915
Report and hide, friend.
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>>148320855
>Russian
>technically Asian
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>>148320918
It's the truth, Yuri is straight, the show being for fujos doesn't mean a shit. Eva is a show for straight male otaku but the one Shinji loves is Kaworu.
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>>148320937
Can you fuck off?
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>Victor has the most art on Pixiv and Twitter

Are fujos getting older and acquiring more sophisticated tastes? I figured Yurio would get the most everything.
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>>148320855
>this post

Tumblr, pls go and stay go.
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>>148320988
Russia does take up the majority of Asia's landmass.
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>>148321024
>I figured Yurio would get the most everything
How would he get fanart when the first episode just briefly introduced and is not about him?
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>>148321014
Can you go back to tumblr?
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Yuri being straight is a good thing. You don't get godly conversion fetish without one of the boys being straight first.

He loses while he's under pressure, now he'll lose when he's under cock. Cock pressure.
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>>148321024
>most hyped character
>gets more fanart than the character that showed up once so far

Gee, I dunno anon. I don't know how this happened either.
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>>148320937
>zero non BL anime with homo end
>fujos expecting a Victor and Yuri love story
Their tears and disappointment will be delicious.
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>>148321064
And?
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>>148321079
Because waify shotabait usually trump all, screen time be damned.
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>>148321104
giant Ruskie dong
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>>148321152
>>most hyped character

All fanart for YOI on pixiv/Twitter was previously just the Fairy until the show actually aired. Do you even fujoshi?
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>>148321159
They always are.

I don't mind fanservice, but people shitting up the threads with their srsbsns shipping shit are cancer.
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>>148321024
Well, they did showed him being young in all his bishounen glory.
He's also extremely likeable, that probably helped.
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>>148321165
>asking about fujos
>waify shotabait

You're mistaking male otakus from female fujos anon.
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>>148321212
There wasn't much fanart to begin with and still isn't. It really is too early to start talking about popularity at this point.
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>>148320937
Nobody said it was a gonna be an actual gay show? I said its tiering seeing people post the same "Its not gay he has a crush on a girl! He loves Yu-chan" and freak out whenever the thread mentions anything related to Victor and Yuri in the same sentence. Its not like fujos comes into the shitty het romcom threads and starts screaming the MC is gay over and over.
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I guess the cool threads we had the other day were a fluke.
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>>148321024
I'm more surprised that Yurio has so much after we've seen so little of him. Victor's appeal is obvious and he's had lots of good moments already.
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>>148321222
>extremely likable

He's charming as hell, but whether or not he's actually a likeable person is yet to be seen.
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>>148321273
Because romcom MCs aren't gay. But Yuri is straight. You're getting triggered by people posting facts.
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The Kazakh is cute
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I just want to have some comfy figure skating and story discussion here. I don't mind fanart dump either but aren't some of us are getting too serious and autistic about something not so relevant?
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>>148321281
This happens all the time with generals, idiot.
What the hell did you expect? Good discussion every time? People ran out of things to say on Wednesday.
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>>148321290
I like him a lot already. Bailing out on a promise and all.
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>>148321273
>it's not gay he has a crush on a girl

but this is canon. If you don't like it you can ignore it.

>het romcom threads

No one screams gay in those threads because the MC is canon straight. Just like in YoI.
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>>148321290
Charming would be a better word certainly.
But he was shown as being likeable within the world, everyone liked him and said only good things about him.
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>>148321334
I'm excited to meme on the Korean
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>>148321358
That's nice, but that doesn't mean he's a likeable person. Just that you have a bias towards him.
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The Thai is the brown boy right? He seems really cute.
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>>148321413
There's no set standard or time limit to likeability, the only measure is that he is liked. The Nip fandom loves him already, therefore he is likeable.
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>>148321336
Welcome to fujobait anime threads.
Actual discussion takes a backseat to gay posting and autistic shippers arguing with whoever triggers them.
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>>148321487
>there's no set standard to likeability

There kinda is though, that's how we gauge people as being good people or assholes.

>nip fandom loves him

That's nice, doesn't mean he's a likeable person.

I'm not even saying he won't be revealed to be a great person eventually, just that based on what we know it's way too early to tell. He has questionable decision making right now.
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>>148321336
These were never going to be comfy threads, we all knew that.

Just try to minimize the shitposting.
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>>148321387
>everyone said only good things about him

Which is why I'm leaning towards him having proper reasoning behind his questionable decisions. Until we see that, it's not a good thing to assume.
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Why are fujos so triggered by Yuri having a crush on Yu-chan? There are lots of shows they watch and love with female love interests or crushes, they should be used to it by now.
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>>148321585
>as being good people or assholes.
That's not likeability. There can be likeable bad characters and unlikeable good ones.

>doesn't mean he's a likeable person.
It does because that's literally what the word means. He is easily liked by the majority of the target audience and is currently the most popular.
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>>148321381
I'm not gonna try to argue with you anymore since you got your head in a dumpster. You're making it harder for yourself watching a fujo show while trying to insist that its not. If you get so upset by seeing two guys flirt then maybe you just shouldn't watch it?
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>>148321517
>>148321595
This thread sure was great until second half of it happened.
>fujobait anime threads.
There's a difference between being sarcastic and being autistic in that regard.
Anyway I expected worse even before coming to this thread so I can only wish for not getting worse.
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>>148321669
>they should be used to it

They're not. They never learn.
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>>148320413
You're right. Kubo wrote it, then it was translated into Italian, then sung by him.
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>>148321669
Personally I find it cute. It's just a crush and she's already taken, so who cares? Plus, she seems to really support him. She's a nice girl.
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The cast is very lively. It reminds me of Michicko to Hatchin. Sayo Yamamoto is good at giving characters energy.
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>>148321736
You're acting like popularity means anything. Assholes can be popular, doesn't mean they are likeable or good people within their respective shows.

I don't care if you say he's popular, but saying he's a likeable person is just your bias showing.
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>tfw wanted to buy it
>it's 120$
Poor fujos.
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>>148321757
Fujobait isn't and has never been full gay. Get over it.

>if you get upset by two guys flirt

I don't care if they have fanservice, I'm just not dumb enough to take it seriously and get triggered by canon facts.
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>>148321910
No offense dude, but your posts and insistence sound way more biased than anon's.
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>>148321764
>There's a difference between being sarcastic and being autistic in that regard

This is one of the smartest things I've read on the issue.
You're a wise anon, I just wanted to let you know.

