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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://djt.neocities.org/

Previous Thread:>>147959835
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>>148000330
標準語はね...
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When reading I find that sometimes I'll come across lines I simply can't understand no matter how much I google it or read it over. Sometimes I'll come across large patches of these lines and be lost for a while. Should I just press on and just do my best to understand or maybe find something easier to read? I feel like I can't get better if I read only easy things but I also can't get better if I don't understand what I'm reading.
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is it okay to do both recognition and recall cards?
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http://magicofstella.com/onair/
Since when do they use 12 hour clock?
And of course it's fucking wrong
>TOKYO MX 10月 4日 より毎週 火曜日 深夜0:30~
>It's actually 0:30 on the 5th
http://s.mxtv.jp/anime/magicofstella/
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>>148000729
Is this New Game S2?
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>>148000729
Starting on the 4th, every week, tuesday, at night, until 30 after midnight.
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>>148000848
At least that's the kind of logic for going over midnight that they wrote that with.
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>>148000729
>火曜日 深夜
This part makes it clear. 12 hour clock wouldn't matter because it's post-midnight. Normally the japs write that as 24:30 though which is pretty convenient. I don't know why they didn't do that here, but that's what they mean.
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>>148000729
it's international tv scheduling jargon

"morning" of the 4th always refers to things that happen near when it turned to the 4th, and "night" of the 4th always refers to things that happened increasingly far away from when it became the 4th.
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>>148000623
Recall cards are pointless. All you need to do is read.
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>>148001491
but i want to be able to produce a kanji from memory, and not just recognize it. otherwise, i wouldn't be doing a kanji deck at all
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皆様こにちは。このスレを崩しに来ました。主命は...なんだっけ...どれどれ...
1. 人を釣る
2. クオリティを最小限まで引き下げる
3. 「imouto」を 持ち帰る
恨みはないが、これは主命だ。すまん
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>mfw Kajita ganbaruzoi'd on Anigera
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>>148001491
>read
replace that with "watch anime" and you'll be closer to the truth
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>>148000415
Are you looking at explanations and definitions in Japanese? You probably aren't googling properly. Find somebody for help and keep reading in the meanwhile.
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>>148001632
I thought you were talking about vocab. In that case, recognition cards are probably pointless. I only did recall kanji cards and can almost always recognize the meaning.
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>>148001672
おもちかえりはちょっと

イケメンにかぎる
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>真里亜
>Maria
Oh Japan
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俺のワイフの言語がこんなに難しいわけがない
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>>148002175
>not 魔鯉悪
Is there some better り for this?
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>>148002527
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>tfw coming to the realization that the time where you use anime purely to relax needs to be temporarily over until listening skills have improved exponentially

Listening to radio shows in the background just doesn't cut it.
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>ようこそ、4chanへ!
>4chanは、日本の有名な「ふたばちゃんねる」の非公式姉妹サイトになることを目的に設立されました。もちろん、ふたばちゃんねるの座を乗っ取ろうというわけではありませんが・・・日本と同じような掲示板群を、英語で作りあげようとしているのです。完成までは長くて険しいけれど、みんなの協力があるときっと良いコミュニティ・文化ができると思います。
>4chanは誰でも気軽に参加できます。しかし、このサイトでの争いごとはやめてください。争いはみんなの雰囲気を悪くするだけです。それさえ守っていただけるならば是非友達に教えてあげてください。日本人も英語を使うならば同じようにに歓迎します。
>このサイトはまだ建設中なので、不完全ですが、我慢してください。サイトを改善するための提案を是非mootにメールで送ってください。
>それでは、ゆっくり楽しんでいってください!

>moot
誰?
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>>148003292
>he STILL hasn't been redpilled on hiroyuki
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>>148003292
昔々の戦士
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You can't learn Japanese.

4chan Pass user since September 2012.
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>>148003426
これを消せ
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>Persona 5 letting me guess the history behind the word 確信犯 by telling me how it's used today and that it was originally used backwards.
That was fun. Let's see if the anons of DJT also know the original meaning with that as a hint.
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>>148003426
Someone needs to assassinate that man
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>>148003426
>4chan Pass user since September 2012.
I seriously hope this is some temporary troll
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>やんなっちゃう
>嫌になってしまう、の意味

>>148003426
Every time
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>>148003495
My best guess would be crime carried out by a person who thought they were in the right.
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>>148003426
>4chan Pass user since September 2012.
How long has this been a thing?
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>>148003612
正解だ
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>>148003732
喜びます
How's P5, btw?
>tfw broke as fuck and not 上手 enough to play it
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>>148003521
Nope, this is here to stay, and just the first step.
(you) counter, mandatory logging, hate speech, post likes, so many new features will come.

Recently, posts you make have begun to be tracked locally, check your local storage for 4chan. I don't know for what purpose, but it can't be good.
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>>148003813
>hate speech
Laugh at this nigger.

4chan Pass user since September 2012.
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>>148003836
なさけない...
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>>148003790
I'm like 14 hours in and still haven't finished the first dungeon because there's just so much to do. And no stupid randomized rooms.

The Japanese used honestly isn't that hard for the most part.
The beginning is a bit slow as it eases you into the game, but as soon as you have control over your day the game starts to be really fun.

Story/Characters are okay so far.
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>>148000796
No, it's a prequel about Shizuku before she became a lesbian cougar.
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>>148003954
Have you played P3 and 4? If so, how does it compare?
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>>148003292

Why is he telling people to mail a dead man?
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>>148003790
>喜びます
Quaint, but the correct way to say this is
やったー
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>>148004536
I played P4 but stopped because it got too boring.
I have to say this one is miles ahead in everything it does. Most importantly it feels like every moment of the game is well thought out.

