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Shingeki no Negima: UQ

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>62 pages
Oh baby
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>>148271386
62 pages of retcons.
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>Magister Negi Magi 2
I'd be excited if the damage wasn't already dome
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>>148271501
>retcons
What did I miss?
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What the fuck is happening. Fucking Akamatsu
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>>148271386
>>148271900
It's out? Is it up on the Mega?
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Looks like crunchy just released chapter 129

>premium membership need to view chapter
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>>148272107
It's going to end up in the club anyway
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>>148272082
Looks like it isn't. Anyone who has it wants to put it up?
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Sweet chapter
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It's up on kissmanga.
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The cutest

>>148272082
>>148272195
On Kami
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>>148272322
>>148272420
Don't see it on either. What the hell?
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CUTEST
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>>148272322
>>148272420
Thanks.
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>>148272803
Never-mind. Found it.
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>>148271386
Holy damn.
Someone explain this shit.
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>>148273014
TOUTA STUCK IN TIME AGAIN
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>ialdabaoth
We arslan now
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>>148273122
DENKA
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Should I laugh? I did.
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>>148273184
Its a bad joke. Fuck this, what the fuck is Aakamtsu doing
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Totally forgot that it was coming back. Up on Mega now.
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>>148273184
>KFC man is the Lifemaker
>Negi is the Lifemaker

What's next, Rakan?
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I understand Eva's longstanding grudge against the lifemaker, but the lifemaker has a bone to pick with Eva now?
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>>148273040
Akamatsu you fucking hack
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>>148273225
Isn't Eva his daughter or something?
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So lifemaker si a grill? Or did CR or whoever mess up?
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>>148273222
Thank you anon.
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>>148273253
Not biologically. The lifemaker calls Eva her daughter because she "created" her by making her into a vampire.

But we saw Eva's biological parents in a previous flashback.

>>148273257
Lifemaker's a body hopper, but since they've basically been telling us that's the original body, then yeah, she's a girl.
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>>148273257
Guess who's gonna fall in love next?
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>>148273253
>>148273311
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>>148273354
Did Fate's clones make a comeback in UQ?
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>>148273325
Don't even joke about it.
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>>148273388
No. They're trapped for all eternity anyway. Eva doesn't fuck around.
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>>148273410
Sshhh, just let it happen
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Where can I read this?
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>>148273484
In your heart
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>>148273484
Jesus fuck this is like the hundreth time I'm seeing this stupid question today. Fuck off you retards.
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Old loli Eva is back. Oh, the nostalgia and blissful feelings swelling inside me.
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MAI WAIFU.
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>>148273122
You called?

But in all seriousness, I suppose looks like Akamatsu's going the Demiurge route? Yaldabaoth is another name used for the Demiurge, the god in Gnostic religion.

Basically Gnostism believed that the Abrahamic God was a being that believed itself to be the absolute ruler or creator, when in reality it isn't. Tons of other series (likely unintentionally) do similar things with their deity stories. So I'm guessing he is doing something similar with the Lifemaker?
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>>148273512
Fuck you, give a proper link or stop shitposting.
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>>148273835
google.com
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>>148273600
Retcon or not, I have to say, it feel really good to have my ship actually have credibility after all these fucking years.
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>>148273863
I love smug flat girls
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>>148273600
You know, I'm almost hoping that Negi didn't actually get any bigger, and the appearance we saw was just some advanced age up type shit.

Because those two are at a perfect height for one another right there. Like Albireo said before, they really are the most compatible body wise in this series.
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Who wore it better?
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>>148273600
Dat Negimaru reference.
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>>148273916
>>148273944
I remember using these pages as evidence for an Eva ship in the old shipping debates (boy those were intense). I recall I kept getting shot down, usually due to the reasoning that "Eva is only interested in him because he's Nagi's son"; which was pretty solid logic at the time.

But look at us now.
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>>148274003
I laughed when he added the negimaru reference in one of the last chapters.

>>148273984
Ken has a lot of sameface, but I think it's mildly justifiable for the lifemaker and the averruncus series.
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>>148274012
Eva didn't like Negi 'that way' they said. Ha!
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>>148273984
The left, I think the swirling eyes is kind of overdoing it honestly. The more empty looking one honestly freaks me out more, while the swirls just looks plain silly.
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Mai dick.
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Is negima worth watching?
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>>148274012
>>148274042
What were the Negima threads like on /a/? I didn't actually read the series until after it was over. So I never bothered to actually go into one at the time.

Just as a guess, but I'm thinking waifu wars and constant woes about never getting a faithful anime adaptation?
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>>148274012
It's interesting that the chapter calls out Nagi's similarities to Touta and the fact that Eva might have fallen for Nagi thanks to Touta's retcon in the first place. But Negi is very different from both his dad and Touta, so we can't lay that one at Touta's feet even if they are all from the same family.

>>148274042
On another note, it's worth remembering that Eva's self-loathing is sufficient that it's extremely hard for her to believe in anyone loving her like in that pic.
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>>148274096
>watching
No.

Ken should just re-make Negima.
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>You'll get stabbed by a girl one of these days
Didn't Chisame say that once back in Negima?
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>>148274137
Yes
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>>148274137
yes, it was an obvious negimaru reference, mentioned here -
>>148274003
>>148274034
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>>148274122
>The author is taking a break for research
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>>148274051
I'm on the opposite side. I can't get enough of swirl eyes. That's what made Getter for me.
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>>148274134
Nagi was such a jerk. How could he have not hit that
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>>148274183
I suppose it was kind of Al to spare Touta the scene of Eva molesting Negi in the bath from this chapter.
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>>148274034
Wait, we had negimaru references?
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Don't tell me that in between Negi leaving for the Magic World and Negi returning to Mahora (during which we only saw Scroll Eva) in actual fact Real Eva wasn't just drinking tea the whole time but actually having time travel adventures with Touta?
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>>148274177
This is on a later time than this >>148273600

It was Chisame who stole that line. Fucking bitch
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>>148274225
eh, let's not give a married guy a hard time for being faithful.

On the other hand, when telling Eva to buzz off, he probably should have mentioned that he's happily married.
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>>148274134
Yeah I'm willing to bet (with the new context UQ holder is giving us) that Eva's attraction to Nagi was based on the similarities to Touta.

Her attraction to Negi then, could be considered a separate beast in a way. Since the series really pounded into us hard that Negi was very, very different from his father. Before this, it could have easily been assumed any attraction to Negi was due to being Nagi's son, but with this retroactive information I can safely ay that isn't the case.

The fact that he even went along with her teachings and went as far as to use dark magic, means their personalities were already somewhat compatible to begin with. So I'm willing to bet she just grew attached to him. Hell, even before all this there were times she would get jealous over anyone taking over her "mentor" role over him.
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>>148274225
Because Nagi already had a wife.
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>>148274184
You forgot your image anon
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>>148274250
Chisame's the one who stabs him in negimaru. That's why the line was funny.
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Guys. I'm just putting this out there, but this is in no way makes Eva a slut.
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>>148271386
>Magister Negi Magi 2
FUCK YOU
YOU
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>>148274319
It's what it is.
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>>148274183
>>148274225
>>148274234
Is she a virgin tho
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>>148274319
Hey man, no need to get that uppity. The man is just tickling some nostalgia
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>>148274362
Confirmed not virgin actually.
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51 and 52 are here >>148272420 >>148272829
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>>148274319
>>148271386
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but did a lot of people seriously start reading UQ Holder without knowing anything about Negima?

I just started rereading Negima again due to this, just so I remember all the shit that happened. And I keep seeing comments (in not so small numbers) being like "oh so this is what they were talking about in UQ Holder!" or "It's so weird to see Fate this small, since I'm used to him being taller in UQ Holder."

Was UQ Holder being shounen shit really draw in new readers or something?
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>>148274387
She probably regenerates
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>>148274415
Well, fug.
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>>148273257
So, is it still an Illusional world, or time travel?
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>>148274362
Probably magicked a Nagi/Negi clone to DP her in that magic house. While Cha cha watches
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>>148274122
Negima threads barely had waifu wars. There were a handful of girls considered top tier and that barely changed throughout the series. Most threads were comfy and fun, and that was before Magic World arc after Rakan showed up. Threads after Rakan showed up shifted a fair bit because of the rise in powerlevel and shounen fans making noise. Plus, at the time the big 3 was getting segregated and bash and fans from those series often came in our threads to drag Neguna down, which failed in the end, but it resulted in some pretty heated threads. Still for the most part, Neguma threads since then kept the fun and comfy as best as it can.

Also coffee vs tea.
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>tfw nobody will ever rescan negima
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>>148274454
>Also coffee vs tea.
I still agree with Negi after all these years. How you fucks drink that muddy water in such large quantities will forever confuse me.
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>>148274460
>you will never scanlate Negima again
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>>148274460
Rereading it can be painful, since it is really early 2000s scan quality. We really had some low fucking standards back then in terms of scanlations didn't we?
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>>148271386
So Akamatso forgot how to draw nipples again?
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>>148274454
>>148274505
How does a proper coffee and tea taste? I can never relate since I only ever had instant 3-in-1 coffee and iced tea.
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>>148274540
>>148274527
>>148274460
Wasn't there somebody rescanning Negima?
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>>148274400
Probably the Crunchyroll simulpub crowd.
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>>148274568
Depends on the tea really. You tend to hear some people complain when first trying out tea how it just tastes like hot water. That's usually because they are drinking either green tea or white tea (because those are the commonly known tea types, and people assume they are healthy from name alone). The problem with those being they are a bit light in flavor.

Black tea is usually the way to go, since the flavor is a great deal stronger. What type of water you use also is a factor (tap is usually a no go in my opinion). As for actual flavor, some teas are naturally sweet, while others are more subdued.

