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>i think this is one of the better looking masks in gundam so far. The ones from the previous several series were pretty dumb.
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He looks like Garrus.
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Luin's mask was baller as fuck
Zeheart's mask was pretty inoffensive
Mr Bushido and Seed masks were dumb indeed
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>>148076667
Who are you quoting?
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>>148077878
I fucked up and then 4chan wouldn't let me delete the thread.
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reminder the princess is NOT jewish stop this meme there are no jews is space
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Frankly all I care about and wish to see is Shino and Yamagi getting a happy end.
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Well the new episode hype is almost over, this could be the last thread for now, at least until the friday preview pictures, those are still a thing, right?
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>>148076667
I didn't notice before, but there is some red next to the Vidar. I wonder if this part of the hanger equipment or part of the suit's color scheme.
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Mika being a cripple made me hype for some reason.
The contrast of being connected to the virgin ayayay system and not having use if your right arm without it seems a bigger consequence carrying over from last season than the deaths of biscuit and other litterlwhos.

Did Ein die btw? Can't remember.
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>>148080281
Stabbed dead center on the cockpit and went silent mid-rant so I'd say yes.

Also based on the new op with Mika struggling on the ground he may be losing the use of his legs next.
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>>148076667
I think so too, it's closer to an actual mobile suit head/bug exoskeletton, leaving behind all those cheesy, convoluted masks designs referencing the samurai, hopefully for good.
One could also argue this is the the first mask designed with a clear intent of hiding the wearer's identity, proof being I have no idea who this man could be at this point in the story.
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>>148080866
>MS has a similar weapon loadout and design philosophy to Kimaris.
>Is named after norse god of revenge who literally kicked fenrir's ass for eating Odin.
>McGillis's family crest is a wolf.

There is like a 90% chance it's Gaelio.
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>>148076667
He was best boy last season but his turning into an edgy masked pilot only makes him better. I'm looking forward to how entertaining it will be to watch him play the part of the badass, powerful, mysterious antagonist with a troubled past.
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where's the new OP?

I didn't even know this was airing, well, first episode wasn't terrible so I guess i'm sticking for a while
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>>148081224
Its the song at the end of the first episode.
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>>148081169

Wait that's him?
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>>148081287
Not confirmed, but evidence based on gundam vidar suggests so.
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>>148081278

But... no video then? There used to be something called leaks in my time

Or I could bear the wait before
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>>148081115
Silly anon, Specialist officer Bauduin was killed in action, the man in the mask is the First Lieutenant Galein Barlton.
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>>148080281
Ein is uber dead. Gaelio is the one whose up in the air.

>>148080690
mika might also be getting a prosthetic arm judging by the end of the op. Either way i really love this double edged sword plotpoint with the barbatos, it reminds me of fafner how the conflict itself was one sign of danger but the fact that the mechs killed you slowly was another factor. I hope like that series IBO starts playing with the idea that mika can only be in the barbatos for so long at a time.
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>>148081287
Of course not, Gaelio Bauduin was killed in action. OP is Ace Pilot Gwenael Bartholi.
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>>148081328
half the op is cut for the footage of mika wrecking shit. Very slight spoiler of the episode just in the way of how it shows when mika enters the fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rhRuvaITjA

Its a pretty good op, spyair isnt as good as they used to be but they can sitll put out ctahcy shit. The visuals for the op are making me quite excited to see where this is going since its not only hinting at a more personal driven story for mika but its also foreshadowing an unwilling naze betrayal and additional conflicts in the future.
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>>148081367
This. May First Lieutenant Bauduin rest in peace.
Vengeance shall be thorough...
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I just hope that if they bring gaelio back that they dont try to turn him into a villain, like in the sense that vengeance drives him to do questionable things. Gaelio was a genuinly good person thrown into a gray conflict but he always was against the corruption inside ghallahorn and always had the best intentions for the people around him, that trust wind up causing him to bite it in the end. Him coming back to get revenge on mcgillis is a cool concept and a good aversion to the garma archtype but i hope they still do it with a sense of honor and goodwill, its part personal revenge but also mainly so he can stop the corruption at its source.

I highly doubt he will team up with mika and crew though.
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I'm happy the rumors of changing the animation director for the 2nd half wound up being true. Whilst not a massive improvement there was definitely an art bump with things being way less off model. Theres also some nice small touches here and there like how mika's right eye has a more muted color and lacks any shine in it.
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>>148081644
You mean like being disappointed at him but in the end striving to remove him because he knows ChocoChar's methods will only bring more ruin? That'd be lovely but I don't think the writers are up to the task.
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So a theory on why he doesn't just come out as alive and expose McGillis.

One, he has been demonized along with Ein as monsters who fiddled with disgusting tech and shamed Gjallarhorn while McGillis is the man who exposed the corruption and the darling working to restore Gjallarhorns image and glory. Its his word against the golden boy's.

Two, he's been physically fucked up and needed cyborg implants and has a fucked up face which is his excuse for the mask. And as we know, being a cyborg is demonized in gjallarhorn and especially in the seven star families. Basically he doesn't want to publicly disgrace his family anymore than he already has.

As for how he survived and got his machine repaired, I think one of the other Seven Stars is secretly supporting him to undermine McGillis.
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>>148081841
Those are reasonable points, yeah. Maybe the Issues are backing him up, that'd be pottery.
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>>148081644
Same, the mask probably means he's gotten more proficient at handling mobile suits (there's no way the char clone isn't a worthy opponent), which is good, but I don't think they'll ruin his caracterization for the sake of turning him into a villain. He'll probably do some questionable things, like he did before, but he's still a good guy at heart. Right before McGillis gave him the coup de grace, his sadness overcame his anger, if that doesn't make him husbando material, I don't know what does. He's just too pure, hell for all we know he might even pull a Gungrave on us.
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>>148081841
>basically he doesn't want to publicly disgrace his family anymore than he already has
Fuck, that's probably it.
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>>148081841
>I think one of the other Seven Stars is secretly supporting him to undermine McGillis
I hope it's the leader of Team Meat.
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>>148082155
>pull a Gungrave
It shames me to admit my newfagness, but what do you mean?
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>>148082290
Is him or one of the other two old dudes, really doubt it they didn’t seem to be all that important but who knows, I really doubt Gaelio father has any idea of what is going on in fact McGillis could also end up killing him feeding the Vidar thing more
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>>148081841
And something else I've been thinking about.

At the end of S1, kimaris appears to have been stabbed in one of the twin reactors and immediately shuts down. The twin linked reactors are one of the key defining traits of gundams in ibo and the method to make them was lost. Gundam Vidar is also the first gundam not to use a demon name.

I was thinking that kimaris couldn't have its reactor fully repaired and it affected its ahab wave signature, hence the new non-demon name for what is essentially a new unregistered unit (aside from it obviously being an alias).

Of course this could just as easily go right out the window and it really is an entirely separate gundam.
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>>148081419
Mika isn't getting anything of the sort. Maybe an exo-skeleton to help him move his arm but not a total replacement.
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With Purple Char even be an antagonist?
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Good to know most of us agree Gaelio is the best boy.
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>>148082843
...wat?
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>>148082944
Well the obvious main antagonist did try to murder him and stole his sister.
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>>148082914
Anyone with decent enough taste would agree.
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>>148082538
I wouldn't want to spoil you if you're ever going to watch Gungrave, but basically he fucks over McGillis and everything he did to achieve his goals, and then when Choco's at his lowest, cornered and alone, defenseless before Gaelio and waiting for him to exact his revenge, Gaelio just smiles and says he'd never kill his best friend.
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>>148083138
That'd cement Gaelio as Best Boy Of The Year, All Years.
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>>148083047
>he suffer so much
Post happy Gali-gali instead!

>>148083138
>he'd never kill his best friend
And we have Best boy of the year
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>>148082843
Purple Char will probably just be a wild card/minor antagonist/rival. He's stage 1 Char, while McGillis is entering his CCA phase so I'd say he's the main antagonist.

>>148082914
Indeed.
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>1 second shot of masked man.
>Its all anyone is really talking about this first episode.
>Gaelio is suddenly the most discussed and favorite character.
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>>148083479
Hopefully he's smart enough to realize he should stop being pissy at the kids who were just doing their job and focus his energy on the guy who got his friends killed and betrayed him as part of a secret power grab. Then again, Gundam has never been above iffy villain motivations.
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>>148083679
He's a big guy.
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>>148081644
I kinda want McGillis to win in the end because he's so glorious, but Gaelio really was just trying to be a good person. He's the only character I really empathized with in IBO.
If he becomes a revenge-driven edgelord he'll suck. Hopefully he'll be more driven by justice instead.
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>>148084010
>If he becomes a revenge-driven edgelord he'll suck
Depends, I'd love him even more if he spent 99% of his sceentime playing the role of the revenge driven edgelord but there was always that 1% that betrayed his good nature/quirkiness and remineded us he's still the same guy deep down.
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>>148083679
>covenant sniper gun
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>>148081644
>Gaelio was a genuinly good person

>doesn't consider exploited martian children to be human
>doesn't understand value of human life below aristocracy
>compliant with a violent and exploiting system
>in pursuit of a bloody revenge on an underage child soldier for trivial reasons
>enables Ein's own thrist for underage blood

How can anyone think a person motivated solely by revenge is "good" in any sense of the word?

