Why are normalfags so frightened of mecha?

Because they are insanely boring for the most part. The shows in your pic give the concept a different twist which makes them more interesting.

Its starting to get lame. Too much overpower, Characters always gets insane, best girl didnt win.

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>>148143847
>Ms08 team
There is your answer. Watching the entire UC timeline would take weeks and they aren't willing to invest that much time.

>>148143847
Because normalfags don't actually want to watch anime. Anything anime related to anime trope gets filtered out of their head when they watch it. All they see is the coolness shit and over the top stuff. They don't wanna see long drawn out dialogue or plot.

Normalfags fucking didn't support Megas XLR enough and it got cancelled, fuck them.

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>>148143847
>Aldnoah.Zero

>>148144143
Mostly knowing that Tomino Gundam shows are awful.

>>148144151
>getting cuked by CN and US goverment
Symbionic Titan got the same fucking treatment. Life is horrible.

>>148143847
Because normalfags watch anime for the dumbest reasons.

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>>148144181
>tomino
>awful
Kek

>>148143847
>Aldnoah Zero
More like why do normalfags like Gary Stus so much.

>>148144238
Not that anon but Turn A is only good thing he ever did. He is the definition of overrated shit.

As someone who seems to more or less fit this category. I have very little interest in the mecha/mecha battles in the series. It feels like something a motorhead might like.

they're typically awful

Because it's same garbage shit

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>>148145083
>Turn A is good
pic related, literally you're taste

>>148145093
>"I don't like huge things beating the shit out of each other"
I bet you faggot don't like Godzilla flicks

>>148143847
>Why are /a/fags so frightened of mecha?

Fixed it for ya. Just look this thread.

>>148145166
I've never watched godzilla.

>>148145140
wow is that the most boring taste in ani-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>148145166
>liking Godzilla

>>148144163
What's wrong? It's a starter pack for normalfags.

>>148145083
While I agree that Turn A is good (I think it's great actually) and his best work, I still think his other stuff are alright like 0079, Zeta, Victory, etc. I wouldn't call him an amazing director or even a great one but his works definitely have a charm and types of characters you wont find anywhere else.

>>148145140
I want to say you're wrong but you exactly aren't.

>>148145195
This, you could almost say mecha is a normalfag friendly genre as it has action and doesn't focus too much on the cuteness of the girls.

>>148145166
The issue between people's aversion of mecha and godzilla movies are similar. You think it'd be action packed, fun ride, but then when you start watching it's just people talking about boring shit.

>>148145231
>not liking Godzilla
Kill yourself. Godzilla greatest monster

>>148143847
Stop fucking posting this.

>>148144151
>Because normalfags don't actually want to watch anime. Anything anime related to anime trope gets filtered out of their head when they watch it.
Not just on the topic of mecha, but this is definitely true. Whenever someone says "I hate anime, there's no variety!" or "90% of everything is harems and SoL because I said so!" what they really mean is "Most anime I try to watch has anime elements, and I don't like that."

Aldnoah sucked absolute shit. Just sayan.

>>148144143
>and they aren't willing to invest that much time.
Yet they'd watch 6 seasons of OP/naruto without problem.

>>148143847
>Full Metal Panic
Oh come on, OP. Now you're making me question your credibility.

>>148145692
At least those are laid out from first to last episode in single succession. With Gundam you have to spend another week just figuring out in which sequence you're supposed to watch all of it.

>>148145785
Or maybe if you're not retarded, you'll just watch them in release order like people do with anything else.

>>148145692
Because action shouen have very simplistic plot outline. I don't consider mecha complex, but time and time again, I've seen people being confused with more plot oriented mecha. Even something like Gundam (that's not G-reco) has people asking about the various factions' motivations etc.

They're terrible and never interested me, I was reluctant to watch geass and gurren lagann because of the mecha. I haven't actually seen eva, aldnoah zero or FMP outside of fumoffu.

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>>148145140
>your taste will never be this good

>>148145644
Watching the first cour with /a/ was fun, at least.

>>148143847
because every time i hear a word mecha i instantly think about smelly fat weeb neckbeards

>>148143847
Because mecha anime is for the most part shit.

There's a few good ones like Full Metal Panic, but those are only good because of the characters and not their mechs.

Mecha is usually millitary stuff. Just a bunch of people sitting in a room talking about millitary ranks, then the enemy appears and they send out the mecha to destroy them.

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>>148143847
Because they consider giant robots unconventional. Apparently this is a problem despite them being dope.

>>148143847
Because mecha is the 70s/80s Japanese equivalent of capeshit. If if honestly believe FMP isn't absolute schlock that represents everything wrong with anime you might be fucking braindead.