I got bored to death with the social links in 4 because nothing that happened ever seemed to really matter.
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>cirno (ちるの) means "to die a noble death" this whole time
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>>148005501
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>>147960004

How the FUCK do import the .ass file into the video while in subtitle edit?
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>>148006666
into the video player in subedit or your player?
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>>148006861

Into the video file itself. I can open both the video's original sub lines and the .ass, but I have no idea how to apply the subs in the .ass to the lines in the video file.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ2bK_jqzP4
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>>148007212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQGvlemqUpE
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>>148007212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jUj8mDMuDA
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>>148007128
in mpc i just hit ctrl L to find the sub file or in zoomplayer alt s
no need to mux it into the file directly
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>>148006861

where do I go from here?
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>>148008157

maybe I should have brought up my intention was to layer both English and Nip subs one on top of eachother.
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>>148002175
It's really a blessing that Japan collectively looks down upon DQN names. Imagine the crazy shit that would be happening if Japan shared our western value of "EVERY CHILD IS A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE".
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Where to watch Japanese tv online?
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二八十一(にくく)
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>>148008377
open the show in player, open the nip subs in that player, wait till someone says shit, count the seconds til that shows up(or if it appeared earlier)
then import the nip sub file into edit, hit ctrl shift a, change the times
save the file, and you win

>>148008541
well then my intention is only to provide nip subs that are synced, anything else is up to you
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>>148009028
>save the file, and you win
Except you'll have to do it like 5 times every time the raw skips a commercial slot.
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>>148009028
>>148008157
>>148006861

Oh shit I got it to work. Thanks for the help, friends.
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出る
出でる
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>>148009250
if you have a better option thats not animelon im all ears
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http://original.livestream.com/varappisl8nightbasementofcrr3am32485?t=263634

im streaming hentai, anyone want to come?

...its listening practice...
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>>148009680
>anyone want to come?
I guess so, I haven't came in a while.
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>>148008616
旋律がメロディーで

和音はハーモニーね

リズムはあんまりつかわれないけど律動っていうんだって
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>>148010278
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>>147999600
>>147999775
When I search for "font" I only get :
> " position: absolute; font: 700 .67em/1.25em Arial;
and
>self.html += "<span style=\"font-size: 3em;color: #888;\">Kanji Grid - %s</span><br>\n" % deckname
as lines containing it.

If I swap the first one for meiryo it does nothing, I still get the shitty default Kanji Grid font. That shit pisses me off.
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>>148010426
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoAao84Yetc
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>>148000729
>And of course it's fucking wrong
Yet another example of someone with a few weeks, maybe a few months of study under their belt, telling natives and professionals how they are wrong.

Hilarious. It couldn't possibly be that you don't understand as much as you think you do. No, certainly not. Language acquisition: a humbling experience.
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>>148010586
>>self.html += "<span style=\"font-size: 3em;color: #888;\">Kanji Grid - %s</span><br>\n" % deckname
The line I changed should be only 3 lines below that.
>self.html += "<style type=\"text/css\">table {font-size:16px; font-family:meiryo;}" + \
"font-family:meiryo" is the relevant part.
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>>148010586
>>148010649
Also, this is the one I'm using: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/942570791
Maybe you have a different version.
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>>148010426
鼓動はビートだよおにいちゃん

でもふつうは

フォービート・エイトビート
・じゅうろくビート(混ぜちゃったテヘペロ)

って、カナ書きするよ
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>>148010718
That would explain it since I don't have any "font-family" line in my code. Interesting, thanks.

>- The grid is generated from all decks as the source, not just the currently selected one. It's global.
Is there still a way to display only one deck or is it always global? I have two decks, a Kanji and a Vocab one, having them both displayed would be pointless in my case.
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>>148010763
いもうとって
将来音楽家になりたいかい?
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>>148010793
You can choose what field to search for, it selects "kanji" by default. In your case, if you have the vocab field on your vocab deck set to "vocabulary" and the kanji field on your kanji deck set to "kanji", I believe it'll produce a grid solely from your kanji deck.
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>>148010880
Gotcha, well I'll try by myself.
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>>148008616
>Imagine the crazy shit that would be happening if Japan shared our western value of "EVERY CHILD IS A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE".
Yeah, about that.
http://dqname.jp/
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The guide in OP says you can start to learn grammar with Tae Kim's site. He doesn't go over nouns/verbs and some other stuff in his grammar section, but in the "complete guide" section. Should I go back and read all the stuff included there before delving too far into the actual grammar section? He keeps referring to stuff covered back then.
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>>148011099
his complete guide is incomplete and badly structured
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>>148011099
You just need to concern yourself with http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar
ignore the rest.
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>>148011099
He does cover verbs, and nouns are pretty self-explanatory. Just read the Grammar Guide from cover to cover.
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How do I get good at listening. I can't understand 80% of variety shows
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>>148011414
Keep trying till it gets easier
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>>148011414
Can you at least understand GCCX or Tokyo Encounter?
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>>148011414

Listen, listen, and listen some more.

Unless your vocabulary is shit (say, sub-6k). Then you need to work on that a bit first.
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>>148011414
listen more
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>>148010981
>http://dqname.jp/index.php?md=view&c=yu182
Makes me want to believe people who submit to the site are bullshitting.
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I'm running out of steam boys. Requesting immediate anti-dekinai support.... PLEASE.
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>>148011957
>>148012051
Ok, I'll try to watch stuff every day then

>>148011986
I don't know, I've never watched them.

