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Why does /a/ hate Senjougahara so much?

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Why does /a/ hate Senjougahara so much?
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>why does /a have such shit taste
We will never know OP.
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>>148143014
monkey > crab > bee > snail >>>>>>> cat > bird > bat = snake = doll
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Because she won
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>>148142948
She's a piece of shit for starters.

And Hanekawa is best monogatari.
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Senjougahara is okay but Crabfags are annoying garbage. People are sick of them going full waifu sperg mode because she got 30 seconds of screentime. So everyone talks shit to make them fuck off.
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>>148143156
hanekawa was dead to me when she cut her hair
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>>148142948
Crab reeks with Kaiki's sperm
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>>148142948
She's a non character
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I love porn of her.
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I love her the same way I love all the Monogataris. Except Nadeko, fuck Nadeko.
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>>148142948
Because redditers overwhelmingly like Senjo. It's just flavor of the year contrarianism.
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>>148143283
Why do crossboarders flock to monkey and lash out at snake every chance they get?
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>>148143317
Everyone hates snake for being a selfish, unrepentant, murdering cunt.
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>>148143317
>flock to Monkey
But I never mentioned any favorites, why do you jump to the conclusion she is my favorite? I like her a lot but she's far from my favorite.
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>>148142948

USED GOODS

>>148143040

monkey best girl then the vamp, snail and the sisters rest don't matter
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>>148143317
VICIOUS SNEK
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>>148142948
She was okay in Bake, but went 'unimportant shit' territories later on.
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>>148143351
I like Snake because she's a consistent and engaging character who moves the story along instead of just trading banter and waiting for Araragi to solve her problems.

Suraga is just yuri/tomboy bait.
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>>148143351
Every girl in the show is selfish.
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>>148143410
Every girl ever, fictional or 3DPD is selfish. That little shit goes above and beyond.
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>>148143461
>angry 4chan virgin can't understand love

More news at 11
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>>148142948
What are you talking about? /a/ doesn't really hate Senjougahara, not more than any other girl in the show at least.
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>>148143496
>love
It was an excuse to not try at anything in life. She thought he was cool and nice for the handful of times they played board games. Then they had no contact for years. She was prepared to kill to make her mental acrobatics easier.
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>>148143167
She became best girl to me when she cut her hair. The only haircut nisio did right.
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>>148143496
She didn't really love Araragi, she was just obsessed with him, to the point she didn't really strive for anything else. Did you even watch her confrontation with Kaiki?
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How much of a faggot do you have to be to dislike crab?
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>>148142948
But we don't.

Vamp > Ougi = Crab > Doll > Snail > Sodachi > Phoenix > Sake > Bee > Monkey > Cat
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>>148143654
>monkey that low
>math that high
you started well but fell apart midway through anon
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>>148143654
Snake*

>>148143672
It can't be helped. Monkey doesn't fancy me and her character is lacking.

On second thought I would move Phoenix above Sodachi, but that's it.
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>>148143654
I know Bee isn't high overall, but her body is.
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>>148143860
I absolutely love fit girls.
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>>148143304
>Because redditers overwhelmingly like Senjo.

Wait, what? Why?
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>>148143860
>>148143924
She is a big little sister.
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>>148143971
Some anon is autistic and forced the "Redditgahara" meme a long time ago, don't listen to him

But back to topic, Monkey is undoubtedly best girl
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>>148143924
I fucking love this outfit, god damn
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Love this series and surprisingly all the girls

except gaen

Living the dream yo.
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>>148144060

Well Senjougahara IS extremely popular on reddit she is top 8 everytime there is the vote for best girl.
What is weirder is that some /a/nons hate her just because of that. I mean if you are such faggot that others people opinion matters to you more than your own then you should just go and kys.
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>>148142948
Because after all of that build up Araragi only gets to walk her home gently.
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>>148144060
>that whole doujin
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>>148142948
Because redditgahara
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I do like Senjougahara though, she's cute but not my favorite.