>>148143847
they only like superpowers.
most of those cannot be really called mecha since they feel more like superpower anime than machines anime.
why normalfags hate machines? dont know, probaby too intelligent for them

>>148143847
Because the entire idea of fighting in giant robots is idiotic. Only the most autistic of manchildren can suspend their disbelief long enough to watch a show based on that ridiculous concept. It's even more idiotic than battle lolis. Name one reason why mecha won't be outclassed by just about every other type of weapon/vehicle? Wonder why modern military isn't trying to build any mecha? Who wouldn't like to have a machine that deals that much damage and only needs one barely trained emo schoolchild as a pilot. But it's almost like they, unlike autists from /m/, understand it's a stupid, shitty, unrealistic concept.

>>148147672
>only autists can suspend their disbelief
It's the opposite, sperglord. "This cool thing isn't a realistic military application" is the epitome of autism.

>>148145495
Anime = cartoon = animation

There is no such a thing as "this anime is too anime". You can't be too cartoon or too anime, if they are the same.

>>148143847
>Code Geass
For the lead
>TTGL
For the spectacle
>Eva
For the pretentiousness
>A/Z
For the bandwagon
>FMP
For the romance
>08th Team
Lazy

>>148147672
and superpowers and summoning monsters are more realistic?
fuck off faggot
nothing shakes a man's heart more than when two giant robots punch each other to scrap, more if they are piloted by cute lolis.
normalfags like you are just intimidated by machines because it reminds you how stupid you are and how you failed those science and mathematics test and dropped out of school.

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>>148147708
>"This cool thing isn't a realistic military application
And superheroes isn't a realistic job application. How the fuck do you get through life by that mentality.

>>148147745
there is no spectacle in ttgl, not any more than other standard mecha, niether is it 'over the top action' like retards say, and the MC is unbearable. I dont know its so popular

>>148147776
But most mecha fans are stupid people who spend their time on stupid shit, like anime or /a/.

>>148147816
>MC is unbearable. I dont know its so popular

Because people have different tastes and interpretations.

>>148145261
But mecha shows with cute girls are the best ones.

>>148147776
>>148147708
Shows about monsters and superpowers rarely try to take themselves too seriously though. Whie mecha's ridiculousness is amplified by these shows trying to be realistic and grimdark in all other regards.
>you failed those science and mathematics test and dropped out of school
Lel, don't get me started on the so called 'hardness'. A true hard sci-fi fan with a basic understanding of physics would just roll their eyes at shit like Gundam where they are in space, but one person is standing on the floor and another is for some reason floating... in the same fuckin room. And this newtype shit is gay and literally fantasy tier.

>>148147725
Anime is Japanese cartoons, not cartoons.

>>148147908
>Lel, don't get me started on the so called 'hardness'. A true hard sci-fi fan with a basic understanding of physics would just roll their eyes at shit like Gundam where they are in space, but one person is standing on the floor and another is for some reason floating... in the same fuckin room. And this newtype shit is gay and literally fantasy tier.
>literally fantasy tier
I think I've found your issue.

>>148147672
Found the American. I've never understood why you guys are so obsessed with realism.

>>148147908
I don't think anyone has ever argued that Gundam is hard sci-fi, so I'm not sure what the fuck your point is. It's bad because it's not something it doesn't try to be?

>>148147916
Wrong, anime just means animation. Disney movies are called animes on Japan, you underage faggot.

>>148147979
Oh, yeah, I forgot that the word in English meant the same thing as in Japanese. You should post a Pinocchio thread, since this is the cartoon board and all.

>>148147908
>>148147672
Another especially ridiculous aspect of Gundam is how they have technology for telepathically powered giant robots, but can't build a basic weaponized satellite for shooting down enemy shuttles and colonies launched to Earth by those space edgemasters.

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>>148147949
>I've never understood why you guys are so obsessed with realism

The hell it has to do with America? That place produce every kind of fiction or animation.

>>148147979
But we are on a American ENGLISH Board you fucking gook.
>My name is OP and I'm the biggest faggot. Please fuck my ass with worms.

>>148145140
Oh fuck that's almost spot on.

>>148148005
>I forgot that the word in English meant the same thing as in Japanese.

Yes, it means the same thing.

>You should post a Pinocchio thread, since this is the cartoon board and all.

This board is Just for japanese cartoons.

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>>148143847
>Why are normalfags so frightened of mecha?

Because us americans are not going to be entertained by cheap transformers rip offs

>>148148077
Transformers came out in the late 80's while the most popular Japanese mecha show came out at least 10 years before this.

>>148147940
>>148147908
In one post you mock mecha detractors for being stupid, scared of technology and failing STEM tests, when someone points out that mecha shows don't give two shits about STEM you bash them for being obsessed with 'muh realism'. Just cease this constant moving of goalposts and admit that mecha is neither good fantasy, nor good sci-fi, nor even good drama and just a trashy genre watched either for nostalgic value or for Big Robots Doing GAR Things. I think >>148147201
had it right.

