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Gawain literally in Nero's faction. Gawainfag btfo.

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Gawain literally in Nero's faction. Gawainfag btfo.
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The best!
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>>148187590
That is bullshit. This team is so fucking stacked it's not even fair.
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CCC ended perfectly and doesn't have to have a sequel and be milked like this. Now I can only see a game of nothing but servants fanwanking and brushing off what made CCC so good especially the noble sacrifices by Hakuno, Hakuno's allies and BB.
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>>148189438
That's why they only have 4 servants. But you're right. Even the Tamamo faction probably wouldn't win.

Karna could hold off Gilgamesh for awhile and Medusa would BTFO Iskander (low magic defense, he'd be petrified in no time).

But then you still have Jeanne and Atilla. I just don't see any way for the rest of Tamamo's team to have a good shot at taking those two down. Maybe one Medusa rejoined them, but likely by that point Gilgamesh would have finished off Karna and it would be game over.

Nero's team stands more of a chance.

EMIYA could theoretically take down Gilgamesh and Gawain under the sun could take down Jeanne. Cu Chulain could theoretically one shot kill Atilla or at least seriously damage her while Li Shen finished her off.

Meanwhile Iskander with Ionian Heteroi would probably defeat Nero. Nero's Aestus Domus Aurea is amazing in one v one but doesn't seem useful when she's facing off against ten thousand heroic spirits.

Really that fight would come down to EMIYA vs Gilgamesh. Whoever won that fight would ensure that their team won the match.

I would say 9 out of 10 times Atilla's team would beat Nero's team, but 1 out of 10 times they would lose. Meanwhile, 10 out of 10 times Atilla's team would beat Tamamo's team.

Tamamo vs Nero's teams would be more interesting and determining a winner would be a lot closer.
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>>148189438
She's the least stacked out of the three though.
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>>148187590
I'm going to be bummed if there's no equivalent of the Gil and Iskander drinking scene but with shittalking Jeanne instead of Saber.
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>>148187428
Nero faction is going to win. They're the only group bringing fists to a sword fight.
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>>148189864
except she brought Cu to any fight so she's automatically going to start a man down.
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>>148189938
That's fine. Li Shuwen can toe to toe Scathach anyway so being down a Cu is just a formality.
Everyone knows using his sick version of Presence Conceal he's just going to one-punch every servant while Nero attention whores herself to keep them distracted.
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>>148189753
The same could be said to the original VN + Ataraxia though. They already wrapped up every possible plot point by the end of Ataraxia. There really is nothing more to tell about.

That's why we got these AU bullshits.
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>>148189753
>CCC ended perfectly and doesn't have to have a sequel and be milked like this.

The Fate series has spiraled out of control as soon as we left F/SN, H/A, and F/Z.

FGO has accelerated this to the speed of light.
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>>148187590
>Attila, Jeanne and Gilgamesh on the exact same team
Thats bullshit, what the actual fuck are these other clowns gonna do about that, only one who stands half a chance is Tamamo's group if Tamamo can go full goddess and Karna is on that team as well.
eh they also have Medusa rider and probably shits on everyone there but Attila and Gil who would smash her like a fly with her mystic eyes of turn shit to stone.
The Problem with Nero's team is all of them would get shitsmashed by Attila herself and her bullshit space sword, neither could they deal with a properly pissed off Gil, as Gawain would inevitably cause to happen when he goes lolinvincible for half a day, perhaps causing him to actually use EA out of sheer irritation the cockroach won't actually die no matter how many swords you throw in it.
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>>148187590
That team is so fucking broken, they might as well add Seibah. Watch some asspulls make them lose.
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>>148187428
Lancer's torso is lewd as fuck, no homo. Man, I'd buy Sensei Lancer DLC.
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>>148190254
Back then HGW is just one of the many rituals to reach Akasha. Now it's the core of Nasuverse.
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>>148187590
>team of jobbers

