Can Aoko kill Servants?

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>>148273417
Aoko would have been a master though.

p.s. She's strong enough to kill servants, but really depends on the situation. Most knight classes will get her and even average mage servants would wreck her.

>>148273417
Aokos hair color kills my boner desu senpai.

>>148274320

Can True Magic surpass Saber's A-rank Magic Resistance?

Aok's sugois can surpass all resistance

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>>148274320
>and even average mage servants would wreck her.
My dick is a mage now?

If by servants you mean my dick, then yes.

>>148274764
True Magic isn't magecraft. Her resistance cannot black the effects of sorcery.

>>148273417
she could probably straight out fuck them up because loltruemagic but a fair bit of them wouldn't go down because she doesn't actually have enough firepower to take them down, for example shes gonna do fuck all against karna.
she would be able to rape assassin all day erry day though, holy hell assassin is hard countered by her, so is most riders.

>>148273417
As I recall the old power ranking by Nasu said she could fight defensively against an average (C-Rank) Servant.

>>148273417
Nope. Cant even hold a candle to F/SN's Caster according to Nasu.

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Servants just kill her before she can react. Powerlevels have no meaning if your opponent can swipe your head off without you noticing it.

Only people who arent fast enough are casters or riders. Casters will de facto win due to being much better at magic while riders NP will just rape her instantly

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>>148273417
She's a main character so yes.

>>148274764
Nah

>>148274652
Her boots revive my boner though desu

>>148273417

Translation when

>>148277041
>defensively
That's Ciel. Kouma and Aoko can fight Servants more or less evenly. Also it's not average Servant, it's Servant with average NP.

>>148277420
>Kouma and Aoko can fight Servants more or less evenly
Nope

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>>148277420
>Aoko fags
Youd have to bent the source material pretty badly to think that.

>>148277441
>Q. In the other Type-Moon works, who else besides Arc can fight against Servants?
>A. If we're working on the condition of one on one, with an average Noble Phantasm. Generally most of the 27 Ancestors, Kishima Kouma, Aozaki Aoko.
>If it's just a defensive fight, but would still be a fight, then Ciel. Shiki (Rakkyo), Shiki (Tsukihime) are no match for Servants....but Ryougi Shiki (3rd personality) might be able to go as far as the Ciel class.
Yup

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Can Shiki kill Aoko?

>>148277478
The "servants with an average NP" is very important though.

She may be able to 1 on 1 someone like True Assassin but any of the servants that we saw in F/SN at least would fuck her up.

>>148273417
What exactly is her ability though? Isn't her True Magic basically just time travelling?

>>148277478
>Defensive fight
That doesnt imply winning/even fight, just that she doesnt get rolled over

>>148277532
>Q. I have a question about the Servants vs. other character answer in the 9th issue of Comptiq. About a Servant with an average Noble Phantasm, who would have one and what rank would that have been?
>A: That's a serious question. The level of the Noble Phantasm would be B, and ability being represented by numbers would be called an average Noble Phantasm. Broken Phantasm, Barrier of the Wind King (C), Gae Bolg (thrown) (B), that sort.
Basically as long it's just pure destructive force up to B rank, without any hax, she could manage. But yeah most Servants we saw have hax NP

>>148277532

You're still somehow reading "an average NP" as "weak servant", when by Nasu's standards even Gae Bolg is average as NPs go.

>>148277663
Gae Bolg is hurt by Lancer's luck. The Thrown version jumps up a few tiers.

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>>148277514

>Q: In Nasu's work (Kara no Kyoukai, Tsukihime, Fate, DDD) Who's the top three strongest characters?
>A: Magical Amber, Neco Arc, and Tiger. Well, not really.
>Seriously, it's Arcueid, "Ryougi Shiki", and primordial demons.(Not counting Servants)

Easily

>>148277691

Yeah, but Lancer himself is anything but average as a Servant, even though his NP might be classified as one.

>>148277712
Void might have hax powers but in actual fight she's on Ciel level >>148277478

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>>148277755
She really isnt. Stronger implies that shes stronger in a fight.

Also that quote is two years older so its clearly retconned by the newer one which I posted. That would also imply that Aoko after all cant fight servants

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Will we ever get official Aoko sex scenes?

I always forget which is which. Is aoko shikis' teacher or the one from KnK?

In FGO Void has this in her description "That is something which arose from ｢　｣ and follows up to ｢　｣. Divided at the two polarities, circulating with the four symbols, assembling the eight trigrams; the one that lays the principle of the world. The two polarities refers to the yin yang denoted by the taijitu. Her name comes from the ｢shiki｣ of suushiki, the ｢shiki｣ of shikigami.

In other words, the mark of an almighty wish-machine. For those who possess this skill, regular parameters become meaningless."

Also not only that but her bio also state that she is all knowing and none of these things are dew to her servant form either it's all innate abilities, which is why Nasu's comment about how "not strong she is" is still pretty weird to me when he's the one who wrote that bio.

And on a side note this is from regular Shiki's bio. "An attack that opens the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception to the maximum and severs the target's ｢lines of death｣.
Regardless of possessing a life-span of some millions, recovery powers that resuscitate you from a interrupted state or a stock of lives of some hundreds, because it exposes ｢the concept of death in regards to that specimen｣, it gives a fatal wound while disregarding such qualities of immortality.". So the way Shiki kills Berserker in that one doujin is canon.

>>148277801

Who's the strongest of them all?

>Nasu back then:
>Well, objectively assessing everyone's base stats and unique abilities, personalities, the involved conditions and the positions of the stars, it could go either way, really.

>Nasu today:
>my waifu ofc

French translation of Mahoyo is kill by the way.

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Are people joking when they say that Aoko is ugly because of her brown hair? I would smash her like the fist of the north start given the chance.

>>148278108
Do we know what happened to them? They only had the final chapter left IIRC.