Loli trio, Kanbaru and imoutos are the best
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>>148145211
So no sex confirmed?
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>>148142948
She's the second best character
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>>148145034

Same thing happened to Joseph Joestar. He's popular on Reddit, so /a/ thinks he's shit.
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>>148146284
He is shit though.
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>>148146284

but Jojo is the GoT of /a/ so that definitely fits
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>>148146099
Araragi, is that you?
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>>148144060
We all know monkey is the best.
But WHY is monkey the best?
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>>148146099
How much do I have to pay a woman to cling to me like this?
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>>148147030
Probably like 10 bucks.
But if you have to pay them to do it what's the point?
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>>148146912
To put it simply she's a tomboy therefore automatically best. Although you could go into more depth and talk about her fun lovable personality and fit body if you wanted.
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>>148147114
Her "personality" is one long excuse for fanservice.
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>>148142948
because she is mature.
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>>148147241
It sounds like you were distracted from all the complicated dialogue by the flashing pictures mate
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>>148147114
>talk about her fit body if you wanted
Yes please
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>>148143981
For you?
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>>148147589
>>148147114
>>148146912

What about monkey attracts you fine gentlemen, physically? I think it's the eyebrows for me, makes me diamonds like no other
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>>148147244
>thread
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Senjougahara is simply the worst girl because she has the emotional maturity of an 11 year old trying to act like an adult.
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>>148147789
Her /fit/ body.
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>You will never be teased by Monkey
>You will never make Monkey feel embarrassed for being a girl
>You will never go hang out with Monkey like she's a bro
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Bat>>>>>everyone else
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>>148142948
I don't hate it. I just like Hanekawa and Shinobu much more.
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She's annoying as fuck
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>>148147857
But are you /fit/ enough for her?
Araragi is pretty sexy and she lusts for his body

>>148147885
>monkey will never sit on your face after a light jog
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>>148147996
This.
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>>148147885
>You will never make Monkey feel embarrassed for being a girl
Yeah she doesn't do that kind of tomboy anon
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>>148142948
because she acts like reddit girls do IRL
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>>148147789
Midriff and ass if we're talking physically.
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It's been a while since I watched this. My favorite was the basketball lesbian.
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>>148148224
this anon knows what's up
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>>148148224
why can't nips into anatomy?
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>>148148309
because it's a stitched shot
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>>148148040
I FUCKING LOVE MONKEY

GOD DAMNIT
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>>148142948
Initially I didn't like her because she took tsundere too far, even though it was fitting for her character, it pestered me, and made arararararararararararararararararrararararagayboy like like a bitch
I warmed to her as she warmed in kind, though.
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>>148148362
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>>148142948
But I love Senjougahara. Or Chiwa Saito I'm not sure. I swear it's Senjougahara the one that I love.
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>>148142948
My only big complaint with Crab is that she pretty much just lets Araragi walk all over her as he fools around with other girls. Other than that I like her but she's not my favorite.
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>>148142948
But I dont?
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>>148143158
This, pretty much.

Also, whenever someone is bitching and whining about how Bake was the only good Monogatari, there's a 60% chance it's a Crabfag.
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Is this not the most perfect creation of all time?
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>>148148849
Bake is the only good Monogatari and Crab is shit.
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Why anybody would hate any girl from this series is beyond me.
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>>148149334
both are false
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>>148149384
That shit she did with snake, while outing snake out as a bitch, was generally uncalled for.
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>>148143158
How is that different from other waifufags you biased faggot? Fuck off.
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>>148149414
No it wasn't. She needs to be taken down a notch anyways.
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>>148149457
I'm not concerned about the fallout snake got as it was rightly deserved, just the other suffering and possible averted consequences from other parties.
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>>148142948
Waifufags who can't appreciate a sensible, mature adult
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>>148149398
Sounds pretty accurate to me. Nisio went full pseudo-intellectual mode after bake and it fucking sucked.
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>>148149420
Because whenever crab gets any screentime at all crabfags say shit like she stole the scene/episode/arc