Poor Attila,at least she is pretty strong herself
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>>148190421
>Jobbermesh
>Jobberkander
>Atila and Jeanne
>broken

heh
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>>148190798
This is Extra Gil we're talking about. He never jobs.
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>>148187561
Based Lu Bu
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>>148187590
>atilla
where is atilla?
I only see a cute girl?
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>>148190854
Liz
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Apparently the game got delayed to 2017 in NA.
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>>148190976
That's a cliched chapter where you have to work with your former rival to bring down your berserk friend.
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>>148190976
Elizabeth got her shit done at the end even at the cost of her own life.
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>>148187428
Tron Cu design is growing on me.
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>>148190989
Hopefully that just means Feb. or something.
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>>148192981
Hopefully not February, there is already tons of shit coming out that month.
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Isn't Arturia supposed to be a wildcard in this game? I imagine you either recruit her to your faction or unlock a route where you and her solo the entire war
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> Another non-canon crossover
> Still no chance for Tsukhime characters
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>>148193001
Like what? I only know persona 5
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>>148187428
>>148187561
>>148187590
Alright, I'll bite: What am I looking at here? New Fate anime?
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>>148193269
P5, Nioh and I think Nier
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>>148193321
Fate/Extella, a new game in the Fate/Extra canon. Fate/Extra is getting an anime from Shaft next year.
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>>148193490
gravity rush 2 and the sony game that has you fight machines too
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Nero's team looks the weakest on papers but their team is literally counters and bullshit.

Gawain and Cu(Extra version) are the bullshits.
Emiya is the counter.
Li Shuwen is either beyond broken or decent tier. He's the wildcard.
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>>148193515
Is the anime early next year?
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>>148193515
>spoonfeeding newfags
There is no way to miss F/E and Extella announces. Even in /v/ shithole were big amount of threads. And all information he can find in google. STOOP
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>>148187428
>tfw Nero's team is full of pretty boys who most likely Nero's gonna fuck them all

>tfw Nero will lay her hands on that Christian Saint
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>>148187590
>JANNU

This team will win.

Because JANNU
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>>148187428
>Li Shuwen instead of Robin
Shame, this could have been team bantz
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>>148194655
>Robin is supposed to be OP if the circumstances are right
>was a tutorial boss
The same shit happened with Drake
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>>148194318
Nero and Gawain hate each others, same with Archer and Gawain, and Cu and Emiya doesn't like each other neither. This team is great.
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>>148194280
I don't get it, so we aren't supposed to want other people to like the series and get interested? What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>148194318
What? No it's more like they're all bros or bickering. Nero only fucks her husbando.
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>>148194655
Li is the tsukkomi of the team.
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>>148194655
>Robin
>In a musou game
He's a debuff-type character.
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>Attila faction has Iskander
>Tomato has Liz
Hard decision
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>>148196127
Liz is a cute!
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I wish she was real.
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>>148196453
Same. I'm probably going to kill myself from it. Someday. Fuck everything
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>>148187590
Attila is the biggest slut of them all, riding horses all day everyday.
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>>148189938
f-fuck you
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>>148189938
Why is Cu treated as a joke while Scathach got wanked to hell
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>>148198709
he's a dog
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>>148198709
She has boobies in the fate franchise, what do you think
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>>148199314
The sad thing is that the male characters in the Fate franchise are all pretty high tier.
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>>148187561
>Medusa, Tamamo, Liz

Ah, team muh dick
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Who team /Roma/ here?
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>>148187428
>Whore of Babylon is such a shitty slut that they needed to put purest boy Gawain in team to balance out
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>>148201261
Roma is amor
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>>148201261
I love my emperor!

>>148201327
Gawain a pedo.
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>>148194947
No, spoonfeeding newfags is not okay.
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Alright fags, who do you join?

Team Bantz&Asspulls

Team Magic&Waifus

Team Jobbers&Kangz
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>>148201327
>Gawain is so shit he isn't even her second in comand
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>>148202173
Waifu.
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>>148202173
Team WE
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>>148202271
>second in command
>implying Nero's STD filled fucktoy is a good thing
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>>148202173
Casko definitly, she has Karna and Medusa.
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>>148201552
Your Emperor is shit. Chaos > Emperor
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>>148202351
Gawain please. Nero is clean. You don't get STDs unless you fuck dirty people. Nero has standards.
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Who do you want/expect for DLC?
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>>148202461
Shiki and Arc. It's more want than expect though.
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>>148202351
Gawain, stop.
Li has better crowd control and AoE than you.
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>>148187428
Is there anyone a serious EMIYA can't beat? He should have been the loner instead of Saber.
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>>148203073
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But where is Dantes
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>>148187428
Gangbang team

>>148187561
Tittymonsters team

>>148187590
Overpowered as fuck team.
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>>148187428
>Nero gets all the best bros
>>148187561
>Tamamo gets two shit characters, plus Karna and Medusa
>>148187590
>Altera gets Gil, Shitskandr, and Jeannu

Factions:
Nero > Altera >> Tamamo
Girls themselves:
Nero = Tamamo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Altera
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>>148187561
>Medusa, Tamamo, Liz

>Karna, Lu Bu

Hot damn.
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Altera may literally be the worst designed character in the Nasuverse, which is fucking impressive considering the existence of half the cast of Grand Order.
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Nero and Li Shuwen, I'm in
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I really hope EMIYA gets to fuck over Iskandr by deploying UBW inside of IH and just lashing the steel rain down on him.