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>>148277755
>hax powers
But that's literally the source of what can be described as "strength" of the characters in nasuverse. Void Shiki can slice reality itself in the last movie so her "strength" surpasses a lot of what's out there.
>implying servants aren't augmented mana-beasts which little to do with real people strength

>>148278141
I have no idea, I just happen to check their site regularly and it's been dead for about a week now. If it were just an accident I would have guessed that someone on their side would have noticed and brought it up again.

It's also been 10 month since their last patch so maybe they gave up along the way. The only silver lining in all of this is that all the lore-heavy segments were translated.

>>148277828
aoko is shiki's teacher. touko is her sister and made shiki's glasses.

>>148278108

Mahoyo translations in any language never ever ever ever ever ever

>>148278252
Well that sucks. It seems we can't have nice things

>>148274764
Of course.

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Reminder that Aoko is an extremely average magus with magic circuits comparable to those Shirou has.

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>>148281587
Show me a magus with better puppies, m8.

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>>148281776

After Scat-hatch, Aoko's puppies just look extremely average.

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>>148281776

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>>148273417
Can Typemoon kill Tsukihime?

>>148282152
I'll never get people like you who see threads about things they like and then try to start a conversation about the things they dislike. It's like you're trying to make yourself bitter.

>>148281587
She's average magus but top tier magic user
>While the Aozaki family has circuits of the highest quality that may help make up for their low numbers, Aoko is especially talented in that area. Her natural talent in prana utilization is about a hundred times more efficient than the average magus, allowing her to perform wonders with very little energy.
>Aozaki Aoko is a novice. She was brought up isolated from magecraft until two years, and her talent and experience doesn't compare to Alice who was raised up as a witch from birth. In normal circumstances, she wouldn’t be even worth Alice’s notice. If it was a matter of skill in magecraft, ten out of ten times Alice would emerge the victor. But fighting, fighting with the intent of killing is something else.
>Kuonji Alice isn't a magus suited for combat, but Aozaki Aoko is a destroyer specialized in fighting. Alice even admits that in terms of pure magic energy, Aoko is higher. How Aoko uses her mystic energy is remarkably skilled. The size of her circuits is smaller than Alice's, but their rotational speed, their structural durability, the quality of their output, and the fuel efficiency are extraordinary.
That's Aozaki Aoko's specialty. Advanced spell expressions will be no better than average, but with respect to simple magecraft expressions for only causing magic energy to flow, she's surpassed Alice in just two years of practice. With her genius intuition and responsiveness, Her spell executions are not so much as powerful as they are frighteningly "quick". Had she not been born in the Aozaki family, there's no mistake she would have become a genius sharpshooter.

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>>148282049
>Aoko's puppies just look extremely average.

>>148277305
Then riddle me this:
How did Schweinorg beat the Crimson Moon?

>>148282295
I want Aoko to punch me in the gut.

Is there a translation for this yet? Or at least one in the works?

>>148282295
Waver is top tier magic user but his circuits are shit so hes shit too.

Aokas circuits are mediocre so shes mediocre too

>>148283191
Waver is not a top tier magic user. His renown comes from the fact that all his students become top tier magi.(Per SF)

>>148282677
Are you sure?
>Aozaki Aoko can be said to be a 'martial' magus, pumping prana through her arms, her spells reaching completion upon passing through her fists. Aoko's fists must seem like rocket engines to her enemies.

>>148283900
Definitely. Then I want her to pee on my nearly-unconscious body as a sign of dominance.

>>148283191
>Waver is top tier magic user
No he's not. He's a top tier magic teacher. If I remember correctly, it's like someone who is able to visualize the perfect running form, but can't actualize it in real life, so they just guide others to do it.

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Best Mahoyo.

Can Soujuurou punch servants?

>>148277478
Ciel is said to be able to beat Medea if she gears up with something that's in the burial agency.

>>148287403
Now that T think about it I'm confused as to why his punch had any effect. Aoko's kick had no effect on his child form and he isn't magically empowered as far as I remember.

I know there was some psychological aspect because Beo wasn't expecting the attack to be that effective but how did he manage to blow up his heart in the first place?

>>148288659
Soujuurou lives in the mountains so he was closer to nature or something.

>>148288659
Soujuurou was the strongest human in TMverse before he came down from that mountain.

At this point he still hasn't lost all of that power yet.

>>148288654
And Ciel is bottom-tier in the Burial Agency so the average ones and the top ones can probably fight Servants. It all comes down to compatibility though.

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>2016
>yfw some people still misunderstand "Void" hacks powers and clan Ryougi special ability

>>148277663

There's nothing average about Gae Bolg. Nasu himself says that causality manipulating NPs go beyond the normal tier of NPs and become so broken they can even kill Dead Apostle Ancestors.

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>>148288955
Her FGO profile literally says that she's a wishing-machine and that normal parameters mean nothing for her.

>>148282429
2nd magic =/= 5th magic.

Kaleidoscope can produce infinite mana by channeling it across dimensions. He used that to push back the moon drop from Crimson Moon. Aoko's magic is functionally different. It hasn't been fully explained what its true purpose is, but she uses it to displace time. That's how she is able to become the strongest version of herself from the future, but its noted that every time she uses her magic she's bringing the heat death of the universe closer and closer.

>>148289045
The point is exactly that.
Just because Zelretch has infinite mana he's not impermeable to getting his head torn off by someone so fast he can't see.

>>148289043
>Her FGO profile
>FGO
Into the trash it goes. Acording to Nasuverse lore if Void will try any of her hacks, Counter Force just kill her instantly by lighting bolt. He knows

>>148289079
Zelretch probably can warping

>>148288987
Yet Gae Bolg is still a rank B NP. Could that be because it has no other function besides the reversal and the thrown version (which are probably not Bs)?

Excalibur, for example has the Hammer of the Wind King as an extra function of sorts.

>>148289191
It really doesn't matter if the Crimson Moon is really, really, really fast.
And yes, he can teleport and time travel and whatnot

>>148277663
>Gae Bolg
>A spear that reverses causality so it always hits you in the heart
>Average
It's one of the most broken in a straight duel, shit's all over Avalon and GOB because it doesn't need a gay overly flowery incantation

>>148289079
I'm not arguing in favor of the Magicians on this one. Zelretch would probably get fucked by most above average servants.