In general though, I wouldn't describe the flavor of tea as being intense, like some coffees flavors are.
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>>148274635
Procaine an /a/ tripfag did it for a while up to halfway through volume 5, but when the world needed him most, he vanished.
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>Touta chooses his loli waifu
>Says no to old hag

Based Touta.
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>>148274694
Found it. Last chapter was 50, 5 years ago. Mediafire account is disabled for sharing.
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>>148274735
Sorry, didn't mean to post the once calling you a moron
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>>148272829
What a man Touta is, holy shit.
The woman he loves kissed another guy and smiled about it and he's just happy because she smiled.
Im going to assume that he's still jealous and when he comes out of the book the first thing he'll do is kiss her. but his first reaction was to be happy about her happiness.
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>>148274692
Do you really need to boil tea leaves in a kettle for the genuine tea experience?

>tap is usually a no go
What else do you use? Bottled water?
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>>148274735
>>148274756
Eva always did have some of the best faces.
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>>148274804
If Nagi was similar to Touta, you can kind see how she was hung up on him for a long time. Or is Eva hung up on Negi longer now?
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>>148274694
>>148274540
>>148274527
Why don't you just actually get the licensed mango?
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Sorry to be anal about this, but flashback or timetravel or whatever, when does the start of this chapter take place in regards to Negima?

Asuna uses Kankahou like it's natural, but she could only do that after CH. 173 and her death training. And after she masters it it's all summer vacation until the magic world arc, so it couldn't be set in there as they're obviously having class. But that little vignette at the start definitely didn't feel like post magic arc Negi or Asuna. Colonel Sanders even says this was Negi "before he knew anything, when he lived a peaceful life."

Is this just an error on Akamatsu's part or is this a clue that this is an illusion, and lifemaker demiurge sanders just created a "typical" Negi Asuna moment for Touta to see?
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>>148271386
>He gets sent back in time to watch
>Instead shit happens and he gets stuck in there for RETCONS

This is just another level of poor writing.
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>>148274454
who were the top girls?, I liked the shy girl with hair on her eyes
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>>148274932
EVERYTHING IS A LIE. EVA DOESN'T LIKE NEGI LIKE THAT. SHE LIKES NAGI AS HE REMINDED HER OF TOUTA
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>>148274735
Procaine did 47-51, actually.
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pd524qva1bvto/Mahou_Sensei_Negima_v01-38%5BVarious%5D
I can't believe my MF account is still alive. Man, it has been almost 7 years since I made that. I painstakingly kept tracked of every release as best as I could and made alternatives for those who might prefer a different translation or higher quality scans.
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>>148274963
Who says he was actually sent back. Albireo is like an archiver of lives and combined with the Lifemaker this could all be a fake world.
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>>148274978
Nodoka was the top worst girl
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>>148274862
>Do you really need to boil tea leaves in a kettle for the genuine tea experience?
I mean I wouldn't say it is a must, but soaking the leaves in water tends to have the best result in my experience. There are also things like temperatures you boil it at depending on the type of leaves you have. But personally I say just experiment with shit and see what you like the most.

The gist is that if you're the type who is like "I must have the perfect tea" then yeah those types of things matter a lot. But if you're like, "I just want a bit of tea to enjoy while reading" then slapping a teabag in a cup and pouring boiling water is just fine as long as you know not to fuck it up (you'd be surprised how many people fuck that simple process up).

>What else do you use? Bottled water?
Bottled water is fine, but I happen to own a water filter, and that works out just as well. To be honest tap water isn't entirely out of the question, just that (again depending on the tea you're making) it can wipe out the flavor completely sometimes.
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>>148274991
Wonderful. Thanks for that perfectly relevant answer.
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>>148274902
I think time wise she has actually been hung up on Negi for much longer than Nagi. Seems like her attraction to Nagi was based mainly around her lingering feelings for Touta. While her love for Negi was more genuine.
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>>148275011
You know it's not. He's done it before, he's doing it again.

Ken is trying his best to make Touta and Eva a thing, but fans don't buy or want it.
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>>148274931
I own most of them actually, but it is in the single volumes. I could get the rest, but in my local stores they are only sold in omnibus format. And my collectors OCD can't have me owning most of them in singles, and the rest in the compilations.

And before you say order online, I would, but at the moment that's not an option for me right now.
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>>148275060
>While her love for Negi was more genuine.
Those are some fighting words in a UQ thread
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>>148274931
Didn't the English licensing switch publishers in the middle of the run? Which one was the shitty translation, and which one was the decent one? I actually really want to buy this series now.
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>>148275099
A lot of the early single volumes TL had awful translations, you're better off switching to all omnibus then.
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>>148274247
Wasn't there an interlude that showed her in the secret base under the library drinking tea with Sanders?
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>>148275094
It was cute at first, but now its just like a shitty fanfiction. Just go Negima 2 or stop riding its dead wave Akamatsu. This is pretty sacrilegious to a beloved character like Eva
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>>148274931
There are scans of the first three volumes, but they are somewhat liberal with their translation.
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>>148275017
>then slapping a teabag in a cup and pouring boiling water is just fine as long as you know not to fuck it up
Wait, teabags are not considered 'instant' tea?
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>>148275131
It didn't switch publishers, Del Rey was bought out by Kodansha USA and they continued localization. The Kodansha Ones are generally better as the early Del Rey volumes, like 1-6, were awful. Kodansha retranslated the early stuff, but it's only released in omnibus format.
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>>148275094
Is Touta the Roman Reigns of Negima?
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>>148275127
Come at me.
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>>148275175
>Just go Negima 2
Read the new subtitle
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>>148275094
I want it.
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>>148275138
>A lot of the early single volumes TL had awful translations, you're better off switching to all omnibus then.
Oh really? Then do you know if the Omnibus also contains the cover art for the single volumes in them? It's a bit silly, but part of the reason I buy the singles is just because I like having all the different covers. And I know some omnibus versions of manga don't include them.
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>>148274400
I read Negima first. I'm just not enjoying UQ as much and wish Ken decided to remake Negima or write actual ending, as he planned.
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>>148275201
It kind of is and kind of isn't. Teabags still require a bit of prep work to actually have it tasting decent. Just putting it in boiling water isn't really that great an idea.

But in a way it is a bit "instant" with the fact that the leaves are pretty much pre-prepared and it is just a matter of extracting the flavor out of them.
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>>148275127
Just like the manga, a UQ thread is a Negima thread
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>>148275259
The omnibuses contain 3 volumes each and the cover of each of them is pulled from promotional art, like magazine cover art and the like, not the actual covers. The original covers are shown on the back of the omnibuses (omnibi?) but shrunken down in like 2" by 3" sections.

That said, the omnibuses do contain A LOT of other good stuff like design notes, translation decisions/clarifications, spell descriptions, character profiles etc. I own like the first 6 omnibuses as I judged them superior to the original translations. After that both the omnibuses and single volumes are fairly equivalent.
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>>148274399
So did Kunel just send him back in time...Again? to negima? what in the actual fuck?
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>>148275373
>>148275399
I still really appreciate Akamatsu for being one of the few people in Japan that actually knows what the fuck he is doing when using Latin. Though he had a few mistakes here and there, it was so much better than any other series at the time (and now really).

>>148275407
That's a bit disappointing to hear about the covers, but the rest actually sounds amazing. I guess I'll just donate my single volumes and go and buy the omnibus versions instead.

Thanks for the clarification anon.
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>>148274932
>"before he knew anything, when he lived a peaceful life."
I suspect he's still counting the events of Negima as "a peaceful life" and that the bad stuff is post Negima.
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>>148275094
Yeah this is getting out of hand. I don't really feel like reading UQ anymore.

Why not just make Yukihime fall for Touta in the present day and that's fucking it? Why does he need to retcon Negima? He KNOWS people don't like Touta or any of the UQ cast as much as Negima so why does he try to FORCE those characters so much? If he was more natural about it then people would start to like them.
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>>148275060
Nagi was I guess for 15 years or so. Negi's been for almost 90 I guess. We don't know how long she was hung up on Touta before she sank into darkness for hundreds of years pre Nagi though.

>>148275094
>>148275011
I'm curious how this works if it's actual time travel. Dana has time powers, but Al, as far as I can remember, is a gravity mage.
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>>148275503
I suppose. Maybe it's because Negi's happy again and he's not constantly brooding over Space Elevators and Asuna's fate that it didn't seem like it could be post Magic World. But having reread it, all the classmates know/accept Asuna and Negi using magic so it seems likely it takes place in the 6 month timeskip at the end of Negima.
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>>148275570
Shame UQ Holder ruins all these moments. It truly is.

I wish I could pretend it doesn't exist but I can't erase my memory
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>>148275284
I honestly enjoyed UQ more before Touta got shoehorned into every important piece of Eva's past I don't think retcon is the right word but it feels too late to include what seems like something extremely important to her character and for it to not feel awkward and clunky especially since it wasn't alluded. Making an entire new cast was better though especially since he already gave spoilers about all the girls' endings.
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>>148275547
Revealing new information about a situation is NOT a retcon. He isn't actively going back and changing events, just opening new angles to them and filling in more details. This isn't a retcon unless it is all somehow timetravel and the event at the end of the chapter ends up having actually happened, not just an illusion.
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>>148275094
>but fans don't buy or want it.
Of course, since you're the one who says it, it must be true.

I actually didn't give two shit about it, but the obvious nagi/eva saltiness is just delicious.
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>>148271900
I don't get it, is it taking place at the same place same time? Is Negi just watching all of this?
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>>148275564
>but Al, as far as I can remember, is a gravity mage.
Seeing as Al turned into MotB at the end I'd wager this is an illusion or a fake world a la Cosmo Entelekia (sp?). Even the Mage hasn't shown any timetravel abilities. It's best not to get anyone's panties in a twist screaming RETCON until the next couple chapters actually come out.
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>>148275318
Jesus, even teabags are hard.
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>>148275622
Doesn't ruin anything. We knew she loved Nagi before, now that's just transposed onto Touta instead in a lot of these scenes. That said, her love for Negi does seem to be real and something apart from that for Touta.
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>mfw when you're the only one liking what Akamatsu doing right now
I don't think I can ever share this feeling to anyone after seeing this thread.
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>>148275622
>ruin
What are you talking about? These scenes fleshed them out in some ways.
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>>148275622
I don't think that's the case. From what I see it is mostly putting her feelings for Nagi in a new perspective using Touta. While showing that her love for Negi was its own thing, and why she is rejecting Touta in the present day.