>>148012049
Alright. I have about 4k words in anki and maybe a bit more from just reading and stuff but I'm working on that too
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>>148012457
If you can read this then keep going
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>>148012457
頑張ってください
または出来ないちゃんを勝たせるよ
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>>148012625
pretty much what I did till listening just started working.
Now my listening is better than my reading ability I would say
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>>148012653
why are you posting chinese in a japanese thread?
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>>148012739
It's not Chinese?
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>>148010829
けんこうになりたい
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>>148003836
>4chan Pass user since September 2012.

What yhe fuck is this
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>>148012715
Alright. I always thought I would just need to read heaps and get good at reading before I'd really improve at listening. I'll try and listen to heaps of stuff. I can already understand anime and drama tier really clear speaking but normal people talking is really difficult for me
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>>148012942
http://nyaa.se/

Have fun m8
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>>148012942
In order to find answers on DJT you must first answer a Japanese riddle:
>パンはパンでも食べられないパンは、なぁに?
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>>148013011
>>148013016
god damnit. Hasn't anyone ever told you you're supposed to mess with people before answering their questions?

It's like an unwritten rule of the internet.
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>>148012942
animebytes
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>>148013016
パンツ?
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Oh jetski!

(means "Calm down" in Japanese)
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>>148013774
oh tits kick
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>>148012457
You can do it! All you have to do is switch to mandarin and you will succeed
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>>148013016
サイパン
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>>148014303
I'm going to do this once I'm N1.
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Todays usefull japanese.

失礼。部長がうんこを漏らしたので、会議の続きはまた後日にお願いします。
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>>148014545
うんこ食べたらいいんじゃない。食べたら会議を続けられるんじゃない
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>>148014545
それならあたし帰るわ 
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>pass the 2k mark in core
>nice man and woman in the voiceovers get replaced by some sly-sounding motherfucker
guys i don't know how to cope with this, the original voices were like family to me
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>>148014615
退屈な会議を行儀よく終わらせるとき使います
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>>148014716
I know exactly how you feel. You'll get used to it, the new guy is pretty based.
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>>148014716
This is the part where you switch to a mining deck
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>>148014303
>not korean before mandrin
Dont you want to segway your way into another language?
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>>148014303
>800 cards in 70 minutes
what the fucking shit
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>>148000330
Fair enough.
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>>148015158
That doesn't include my sentence listening deck. I promise I'm not that lazy.
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>>148015387
Can you fuck off to /int/ with your chinese shit already
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>>148015422
This entire thread belongs on either /int/ or /jp/.
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>>148015422
But the daily anki thread is here. Just take it as motivation to 頑張る more. Also hopefully in 3 weeks I'll be purely mining and my reps will start falling, so I won't feel the need to shitpost to counteract the void brought on by two hours of anki.

>>148015094
neah gotta go from most difficult to least
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>>148015548
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>>148015548
Have you got diarrhea? There's shit smeared all over your post.
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>>148015548
大丈夫?うんこ漏らした?
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>>148015664
Weak
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>>148015548
Mined.
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>>148015422

Talking about your general language learning exploits is okay, I think. These are basically a support community for Japanese learners to relax in, and there are bound to be people who are studying more than one language. It can have relevance in regards to the general language learning process, too. Just so long as it doesn't become an overwhelming staple in the threads, to the point where it's basically DJMGRST (and don't you dare get one of those letters wrong, shitlord): Daily Japanese, Mandarin, German, Russian, and Spanish Thread. In that case, it would be time to ban those particular topics.

I'd say that actually posting in Chinese is kinda passing the limit in contexts where the contents of what's being talked about aren't obvious without a shred of Chinese knowledge, though. Entering a community where the residents speak in a particular language and posting in foreign tongues that most people in the community don't understand is intrusive and exclusionary towards the members of that community. It's only natural that they would get irritated.
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>>148015889

>cuck
>not operating off of a double standards where the only people who are capable of intrusion are westerners, westerners can't be excluded unless they're gay or female, and where open minded means blindly siding against westerners in all scenarios

Hardly. A cuck would chew me out for suggesting that someone shouldn't just wander onto an English board and start posting in Chinese. They'd focus on the fact that the Chinese were being excluded, and angrily reject the idea that the Chinese were actually excluding the board's natives with their behavior.

The contents of that post are pretty critical of multiculturalism.
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>>148016008
Hi reddo
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>>148016008
ESLs, when will they learn?
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いつもげんきな

おにいちゃんにしつもんがあります

爪はどうしてのびるのですか
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>>148016116
背中をかくのためでは
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I got this Botnet's IME. 幸運を祈ってね!
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>>148015548
that's odd where's the kana
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I WANT A JAPANESE WIFE!!!!!!!!!!! How do I into gaijin husband mode?
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What meaning this sentence?
>まいてはいけないアリス
Do not seeded Alice?
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>>148016116
アレだよアレ
実は生まれた時から何十メートルの爪が巻かれた形で体内に詰まってるけど
歳を取るとその爪が徐々に体から漏れてくる

名学の研究かなんかによると150歳まで生きたら体の爪が尽きてしまって爪が全部体から出て落ちていくそうだ
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>>148016250
巻く:wind
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>>148016080

Being an ESL is fine.

Migrating to an English-speaking country and not becoming an ESL is where the problem comes in. I also have a problem with the ones who hole themselves up in ethnic communities. It's especially ironic that the ones who defend it claim that they're being inclusive, when they're actually just creating pockets that are cut-off from the communities around them by language and cultural barriers, perhaps even to a point where they initiate hostilities. If you're pro-inclusion, logically, you must be pro-assimilation on some topics.