>>148289191
Zelretch channeling all of that mana to beat Crimson Moon permanently fucked his powers. He's a shell of his former self. Even after he became a vampire after that battle, he was still far weaker than what he once was in his prime. There's a reason he's mostly limited himself to being an observer. He may still be a frighteningly powerful magus, but he's still not what he once was.

>>148289227
We will never know how he win a fight. Maybe it was just boring one blow
>Crimson Moon instantly bite him
>ALLAHU AKBAR
>Crimson Moon is dead

>>148289148
FGO has canon profiles. They're all approved by Nasu before they go into the game.

>>148289191
Zelretch can probably do a lot of crazy shit with his abilities.

When Saber was fighting Assassin, didn't she say his Tsubame Gaeshi was almost on the same level as something Zelretch would be able to do by messing with space, only out of pure skill?

>>148289148
>Tohno Shiki kills the world
>no Counter Guardian gave a fuck

Explain.

>>148288987

>>148289267
Yet Nasu said it's an average NP.

Why are you going against what he himself said?

>>148289349
>Why are you going against what he himself said?
Because he's autistic

>>148289325
Not only that but the KnK event and the Shiki profiles were written by Nasu. The event makes it pretty clear that void isn't invincible but she is monstrously powerful.

>>148289336
Arcueid would kill the counter force

>>148289225
The spear itself isn't the NP. The causality reversal and thrown attack are the NPs, and they are still B rank. It's just that rank won't always be equal to effectiveness. Gae Bolg is frighteningly efficient at what it does, and that's why it's powerful.

>>148289386
You'd have to be to write something with so many rules as Stay Night and then proceed to break them all anyway. He's autistic, but correct.

>>148289403
Can Void kill Archetype earth?

>>148289398
I'd say she's powerful, but not as a servant. Her personality is a hard brake like Gilgamesh's. No matter how much power she may have, it will never go into full use. Much like how Gil won't ever be serious unless it's against a select few, such as Enkidu.

>>148289479
Probably not. For all of the power she has as a wishing machine, she still can't impose the concept of death on a Type. There are very few things that can.

>>148289479
Can't even fight servants

>>148289043

Yes, as a Servant with Servant parameters, she is at such a level that she can kill almost anything and Servant parameters mean nothing to her anymore.

As a normal human being, she is still limited by her completely ordinary body and cannot fight Servants except defensively. Void is only unbeatable when she's summoned as a Servant.

It's like comparing Ryougi Shiki to Nanaya Shiki. Nanaya is so much stronger than Ryougi that he could just stab her in her arteries the old fashioned way, he has absolutely no need to rely on Mystic Eyes of Death Perception to beat her. But Void Shiki would completely destroy Nanaya Shiki because she is beyond all humans even though she is one herself.

But Servants are on an entirely different level beyond humans, so even Void Shiki cannot beat Servants, unless she is one herself, in which case the she is forcefully elevated to their caliber - even a Servant who is to Servants as Nanaya is to humans could not defeat her, which would include guys like Gilgamesh, Ozymandias, Scathach, Heracles, and Karna.

As a side note, looking at her Servant parameters, we can guesstimate what parameters Tohno Shiki would have since he's completely above Ryougi in every way due to being an ancient human.

STR: B
END: C
AGI: A++
MGI: A
LCK: A

>>148289325
Tsukihime characters will appear in FGO as servants too. Just wait until remake. I bet you will defend this too.
>Tsuki remake released
>it's popular
>wambo jambo six magic doo
>Now all Tsukihime characters are servants because of distortion in Throne of Heroes. They actually not servants but it's just proection of different probabilities in collapsed time paradox in the dream of Primate Murder after he was transported into Fifth Grail War dream world

>>148289576
>Implying Nasu would give Shiki good parameters

He's not a waifu anon.

>>148289554
I actually meant if her eyes could see lines of death or at least a point since she has all the world's knowledge and was thinking maybe she can understand what "death" means for a type and somehow manage to see a line or point of death.

>>148289597
I don't have to because it will be canon.

>>148289336
>Tohno Shiki kills the world
Lmao. It's Reality Marble tier shittery. Nothing scary. But Ryougi is different. And she was pawn of Counter Force himself in KnK spiral paradox.

>>148289597
I wouldn't mind Shiki being a servant, killing Dead Apostles is way more than any other TM protagonist because DAs are like the opposite of humanity and killing them is a heroic action.

Has a lot more basis than a lot of servants from F/GO.

>>148289349
>>148289225

Q. I have a question about the Servants vs. other character answer in the 9th issue of Comptiq. About a Servant with an average Noble Phantasm, who would have one and what rank would that have been?

A: That's a serious question. The level of the Noble Phantasm would be B, and ability being represented by numbers would be called an average Noble Phantasm. Broken Phantasm, Barrier of the Wind King (C), Gae Bolg (thrown) (B), that sort.
On the other hand, those with conceptual effects, destiny interference types fall into a special category. With Gae Bolg (regular), no matter how much Arcueid might be superior to Lancer in numbers, she will be killed depending on her luck, you see.

>>148289661
That's just it. Death means nothing to a Type because they have no concept of death within them. No matter how much you know, you cannot know that which cannot exist. To be able to force death on a Type, you need to destroy where they come from.

>>148289635
He can just genderswap him and throw some blone hair on, the sick fuck

>>148289741
So, Arcueid?

>>148289735

Stop with these memes. You can destroy a TYPE permanently if you just destroy it. Ado Edem completely destroyed a TYPE and it stayed dead.

>>148289793
Or Saber, doesn't really matter as long as he can jerk off to it

>>148289576
VOID Shiki is only that powerful if you can make her care, which you can't. She's completely uncaring about what happens to her. Even if she's shoved into a servant container, she's still just that.

>>148289697

You can only become a Heroic Spirit if you become legendary. Shiki does not act in broad daylight nor does anyone know who he is or what he does. At best, his acts of heroism would land him as being part of Mumei, the Servant who represents all unknown heroes throughout history and legend.