>he always was against the corruption inside ghallahorn
He as only against corruption after McGillis opened his mind to its existance. Morevover, Gaelio himself participated in a shady ordeal in the Dort incident, where he used his position to further a private agenda. This itself was an act of corruption.

>always had the best intentions for the people around him
He barely cares about anyone outside of his innermost social circle. And his "good intentions" mostly involve soliciting Ein's violent actions on Tekkadan.
Gaelio is literally Kudelia, minus semblance of doing anything for the betterment of the lower social class.
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>>148082021
>Introduces a fun and interesting character with personality and an established relationship with multiple characters while representing an organization with relations to the main characters
>kills her off before the start of the second season
Fuck. It's like they just insisted on S1 contribute nothing worthwhile.
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>>148078187
>BERNSTEIN
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>>148085325
It means amber. It's an old Germanic name.
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>>148085210
>motivated solely by revenge
Everything you say is true, but are you just going to ignore the loyalty he has for his friends, his subordinate, and his family and how that very loyalty as well as his will to do the right thing fucked him over? Nobody's saying he's the second incarnation of Jesus. He's just an ordinary, selfish, spoiled kid who loves his family and his friends.
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>>148085325
I always thought it was Bernstain, weird
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>>148082551
>I really doubt Gaelio father has any idea of what is going on in fact McGillis could also end up killing him feeding the Vidar thing more
That's probably another reason why Gaelio is laying low and hiding his identity, so that McGillis doesn't use him as an hostage. Almiria might be safe but Bauduin papa certainly isn't.
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>>148086009
Fitting since her character is a stain on the series.
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Why did Orga react like that to Naze's call?
Who the fuck eats butterflies?
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>>148086009
That's how it's said even if it's not how it's written since "ei" is pronounced "ai" in German.
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>>148086208
There are two ways to interpret it:
1) He wish he was part of the harem
2) He was desperate for a way out of paperwork.

I think it's both, personally.
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>>148085891
>his subordinate
He didn't give two shits about Ein until he almost died acting as his body shield.
And about his his loyalty. Seriously dude, that doesn't make him special in any way if you consider the kids at Tekkadan who're dying for their friends on a regular basis. Gaelio is softcore as fuck when it comes to "loving your family and friends". He was literally less concerned about his sister getting married to some old prick than he was about McGillis not being able to get any pussy because he's "marrying such a brat".

>Nobody's saying he's the second incarnation of Jesus
Circlejerking gaeliofags blowing mere acts of human kindness out of proportion are literally bread and butter of these threads. Just listen to yourself for a change.
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>>148086204
She wasn't that bad this episode.
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>>148086381
Why does her head look so tiny now?
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>>148086365
Gaelio is merely the product of his education, not everybody can be an enlightened feminist (wooo I said the f word on /a/, come at me (you)s) in the 21st century like me and you anon. It's unfair to blame Gaelio for supporting the values of his era/caste.
>He didn't give two shits about Ein until he almost died acting as his body shield
And what's wrong with that? What matters is that he did end up giving them two shits. So much so in fact Gaelio was already dead inside from guilt even before McGillis betrayed him.

>Circlejerking gaeliofags blowing mere acts of human kindness out of proportion are literally bread and butter of these threads
>just listen to yourself for a change
Dude, how is circlejerking real, just close your eyes, don't look at the screen
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>>148086577
Her hair
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>>148086204
She really hasnt been bad since her character development. being kind of annoying for the first 4th of a show really isnt something really get hung up on.
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>>148085285
she'll be back, I know she will. She's just a little tired from working so hard. so very tired...
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Kudelia Obaa-san is the best
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>>148086968
It's funny how you went from BEST BOY SUCH A GOOD PERSON SUCH A NOBLE to "i-it's not his fault he was raised to be a little prick!"

>And what's wrong with that?
I guess it just says something about him as a person. Look I don't demand you renounce your husbando, just have a bit better sense of proportion when you charafag. I can't see all this BS and not comment on it.
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>>148087766
>BEST BOY SUCH A GOOD PERSON SUCH A NOBLE
I don't think anybody said that, again you're letting your delusions speak for you, I like him because he's a flawed spoiled kid and because I'm easily moved by vulnerable characters who suffer a lot and get betrayed. There's some gap moe at work too.
>I can't see all this BS and not comment on it.
How can you even be on /a/? Just let people enjoy themselves and ignore the discussions you're not interested in, don't be that contrarian who's intent on ruining everybody's fun because he doesn't share everyone's opinion and wants to flaunt how much of a special snowflake he is. If you don't care about discussing Gaelio nobody' stopping you from talking about Mika, Kudelia or whoever, hell I'll join in.
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>>148088370
Why can't Purus ever live?
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>no masked man showdown between gaelio and mcgillis
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cute
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>>148087505
>>148085285
I have no doubts she will be back somehow, she seemed too important to be killed off like that. Especially with how weird the
>get btfo
>escape with no explanation
>die half a episode later in the same way
thing was.
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>>148087570
Kudelia's new outfit really triggers my OL fetish. I am loving her skirt too. It really blends the stricter OL fashion with a more moderate and feminine one quite splendidly.
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>>148085285
>>148087505
>>148088928
I am pretty sure she is dead. Fuck that though, because she was the best.
The only way I could imagine anything else being the case would be if her Gunpla was to sell hotcakes. Then again, they could easily find ways to bring back the Mobile Suit without bringing back Carta.
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>>148088171
If you don't know of the extremely confrontational nature of this place then you must be new.
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>>148089076
>we will never get a season 2 with big incest vibes
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>>148089217
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>>148088171
If the fact that the bullshit spouted by flock of sheep makes my stomach churn makes me a contrarian then so be it. I speak out of my conscience. That faggot tried to kill a ship full of children and solicit another faggot to do the same. I'll always call your bunch out whenever I see delusional gealiofag blabber about Gaelio being a good person at the core, "best boys" and other crap.
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>>148089108
But its back, as McGillis MS, I can’t confirm it but read somewhere that is also Carta repaired unit, he is piloting it to “honor” her memory.
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>>148091209
Still looks radically different. Or at the very least very. It's gotten quite the makeover if it's the same base.
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>>148091275
I think it’s the same, its color make it seems different, but not sure about that
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>>148091209
>Choco man using a suit with high heels
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>>148091209
If the masked man is truly Gali, Will McGillis piloting Carta MS trigger him like Ein with Crank machine?
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Will Mika become the second gundam protagonist to literally become a gundam?
I hope so.
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>>148091864
I don't think so. IBO doesn't really add any mysticism to its gundams. It's just invasive technology. Possible outcomes for Mika involve becoming entirely paraplegic, catatonic, comatose, and if they go mystical after all, his consciousness might get sucked in.
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>>148086381
Because she was barely in it. Less Kudelia = better episodes. Basic math doesn't lie.
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>>148091864
no, Setsuna love Mechs, Mika no!
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best girl
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>>148092487
I’m hopefully that’s the case, from what little we saw of the new OP she didn’t seem to get to much focus in comparison for example with the second one, so she could be more of a support character this time
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>>148092991
Sugoi
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>>148092991
Eeeeewwwwwww
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>>148092991
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RYUSEITAI
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>>148092991
BUNDA
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Will we get beam weaponry ?

I was expecting stuff like "B-BEAM SABER DATTO"
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>>148093423
So what’s going on in this thread, image bump now?
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That was actually a pretty good first episode, better than S1, at least.

If only they could keep the rest of season as packed as this one.
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>>148093665
The first season seemed like purely world building and character development up until episode 16. Hopefully the story will finally be able to progress.