I've wanted to see two Reality Marble users face off ever since Extra both confirmed the second one overwrites the first and had EMIYA not have it available when fighting Nursery Rhyme.
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>>148202461
>Expected
Scathach
Shuten
Drake
Vlad
Robin

>Wanted
Heracles
Dantes
Jeanne Alter
Proto-Gil
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>>148203785
No GO originals Nasu says.
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>>148203660
One Reality Marble overwrites the other.
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>>148203913
Scathach and Shuten are both too populer for them to pass on easy money.
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I was really looking forward to playing Nero's game next month but now I have to wait till January.
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>>148202461
I want George
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>>148204023
That's why they're for GO.
You put them in Extella, people won't want to try to get them in GO's scummy ass gacha.

I spent almost 200 trying to get bride, both times. it's fucking evil. In Extella you have a guarantee then to get your waifu from the playstore,and that's bad for business.
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>>148204125
Whales feel obligated to have them in every possible support, buying a DLC won't stop them from whaling in F/GO
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>>148204171
It's not about whales it's about waifufags. What are you some casual who isn't obsessed with a character for life until you die?
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>>148204239
I am a dirty f2p peasant.
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>>148204306
That isn't what I'm talking about. or are you a flavor of the month kind of a slutty fag?
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>>148204354
Nah man, I like Casko since way back when I played Extra.
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>>148204125
I don't know how they could pass on putting Edison in, Grand Order or not.
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>>148193234
Extra is its own continuity in the near future.
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>>148204410
>like
So....?
Is that all?

>>148204432
What does he have to do with Extella that would make him so special?
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>>148204490
Holy shit anon you sound like a faggot
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>>148204595
For what?
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>>148204490
Sorry if I don't hit your standards of waifufag.
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>>148204490
They do need to use more modern heroes. They've milked the age of myth dry. I'm surprised we haven't seen more of the Epic cycle heroes like Hector, Odysseus, and Diomedes.
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>>148204779
Well liking a character isn't loving them. How can you say you would marry someone when you don't even love them, but only like them?
They don't aim this at people who just want a favorite. They aim the gacha at people absolutely obsessed.

That's why they won't add them from GO, at least not any time soon. The waifufags who play GO spend way more than my measly 400 dollars on two occasions for Nero Bride.

>>148204885
But what would Edison have to do with Extella, or Extras story? Where would you fit him in? How would you fit him in? Who the hell's team would he go on? There is no place for him in this.
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>>148204988
Jesus christ anon
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>>148203660
If you're RM gets overwritten by another one, what's stopping you from recasting it? Mana constraints?
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>>148205032
What? I don't get it. What's the problem?
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>>148187590
>attila
>a cute skinny girl

you gotta be fucking with me, this isnt funny anymore.
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>>148204885
The more modern ones they've come up with in GO are pretty goofy, so it might be tough to come up with enough serious characters to balance it out.

>>148205032
Genderbent historical figures are serious business, my friend.
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>>148205169
We need HGW with ONLY genderbent characters
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>>148204885
Well we already have Hector, but man I want to see Odysseus in this shit.
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>>148204885
Simo Häyhä as Archer/Assassin when?
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>>148205264
Good idea. Speaking of which, did they ever do a character originally male (Besides maybe Jack the Stripper) that was made female, or is Astolfo or Chevalier d'Eon the closest they got?
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>>148205406
The point is to add more cute girls to history anon. Why would you make women into men when you can just make them younger?
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>>148205543
Well, I agree personally but I also think the crazier it gets the more interesting Fate is.
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>>148204885
Rasputin remains the most inexplicable omission to me.
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>>148194655
That would have been fantastic. Maybe Shakespeare or Andersen too if they weren't circumstancial as fuck
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>>148205744
He seems like someone that could be used as someone important down the road, assuming that Fate will go on forever. I'd hate to see him as a throwaway character like Lu Bu.
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>>148205264
I think Fate strikes a good balance with the genderbends. If they just make everyone a cute girl, a la Koihime Music or Eiyuu Senki, I feel something is lost.
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>>148202461
Prisma Shirou or Saber Alter.
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>>148206026
>Music
Musou
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>>148206026
I appreciate when TYPE-MOON justifies the genderbending. Arturia and Drake make some sense and are kinda neat but the rest are just bullshit
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>>148204125
Why is Bride a separate entry in GO? It's just an alternate costume for Nero.