>>148148025
Take American mech designs in video games for example. They try too hard to make they look practical and they end up looking like an ugly lump of mess.

>>148148077
transformers were originally japanese toys.

>>148148051
I'm not OP, its not even related to OP. What the hell is you with this paranoia?

Also, it doesn't change the fact that there is no such thing as this monkey said >>148144151 he is making the same mistake that he acuses others, by trying to limit animation by unecessary archetypes.

This thread proves that mech haters are the same kind of obnoxiouis faggots that go on about "muh objective criticism".
The faggots who'll seriously act like you're inferior for liking stuff they don't because true mature intelligent adults only watch true intelligent objectively good mature shows

>>148148220
In short, they're boring people.

>liking a franchise that's true aim is to get you to buy their shitty toys more than making a good show

There hasn't been a good mecha in 7 years

>>148148281
Almost every anime show's true aim is to sell you something, That something can be toys, figures, LNs, manga or other stuff. Very few anime are made just to tell an story without trying to get the audience to buy something.

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>>148148183
Different mediuns and tones, most of said videogames take themselves seriously. Still there is enough variety out there, as well, there are more "realistic" japanese mechas too.

>>148148281
That's the job of the director and the series composition writer.

>>148148344
The only time they get it right is when they copy Japan.

>>148145495
If a medium is so creatively bankrupt that "anime elements" are universally present in most shows throughout most genres, perhaps you should consider the idea that the problem is not people being too closed-minded and more with the medium in general having some severe creative problems.

>>148148338
Toys and Figures are the epitome of trash though

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>>148148140
> In one post you mock mecha detractors for being stupid, scared of technology and failing STEM tests, when someone points out that mecha shows don't give two shits about STEM you bash them for being obsessed with 'muh realism'. Just cease this constant moving of goalposts

>How does an anonymous imageboard work?

The fact that only mecha needs its own containment board (and other anime genres like SoL or magical girl, for instance, don't) kind of proves how obnoxious this genre and its fanbase are. I hope /a/ gets merged with /m/ before 4chan dies, the butthurt of mechababbies will be delicious.

While I'm a pretty big fan of mecha, it's not hard to see why normalfags don't like it. If you look at the big name of mecha, Gundam, UC stuff is a lot of dialogue and plot for over 100 episodes total and there's not flashy fights every 10minutes to keep them entertained. Which is why they can sit through unlimited Naruto episodes without blinking an eye.

If we're talking modern mecha (past five or six years), most of them just aren't good at all and the robots are not only extremely lackluster but the plot is lacking. So not only is it boring but it doesn't even look entertaining.

TL;DR Normalfags think mecha means constant giant robot fights with cute girls but 80% of the time it's dialogue and exposition or the robots look like shit.

>>148148074
>Yes, it means the same thing.
No it doesn't, you mouth-breathing fuckwit. Sombrero means "hat" in Spanish. In English, it refers to a specific kind of hat. This is how loan words and language in general works, you worthless sack of shit. Treat yourself to a dose of shotgun mouthwash.

>>148143847
I take the bait: If you want it to be even more trolly, exchange AZ for Valvrave or as I call it, Vulvarape the Penetrator

>>148148402
>weeabo making claims without arguments
Post discarded.

>>148148453
>If we're talking modern mecha (past five or six years), most of them just aren't good at all and the robots are not only extremely lackluster but the plot is lacking. So not only is it boring but it doesn't even look entertaining.
Fafner, Break Blade, Star Driver, Argevollen, etc. say hi.

>>148148514
>as I call it
Now this is some bait.

>>148148442
>mechababbies
>hurr durr look how mature I am hating mecha and the people who like it
Kill yourself

>>148144181
What is Overman King Gainer?

>>148148414
>so creatively bankrupt that "anime elements" are universally present in most shows throughout most genres
its because they are good and funny, and it has become part of the industry's culture. That doesnt make it bad, it just makes retards with shit taste spout their worthless opinions

>>148148442
But /m/ is considered one of the best boards among other boards, while most hate the /a/utism here. Its not just them.

>>148148587
Not a Tomino Gundam show.

The MC's of mecha anime are always annoying retards.

You can't even blame normalfags for this. Blame the toy companies. They were almost entirely the sole driving force behind the genre, and most of them found other streams of revenue.

>>148148414
>anime fans like things
>most anime have these things
>No, that's bad, every medium has to have an even variety of works to appeal to everyone!

>>148148624
What are you even talking about? The topic of the thread is people who don't like mecha, not the economic state of mecha. And there are plenty of them being made, so I'm not sure what your point was supposed to be, anyway.