>>148321910
You're both using a different definition for likeable,
he is likeable because people like him, whether that's warranted or not is a different issue.
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>>148321757
You can't argue because you have no arguments and are in denial about Yuri's crush. Keep telling yourself that he doesn't have feelings for Yu-chan, whatever helps you sleep at night.
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>>148321669
I haven't seen a single nip fujo getting triggered by that.
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>>148321910
Dude. The definition of likeable is that people easily like someone, and in this case they very clearly do. His popularity is one of the evidences of that.

And if you're talking within his respective show it's explicitly made clear that he is likeable.
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>>148321764
I don't care if people post about the fanservice, it's just the serious autistic shippers that ruin the fun. If you want to post how much you think Yuri faps to Victor, fine by me. It's when people seriously start snapping at others for challenging their delusions that ruins threads.

That and general derailing of actual discussion in favor of insipid ship posting.
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>>148322031
Nip fujos aren't retarded and know that fanservice is just fanservice. Western fujos on the other hand are braindead and won't stop bitching about "queerbaiting".
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>>148321960
>no offense dude

Fuck off.

>>148321966
>both using different definition for likeable

That's what I've been trying to explain to them.

>>148322048
I don't care about popularity, it's irrelevant to what kind of person he is as all kinds of characters can become popular.

>it's made clear that he is likeable

He's charming yes, but the show is just starting and there is much we don't know about him yet. He's clearly making some questionable decisions and depending on how that plays out he could be an asshole or mastermind of the show. I'm personally leaning towards the latter, but again, we don't know yet.
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>>148321736
>It does because that's literally what the word means
No, not really. It means they're easy to like, so that's usually the case, but by definition it's a trait that means means amiable, personable, pleasant, etc. It's not a measure of how well liked a person is (by either the audience or people in universe). Depending on the situation and the people surrounding them, they may be disliked no matter how good their personality is, or they may be well liked despite their openly unpleasant personality. You couldn't say an edgelord like Sasuke, for example, is likable just because Narutards love him.
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>>148322117
>Wanting canon gay is being braindead
Enjoy eating shit senpai
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>>148322175
>>148322182
>that means means amiable, personable, pleasant
Still fits him perfectly then.
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>>148322190
Stick to BL, expecting canon gay from anything else is retarded.
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>>148322175
>Fuck off.

No need to be so mad that you're getting rekt ITT.
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>>148322242
BL is boring shit, wanting something from popular media is normal.
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>>148322190
He never said there was anything wrong with wanting it, just that you retards convince yourself it's legit gay and not just fanservice and when they don't fuck you cry about being duped even though you were never promised anything real in the first place.

It's not "queerbaiting" because no one is stupid enough to get baited unless you are from tumblr.
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>>148322291
Being delusional isn't normal, sorry to burst your bubble. There's nothing wrong with wanting it, but don't throw a fit and force your delusions on everyone else.
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>>148321974
No fujos here have a problem with Yu-chan or his crush on her, most people here seems to like her. If anyone is in denial its you hetfags who keep coming to these threads saying he will marry her by the end of the season and that she's a main love interest all while getting upset by the fanservice.
Like I said, I don't know why you would watch a fujo show then try to insist that it isnt one. Its gonna be hard to keep that up as the show goes on you know?
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>>148321954
That's a lot cheaper than Japan's own anime-specific licensed apparel...
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>>148322324
>you were never promised anything real in the first place
>>148318078
This seems promising to me, fаm.
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>>148322291
I hope you enjoy your dead gays and bad ends because that's all you'll get from popular media. Kaworu, dead. Sensui, dead. Franz, dead and a cuck. Nezumi, ditched Shion. Hato, lost the bowl so hard he became straight.
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>>148322237
No argument there, I think he's an extremely likable character so far.
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>>148322417
You're acting like this show is babby's first fujobait or something, good god.
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>>148321524
Not ice-skating though
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>>148322237
He's charming, but he has some explaining to do about his decisions. I'm not saying he's a bad person, just that we don't know either way for sure at this point. You're the one insisting he's a good person when something was introduced that could suggest otherwise.

>>148322247
>getting rekt

/v/ babbies are up this late?
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>>148322543
His eyelashes are so long and his hands are so sensual.
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Expecting Yu-chan to be a major love interest is retarded. The crush is a quick aside for two purposes, one for the normalfags to convince themselves this isn't full homo trash, and the other for the fujos assuring them that lol jk that's it for the het, it got BTFO and the rest of the series will be homobait. There will be no further development for straight romance.

Expecting it to go full homo is just as retarded because no matter how excessive the bait will be, and it will be very very fucking homo, the show will still not cross the line.
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>>148322380
No one said he will marry her, just that he canonly likes her.

You're the one who seems to think fujobait fanservice is actual romance. Yu-chan is more of a love interest than Victor because Victor is not going to be an actual love interest.
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>>148322380
Hetfags have a confirmed crush on a girl. You fujos will get nothing. Hetfags' delusions are more canon than yours will ever be.
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>>148322543
I really wish I could like him but that receding hairline id disgusting as fuck.
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>this pedantic argument about likability

One of you is arguing that he's likable for the audience and the other is arguing that he's unlikable in-universe. You are both correct. Stop being retarded.
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>>148322556
>insisting he's a good person

Damn, anon. That's complete incomprehension of what I said.
>There can be likeable bad characters and unlikeable good ones.

My point is that the measure of a person's likeability is whether people actually find themselves liking him or not, which they obviously do in-show and out. Nothing to do with badness or goodness.

Another anon responded with >>148322182
and going by the three traits he mentioned, I still gauge Victor as likeable so far, questionable decisions or not.
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I'm going to marry Victor!
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>>148322778
Yuri pls. It's illegal in both your countries. Focus on skating first.
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>>148322778
I'm going to bully a fairy!
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>>148322543
>that ass
>those vulnerable expressions

muh dick
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>>148322595
If the show ever crossess the line I'll stop hetfagging and enjoy the homo, I promise. I'm not delusional. But right now my boy Yuri is a vagina man, he doesn't want any filthy dick.
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>>148322556
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
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>>148322849
(You)
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>>148322764
>You are both correct.

I agree and it's what I've been saying.

>>148322777
>nothing to do with badness or goodness

You're still talking about popularity. I'm talking about him being a good person and whether or not his actions warrants him being liked. There are plenty of charismatic characters who are secretly assholes.