Of course, this also goes for the gaijin bar crowd.
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Post hanzi grids
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>>148016249
Have an accent when talking and also throw in some english.
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>>148016283
Not windy Alice? Lol, silly.
は in nai-form meaning "Not"?
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>>148016321
>~1600
did you just finish core2k or something
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>>148016333
Wow, this is gonna be easier than I thought then.
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>>148016372
There's a lot of words that use the same kanji anon
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>>148013745
好きな子のパンツは食べたいですけど。
せめてクンクンしたい。
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>>148016403
looking closer it's probly mined but i just remembered someone saying core2k was about that much
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>>148016475
I don't know. This grid is from core and my mined deck which is about 2k from core and 2k mined
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>>148016249
Learn enough 日本語 to make a nice tinder profile, then go to japan and bang cakes until marriage
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>>148016475
Good memory, anon. I just finished 2k and it gave me 1608.
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>>148016139
ひとに掻いてもらえばいいのに

>>148016256
おちがよわいってわかってたよね
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>>148016249
Ask your dick.
Gaijin plus muscle body is the easiest way.
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>>148017395
I already got this. I mean, I'm still small but I'm probably more muscular than 95% of Japanese males 'cause they are really DYEL. I'm average looking as fuck though and only got a few years until shaving my head is my only option. Also I'm here so I'm obviously autistic too.
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>>148013016
フライパン
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Easy way to get japanese wife.
1. watch anime
2. watch more anime
3. read many ... and so many manga
4. trip to japan
5. jump into the sky from the top of tokyo skytree
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I feel like I'm wasting my time watching all these variety shows when I can't understand and get lost so much I can't follow it well
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>>148017706
とあるレールパン
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There are days where I feel like dropping anki forever and just continue reading the things I like without having to ever do a single rep ever again... It's quite tempting, but if I end up regretting it, heading back into thousands of reps would be a torture.
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>>148015866
Not him but I have a problem with Chinese-kun posting about his Hanzi or Chinese shit every thread or so. If it were to be once or twice a month maybe I'd be ok with it but recently it's been too much. He's always trying to sneak in to show off his "exploits" in order raffle (You)s.

Fuck off with your Chinese shit already.
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fuck studying, fuck this language
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英語の聴き取り練習してたんだか。何度聴いても「仮面ライダー」としか聴こえなくて、そんなハズは無い"come in"かなにかに違いないと思って1日中何度も何度も聞き直したんだが。
本当に「仮面ライダー」って言ってるだけだった。なに?このクソ言語。
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>>148019354
You can learn Korean.
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>>148019462
for what reason
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>>148018882
Well I don't support imouto either, anon, same for that other shit I won't name, but what am I supposed to do? Giving attention is making things worse, and reporting these posts by myself only ends up getting myself warned. Don't lash out on me.
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過疎ってるな
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自ら

how common is mizukara vs onozukara
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>>148019859
みずから
は人に対して使う。

おのずから
は物や事象に対して使う
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>>148019965
you can't use onozukara when it's about a 人 ? if not, why not? you can use "naturally, as a matter of course" when talking about people in english, like: "Naturally he did as I ordered him, as I am his boss."
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>>148019859
自ら
自ずから

>>148020080
Not like that, read the definition for 自ずから.
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>>148014716
>guys i don't know how to cope with this, the original voices were like family to me
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>>148020202
ローマ字の方見てて誤字に気づかんかったわ
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いなかのマルビは

どうにもならないのかな
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>>148010647
Kill yourself you fucking retard.
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Whats the counter for packets of things? Like a packet of chips or something?
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>>148012210
As a German, this name makes me a little happy
http://dqname.jp/index.php?md=view&c=ka1801
...but that poor child. He is probably going to hate everything German for the rest of his life.
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>>148000729

>Since when do they use 12 hour clock?

Since pretty fucking often? 午前/午後HH時MM分 is pretty common.
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>>148022220
For telling the time, sure.

If you look at a TV schedule it's probably going to be a 24 hour one though.
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>>148022295
On TV they use a 26 hour schedule.

I often see announcements with "The show will re-air at ~25:30" etc.
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姉 again. I know what it means. I know how to read it. But I always miss it. Every fucking time. I hate this language.

女 is woman. Makes sense, my sister is a woman. We live under the same roof, hence the 亠. It looks like roof. But the fucking 巾. The fucking balaclava.

I get it now. Because your older sister is a fucking psycho. She always looks at you and goes "Hey, anon, learning gook again? What the fuck is wrong with you? Reading porn again? Why don't you have a job? You pathetic faggot."

I hate this language.
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>>148023140
No no, it's "woman / penis in vagina".
Which obviously means your sister.
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>>148023140
That's lid, not roof. Roof is the one with little brackets going down the side.
For me though I find it easier to just think of that side as a scarf with a 1 through it, as in "one scarf"
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>>148023140
亠+巾=市
市=Market.

Oneechan is the one going to the market to buy grocery.
Or, oneechan is the one working at the market to support us.

That's how I learned it years ago and never had any problem with this Kanji whatsoever.
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>>148023140
Dont blame the language blame yourself for being a retard
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てくる is pretty cool, man. Hope she explains ていく soon
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>>148023140
>>148023419 (me)
To spoonfeed so more :
亠 = roof
巾 = balaclava if you want to call it as such.
In a market, stalls are roofed with balaclava. Thus a market.
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>>148023140
Dude, let me help you out.
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>>148023140
>mnemonics
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>>148024149
Have fun not being to learn and differentiate anything outside of moege vocab.
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>>
ここ
個々

Literally indistinguishable in spoken Japanese.
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>>148023505
Thanks!
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>>148023140
Does anyone here make their own mnemonics independent of English or any other language here?

Mixing languages really messes with my memory.
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>>148024294
Yeah. Sometimes I use German.
But it depends on how the word sounds.