I'm personally taking this as a way of sinking the Touta ship, and having him drop his obsession with her. Like still care about her and all, but give up on her romantically because of her love for Negi.
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>>148275720
>Seeing as Al turned into MotB
He didn't. Both Al and MotB are attacking Touta although it's a bit hard to tell.
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>>148275782
It's okay bruh, I'm with you.
Just not being vocal about it.
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>>148275666
That's why the manga was moved to a monthly magazine right? because it's amazing popularity.

That's why Ken had to keep bringing Negima characters after a start with almost none of them, because it's super popular and loved.

That's why he needed to add "Magister Negi Magi!" to the name of the series right? Because people love UQ holder!
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>>148275782
I think the people screaming about retcons are in the minority. Personally I appreciate this chapter a lot since it makes me feel really fucking vindicated over my ship choice.

Besides we're not entirely sure about the context with this chapter. Whether or not it is real, cosmo entelecheia type shit, or actual time travel is still up for debate.
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I'm amused that after Touta recognized the immortal girls, he saw Isana and Konoka when he looked at Setsuna and Konoka.
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>>148275827
>Like still care about her and all, but give up on her romantically because of her love for Negi.
This is what I want. And in the end, she's actually going to choose one herself after this is all over.
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I wonder why Al's gravity sword seems to have it in for him.
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>>148275855
>That's why the manga was moved to a monthly magazine right? because it's amazing popularity.
I didn't know the reason for the move, but I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with popularity.

>That's why Ken had to keep bringing Negima characters after a start with almost none of them, because it's super popular and loved.
You do know he already brings up negima character on the very first page right?

>That's why he needed to add "Magister Negi Magi!" to the name of the series right? Because people love UQ holder!
It's a flashback (kinda) chapter, he's doing that on purpose. I can bet hundred burgers that he won't add that again on the next chapter.

See? This is delicious.
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>>148275828
Well from the previous chapters it's still likely that Al and the others are under the control of the MotB, so same difference really.
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>>148275660
I agree with almost all of your points.

>Making an entire new cast was better though especially since he already gave spoilers about all the girls' endings.
New cast is either hit or miss for me. In Negima I liked pretty much every girl and I wouldn't mind reading story even if ending was spoiled.
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>>148276007
>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-10-07/uq-holder-manga-adds-magister-negi-magi-2-subtitle/.107381
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>>148276014
Come to think of it, the leg on the old version of naked Eva is kinda weird compared to the newer version. More flat chest on new version too.

Less Chachamaru tho, but I guess I can forgive since this is what Touta is looking at and he probably doesn't even care.
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>>148275782
To be fair Im perfectly fine with what hes doing, but the fact still remains, if this is timetravel. The series is now in an alternate universe where half of the later events didnt even happen. I can understand why some people would be butthurt about it. Its literally like reading 15-20 volumes of content you enjoyed only to find the ending was shit(not really bad)but writing wise and then only to read the sequel series and find out that those 20 volumes dont even happen in the full picture of the timeline.

Technically touta could have been forcefully removed from his timeline only to create another alternate one, which ever since chao was introduced has always existed in negima.

Theres Chaos timeline
Theres the timeline of post festival chao created
The one negi created AFTER going back in time to change it,which follows the rest of the series until its conclusion
Then theres the timeline split with asuna sleeping.
Now potentially this.
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>>148276007
>I didn't know the reason for the move
Ken is getting old. He explained it himself that he doesn't feel he can keep up with the weekly schedule anymore.
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>>148276007
>I didn't know the reason for the move, but I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with popularity.
Going from weekly to monthly is considered a downgrade anon, it's like going from Shonen JUMP to JUMP SQ

>You do know he already brings up negima character on the very first page right?
Evangeline, who is not really Evangeline at all but Yukihime. Still I did say "almost none of them"

And asides from her he didn't try to bring Negima into the story until it started to flop.

>It's a flashback (kinda) chapter, he's doing that on purpose. I can bet hundred burgers that he won't add that again on the next chapter.

No, it was announced that it changed it's name to that.
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>>148276132
Holder was never in the epilogue timeline. In that timeline, they fight the lifemaker and win for good within 20 years and even save Nagi thanks to Asuna's power.

In Holder's timeline they fought they lifemaker 60 years later and lost Negi in the process and haven't won for good. And Asuna is almost certainly still asleep, hence why things turned out this way.
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I don't get it, the sword's master showed touka memories of his grandpa then decided to kill him after an evangeline in his illusion recognized touka?
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>>148276165
>Going from weekly to monthly is considered a downgrade anon
Not really, also got nothing to do with popularity.

>And asides from her he didn't try to bring Negima into the story until it started to flop.
Someone post the sales.

>>148276219
The fuck is touka?
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>>148276007
>I didn't know the reason for the move, but I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with popularity.
Going from Weekly Magazine to Bessatsu Magazine is being demoted anon.
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>>148276255
What's the MC's name?
Negi's grandson.

Touta or something whatever. I'm here for the fanservice.
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>>148276092
What the fuck Ken. Fucking fuckity fuck. This isn't the sequel I wanted nor the series deserved. Fuc
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>>148276132
People who are butthurt like this faggot >>148276165
Should be shot
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>>148276219
The actual purpose of the flashbacks in this chapter is that it's running in a new magazine and some people checking it out will not have read negima, or even the rest of uqh.

So this was necessary for this first chapter.

Having said that, we don't know yet why Al and/or the Lifemaker wanted Touta to see this. I guess our only clue so far is the whole "she'll never be happy and she knows it" so maybe they want Touta to give up on her and come with them willingly.
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>>148276255
>Not really
Yes really

>also got nothing to do with popularity.
Yes it does fuckface, Weekly Magazine has much more circulation than bessatsu, you need to pull better numbers in magazine sales and volume sales if you want to be in there. Don't be a retard.
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>>148276343
But right now he's carrying an illusion of here or is that the real her?

Where did she come from?
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>>148276198
My point was though, that despite people being mad about it, timeline splits have always existed. It just makes negima and UQ holder really annoying to follow. Its all fucking canon even the bad ends like zombie apocalypse.

What most people would want is say literally book 1-20 Negima and then 1-X UQ/Negima 2 so everything in context start to finish makes sense. People are butthurt because they feal their time spent was partially invalidated.

>Holder was never in the epilogue timeline.
Yes at this point its obvious. Its a brand new story containing all the same rules of time travel imagine always had. And if this is time travel it puts the nail in the coffin on that note.
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>>148276014
Left version is superior. Ken actually used his old softer style there, but with clearer and slightly heavier lines lifted from UQH's current style.

I would love to have Negima all re-drawn if Ken the style on the left.
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>>148276278
Akamatsu's fanservice never give me boner for some reason, except for love hina and even that when I'm still little shit.

He need to draw the nipple.
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>>148276385
We don't know yet how the mechanics of what they are doing work. This could be an illusion, a fake world, or they could be interfering with time. We'll have to wait for the next chapter.

And yeah, I just went back and checked 128 and Al says he's doing this so Touta can make his choice, so I guess it probably is to try to make him give up on her and come with them.
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>>148276364
No, not really.

See>>148276137
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>>148276343
To me, it seemed more like Akamatsu was implying she was never actually happy in Negima. Of course, Touta will be the one to make her feel truly happy.
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>>148276528
>she was never actually happy in Negima
>>148272829
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>>148276528
eh, like I said, >>148276455
I checked and Al's reason for showing all of this to Touta does seem to be to get him to choose to side with them one way or another.
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>>148276092
NOOOOO BROS WHAT HAPPENED

IT ISN'T FAIR, UQ IS IT'S OWN THING AND IT DOESN'T DEPEND ON NEGIMA!, THIS ISN'T FAIR BROS WHY
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>>148276438
Only time it did for me was when Negi got rape-y that one time, and Eva being aggressively intimate. We need more of those
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>>148276528
I have the feeling that Negi's group actually trying to force Lifemaker to move to another vessel (Touta) and called it a day.
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>>148276625
Dude, you're so obvious.
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>>148276661
NO BRO THIS ISN'T FAIR, WHY IS KEN BETRAYING US UQBROS
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>>148276069
I can understand that the new cast is a hit of miss for some, especially since the old cast was so loved but he wanted a new cast for whatever reason. I can say although I miss the old cast I actually quite like the new ones too, their personalities grew on me. I just wish he'd focus more on their dynamic, that touta meets Eva arc would have been better to me if it instead focused on touta becoming closer to the group. I hope after this arc Ken could stop with the Eva romance and focus more on them too.
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>>148276682
You do know you're making us negimafags look bad with that post right?
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>>148276554
And the scene right after has her torn in half with while the Lifemaker states that she she "will never find happiness," something she apparently knows. Of course, this is an antagonist saying this, it may be it just trying to start shit.

That being said, the panel where the Lifemaker says "If there were a road to salvation, there would only be one" seems to imply that Touta will be the one to save her, not Nagi or Negi. Big Match Touta does it again.
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why instead of talking shit we wait for the next chapter to see what the hell is all this about?
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So, when's the anime going to air?
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>>148275175
The sheer autism of your post makes me hope he keeps doing it even more blatantly
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>>148276753
He doesn't care because he's the same autistic nigger who has been bitching in every fucking UQ/Negima thread for the past 3 (or 5) years
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>>148276700
While I understand what you are saying, Eva is the main heroine of this manga.