Like that shit at the end of tsuki or in the start of owari
They need to get over their waifu's irrelevance.
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>>148149545
How exactly?
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>>148149507
Araragi is there to fix everything anyways. As always. What can go wrong?
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>>148149575
When has Araragi trying to fix anything never gone spectacularly wrong?
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>>148149552
Sounds like any other waifufag out there. Crab haters are more autistic than Crabfags.
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>>148149671
No anon, literally nobody else does this.
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>>148149644
The end justify the means anon, who cares if things go spectacularly go wrong in the middle as long as everything is fine by the end
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>>148149671
Except other waifufags don't get that bad. Even snakefags have something to talk about at least. Sure, it's been beaten into the ground but it still has some semblance of actual discussion instead of single-sided gushing.
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>>148149717
Yeah but at least half the time Araragi is not even the one that fixes things in the end.
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>>148149749
Irrelevant since things are fixed by the end and everybody is happy and araragi is a big part of it.
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>>148149671
>>148149420
Exhibit A: Crabfags being whiny faggots, like always.
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>>148147789
her eyes
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>>148149572
Because it's a harem and at the end of the day trying to give more "depth" to these characters is laughable.
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>>148149717
Kaiki fixed that shit, Araragi just made it worse for himself.
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>>148142948
autistic girl
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>>148149712
>>148149730
>>148149785
HAHA are you faggots that dense that you're going to deny the constant ougi and shinobu threads that consist of nothing but image dumps? the weekly "please describe this child" threads? Get fucked.
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>>148142948
I really liked her in Bake and Nise, but she went to shit after her "character development". Same goes for other girls who got the Nisio treatment.
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>>148149806
almost identical to Snail's eyes.
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>>148150004
And adult Snail could be Monkey's twin sister.
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>>148149977
God bless this man.
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>>148149960
You are completely missing the point.
As usual.
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>>148149833
That's not an explanation.
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>>148150463
well it is pseudo intellectual trash.
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>>148149806
>>148150004
As expected of best girls
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>>148150501
Those are some nice buzzwords you got there
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>>148150437
There's no point trying to measure the stupidity of waifufags you dumb fuck.
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>>148149766

False. Araragi failed with Hanekawa spectacularly, and it was purely by her own efforts she became whole.

Take Tsubasa Tiger for example, people say it was Araragi saving the day, but by the time he got there, Hanekawa had already resolved herself to become one with Kako and solve everything for good this time, and risked burning to death to do so, something unique to hee amongst the girls. The only reason why he was even able to do anything against Kako was because he got the "one-shot oddities with a tiny scratch" sword from Shinobu. Hell, the only reason why Hanekawa almost died was because energy drain needs physical contact, and her oddity was a giant inferno in Tiger form, so it couldn't be helped.
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>>148151203
Monkey was willing to lose her arm.
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>>148151203
Building his relationship with Shinobu to the point where she would casually lend him the "one-shot oddities with a tiny scratch" sword was no small feat. He risked his life plenty of times for it.
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>>148142948

i really liked her, but only when she interacted with kaiki
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>>148142948
Because she's trying way too hard.
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>>148142948

It's just one shitposter and some copycats

Everyone knows Crab a best
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Hopelessly internalized insecurities
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>>148147810

Well no shit, she didn't have emotions for years.
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>>148148849

Whenever someone complains that Bake was the only good Monogatari, there is a 90% chance they dropped it at Nise and never watched anything else.
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>>148142948
>>148143392
>>148149977
Pretty much this. Thing is, her "character development" happened so early (in Bake) that the rest of the series continued without her. Even Snek or the sister keep getting stories...

She's just here for the fan service at this point. Same can be said for a lot of characters, but it's really obvious in Hitagi's case.