I'm cautiously optimistic since I had the same feeling from this episode that I had from the first 3 or so from the first season.
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>>148093802
I remember reading here that the director did said first season was indeed mostly for world building and the second season will have far more meaningful events and MS action, but no idea if that was true or if they will deliver on that idea
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>>148093423
cuck
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I want more SOL of Atra and Mika with the sisters. what the fuck.
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>>148094140
The twins are so cute, Atra and her car are also cute, Mika and his usual behavior is cute… I guess
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>>148094335
>>148094140
I can tell a lot of old characters will die this season
>Orga
>Shino
>Even Mikazuki
>Atra
Remember in an Interview after Season 1 Okada and the Writers said the story of IBO was about a bunch of Orphans with delusions of grandeur getting their ass kicked pretty badly in the end. Expect suffering from now on
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>>148095029
Pls delete this, i want Mika and Atra to be happy.
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I actually like the new characters of Season 2. Everyone designs in Season 1 always looked way too serious but this new guys look more animeish, like out of other Anime. Especially pic related. They give a more relaxing feeling
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>>148095114
Its going to happen and you know it anon. Mikazuki not being the typical good guy MC is already a sign. Everyone is going to die..............except for Kudelia of course
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>>148095029
>Remember in an Interview after Season 1 Okada and the Writers said the story of IBO was about a bunch of Orphans with delusions of grandeur getting their ass kicked pretty badly in the end.
Are you talking about that Newtype thing that we never got the actual text of so we don't even know who gave the interview? Because in a more recent interview Okada justified Tekkadan in their actions.
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>>148095154
Zack >> Dane >>>>> Hush
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>>148091864
More like mika is going to wind up so fucked up he can only be human inside a gundam. The opening makes it look like this cour alone is gonna do some serious damage.
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>>148092762
We only saw half of the opening. She could still be prominent enough in the first half of the song.
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>>148093924
I think its pretty believable, this episode already set a ton of events into motion using the first season as its momentum. I always kind of got the idea that tekkadan cant really get hit with any real losses until after they established themselves.
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>>148095029
I just want to see mikazuki's emotional breakdown. I find the plotpoint of his emotions being buried in his subconscious but we only saw it a few times last season. I want to see more scenes of like when he couldnt stop shaking in episode 13.
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>>148095443
Why?
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>>148095743
That could only happen if Orga died, and Orga dying is not happening until the very end, if at all.
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>>148095784
Because Zack is hilarious, Dane is harmless but seems likeable and Hush is a edgy wannabe faggot.
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Is Kudelia the worst peace princess in Gundam?

>Pawn for fat old men from start to finish
>Her actions made the world a worse place to live in
>Increase in slavery, child soldiers, terrorism, and battles
>But at least the three billionaire old men who sponsored her are prospering thanks to deregulation and their monopoly on half metals.
>Also Tekkadan because Mars turning into the Middle East gets them more Mercenary jobs.

I guess in a way she could be carrying out her dream to fix Mars. After all the commoners are sold as human debris or killed there won't be any poor people left and the average quality of life on Mars will go up.
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Explain to me how someone like Carta has the best IBO doujin currently available.
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>>148095902
She was never after peace, she was after Mars independence. And independent Mars apparently is destined to be a shithole.
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>>148095813
Nah it will happen without orga dying. People kind of over exaggerate how much mika relies on orga given that mika is more the brains anyway. Mika just puts his trust in orga unconditionally more so than relies on him.

Mika seems to be really bothered by the insinuation that he enjoys killing, that plotpoint will probably come back up soon especially since im convinced mcgillis and him are made to be similar just so it can get to mika later in the show. If someone is to die for mika's development unfortunately its going to be atra. Her and kudelia are probably the 2 people closest to mika on a personal level outside of orga, orga and kudelia are much less expendable given their role in the series but atra is unfortunately ripe for the death picking.
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>>148095994
Mars is space Zimbabwe
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>>148095154
>Fuck this gay shit, I want to fight
>Oh fuck, we're actually fighting. Oh god I'm going to die
What the fuck was his problem.
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>>148095921
Chuuni christmas cake with a body made for breeding
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>>148095921
Please that tomose doujin of kudelia is the top tier one.
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>>148096091
Hes naive and doesn't understand the weight of conflict. His character basically exists to get blown the fuck out.
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>>148096091
>So these are the famous mercenaries
>I'ma sign up with them and hit it big with my superior intelligence and skill
>T-they're only decent on their first try because they have the alaya vagina
>Time to live out my fantasy of dominating the battlefield
>O-oh shit
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Will she ever be this happy again?
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>>148095029
If Shino dies the world will have lost a good man, a really good man.
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>>148096250
post the good one next time
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>>148096250
Considering she will probably die this cour to push mika over the edge, probably not.
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>>148096134
Not even the best Kudelia doujin, my man. The best Kudelia one is where she gets fucked by Mika and Atra (male)
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>>148096280
Get ready
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>>148096091
Because as a certain villain once said, admiration is the feeling furthest away from understanding someone. That's what happens when he realise reality of the situation is very different from what he envisioned it to be.
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>>148096356
>Atra
>Dying

She's as crazy as Mikazuki. She'll have her pure smile and eerily normal face while holding a bloody knife this season.
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>>148077555
Bushido was great, but christ did he look like a retard.
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>>148095743
>Orga what the fuck do you want me to do
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>>148096470
That's so hot for some reason.
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>>148081513
What if it's Carta?
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>>148096057
>Mika seems to be really bothered by the insinuation that he enjoys killing
Doesn't he basically admit that he's into it the episode after the shaky hands?
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>>148095029
>>Atra
Atra is NOT allowed to die!
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>>148096057
>>148095813
We all know who is the slave in this relationship
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>>148096483
You can his arc is going to be

>Being a child soldier is awesome!

>Well shit, no it isn't.
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>>148095029
I can accept that if Orga and Mikazuki die together as they lived together.
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At first i wanted Mikazuki to kill this blonde bastard but since Gali Gali seems to be alive now i want him to kill him. He better have received a Char power up
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>>148095154
The cast really didn't need this edgy guy.
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>>148096470
I like shino alot but they really should of had him dying here in a final hit on ein to weaken him. Then having yamagi(i think thats his name, the blonde potentially gay one) carry on in shino's place.

>>148096587
No your thinking of mika's response to the insinuation itself, he just didnt understand what the space pirate dude was getting at and basically said fuck it, killing him is fine. It was afterwords that it kept getting to him possibly awoken by the gloomy atmosphere on the ship seeing shino and akihiro mourning.

>>148096656
this is what i meant by people tend to misinterpret their relationship. Mika is basically the shadow leader.
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It was actually me, Atra Mixta!
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>>148096781
But he is a funny edgy guy who shits his pants in the battlefield.
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>>148096779
McGillis did nothing wrong. And since Gaelio lived, he's also not guilty of manslaughter. You want to kill an innocent man.
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>>148096781
I think his development will be interesting. Everyone else is already hardened, a newbie like him gives more flavor.
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>>148096831
>the blonde potentially gay one
>potentially gay one
Anon he is gay as fuck
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>>148096779
I still want to see mikazuki and mcgillis go at it more than anything. I think if you look at the way mcgillis acts its eerily similar to mikazuki and im fully expecting that to be used as a plotpoint later on. Like mcgillis is a worst case scenario for what could happen to mika.

I'm still partially worried they are going to find a way to not make mcgillis the main antagonist. It's not unheard of for gundam to just pull a main villain out of their ass halfway through.
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>>148096846
But that was already Eugene. I guess they needed somebody to fill the part after Eugene manned up, but he's still basically a stand in. Except worse.
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>>148096859
>You want to kill an innocent man.
He is fucking his SISTER. It was ok before but now that he is a fucking weasel it is not
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>>148096859
That depends entirely on whether or not Gaelio was supposed to survive. Conspiracy to commit murder is a thing, even if the intended victim managed to survive.
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>>148096925
But in IBO it's perfectly legal.
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Reminder that there is no mask cool enough to give you a power up sufficient to slay McGillis.
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>>148096831
I actually thought they were going to murder Lafter, Azee and Shino. But this is a major problem with this show, it's somehow meant to be realistic but the only major death until now was caused by some shady circumstances that shouldn't have happened at all. I could barely care about the guy because he died in such a stupid manner. I would've cared a lot more if they killed off those three people in the battlefield.
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>>148096781
They didn't need a guy that looked exactly like the Astaroth pilot. What even is this?
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>>148096831
>he just didnt understand what the space pirate dude was getting at and basically said fuck it, killing him is fine.
He understood. He was questioning it himself too.
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>>148096910
>I'm still partially worried they are going to find a way to not make mcgillis the main antagonist. It's not unheard of for gundam to just pull a main villain out of their ass halfway through.
Honestly Mcgillis doesn't give me the final villain vibe. I think the big bad guy will be pic related. He looks more evil and smart
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>>148095029
>Expect suffering from now on
I'm here for this
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Its just a matter of time. This season will have 25 episodes again so we are in for a ride. And since there is no season 3 nobody is safe anymore...excpet maybe the new edgy character
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>>148095029
It's cool.
I'm sustained by the tears and suffering of animated characters anyway.
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>>148096859
Attempted murder.
Conspiracy
Outright treason
Sending the pure chuuni Carta to her death
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>>148097051
I can already tell he is not smart, he's overconfident and rash. He'll get wrecked my Macky.
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>>148096983
The rumor about this is okada did want to kill more people off but executives fucked with it. We just assume its shino lafter and azee since they had fake out deaths.

Theres probably alot of truth to that, cause they can still use those 3 to sell kits with for the rest of the show while the member of tekkadan they did kill in way of biscuit wasn't bogged down by any merchandise sales.