>>148276795
Given the lifemaker's MO, she probably means that Eva can only be happy in something like Cosmo Entelecheia.
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>>148274400
It didn't draw in new readers. UQ Holder got kicked out from a magazine that had a circulation number of 1 million to a manga magazine that only has a circulation number of 83 thousand.

UQ Holder didn't have enough readers to make it worth it taking magazine page space from more popular manga in its original magazine.
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>>148276635
>saving your friend by dooming the universe

Sounds like a plan

>>148276842
Because wood elves never
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>>148277025
It's been explained multiple times that Akamatsu is too old to keep up with a weekly manga yet you keep pushing your theory

You're not going to change reality with your shitposting, you're just one butthurt faggot not /pol/
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>>148272829
I- I want protect her smile!!
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>>148277050
Keep crying. UQ Holder isn't popular. Deal with it.

Even Pixiv and Comiket don't give a shit about it, including the old Negima doujin circles.
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It's possible that there are multiple "Asuna sleeps" timelines of course. If this is meant to be the same one we saw at the end of Negima it does raise a few questions though.

That Eva told Asuna that Negi "died satisfied" and he did seem to really be dead, though of course she could have been lying about how he died to make Asuna feel better, but who knows.

Regardless, if it's the same one, Negi will die, but will get a good death.

On the other hand, we know that Eva abandons that timeline and goes dimension hopping with Chao after seeing Asuna off to the epilogue timeline. If it were the exact same timeline it raises the question of what happens to Touta and the rest of UQ Holder within the next 40 years that makes Eva give up on the timeline and leave.
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>>148276625
>>148276682
NEVER EVER
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>>148277015
That's true. Though the way Akamatsu drew that page makes me feel like he's just pushing Eva more toward Touta. Which I'd have been fine with, but everything about Touta seems inorganic as hell for some reason.
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Is there reason to believe this isn't real somehow because Eva is entirely incapable of fighting back, or is it just to be expected because Nagi's school curse is keeping her from doing anything?
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>>148277137

I want to read UQ Holder, but I don't know if I can handle finally going back and reading Negima's ending. Negima was my favorite manga for so many years, and everyone said the ending was the worst trash of all time. I don't know if I can handle having something so important to my youthful days potentially ruined...

Also I'm sure none of my girls won the Negibowl ;-;
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Do I have to watch Shingeki no Kyojin first to understand this show?
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UQ Holder bombed harder than Nagasaki and Hiroshima that Negima resurfaced again after 4 years
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>>148277606
Yes but you need to watch Shingeki no Bahamut before Kyojin.
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>>148277632
Yet the sales of UQ Holder say otherwise.
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>>148276423
>>148276119
>>148276014
And also remember that the early volumes of Negima up to around Kyoto were drawn weirdly too, possibly Ken was trying to make it not look like Love Hina too much.

Compare the class roster at the beginning of the series to the one drawn much later.
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>>148277633
Thanks man, should be cool. I love Final Fantasy
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Why is lifemaker and everyone else trying so hard to break Touta with NTR?
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We still don't know what Eva was doing while Negi was in Hueco Mundo, so maybe there is room there for a time-travelling Touta to show up at Mahora and do shipping things with her, and it won't be a retcon.
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>>148277862
Its not NTR if they're not together in the first place
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>>148277880
literally a retcon
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>>148271386
How long till she beats negis sorry ass?
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>>148277117
>if I shitpost more then reality will change
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>>148277119
Touta fucks the Lifemaker because she's a lot more tragic and in need of a smile than Eva

Also Touta finds out that the Lifemaker is sad because he is the reincarnation of the only man she ever loved or something
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>>148277976
>If I keep crying, UQ Holder won't drop even more dead.
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>>148278003
Well that's one way to defeat her, make her Touta's dick slave.
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>>148277632
>move to new magazine
>change title so that if retards who buy new magazine like what they see they can go back and buy all the Negima volumes and read those too
>"haha clearly UQ is dead lol"

Akamatsu is just making money, he doesn't care about how asshurt you are that Negima ended because you still bought the volumes you faggot
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>>148278008
>if I shitpost in every UQ thread for years on end then something will happen, surely!
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>>148277928

I bet Kaede could train her to beat magic. Ninja power, yo.
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Hahahahahahaha How The Fuck Do Powerlevel Have Any Meaning Hahahahaha
Nigga Just Freeze Time And Kill Them Like Nigga Stab Them
Haha
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>>148277928
My working theory right now is that it's not just Fate and Eva who are opposed to each other, but rather Class 3-A/Ala Alba underwent a major schism in response to Negi getting bodyjacked, separating into two opposing blocs fighting over the clone project.
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>>148278043
Man, the threads are going to be even worse when the anime airs.
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>>148278043

Reprinting older volumes is a legitimate way to make money.
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>>148278060
Keep crying. Your tears are delicious. You know your comments about UQ Holder never changing magazine are archived right?

Also, Ken brags about having more manga assistants than average. Nice to see UQ cucks are in denial over Ken complaining about not being able to draw if you can call it drawing these days since Ken just copy and pastes as bad as the Gantz artist.

Must be incredibly easy to just copy and paste so many old scenes for shitty flashbacks and call it a day.
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>>148278086
>implying it will ever get an anime
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>>148278043
>move to less popular magazine
>desperately have to mention uq holder is a sequel so people can even know what uq holder is
>No one even wants any UQ Holder goods.

The publisher doesn't even provide any store goods like posters or keychains if you buy the manga tanks.

Sorry UQ Holder is a rotting corpse. Time to wake up and accept reality, UQ cuck.
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>>148278132
>Slowpoke.
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>>148278132
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-06-18/negima-spinoff-manga-uq-holder-gets-anime/.103359
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/06/21-1/author-akamatsu-releases-comments-on-uq-holder-anime-adaptation
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>>148278043
>Akamatsu is just making money

Ken can't even afford his former assistant that knows Latin
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At least my waifu is back
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>>148278206
>inb4 A-1 pictures
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>>148278241

2nd Best Girl after Chachamaru. Good taste anon. I was mad butthurt she never got to join the party.
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>>148278172
That's why it's getting an anime right?
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>>148278272
>2nd Best Girl
You mean Best Girl you stupid idiot
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>>148278215
He lost that assistant during Negima.
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>>148278318
old and busted
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>>148278318

Yo, being 2nd best to Chachamaru is nothing to be ashamed of.
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I don't get it. Why would Lifemaker still care so much about Eva?

Is she her ultimate Averruncus project or something?

Make her suffer for centuries so she becomes an edgy murder machine?
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>>148278461
Maybe she's trying to manipulate Eva into becoming her perfect vessel?
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>>148278543
But Eva is already perfect
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>>148271871
Additions to backstories that anon doesnt approve because he prefers Negima and doesnt approve of it's ending or UQ Holder.
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>>148278279
Here's hoping the anime turns out better than that abomination that was the Negima anime.
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>>148275866
>I think the people screaming about retcons are in the minority
Coming from the people who like UQ Holder who are definitely in the minority?
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>>148276014
>Ken took all these months off to just copypasta old panels instead of redrawing them.
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>>148278279
Getting an anime has never been a sign of popularity. That abomination Christmas OVA Ken was behind proves this.
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>>148272829
Yes
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>>148271386
>Magister Negi Magi 2

Oh shit.
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>>148274180
>>148274177
>>148274137
>>148274003
>>148274034
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>>148277880
>>148274247
Except that we know that Eva was just chilling around in the interregnum
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>shipping
Nobody remembers these?
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>>148279050

Damn, girls.

Also heh at those Eva scores in hindsight
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>>148278461
It's not eva but touta i think. She justuse it as an excuse make touta join her team.
Life maker is the one who is responsible for eva being a vampire right? Maybe at that time she think that by granting eternal life there will be no more suffering in this world so she can be free from all of the suffering i think.
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>>148278860
Are you retarded? That OVA got animated BECAUSE of popularity. Why animate random shitty manga if not for popularity?
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Is touta going to cuck negi and nagi
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>>148278348
>old and busted
>literal clone with a flat chest
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>>148271900
MOTB a cute!
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>>148273122
>>148273687
We Persona 5 now.
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>>148279556
>flat chest
For now. She's still got plenty of time.
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>>148279663
Perfect as she is anon. Why ruin that
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>>148275782
Only nostalgiafags are that mad though. They act as if their opinion is the general one and as if UQH had not been called Negima's sequel since the beginning.
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to celebrate and hype UQ moving from SM to BSM, there will be another round of limited merchandise made available, remember the well received Kirie blanket and Eva T-shirt? this time it would be the Eva blanket, in the same pose as Kirie, application details would be in next month’s BSM (Dec issue, out November 9th), fee is to be expected.

and oh yes the picture is hot, remember how the blanket is supposed to be used…
http://natalie.mu/comic/news/204766

the UQ #12 limited edition with the “Negima Box” will be out also on 11/09, including the design booklet, the Negima 2017 calendar, UQ animation memorial special DVD, Eva wall fibre scroll, and Eva Pactio Card. (remember pre-order period is already over.)
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>>148271386
>Magister Negi Magi 2
The madman actually did it
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>>148279215
>Why animate random shitty manga if not for popularity?
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>>148280204
>to celebrate and hype UQ moving from SM to BSM
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>>148275782
Don't worry anon, I agree with you. If anything, this is probably my most favourite chapter. It fills in a lot of gaps and shows things from a different angle and more importantly, it shows Eva in various ways that make my heart throb.