I hope you are ready for the snoozefest that Hitagi rendezvous is.
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>>148149833
>harem characters can't be developed
>the show is bad for expanding upon its characters lives and personalities

genuinely fuck off
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>>148153264
wut
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>>148153264

>I dropped it during Nise
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>>148148224
I want Kanbaru to sit on my face
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>>148142948
Because she is a cunt?
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>>148153325
He should have dropped it after Bake. It's the only decent one.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Hp4SlMhEI
Cute desu
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>>148153354
>shift to the passenger seat
>Kanbaru is in the driver's seat

such symbolism
sasuga monkey doujins
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>>148153566
>hitagifag
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>>148142948
Hitagi is and always will be best girl.
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>>148142948
because Ameritards hate short haired girls
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>>148145034
Underage or newfag. But I agree with your point.
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>>148153264
Monogatari faggots who pretend their shit series is nothing more than glorified haremshit are the worst.
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>>148154487
Faggots who don't even watch the show but pretend it's just a glorified haremshit series are actually the worst
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I have both Senjougahara and Hanekawa as characters on flist. You can like both man.
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>>148154537
c-could I have a link to the Hanekawa one?
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>>148152984
it's like trying to polish a turd. the characters in pornogatari will always be turds.
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>>148154603
/c/hanekawa

I'm on right now, honestly if you can't figure it out from that, you probably dont use flist anyway.
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>>148143156
So she cut her hair and dropped her glasses. And now she has Frankenstein's bride hair
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>Bee is now 5'11

takaimouto
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>>148154535
It is glorified haremshit you deluded cuck.
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>>148154732
no
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>>148150669
Just stopped in to point at that you are getting really upset about a cartoon, maybe you should go outside for a little bit, take a breather, do you think you can do that for me champ?
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>>148154732
Bingo. One moment you have the MC molest the loli and the next you have another character give a self-important speech about morality or how he fell in love with him. It's just terrible.
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>>148154732
It's not glorified at all it's blatantly a harem. People just hate admit they like a harem so they get buttmad
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>All these crabby hitagi fans

Wow!
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>>148155185
it's typical nisio trash and one of the reason why the monogatari fanbase is considered the most cancerous on /a/
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>>148155195
Now you all see what I was talking about.
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which episode was it that Tsukihi got bathed by her brother?
I want to watch it so I can fap
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>>148155308
it was karen not tsukihi wasn't it
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>>148155185
>self-important speech
I would say exactly one character in the entire series is self-important and most people hate her

Certainly nobody else gives self-important speeches.
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>>148155359
bathed not brushed retard
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>>148155359
It was definitely Tsukihi
gif related

>>148155375
>most people hate her
I love gaen-senpai
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>>148154732
>using the term cuck

I want crossboarders to leave.
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>>148155375
Most arcs include a self-important speech at the end. You're just a deluded Monogatari faggot.
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>>148155506
No they don't.
You just found a new buzzword to tout.
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>>148144060
it's not even a meme, it's literally one person

it's really fucking pathetic honestly, most people take the hint after the first week of failure
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>not liking sexy skeletons

this thicc meme has to end
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>>148142948
Newfriends waifubait, just take a look at Reddit. It's only normal for we to hate her since it's guaranteed to be a newfag like you posting a file.png of her.
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>>148155873
Crab is too skinny

10 out of 10 anons agree, monkey booty is where it's at.
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>>148156018
i dont agree
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Actual monogatari fan here. Read the gay light novels, watch the movies in theater, up to date with all the animes.

>There are actual monogatari fans who will try and pretend that the fanservice isn't fanservice.
>There are actual monogatari fans who pretend that part of the draw of the series isn't the artsy fartsy pretentiousness
>There are actual monogatari fans who will try and seriously debate that there is no harem aspects to it at all.

There has to be a certain level of delusion if you believe any of that, the show has fanservice, 90% of the anime is flashy ART and PRETENTIOUSNESS added by shaft to fill out episodes the last 10% is referential humor and plot, it's clearly set up as a partial harem everyone falls in love with our boy koyomi basically upon seeing him.

>There are real live people who argue that theres no pedoshit in monogatari.