>>148148557
Which is why I said most of them and not all of them anon. Break Blade is one of my favorites and Fafner was surprisingly enjoyable. For some reason I thought Break Blade was 2008 as I wrote the post, which is why I didn't use "last decade".

>>148148489
In English it just means cartoons made on Japan, underage friend. It says nothing about tropes.

>>148148607
Let's not exaggerate. /m/ argues all the time about if tokusatsu even belongs on its board, shitposts all the time about which Gundam sucks more, ignores all the newer /m/echa shows, has constant generals, has extremely notorious samefags, and complains all the time about the lack of moderation.

>>148148539
then why is tranformer the only highly popular mecha show in the west?
dont try naming other shitty western mech shows because they dont even compare to tranformers, DC and marvel.

>>148148666
Fair enough, but once you have enough exceptions, "most of X is bad" becomes an irrelevant truth. Most of any genre or medium is bad, that's not a valid reason to ignore it.

>>148148596
>its because they are good and funny,

How it is to be an entry level pleb who doesn't know the potential of animation or storytelling?

>>148148539
I don't know what you want me to tell you. Unrealistic mech designs are simply better.

>>148148675
So, just like /a/ then. Just swap toku argument with shit like gook comics etc, which gundam sucks more with which series is a bigger trainwreck.

Pot, kettles etc.

>>148147201
>takes issue with FMP being there, when it's fucking great
>doesn't say anything about aldnoah zero
what the shit are you trying to pull you little fuck

>>148148694
>why is tranformer the only highly popular mecha show in the west?

Because the west has different tastes and doesn't focus much on mechas. Like Japan not being into super hero cape-style comics as much as the west for many years.

>>148148596
>>148148638
The fact that you consider the refusal to accept outright creative bankrupcy only tells you how far anime still is from becoming a serious art. Literature from all cultures has long abandoned the idea of recycling universal trope sets as a substitute for writing, it does not need to rely on "book elements" to express creative ideas. Kino from all cultures has long abandoned the idea of recycling universal trope sets as a substitute for writing, it does not need to rely on "movie elements" to express creative ideas. Anime fans are still blinded by zealous weeabooism and ignorance of both wordly and Japanese culture. Anime is a uniquely Japanese-only thing (not true, by the way), therefore stagnancy must be excused. Literature enthusiasts grow up reading a lot of literature of the past, kino experts grow up watching a lot of kino of the past. Anime fans are often totally ignorant of anime of the past and the medium's roots, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the medium has any merit to it.

>>148148783
and that was the point.
the only time westerners can make a decent (economically) mech show is when they copy the japanese.
and transformers isnt even decent its just shit

Never got that deep into it because i have no idea whats worth watching and what isn't. Gundam wing, TTGL, evangelion and some Getta stuff is as far as i've gone.

>>148148726
I can tell you that /a/ absolutely doesn't like manwha at all and that those threads actually die quickly to disinterest. Same for chinese stuff.

RBWY on the other hand, now that one is being regularly shitposted.

>>148148829
>Literature from all cultures has long abandoned the idea of recycling universal trope sets as a substitute for writing
>Kino from all cultures has long abandoned the idea of recycling universal trope sets as a substitute for writing
phew
for a second there I almost thought you were being serious

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>>148148722
>muh objective taste

Turns out that people can like different things for different reasons depending oferece ther tone orçamento setting, and don't need to choose one or another.

>>148148829
>>>/mu/

>>148148860
We're talking about the writing aspect, you stupid shit, not cinematography or narrative technique. Even in regards to these aspects both of these mediums are still far more rich than anime.

>>148148835
Its like saying that the only time that gonks can make a decent capeshit show is when they copy the west.

You are just missing the point that these audiences just didn't liked the format very much, its an issue with what people want to see, not an issue of creativity.

>>148148839
That was true a while ago. These days, I've seen gook threads last. Incidentally, that was the same shit /m/ said about toku in the early days as well. Look where things have headed to now.

And I said
>etc
for a reason. If anything, /a/ has a hell lot more things to complain about than /m/. Like VA threads, DJT, sad panda just to list a few other examples. There are still people arguing about whether those should be on here. So really, mocking /m/ or mecha is sheer hypocrisy. We're a cut of the same cloth.

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It all boils down to mecha anime being an acquired taste most of the time. You might not like mecha as much as the next guy, but the ones that do watch a lot of anime will eventually get down to trying out multiple shows from the mecha genre that aren't in OP's pic (that gets spammed quite a bit). That's not to say they'll like the specific anime, but you get the point.

Normalfags barely even bother looking for good anime outside their little comfy box anyway, so I don't understand the argument here.

>>148146594
>but those are only good because of the characters and not their mechs
What's the point of saying this? Mech designs are obviously a major draw but they're never meant to carry the series on their own.