Oh wait, don't tell me there's going to be a *5 Emiya with his kamen rider armor too.
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>>148206220
>Why is Bride a separate entry in GO? It's just an alternate costume for Nero.
Nasu wanted to make more money, so he made some retarded blog about how bride is suddenly a separate Nero, and oh so much more of a waifu than Nero. Yet there is no real difference, they just have her talk more lovey dovey like.

I still really wanted her though. I love Nero.
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>>148204885
>I'm surprised we haven't seen more of the Epic cycle heroes like Hector, Odysseus, and Diomedes.

Because Nasu is a hack.
They picked people totally unrelated to anything even remotely connected to heroism like Edison or Andersen but to this day there's no:

Cesare Borgia or any Borgia family member
Giuseppe Garibaldi which is literally the last modern figure of the romantic hero
General Custer
Faust
El Cid
Roland
Finn
Sinbad
John Dee
Avraham Abulafia
Count of Cagliostro
Arsene Lupin
Miyamoto Memesashi
Abe no Seimei
Guan Yu
Bak Mei/Pai Mei
Clorinda
Hammurabi
Montezuma

And a lot of other people, it's just that Nasu is a fucking hack and just now discovered that Rome fucking existed.
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>>148187428
>>148187561
meh

>>148187590
Now we're talking. Not only they feel like a proper team but it's also the most interesting team lore-wise. I hope Nasu won't fuck up.
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>>148204885
There is still a lor of shit to be used, as you said the Odyssey, Charlemagne cycle, the Aeneid even if it seems people don't give ashit about it and it would be god tier the Divina Commedia
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>>148206377
Andersen ain't that bad. His NP and nasuverse lore doesn't totally break your suspension of disbelief unlike the GO originals.

>Tesla got thunder from Zeus
What the fuck
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>>148206377
I agree but we already have some of them confirmed (or already out like Finn) to appear later or referenced by the ones that we already have, so it's just a matter of time.
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>>148206413
Don't worry friend, he definitely will.
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>>148206210
None of the genderbends make any sense, they're just there for fanservice.
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>>148205341
so what about hitler as a Ruler ?
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>>148207329
And because women are shit warriors and irrelevant to history whether in fiction or not. Only a few of them are.
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>>148207480
They have plenty of options before they'd need to go there
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Tamamo!
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>>148206377
>Garibaldi and Borgia
are you an Italy bro?
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How many continuities are there now?

FZ > FSN > A bunch of side-material stuff

Extra > CCC > Extella

Strange Fake

Apocrypha

Grand Order

What else?
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>>148207986
FZ -> F/SN -> F/HA
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Why can't I have them both?
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>>148207778
Nero!
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>>148207778
>>148208408
Im glad TypeMoon are slowly phasing out Ufotable. SHAFT are a much better fit for the series.
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>>148208134
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>>148206586
>>Tesla got thunder from Zeus
>What the fuck
Yeah that's what you would think if you didn't actually read it and just skimmed to find things to dislike.
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>>148208408
>those stick arms and legs
I know Nero isn't exactly the most muscular girl alive but god damn.
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>>148208476
>slowly phasing out Ufotable
That's a silly statement.
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>>148209033
>isn't exactly the most muscular girl
What are you talking about? She knocked out a lion as a human.

Also it's just the artstyle, why does everything have to be so realistic with so many anons? Especially considering it's anime. Stylizing is a thing.

>>148208476
ufo is good though. Shaft isn't a very good fit honestly I think. Ufotable capture the magic feeling and all really well. Shaft is more like colorful and pretentious and thinks it's deep. The animation from shaft and the colors are good for Extra though i think, and the lewdness for the girls, but it always felt really cheap to me how fanservicey Shaft gets. Never cared for their quotes in the background either.
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>>148209266
Shaft's sometimes surreal artistic tendencies are a good match for the artificial and technological aspects of Extra's setting.
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>>148209266
>ufo is good though
Ufo is good with more visual-focused works like Fate Zero or KNK, but the rest of fate is VERY wordy. And Ufo is really having a hard time with wordy or portraying wordy content. This is why 99% of Shirou's monologues were cut in UBW, and talky scenes were boringly directed close ups of heads talking.