Its not like gundam really kills people till the last 10 or so episodes anyway. If you count up all the named character deaths in IBO so far and compare it to say zeta's halfway point they probably wouldnt be too far off. I could be forgetting alot but the only deaths i recall in the first half of zeta were kammile's parents, jerids girlfriends, and a fake out death for four.
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>>148097133
HE LITERALLY DID NOTING WRONG
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>>148097101
Apparently it got confirmed for 26 episodes, so 51 overall. Could be a recap though
https://twitter.com/WTK/status/782768567502581764
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So Mikazuki is now the new Commander of Tekkadan isn't he?
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>Yfw Carta is behind the mask
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>>148097051
Nah this guy is so gonna get wrecked by mcgillis. At most he will be the token 3rd party in the final fight.
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>>148097222
He pretty much always was.
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>>148097222
It's pretty funny how probably everyone in the Galaxy fears a Manlet now
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>>148097223
>Takes off her padded suit and mask as she gets revenge for Gaelio
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>>148097296
Mika is brute force, the entire planning and tactics come from Orga. Mika fights the fights Orga tells him to fight.
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>>148097344
I doubt it.
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>McGillis literally saving the universe
>people want him to fail becouse he offed some brain dead chuuni and fascist friend.
Don't be that guy anon, join McGillis.
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>>148097366
Orga tells him where to fight because Mika is pressuring Orga to lead them forward.
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>>148097051
>evil and smart
Really? He seems like the hot-blooded bro type.
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>>148097366
Your forgetting how orga always goes to mika for verification on his plans and when orga strays off course mika is the one who smacks sense into him.
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>>148097403
We don't even know his goals. Other than muh darkness.

McGillis a shit
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So guys lets do a baseless prediction on orga's fate. He basically saw his death flags wither away and die last season but will he be that lucky this time?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11360364
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>>148097403
>McGillis literally saving the universe
Isn't the universe in a worse state currently?
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>>148096280
He won't go before Yamagi confesses to him, right? ...Right?
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>>148097500
The story is about Orga and Mikazuki according to Okada and Nagai. Kudelia dying is more likely.
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Mika is probably the only gundam protagonist where it feels unlikely that he will survive his own series. The way they are building up barbatos slowly taking away his body really makes me think hes going to spend the finale of the series only being able to survive in the gundam.

He's either going to die outright or get a shit ton of prosthetics.
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>>148097421
Orga's always wanted to go forward, but he doubts his strength to. Mika reinforces Orga's faith in himself. Mika has no aspirations beyond being wherever Orga wants to go, because he wants to see it for himself, but he's aware that Orga has a load limit on how much he can tackle himself. Orga's still the eyes and brain, but Mika's the heart and blood; people can call it codependent, but for all intents and purposes they're basically symbiotic psychologies.
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>>148097714
>Mika reinforces Orga's faith in himself.
Did you miss all of Season 1?
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>>148097652
Yeah and Season 1 put a bit more focus on orga's story while season 2 is shaping up to put much more focus on mika. The story can be about someone 50/50 in plot relevance and still kill them off. I know the comparisons to it are baseless and were only made cause mika's a midget but gurren lagann was a story split between kamina and simon and that didnt stop the story from offing kamina.
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>>148097706
That would be pretty cheap considering we've already seen an "Even in death I still serve" Gundam character.
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>>148097714
Orga was literally afraid of Mika and stopping before he got to the happy future he promised Mika.
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>>148076667
Montero is that you?
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>>148097714
do not forget this scene anon >>148096527

mika genuinly does care for orga as a person, but mika is not a man without aspirations.
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>>148095154
He looks like Bakugou from BnHA except he isn't constantly angry.
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>>148097171
>>148096983
Ein having his way would send a terrible message. I prefer him to stay a loser since according to Okada/Nagai, he basically failed Crank's hopes he'd become somebody different from a child slaughterer. He is a failure of a human being.
>On Ein's direction from Nagai: someone who received advice to "not become someone who kills children" but failed to understand in the end
>so much righteousness that it almost seems like a lie - wanted to go far but came in too short and bit more than he could chew in the end, in summary....ignorance is righteousness's greatest enemy

I knew Ein wasn't going to kill anyone significant even before his rampage, seeing how Biscuit's death played out. I was only pissed the "they're okay" scene was so QUALITY, they coud've made it a bit more dramatic and not so cheap.
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>>148097754
Did you miss basic psych class? People in positions of power require reinforcement that only others can provide when the stress begins to encroach on their perception of their own leadership capabilities. Orga has Naze to fall back on when dealing with Tekkadan's relationship with Teiwaz, but it's Mika that provides the reinforcement for Orga when it comes to Orga's relationship with Tekkadan, because Tekkadan looks up to Mika as their hero and Orga as their leader.
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>>148097606
Shino will live and he'll give Yamagi a house full of kids just like his seiyuu had promised.
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>>148097459
Things need to get worse before they get better.
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>>148097786
Which doesn't disparage anything I've already said: Orga gets cold feet, Mika reinforces, Orga continues on like it never happened. That's what Mika provides. In exchange, Orga drives on and Mika travels along with him to the same desired future.
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>>148097860
I think ein having his way would of been interesting since it shows the damages done by someone who becomes so hell bent on revenge rather than the intentions of the person they are trying to avenge. Personally i think azee and lafter could get their fake out but i think shino should of died as much as i like him. Ein was always gonna be the mid boss but they could of had him at least leave a permanently bad memory for tekkadan and crew.
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>>148097821
>It was me, Klim.
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>>148097914
>I'ma say a whole lot of nothing please let me off
No you stupid faggot

Mika does not reinforce Orga's faith in himself. Mika pressures Orga into moving forward at any cost because Orga is afraid of him. Biscuit was the breaks and the voice of reason.
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>>148098063
>Brakes*
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>>148097917
I bet that's just some ploy so they can cash in on the audience's emotional pain when they kill off Shino.
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>>148098153
>Fumitan did right about when she started to get a real character
>Carta died more or less right after she was introduced
This show is terrible with characters.
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>>148098032
>it shows the damages done by someone who becomes so hell bent on revenge
The point they tried to illustrate was that revenge for the sake of revenge backfires BADLY. It's a cautionary tale. You may have other ideas you wanted them to convey, but to be frank I think yours is stupid.
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>>148098269
No. There's something wrong with those proportions. I don't like sluts, also.
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>>148098269
Kudelia should have died instead of Fumitan
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>>148098210
You can never rule that out especially with gundam. But it's so blatant, almost too obvious.
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>>148096057
Yeah killing the cute waifu can either completely destroy or fix a character moral compass all depends in the direction they want to take, so far with Mika its likeable going full demon, he also has that little bracelet to make sure he never forgets
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>>148098538
He'll be the Odelo of this season
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>>148096915
Maybe he is here to take Eugene place as the Tekkadan traitor plot line they dropped
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>>148098575
I've thought atra was going to die to send mika overboard ever since i realized that mika genuinly cares for her and cherishes the bracelet she made him.

Thats the thing i always found funny about the mika is a sociopath comments, they really do go out of their way to show mika cares for the people around him just in a very weird way of handling it. We've only seen him really emote on a few occasions and they were almost all when he was expressing concern for those around him.
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>>148098622
Nah, his character arc will definitely have something to do with Mika. I guess Mika needed another cast member on his dick.
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>>148076667
It's definitely an improvement over last seasons mask. Those eyes flaps were fucking stupid. On the subject of masks how come no one ever talks about how sick Neo's is?
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>>148098538
I believe he'll live and he and Yamagi will adopt five kids or something. They had their chance to kill him off with Ein and didn't, no one else hates him and his pink mech enough for it to matter.
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>>148098806
Indeed the guy is emotional repressed but he does care for those close to him and has shown great concert for them, but also easily goes nuclear when something bad happens to those he care and has no trouble getting rid of people that threat his friends like poor Gali getting strangled
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>>148098982
For the first time in mankind's history a cute homo ship has a chance to work out in a Gundam franchise. If they fuck it up, I'm losing all hopes for anything of the sort in the future.
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>>148098063
Nice headcanon, anon of the edge.
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did we get a timeskip?
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>>148099284
Atra's plate reads ATR-016, so I guess we got one year time skip, since she's 16 now.
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>>148099117
Considering how much they have talked about shino sexuality, trolling would be the only reason for then not to do it
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>>148096925
>He is fucking his SISTER

This is fucked up. Just finished s1 and it came full circle that gali got such a shit hand.
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>>148099284
Like half a year tops. It was basically done just to set up the political climate and ramifications of S1's actions and get right into the plot. I normally have an issue with these types of info drops but ill forgive IBO on this one cause it would of just dragged down the pacing from alot of the interesting things they are setting up.
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>>148099361
He'd still be fucking his sister even without betrayal.
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>African Union