>still gauge Victor as likeable, questionable decisions or not

and all I'm saying is it's too early to tell for sure, as another possible dimension to his character has been introduced to suggest otherwise. I'm not even saying he's bad, just like I don't think you should be saying he's good. Especially since you're clearly biased and flat-out admitted to ignoring his questionable decisions.
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>>148322832
If he doesn't get proper exposition and is just third-wheel to Victor/Yuri Cinderella story I will be pretty dissapointed.
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>>148321262
>There wasn't much fanart to begin with and still isn't
>still isn't

Go on twitter, nigra.
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>>148322849
While the show will never go full homo, it will, and is already going, full ambiguous. Meaning while it will never be officially confirmed, no one in their right mind will be able to deny the possibility that Yuri is bi just from the sheer amount of dokis he has for Victor.

Claiming that he can only be straight is as retarded as claiming he's homo. The creators very clearly want to leave it open. This isn't shounen fishing for extra fujobuck dollars. This was made for the fujos right from the start.
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>>148322959
All they know how to do is browse tumblr for art.
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>>148322694
>You're the one who seems to think fujobait fanservice is actual romance.
Once again, I never said anything like this. You're pretty much arguing with yourself at this point y'know?
What I said was the same as >>148322595 and that its tiering seeing normalfags post in every single thread about how Yu-chan will get together with Yuri and try to insist that this isnt a fujo show but a straight romcom one so they don't have to feel bad about watching gay shit. We all know its just fujobaiting, of course Victor and Yuri is not gonna be canon, that never happens.
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>>148320923
>suspenders fetish

Mein nigger.
Yurio is my favorite too, I feel so blessed.

Long-haired Victor is a thing of dreams as well.
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>>148322959
What's the best way to browse twitter for art? I've made an account specifically for this series, but so far all I'm doing is searching ユーリ and looking at the top photos. I haven't seen the one you just posted, so it looks like I'm missing out on some good shit.

Pixiv is so much easier, wish nips weren't on twitter more these days.
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>>148322959
What's going on in this image?
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>>148323131
You look for people who retweet art and go on a follow chain.
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>>148323003
>full ambiguous

Fanservice isn't ambiguous. You can argue that IRL a guy like that would possibly be bisexual, but taking fanservice as a serious part of characterization for a character is retarded.
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>>148322887
>I don't think you should be saying he's good
Then you should be happy because I have never said that.

The word has broader meanings, as words often do, and Victor is likeable by several definitions, including this basic one: easily liked. It's right there in many dictionaries. Accept that I do not subscribe to your limited definition of likeability and move on, as I now will.
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>>148319450
>career-ending injury
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>>148323131
>find one fanart of it on twitter
>go to the source
>they usually have other retweeted YOI fanart on their feed
>keep doing this forever
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>>148323045
No one says Yuri is going to marry Yu-chan.

>try and insist it isn't a fujo show

No one said it wasn't, just that it's not going to be full gay. You're the one who thinks people aren't allowed to point that out.
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>>148323253
Also check the likes. They usually have more shit in there.
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>>148323243
>I don't subscribe to your limited definition of likeablility

You clearly are biased and only "subscribe" to the definition that fits your image of a likeable Victor. All I'm doing is pointing that out.

I hope he turns out likeable, but I'm not saying either way as there's info that suggests a possible unlikeable aspect to him.
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>>148323296
Please quote where I said it was gonna be a full gay show because like I just mentioned, I never ever said that. You're making stuff up then arguing with yourself about it.
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>>148323214
Depends on the type of fanservice. If it's silly shit followed by n-o homo tho scenes I'd agree with you, but that's not what happened. Victor and Yuri's relationship will drive the plot, and their bonding isn't just a joke. For example, Yuri wanting Victor to stay because he wants to spend time with him is a serious emotional motivation. It's not necessarily gay, but you can't argue it isn't either, and the creators need fujobucks too hard wreck it with "but he only likes him as a bro."
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>>148323443
I never said you said that. Just that you're getting mad when people are saying it's not full gay.

>REEE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THAT CUZ ITS A FUJO SHOW REEE GO BACK TO ROMCOM THREADS

People are allowed to point out canon facts. Just like you are allowed to fangirl about fanservice.
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>the arguments in this thread
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>>148323529
Why's this fairy so pouty?
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>>148322931
Gook is one of the most attractive characters but he's a Gook, a woman hater and has a shit personality. What a waste of character design.
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>>148323611
>a woman hater and has a shit personality

Wait, really?
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>>148323463
>you can't argue it isn't

I can, because he canonly likes a woman. Until he canonly likes a guy too, you can't say he's bi.

You can speculate that they would make a good couple based on interaction, but that's literally shipper territory of arguing. It shouldn't be used as actual indication of canon romance. The best you can say is it has potential IF he were ever stated to be bisexual. Until then, it's just fanon shipping and nothing more.

Once again, fujobaiting isn't canon shipping. It's fanservice. Free! even did it with GouxRin and that one guy was clearly shipping them and releasing art of her helping exercise lewdly but they are canon brother/sister relationship.

That's the problem with shippers, they think the creators providing fanservice means anything other than that. I'm sure tons of fujo creators actually ship their characters, but that doesn't mean they are gay in canon.
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>>148323689
Why does his sexual orientation matter so much?
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>>148323611
>woman hater

wat

>>148323669
I'll watch if my waifu Yuzuru is competing.
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>>148323739
He's competing in all of the Men's Frees and Shorts unless something bad happens and he chokes.
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>>148310146
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>>148323495
Well its nice that you at least can admit you're arguing with yourself at this point. I don't understand how you jump to the conclusion that me saying its tiering seeing people say Yu-chan is the main love interest and insisting this isnt a fujo show is the same thing as saying its gonna be full gay.

I think this is the third or fourth time I say this now but maybe it will finally stick this time: Nobody here thinks Victor and Yuri is gonna be canon. We all know its just fujobait. We're all just trying to enjoy the show.
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>>148323669
Oh, that sounds fun. Will it be streamed anywhere?
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>>148323799
Oh shit, I just noticed the other photo of long haired Victor.
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>>148323721
It's not about sexual orientation, it's about pushing delusions that have no legitimate basis in canon.

I would give zero fucks if he was canon gay and sucked Victor's dick as long as the show was good.

I don't mind people fangirling as long as the threads have good discussion too. Which is an issue, because most of the "discussion" in threads like these is just insipid ship shit and when you try to actually be serious people get angry because you challenge their buttsex delusions in favor of a more realistically canon idea.