>>148148829
hollywood does much much more of that trope recycling, why have you gleefully ignored that?
also stop watching haremshit and and shonenshit you fucking faggotthey are literally made for teenagers and kids.lurk more, stop posting and try watching something better

>>148143847
I also don't like mecha at first but I am slowly liking it now.

>>148148975
>Its like saying that the only time that gonks can make a decent capeshit show is when they copy the west.
they havent made a successful capeshit except when theyre parodying it, like in samurai flamenco.
and it wasnt successful.
also capeshit is just for children and manchildren

>>148143847
The principal characteristic of normalfags is that they don't know what they want. Their tastes is dictated by popularity and bandwagoning, and mecha is not nearly as popular as it was in the 80s/90s.

Also mechas shows are always inspired/derivative of other mechas shows, and people are afraid when they are confronted to tropes they don't understand. That's why the shows normalfags like are often the most trite/cliched of the crowd.

The shows you listed are notorious as they attracted a crowd of people who were not interested in mecha but in something else
Code Geass - because the main character is similar to the protag of Death Note (that's literally it)
Gurren Lagann - because it feels like watching a Super Robot parody (even if most of the audience never watched a genuine Super Robot show)
Aldnoah/Zero - because it has Urobuchi and Sawano name on it
Evangelion - because of reputation

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Mecha as a genre is fine. It can be good when it wants to.

Normalfags just hate it because it seems "childish" I guess

>>148148951
>We're talking about the writing aspect, you stupid shit, not cinematography or narrative technique
Yes, the former of which is often sacrificed as they're too busy flaunting the latter.
>Even in regards to these aspects both of these mediums are still far more rich than anime
That's right. But don't go pretending they've ascended to a higher state or anything like that. I'm not even sure they've got a better ratio of tolerable shit/insalvageable horseshit, it's just they've a far bigger market where even the time-relevant refuse won't be heard of.

Call anime shit all you wish, it fucking is, but don't pretend film or literature is anything but bogstandard on average. I fucking wish, but that's the furthest thing from the truth.

>>148149094
Parody of capeshit is still capeshit, and you have successful mangas like OPM and Boku no Hero.

Also
>complain that capeshit is for manchildren.
>on the board that only little girls can post.

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>>148149036
>also stop watching haremshit and and shonenshit you fucking faggotthey are literally made for teenagers and kids
And so is mecha. The only reason mecha has any traction on 4chan is because of the subhuman American kids who grew up on toonami and who heavily intersect with /v/ on a venn diagram. It's also the only reason garbage like DBZ is mentioned in any positive light whatsoever.

Can't wait for the /m/ and /jp/ merge this thread is gold

Give me 1 (ONE) reason why I should watch Mecha.

1 (O N E)

>>148143847
They don't like anything like they feel they can label "cliche" or "generic" and get away with. Same with the mahou shoujo genre, I've experienced. Unless it's Madoka then they'll dickride it all day.

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>Gundam is disregarded as a toy commercial
>It has a better story, more memorable characters, and more emotional moments than 99% of anime
>Meanwhile autists spend thousands of dollars on waifu toys from shitty LN adaptations

>>148149175
> heavily intersect with /v/ on a venn diagram
>on a venn diagram
Entirely superfluous. Are you really trying to show off 1st lecture set theory material? You could teach that to fucking kindergartners.

>>148148829
Good job, you completely disregarded the fact that other mediums also have huge industries dependant on, and aiming to make, money, for which purpose they rely on the lowest common denominator plus current trends. Or are you going to ignore the vast success of mindless and shallow pop music, the surge of 'literature' like Shades of Gray, and Marvel printing cash by shitting out one mediocre-at-best capeshit film after another? Anime is like any other entertainment industry, the good stuff mostly flies under the radar while some of it sometimes manages to be a huge mainstream access (I. E. Evangelion). >>148149094
>What is One Punch Man
>What is Boku no Hero Academia
I'm sure there's more, I'm not a big fan of capeshit myself though so I don't know of other shows.

Honestly I don't even know where to start when it comes to mecha. I watched NGE and Code Geass but that's about it.

If anything I'm just intimidated by the size of genre.

>>148149265
>They don't like anything like they feel they can label "cliche" or "generic"

You are saying this like both things aren't big problems.

>>148145245
This, desu. He's somehow an overrated hack who is underrated.

>>148147541
The supernatural elements are far easier to stomach than the actual mecha which are as a rule pretty implausible.

Eh. Mecha has a dis-proportionally large number of high tier songs and OSTs.