Europe BTFO
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>>148099459
I'd argue one year. It took time to get back to mars, conflict to start up everywhere, Kudelia to establish her company, and tekkadan to start getting new members and teiwaz to develop a MP Hyakuren model.
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>>148099501
>China not overtaking Africa
We all know IRL that Africa would've been pink.
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Gaelio, he was a good friend.
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>>148099501
>canada
>not pink
?
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>>148098424
>>148098401
Haha gays
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>>148099536
Well getting back to mars probably took no more than a week, the only reason season 1 took so long was cause they essentially were wanted terrorists and needed to take detours to get out of watching eyes. They were protected after S1.
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>>148099729
It takes them two months to travel from Earth to Mars. Gaelio was bitching about it in first ep of S1.
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>>148099791
Holy shit really? I actually quite love how shitty the tech in IBO's world is.
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Kudelia's office interior is from Mad Men TV series.
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>>148099981
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>>148076667
>another masked character
I want this meme to die. At least just for one series.
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>Gaelio unmasks in front of his sister and chocoman
>she runs behind chocoman completely mindbreaking Gali
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>>148100020
We better get a scene of her drinking scotch while smoking a cigarette.
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NO BULLY THE MIKAZUKI
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>>148100306
What we need is a Kudelia version of that reaction image.
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>>148100324
he keeps a biscuit joke ready at all times for when they go too far
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>>148099495

How do we even know he's fucking gali's sister
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>>148100324
I guess unpopular opinion, Moments like this are the reason i really like IBO. I enjoy seeing the characters talking about things completely unrelated to the conflict at hand so it has a nice contrast to when things get more serious. That scene in particular i really liked with how it went from cheery to the girls begging mika not to go fight.
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>>148099981
>>148100020
Well indeed it is, also Atra car is a RX-3, right?
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>>148100534
He doesn't. /a/ is just thristy for loli porn.
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>>148100534
He is definitely touching her underdevelop breasts everyday thats for sure
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So how badly is their world tumbling down once Mika and Atra kick the bucket and they get booted from school
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>>148100640
God i hope she at least gets to do something to harm mcgillis when she finds out how much of a bastard he is.
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>>148099973
It's not really low tech, it's that somebody probably realized Mars is much farther away than anything in the traditional earth sphere most Gundams play in. It also seems like they use specific routes to get around.
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>>148100646
Theres already going to be a sad scene coming of them not wanting atra or mika to leave them in fear of never seeing them again like biscuit. Having that worry come true would be the most tragic shit.
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>Miku's body is still trashed

Way to ruin a protag
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>>148100640
did they just build a room that's half a mile of stained glass?
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>>148098424
come on man, don't leave me hangin'.

Gimme that delicious sauce.
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>>148100306
Someone will draw one, im sure. Along with all the claw edits.
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>>148100306

>kudelia smoking a big fat cigar
>penis reactor surpasses 100% output
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>>148100677
Well IBO still is a really low tech entry in this series, i really dig that they decided to omit beam weapons or the sort for actual blunt weaponry. It feels to me more like an early armored core world than a gundam one.
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What was the deal with Miku having big hands?

He never really grabbed anything huge figuratively as she was implying since he's still just a grunt
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>>148100797
Thats so they can just introduce it later
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>>148100324
Those two are well known bullies
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>>148100646
That scene reminded me of national lampoon's vacation.
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FUNNELS WHEN
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>>148100854

What about tiny flying maces?
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>>148100828
Pretty sure when the series was announced they outright said no beam weaponry of any kind cause they wanted a more medieval weapon set. So far nothing is pointing to any massive tech upgrades with lupis' main weapons already being revealed as a greatsword and dual maces
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>>148100713
He recovers his MC powers uses Barbatos don't worry. At least Ein do something right before dying tho
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>>148100836
For a moment they all looked like a family. If Atra and Mika survive and have kids they will probably look like that.
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>>148096280
>raising your deathflag already
What the hell
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>>148100987

Miku was fighting out of Barbatos like half the fucking show. Now he's useless unless he's in the gundam
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>>148101089
I cant wait for that school to get blown up or something
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>>148101139
Mika can probably still wreck some people even without his arm.

>>148101115
Hes fine for now. The entire cast has been raising their death flags since the start. Shino is fucked though.
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>>148101157

They're clearly gonna go the one twin dies route while the other suffers
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>>148101115
Death flags have no effect on Shino. Only relationship flags might still do something.
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>>148101115
The more death flags he has, the stronger he gets.
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>>148101115
He obviously wants you to only look at HIM.
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>>148101189
Isn't Shino/Yamagi like director's idea? Maybe he'll protect it from Okada.
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>>148101325
This.

Only known director for telling Okada to fuck off with her shit is Nagai.
Maybe we'll live to see the rise of a second one.
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>>148101325
Everyone seems to be fond of this idea, but I'll still be surprised if it actually happens despite it seeming like the most obvious thing in the world that at least a couple of guys in an all-male environment would formally get together.
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>>148101182
Nah i dont see either of the twins dying, but i can see their school being blown up and mika freaking out over thinking their dead.

Something of harm will come there way just to break mika.
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>>148101460
I wonder if Nagai's awareness goes that far or if he just wanted to ship bait.
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>Earth dust
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>>148101568
Nagai is a mastermind, don't question him.
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This episode is counted as 26th. So there's really no S2, it's more like a split season. Speculations about actual S2 starting at 51st already started.
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Nah really doubt they will touch the twins, Atra is the only one whose death is expected like Fumitan or Biscuit, almost sure her end will be in an episode named with flowers or something angelic, considering in Japan they like to call her Angel
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>>148101994
she will probably die sometime this cour if they are going to kill her.
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>>148102142
She was the narrator this episode, doesn’t that help her odds of surviving or something?
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>>148102273
it means either or, it could mean shes safe or it could mean shes more screwed and that this cour might just be her recounting everything leading up to her dying moments
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>>148102273
That way they can kill her and have somebody else start narrating next episode, making it sting more.
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>>148101182
I think that's too much, something bad will happen to them cause mika clearly feels responsible for their well being in biscuit's place but killing them off would just be a bit too far over the edge for this series.
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>>148101592
Can confirm. I was the one of the programmers they hired to maintain Kamachi's heuristics and he somehow snuck in code to convince it that the railgun fillers were the way to go.
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>>148098210
Gundam occasionally gives us happy endings for side characters. I was pretty sure Patrick or Kati were going to get killed off for drama fodder at some point and they ended up happily married. Even the original series had Frau and Hayato married and adopting war orphans. Unfortunately one of those orphans was Katz, but no family is perfect.
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>>148102696
That was the way to go, my friend. You should've helped him out.
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>>148102747
>Frau and Hayato
That's no happy ending, that's more like licking each others' wounds.
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>>148101994
Atra is a cute dog
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>>148102747
Its really a 50/50 chance of getting a happy ending in gundam. sometimes even the unlikely ones like fa and kammile got a happy ending (after going through alot of bullshit even in ZZ to get there)

also frau and hayato did not get a happy ending, they lost their child and then frau was widowed.
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Meat > chocolate
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>>148103072
True, and there are also a lot of open endings as well where they intentionally leave it up to the viewer to imagine.

>also frau and hayato did not get a happy ending, they lost their child and then frau was widowed.
I seriously doubt IBO is going to be popular enough to span a sprawling decades long multi series timeline like UC that will leave enough time to ruin the lives of any couples/happy endings that come out of this. AGE was sort of the weird outlier because of how it was setup.
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Orga in a suit is an absolute dish.
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Off topic but I just started watching Gundam and decided to start with Mobile Suit Gundam. Currently on episode 9 and already in love with it, although the animation is bad but its okay since it was made in the 80's. Going to watch Zeta next, I expect it to be just as good with better animation hopefully.
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>>148103553
Just remember to skip Turn-A and 00, no matter what the misleading anons try to tell you about them. They're not worth your time.
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>>148103595
Yeah, watch G-Savior instead. It's the pinnacle of the Gundam series.
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>>148103595
This.
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>>148103595
I always hear anons say 00 is great. Will take your suggestion in consideration though.
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>>148103680
You had best watch 00 it's great.
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>>148103680
I'm like half way season 2 of 00, but so far I can safely tell you that it's really good, not at the same level of the original or zeta, but good
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have they ever done a bait and switch in gundam where the child that has never piloted a gundam and you assume is the main character just immediately get blown to pieces?
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>>148104304
Considering that their target audience for gunpla aren't edgy old basement dwellers, they don't.
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>>148103553
Sounds good. I'd recommend just powering through the UC series and films before venturing into other Gundam series. G, X, Wing, Greco, IBO, SEED, AGE, 00, and Turn A are all essentially their own separate worlds. Despite what the other anon said, 00 first series was all right if not great, series 2 was a comedy of a train wreck which was at least better than SEED Destiny, as that was just painful to watch a lot of the time. Despite Japan's massive boner for SEED I didn't find either to be particularly good.

A lot of Gundam fans don't like Turn A because it's not really about cool robot fights and the pacing is much, much slower and less combat focused. Up to you if that sounds like something you'd enjoy.
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>>148076667
It's definitely one of the blandest Gundam mask ever.

>>148103680
First season is nice, second is dull and retarded. Movie is a 2 hours long beamspamfest ending in yet another stupid manner.
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>>148104453
I'd disagree. Second season was comedy gold. Watching that and playing the drinking games were the most fun I've ever had on /m/.

I suppose my recommendation on 00 would hinge on how shit faced anon is prepared to get.
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>>148104537
You have a piss poor sense of humor.