Pedo shit isnt just actually fucking there and FREQUENTLY REFEREED TO IN CANON, its actually a major fucking plot point, you're absolutely fucking RETARDED if you think it's not there.


The entire series is based on sexuality, the whole thing is fucking oozing in it, you can't escape it, and if you could escape it, you probably wouldn't recognize the series anymore.

/c I'm going to post a plot synopsis after this so you fagets can finally understand the series.
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>>148156042
Then you are just lying to yourself

Wouldn't you rather lie with her instead?
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>>148156057
>the fanservice isn't fanservice
I don't know what that is supposed to mean
>artsy fartsy pretentiousness
It's not pretentious, you don't seem to know what that word means.
>debate that there is no harem aspects to it at all
Nobody does that, the debate is whether it's haremshit or not.

>pedoshit
Where the fuck do you think you are?
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>>148156057
Monogatari movies in theaters? Where do you live?
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>>148156057
>Spoilers beyond here
Koyomi is a horny emo faget because he butted heads with a girl and "Won" but lost his faith in his classmates/peers. The first thing that happens before anything else in the entire fucking series is he sees Hanekawas panties and goes home and masturbates. He meets a fucking bombshell super milf in kiss-shot and is begged for his help. He helps her because shes a fucking SUPER BOMBSHELL MILF, hes a horny mother fucker he can't say no to a girl like that. AND AS A RESULT SHE TURNS INTO A LITTLE GIRL, AND HE CANT FUCK HER. This is a central point of the plot. The fact that she has turned into a little girl means KOYOMI CANT FUCK HER. He wanted to fuck kiss-shot, he was being a beta male white knight, and he doesnt get rewarded with sex.

We have him and Hanekawa too repressed teenagers who are INFATUATED with eachother, they go home and masturbate to eachother, they get horny sitting together in class and both volunteer to work together as class reps merely to be stuck in a room alone with eachother after class. This is the entire setup for the WHOLE plot of monogatari. Everything stems from this, two teenagers who just want to fuck but are stuck in their respective "Roles" in life, they are stuck in how others see them. Hanekawa has to be the good girl, she can't ask to fuck someone. Koyomi has to have the emo outcast, he cant ask someone to fuck him. This is the crux of the series, this is what matters.

Then we meet senjougahara, and guess what, Senjougahara isn't seen as anything by anyone. She has no friends, she doesn't come to class most of the year, shes popular because shes pretty but nobody speaks to her. When koyomi helps her hes being a WHITE KNIGHT AGAIN, and this time the girl asks him out and you think that this is the point where hes going to be rewarded with sex. He saved the girl and hes rewarded with sex. right? WRONG FAG. Shes been traumatized, shes broken goods she tells him that she isn't ready to have sex.
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>>148156057
Dude nobody cares lmao just post cute girls
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>>148156184
No
She's hard and probably smelly

>>148156057
>>148156293
Please don't, we've been over this, ignore pretentious shitters
Who gives a fuck
A show can have serious fanservice and be hormonal as shit while still being meaningful. Just look at FLCL
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>>148154487

I know when someone hasn't watched it when they think it's a harem

Best girl wins the bowl in like ep. 3
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>>148153325
I watched until Hana and consider Bake to be the best. I thought it was a simple and interesting take on the harem genre. Then Nise happened and the characters became much more exaggerated to the point of stupidity. It was hilarious when SS tried to fix this mess. It's like the author never wanted Nisemonogatari to be adapted and he wrote more Novels trying to fix his mess because the series had become too successful for its own good.
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>>148156293
I mean you're missing the parts about everyone's characters flaws making them do retarded shit and run in circles but yes sexuality is a huge part of the series.

Which is why I don't understand the whole fanservice thing.
It's part of the theme of the series, it's demanded by the plot in certain scenes and it's in character.