>>148289479
Void Shiki seems to have limitations. She said those ghosts were from the side of Alaya so she could kill them but it would be a different matter if they were beast of Gaia.

>>148289697
I like DA concept

The remaining officer put himself under the protection of his noble phantasm spear and charged with all his might. But Jester used just a finger to stop the spear that had been coming for him with the speed of the claws of a carnivore.

"In other words," began Jester, looking at the shattered spear and the despairing officer with a smile full of pity.

"Heroic Spirits validate human history. They protect the rules of the human world.”

Fiddling with a piece of the shattered lance with his fingers, Jester gave a slight shake to his head.

"We Dead Apostles deny human history. We have existed to defile your rules."

"Deny…human history?"

"Yes indeed. Therefore, we can deny the power of noble phantasms made by man or noble phantasms god prepared for man. It might be a different story with noble phantasms god made for god's own sake, but how easily are you going to find those? It's all pure compatibility. I am a snake, and you are frogs. That's all.”

Jester began moving his legs at last, so as to add the finishing touches, now that the air in the lobby was imbued with a negative color.

"It’s a different case of course, if it were a messenger from the Throne, a heroic spirit that had been using the same noble phantasm. It might have beaten me. But however much you humans use noble phantasms, your defeat is inevitable. It's not something that can be overcome with strategy and guts.”

>>148289923
But there's the assassin class and the whole thing about Melty Blood.

>>148289289
>Zelretch would probably get fucked by most above average servants.
Then how in the world could he take the Crimson Moon, something far above any servant?

>>148290026
Dante is my favorite DAA

>>148290026
>It's not something that can be overcome with strategy and guts.
Looks like someone is underestimating the power of GUTS

>>148290102

All Assassins are either legendary (Jack the Ripper, Shuten, Shuwen) or being specially summoned as wraiths by the catalyst word Assassin which summons instead the obscure legendary figures of the Hassan tribe (every Hassan) who have not yet qualified to enter the Throne of Heroes (though some have posthumously as a result of grail wars).

Tohno Shiki has no special connection to the word Assassin nor any legend for him to be pulled from.

>>148290151
>we will never see Dante and Shiki killing DAA and shit
I actually prefer Tsuki 2 without Shike. Maybe as background character. Dante needs new characters as teammates

>>148290166

Narita fucking loves the power of GUTS, Jester's gonna be fucking humiliated before this story's over

>>148290109
Compatibility. He saw Crimson Moon dropping the moon on him so he charged up as much mana as possible and let it loose. The 2nd magic flowed through his body unleashing an unending torrent of mana that forced back the moon, but nearly destroyed Zelretch. He had time to react.

It's similar to Rin vs. Sakura in Heavens Feel. Using the Jewel Sword of Zelretch, she put out blasts of mana as powerful as her body could handle, at one point fucking up her arm. Her opponent wasn't any faster than her and she was able to hold her back with just blasts of mana.

Zelretch did the same. If he was fighting against someone who was much faster than he was as a human and who had reaction speed beyond human level, he'd be sunk. He put everything he had into the gamble that his 2nd magic would force back the moon and defeat Crimson Moon in one blow.

>>148290295
Narita seems to have a hard on for DAs though.

>>148290102
>>148290244
Isn't Tohno shiki more of a berserker than an assassin?

>>148290349
You gotta set up a threat before you knock it down. He likes Gilgamesh too, but Gilgamesh is getting pissed on by True Archer.

>>148290369
He's not gay

>>148290349

He seems to have a hard-on for everyone. Not just Type Moon characters, either. I mean, nobody ever dies in his stories. This might be a rare time that a majority of the cast eats it. Or he'll completely break the rules and find some way for everyone to survive. Now that'd be something.

>>148290419
I'd like to see Narita kill someone for a change. He has a problem with killing people off, but Fate almost requires that there be a bloodbath.

Why Crimson Moon bitten Zelretch? He just give him more powers. What a retard. DAA Zelretch will kick his ass again

>>148290026

Interesting, so Noble Phantasms wielded by humans are weak as hell against DAs because DAs are intrinsically anti-humanity and only Divine Constructs wielded by humans qualify as legitimate threats.

So weaker conceptual weapons that aren't specifically associated with humanity like Black Keys are stronger against DAs.

>>148278108
Italian one's done at least. What are you Amerifags even doing? I even contemplated taking a Japanese course in my Uni to speed stuff up and I am in fucking Asia.

>>148290534
Zelretch as a DAA is far weaker than he was as a human. Using the 2nd magic at full power like he did ruined his body and weakened him permanently.

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>>148290542
Inquisitors literally have no fear. Looks like DA is joke for them

>>148290762
Hanzo is also a badass kung fu priest with a harem of kung fu nuns. He has no reason to be afraid.

>>148288733
>>148288799
But what made him that strong? It can't literally just be because he shit in the woods and ate berries and shit

ALCIDES'S MASTER IS WHITE WING ORTENROSSE

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST FOLKS

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>>148290026
> It's all pure compatibility. I am a snake, and you are frogs. That's all.”

AHAHAHAHHAHAAH

DON'T GET CARRIED AWAY, MONSTER

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>we will never know this spooky Counter Guardian identity

>>148290946
Don't speak blasphemies against Buzz Cola.

>>148290909
He's an ascetic, they're all super warrior priest mother fuckers

>>148291025
>Human I'll kill you
>I will make you realize that within me there is a life force far beyond your understanding

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>>148291091

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>>148291127

Shiki was so edgy holy shit

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>>148290762
HUMANITY FUCK YEAH

>>148291163

>>148291194
>Knife wielding Japanese teenager super ninja is edgy
Holy fuck, I never realized!

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>>148291194
How? Nero was eating him alive, i'd be fucking pissed too.

He wants nothing to do with monsters otherwise

>>148291202
And it only took one of a kind Mystic Eyes to do it.