>playing the drinking games
>/m/
Tells you how bad a show is when you need that to have fun with it.
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Every gundam prior to IBO was dogshit.
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>>148104537
The fact that you had to use drinking games proves his point, idiot.
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My predictions
>McGillis succeeds in whatever his final goal is
>Atra lives
>Mika dies
>Orga lives
>Shino dies
>Tekkadan survives
>Kudelia dosen't accomplish anything significant.
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>>148076667
you're calling me dumb?
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>>148095029
mikazuki will become a gundam.
see the end credits.
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>>148104636
>>148104700
I don't think you understand. I didn't say it wasn't shit, I just didn't think it was dull. It was magnificently terrible. Identical twins, skittles squad, the least practical plan imaginable for a guided missile system, Mister Bushido, TRANSAM, etc. It was the very fact that it was so reliably shit that enabled /m/ to make a quality drinking game out of it.
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>>148104916
>I just didn't think it was dull
You played a fucking drinking game with an anonymous imageboard.
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>>148104673
And against all odds IBO managed to be even worse. Sasuga CloverfieldXOkada.
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>>148104793
Dumb cuck with an awesome mask. Headshots don't even count as flesh wounds.
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>>148104916
You're not helping your case. Last I checked, even /a/ didn't have to pretend to use drinking games for other retarded shows like Valvrape.
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>>148104962
I do all kinds of things with this particular anonymous image board. Real time discussions of actually decent series as they air has never been one of them.
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>>148100078
It did with Gundam X.
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>>148105106
You could have just enjoyed a decent show with others for real. Instead, you choose to pretend that you enjoy a shit show. Wew. Sasuga /m/.
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>>148081470
I'm think it's just an alias. I mean they were able to turn Ein into part of the MS. I'm assuming they used mechanical parts to fix Gaelio up and gave him a new identity so McGillis won't find out right away.
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>>148100078
I don't remember one in Turn A but it's been a long time since I watched that. Harry Ord did have some very silly glasses, but I think that was about it and I chalky that up more to goofy moon fashion than anything else.
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>>148105200
You mean Gwenale Bartholi is a fake identity? That's preposterous. Please go back to Arlong Park.
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>>148105200
They probably brainwashed him and made him Choco's puppet too.
He will snap out of after autist will mortally wound him and he will shoot Makky in the back in the critical moment.
That's pretty Okada if I say so myself.
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I really hope Gali ends up hiring Tekkadan and it doesn't become some stupid three way battle where Gali and chocoman both get murdered by Mika.
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>>148106138
>They probably brainwashed him and made him Choco's puppet too.
I want this, but at the same time I don't
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>>148106206
Another Sirocco/Haman/AEUG climax battle? God I hope not. But then again I don't trust Chargelio to be mature enough to ally with Tekkadan. I hope I'm wrong though.
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>>148100078
>hating mask for the sake of hating mask
You should only hate retarded mask characters for being retarded characters.
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>>148100020
>>148099981
oh wow
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>>148095029
>Expect suffering from now
Cookie and Cracker will die
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>>148099981
>>148100020
Ahahah ho shit that's awesome
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>>148103553
Dont listen to >>148103595
Watch 00 for fights and animation at least.
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>>148076667

>Gaeli/Garma is the masked man of IBO

Holy shit that is actually amazing.
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>>148099981
>>148100020
Does this mean Kudelia is an alcoholic now? Or is she Peggy?
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>>148083679

Because he's easily the most sympathetic character with the most development in general.

He fucking lost everything at the end of the first season and was cruelly betrayed by McGillis. Now he can get his fucking revenge and it might be glorious to see the Chocolate man pretty frustrated over his failing plans.
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>tfw McGillis will probably keep killing off all your favorite characters
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>>148110173
>keep
Start, maybe.
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>>148096831
>>148096983
>>148097171
I still maintain that Shino deserved better than a stupid jobber death for the sole purpose of buffing up Ein, with little time for any emotional payoff. He's like the heart of the team, Eugene loves him, Yamagi loves him, Akihiro loves him. Hell, I bet by the end of first cour Dante, Derma or the new guys will love him too. So executive meddling or not I'm quite happy with the outcome.
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>>148104916
Your mobile armor was designed to have the pilot sit in a exposed glass canopy in the dead center of the machine for anyone to shoot and your master plan was to attack the earth with flying buzz saws which you decided to use on your own colonies first as a test.

The only series with a villain with a dumber master plan I can think of is AGE.
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>>148110529
I agree that he deserved to live, but maybe with some sort of injury that prevents him from piloting which leads to him being the instructor this season instead.
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>>148110572
You know I dropped out of AGE before the end, but I'm now really curious about a villain with a worse long term plan.
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>>148110744
>Be butthurt that the EF abandons you and a bunch of other colonist in experimental mars colonies because the project is a bust after it turns out mars gives off some sort of reflective rays that cause anime bloody cough cancer.
>Instead of just moving the colony away from mars like you were shown to be able to have done the whole fucking time you park yourself in the rays and soak them in for the next hundred years while grumbling about the EF who abandoned you.
>But oh, you definitely aren't butthurt and thinking of revenge.
>No, you have this brilliant plan to end wars forever.
>You are going to create a long, drawn out, and incredably violent war so that all the violent and war mongering people wipe themselves out.
>This way all the peacefull people who have somehow survived this war will inherit the Earth and build a peacefull society.
>You start this plan by inciting your own people into a bloodthirsty fanatical frenzy.
>And kick it off by stirring up internal conflict and attacking the EF, whos society has been enjoying an unprecedented century of overall peace to the point they had literally thrown away their best weapons and the only real conflicts were some negligible pirate and small time mafia activity on a couple colonies.
>Claim you're going to be giving them a chance to fight back.
>While your own ms are completely immune to everything the EF throws at them until the gundam due to using super advanced tech that the ef threw away and whenever they do start to effectively resist you bring in a super nuke and blow the whole colony up.
>At the end of the series you die peacefully in your comfy bed happy.
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>>148111095
Note though, this is not Treize's "Make a war so horrifying and costly people won't want to go to war again" plan from wing.

This is "All the people who like fighting will kill each other but not the non-violent people".
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>>148101139
By the end he's gonna be stuck in Barbatos like Galigali.
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>>148111095
>Instead of just moving the colony away from mars like you were shown to be able to have done the whole fucking time you park yourself in the rays and soak them in for the next hundred years while grumbling about the EF who abandoned you.

This is the worst part. If he was that mad at the federation why didnt he just move the colonies away from Mars and then actually started the war?
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>>148111451
The 100 years was even before the war. During the war second moon sat in them for another 60-70 years and the other mars colonies even longer. All the while somehow pumping out enough soldiers to fight a war spanning decades despite a supposed large number of people getting sick and dying of illness.
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>>148111095
>>148111158
...I am simultaneously happy and sad that I dropped AGE.

Jesus Christ, those are both terrible plans but AGE sounds like something a very angry twelve year old planned out. Wing at least had the mild benefit of being vaguely based in reality. WWI was called the 'war to end all wars' until WWII broke out. The trouble is wars aren't waged for the sake of just having a good war. Japan especially should know that given how prone they've been historically to starting hostilities due to a lack of resources. No population would go along with a nut job like that. I don't demand my magic space robot cartoons are super realistic, but if you aren't going to commit to super robot tier comic villainy and then attempt to make a series where you try to play them off as a serious dramatic threat don't be surprised when people call you out on it. Japan, please.
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>>148111588
Did none of the soldiers think "Hey maybe instead of making gigantic ships we could just move the colonies?" or "Why dont we use our mobile suits and go to the nearest colony and tell the people living there what happened so we can gain public support?"
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Why did HS reupload the episode?
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>>148111667
What's even dumber is that they weren't even capturing colonies or Earth territory to bring in civilians and use the land for their own. They were just burning and sinking everything in their path.

>>148111624

Ezelcant lied to the people and claimed that the purpose of the war was to kill everyone on Earth and take it for their own. And he spun this tale about how Earth was this amazing paradise called Eden being hoarded by the EF.

A lot of people thought that AGE should have just fully commited to being a cartoony giant robot show instead of the half assed compomise of kids show with attempted serious plot that we got. Build fighters did the whole "Target both younger and older fans" thing a lot better.
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>>148086009
http://mandelaeffect.com/berenstein-or-berenstain-bears/
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>>148102747

>Mother fucking Patrick Colasour

I totally forgot about this amazing character.