Other than toothbrush.
Nobody knows what the fuck was going on there.
Looked nice though
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>>148156293
The entire series continues from there, all these horny kids who because of how they are seen by others, can't admit that they are horny kids. We have characters like kanbaru, who pretends to be hyper sexual and love dudes, and she has a crush on a girl and is actually a lesbian. We have Nadeko whose the cute girl who is seen as a perfect cinnabun and doesn't want to speak up and break the illusion. We have mayoi who is actually a bit older than koyomi and listens to everything he says and has real deep conversations with him, sorry stuck in a little girls body.

This is the entire series, Koyomi's quest to get fucked theres a reason he never helps a boy.

The entire series is about this, and if you thought "its muh satires" or "its not sexual!" then you are fucking retarded.
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>>148156467
He didn't want Nise to be adapted. No one else really did either.

He wrote SS with a plot in mind, just to have fun with the characters. If you don't like seeing them do things maybe you shouldnt watch the show
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>>148156518
Well, that's true. It's demanded by the plot, its an essential start of the story. Most fans of the series go on the defensive and try to claim it's satire or isn't there at all.

It's part of the story/plot. You can't say "uuu its not there!!!"
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>>148156396
>not wanting to smell monkey post workout
>mot wanting to feel her tense muscles relax by your massage post workout

Look at this literal faggot.
I bet you want to fuck pre-pubescent children.
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>>148156467
How where the characters in Nise exaggerated?
And how was it attempted to be fixed in SS?
What are you actually talking about?
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>>148156524
>>148156293
>I read Kizu and also I'm dense as fuck
did you really need 5 paragraphs to tell us this
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>>148156293

That's retarded

It's made clear in the book why he goes back and it has nothing to do with wanting to fuck Kiss Shot
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>>148156579
Maybe.
They are idiots though.

I don't understand why sexuality needs to be justified to exist on screen anyways.
Certainly it's rare to see it explored in any serious work because everyone's kneejerk reaction is "Muh base instincts" and "muh common denominator pandering"

I don't understand why we can explore most feelings but human sexuality and libido is off limits.

Personal I blame religion. Sounds like the kind of thing they want to do all the time.
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>>148156524
>and is actually a lesbian
your opinion goes into the trash. she literally said she also liked boys in hana in a moment of introspection
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>>148156467

No one wanted Nise adapted

It's literally the author writing his own fan fiction
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>>148156763
I think it's pretty clear that he also wants to fuck Kiss shot.
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>>148156818
His point was that she's confused and also is ragingly horny all the time.
Just like the rest of the cast.
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>>148156656

>How where the characters in Nise exaggerated?

M8 did you fucking watch Nise? Everyone becomes a caricature. By design.
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>>148156822
Was this the concern of the LNfags before Nise was adapted? I didn't come to /a/ until later.
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>>148156870
Just like every adolescent on earth.
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>>148144714
Loving the figure, where'd ya get it?
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>>148156825

Well no shit

But that doesn't have much to do with his desicison to save her, and there's nothing to indicate that he would ever expected to fuck her, just that she's stupidly hot. We can infer from that fact that he'd sure like to fuck her because he's a teenage boy, but that's about how far into that the book goes.
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>>148156876
How exactly?
Monkey's teasing is maybe a bit overboard but she's safely on her home turf against a defenseless Araragi who can't fight back.
Snail molestation is par for the course.
Crab does crab things as usual.
Snake shows her lewd side I guess, oh wait, she was gyrating in a swim suit for him in the bake anyways.

Everything was just more of the same.
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>>148156935
Yes, that's the point of good writing I believe.
Make it interesting but relatable to as many people as possible.
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>>148157022

Crab goes full S&M bitch, Araragi goes full pedo/siscon, etc.

This was literally the author's intention for Nise
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>>148144427
because it's best girls outfit worn by a tree.
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>>148157106
Araragi was always full pedo.
Him not being a siscon we had to take his word for as we don't see him with his sisters.
And trusting Araragi's word is about the stupidest thing you can do.

Crab was acting pretty much in character.
Her first scene involves her shoving a box-cutter in his mouth and stapling his cheek.
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>>148157106
How was this new? It started in Bake, then continued in SS and FS.
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>>148156304
I'm with this guy
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>>148157231
i'd let her bite my dick and turn it into a vampire dick, if you know what i mean
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>>148156304
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>>148142948
Forcing those threads don't make it true, faggot.