For example かく sounds like German "kack" (shit) so I'm basically forced to use that as mnemonic material.
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>>148024294
ESL here.

If you don't know English to the point of "thinking" in English, do it in your own language.

If you do think in English, it won't matter, because the mnemonic will contain concepts instead of words, so you'll learn it either way.
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>>148024187
>needing mnemonics to memorize kanji
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>>148024252
ひっ久しぶりだな..

>>148024255
それで日本語は大嫌いなんだ 
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>>148024416
Let us see your grids.
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>>148024461
>deck stuffed with hiragana
>grids
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>>148024255
こ↑こ↓

>≪niconico slang≫ asshole
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I am writing 5 kanjis 50 times each day.
Please praise me or use light insults.
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>>148024567
People are lazy, can't rely on emphasis in speech.
Also, mood influences how things are pronounced.
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>>148024828
Inefficient. You'd better do something like RTK and learn how Kanji are made up. If you do that you won't need to write every single one so many times. I'm at 2550 Kanji or so at the moment and I simply need to glance at a new one and write it 5 times or so now by now. I actually force myself to write although it's become unnecessary for me now.
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帰りが遅いんじゃないですか?いったい何をしていた、あの場所では?
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>>148024831
>People are lazy, can't rely on emphasis in speech.
Well, then how do you think people in Japan keep 橋 and 箸 apart?
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>>148025149
Mostly context.
I know about the theory behind intonation but even a Japanese person's brain doesn't rely just on that in practice.

Whenever we had intonation classes in school everyone just messed it up as they pleased aside from the teacher who over emphasized everything.
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>ywn know pitch accent
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今日は10月2日でトーフの日らしいので、晩御飯はお豆腐だけ食べた
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Why is Anki literally the worst thing in the universe
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>>148025405
I know
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What did she mean by this?
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>>148024828
At that rate it will take you a year and a half to even cover the 常用漢字. RTK is popular for a reason, I would suggest using it or another radical based learning program. The 2200 common ones can be learned in about 4 months if you go at a fairly moderate pace.even stretching it out to a slow easy pace of 6 months is still going to be way faster than what your doing now.
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>>148025405
Because its too useful
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>>148025455
She's was just piiing in the toilet, duh.
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>>148025455
ピー = オナニー
I'd guess.
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>>148016475
I stopped at 2000 words in the Core 2k/6k Optimized Japanese Vocabulary deck.
Coloured are in 2k uncoloured are in 6k
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>>148025455
It's ピー as in the peep sound when something get's censored.
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>>148025505
Makes sense.

>>148025518
You're going overboard anon, it's a little girl.
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>>148025455
ピー = pee
You can tell that it's English because it's in Katakana.
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>>148000415
It's true that you want to read somewhat challenging things to improve (i+1) but that doesn't mean you have to understand 100% of everything you read. You also have to consider the opportunity cost of spending hours deciphering a single sentence.
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>>148025465
Not sure it's worth the usefulness when the price is being in pure agonising hell for an hour every single day for several years
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>>148025554
About 1000 kanji in the 2000 most used words in newspapers and 1608 in the 6000 most used words in newspapers
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>>148025640
Only an hour? Do you even study?
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>>148025587
So she peed on her pantsu? That's pretty gross.
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>>148025587
>>148025559
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>>148016321
Ordered by score.
It seems the Kanji I know best is 妹 <3
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>>148025559
>>148025518
These guys know the truth
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When's the best time to use the "review forgotten cards" function in Anki?
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All this dedication to learn one of most difficult languages, moreover with getting solid results, be proud of yourselves /a/nons.
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にほんじんteenのやく

よにんに

ひとりが

suicideをかんがえたことがある

にほんのとうけい
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>>148025725
When you're close to suicide.
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>>148025559
>>148025518
>>148025709
You sicken me.
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>>148025769
Unfortunately, I seldom get motivated to do anything else in life, not even uni assignments and shit
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>>148025455
Is this KinMoza?
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>>148025849
Yes. Latest chapter. It's a ecchi manga now.
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>>148025944
Thought it was an ero-doujinshi, talking about being aroused, probably masturbation, 賢者状態 and walking around with wet pantsu.
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>>148025769
Is Japanese really one of the hardest languages?
The Kanji is a bitch though, more so than Hanzi is.
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>>148026044
For native english speakers, yes.
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>>148026032
I'm messing with you. It's one of the official 女子小学生はじめました doujins.

Speaking of which I just finished reading all of them so now I'm sad.
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>>148026044
It is cheapened a bit by people who claim whatever language they are learning is the hardest but Japanese is probably the hardest language for English speakers to learn.
I feel so smug when people say Spanish German etc is the hardest language ever
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>>148026196
It feels weird when you think about how if you spent the time you spent learning Japanese into Spanish or Italian or even German, you'd be completely fluent by now.
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>>148026175
>女子小学生はじめました
Looks fun
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>>148026268
http://www.effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-difficulty
According to this you can learn German, French and Spanish faster than just Japanese.
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>>148026328
Yeah funny because I hadn't noticed #6 was uploaded. I'm about to start reading it now.

I strongly recommend you to read the manga first though, otherwise you won't get understand the inside jokes from the doujins. Doujins are also meant to be read in order.

You can read it here :
seiga.nicovideo.jp/comic/3770
Vol. 1 is available over nyaa with better art and a bonus chapter. I'd recommend picking it up and then continue reading on niconico.
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>>148013774
did you just curse at me in russian
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>>148000330
>>>/qa/706294
お誕生日おめでとう、4ちゃん
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>>148026896
Jackie Chan is such a troll.
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>>148026896
>Winter is coming
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>>148026896
>>148027025
He could just start accepting donations as some of them have proposed. I'm sure there are many people browsing 4chan with too much money that'd love to help.