The Team Rocket of Gundam.
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>>148084643
glad I wasnt the only one.
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>>148097917
Shino's VA sounds based. I hope he's right, I want a happy homo couple for once.
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things I like about IBO S2
>Tekkadan gets frogs
>Mika uses DUAL MACES
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>>148076667
I thought at first OP said "this is one of the better looking Gundam shows from the previous series" and I was gonna get irrationally or rather logically made at that utter shit taste.
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>>148096558
Carta was confirmed dead pretty explicitly.
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>>148114308
Gaelio faked it!
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>>148116134
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>>148116193
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>>148116663
>there's a bed right next to the cage but the guy sleeps on the floor for some reason
Why
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>>148116874
He can't find a mat that fits in the cage so until he does he will be a gentleman and sleep on the floor.
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>implying Masked Man isn't Biscuit
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>>148117049
>implying it isn't Crank-nii
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>>148116928
Oooh, a true gentleman indeed.
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One day she will return.
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>>148083479
>pic
Es ist Ein Hund.
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>>148118995
>Es ist Ein Hund.
Sorry freunde, Moi pas parler le patate chaude, Spanish Second Language.
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I'm a dude. She's a dude. We're all dudes.
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Aww, murder manlet gives you some flowers.
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>>148103079
I like him and his team so they're probably all going to die.
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>>148118923
I'll wait as long as it takes
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>>148119389
I want to give her meat if you know what I mean
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>>148116193
>>148118923
Those two should have never befriend the little bastard, it really ended up badly for them
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>>148119399
At least he's not OOC, unlike Orga being all smug behind him despite his unability to score with the cake who's attracted to him
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>>148119539
>unability
You're confusing inability with lack of interest.
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>>148119434
Cartafags actually exist? I hope she stays dead. What a stupid cunt she was.
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>>148119539
She's past her expiration date. All gundam MCs need at least 1 autist love interest so he'll get the tomboy unless Mika counts
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>>148119640
>He wasn't here for S1

way to out yourself
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>>148119624
Eh, I don't buy it. I think he's just at a loss on how to deal with a woman. His one track mind doesn't help too.

>>148119674
>unless Mika counts
Exactly. Orga has two love interests: Mika and Merrybit.
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i hope everyone in tekkadan loses and dies easily the worst organization in gundam history completely unlikeable and full of dickheads
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>>148096925
The sister wants it.
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>>148119640
CARTA-SAMAAAAAAAA
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>>148120398
Soon, it will be the one year anniversary of Carta's death.

It's high time you let it go.
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>>148110617
Nah, IBO needs his pink robot, that's just how it goes. Besides, being a MS pilot who can't get in the robot equals to being demoted to extra.

>>148110529
This reminds me. Flavour text on one of his cards from that card game thingy is a comment from that prostitute he bought on Saisei. She sounds super love-struck and all giddy, she talks about "such large, cheerful boy who was almost glowing" and how "his glow filled the entire place and made it seem brighter and happier", and finishes with a "fufu, what am I saying~". She sounds like an older lady of you ask me.
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>>148120272
Get your hetero goggles off your face once in a while. He's not interested, and I dounbt she is either. She's acting more motherly toward him.
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>>148119417
I know that feel
>>148119454
> she swallows
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>>148120985
>he's not interested
I'll give you Orga, but
>I dounbt she is either. She's acting more motherly toward him
If tripping on your feet just to land on your target's chest in the elevator counts as being motherly, then okay.
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>>148121037
Why did she eat the butterfly
Does she have the mental intellect of a dog?
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>>148121294
Gjallarhorn's standards have really dropped.
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>>148121294
Maybe he adopted his own insane martian child mercenary and she never saw a butterfly before?
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>>148119454
>>148119389
is she autistic?
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>>148121352
The first thing you do with something you've never seen before is try to eat it?
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>>148121584
Why not? Isn't that what Tarzan used to do?
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>>148121649
I don't want to break it to you but Tarzan is factional
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>>148119640
They were annoying as fuck in S1, especially when she died. Most flat out denied she died at all and kept claiming she was just really hurt and that tekkadan were monsters for immediately attacking instead of accepting her challenge.
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>>148121584
Could be a habit from when she was a starving orufen?
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>>148121189
You sound like a rapist in the making.
>she fell on my dick officer!
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>>148081506

Anyone got a mirror?
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>>148121759
And you sound like that autist who walk girls home gently.
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>>148121584
Works for the chinese and africans who dine on all sorts of bugs
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>>148120985
>implying the boys don't have weekly trips to the whorehouse now that they have come back to Mars
Everyone is getting pussy, Orga included. Your boy isn't pure anymore.
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>>148122111
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>>148122111
Orga and Shino already went to the whorehouse
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>>148122422
Eugene, not Orga.
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>>148122422
Eugene and Shino
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>>148122422
Orga didn't go. He was too drunk.
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>>148100541
This.

It's a lot more fun to see the characters just interact and have some fun in between the conflicts than to get some angst or romance drama.
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>>148122111
Not even Shino cares about whores anymore.
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>>148121294
it's because she's a catperson
kitten tend to hunt and eat random shit that moves
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>>148122354
>>148122111
Is Atra also getting pussy?
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>>148122643
Kudelia's.
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>>148122643
pic related
>>148096510
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>>148121352
I can see that happening. After Orga and his gang had kicked everyone's ass, they probably had people looked into their successes and found out that their ace pilot is Mika. After which, they went to Mars, found the craziest child there and started training him/her. To their complete surprise, it actually worked.
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>>148121037
Orga's wife
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>>148083679

>suddenly

Gaelio is the show's underdog.

It also doesn't help that he consistently keeps getting the best Gundam designs in the whole show too.
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>>148122634
We aren't sure yet, all the veteran members seems way more nature and serious, maybe next episode we can see a little more relaxed post battle interaction
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>>148087570

>Kudelia's AINA BERNSTEINS

Yep, they did her proud.
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>>148124077
>what sorta gundam do you want senpai?
>make it look JUST like the mask I wear
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>>148123131
I bet that musk smells nice
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>>148124189
Outside of the fan service they did with her, she is an awful character.
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>>148103680
Watch it. The second season isnt as good as the first but it's still good. The movie is innovative and wraps up the story line and themes from the show pretty well.
An all around good series.
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>>148124339

Pains me to say there are genuinely worse Gundam heroines.

Gundam 00's Marina is far duller than Kudelia.
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>>148124618
Marina was an intentional counterpart where she's called Poverty Princess for a reason and served as a foil and meter for Setsuna's humanization and development. Kudelia literally flip flops despite being a main character on everything she's supposed to do and her background contradicts her original origin point in the story.

Marina served a specific purpose and did it in 00. Unless you think every female is supposed to be like Relena or Lacus, no, no one quite compares to Kudelia's failings as a character.
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>>148124618
Marina was a side character in 00, Jew Hime is a main character in Tekketsu/IBO. Also never really found Marina bland but he's >>148124750 right that Kudelia sucks. Also remember, Marina was made to be the polar opposite of characters like Lacus since 00 followed after Seed and Seed-Destiny. Marina didn't have the power to change things or outside events beyond her, she was a figurehead in a 3rd world impoverished nation that was being used by the EU and AEU for their own profits with the solar energy from the orbital elevators.

The worst thing about watching Tekketsu was how she's introduced as this political force for change and its revealed in every episode after the start how she doesn't know jackshit about how bad Martians have it, or the human debris, or actual issues or the fact she's being manipulated by Gjallarhorn higher tiers. And she goes from one episode saying she's gonna change to the next one fucking up and being indecisive again, a cycle that never really stopped. And the Dorts arc which was supposed to be her own coming out was a huge fuck up and incredibly badly done.

I'd rank Kudelia pretty bad.
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>>148124750
Also as this anon said, Marina was simply a supporting character, Kudelia is always there and a main character in the show
>>
why did carta have to die when all 3 tekkadan sluts survived literally nobody like tekkadan and i cant wait until they lose
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>>148124976
Their big fuckup is coming. It'll be like Biscuit, but worse.
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>>148124976
Stop false-flagging, Choco.
>>
I don't get the point of Merrybutt's existence. All she did in S1 was complain about the kids being too edgy.
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>>148124976
I like Tekkadan. And I couldn't stand her retarded melodrama and cocklust after Macky. She gives women a bad name.
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>>148124976
sluts aren't tekkadan
>>148125038
> Orga fucks up
> bunch of orphans get eviscerated
> everyone hates him now

> HARD MODE: sluts die, aniki breaks up with him
> HELL MODE: one or more prominent named tekkadans from s1 also dies
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>>148081419
>mika might also be getting a prosthetic arm judging by the end of the op. Either way i really love this double edged sword plotpoint with the barbatos, it reminds me of fafner how the conflict itself was one sign of danger but the fact that the mechs killed you slowly was another factor. I hope like that series IBO starts playing with the idea that mika can only be in the barbatos for so long at a time.

I'm pretty sure barbatos only crippled him because Mika "asked" the system to give him a faster connection so he could keep up with ein's full body connection, not because he was starting to overuse the barbatos. I agree with your overall sentiment though, and it definitely seems like mika's going to ask for even more from Barbatos and lose his legs if the OP's foreshadowing is legit. I wonder who's a better candidate for the cause: Masked Man 2.0 or butterfly girl
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>>148125189
>And I couldn't stand her retarded melodrama
I think you're mixing her up a bit with Kudelia.
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>>148125248

Can someone link the OP? The video above is broken.
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>>148125248
>butterfly girl
She definitely doesn't look like someone who would end up being the strongest pilot in her squad.
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>>148125193
So do they chop off Orga's ahoge instead of a finger?
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>>148125141
Not sure really, audience proxy maybe? Also I thought she was going to get more focus judging by the PV2 she was the narrator there, right? But in the show it was Atra the one that ended up narrating, also in the promotional poster they hardly got space for her, poor woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8tHqYrzf34
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>>148081513
Wait did they really do that because of his popularity?