Shaft is a perfect fit for Fate/Extra. Extra is extremely surreal experience with lots of text and thats both things that Shaft does the best.
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>>148209488
I agree. That's pretty much it though. besides some of the lewd like I said. Would fit the manga well to use the Rani and Rin mana transfer from the manga and all of Nero's bathing scenes too.

>>148209558
I don't think Shaft would be too good for anything else from TM though. Even this is gonna probably be pretty eh, to me at quite a few intervals I'm sure. Not really much else for it though. I just hate the dumb pretentious shit they shove in, and the wall words. I think hey edited scenes in something from it's source material too to make it more lewd and shit to get BD sales. Or so I've heard, but I don't really watch much from Shaft so I wouldn't know too much. I just don't care for those things. Or maybe it's mostly that Bakewhatever series I never cared for. Shaft lost my interest completely years ago. Last thing I sort of enjoyed was SZS and Madoka was okay.
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>>148206586
>>Tesla got thunder from Zeus
>What the fuck

Why are you such a retard anon ?
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>>148206377
>Faust
To be fair, Mephisto is a Servant.
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>>148207986
Isn't tsukihime in the same continuity as FSN? KnK is a different continuity than tsukihime. Also, let's not forget the most important one: Carnival Phantasm.
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>>148189768
but you know that nero faction will win just like Shirou on UBW.
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>>148211962
Tamamo is on the same level as Nero anon, neither of them is more canon that the other
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>>148203913
>>148203913
>No GO originals Nasu says.
A T T I L A
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>>148212456
She's not GO material original.
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>>148211804
With information from the most recent Melty Blood manga it was revealed that in worlds where Heroic Spirit summoning is possible the 27 DAA organization doesn't exist, although the individuals in it do(as shown in SF or HA). By the way the manga's storyline doesn't really have to do with any of this, it's a mini dictionary that came with volume 1.

The relevant part is under 死徒 at 「英雄召喚を可能とする世界において、死徒の頂点と言われる二十七祖は存在しない。」.
>>148212456
This was supposed to be her debut.
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>>148211804
Correct, and by extension so is Kagetsu Tohya
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>>148212812
>This was supposed to be her debut.
you really think that?

hahhaha came on anon.
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>>148212812
So are the dead apostle individuals that re in the other timelines still supposed to be vampires, or is that to-be-determined in case they are actualy used in some kind of Fate work?
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>>148212897
GO's story actually limits what she can do power wise though in lore.
Extella, not so much. Mother harlot, who is goign to be in GO later, was supposed to be more of a power for Nero in CCC with her Bride outfit, but Nasu decided that was too powerful. he wanted the beast to be one of Nero's NPs in it. Now we're getting either a corrupted Nero, liek Saber Alter, or serpahic monstrosity, or a fake Nero like Jeanne Alter from the Grail Gilles used.
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>>148212812
Interesting. Can't read moon, but that sounds like a retcon. An unnecessary one at that since nothing the DAA does conflicts with Heroic Spirits. Only Dust of Osiris was interested on JUST the whole world
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>>148213110
Oh, they're going to actually do Rider Nero? Nice.
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>>148213171
Yeah, probably next part of the story.
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>>148213033
I'm not too sure myself. For example I just assume that Zelretch is the same guy every time we see him considering he can just travel between worlds. And I just assume that there isn't a new Zelretch for all the new world because then it becomes too confusing.
>>148213163
It seems like something Nasu wants to push though. I read this on BL but apparently there's a part in Labyrinths where a mythological vampire says that other vampires are not as strong as him because of the "humanity"(人理) is very strong, this is a made-up TM word, what FGO calls humanity. Which is also what allows HS summoning, it seems to be inversely related. Not only that but Gilgamesh in Strange Fake mentions that he has no idea what vampires are, that might be or might not be significant.