Look at websites like reddit or wikipedia, they live off that and no one is complaining since it's not mandatory.
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>>148026896
4chan閉鎖希望中
>Adblock user since 2006.
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>>148017969
I feel like that while already being over a thousand reps behind. But then I remember how trapped I felt before I started mining, as I'd be looking up the same words over and over again and feel like I was running in place, not progressing at all, since I couldn't make new vocabulary stick. Mining is actually kinda liberating, it lets you just put aside new vocabulary, with confidence that you'll be able to learn it later, so you can just focus completely on reading instead of worrying about remembering the new words along the way.

Still fucking hate Anki and wish I could spend more time on reading instead of the hours each week that go into Anki, but I'm starting to find some motivation in realizing that I can just read more to make Anki easier.
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4chanがなくなたらどこでクソみたいな英語を学べますか?
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Have you guys seen the new Steve? It's in Nihongo des!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj_uprWk0Sg

How much can you understand?
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>>148027410
>わたくし
muh dick
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>>148027410
He's wasting time learning korean, a language only spoken in a country where porn is banned
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>>148027352
Yeah you're right, that's why I'm hanging in here, anon. I still even have cards I mined I haven't gotten to study yet but I'll continue until I caught up on everything.
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>>148026896
The original parts of this site are hated by more users than not it seems
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せっかく愛とお金をあげたのに、どうしてキスくれないんだ?
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>a jap is the one that will end up killing djt
very ironic i like it
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>股旅

Wat?
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What does the XもXだけど grammar structure mean? Can't find any page explaining it. E.g. 部長も部長だけど
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>>148027410
I don't like his pronunciation
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>>148027410
Is it just me or is he throwing in random こ's all over the place? Is it some sort of えっと alternative?
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>>148029189
>股旅(またたび)
> 博徒 (ばくと) ・芸人などが諸国を股にかけて旅をして歩くこと。
なるほど
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>>148026896
If we all die I just want to thank you all for giving me something to do with my life other than just watching anime
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We all know introductory Japanese classes are shit, but what about advanced ones? It seems like it will give me a lot of speaking and production practice with a native speaker
I could easily minor in Japanese as well, but I have no reason to since I'm a physics major.
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>>148026896
>4256 posts in under 3 hours
With the vast majority of those posts being /pol/tards competing to see who can be the most retarded in front of their new glorious leader.
Jesus, what a clusterfuck.
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>>148030383
You're better off paying a personal tutor than taking classes. If you must take a class, take one with a very small class size.
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>>148030824
Makes sense. Maybe at least I can test out of the introductory classes and not have to take foreign language as a general elective.
No idea what the class size is though. Perhaps at that level all the weebs were weeded out already and only a small handful remain. Structured production practice would be really nice.
>>
Question to the more advanced learners:
Are you using japanese for things other than pure entertainment? For example doing translation work, academic learning or hobbies (calligraphy or whatever)
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>>148031319
I talk to cute nips on HelloTalk
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>>148031319
>pure entertainment
>or hobbies
???
>>
Hello DJT, I'm trying to practice my Katakana and Hiragana before I take on properly studying Japanese. So far I'm finding the skill useful for accurately reading Nihongo dictionaries.

My question is, how does one tell the difference between ふ (hu) and ふ (fu) ? This one trips me up constantly.
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>>148031231
If you want structured production, get a tutor. Most classes will do a bit of each, and larger classes mean less individual attention, which means more "just read genki".

A tutor is really your best bet, and can be relatively cheap. Lots of old Japanese ladies who just want to earn some pocket money.
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>>148031401
They're the same. The pronunciation is somewhere in between.
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>>148031319
I translate manga with a scanlation group.
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Hi. I'm someone between n4-n5 (know about 300 kanji from kklc, had read DBJG/genki 1 equivalent textbook). As what anons suggested here, it's time for me to start reading something - so I've tried taking the one I'm most interested in ATM, which is re:zero LN, and I'm pretty overwhelmed because I almost have to lookup something every sentences. I know this may be pretty normal, but would you rather suggest me to read manga or VN first, instead of LN?
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>>148031542
That's normal until you know 40.000~ words, doesn't matter what you read.
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>>148031538
How do I into scanlation group?
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>>148031386
Did you have meaningful and/or enjoyable discussions? Other than "where do you come from? tokyo suteki desu ne"
>>
>Start anki
>20 reviews? Oh this is easy
>50 reviews? Time to crack down
>80 reviews? Uhh
>110 reviews.

Send help.
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>>148031601
Become できる and either apply to an existing one that's looking for translators or find a typesetter and start your own.
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>>148027093
But Japanese aren't fond of donations.
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>>148031542
Re:Zero is not an easy LN and most LNs are very difficult for a beginner.
Just start with manga
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>>148031753
I once told someone that Trump sucked and he's a political embarrassment.
Also fuck Tokyo.
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>>148031776
How do I find scan groups looking for translators? Where do they even gather?

Do you plan on moving onto paid translating positions at some point?
>>
Guys do you know a kanji with a MFM-characters threesome lookalike?

What does it means?
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>>148026196
>>148026268

I took a break from Japanese for a bit to learn French and German at the same time a bit ago.

It is fucking insane how much farther I got in those two in the span of a few months. Latin based languages are easy mode.
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>>148032042
嬲?
http://jisho.org/search/%E5%AC%B2%20%23kanji
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>>148031836
>japanese aren't fond of public donations

fify
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>>148031592
>>148031862
thanks for both of your input. I'll try to hang in there for a while, and will fall back to manga if I couldn't take it anymore.
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>>148031868
>How do I find scan groups looking for translators? Where do they even gather?
Check their websites and IRC channels. Many that are looking for volunteers will also put help wanted ads in their releases. Websites like Batoto and Mangaupdates have databases of active groups that you can check.