Fuck this author, zero fucking integrity.

D R O P P E D
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>>148126129
What do you think split cours are for, anon? Anime is dead.
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>>148125141
I'm pretty sure she was supposed to be a mother figure and the voice of reason telling Tekkadan to calm the fuck down, that throwing kids to their deaths would not avenge biscuit, and her plea would have been backed up by the death of important characters too. But the execs meddled, a bad end after a pyrrhic victory was no longer possible, so Merrybit lost her reason to be here.
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>>148125466
Not really. Carta's entire character revolves around her unrequited crush on Macky, drama which stems from that, and failed ambitions to play a significant role within structures of Gjallarhorn. She's from the most powerful family and yet she's virtually a nobody. The way she deals with her crush is pathetic and kind of creepy. She's a miserable, stupid, and incompetent christmas cake hopelessly obsessed with a man. She's a walking failure. It's like whoever came up with this character must've really hated women.
And she's so ugly she makes me gag.
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>>148126463
Does she still want the Mika or has she moved on to greener pastures?
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>>148126190
> telling Tekkadan to calm the fuck down
How elese were they going to complete their mission? Ask Gjallarhorn to let them drive in Edmonton really nicely?
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>>148126509

Seeing how she named her company after her dead maid, I doubt she's the easy to move on type.
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>>148126395
She was the comic relief that ends up hurting Tekkadan more than the angry dude who becomes gundam (just a graze actually)
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>>148126190
Good. Okada's plotting was dire enough without a mother nagging them all the way to Canada.
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>>148126509
Next episode will confirm, but I'm sure she is still into the manlet
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>>148126129
It was supposed to be Carta that survived to S2 but Okada killed her off instead
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>>148126640
She was never lusting after Mika. The kiss made her teenage hormones go wild for a bit, but Fumitan's death brought her out of it. Ever since then her feelings returned to the normal, partner-like. What a mood killer, that Fumitan.
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>>148126685
source?
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>>148126782
Okada interview, don't ask for exact source, nobody keeps track of these. I know it's legit though, fujo I follow on twitter who always makes these translations tweeted about it. Full story is she walked into staff meeting one morning and was like "I just killed Carta!" and the rest was like "Whaaat?!"
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>>148125141
>meribit was truly meant to represent the audience during the final arc, when she cried into her palms we were basically in her shoes
>It was indeed not wrong for meribit to question whether it was right for orga to send such young lives to deaths knowing nothing but war
>but it was also not wrong from the children's perspective since that's the only way they know how to live

From Okada and Nagai interview.
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>>148125189
>I liked Tekkadan.
Why? What's to like about them when almost none of them have any sort of personality?
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>>148127357
They have a cool logo.
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>>148127530
But its gay.
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>>148127357
Having a personality has never been important in Gundam. Personalities afflict many of the most annoying characters.
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>>148127619
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>>148127357
Are you retarded? Of course they have personalities. There's plenty of characterisation going on on Tekkadan side. Are you gonna tell me McGillis has a personality? That hollow husk of a exposition dispenser? Carta has a personality? The gimmick character? Gaelio "kill the space rats" Baduin has a personality? Good joke.
>>
>>148127357
Foxfags are delusional as their ugly foxfu.
>>
>>148127764
Who? Carta? Not a Cartafag.
>>148127682
What personality does Mikazuki have?
>>
>>148127584
It's better than the tacky Gjallarhorn uniforms, among the ugliest I've seen.
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>>148127642
Bait can still be true.
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>>148127764
You're ugly!
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>>148127859
Gjallarhorn being a shitty Titans/Zeon/Oz/A-Laws expy is true, uniform aesthetics included.

>>148127682
They really don't have much.

>obnoxious barafag Shino
>fuckboy blondy
>Not-Gutts who always will never be as good as Mika or Laftner
>Not-Graham whose there to be a light hearted foil for Orga
Only one with real personality was Biscuit.
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>>148127977
Fllay had personality and wasn't annoying. She acted like a normal teenager in Seed considering her father got killed before her, was forced to serve on the Archangel, gradually disregarded by Kira, and implied to be abused if not outright manipulated by Rau.

I bet you think Natarle was a bad character too, you fucking plebeian.

>>148127682
Not him but most of the main cast are pretty 1-dimensional and bland. When that's all there is to their "personality", its not much of one to speak of.
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>>148127994
>Only one with real personality was Biscuit.
>Fatass who is only there to be a voice of doubt.

I can do it too
>>
>>148127845
Intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humour
>>
>>148128128
>anxiety
>fear
>trepditation
>constantly second-guessing Orga and not being a spineless yes-man like Not-Graham or Mikazuki who has no will or mind of his own
You can shitpost but it won't change the reality Biscuit is the only real Tekkadan cast member with actual development.
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>>148127994
If you aren't shitposting you should rewatch the show, pay attention to the characters this time.
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>>148128156
>implying implications
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>>148128173
And in the end he always goes with whatever Orga decides anyway. Biscuit was the least interesting Tekkadan, whose childhood dream was to go to a supermarket. And he never got any development, what are you even talking about.
>>
>>148128220
>pay attention to the show
>not shitposting
What kind of balls do you have to have to tell anyone to pay attention to a garbage show like IBO?
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>>148128173
>You can shitpost but it won't change the reality Biscuit is the only real Tekkadan cast member with actual development.
>fatfags actually believe this

He was the exact same from start to finish, the "no this is a bad idea lets stop" guy who gets proven wrong every time
>>
>>148128276
Stick to G-Reco kid.
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>>148128220
Which part, faggot-kun, the 60% of the show where nothing happens, or the autistically awful Dorts and Space Debris arcs and that absolutely retarded ending?

>>148128297
>G-reco bait now
Try harder, little girl.
>>
Looks to me like you faggots are mixing depth and development with personalities. Most characters have personalities, but they aren't fleshed out.
>>
What did Biscuit even do?
>>
>>148128297
Are you really this booty blasted over G-Reco that you have to strawman it?

>>148128265
>>148128290
Wrong.

>fatfags
Again, what's with (You) and projecting with anyone who disagrees with you that someone has to be "X" fag to call out 95% of IBO's cast being awful characters?
>>
I can see this series ening with Orga being in charge of pushing Mika's wheelchair.

>Mika being paralyzed and unable to talk
>his eyes still pierce Orga's soul
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>>148128406
>he doesn't know about the "Stick to a bad mecha show" meme reply
Found the newfag.
>>
>>148128297
>G-Reco boogeyman
IBOfags truly are retards.
>>
>>148128491
Go back to your dead show, kid.
>>
>>148127357
>>148127619
>>148127845
>>148128173
pls miniwatermelon from reddit get out
>>
>/m/ is here
See you next thread, guys.
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>>148128467
>>148128514
>>148128521
Autism levels increasing huh?
>>
>>148128514
What show is that, faggot-kun?
>>148128521
But anon its you who is reddit tier here.
>>
>>148127357
fuck off D-Joe
>>
>>148128611
>>148128539
>>148128521
>>148128514
>>148128467
>>148128297
Sup Valvager
>>
>>148128611
Who?

>>148128514
Please stop breathing.
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>>148128658
Make me bitch.
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>>148128611
>D-Joe
who?
>>148128678
>average IBOfag is a fujo
not surprising desu
>>
>>148128386
whine the entire time Orga was right then die
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>>148128691
>wanting to fuck Takaki makes you a fujo
Try harder retard. Fuccbois are patrician taste.
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>>148128539
yep, well the thread was good while it lasted
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>>148128784
Yup while it lasted, see you guys in friday for the preview pictures
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>>148128539
>>148128784
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>>148128521
>miniwatermelon
macross?
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>>148128734
Shut up fagboy.
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>>148129323
I'll never get over how ugly everything was in SEED.
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>>148129564
>I'll never get over how ugly everything was in SEED.
Destiny was the worst mistake since ZZ.
>>
>>148119454
shes a tomboy
>>
>>148129564
Not really ugly due to character art style but more to do with that digital style Sunrise employed.
>>
I want to see Mika drive his Chainsaw Spear through Butterfly-chan's mecha while she screams in agony
>>
>>148130203
How edgy.
>>
>>148130689
Can't an edgelord have fun in peace?
No one complains when people enjoy SoL shows, so why can't I enjoy my edgefest shows in peace?

Now I've to rewatch Elfen Lied.
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>>148130689
soltard
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>>148130095
>style
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>>148124089
Shino is not drooling about girls anymore, recent radio show confirmed it.
>>
>>148131003
Did Yamagi win the Shinobowl for real?
>>
>>148131051
No idea, next episodes will show. Though ep 1 had a very strong Shino/Eugene vibe. Alas, Eugene only truly loves Orga.
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