>file
As expected.
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>>148157363
>>file
>As expected.
What does this even mean?
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>>148156304
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>>148143377
Muh dick
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>>148157313
Agreed
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>>148156952
Grabbed it off of Ebay believe it or not.
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Nise is just Nisio writing his own shitty fanfiction, which is why the characters become walking jokes, he never intended to publish it.

If you don't like it, don't argue with me, argue with him

http://metanorn.net/2012/02/nisemonogatari-karen-bee-authors-comments#more-106905
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>>148157204
>Araragi was always full pedo.

He was not a pedo in Kizu.
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>>148157615
I guess I'm about to snag myself one
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>>148157221
It's nowhere near as obnoxious as in Nise.
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>>148157647
>http://metanorn.net/2012/02/nisemonogatari-karen-bee-authors-comments#more-106905

>the author literally admits that he's an unprofessional faggot without integrity

Monogatarifags BTFO
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>>148157880
>>148157647
Lmao, our shitty anime has 500 seasons, and a contract with shaft where everything he ever writes will become an anime by shaft.

Enjoy no season 2 of your favorite anime fag.
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>>148157647
Doesn't Nisio say that about all novels though? They print variations of "I write this 100% as a hobby" in every novel cover.
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>>148158384
nise wasn't supposed to be published

as the name says, it's a fake story
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I'm not here to discuss anything, I just want every one to know that I'm going to marry Ougi-chan
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>>148151365

True, though wasn't that part of the problem? She would rather lose the arm and still have the self-loathing than give up the wish and anguish of losing Gahara. With Hanekawa, the oddity in question wouldn't go away despite her accepting her issues.

>>148151521

Let's be frank, he found someone who was ready to latch onto genuine companionship, she was just being tsun.
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>>148159049
>Wanting to marry a cunt
You need to reconsider this choice anon
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>>148159049

of all the waifus you had to pick one of the worst ones kek. talk about shit taste
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>>148157743
Yeah, sure.
He didn't violently molest bat's head the first chance he got.

It was her putting on a helmet and giving him loli-headpats withdrawal that forced him to molest snail.
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>>148160110
I'm a masochist, also Ougi is more of a dick, kanbaru said so don't bother her about it.
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>>148160191
Ougi is a bad waifu but an amazing character though, probably one of my top 10 favorite characters ever as the sorta antagonist she is
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>>148158493
That's just what all authors say about personal works.
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>>148160191
Why don't you post yours then senpai, we'll see how you measure up.

>inb4 crab and the thread goes full circle.
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>>148160344
Not him but we all know who everyone wants to marry
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>>148160299
That was anime exclusive and not present in the LN. Also there was nothing pedo about that. If kizu was the first thing to be adapted and he did that nobody would call him a pedo.
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>>148142948

I don't. It's the direction of the franchise she's from that I'm not a fan of. It's just not my style.
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>>148160344

already posted her mate.

>implying I'd ever pick a basic bitch like crab
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>>148160483
You realize that it's explicitly stated in the novels that bat put on that helmet?
And what it means?
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>>148160533

Eh monkey is fine, I like my choice more and really all this is is my opinion > yours ad infintum so I'll just drop it here.
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>>148160336
this is specific to nisemonogatari
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>>148160724
But he says it about all his books.
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>>148160533

I don't think anyone in Monogatari could be acurately described as a basic bitch

Maybe Cat from the outside before you know her, but probably not even that.
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>>148160791

No he doesn't

He says he writes as a hobby but he doesn't say it was never supposed to be published and that he just went ham like with Nise
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>>148160791
I don't think he writes all his books without plans to publish them
http://metanorn.net/2012/02/nisemonogatari-karen-bee-authors-comments#more-106905

Keep this a secret, but to tell you the truth, I had originally written this novel without any plans to publish it. I wrote the entire thing without showing it to anyone. I wanted to hide it away without even making a single printout. In other words, this novel was originally something I was going to keep to myself. So this novel was written 200% to fit my tastes. I very much enjoyed getting to write everything that came from my mind without any arbitrary restrictions.