A guy on BL did point out that it could be as simple as "because the vampires are not as powerful they never broke off from the True Ancestors and therefor no DAA".
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>>148205406
Is this me having reading comprehension problem or do you forget who Stay Night Saber is?
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>>148214851
I guess he means people that actually existed.
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#TeamNero
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>>148187590
Wow balance please
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>>148205040
>If you're RM gets overwritten by another one, what's stopping you from recasting it? Mana constraints?
Poetry constraints.
How lame would it be to have to recite the same poem twice in a battle?
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>>148187428
Team Harem
>>148187561
Team Already Lost Before The Battle Started
>>148187590
Team Broken Jobbers
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It's like Nero's team was carefully put together to counter Gil. Suspicious...
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Does Lancer Luck effect Lancer's teammates?
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>>148215408
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>>148205040
The original RM still remains outside of the second cast one, if the mechanics of how the Moon Cell interacts with UBW are correct. It's essentially a pocket dimension within another pocket dimension.

So you'd probably have to cancel your one and then re-deploy it again, which would take a while - leaving you without it in the meantime.
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>>148205169
If it makes you feel any better it's been suggested in GO that she may not actually be the proper Attila, and is instead someone else who fulfilled his role in an alternate universe.

So the male Attila likely still exists as well.
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>>148215485
If the team is very Lancer-reliant, then his low luck could compromise them all.
Then again, the team also has EMIYA, who has apparently found the secret of overcoming E rank luck syndrome. Maybe he will be willing to share.
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>>148215696
EMIYA's method is pretty much just forcing a pyrrhic victory instead of suffering a total defeat. He's still the only servant in CCC who still has you die in his ending, and he's still getting dicked about in pretty much every timeline he shows up in - he just manages to usually save more people than he fails to protect.
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>>148215793
>EMIYA's method is pretty much just forcing a pyrrhic victory
Funny, I could have sworn in UBW he got team Rin a complete victory.
He always has to fight monstrous enemies, and the battle conditions are never in his favor. The World is permanently fucking with him, and won't even let him use his NP freely. So given some of the impossible odds he has pulled through I'd say he made that E rank luck his bitch.
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>>148215793
>He's still the only servant in CCC who still has you die in his ending
Conversely he's also the servant who's happiest in the true ending.
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>>148187428
The fuck? This is literally the most dysfunctional team I've ever seen.
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>>148216664
Gawain is the only real problem
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>>148212812
>>148213956
>>148213033
Didn't Richard fight one of them alongside Saladin and the Hassan of the time in Strange Fake? It sounds contradictory.
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>>148215280
>Team Already Lost Before The Battle Started

Why ? Karna and Lu Bu are crazy strong, Medusa isn't bad either.
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>>148217113
Like I said it's the organization that doesn't exist. The individuals still do.
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>>148217155
>having Lu Bu on your team
He's better be a bahsakah or you'll get betrayed harder than EMIYA going heel.
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>>148217176
So they are just dicking around in their own?

What about the Church then? Do they still give a shit about them or they don't give a fuck now that they are just mooks?
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>>148217261
The Church hunts Dead Apostles regardless. I guess these ones would be "dead apostles of significance".
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>>148217250
He is.
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Even if they are the underdogs, my money is on Nero's faction. Best Saber clone + EMIYA = popularity through the roof.
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>>148217261
>So they are just dicking around in their own?
Basically.
Nrvnqsr Chaos even ran wild through the First Crusade eating crusaders and saracens left and right.
The Aylesbury Valesti ritual was attempted in Fate/EXTRA but apparently it went catastrophically wrong, perhaps because Ortenrosse didn't have adequate financial support without Van-Fem. (This is pure conjecture on my part)
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>>148217450
The winner is whoever you play as.
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>>148217666
What if the Artoria/Archimedes duo wins?
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>>148217666
It's more complicated than that, Satan-sama.
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>>148217762
No it isn't.

>>148217710
I don't know? I'm not Nasu.
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>>148217491
>Nrvnqsr Chaos even ran wild through the First Crusade eating crusaders and saracens left and right.