This also needs a render.
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>>148280583
What a sly minx, pretending to be a dominatrix only to giggle like an innocent little girl
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>>148280183
>nostalgiafags
>Magister Negi Magi 2
Why do UltraQualityfags exist when all Ken does is prove that his money is coming from those "nostalgiafags" now that its apparent that nobody ever cared about the new cast and setting?
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>Chapter 129 is actually redrawn scenes from the best arc of Negima

THANK YOU KEN
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>>148280871
"Re"drawn""
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>>148280759
Are you fucking stupid? UQ Holder has always been called Negima's sequel. First you say it's not popular then you say money comes from nostalgiafags.
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I used to love Negima so much, but somewhere along the line I dropped the manga where I thought it became a bit too long. Last thing I remember is his adventure in Mars.
Evangeline was my very first waifu.
Reading this thread makes me shed some tears.
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>>148280871
>redrawn
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>>148280976
>UQ Holder has always been called Negima's sequel.
That subtitle came up in the recent chapter
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>>148280976
>UQ Holder has always been called Negima's sequel.
Are UltraQualityfags always like to revisionists now? Firs they kept saying that UQ Holder can stand on its own and now they're saying it was always a shitty sequel?
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>>148280976
UQfags have always said that it's not a sequel until proven otherwise.
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>>148280976
Why are you still replying? Are you really this new? You guys have been taking the same fucking bait from what is obviously the same person for years. I swear the person who replies is the same each time as well. Stop fucking replying already, have you never heard of don't feed the trolls? At first it was kinda funny, but now its starting to get actually annoying. I'm okay with a little shitposting and fun in threads, its what makes /a/ enjoyable. But its nothing but a giant shitfest between two people who just want to get the last fucking reply over the exact same inane shit in these threads now. The replies are almost fucking 1:1 each time.

It's almost as if you came right from /b/, /v/ or /pol/ and never heard of the notion of not fucking replying and can only move from the most primal function of replying to everything you see.
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>>148272831
wtf is with Eva's shoes
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>>148281271
They're retcon slippers.
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>>148281019
>>148281045
>>148281067
It's the opposite actually. It's a sequel, but reading Negima is not necessary. The standing on its own thing is a different topic because some were bored by this arc with more Negima characters in it while others were saying Negima is the only reason they are reading it.
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>>148281421
>It's a sequel, but reading Negima is not necessary.
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>>148281376
What kawaii slippers. Looks comfy
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I think it's time for me to reread negima again.

And then maybe finally get started on UQ holder
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>>148281890
>wasting time on UQ Holder

Even rereading Negima isn't worth it

It should have been ended during the festival arc
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Can someone help me understand what you people are getting angry about? Do you not like Negima and UQ Holder?
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>>148281916
Jack Rakan is still one of my favorite arcs
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>>148281947
It's just the regular thread shitposting that has been gone on since the series first started. It's about 1 -3 guys shitposting against the series and idiots, who I swear come from /v/, who don't know the concept of not fucking replying.
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>>148272829
I'm literally tearing up.

Eva smiling is the best
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>>148281947
Welcome to /a/, faggot. Enjoy your stay.
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I didn't even really finish Negima, so Eva beat all the other girls and ended up Negi's woman?
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>>148282283
Nobody won

The ending is an insult to all Negima fans

Eva was retained because she's popular and she's immortal
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>>148277345
It depends on how real it is. However, keep in mind that after Eva trapped all the lifemaker's dolls and Dynamis and that dragon for all eternity, the lifemaker showed up and paralyzed Eva, so she couldn't do anything.
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>>148282396
Wait, I thought that fucker was planning to confess to one of them,
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>>148282493
The ending is rushed garbage and offered no real resolution
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>>148281271
She's just wearing slippers, that's all.

>>148282283
Negi liked someone at the end of Negima, though we still don't know who. We know of a few people it wasn't, but that's about it. He may or may not have grown out of it, and ended up liking someone else, but we also don't know that.

What we do know is that thanks to his body he couldn't have children, and that he was ultimately body jacked by the lifemaker.
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>>148275060
Those lingering feelings for both were due to Touta's reassuring nature whenever she was at her worst.

I honestly don't know why you people are reading UQ Holder since it's based around a new MC, Ken fully intends to complete the Nagi + Negi image of them being jobbers, if you are a hard core nostalgia fag there is a point where this Negi will betray you compared to his self from Negima, all story telling points practically rush into this direction.
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>>148271501

t. assmad nostalgiafag
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>>148282283
He said he loved Nodoka
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>>148279050
Asuna's lust for Negi is too high for me to consider it a normal brother/sister relationship.

She's a literal pervert.
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>>148282076
I feel like they are the matured weeds from the endless shipping discussions + cucking phase we've gone through in the last 2 years.

Also they didn't go through the process of following UQ as it started which was a rough as fuck ride to adjust too, and despite our complaints early UQ threads were civil in discussion while heated.

Now nostalgia fags are back in droves once references popped in, and they are cancerous as fuck. There's plenty of dislike, but for them they never lurked or took the time to get to know Touta's character and his progress, hell, they probably just picked up from the most recent chapters and rightfully hate his guts because he's thrown into what is obviously a continuation of a past loved but ultimately failed story in that rushed ending.
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>>148282890
>muh nostalgiafags

You are the only reason we have shitposters in these threads.

You are the retard that started these wars with
>Muh nostalgiafags don't understand that nobody cares about Negima xD

And you've only managed to piss people off, not to mention get BTFO over and over again.


I repeat what I always say, this is a Negima sequel, so if you don't like Negima then fuck off and stop falseflagging trying to piss off the fanbase
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>>148282667
>>148282890
Fuck off
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>>148282742
He also loved a bunch of other girls.
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>>148282890
>nostalgia fags
Anon, you must have fallen for the same trap yourself, because those are the same people who picked up and discuss the manga on /a/ first. The ones who saw the announcement of his new manga, the ones who rushed to start the thread the moment the raws were available. All those were evident right from the start. Yes, there were civil threads, but there were that sort of bitching from the beginning. Sorry mate, I've been following the threads since chapter 1 and you're one of the nostalgia fags too, just in a different way.
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>>148279050
>affection
>love

Whats the difference
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>>148283348

One is romantic, one isn't
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>>148283348
>affection
>əˈfɛkʃ(ə)n/
>noun
>noun: affection; plural noun: affections
> 1. a gentle feeling of fondness or liking.
> "she felt affection for the wise old lady"

>love
>lʌv/
>noun
>noun: love; plural noun: loves
> 1. a strong feeling of affection.
> "babies fill parents with intense feelings of love"
> 2. a great interest and pleasure in something.
> "his love for football"
> 3. a person or thing that one loves.
> "she was the love of his life"
>verb
>verb: love; 3rd person present: loves; past tense: loved; past participle: loved; gerund or present participle: loving
> 1. feel deep affection or sexual love for (someone).
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>>148283158
>>148283301
The first thread didn't get anywhere as bad as this >>148147337
Can't get blown the fuck out when I'm not discussing with the slow fuckers of /a/
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>>148283512
Yes, yes they were. It was more or less the same few bickering since the early days.
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>>148282283
He didn't love Eva. IF he did he would not be calling her master. He spent a lot less time with her since the MM arc because she was with a clone when many girls got points and a line in a UQH arc clearly implies that he fell for a human.
>>148282742
Nodoka and Yue have clearly been rejected.
>>148283600
You must be nreally new to say this.
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>>148283666
>she was
he was*
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>>148283666
>Nodoka and Yue have clearly been rejected
Yeah no, he clearly showed signs of loving Nodoka the most in a romantic sense
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>>148283666
>You must be nreally new to say this.
Just stop it. This is getting pathetic and you're not helping the case. Ironically, like what >>148283158 you're part of and contributing to the problem.
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>>148283301
Anon, threads got way worse in the last few months before the hiatus (after the training with Dana? I don't remember exactly). I used to dump the chapters as soon as they were available on the goddess, but they really got too insufferable.
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>>148283666
>shit, i'm out of argument, better pretend to be an oldfag
It's always so obvious when retards like you have run out of argument but their pride wouldn't allow them to accept that they got BTFO. Sure, keep blaming others while at the some time whining about how shit the thread is because you have no self-awareness.
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>>148283743
After years and years posting here I recognize shitpost very easily and I have learned how to ignore it. I don't remember those threads being that bad, but then again I skip and forget obvious bait.
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>>148273311
>Not biologically
We don't know that. For all we know, LifeMaker-chan may well be Eva's biological mom, who faked her death and conducting experiment on her own daughter. She is a body hopper, after all.
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>>148283863
likewise, anyone who doesn't provide a decent counter argument gets filtered for me. Also for >>148283743 like I was saying, in my opinion catching the first thread was generally healthier than any consecutive one after.
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>>148272829
Touta
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>>148283798
>>148283723
I am not the same anon you were talking to. There were critics, like with all manga. But it became more intense during the Dana arc. Especially with the retard posting retcon again and again and NegixEva shippers. You are pretty dumb if you think it has always been like that. Knowing all of this, it's easy for me to guess that you are pretending.
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>>148274963
Touta is the disciple of Dana, the witch of space-time. It means time travel is nothing to him, nigga.
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>>148284332
>Dana
What is it about superpowered fat meme lady that pissed people off so hard?
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Why couldn't Eva see Touta at first, and only after leaving Negi did she suddenly notice he was there?
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>>148284456
She doesn't stay in her superior loli form.
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>>148275094
>>148275244
I want it too.
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>>148284456
That's not her character. NegixEva shippers were pissed because Touta met Eva before everyone. It's also starting from this arc that Touta became more liked as a character(even Astro a NegixEva shipper who hated him started to like him from there) so the clash between salty nostalgiafags and UQH supporters reached a new level and retconfag, now the biggest cancer in UQH thread was born. Just Ctrl + F retcon and you will understand.
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Have they revealed who Negi bonked to create Touta?
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>>148276528
>To me, it seemed more like Akamatsu was implying she was never actually happy in Negima. Of course, Touta will be the one to make her feel truly happy.
This. Both Negi and Nagi only bring her sadness and misery. Touta is Eva's one and only destined man.
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>>148284745
>retcon
Why are people using this word like it is an inherently bad thing? Retcons, like any writing tool, can be used well or be done in a shitty manner. In terms of western comics it is usually the latter. But I wouldn't say this is a case of a bad retcon. Why?