A lot of people are really chill, but it's the serious business shippers who actually think they are gay and won't allow anything else to be posted suggesting or stating otherwise is what ruins threads.
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>>148323689
If thats your argument then you might as well say him liking Yu-chan isnt canon either because he never finished the sentence. If only a concrete "I like you" counts as canon then Yuri doesn't have a crush on nobody.
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>>148323847
CBC Sports usually streams it if you can get a Canadian VPN.
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>everyone is going crazy for Victor or Yurio
I'm just watching it for this swiss cutie.
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>>148323805
You're the one who created a strawman to argue against. Everyone knows it's a fujobait show and no one said Yuri is going to marry Yu-chan.

You got mad that people actually ship het when that rarely happens in the first place in these threads. Just because it's a fujobait show doesn't mean people can't have their opinions on it. As long as they admit it's fujobait, who even cares? Only people like you get triggered over a few fucking comments and act like only fujoshi can post in these threads and must enjoy the fujobaiting.

No one is telling you you can't enjoy the show, you're the one acting like the police force of fujo threads.
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>>148323689
>you can't say he's bi.
Of course you can't prove it, but that's not the issue. The whole point of ambiguity is that you can't prove he's not, as liking a woman only proves he's either straight OR bi. If he's canon bi, then it's no longer ambiguous.

And since the core of the show is him and Victor, coupled with questionable statements from them that they don't clarify with no homo or treated as a joke, it's something that can't just be dismissed. Gou/Rin art is no proof because it's just art. This is in the actual episodes.

Yuri didn't even get to complete his confession, it was just lots of blushing and affection, yet it's taken for granted that he likes her. He blushes at Victor too and holds strong attachment for him, hugs him and wants to do things together. It's retarded to consider that as homo confirmation, but you can't just categorically dismiss all that as not counting for anything either.
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>>148323799
>long-haired Victor with his hair down

He's not even my favorite, but damn does he turn me on the most.
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>>148324072
>predatory facial hair

into the trash it goes
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>>148302904
Is this from the gaidens? I watched them but I don't remember this happening.
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>>148324072
>those eyelashes
>that moustache
>blonde hair with black eyebrows
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>>148323689
>I can, because he canonly likes a woman. Until he canonly likes a guy too, you can't say he's bi.

Being bi doesn't mean you dual-wield crushes nigga. It just means you have the capacity to be into someone regardless of whether they're male or female. You can have a crush on a lady and still find men attractive.
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>>148324136
>ywn run your hands through his glorious locks
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>>148324072
He's good but the design is slightly awkward.

Hard Virgin best boy.

Gookshit worst corea.
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>>148324175
How can one man be this pretty?
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>>148321669
>Why are fujos so triggered by Yuri having a crush on Yu-chan? There are lots of shows they watch and love with female love interests or crushes, they should be used to it by now.
I feel like you care more about Yu-chan than Yuri does.
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>>148323739
>>148323790
>other people who watch real actual people figure skating

I've found you at last.
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>>148324137
>>148324162
>>148324210
>hating on princess eyes
fools
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>>148324089
You should calm yourself down a bit dude, maybe take a break from the thread.
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>>148323936
>he doesn't like Yu-chan

Really? This is your counter-argument?

>>148324116
No, him liking a woman doesn't mean he's "possibly bi" by default. That's a shit argument. Unless he's canonly stated as liking men, then he doesn't like men. Period. He has been shown to have a sexual preference, and it's towards women.

>it's taken for granted that he likes her

because he clearly does. Comparing it to fanservice in a fujobait show is not getting you anywhere.

>you can't dismiss it

I can because it's a fujobait show. The fact that you make all these reaching tumblr-tier arguments towards him liking men too just show how desperate you are and highlights why people call your ilk delusional.
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>>148324163
That's nice. Japan isn't tumblr, they don't give a single fuck about what you just posted.
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>>148323934
>>I don't mind people fangirling as long as the threads have good discussion too. Which is an issue, because most of the "discussion" in threads like these is just insipid ship shit and when you try to actually be serious people get angry because you challenge their buttsex delusions in favor of a more realistically canon idea.

Are you aware the director is a fujoshi and probably prefers the homo pairing?
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>>148324420
>tumblr invented bisexuality
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>>148324378
>No, him liking a woman doesn't mean he's "possibly bi" by default. That's a shit argument. Unless he's canonly stated as liking men, then he doesn't like men. Period. He has been shown to have a sexual preference, and it's towards women.

Pretty much. I'm tired of people forcing their homo shit in every thread.

You can't start an Gundam thread without people shipping Yamagi with Shino, or Eva and Shinji and Kaworu or N.6 and Shion and Nuzumi.
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>>148323934
>because most of the "discussion" in threads like these is just insipid ship shit

Yeah, unlike the rest of /a/ which is never insipid. "I want to fuck so and so" and discussing fetishes is top intellect.
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>>148324429
Are you aware that it doesn't mean jack shit because they're not going to make them gay? Are you aware that the director actually put work into the characters and show besides buttsex fanservcie?

They are pandering to you sure, but that's not all the show is about. Go read BL if that's what you want.
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>>148324310
>tfw no fanarts with the waifu
It's suffering
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>>148323611
I don't know if we can say until we actually meet him

Do you not like stoic characters or something?
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>>148324499
Shipping, homo or het, will always be part of threads. You can't stop it, so I suggest you just accept it and move on.
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>>148324510
I guess that excuses your retarded behaviour then? and I never mentioned the rest of /a/, stop being a child because you're mad that someone is trying to encourage better quality threads.
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>>148319178
That's a nice way of looking at it too. For me it was about the MC struggling to reach the level of his idol. He trains and his idol ends up appearing because he thinks he's close to his level but actually he's not and the idol disppears. So he trains harder, and the handsome man appears again, only this time they do the whole routine because he did manage to reach his level. Then the MC disappears and the handsome guy is back on the ice, reminding us that he wasn't actually a real person, but the standard of ice skating the MC was struggling to reach ever since he watched him on TV that day.
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>>148324567
He's gook and that makes him shit.
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>>148324612
>I suggest you accept it and move on

There's nothing wrong with wanting better quality threads, fuck off with your shitpost.
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>>148324378
He's not canonly stated to like women either. It's only inferred from his reaction to Yu-chan, which is reasonable.