>>148149273
>has a better story, more memorable characters, and more emotional moments than 99% of anime
But it hasn't. Most of the characters are annoying, act retarded and fickle like PMSing girls. The ones who don't are just side characters with 2-3 lines. The so called 'emotional moments' are of the cheapest laziest tearjerker variety, all the drama in them boils down to those retarded characters freaking out while cliches like 'hurr war is bad' and 'pepople die when they are killled' apparently overheat their tiny brains

>>148149273
What one are you talking about specifically? Most of them are garbage.

>>148149305
You can slap those meaningless labels on everything in every medium if you try hard enough. So no, they aren't a problem.

>>148148829
>people unironically responding to this
Come on, nigger, this is like not recognizing the Stallman pasta or something.

>>148149494
>>148149475
That's also pasta.

>>148149305
They really aren't, as you come to realize once you've graduated high school. The insistence that things avoid cliches, and that being different makes something better, is absolute cancer.

>>148149622
You are getting it wrong.

What is the point of whatching over and over again multiple shows with the same archetype, same MC, dealing with the same problens, with the same cast, with the same gags and with the same resolution, without producing any other interesting interaction that derivate from the norm?

>>148150082
Because the new Malibu Stacy has a hat, and that is enough for me.

>>148150082
>whatching over and over again multiple shows with the same archetype, same MC, dealing with the same problens, with the same cast, with the same gags and with the same resolution, without producing any other interesting interaction that derivate from the norm?
what the fuck are you even talking about?
unless you are talking about haremhit or shonenshit this doesnt make sense, and you are a retard if you complain about these things in teenagers' and children's shows.
Hollywood has been at it for years too

>>148150154
also >>148150082 was not the tropes the other anon and certainly not me, were talking about

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Because giant robots are stupid and make no sense. Why build mechs when we have tanks?

>>148150228
tanks are not GAR enough

>>148150228
>muh ultra-realism
Take your autism elsewhere

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>>148150228
Because robots are cool. More so if they're robots that transformed from vehicles.

Transforming robots > robots > airplanes > tanks

>>148150082
Where the fuck did you get all that from? "Anything they feel they can label cliche" doesn't mean "literally a copy-paste of another show." The cancer are the people who jump on anything that follow any kind of basic genre conventions and essentially just look for reasons to shit on something for not being some totally new unheard of story.

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>>148150228
Tanks are boring and not cool

>>148148596
Solshit wish fulfilment trash is the family guy of Japan. What you are saying is that if something is popular, then it is good. Using that train if thought, Naruto is one of the best anime and manga ever.

>>148150154
>what the fuck are you even talking about?
>unless you are talking about haremhi

You could start by following the conversation. What is being said is that calling something out for being cliche, generic or too derivative is a valid criticism.

If you are an idiot tho, you will believe that I'm saying that everything that is cliche is bad, which isn't the case.

>Hollywood has been at it for years too

WHICH IS equaly shit.

>>148150343
No one even mentioned SoL, what are you talking about?

>>148150228
Tanks only exist to be blown up by mechs.

>>148143847
Gurren Lagann and Eva are legitimately great for reasons that have been explained to death, and only hipsters deny it these days
Code Geass is a fun ride, better than any Gundam at least
Nobody cares about Aldnoah Zero or Full Metal Panic anymore. Aldnoah was just briefly hyped by normalfags due to the heavy marketing, then it became clear that it was just an even worse version of Gundam
08th MS Team isn't great but it's better than the long boring Gundam TV series at least

>>148150383
Read the chain, retard.

>>148150345
i AM following the conversation, its just you are complaining about repeating and samey story lines in children's shows.
Things are even nearly the same like >>148150330 pointed out if you use your brain and not follow only children's shows.

>>148150345
Not him, but your own reading comprehension doesn't seem that good. >>148149265 clearly wasn't saying that completely rehashed shit was good, he's talking about the people who shit all over very fine, ordinary mecha or mahou shoujo or stuff like that just because they're not making some big effort to subvert expectations or whatever.

>>148150538
I did. Someone mentioned that they like "anime elements," in a thread about mecha, and you jumped to attacking "SoL wish fulfillment trash."

>>148150343
>What you are saying is that if something is popular, then it is good.
what mental gymnastics do you have to perform to get that out of my post?
>Solshit wish fulfilment trash
oh so you're trolling

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>>148143847
>Getting triggered cause people don't like the same kind of shows as you

Faggot

>>148150626
You didn't. Is reading difficult for you?
>>148145495

>>148150651
How is that mental gymnastics? I just used your retarded train of thought. Says a lot about your useless post.

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>>148150709
You fucking nigger, you misinterpreted my post and then replied to someone else's instead, of course your post comes off as unintelligible nonsense.

>>148150709
>I just used your retarded train of thought.
please tell me how
I said that those 'anime elements' are great and funny and have become part of the anime/manga culture, how do you infer that I said "if something is popular then its good"?
You are a literal faggot monkey who has goat crap for a brain.
See I also can do name-calling.