Because it doesn't contradict anything from what I can see. These retcons aren't changing anything really from the past series, just giving greater context (mostly in regards to Eva's behavior).

While some can interpret it as really hard pushing for the Touta x Eva thing, I actually see it as the opposite. If anything this new context has made the Negi x Eva ship stronger than it has ever been before. I see it as a way of developing Touta's character, and taking care of one of the main reasons people dislike him. His retarded focus on Eva and disregard for anything else.

We'll have to see how the next chapter goes, but I do think that is the direction we are heading for. While there are some with the strong opinion that Touta x Eva is obvious, do recall that the same was said about Asuna throughout Negima too.

>>148284784
He's a clone. As far as we know Negi didn't actually bonk anyone.
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>>148278215
He lost that assistant during Negima.
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>>148277119
If UQH truly is the ending you mentioned, it could be that Eva lied to 3A girls and returned to the present with Touta and just gave them the shitty explanation about Nagi, since she would have confused them mightily otherwise.
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>>148278125
>Assistants can totally replace the mangaka himself

Keep being butthurt, nostalgiafags.
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>>148284920
>Because it doesn't contradict anything from what I can see. These retcons aren't changing anything really from the past series, just giving greater context (mostly in regards to Eva's behavior).
Exactly. It doesn't contradict the manga so it's on a retcon and there were only vague things about Eva's past in Negima. But not in the mind of retconfag because of his headcanon.
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>>148279021
Touta could appear after that, anon.
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>>148275547
but i love Touta
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>>148284830
Oh please, Negi and Eva had one of the best relationships in the series. He kept doing things to impress her and followed along the path she would have taken instead of the one his father did. She was pretty damn happy throughout most of that.

Not to mention she looks perpetually depressed in UQ Holder at times.

>it seemed more like Akamatsu was implying she was never actually happy in Negima.

How in the fuck did you get that out of this chapter? If anything it shows she was a whole lot happier than most of us thought from reading Negima.

A lot of us interpreted that beach scene of just her being a tease at the time. While now, with that touch on her lips, and the genuine smile she puts on before laughing, it's pretty fucking clear she got more out of that than we first though.

>>148285090
>>148284920
Yeah, the key point is that it doesn't violate any of the continuity at all. So retcon wise this is a pretty decent one (at the moment). We're just getting more information, rather than full on asspull type retcons.

This is probably to show off more motivations for future stuff, like Alberio said in terms of convincing him what side to take.
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>>148284482
It's a metaphor, only after letting go of Negi can Eva see what's important to her.
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>>148285090
>so it's on a retcon
not*
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>>148284482
Ignoring this >>148285347
retard, it was likely a deliberate decision on Sander's part. Since he was likely going to show Touta more, but Touta said that was enough.

So he probably decided to use that moment to slam the hammer on the anvil so to speak. Taking advantage of that moment with Eva to push some point we will probably see in the next chapter or something.

The reason Negi and the rest who are supposed to be there aren't noticing anything is possibly because this isn't real. It might be Cosmo Entelecheia sort of thing, or a life record of Sander's that you can interact with.
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>>148285330
>Not to mention she looks perpetually depressed in UQ Holder at times.

She looks like that because Negi's defeat constantly haunts her, with its root is his own incompetency. She won't be happy before settling things with him, meaning until his death.
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>>148285330
The point is not that she was happy or sad. She had happy moments, but was disgusted of life. Touta wants her to see life positively and accept that she can have a happy life.
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>>148274709
>mfw she has two right hands
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>>148284830
How the fuck does someone even come to this sort of conclusion? There are multiple ways you can interpret it, but yours makes zero sense. Let's post the pages.
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>>148285546
>She looks like that because Negi's defeat constantly haunts her, with its root is his own incompetency.

Or it could be her getting tired in her long life, especially after most of her friends from the school have died. You know, the reason they explicitly stated in the story.
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>>148285586
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>>148285582
Oh shit nigga, can't unsee
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>>148285586
Ignore him it's probably the same retarded Touta x Eva poster who is posting shit like this >>148285546

What's sad is that there is some support for that ship, but his reasoning is just flat out retarded.
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>search the thread
>no mention of upload outside of "kami"
>no idea what that is referring too

Seriously, fuck crunchydicks for going premium for new releases.
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I miss Kirie. But least Chisame has a panel in this chapter.
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>>148285631
Yeah I'm pretty sure this page in particular is saying "the only salvation she can find is death" rather than "wow Touta is the only man that can save her!".

Not to mention Negi already kind of all ready went through this with her in a way >>148275223

Granted that wasn't the real one, but the sentiment remains.
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>>148285748
Forgot the pic.
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>>148275547
>He KNOWS people don't like Touta or any of the UQ cast as much as Negima


implying this much.

Negima ended, this is the sequel. Stop self inserting as Negi you fucking autist. Deal with the fact that Touta will get the best waifu.
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>>148285694
It's on kissmanga, come on nigga, use google
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>>148279050
Ku Fei best girl!
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>>148284830
>>148285586
>>148285631
And after those two, we only need to go back to the very start. The fact you tried to imply that eva was never happy is retarded. Also, the word happiness can be interpreted in multiple ways. We are walking on a thin line here, it could mean overall happiness, but it can also mean something like love.

Someone who can read nip should post raw and post what the line means in a more literal manner.
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>>148285776
>I calculated
>She's not pregnant I calculated
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>>148285586
>Chapter with Eva and three of her boyfriend candidates
>Big bad jumps in and impales her
>Only Touta tries to save her while the other two are nowhere to be seen

How else should I interpret it?
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shit UQ holder getting anime? Is it gonna be SHAFT again?
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>>148271386
Guys I know this chapter is a matter of large debate (for what I think is retarded reasons). But I think there is something we can all agree on.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y04mod1yqaI&list=PLiZMDIBCdnKbl16Ynwf9xPHhTjkzBLC9g

This song should totally be Negi/Lifemakers theme song for us from now on. Seriously, the lyrics (and the fact their name is freaking Yaldabaoth), fit too bloody much.
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>>148286124
Certainly not
>To me, it seemed more like Akamatsu was implying she was never actually happy in Negima.
>Both Negi and Nagi only bring her sadness and misery
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Christ you fucking Negifags are making me want to avoid these threads. I don't even get why all of you are so fucking mad. Crying about retcons in a manga that has multiple timelines and time travel. I'd figured most people who enjoyed Negima where enjoying UQ Holder since it's basically a direct sequel at this point. I know, I have been. I'm just happy Akamatsu decided to continue this series instead of leaving it with the shitty fucking ending he made for Negima. I also have no issue with Touta he's basically a cookie cutter Shonen protagonist with no filter and a giant pair of balls. He's a hell of a lot more direct with his feelings than Negi ever was. I mean let's face it, who here actually read Negima for Negi...It's always been about the girls. As long as the protagonist isn't a whiny bitch I'm okay with it being whoever.

I just hope Akamatsu continues to release long chapters like 129 and that he make sure who ever does the anime doesn't pull a Xebec or Shaft with the adaptation.
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>>148286171
>Eva seems to be happy in the flashback
>Life Maker lynches her

It means her supposed happiness in Negima is merely an illusion that can easily be destroyed at anytime and only Touta can break this sadistic spell.
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>>148271386
WAIT WAIT WAIT

AKAMATSU IS BACK?!!

NEGIMA IS BAAAAACK?!!!!!
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>>148286269
What? I think you are reading in so deep you have lost yourself and missed EVERYTHING that this chapter and everything else in UQ and Negima has displayed. I think you are delusional. I'm not sure why I'm replying to you.

Eva has been happy and was happy. It wasn't a illusion. This chapter outright fucking boldly declares that Eva was happy. However it also states that she is a cursed immortal and that Nagi and Negi aren't enough or the ones to save her from that fate.
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>>148286124
Anon, she had happy times. But she hates life itself. Negi and Nagi have been part of her happy life, but only a part of it.
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>>148286169
>A river in a dry land,
>the laughters in a lost head,
>When the hope of new beginnings burn our feet, now we need it.
>A heartbeat for a demon,
>An oasis in a strange land,
>Remind us what we're here for: Creating new life,
>Creating rivers in the desert!

That song is too good for the boss it was used for.

>>148286269
What the does the lifemaker doing something in this have anything to do with her status in Negima? This is clearly not something that actually happened in that course of events (I highly doubt it is actual time travel), so your logic is plain head canon and retarded.

>>148286242
Is this a copypasta? If not then I'm guessing you weren't here for the actual Negima threads. People loved Negi as a protagonist. Sure he had his moments of hesitation, but those were usually really short, and he had actually fucking development. Seriously, he was considered a top notch protagonist especially compared to the others at the time.
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>>148286436
>However it also states that she is a cursed immortal and that Nagi and Negi aren't enough or the ones to save her from that fate.

I'm glad we finally agree on something.
Yeah, and even though this chapter stated Eva was happy, it quickly revealed the true face of that happiness when the Lifemaker stabbed her.
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>>148286332
wew lad.
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>>148286124
>Only Touta tries to save her while the other two are nowhere to be seen

God your tunnel vision is worse than fucking fujoshits. Of course neither of them can help because neither of them are fucking there! Touta is only in a position to "help" because that is the scenario the Lifemaker placed him in. Christ I'm fine with Toutafags, but you are not giving them a good look with your retardation right now anon.
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>>148286332
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>>148286589
>Yeah, and even though this chapter stated Eva was happy, it quickly revealed the true face of that happiness when the Lifemaker stabbed her.
And guess what? Neither is Touta! As pretty much every chapter in this bloody series has been pounding since the start.

Seriously, you are really up there in the autism scale aren't you anon? It must be nice to have those lenses of yours screwed on so tight.
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>>148286553
>I highly doubt it is actual time travel
You will have your answer next chapter, but keep it in mind that Ken has been using time travel from time to time in both Negima and UQH, with the most recent one is the Dana arc (which you Negifags hate so much).
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>>148286589
>Yeah, and even though this chapter stated Eva was happy, it quickly revealed the true face of that happiness when the Lifemaker stabbed her.
For fucks sake the Lifemaker stabbing her thing isn't a bloody metaphor for "Hur durh Touta is her only hope!"