What isn't as reasonable is not only refusing to do half as much with his reactions to Victor, but insisting everything is just fanservice when their interaction treated pretty seriously by the show itself.
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>>148324641
Nobody's mad, I just thought that was a funny criticism to make considering /a/'s usual standard of discussion.
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>>148320084
>thrid wheel
But he is, hell it's likely the fairy's only purpose is to cockblock the Victuri. Otherwise there'd probably be onscreen gay sex every episode from now .
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>>148324532
>Are you aware that it doesn't mean jack shit because they're not going to make them gay?

Are you aware that ambiguity exist?

If the director and creator is a fujoshi and makes an anime about naked guys rubbing each others and breath in other face maybe then her preference for the characters aren't the same as yours.

Claiming shipping a dude with a gay posters of another dude with a girl they married to Chad is more "a realistic canon idea" over the creator tastes is fucking retarded. You need to get over the fact that not everyone shares your mindset when writing stuff.

>They are pandering to you sure, but that's not all the show is about. Go read BL if that's what you want.
No claims is about gay romance, you fucking idiot.
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>>148324499
>Eva and Shinji and Kaworu or N.6 and Shion and Nuzumi.
Haha, nice one.
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>I'm gonna watch this fujo show then go online and get mad at people talking about the fanservice
Why are you making this so hard for yourself? Its a fujo show, what were you expecting?
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>>148324612
All these characters are straight, so it's wrong to homo ship them.
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>>148324757
Hetfags are weirdly insecure creatures.
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>>148324756
Unless he's canonly stated as liking men, then he doesn't like men.
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>>148324717
It is reasonable because it's a fujobait show. The characters never canonly like men. That's just it. You either accept it or continue with your delusions I guess.
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>>148324707
You fuck off with your shit complaining about shipping all damn time. If you want to discuss something about the story, it's potential or characters then start it. Shipping will always be part of the threads as I said, if you don't like it then leave or stop responding to them.

>>148324791
Sexuality never stopped people from shipping the characters they want to.
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>>148324532
No one is saying they're gay, they're saying its ambiguous. Which is part of the work the creators put into the characters.
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>>148324749
>hell it's likely the fairy's only purpose is to cockblock the Victuri.
I call bullshit on this, he's one of the three main characters so he'll obviously get his own focus throughout the show
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>>148324859
>>>148324717
>It is reasonable because it's a fujobait show. The characters never canonly like men
>Every write is a straight man that writes straight man
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>>148322931
>dog eater
Disgusting.
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>>148324791
Why should that stop anybody? Most characters don't canonly take tons of dick from fat faceless men, but that never stopped anyone from drawing doujins where they do. Sexual fantasies don't have to take canon into account.
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>>148324753
>a more realistic canon idea

I was actually talking about the discussion of Yuri learning to skate for himself in the end instead of skating for Victor's dick but nice projecting fujoshit.

>ambiguity

There is no ambiguity in fujo shows. Only fanservice and pandering.
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>>148324859
>It is reasonable because it's a fujobait show. The characters never canonly like men. That's just it. You either accept it or continue with your delusions I guess.

So Battery and the Frees are straight?

Woah, this changed my life.
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>>148324662
I like that too.
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>>148324954
>There is no ambiguity in fujo shows. Only fanservice and pandering.
Eh, sure mate.
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>>148324808
I almost feel bad for them because knowing what happens in later episodes I can say its gonna become much harder to convince yourself the fujobait scenes aren't gay and that Yuri still somehow will end up with Yu-chan.
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>>148324859
No. 6 exists desu.
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>>148324958
MakoHaru is the only canon gays in Free, everyone else is straight.
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>>148324808
says the delusional fujo responding to a strawman post

>>148324791
No one said you can't ship them, but keep that victim complex going.
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>>148324997
I don't, this happens every fucking season there is a fujo show.


Remember K threads?
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>>148324958
>Battery
>gay
Apply yourself.
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>>148325077
I don't even ship anybody right now. You're proving what I said.
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>>148324859
>>148325043
There was Nabari too, but the manga author is a self-proclaimed x-gender so it's no surprise about canon homos.
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>>148325119
>From the author of N.6
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>>148325120
>I don't even ship anybody right now

That's nice, you were still responding to a strawman post.
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Just last season we had a character canonly confirmed as gay. On top of that, he's from a franchise where there was already a canon gay guy.
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>>148325083
I wasn't referring to anyone specific except the people posting those sort of comments.
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>>148325169
Calm yourself. It's not that dire.
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>>148325184
>Just last season we had a character canonly confirmed as gay.
Wrong. It's never confirmed he likes men, just that he likes Munakata.
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>eternal argument over whether it's okay or not to ship this or that
I'm tired of this shit, it's the same fucking backward discussion in every single fujo show's thread, good thing the thread reached bump limit.
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>>148325184
>canon gay guy
What?
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>>148323689
until he displays actual sexual arousal towards a woman he can potentially be an asexual hetero romantic, you're saying.

we can go deeper
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>>148325235
Oh come on, straight guys don't cleavage.
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>>148325251
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>>148325237
Keep strawmanning. No one is saying you can't ship, just that even Japanese fujoshi aren't retarded enough to think fanservice equals canon gay.
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>>148325288
Japan doesn't care about your tumblr-tier arguments sorry.
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>>148325295
As long as there's ambiguity, there's no such thing as canon. It's just like trying to give a canon summary of what happened in the last episode of 91 days. The only truth is the one interpretation that suits you best (just like in real life).
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>cute childhood friend married the douchebag
I new this was going to be gay, so it shouldn't surprise me, but I'm still angry.

Overall it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
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>>148325295
Just stop already, you're embarrassing yourself at this point.
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>>148325377
>people's personalities remain the same from childhood to adulthood
Idiot.
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>>148325043
>>148325146
That's interesting, but you don't seriously think that means YoI is going to have a canon gay do you?
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>>148325295
No one is saying that here though. Just that he can be ambiguously bi, which he can.
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>>148325377
Nishigoro seems like a nice guy now, I think he's over his douchebag ways.
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>>148325415
No one has said that.
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>>148325353
There's no such thing as "ambiguously" gay or bi in fujoshi show. The fanservice and pandering is put there to be just that. Pandering and fanservice. There's no room for interpreting something you're not supposed to take seriously. Get over it tumblr.
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>>148325458
Now that you mention it, that's hilarious. Fucking Russian guys bringing their cold with them.
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>>148325415
No, just proving his assertion that it never happens is wrong.