>>148148453
>If you look at the big name of mecha, Gundam, UC stuff is a lot of dialogue and plot for over 100 episodes total and there's not flashy fights every 10minutes to keep them entertained.
Something being slow and focused on dialogue and plot does not automatically mean that it's good. Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and Downton Abbey have very few "shit is happening" moments, yet they are some of the most popular Western TV shows of the past few years. In anime, GitS SAC is even more talking heads than Gundam and is still popular. It might be more graceful to assume that viewers find the characters and plot in UC Gundam to be terrible, rather than them having ADD.

>>148143847
Because it's the second most boring anime genre after sports

>>148150915
Did you just imply that Gundam wasn't popular?

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>4chan dying means you'll lose the only place on the internet where you can call Gurren Lagann shit in English and not be flooded by it's Naruto-Tier Defense force

>>148150976
In the West, with normalfags. Read the post I replied to.

>>148150854
Those "great and funny anime elements" becoming part of the "culture" can be easily compared to how dudeinsultslmao become "great and funny" american show elements. Doesn't make it good. Name calling aside, it's funny you chastise normalfags for doing this when you have the same view as them, except for japanese media.

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>>148150978

>>148150915
What's so terrible about the plot/characters of UC Gundam?

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>>148150978

>>148143847
>Aldnoah.Zero in this pic over Valvrave

At least Valvrave didn't disappoint

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>>148150978
This place isn't so great, either. Look at this thread.
Look at the fucking OP.

>>148150978
Yeah but on here, everyone knows your post is bait, so it gets ignored.

>>148151097
you're telling me > < , that ball on the head when someone hits somebody on the head, jiiiii, and slapsticks aren't funny?
buddy you should consider another medium for entertainment

>>148149622
On the contrary, only children and literally autistic people enjoy repetition and familiarity and hate getting out of their comfort zone to try new things.

>>148151160
>Your post is bait

That's the sad thing. You're so stuck in your attention whore generation that you can't honestly believe people hate Gurren Lagann for legitimate reasons that you think any opinion you don't agree with is bait.

>>148151137
I haven't watched much of it myself and never claimed I personally found it terrible. Main argument was that people finding something slow to be shit does not imply that the viewers are sugarblooded children. It's a common, and highly erroneous, implication, but it feels good for your ego to say.

>>148151213
> only children and literally autistic people enjoy repetition and familiarity
This is absolute bullshit.
> and hate getting out of their comfort zone to try new things
Where did anyone even imply that?

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>>148151160
that anon was not baiting, son. gurren lagann is trash, and I love mecha. Im sorry if thats your favourite show

>>148151215
It's like hating on K-on! Don't even try to give credit to yout post by saying that one would have legitimate reasons. You and I both know it's shit shitposting. It's sad that you have to lie like this.

>>148151137
>>148149475

>>148143847
Normalfags love Gundam though gunpla is a huge normalfag scene
>>>/Instagram/

>>148151215
>your attention whore generation
Why is everyone on /a/ obsessed with calling each other kids and shit when 99% of anons are probably from the same generation?

>>148151445
I just wanna pretend that I'm more mature and smarter while being anonymous.

If I do that on reddit, I will get lots of downvotes, and I'm not anonymous there, which means that everyone knows that I'm not smart and mature.

>>148148557
>the robots are not only extremely lackluster but the plot is lacking. So not only is it boring but it doesn't even look entertaining.
>Star Driver, Argevollen,
You proved his point dumbass

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>>148143847
>Why are normalfags so frightened of mecha?
They don't understand absolutely nothing about the genre, his tropes, cliches, mechs, rules and traditions. So they assume that the mecha shows and the mecha genre are just like your favorite shows and genres (yuri, CGDCT, SoL, Moeshit, school girl drama, slice of life, etc.), and spend their time spewing lots of specious bullshit.

>>148143847
It's normal fags and entry level people in general. Most of /a/ has seen at most two to three mecha shows, most commonly EVA and TTGL, and think they are unique in the genre in what they achieve and are especially unique for being about the pilots more than just the robots. They have no comprehension that not only are those two shows nothing new to the genre, ALL good mecha shows focus mainly around pilot and/or political drama that reaches far further than a lot of the more "normy show".

Also robots are cool as fuck but are considered "childish" by overly self-conscious people.

>>148145140
I don't understand what this was supposed to prove, that he had pretty decent taste?

>>148143847

Because it's kind of boring to get into?

>>148144107
> The shows in your pic give the concept a different twist which makes them more interesting.
You're talking out your ass. The only reason people say that is because they haven't watched any other mecha shows.