>>148291272
Need I bring up the rape and CHAIR?

>>148291047

Think about it

Alcides' master can touch and handle grail mud without so much as flinching, as if he's completely immune to nearly infinite human curses like a Dead Apostle would be. Also, his eyes are pitch black, that probably means he's a Dead Apostle.

Alcides' master is an Age of Gods-tier magus, so in all likelihood he's actually a genuine Age of Gods magus. And he uses all three command spells on Heracles without hesitation, which is literally suicide because the whole point of keeping at least one is so that you can command them to kill themselves to complete the Grail Ritual. The only reason he'd do that is if he is legitimately strong enough to kill him personally. That already rules out 99% of Dead Apostles, not even most of the DAA are actually from the Age of Gods.

And Ostenrosse is someone who does not already have an illustration.

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>>148291194
>>148291257
>Shiki is edgy

I fucking hate this meme because back in the day nobody would say that, because people had actually READ Tsukihime, not be a secondary and talk about it.

Shiki is never edgy, the only times he acts edgy are when he's literally out of his mind, but that's not his fault.

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I don't know the names of these people.

Who the fuck are they?

>>148291343
>Need I bring up the rape and CHAIR?
You mean the things that only happen because of Roa or SHIKI fucking with his mind?

By al means, bring them up.

>>148291374
>his eyes are pitch black
>Alcides' master is an Age of Gods-tier magus
Could you source these? Particularly the second one. Why would the other True Masters choose to work with him?

>>148291438
>waaah secondary
Normal people read Tsuki ten years ago. I don't even remember anything except meme scenes

>>148291438
His Nanaya blood is part of him and his identity.

Saying
>i-it's not his fault it's his second personality's fault!
is silly. Especially since it's that side of him that started the whole story.

Don't respond to edgeposters, there's no point.

>>148291374
>F/SF is fun
>untranslated
>DDD is fun
>at least it's translated on russian

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>>148291454
Lorelei, The Queen of the magic association. Also tsundere for Shiki

Mr. Dawn, number 6 burial agency


Merem Solomon(his limbs are divine beasts) and Gransurg Blackmore, both DAAs that worship Arcueid because CM is their master

>>148290674
>Italian one's done at least
Really? I'll give it a shot then, it's been ages since I read anything italian but that's better than nothing.

>>148291528

You can see the color of his sclera in that chibi masters/servants chart Narita made in the last volume of Strange/Fake, it's been posted around here several times.

As for him being Age of Gods-tier, in the scene where Buzzcola is corrupting Heracles with command spells, Heracles states that it would be impossible to force him to kill himself even if a master used all three command spells at once for it, but the instant Buzzcola uses the first one to force him to relive the memory of killing his family, Heracles immediately recognizes the magical power behind the command spell as being on the level of an Age of Gods magus, way beyond what any modern magus should be capable of.

>>148291701
That's what I learned back in Feb/March.

>>148291454
>bartholomei lorelei (middle):
vice director of mage's association, considered one if not the strongest magus in this era, hates (might be love) tohno shiki.

>merem solomon (right)
Dead apostle ancestor, ironically a member of burial agency, idolized crimson moon

>mr dawn (left)
badass priest, member of burial agency, don't judge him by his look he's a nice guy

>gransurg blackmore (back)
dead apostle ancestor, just like merem solomon he sees crimson moon highly, hates altrouge

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>>148291768
There's an illustration for him.

But you're getting it wrong, his command spells were amped up and that edgy bitch gave him the mud. He's not powerful by himself, the spells were stronger than they should and they also attacked Heracles weak point, if the command was to kill himself he could've told him to fuck off, but the command was to remember his tragedies

>>148291691
>>148291978
Thanks, based anons.

Where do they show up?

>>148292011

She gave him the mud because he was the only one who could handle it with no ill effects.

And the strength of a command spell is directly proportional to the magical strength of its user, see: Archer talking about how strong Rin's command spell was. Heracles wasn't just comparing how effective making him remember his family is to something like killing himself, he was comparing the raw power behind the spell itself. As for it being especially effective emotionally on him, that's simply due to Buzzcola needing to be both an Age of Gods tier magus and hitting him below the belt to affect Heracles.

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>>148292191
>Where do they show up?
oh anon

>>148292255
who is that girl?

>>148291025
Based Nero
>Dead Apostle. Assassin felt her whole body shudder at those words. Not with fear of the monstrosities called "vampires"; because she had come to the worst possible conclusion about the situation she had been placed in. Aimless bearers of death. Messengers of destruction that drive out humans. She had never met a Dead Apostle face to face while she was alive, but she had heard tell of them. Every time a great war with the infidels broke out, terrible monsters appeared on the battlefield to rain destruction indiscriminate of creed. At the time of the first great war, it was said, a monster that kept countless beasts in its body had stained the desert with blood.

>>148292192
>>148292011
>>148291768
Narita picked up best parts of Nasuverse. Based

>>148292192
Buzzcola is literally powered by atomic buzzcola anon.

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>>148292321
yamete kudasai

>>148292330
See, Shiki>Servants

Servants are scared of Nero

>>148292393
why are you posting a blank image?

>>148291859
Do you happen to have a link or something? I could find a group that translated the trial, but they seem to be still working on the full version.

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>>148292414
you're gonna regret it when she becomes the best girl in the remake

>>148292396

>Not with fear of the monstrosities called "vampires"; because she had come to the worst possible conclusion about the situation she had been placed in.

>>148292191
In Talk and Prelude.

Possibly in the remake? Nasu said he was adding stuff(probably Altrouge and her demonic doggy)

>>148292482
Oh, so she's a new girl for the remake, a new route?
I'd expect nothing less from a remake.

>>148292191
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/archive/index.php/t-77.html
https://pl.scribd.com/document/28223797/Plus-Period-Talk

>>148292482
>>148292502
REMAKE. FUCKING. NEVER.

how many times did you reread tsukihimay?

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>>148292550
I just want a new Melty Blood.

Really man fuck Nasu, he LITERALLY STOPPED THE DEVELOPMENT OF MB HD.