Did this also come from EXTRA?
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>>148217831
Fate/Strange Fake, actually.
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>>148214986
sorry anon, but team Attila is the best team
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>>148220999
If you are a homosexual maybe.
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>>148217491
>Try to summon your ''''dad'''' back from the ''''''dead''''''
>but instead wipe out your species and drain all magic from the world

Are the DAA the Elric Brothers of the Nasuverse?
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>>148221527
maybe I am anon, what are you gonna do about it?
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When will genderbent Oda actually appear in serious content and not one off comedy crap
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>>148193515
Fuck. I hope the anime is good.
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>>148187428
>>148187561
>>148187590
Is this from the muso game?
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>>148193515
>Fate/Extra is getting an anime
>from Shaft
After Unlimited Budget Works it will feel like garbage.
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>>148223917
Yes
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>>148223917
yup
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>>148203073
Serious EMIYA is broken as fuck, which is why they probably won't fully explore his capabilities. Like, ever.
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>>148224121
He is still fucked against high tier Servants like Cu, or OP Servants like Alcides or Karna.
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>>148224121
Serious EMIYA is like saying serious Gil, or smart Berserker, or honorless Saber, or a Cu devoid of pride, or a virgin Sakura, or an Illya that doesn't die prematurely, a Kotomine that can find happiness in doing good deeds, etc.
It's just out of character.
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>>148224205
>high tier Servants
>like Cu
He's mid-high at best, and Archer can play him like a fiddle.
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>>148187590
Jeanne has to be t he biggest odd duck out of this team
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>>148224307
He's just as good as Herc and Arturia when outside of Japan.
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>>148202430
>Nero is clean.
>Nero has standards.
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>>148224681
>when outside of Japan
It's actually when in Ireland. Or do you think people from, say, Gabon, know about Cu Chulainn more than japs?
But in that case you should compare him against Greek Herc and Brit Arturia, who would be miles better because they are insanely more popular heroes, especially in their home countries.
Cu has mid-high tier stats and a gimmiky NP that's severely nerfed by range limit, charge time, and more importantly, his abysmal luck.
His runes could be good but he dislikes to use them because muh pride and shit.
The Cu wanking needs to stop already. He's good, but extremely overrated.
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>>148225013
>Fate/Side Material
>If the stage of this Holy Grail War were anywhere but Japan, he would be a shining existence on par with Heracles and King Arthur.
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>>148187590
>Conqueror
>conqueror
>conqueror
>saint
I'm lost
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>>148225013
Only the luck of the receiver affects the outcome of Gae Bolg. Even then its not a guarantee and the receiver can still get hit just not in the heart. After that Cu can just try it again.
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>>148225210
Well, she was technically a military leader. I'm sure they have some kind of non-storyline reason to want to put her on the same team as those guys.
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>>148213956
>And I just assume that there isn't a new Zelretch for all the new world because then it becomes too confusing.
Now I'm picturing Council of Reed Richards except with a bunch of Zelretchs
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>>148225190
That's obviously metaphorical, it has nothing to do with power levels.
Fate/Extra proves it, since it doesn't take place in Japan, and he has almost the same stats and skills there (he's arguably worse because he has less Battle Continuation rank).
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>>148187590
BEST FACTION
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>>148224248
Serious EMIYA is very much a real thing. Shirou is serious in all his fights, Archer just stopped giving a shit because his priorities went from the grail war to killing Shirou, so winning fights against Cu, Caster, Saber, or whatever were second priority.
It's sad, too, because we know that he can go toe to toe with Berserker and take off a ton of his lives but we never get to see that. It's his one 'full strength' fight (and he was still injured because of Saber) and it's off screen.

Fate/Extra I won't comment on, because his abilities are tailored to fit an RPG combat system.
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>>148223979
It's not like UBW was particularly good either with all those eyecancer special effects, bad CGI and sub-par directing.
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>>148225563
(You) could have tried a little harder to hide it.
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>>148202461
It probably won't happen, but I'd like to see Hakuno in priest clothing.
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>>148225624
Don't worry, I'm being completely serious.
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>>148225416
Q: If the Holy Grail War were set in Europe, would Cu chulainn (Lancer), King Arthur (Saber), and Heracles (Berserker) be roughly equal in power?