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>>148147816

> There is no spectacle in TTGL

>>148153809
That he's only someone who likes the gems that are pretty much uncontested great shows/movies and outstanding representations of the medium. He only will appreciate what is renowned, for the reputation they have not actually judging things on his own.

That's the only thing I can parse by posting all those series with a backhanded comment like that

>>148153809
>>148153990
That image is some sort of shitposting chart now because a Youtuber used it as an example of by-the-numbers taste. Just ignore it.

>>148153990

> If you like the 'gems' it's only because of the reputation they have, not because they're gems!

>>148152474
>Star Driver
>lackluster robots
>boring
>doesn't look entertaining
Them be fighting words.

>>148153983
Compared to the other entries in mecha? It's pretty dull and visually boring when it comes to the spectacle. When you add in the unoriginality, slipshod execution, the flaws, the awful second season, how much it really just rips off Getter it becomes very apparent for the genre it is nothing special.

Hell the attacks are literally copying other shows frame by frame, animation wise.

>>148154189
best animu

>>148144143
There's a timeline? I just went into MS team and watched only that

I don't even know why I don't like mecha. It looks fun at the beginning, but the fights get boring more easily for me than those in battle shonens.

"normalfag" who watched all Gundams just to prove to himself he's not a normalfag here. I still don't get mecha. I think it's silly and stupid, but I can suspend it just enough to watch the show. I have no interest in most themes robot shows and especially Gundam explore, so in the end I walk unfazed without thinking much of it.
Regarding Gundam, I liked Unicorn and Turn A. Early shit where Japan cucks itself by battling ebil imperial nazis and WAR IS BAD MKAY just makes me annoyed.

Regarding mecha themselves, robot battles are boring as shit and no amount of flashy colors make it interesting. It all depends on quality of animation to be enjoyable. Mecha tactics and fighting itself is just dull.
I don't know why, I'm not trying to shove my opinion, just trying to put out a few thoughts on mecha.

>>148143847
Zoids was tight

>>148143847
The tagline should be more like "Potentially good shows ruined by mecha".

>>148143847
Cuz faggets are busy liking loli and ninja shit

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>>148143847
Mecha is like fanservice.

It's nice if the series has some fanservice, but if the series is 100% about fan service, then it's shit. Same goes for mecha.

>>148151315
So it's like hating on a shit show liked by many people ?

>>148148829
Now I want to see what Scruffy says about anime.

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>>148150228
Why build tanks when you could build precision killsats?

>>148159388
Gundam and Evangelion are major events in his timeline of art in the 20th-21th centuries
http://www.scaruffi.com/art/20th.html

http://www.scaruffi.com/art/comics.html

>>148143847
Because ninjas, pirates and shinigami are better than mechs.

>>148143847
I didn't regret making that picture until I saw it on Facebook with hundreds of likes.

>>148151193
hehe...

>>148151215
Giving well-thought out criticism =! "it's shit lololol" and watching the (You)s roll in.The latter is b8.

Mecha is fucking boring

>>148143847
Eh, still better than ninja and loli shit

>>148150330
Following genre conventions too much for too long can be criticised though, the same way capeshit already is. And when it comes to genre conventions and cliche'd writing, mecha was far, far worse than capeshit is right now.

>>148162190
Fuck off miniwatermelon

>>148150246
I once saw two dudes in spandex shorts and no tops making out, and that shit wasn't wasn't even half as gay as what I just read. What the fuck is wrong with you? Seek help, you disgusting piece of shit.

>>148160893
Facebook is one thing, but have you seen it with an ifunny watermark?

>>148144181
>>148145083
Bait.
>>148145245
Zeta is over-rated and Victroy is awful. 0079 was his best Gundam work. Turn A is pretty good though and so was G-Reco for anyone that wasn't mentally disabled.

The actual /a/ "I don't like mecha but..." starter pack would be stuff like:

Patlabor
War in the Pocket
Macross: DYRL?
Honneamise

Code geass is the only good mecha on this list considering EVA is still not a mecha.

>>148166462
>considering EVA is still not a mecha
Biomachines are still machines.

>>148166608
A FUCKING CYBORG

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>>148166757
Oh yeah, that's the word. Whoops.

>>148143847
Mecha are a Japan specific thing for the most part, and normalfags are not legally permitted to like things outside their own extremely specific subculture

>>148159010
I can't even think of any mecha shows that are 100% about the mecha, though.

>>148148750
FMP beat the horse dead, Aldnoah.Zero is beating a rotten corpse.

>>148163157
> And when it comes to genre conventions and cliche'd writing, mecha was far, far worse than capeshit is right now.
I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "was" (it's not like mecha's ended, you'll have to specify a time period), and I sure as fuck don't know what capeshit is like, but I think there is and has been plenty of variety in mecha.

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>>148143847
But I like mecha.