What a fucking cunt, he stopped it and told FB to wait for the remake, what the fuck is his problem.

At least I can look at Sion in UNiB and see that FB is better than ever

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>>148292709
I've re-read it 4 times since it was first translated. Every time I find stuff that I didn't notice before

I watched 1 of those let's play too.

>>148292192
I feel like you're setting yourself up for disappointment. I want what you say to be true but I wouldn't put my expectations so high if I were you.

>>148292550
>tons of new art in every Type-moon ACE
>hurrr
You can't read it anyway. What the point of overreacting like this?

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>>148292736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuwoH2iZuKU

ELDER GOD DEMONBANE TIER

>>148292811
>I watched 1 of those let's play too
is it snow?

>>148292736
>Really man fuck Nasu, he LITERALLY STOPPED THE DEVELOPMENT OF MB HD.
What. Post roofs

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>>148292846
>New art

Nothing asides from Shiki(that shitty Nanatsu Yoru), Arihiko and "noel" was new. Fuck you.

I'm still mad about the knife, it was meant to be like a slab of iron, this is too crafty. I don't see Kiri impaling the shit out of Kouma with this

>>148292951
>concept art of mansion
>not new

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>>148292736
>tfw no MB HD
>tfw no new characters
>tfw no Void Shiki with 3 moon styles + eclipse

Such is life.

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how do we make japan like tsukihime franchise instead of fate?

>>148292951
>butterfly knife
neat

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>>148292889
>What. Post roofs

This is Sion, she was the first sprite they had finished for the project but then Nasu told them to stop it. First it was because he was working on Mahoyo so they had no story and then because the remake was in the works so Nasu said that everything needed to halt until the remake is done. So they added her as a guest in Under Night in Birth

You can find it by looking at French Bread stuff or just google some info

By the way, UNiB is a really good fighting game

>>148293252
Maybe just maybe... if Nasu actually releases the series?

The doujin game has been out of the market for a decade now. There's positive feedback everytime he talks about it, it's just that he won't release the fucking game.

>>148293252
>again
Okay. Listen. Tsuki released in 2001. Art is sucks, OST is sucks, no voices, writing is sucks compared to CCC and DDD. Not popular? Arc in 5th place, Akiha 16th. You just retarded EOP

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>>148293037
>concept art of mansion
Ok I forgot that. Still it's fucking nothing

There's not even a new PV anon. I cry myself to sleep watching this one all the time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR4ff-PtT6Y

>>148293381
Post proofs about
>Really man fuck Nasu, he LITERALLY STOPPED THE DEVELOPMENT OF MB HD.
I don't need your blah blah blah.

>>148273417
Not with that ugly brown hair she cannot

>>148293459
>Yumiduka

>>148293475
You can literally just google search it.

>>148292736
There's some hope
>Kamone: UNDER NIGHT IN-BIRTH Exe:Late[st] and Dengeki FIGHTING CLIMAX IGNITION are both out right now, so we'd really like you to play. Also, it was announced that talks concerning Tsuki Hime Remake is progressing, so please look forward to Melty Blood

>>148293605
Stop backpedalling.

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>>148293708
Dunno man, isn't it about Arc walking or something?

>>148293646
Wasn't a year ago?

>>148293431
nice reading cohemprension

>>148293754
>Also, it was announced that talks concerning Tsuki Hime Remake is progressing, so please look forward to Melty Blood

Did you miss the point that they can't release anything until Nasu puts the remake out?

>>148293767
>how do we make japan like tsukihime franchise instead of fate?
???

>>148293754
Almost yeah, that's why I wait for new TM Ace to see if something truly moved.

>>148293840
>franchise
that's including melty blood as a fighting game

>>148293708
Olga Marie is watching Arc, but Arc notices her, but she ~VANISHES~
because japan works like that.

>>148293663
Are you retarded

>>148293917
Well the fgg prefers Melty Blood.

But the fgg is a completely different community than crazed Saber Otaku.

>>148293917
???
Japan doesn't like MB and Tsuki?

>>148293985
not as much as fate and it's mobage

>>148293840

He thinks Tsukihime is better that Fate.

Actually Tsukihime being were it is its not a bad thing considering how Fate been whored out to Disney levels, at least its spared that fate otherwise we would have 18+ versions of Arc and the same level of stupidity that Fate now suffers.

Unless you like having milked out like a shitty brain dead millennial that eats any garbage as long its band..

>>148294032
EOP pls stop. Read again >>148293431
And
>https://www.youtube.com/user/GAMEacho/videos

>>148289810
That's wrong though. Destroying them is neither permanent nor does it kill them. Perfect beings are deathless. Even the destroyed ones can get up later. But it's hard to move while destroyed, so they need to sit still for a long time.

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>>148294110
Fatefags on /a/ nowadays are secondaries, they came with F/Z and the UBW anime. They don't know anything about type moon other than Fate and the new mobage.

He probably doesn't know what a-cho is, but he'll talk anyways

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>>148294110
are you pretending to be retarded?
>https://www.youtube.com/user/GAMEacho/videos
>proving my point

>>148294228
>Constant tournaments for a game straight out of 1990
>proving my point

Why do normalfags pretend to know the fgc at all? see >>148293978

>>148294228
>Tsuki is 15 years old VN
>still popular in Japan
>hurr why tsuki not popular in Japan???

>>148294288
it's hard talking to a moron who doesn't even understand a basic conversation.
try reading a school book again idiot.

>>148294580
~cont
or should i say "阿呆"

>>148277305
What episode was this?

>>148294580
>EOP is buttmad for no reason
What the point? You want cry about Tsuki but you can't? If you wanna be real fedora kid so hard, cry about DDD then. This is REALLY unpopular and only 3,5 peopel read DDD in /a/ or even /jp/

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>Shiki>SHIKI>SHIKI>Fake Shiki>Shiki>French Shiki

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Can Shiki kill Korosensei?

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>>148295558
Easily.