Yuri on Ice is only canon ambiguity.
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>>148325509
That's like, your opinion man. To me it just sounds like you're trying to convince yourself you're not watching gay shit.
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>>148325509
Funny you say that, actually, because I feel like I've noticed a lot of creators being asked about this stuff lately and their answer is always "interpret it how you want". I think most of them just don't really care as long as they make money.

Unless it's the LoGH guy. He gets butthurt.
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>>148325549
>not watching gay shit

I'm not, I'm watching fujoshit. There's a difference that you're too retarded to understand.
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>>148325514
I didnt even notice that, pretty funny how the whole town gets covered in snow the day Victor arrives
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>reused animation in the OP
It's still good but is there any chance the guy just hadn't finished animating it and this will be changed in the coming weeks?
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>>148325581
I know, I just didn't care to be specific because I was talking to a retard.
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>>148325329
these threads are filled to brim with caring about irrelevant shit. thanks for the (You) :^)
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>>148325509
Yuri's extreme idolization of Victor and Victor helping him out of his slump is meant to be taken seriously.
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>>148325604
I remember some anon said it would be cool if they added more characters to it as they're introduced, I hope something like that is the case. It'd be a god tier OP if not for the reused footage.
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>>148325579
You forgot Kurata. There was also the Durarara guy who was retarded enough to BTFO the core of his fanbase.
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>>148325700
Now I hope they do this. That would be hype as fuck.
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>>148325700
>added more characters to it as they're introduced
A very good idea.

I like the song itself as well, but it's too short.
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>>148325446
Probaby, and that's nice, but the way the scene was presented was still infuriating.

>flashback to them being close as kids
>I've got a special routine I practiced just to show you
>I wanted to get back the feelings I had when we used to do this together
>she's amazed
>oh by the way, I have three kids and the father is the guy who bullied you in that flashback you just had

I wasn't expecting it to go anywhere given that this is a fujo show, but the way they set it up and knock it down is brutal.
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>>148325579
>interpret it how you want

Fujobaiting brings the fujobucks. I'm sure most of them are smart enough to take these comments with a huge grain of salt though, considering the genre and all.

There would be no fujoshi baiting shows if they just started making everyone canon gay. It would just be BL at that point. and that wouldn't fly for more mainstream shows like YoI. I don't know why tumblrinas can't understand these simple truths.
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>>148325792
I don't think anybody's really calling for every character in the world to be made canon gay, just saying that there's wiggle room for those who want it. Pretty harmless, definitely not worth all the arguments over it.
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>>148325774
It was meant to be brutal, the writer was playing with hetfags expectations. I laughed my ass off when it happened.
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Rate the other skaters

Italian Virgin >= Thai > Kazakh > * > Quebecois >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Worst Corea
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>>148325700
>>148325748
>>148325750
The OP was created by a single guy alone and took him two weeks. Unless more people are involved,the OP animation won't change.
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>>148325667
Not in a gay way though. I mean, you can fantasize all you want, that's the point of fujoshi shows and the fanservice. No one with a brain actually tries to argue they are canon gay because of it. They enjoy the fanservice and ship and whatever else, but no one is going to cry and shit all over the directors for not making them canon gay.

Unless you're a delusional retard from tumblr. Jap fujos know what they are getting into so they have nothing to complain about in the end. If they want gay sex they read BL.
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>>148325890
Virgin sicon>the rest>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gookshit
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>>148325898
Ah, didn't know that. That's some absolutely astonishing talent though. It's a really beautiful piece of animation.
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>>148325774
I didn't notice it before but it might be because the exact same scenario will happen in ep 3 except that Victor returns his feelings. They are at least going for a parallel with it considering Yuri says the same lines as he did to Yu-chan
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>>148325847
>wiggle room

It's called fanservice. You can theorize all you want, but don't get mad when someone points out that's all it is.
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>>148325898
>by a single guy alone and took him two weeks
Cool. I really appreciate his work.
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>>148325890
Everyone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>piss>>>>>>shit>>>>>>>>Dogeater
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>>148325976
Did anyone say any of the characters are canon gay in this thread though?
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>>148325869
>hetfags

Japanese people don't watch fujo shows for hetero. They were toying with the fujoshi. I'm sure they practically shit themselves when a female LI showed up and unclenched their buttholes in relief when her kids popped up.
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>>148325923
No one in this thread is trying to say it's canon gay. What people are saying is there's wiggle room for ambiguity given how and how much the show is pushing their relationship.

>b-but it's just fanservice
It's a serious attachment and treated as such. If taken out, the show collapses.
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>>148326004
Just let him be, he's been arguing with everyone in this thread about it for hours now despite nobody ever saying it in the first place.
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>>148325890
>>148325933
>>148325997
>this Korean bullying
Go on.
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>>148326004
They have been arguing for it the entire time.

>muh ambiguity
>muh bisexual headcanon is not disproven!

You can say he acts like a gay dude all you
want, but taking it seriously in a fujoshi show is just retardation.
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>>148326131
Being truthful isn't bullying
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>>148317018
Well there was that time Jason Brown's riverdance routine went viral.
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What is Victor's dog's name?
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>>148326085
It's a serious non-gay attachment. There is no wiggle room for it being canon gay. Go read BL if you want actual gay, because all you're getting from fujobait shows is pandering.
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>>148326149
Ah yes and its totally not retarded watching a fujo show then get mad at people shipping the boys together meanwhile insisting that the protaganist will end up with his old childhood crush that is already married with kids. Makes total sense.
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>>148325898
>single guy alone
>two weeks
Why couldn't they have given him a month, then?
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>>148325743
>Durarara guy
What did he do?
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>>148324175
God damn. Even if he turns out to be a Grade A douchebag, I'd still hatefuck him.
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>>148325890
Swiss angel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else
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>>148323980
I really want to watch this, but I'm not in Canada.
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>>148326226
>non-gay attachment
That's the thing, you have no proof and they won't give it to you even if they won't make it canon either. Yuri is going to keep blushing and acting like he has a crush and no matter how much you yell that it's just pandering, it will not be waved off as a joke by the show. There's no point insisting one way of the other.

>all you're getting from fujobait shows is pandering.
False, there have been fujobait shows that went further.
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>>148326243
No idea. It's how production works.