>Do you plan on moving onto paid translating positions at some point?
It would be nice to be able to do so one day.
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>>148032089
Thanks
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>>148032101
>and will fall back to manga if I couldn't take it anymore
With only a few hundred kanji under your belt and an assumed level of around n4-n5, even manga is going to seem like murder for a fairly long time.
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>>148032101
If you want to go kamikaze, take a LN in text format and use rikaichan to help you.

If you try to read scans, you are setting yourself for failure 100%
>>
I sometimes get lazy and skip over lines that I only somewhat understood, is that bad or will it store itself into my subconscious so the next time I see a line like that I get it quicker?
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>>148032553
>I sometimes get lazy and skip over lines that I only somewhat understood
People do it all the time in their native language.
>is that bad or will it store itself into my subconscious so the next time I see a line like that I get it quicker?
Come again?
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>>148032253
T.T

>>148032257
I read the LN in a epub reader, so if I want to lookup some kanji, I have to use e-jisho (研究社) or ichi.moe for breaking down the sentences. For new (compound) kanji/vocab, I take a note manually. I read somewhere that rikai + importing plug-in might ease the process. So I'm considering the html/text version.

It seems that reading children story/manga might be what's suitable for me ATM.
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Have you been practicing your stroke order, DJT?
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>>148032737
I only know one stroke order and that's back and forth.
Do it everyday, sometimes twice.
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>>148032617
I mean, will I ever learn lines like that if I fall into the habit of skipping them? Or will it eventually become easier for me to get even though I'm skipping them (subconsciously) just by seeing them a lot?
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>>148029478
Anyone?
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>>148032737
Multiple times a day: one stroke up, one stroke down, repeat with increasing intensity for a few minutes until the shame, anxiety and desire to disappear washes back over.
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>>148032737
>pic
Stroke order helps shit when it comes to 草書, even for 行書 it's not THAT useful
Japs have tables showing the cursive forms for radicals and stuff
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Hello
Why まいてはいけないローゼンメイデン translate as "The Rozen Maiden That Should Not Have Existed"?
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>>148033121
Look up the meanings for まく and use your brain.
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>>148029478
Post the full sentence.
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>>148033121
>いけないローゼンメイデン
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>>148032831
>I mean, will I ever learn lines like that if I fall into the habit of skipping them?
Are you trying to memorise a play or something?
>Or will it eventually become easier for me to get even though I'm skipping them (subconsciously) just by seeing them a lot?
Well you're likely going to see most of those words used in dozens of different contexts, thousands upon thousands of times over the next few years. If you're that worried, look into extensive reading and intensive reading.
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What are your designated no-subs anime this season?
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>>148033282
>まく
There are many meanings of this word
>>148033417
"exist" signify wound-up?
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>>148033282
So you have no idea but decides to be spitefully passive aggressive for no apparent reason?
Kind of strange but I guess autism is one hell of a drug.
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>>148033359

>極道とか平然と言ってしまう部長も部長だけど、平然としてる俺も俺だ。何度か部室に居るのを目撃していたらきっとパニクっていたに違いないだろうしな。

http://ncode.syosetu.com/n0199k/21/

>>148033590

And which would apply for a rozen maiden?

まく isn't literally exist in Japanese but there's >>148033417 or possibly 'sow' as in those gems that get inserted in them or whatever.
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>>148033657

>I'm too lazy to check a dictionary please spoonfeed and rape my face

Open wide for the spoon anyway I guess as I already fed you here >>148033701
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>>148033590
It's not a literal, 1 to 1 translation.
Here's one:
The Rozen Maiden that must not be wound-up (=should not be alive = should not have existed)
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>>148033121
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozen_Maiden#Characters
>Two anthology series were created based on the second series. The first is Rozen Maiden Dolls TalkKK by Haru Karuki. It was serialized in Ribon between the January 2012 to April 2014 issues.[86][87] The second is Maite wa Ikenai Rozen Maiden (まいてはいけないローゼンメイデン?, lit. "The Rozen Maiden That Should Not Have Existed") by Choboraunyopomi.

これっすか? 記事を書いたお馬鹿さんのせいだと思うけど
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We wouldn't need to worry about which まく is it or which いれる if japan used their kanjis!! God damn it
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>>148033995
其ノ提案を固く反対シテマス
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>>148034108
I didn't even know the kanji for これ(though it doesn't really make a difference)! But at least use them verbs with their kanjis! It would make life easier for everyone
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>>148032735
300 Kanji is nothing. I have more than 2000 (which is not even high), reasonable vocab base and Re:Zero was frustrating as fuck for me as well.

At your level you simply need to continue studying and reading manga until you're at least N2 before attempting something like Re:Zero.
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>>148034458
thanks for the confirmation.

it's time for me to go back grinding textbooks/kanji then.
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which one of this sentence a correct one;
>chotto aruite ikemasu

or

>chotto aruite imasu
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>>148034763
Read Tae Kim from start to finish.
www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar
Minimum 1 lesson a day. You'll get there eventually anon.