>>148295558
If he lets Shiki, sure. It's a mortal being that dies when killed, therefore HP and defense values are irrelevant.

>>148295558
shiki is too slow

>>148273417
Not if they're shotas.

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>>148281587
>likes: faithful dogs
>dislikes: faithful dogs

what?

>>148298484
Probably one of those japanese puns and double-meanings in place.

Alternatively she's being her. An idiot.

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>>148298614
>Alternatively she's being her. An idiot.

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What happens next?

>>148290542

So in other words, Shirou stands zero chance against Dead Apostles since nothing in UBW would be able to hurt them? Hilarious.

>>148299194
Shirou can materialize any sword though including Black Keys not just NPs.

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How can Aoko even compete?

Bitch didn't even get a FUCKING FIG after MAHOYO RELEASE as a MAIN CHARACTER.

Instead her superior sister got one.

Shirou can analyze and project anything he desires, but can he see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?

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>>148300137
>Bitch didn't even get a FUCKING FIG after MAHOYO RELEASE as a MAIN CHARACTER.
What are you even saying?

>>148300240
>that utter garbage "beach tier" fig

EWWWWWWWW

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>>148299650
Normal swords don't have auto-mode so best he can do is use Black Keys as arrows and provide support for someone.

>>148274764
Saber's A-rank magic resistance isn't absolute. Archer would have died if he got hit with caster's magic.

True magic is even more so. Problem is aoko's magic takes time. knights are fast and powerful.

The reason why rin/aoko can't beat caster is because she casts magic many times faster. But saber is so fast that caster would have 0 chance against saber in normal conditions.

>>148273417
Anyone can kill a Servant. You just need to be smart enough to do it and have a shit load of back up plans, plus a suicidal trick card.

Even an /a/non could wipe the floor with Gilgamesh, Solomon, and Scathatch + few others.

>>148300788
You need something "mystical" though. You can't kill one with a nuke or a tank.

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>>148277963
>Will we ever get official Aoko sex scenes?
Never she's the only TM franchise lead heroine to not have done an H scene.

Only TM heroine to not have done and H scene unless you count bezette, but she sort of shared it with karen (and even then there are jokes in the fanbase that Karen is the heroine of F/HA because she had the H scene)

Aoko the purest.

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>>148300767
But how do you even hit Aoko?
>Their size and the energy imbued in them were on a different magnitude on the ones from before. These were the works of the giants of Scandinavia, restored at the Association by Aozaki Touko, replicas of the lost “original runes”. The three layers of liquid crystal film magnify the inscribed runes ten million-fold.
>These weren’t going to be cancelled by missiles. Even if Aoko’s output far exceeded Touko’s own, the colossal rock was several times greater. With a magecraft attribute that only “discharges mystic energy”, Aoko has no chance of blocking or avoiding this curse!
>“Main, set”
>She chants a brief self-hypnosis suggestion, and takes a deep, important breath. Aoko, not bothering to block or avoid, charges headfirst into the tempest of runes.
>“You, you don’t exist in this time axis do you!?”
>Touko confirms her suspicions while running her magecraft crests on full throttle. Her runes won’t act on Aoko because even now she is repeating instances of time travel by the seconds. Either she is sending the impacting runes to a different time, or she is wearing thousands of “herself” over herself. Whatever she is doing, there is no way this nonsense, this energy output can continue on!

>>148301192
So Aoko can do what Avalon did against Gil with time instead of space.

>>148290909
My theory is that he is dead

>>148293708
For what purpose do you avoid destruction?

Obviously, everything is for humanity's good

Even to the point of denying the past, the present and their results?
There is no development in that, it's wrong.
Destruction will come no matter what.
That's the law of the universe (not exactly law, it's a word used in God's providence but I do not know how to translate it)

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>>148300137
>>148300488

>>148301310
If I remember correctly she can send time and what happens in that time wherever she wants in the time axes.
Touko worries about the consequences of the energy she uses and how she would resolve that to keep balance in the universe and Aohko tells them that when the times comes she will move the consequences back in the beginning of time.
I might be wrong, I read it 6 months ago do not remember much of what they were saying

>>148301832
Thank you very much. And I know what you mean for the last sentence in my head I worded it as "that's the way of things" but I thought that deviated too much from the original meaning.

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>>148298614
>Probably one of those japanese puns and double-meanings in place.

Nah, it's just referring to how she's tsun to Soujuurou, but also how she kind of sort of wants to hold his hand.

>>148302274
Btw, what manga is that?
Is it the Tsukihime Manga?
I only read the VN

>>148302886
It's in the manga right there. You blind

>>148302886
It's an ongoing Melty Blood manga with some crossover with FGO. There's only one chapter left and it's over. I bought volume one which goes up to chapter 4. I also have uglier raws up to chapter 9. Anyway volume 2 should be the other half as the final chapter will be chapter 10.

>>148300871
Get a knife made out of carbon steel. Pour holy water over it, go to the church and have the pastor bless it in the name of God.

You officially have one of the world's hardest mystical knives in your hand. Go shank a Servant like a bitch.

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>>148302886
Melty Blood Alley Nightmare

The world is ending for some reason, Sion awakens Archetype Earth and she makes a chump out of the FGO villain.

It is revealed that the world is not ending because of FGO villain because that's basically the low tier stage and actual serious stuff is gonna happen.

Atlas>>>>Chaldea

>>148277663
C is average. Inst Gae Bolg B rank?

>>148303079
>>148303373

Is fatego close to ending?
I want to play it, but I am waiting until it ends.

>>148303560
Official plan were 7 Orders, we're at the 6th now.

Odds are it'll continue for a long time since it's:
>milking money
>story is nowhere close to finishing.

>>148303560
The last part is supposed to come out at the end of the year.

>>148303560
No it's not close to ending, it was originally meant to last like a year so the original plan was for it to end around this time BUT it made money for Aniplex so now they're going to add fillers basically and make it last longer.

The story is garbage anyways so don't bother, mobages are not meant to have story this one has a half assed one but if you're waiting for something like F/SN then don't, it's not even Apocrypha tier. Mainly because the characters are poorly written.