A: ...Well, if we’re talking western Europe in general I’d say the first two would be powered up to an equal degree... though England and Ireland, the odds would be sharply in the respective hero’s favor. Heracles would display excellent power in all of western Europe.
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>>148225530
>Shirou = Archer
>Archer was serious against Berserker
Illya was there, if he was actually serious he would have sniped her instead of going melee against Herc.
Also, he clearly didn't even use Caladbolg because the castle was still standing. That thing destroyed the whole cemetery in UBW.
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>>148225530
>and he was still injured because of Saber
I don't think I've ever seen anything to support that claim.
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>>148225733
>I don't think I've ever seen anything to support that claim.
Read the visual novel.
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>>148225692
You just disproved you own first quote.
First, it was anywhere outside Japan, now it's Western Europe, which is a very small portion of Earth.
Moving the goalpost at it's finest.
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>>148225730
>Illya was there, if he was actually serious he would have sniped her instead of going melee against Herc.
We're talking about how strong and adaptable he is in a Servant vs. Servant fight. He was very serious about trying to kill Herakles because he didn't want Rin, Saber and Shirou to get killed.
>Also, he clearly didn't even use Caladbolg because the castle was still standing.
Must be tough to do so unless you have a lot of range, plus that would put Illya in danger. DEEN's first F/SN anime was stupid about that.
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>>148225766
I did. I don't remember them ever saying that Archer was still suffering from his injuries. If you can point to where it was said then that would be helpful because I don't remember.

>>148225797
I wasn't that first person. I just posted it to show something not so "metaphorical". Anyway the Mooncell isn't that great of a place to fight since everyone gets a neutral ground so its also like Japan.
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>>148225906
The only route where he's not injured is HF ffs
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>>148225951
He's at full capacity in UBW because Shirou stops Saber before she cuts through his neck.
In HF he just doesn't get to fight much and then he dies.
It's Fate where Saber literally cleaved halfway through his neck with a surprise attack.
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>>148225951
Yes I know that, but its not like servants can't heal from their injuries. The only way to kill them for sure is to hit their core and that wasn't done with Archer. I'm pretty sure Saber recovered from her injuries before getting Avalon and she was getting shit from Shirou. It doesn't seem like Archer couldn't recover with a good supply from Rin.
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>>148225826
>He was very serious about trying to kill Herakles
Not serious enough, since judging by the wounds on Berserker, the state of the castle and the fact that he used Overedge, everything points towards a melee fight.
A serious Archer would use fucking arrows, not K&B shenanigans.
>that would put Illya in danger
So, by your own logic, Illya's presence prevented him to fight seriously.

Face it, even in his most serious fight, he didn't really give two shits. Serious Archer is out of character.
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>>148226029
I can't quote anything definitive right now, but I'm pretty sure he was healed.
He recovered from almost losing an arm against Lancer in a couple minutes in UBW. He was just fine when he entered the church to kill Caster and Kuzuki.
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>>148226066
Not that guy, but you should also remember that he was supposed to stall Herc and keep him from the trio as they got away. Getting away to snipe and nuke would defeat that purpose since they could ignore him and go for the easier fleeing group. Hell nuking could get the trio in the crossfire.
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>>148206377
>Hector isn't in
>NASU A HACK!!!!!
>Hector is clearly in Grand Order

They clearly explain the quality of modern heroes and how they differentiate from older heroes in FGO. Most modern heroes are like scientists or inventors. They are people that propelled humanity forward as stars guiding the way for human invention.

In the past humans were guided by stars of great brawn that inspired them, in the modern age the meaning has shifted a bit, people are guided by intelligent and wise people who guide them forward and advance all of humanity.

They're all pinoneers, but different types of pinoeers, people that stand out regardless.
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>>148226261
>they could ignore him and go for the easier fleeing group.
He can canonically track and snipe a fast moving object from 4km away. How long do you think they would last RUNNING AWAY from him instead of closing the distance?
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>>148226066
Archer is good with a bow, but his strength lies in swords, which requires him to be up close and personal. He could toss Caladbolgs all day (one took Heracles life in the beginning of the UBW route, not Saber's mini-excaliblast like the anime.) but that would require him to gain enough distance not to blow himself to bits and also to keep his attention long enough to not find and slaughter Shirou, Rin, and Saber. It's just not a good choice.
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>>148226369
That's true but Herc is a tank and if Archer could fire say a BP Hrunting then Herc may be able to heal that and keep going while Archer has to take the time to charge another shot. I'm not trying to seriously argue this point I just want to provide a different view on why maybe staying in melee was a better choice.
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>>148226469
>Archer is good with a bow, but his strength lies in swords
No, it's the other way around. He wishes he was good with swords, like Saber-good, but it's not his true forte. He just accumulated a crapton of experience from pure training, and is so in love with swords his inner world turned into a forge, but he's not actually Saber material.
On the other hand, ever since he was a teenager he was insanely talented with the bow, whether he liked it or not. Shirou could only miss his target ON PURPOSE, that's how good he was, and then went and spent lifetimes sniping terrorists and dictators for the World, of course he was going to be an Archer.
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