Yes, there were times when I asked myself, “What the hell are you doing? You’re a professional!” But I think there’s a certain charm to approaching writing as if I were an amateur.
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>>148160822
snake is basically a bitch
does that count
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>>148160898

Actually, yeah, Snake.

But like all of the girls, I feel like that would have to come with an "until".

Like, "until I became an evil snake god".
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>>148160667
What I meant is that he didn't headpat her as hard as he did in the movie. The point is that there was no pedo innuendo in the Kizu LN
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>tfw the best girl has been forgotten yet AGAIN
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>>148147789
Eyebrows for me too, also her plump ass
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>>148161037
Don't you have a thread up right now?
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>>148161037
There is a thread dedicated for her. This one is about people who dropped at Nise.
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>>148161037
>best girl
>best soundtrack
I would marry her
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>>148161037
i'd like to see how smug she is with my cooter shooter in her pooper
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>>148160822
>Maybe Cat from the outside before you know her, but probably not even that.

Hanekawa's favorite character from FMA is Kimbley, she is anything but normal. The big thing about her is that people just saw the perfect she'll and used her, and the ones that got close enough to be called friends all ran away once they saw what was behind that.
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>>148142948
Not the best girl but still k
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>>148157786
There are a few up for sale now. Just type in Bakemonogatari Shinobu and you'll see a bunch of things pop up. Lots of figurines all ranging from $50 to $230. I snagged that one for $43 during a "buy it now" option.
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>>148163507

Yeah that's exactly what I was saying
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Will Kikey ever appear in the anime again?
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>>148164215
He already has I think..

at the end of Koyomimonogatari you see him walking in a crowd with his head all bandaged up. Also he was sporting a beard while talking to monkey.
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>>148156293
Araragi and Hanekawa will eventually find each other. They are the best.
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>>148164501
In the latest book synopsis it's revealed that Hanekawa became a vampire, and is still alive 400 years in the future. So actually, that might be the case.
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>>148164549
Wasn't it also revealed that Shinobu became a donut thief as well and is a total neet because Araragi wanted to die with best girl?
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>>148164314
That was in Hana
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>>148164549
NOICE
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>>148143351
plebs hate snake for those reasons

I love her because she's one of the few characters I could sympathize with on a deep and emotional level

also it doesn't hurt that she has the best OP a VA whose voice could make my dick cut diamond
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Well I'm a snakefag so
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>>148164651
No, just that shinobu was alive and as a little girl.
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>>148165579
Alive as in... ?
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>>148165743
She exists, shes in the story, shes there. Her form is her little child form. "alive" was perhaps a bad word to use.
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>>148164549
Uh, what? No, that never happened.
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because germany raped her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okg0jZIRGhs
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>>148164825
So you're one of the "she's just like me!" shitters. Another selfish, lazy retard who isn't doing anything with themselves and wants validation regardless. Yeah, you're the type of snakefag people hate the most.
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>>148164549
There's nothing like this in Nademonogatari and Musubimonogatari isn't even out yet. Catfags aren't this delustional. Stop trying to false flag.
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>>148168528
He is probably talking about wazamonogatari, that if I remember correctly confirmed the exact opposite of that.
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>>148168641

Waza confirmed that she had vamp blood that mysteriously was gone after her hulk out, but confirmed nothing else.

For all we know she could get some weird oddity illness that came about because of that blood and because she was reckless enough to become one with two oddities. We'll never know until Nisio brings it back up.
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>>148170091
Yeah. We'll never know unless Nisio writes it. So there's no reason to assume it will happen, but at least one catfag does anyways for some reason.
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>m-m-muh bodyweight
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>>148142948
She's a cunt and is pretty bland in comparison to other characters.
Cat a shit too
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