>>148326280
Didn't he shit on Shizuo/Izaya? I remember he said he doesn't like the pairing although he wrote a story of it as an April's Fool joke.
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>>148326280
He basically told his eager fujoshi fans they were retarded for thinking there was sexual tension between that blond guy throwing fridges everywhere and Izaya.
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>>148326459
Well he's not wrong, I thought it was retarded too.
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>>148326459
He's right, those fujoshits are retarded.
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>>148326457
>Didn't he shit on Shizuo/Izaya?
But that's just another pair fujos latched onto, not like actual maybe-homo pairs.
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>>148326447
>these delusions

I would feel bad for you, but you retards never learn. I'm just tired of you shitting up the threads.
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>>148326540
Nice empty counter-argument.
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>>148326459
>fujoshi getting BTFO

When will they learn?
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>>148325579
>Unless it's the LoGH guy. He gets butthurt.
Is there any source for this? In every interview I've seen the dude has been chill as fuck and perfectly fine with letting people who adapt his work gay it up a ton.
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>>148326459
Kek, what a retard.
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>>148326506
>>148326523
>>148326530
(You)
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>>148326506
>>148326523
No, the retarded one is the guy messing with the source of his income and forcing his own interpretation of his work on others.
They want to believe there is sexual tension between these two characters? Hell why not, as long as they enjoy themselves (and buy the merch).
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>>148326530
It doesn't matter. He knew a big part of the fanbase were fujos that gave him money because of this stupid ship. When he said that and then Verona appeared to have her shipped with Shizuo, that was the end. Fujos stopped caring for Durarara!!
At least he ships Gil/Enkidu so I have some hope for Fate/Strange Fake.
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>>148326555
I don't need to argue. It's not a BL. Your exceptional case of one or two shows going full gay aren't an argument sorry.
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>>148326586
(you) are retarded.
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>>148326559
When they start picking things that make sense unlike Shizuo/Izaya.
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>>148326602
>forcing his own interpretation
>of his OWN WORK

Sure is tumblr in here.
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>>148325509
>There's no such thing as "ambiguously" gay or bi in fujoshi show. The fanservice and pandering is put there to be just that. Pandering and fanservice. There's no room for interpreting something you're not supposed to take seriously. Get over it tumblr.

>Every writer is me and they only write straight characters
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>>148326604
God forbid an author actually have a set canon idea for his own characters. He's retarded as a businessman, but implying he should pander to retards is dumb.
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>>148326647
>what is death of the author
Fucking retard. If anything it's more immature to ruin everyone's fun (and the source of your income) for the sake of your cheap pride (b-b-but I didn't write fujoshit! reeeee).
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>>148326604
It matters. There's a difference between pure fujo delusions and shit like say, Shion/Nezumi. One is retarded and the other has backing in the source material.

>>148326602
Sure he's retarded for shitting on his source of income, but he's also not wrong.
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Straightfags are cancer.
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>>148306529
I don't fucking trust people who don't like dogs
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>>148326706
He's a retard for saying he didn't write gay because he didn't?

That has nothing to do with pride, I'm sorry you think your fun is more important than canon.
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>>148326706
Shizuo/Izaya is obvious a forced pairing, but I'm not sure why people are throwing a fit about it or why people are comparing it to Yuru on Ice pairings like the author are the same.
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>>148326760
(You)
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>>148326740
>Sure he's retarded for shitting on his source of income, but he's also not wrong.

Pretty much this. It's his series and he's allowed to clarify anything he wants to, but by that same token, fujoshi are well within their rights to give up on the series if they feel like they've been shit on.
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I expected normalfags to be upset because Yuri on Ice is a fujo show but they really outdid themselves in this thread
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>>148326790
They can do what they want with their money, but it's their own fault. No one should be blaming the author.
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>>148326771
Read the quote chain instead of reverse baiting. This discussion is a tangent.
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>>148326804
No one is upset about the show, just the delusional fujoshi.
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>>148326804
>I expected normalfags to be upset because Yuri on Ice is a fujo show but they really outdid themselves in this thread
It happens with every medium-high profile new fujo anime.

It will die by episode 3, maybe 5 max, I promise.
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>>148326814
The anime pandered hard to this pairing, Isn't it too late to back off and shit on fujos?
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>>148326790
Yes, though I can't help but laugh at the fujos too for choosing to believe in it in the first place. They could have picked something that made sense.

Good thing that won't be a problem with Yuri on Ice. Creators are begging to fujos to like Victor/Yuri.
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>>148326814
>No one should be blaming the author.
Kek, people blame authors for stuff all the time, not just fujoshit.

God forbids if X girl doesn't end up with Y or she's not a virgin.
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>>148326696
I never said he shouldn't. If anything he is free to make comments about how the relationships work in his work. I mean what is WSJ? Those nardo/sasugay fujos still go strong even if both have their woman and kids. The marketing idea is not call your fanbase names because of something they like. There is a reason fujos are fine with hetero pairings while keep enjoying their fujo fantasies.

>>148326740
As I said it still doesn't matter about what is canon or delusion. The idea of marketing plays here.
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>>148326883
>taking pandering seriously

They have no one but themselves to blame.
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>>148326883
The anime isn't the LN. It's the fujoshits fault for being retarded.
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>>148326906
If he called them names, that's obviously bad. but that has nothing to do with him clarifying his characters aren't gay. and we all know that's the real issue they took with it.
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>>148326884
No, I agree, Shizaya in particular is a really ridiculous ship. No chemistry there whatsoever, so I'm not sure why people ended up as invested in it as they did. It's one sided at the absolute most.

Agreed about YoI being a different case altogether. At least Victor and Yuri fucking like each other.
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>>148326906
I'm not talking about marketing, but what's in canon. However it's true that it's better to leave fujos to their delusions if franchises want to make money.
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>>148326849
Straightfags trying to chase out the fujos and insisting all the characters are straight seems more delusional I'd say. There is literally 20 other shows this season with a male protag and female love interests you can watch. Yuri on Ice is a fujo show with gay fanservice targeted towards fujos. Why are you trying so hard to pretend its not? Are you really that upset that something isnt made for you?
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>>148326333
Isn't Swiss-kun second best in the world? I want to see him skate.
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>>148327012
No one is trying to chase the fujos out, just the one's who shit up the threads with their serious business shipping drama. and the characters are straight, this isn't BL.
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>>148326972
Yes, I mean it's on his own right what to do with his characters and how their relationships work. But he made a bad marketing move with calling shit his fujo fanbase. If anything they would have stopped the shipping sooner or later, Durarara!! doesn't have the fanbase it had years ago. People move on to new works and we know the author wants to focus on his other stories than Durarara!! now but editors won't let him off that easily.
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>>148326976
Hate-pairings are popular as fuck.
Just look at the two faggots in K, it's really obvious that they're just fujo pandering and they still took off like crazy.
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>>148327051
There's been no fucking shipping drama, it's just been you, the lone heterosexual warrior defending blatant fujobait against fujos daring to think the MC isn't gonna end up with the childhood friend who NTR'd him in the first episode.
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>>148327114
Yata deserves so much better
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>>148327012
>something isn't made for you