It's just her being a bitch and hitting people at their highpoint. Like she always does.
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>>148286436
Didn't Negi became an immortal electric demon of some kind

Who's going to give him happiness?

Is the purpose of the UQ holder organization really just because Eva wanted some friends who don't die or become lifemakers?
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>>148286687
That's why it's called a metaphor. Ken is trying to imply something to us, but you are freed to ignore his hints if you want.
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You ever been so mad you regenerated your crush's ass?
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>>148286776
>You will have your answer next chapter, but keep it in mind that Ken has been using time travel from time to time in both Negima and UQH, with the most recent one is the Dana arc (which you Negifags hate so much).

Well because we aren't idiots, we have already noted multiple times that the people involved in this scene (Alberio, the Lifemaker, and Touta) don't have the power of manipulating time. In all likelihood it is just a variation of Alberio's time records.

Ever heard of Occam's Razor? You should look it up some time. Then you might not embarrass yourself so often.
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>>148286776
Time Travel by Cassiopeia was a really big deal in Negima and was quickly removed from the plot because having it opens up a whole can of worms. It's not a plot device you can get too casual about using since it is a vehicle of convenience, especially when compounded by immortality which is similarly a vehicle of convenience.
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>>148286793
>For fucks sake the Lifemaker stabbing her thing isn't a bloody metaphor for "Hur durh Touta is her only hope!"

The Lifemaker stabbing her alone maybe not, but Touta saving her from the Lifemaker is.
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>>148286889
Explain the significance of the severing of the thread attached to Touta's head in this non-time travel VR scenario.
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>>148286776
>Ken has been using time travel from time to time
I keked.
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>>148286889
Touta himself has that power, he literally forced his way to Eva's time before.
>>148286895
Guess what, things changes and time travel is a huge part of the plot in UQ Holder, nostalgiafag-kun.
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>>148286823
Metaphors are fucking deliberate, that is not a bloody metaphor, it is your own headcanon. If that's a metaphor you can apply that to any bloody series!

If that were the case, then I can also say that the spears thrust into Touta at that moment were a metaphor at the hopelessness at his endeavor for helping Eva. Same fucking retarded logic as yours.
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>>148286687
>>148286823
You two calm down. The whole point is that, Eva is cynical and those she loved never really tried to heal her. Yes they had a good relationship but the Springfields didn't love her back and had other things to do. Touta loves her and wants to heal her, that's his goal in life.
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>>148286951
Explain how any of the characters involved would have the capability of doing such a thing in this time travel scenerio?

If the Lifemaker was capable of time travel then why wouldn't they simply use that in all heir schemes? Why go through all the effort and failures each time? Why would Alberio have access to that, and not make use of it either in both series before?

Like this anon >>148286895
said time travel can potentially bring more holes than it is worth. The Dana arc made sense because it was dealing with events long before Negima. In this case it will bring contradictions to the continuity if they actually traveled to this point. Which another anon pointed out would be fucking stupid to do, and would be an actual Retcon.
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>>148287021
I'm not nostalgiafagging, I'm just pointing out that you can't equate Negima and UQH's use of time travel like you did in
>>148286776 before apparently frantically backpedaling with "well times change!"
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>>148287048
Actually, you can really say that should Touta not fight back and allow the Lifemaker to harm both him and Eva, but it's not the case, you see.

And
>I can't break his logic
>thus I resort to call it headcanon without any counterargument
>and give an incomplete counter example just to be sure
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>>148287111
Finally, a voice of reason.
>>
This time it's not time travel. It's some kind of illusion. If the LM was able to interfere with time she would be invincible.
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I thought Negima finished and was gone forever? I stopped reading when they went to the other world for tournament shit or whatever and it went full shounen.
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>>148287276
She has one grunt who can do that.
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>>148285526
>going to show Touta more
What more is there to show anyway? Shortly after Negi leaves for MM and doesn't interact with Eva for pretty much the rest of the manga.
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>>148275233
So Negima 2 is basically Akamatsu shoehorning Touta into Negima just so he can keep the protag, use the others characters for nostalgia and continue to make Touta/Eva fanfiction tier.

Fuck everything.
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>>148287196
Multiple people have broken apart your "logic" (the fact you even used that word to describe what you posted is disgusting).

>Actually, you can really say that should Touta not fight back and allow the Lifemaker to harm both him and Eva, but it's not the case, you see.

And what the fuck does that have anything to do with my counter example? Your stupid "metaphor" was that "these two people aren't here to help, this one person is, therefore that one person there is destined to save her while the others aren't!" which is fucking stupid because that can be, again, applied to any scenario.

My example was that, "Touta sees a legitimate happy moment from Eva, Eva gets bound by MotB, Touta gets speared by Sanders, shot of Touta reaching out to her bound by the spears, and Eva split in half. Which could be interpreted along with the MotB speech as a way of saying that no matter how much he tries, he won't be her salvation". The symbolism being that he can't even protect what's right in front of him, and there is no way he can change her current distaste with life.

I don't think this is actually the case, but it makes much more sense than your idiotic interpretation.
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>>148271386
>>62 pages
Of fucking nothing
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>>148287392
True dat
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>>148287346
Well since the stated goal before the flashbacks was to have Touta choose a side, I assume the focus was on Negi rather than Eva. I think Alberio was only showing a lot of Eva because he noted that was the thing Touta was most interested in.
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>>148287313
Mate the tournament arc was the second best arc after the school festival arc.
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>>148287111

This, everyone needs to calm the fuck down and just let this play out.
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>>148287392
A lot of reused scenes, which is pretty disappointing. I appreciate the new context (and seeing loli Eva is always great). But I hope next chapter actually has more meat to it.

>>148287440
Not that anon, but while I really dislike tournament arcs personally, I thought the Negima one was one of the best there was. That Rakan fight was hype as hell.
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>>148287440

Chao arc and Rakan arc where the best arcs imo.
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>>148287440
I don't remember how far I got into it before I got bored. I think that Jack Rakan(?) dude just died shortly before I dropped it. I just wanted more harem stuff I guess.
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>>148287495
Sorry, I'll give it a rest for now. That one anon's "logic" just annoyed me a lot, and he just kept posting it. So I felt the need to break it down before more people actually started going along with it.

But it seems like my words aren't actually getting read. So I might as well just ignore it now.

It was just a bit irritating to go to bed last night expecting it to be relatively comfy, and wake up to a shitfest because a toutafag decided to go fullretard.
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>>148287392
>>148287422
>>148287500
You need to do a recap when you change magazines.
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>>148287384
>"Touta sees a legitimate happy moment from Eva, Eva gets bound by MotB, Touta gets speared by Sanders, shot of Touta reaching out to her bound by the spears, and Eva split in half. Which could be interpreted along with the MotB speech as a way of saying that no matter how much he tries, he won't be her salvation"
Except right after that, he said "Fuck you" to the Lifemaker and proceeded to rescue Eva. The symbolism being that the unfair fate the Lifemaker trying to force upon Eva is meaningless in his eyes and he will deny it.
And all these happened while both Negi and Nagi were nowhere to bee seen.

See? I'm using you own logic to beat you. Who is the idiotic one now?
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>>148287583
So it's my fault that you can't bring yourself to see the author's hints? Ok, let's call it a day, I guess.
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>>148277245
>everything about Touta seems inorganic as hell for some reason.

Maybe because instead of trying to build an actual relationship he's just trying to shove Touta into every possible moment of Eva's story in and before Negima?
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>>148287639
>And all these happened while both Negi and Nagi were nowhere to bee seen.
The fact that you keep using this one line despite how many times that has been proven retarded shows it's pretty clearly you.
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>>148287639
>Who is the idiotic one now
Probably you anon, but that hasn't really changed since the start of your dumb conversation.

>>148287634
True, I kind of forgot about that.
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>>148287639
>The symbolism being that the unfair fate the Lifemaker trying to force upon Eva is meaningless in his eyes and he will deny it.
>And all these happened while both Negi and Nagi were nowhere to bee seen.
Please tell me this is just a really dedicated troll and not actually serious. I really hope we don't actually have people this dumb reading this series.
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>>148287706
>to see the author's hints?
Keep telling yourself that kid. Maybe one day a university will accept you based on your large portfolio of fanfiction.
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>>148287728
>>148287780
>>148287827
>>148287871
Are you one or many guys? Are there this many unreasonable anons who can't properly debate and just call other dumb or retarded to hide their weakness?
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>>148275782
You're not the only one.

I've always liked Eva and I greatly enjoy the focus she gets in UQ. Her relationship with Touta is cute. And no, this recent flashback chapter does not ruin anything she built up with Negi earlier, if anything it adds to it.

Honestly I'm also simply glad that we get a continuation to Negima with UQ. I prefer this a lot more than if the Negima universe would have died out together with its ending.
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>>148287706
>So it's my fault that you can't bring yourself to see the author's hints? Ok, let's call it a day, I guess.

Always fun seeing people see things that aren't there. I'm sure tumblr would love to have you as part of their community anon.

>>148287634
I don't know anon, if it was for that reason then wouldn't a recap of the events of UQ Holder make more sense? I mean I think what you say makes a lot of sense (more so for people who only read UQ Holder and never read Negima), but it still seems a bit weird to me.
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>>148275782

Nah man you aren't the only one. There's like 2 shitposters sperging out about their ship and everyone else that is just enjoying the ride. Just ignore the retards.
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>>148287930
Seriously, relying on the samefag accusation? You're really doing yourself no favours here.
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>>148288114
>Triggers
>Because one of Negi's haremettes kisses some guy

Ha, that's pretty funny.