Then again it's not Nasu's fault, it's just that mobages are like pachinko, you just need to make people roll for husbandos and waifus by putting less clothes on them and that's it.

>>148303630
>>148303718

Thanks, I'll probably wait april then, since I'll go in japan I would be able to make a legit account

>>148303813
FGO doesn't have legit accounts or anything.

If you're on iOS, make a Japanese iTunes account and download it.
If you're on Android, use qooapp. No verification bullshit needed.

>>148301988
So what you are saying is that Aoko was responsible for the Big Bang?

Makes sense since a lot of energy is required to cause the Big Bang.

>>148303813
>legit account
No such thing, you just have to obtain the apk from qooapp or from somewhere else like apkpure if you're on android.
Also by waiting you're missing all the events ant time-limited Servants.

>>148303788
I heard many people saying that there were things like gran servants and a bigger universe.
Could you spoil it?

>>148303936
>>148304020
>FGO doesn't have legit accounts or anything

Weren't they banning people?

>>148303966
I don't remeber exactly what they said.
I was at the end of a 3-4 hours read session but I think that they implied something like that because (big spoiler)Soujirou kind of died and then she use true magic to save him and postponed all of this at the end of time or in the future anyway.
The Touko asked what would she do at the moment she had to face the consequences and she said she woul make all of that go at the beginning of time

>>148303788
The story is not as bad as you make it seem. Earlier on I would have agreed particularly with Roma's chapter but Camelot could have been a written as a short story and it would have made no difference. It and London are chapters that I felt had the same feeling as anything else he wrote in the Nasuverse. Particularly the encounter with Solomon after London and almost all of Camelot from the Old Man in the Mountain to having Holmes guide us through Atlas or the interactions with the Knights or the Goddess Rhongomyniad. Camelot is the kind of plot I expect from Nasu even if it's just one shots in singularities that only exists for a time and place.

>>148304120
>Weren't they banning people?
Not really, they banned cheaters that abused a glitch at one point, but I think that's all. They just made the app unusable on rooted phones and emulators to avoid cheating. They aren't banning anyone for not being japanese.

>>148304120
Only chink rerollers or people who abused a duplication glitch some months after launch.

>spoilers
So basically, Solomon is a 'Grand Servant'. They are 'true' Heroic Spirits and way above anything you've ever seen. Solomon for example can, if I remember correctly, disable all sorts of magecraft and the reason he's still alive is because he resurrected himself. His Noble Phantasm is like 200 Excaliburss combined and fired at once. It's insane.

There's also King Hassan, who's rumored to be the Grand Assassin. He decapitated Ozzy, a top tier Servant who fought against 3 Servants in Prototype with a single strike. Granted, Ozzy survived due to hax and because King Hassan was too lazy to finish the job but they're insanely powerful and the Earth's 'last resort'.

Final chapter of the story is rumored to be Solomon's temple. There's so much left to do. Find the other Grands, fight the things the Grands were supposed to fight etc. The story really picked up after Okeanos.

>>148304273
What glitch was it?

>>148304369
Looks cool
I also read the first LN of prototype, should I continue?
I kind of dropped it now but I might pick it up again later

>>148304374
Not aware of the specifics but it allowed you to duplicate what you had in you gift box. Some people used it to get thousands of various items, including servants and quartz (the main currency) iirc.

>>148304120
I think Aoko just said something like "I'll think of something later".

>>148304825
You sure?
I was almost sure I read that line.
I might be wrong though.
Thanks for correcting me.

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>>148304967
I'm just rereading that part, you're sort of right actually.
Aoko first says she'll send that time in the past, but Touko says that will not solve the problem.
Aoko ends the discussion by saying she'll assume the whole responsibility, but she'll think about it later.

>>148305410
There is a french translation?

Does anyone else think that Soujiuro is a zombie or something like that?

>>148305970
See some earlier posts in the thread. There is, but it's not complete, it's missing the final chapter and some extra material I think.
It hasn't been updated in like one year and the group's website is down since last week.

>>148306022
Don't you think the other two would have been able to tell? There's something going on with his neck but I don't think we can deduce that he's dead from that.

>>148306227
Alice knows the secret
Beo said something about his eyes being those of a not living being
Didn't grandpa Aohzaki said that he had no interest in him because of something symilar?

>>148292330
Damn, Servants be scared of Dead Apostles.

>>148303373
>, Sion awakens Archetype Earth and she makes a chump out of the FGO villain.
Which FGO villain? Got the pages proving it?

>>148304369
Which other Servants are Grand?

>>148307240
None yet.
Only Solomon's been confirmed.

>another Fate/Shit Night thread arguing about power levels

>>148306202
Better than the English version.

>>148274782
Every part of you is a wizard, anon.

>>148277305
I don't remember this gif

>>148281587
>Reminder that Aoko is an extremely average magus with magic circuits comparable to those Shirou has.

You're missing the point of the author then.

All Nasu/TM MC's have the same sort of qualities:
-highschool/college age (target audience)

>-relatively average or a bit sub-par

>-has exceptional special power that makes them broken strong

-mentally damaged (shikis have multiple personalities and serial killer tendencies, shirou is mentally broken and wants to be a superhero, aoko is relatively well adjusted but is good for nothing but destroying things)

>>148309772
Actually, that's wrong. Aoko has a small number of magic circuits but they are highly refined monster circuits.
That is very much unlike the other protagonists of TM. Even Shiki has above average magus potential that can survive Len contracting with him.

>>148273417
Why type moon girl are so sexy between Rin and Aoko this is too much

>>148313266
>Rin
Absolute shit tast
>Aoko
Getting warmer, but still only an 8.3 when compared to others.

>>148313991
>Rin
>shit
Go ahead and delude yourself.

Aoko can kill my dick if you know what I mean.

>>148293252
Tsukihime is less popular than Fate because they stopped doing anything with it. Meanwhile, TWO Fate's spinoffs got its own trilogy.

Aoko is love.
Aoko is life.