I like the fanservice, I just would like to actually discuss the show in a serious manner for once and I think that would be easier if certain people would shut the fuck up.
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>>148327051
>and the characters are straight, this isn't BL.
>Every author is me and only writes straight character
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>>148327051
>and the characters are straight
The creators won't agree with you. They're going to milk the fujos for all they're worth, which means officially keeping the gay possibility open without confirming it.
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>>148327133
>no shipping drama

HAHAHHAAHAA
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>>148327160
>I just would like to actually discuss the show in a serious manner
Then come back when the episode airs. What the heck are you expecting from a mid-week thread?
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>>148327114
There are a lot of faggots in K, if you mean Misaki/Fushimi, the side material in particular stops them from just being a pandering hate ship. It's easy to just blame Fushimi for being a dick but he's uncomfortably relatable sometimes.
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I knew these threads were gonna be miserable.
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>>148327218
Just like every /a/ thread!
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>>148327195
Shipping drama would be fanwars between Yuuri/Victor and Slav Yuri/Victor fans. One dumbass insisting Yuuri is all over the vagina when we all know the ambiguous direction in which this is headed is not shipping drama.
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>>148327133
No one said he's going to end up the Yu-chan, you can stop saying this.
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>>148327260
Not the anon you quoted but there were people pushing for Yuri getting with Yu-chan. >>148308409
>>148310146
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>>148327142
Nah. Saruhiko is the best written character from K Project. Read the side materials.
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>>148327218
Its okay, the show wil get so gay by episode 3 and 4 that the person arguing in the thread will be gone by then
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Why do you think Victor went to Nipland? Because

1. he thought Yuri was technically better/had more potential than the Russian Fairy

2. he thought Yuri was a better match for his style even though he isn't necessarily better at skating

3. Yuri gave him a boner

4. midlife/retirement crisis prompts him to do crazy shit to reinvent himself

5. he wants to live vicariously through someone who obviously wants to follow his footsteps

6. other

Pick and choose as many as you like.
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>>148327349
3, 4 and 5
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>>148327216
Saruhiko is the only character I've seen in forever that actually seems like he could be realistically inlove with another guy and not just pandershit like most anime.

Though to be perfectly honest, I think he's just a normal hetero kid that gets embarrassed over Neko panties with a lot of issues that contributed to his fixation on Yata.
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>>148327276
I'm sorry you're dumb enough to take a bait post seriously.
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>>148327349
3 and 6
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>>148327349
3, 4, 5 and also 6 but I'm not sure just what the plot twist might be. So far death theory seems popular but I think he might also just be using him for PR, we'll have to see what he says to the press in the next episode.
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>>148327349
>1

Would be really shitty but possible

>6

I think he just wants to spread his genius and help other skaters to unlock their full potential before he retires. I think he knew Yurio would follow him and I think he wants to help them both.
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>>148327424
I simply corrected you, don't lash back at me because I proved you wrong.
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>>148327497
>prove you wrong

You didn't, you just showed you're a retard who gets triggered over stupid shit.
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>>148327114
>hate pairing
>Fushimi/Yata

Someone didn't read the side materials.
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>>148327478
>death theory
Seems too heavy for this show and takes away too much impact from the Grand Prix which is supposed to be the climax.
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>>148327575
Yeah I'm hoping they won't do something that cheap but fujos love angst so who knows
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>>148327520
You are a funny guy, you said that no one said he's going to end up the Yu-chan and I posted proof that they did, it doesn't matter if it's a bait post or not.
I don't give a fuck about shipping.
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>>148327409
Well I don't like to sound like a delusional shipperfag, I know K is bait and it's just super exaggerated friendship but his behaviour and feelings towards Misaki are extreme enough that it does seem romantic in nature.
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>>148327645
end up with*
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>>148327628
They do, but the writers should know better. Fujos will still enjoy this without out-of-place tragedy.
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>>148327216
>uncomfortably relatable sometimes

I was actually impressed with all the shit they wrote for his character and how it all actually makes sense. Usually, when anime make a damaged goods character they just throw a few angsty tropes together and hope people call it "deep".

I'm just sad most of this stuff won't get animated. Crossing my fingers for a LSW OVA, they already did a stage play but it's not the same.
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>>148327216
>>148327573
I only watched the first season, and the pairing was popular even back when they first appeared. There was no side material back then.
It's nice that they got a real story, but the fujos back then definitely got lured in by the whole hate thing.
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>>148327785
>It's nice that they got a real story, but the fujos back then definitely got lured in by the whole hate thing.
There was always more than just hate with them, Fushimi was basically a jealous cuck.
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>>148327658
I do think his fixation on Yata is extreme and unnatural. but I also think that his issues heavily contributed to it being so "extreme" and that shouldn't be ignored either. I also think that Fushimi is really just a normal kid in a lot of ways and that makes his character more relatable and tragic in my opinion. I think he loves Yata, but I also think Saruhiko is just the type of person to go to great lengths for someone he loves romantic or not.

I think the point of their relationship was bittersweet realism. It was about growing up for both of them and realizing that as teens they both fucked up their friendship but that's life. and that things won't go back to the way they were, but that doesn't mean they can't be friends again. It was about them accepting that they have different paths, but that shouldn't keep them from having a bond despite that. I really liked the subtle doses of realism that contributed to the downfall of their friendship.

Yata growing complacent towards Saruhiko and finding new friends, Saruhiko getting jealous but not internalizing instead of talking it out. Saruhiko also made a comment about how they don't even talk about anything exciting anymore and that really hit close to home.

I think Saruhiko was meant to belong somewhere else to find himself and develop healthier relationships, but the psychological issues played a big part as well. I think they blended it nicely and that epilogue chapter of LSW was very bittersweet but realistic and I don't see that a lot.
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>>148327765
I'd kill for LSW to be animated. There's supposed to be some Seven Stories anime coming up but I'm not sure what it'll be about.

>>148327785
No denying fujos like hate pairings but rather than straight up hate, their dynamic was always Saru desperately trying to get Yata's attention by pulling his pigtails and Yata being unable to resist taking the bait.
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