You do realize that Eva was the one in love with Negi right? he only ever cared about her like he did everyone else.
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Wait, so let me see if I've got this right.

You have Negima.
Then you have UQ Holder, which is an another-timeline sequel to Negima.
Then you have (Not!)UQHolder: Negima 2, which is an another timeline prequel to Negima with the main character from the another-timeline sequel to Negima shoved in there.

And this is all just to give Evangeline a happy ending, not in any way affecting the "real" Eva in Negima?

What're doing Ken?
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>>148288114
>that filename
>ignores the page that came a few pages right before it
Toutafags really are in their own world sometimes.
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>>148275482
RIP Latin-kun
>>
What's happening now? I gave up on the original manga somewhere in the magic world arc, all I really want was for it to retcon all the way back to before rakkan and just be a SoL with harem elements.
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>>148288377
>>148288510


Hook line and sinker.
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>>148288970
Wait Rakan appeared in the magic world arc. I'd really rather the whole magic world arc just have never happened.
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>>148288970
Negima ended 50 chapter early because Ken was afraid he was going to have the rights of the series taken from him.
Then you have UQ Holder, which is a sequel set in an alternate timeline about 70 years after Negima.
But now UQ Holder has the subtitle Magister Negima 2, and the protag from UQ Holder has time traveled to or is in an illusion of Negima.
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>>148288970
Please go and never return, the SoL harem initial part wasn't that good at all.
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>>148271386
Wheres medicine girl's scar on her back?
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>>148289094
The timeline theory has never been confirmed.
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>>148289416
Akira's leg is covering it?
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>>148289497
Its should still stick out a bit
Though I'm honestly impressed with myself I remembered her name
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>>148273014
It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit.
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>>148289737
Given the perspective I'm not sure if it really should stick out a bit or not.
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Are they still on planet mars?
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>>148290884
Nah they're at the elevator on earth's side.
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Is this even worth the time?
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>>148291578
You're on 4chan, your time is worth nothing
>>
>flashback without Kotarou

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>148291696
?
He was there
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>>148291651
kek
>>
ah negima miss this shit man, but how does this move uq holder plot along?
>>
Reminder that Touta represents a bunch of the lifemaker's shit coming together.

The royal blood of Ostia found in Negi and Asuna and Touta all comes from the Lifemaker as they are her descendants.

The vampirism that Touta has came from Eva and was created by the Lifemaker experimenting on Eva.

Magia Erebea is an expression of the Lifemaker's magic, refined by Eva's vampiric body and perfected by Negi, then copied into Touta's very blood due to Negi's transformation.
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>>148273257
So next chapter when? I just want to see more Yue-Nodoka in current time.
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>>148292473
They wanted to convince Touta that their way was the only method to make Eva happy. They failed.
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>>148292816
i honestly don't mind. i just want ken go all in write a great script for the character and make uq holder feel alive like the character have a purpose or at least grab the reader attention.
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>>148292794
1 Month from now.
>>
Ku won the bowl! Ken didn't show such a interaction with Negi for naught. The winner had to be someone who he saw who had a meaningful interaction with him in this flashback.
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>>148271386
What i am in for ?
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>>148294798
2-3 volumes of harem comedy, then a slow build up into one of the best battle shounens around. Also loads of pointless nudity and romance arcs
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>>148295107
sounds good to me
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>>148274096
Xebec version - yes, but be prepared to be disappointed.

SHAFT version - FUCK NO! Stay clear of that shit for life.
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>>148295107
>pointless
Fun things are fun, faggot
>>
So when does Negi officially marry Nodoka?
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>>148295256
He is right. Lot of pointless things.
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>>148295352
Never. Remember the end of Negima flat out confirmed that Nodoka and Yue's loves were unfulfilled.
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>>148295256
Fun things are fun, and I enjoyed it too, but that doesn't stop the harem hyjinx and gratuitous nudity from being, in the end, pointless.
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>>148295599
>Nodoka and Yue's loves were unfulfilled.

I'm sure they frequently comforted one another on the weekends though.
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>>148297951
It did almost seem to imply that.
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>>148284920
>>148285090
>>148285330

>Why are people using this word like it is an inherently bad thing?
Because retcons are always a bad thing and in this case its even worse because you're forcing something that was never fucking there to begin with thus devaluing the scene in context.

>MUH SHIPS

Fucking kill yourselves. Seriously because that's the only reason you're defending this crap.
>>
>>148297951
Nodoka was clearly bi. She imagined a threesome with her, Yue and Negi.
>>
>>148287500
>but while I really dislike tournament arcs personally, I thought the Negima one was one of the best there was.
I'm so happy only Negimafags believe this. You never see that piece of shit ranked among the best tournament arcs outside Negima threads.
>>
>>148271386
That was a nice thing
>>
As someone who really enjoys UQ I love how much butthurt there is that one girl from a fucking harem manga is leaving the harem.
>>
>>148271386
I see I came in late for the party!
>>
Concluding this thread with logic from the first one, bunch of retards.

>Everything in UQ Holder with Touta and the untold past is retcon
>It's not a part of true Negima canon
>I sure hope we see proper Negi x Eva pairing, this is Negima future after all

Holy shit /a/


retcon implies that an established fact was changed or had extra information stacked into it. Nothing has changed or had something stacked into it. Information has only been placed long before or after events and the information also compliments previous known information and makes the understanding of them better, filling in the gaps.

The new information fits so well you could assume it was planned when he was doing negima. We just simply know that isn't the case.

>>148298147 like someone said it's an illusion, get over it. >>148295599 is right, that sums up the ending and why UQ threads are filled up with cancerous shipping, Negi never made a choice and it still reflects in this time, but leading on.

It was said before and reminded thanks to this anon >>148288510 Eva has made a choice and she still loves Negi.

Unfortunately you are dealing with an MC that is more autistic than anyone who has posted in this thread, not having him come out as Eva's hero is impossible.

In the end it's about Yukihime's happinese, and both Nagi and Negi are ultimate jobbers at it.
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>>148304686
fuck, well 'happiness'.
>>148302813
get fucked namefag
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Daily reminder, Fate won the Negibowl. He is truly best boy.
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What happens if MotB dies in a tragic boating accident instead of being killed by someone?
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>>148282493
Every one of them
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>>148282888
Girls and boys are just curious with human anatomy at that age. Don't judge anon, we've all been there
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>>148285183
Eva, pls
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>>148286724
Why is somebody who broke a tea cup so smug about it?
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>>148273257
Well Lifemaker route here we go.

>>148273257
She has always been female,
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>>148306437
Cause loli can get away with murder.
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>>148306437
Because she's a fatefag.
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So Alberio, Rakan, Yue and Honoka aren't illusions created by Negi?
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>>148289416
>blow away clothes and underwear
>pony tails and pig tails still holding on for some magical pervy reason
Seriously, they'd look sexier with their ruffled hair down
>>
>>148274568
Is Touta part of the tea faction or the coffee faction?
>>
>>148306467
Touta punches her magic evil desires and falls in love with him. This is how it works right?
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>>148306564
They're magic slaves under MOTB

>>148306704
Cola faction
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>>148306704
Neither, that's why Fate is so disappointed in him.
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>>148306919
Dad?
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>>148306981
It's ok Touta, it's not like anyone ever expected you to amount to anything anyways.
>>
>>148285748
This basically, the Lifemaker was saying that killing Eva is the only way to make her happy. To end her etenity, which goes against Touta's talk about how immortality is awesome and should be treasured.
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>>148306705
No, they will get locked into an eternal battle and after they wear down each other, they will come to understand and try to help each other out. That's when Touta will become everyone's enemy when he sides with the Lifemaker to protect her happiness.
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>>148307390
Which is stupid because after awhile you'll have seen everything and become bored and alone, unless you find someone else immortal. Find someone else immortal and youve got a partner for the rest of forever.
>>
>>148273122

We Mechon now
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>>148307511
>That's when Touta will become everyone's enemy when he sides with the Lifemaker to protect her happiness.
Jokes aside, I think that isn't actually all that unlikely. Ignoring her crazy face moment, the Lifemaker hasn't really been a very hostile antagonist, scenes with Fate and such seemed to imply she was pretty chill most of the time. Not to mention she always congratulated the protags when they defeated her.

We know nothing about her motivations, the only thing is that everybody oppossed her plan (which was pretty merciful compared to most villain plots).

The fact that the likes of Al and Rakan on her side now (if they are not illusions or some shit), leads me to believe there might be more to the situation.

>>148307842
Which is probably why Eva wasn't all that happy about the Magia Erebea thing turning Negi immortal. Well at least at first, since I guess from her point of view immortality is a curse rather than something to celebrate. But like this page >>148285776
shows, it's not like it was a big deal to other people.

I guess as long as you never find your partner boring, then it should be fine.
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>>148307842
It's why Touta will win the Lifemakerbowl and make her happy. It's the only way to save the world!

>>148308157
>Jokes aside, I think that isn't actually all that unlikely.
I could see Ken going that route to suvert the trend of having to beat the Final boss to save the world. Touta will surpass Negi not by punching harder or being smarter, but by reaching out to the person who probably needs it the most.
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You know what the Lifemaker needs? Heavy petting
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>>148285776
>>148308157
Oddly relevant considering the recent chapters.
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>>148308347

Pantsu sneeze combo would terminate the missus.
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>>148308954
Can Touta even sneeze strip?
>>
>Kotarou was actually in the flashback

Holy shit, I'm surprised he actually remembered he existed.
>>
>>148309005

Development arc!
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>>148309108
I hope he comes back to help the team out in UQ.
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>>148286822
>>Is the purpose of the UQ holder organization really just because Eva wanted some friends who don't die or become lifemakers?
Yes.
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>>148310003
Only his cute wolf Daughteru who will be a harem member
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>>148310210
Nah, we need him to beat the shit out of Rakan and them and get them to escape.
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>>148295184
I liked the SHAFT anime. Shit was just as cute as it was retarded.
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