Don't fall for the "read Yotsuba first" either. Just pick whatever manga that's not too hard that motivates you personally.
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>>148024461
Here's my mnemonics free greed.
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>>148034826

Both, they just mean different things.
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>>148034945
So if I want to emphasize more on the walking itself , which one should I use?
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>>148034945
That is how all words and phrases work.
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>>148033121
Wow, Rozen Maiden
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>>148034914
>Don't fall for the "read Yotsuba first" either.
Why's that? If there is one manga every anon ought read in Japanese, it's よつばと.
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>>148035297
They both mean fairly different things so not sure what you're trying to 'emphasize' in the first place. -ていける is the potential form of -ていく, -ています is, well, fucking -ています what do you want.
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>初対画
What precisely does this succession of characters mean? Or maybe I'm mistaking one kanji for another?
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>>148035683
初対面
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>>148035683
It's 初対面 anon.
そんな恥ずかしいこと言えるかよ
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>>148035464
>>148033121
What do you mean should not have existed?
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>>148035683
初 (first) + 対画
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Keep reading 土産 as どさん, maybe if I shitpost about it here it'll never happen again.
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>>148035722
>>148035754
>mistaking 面
>of all of the kanji there
I am such a moron, thanks
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>>148035785
あんたも間違えてどうするw
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>>148035759
This is spin-off desu.
All in normal desu.
DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
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>>148035800
That's one of the valid readings though.

Maybe add a card with お土産 where that reading isn't possible.
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>>148035919

はい、あれは冗談だった。

*バ・ダム・ティッシュ*
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>>148036092
この精液ポンプは誰?
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>>148034928
>mnemonics free
>Vocab
the second makes the first a lot less impressive
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>>148036272
She's flat as a fucking board so who cares
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>>148036272
カルコ or something. From bubuki buranki.
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>>148035930
Excellent.
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>>148036841
一希 薫子ですね、ありがとう
>>148036329
自身で命を絶つべき、このやろう
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>>148036328
Why? Because I didn't waste my fucking time?
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> have been studying the language for quite some time
> "studying" as in slacking off
> too embarrassed to practise with native speakers because I would have become fluent years ago if I approached this thing まじめに, and my results now are pathetic for the time spent "studying"
> but not practising means not getting better
> it's a wicked circle
Do you people have a Skype conference or something? If not, what are good places to find someone to practise with anonymously?
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>>148037169
Just watch more anime
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>>148037217
Have been watching almost exclusively in raws for the past two years now, and I practically didn't improve since then.
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>>148033701
>>148029478
Man do I really have to wait for imouto to get an answer to this? It's driving me up the wall dog damn.
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>>148037275
Time to read New Game manga then
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>>148035679
"I'd go for a stroll" or something. My concern is that "ikemasu" would emphasize more on the mode of commute (I'd go by walking) rather than the act of walking itself (I'd go for a walk)
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アノン君が知ってる"should"の日本語訳を教えてください。
I'm always confused by "should" when I translate English.
Please show me all translation that you know about "should".
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>>148037426
べき
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>>148037295
It basically means "X is X [because of thing]". In the context it means "部長 calmly saying that I'm 極道 is 部長-like", and 「俺も俺だ」 part means "and I'm me for so calmly taking it".
>>148037309
Eh?
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>>148037426

"べき" や "-た方がいい" や "-ばいい" = "should"
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What's DJT's opinion on classes?

My college doesn't offer Japanese but a nearby technical school does. 10 sessions, 2 hours each, once a week, $250. It's
"Intro to Conversational Japanese", and they also offer "Continuing Conversational Japanese".

I'm worried I won't use Japanese in the immediate future and I'll forget what I've learned. I'm worried I won't self-study hard enough. It's also a lot of money.
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What's the difference between "mitai" and "miru ka"?
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>>148037693
those classes are useles
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>>148037295
http://pragmatics.gr.jp/proceedings/PSJ_013_Proceedings_2011.pdf (p.137)
><Abstract>
>Within the framework of relevance theory, this paper discusses the information encoded in A mo A da

The answer is there
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>>148037547
>>148037646
thanks, I'm very glad.

Somebody, more please. more more
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>>148037693
You'd be better off studying by yourself. Bother some people on Facebook for speaking practise. Classes don't focus as much on kanji, either, which should be the real focus of your effort.
Basically, what >>148037747 says. Studying languages is all about practise, which class lessons can't give you much of.
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>>148037752
Jesus christ I don't even understand the fucking English paragraph above that N0 linguist-oriented shit.
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>>148035629
Because too many people here act as if there is no other alternative to Yotsuba as your first manga and that's utter shit and needs to stop right now.
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>>148038333
if you want me to translate a particular passage from linguist into standard english i'll be glad to, just quote it
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>>148037761
はず as in "it should be [...]"
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>>148037693
>2 hours each, once a week
>Conversational Japanese
Enjoy learning very basic Japanese in romaji. After you are done with your 10 sessions you might be able to understand 10% of an episode of anime
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>>148037420

You'd want "-ていきます" then which is just something like, "I'm going for a walk see you latter faggot" not いける which would be "I/you can get (somewhere) by walking". -ています is the same as any other -ています verb in that it's a simple statement of an action occurring at that moment, "I am walking", so again the two phrases are quite different,
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>>148038445

I just want to know what XもXだけど actually means in English so I can remember it. Well and now I'd want to know what all those alternatives that are being described in the .pdf mean to, I assume they're all similar with different nuances is all. Now my agony is that much greater.
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>>148038464
Good tip.
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>>148038580
find a passage that seems like it holds the clue but you just can't read and i'll translate it for you
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>>148038403
For a first manga, Yotsuba is really good since it's simple Japanese and the manga is actually really good

If you think there's an alternative at the same level, go ahead and tell us what it is
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>>148038623
Literally anything that has furigana. Even a lot of stuff that don't are fine too.

My first manga didn't have any furigana and was an adult manga and I'm not dead as far as I know.
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>>148038608
Don't worry, you've broken me, I'll just 自殺 now since that's what you want I guess.
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>>148038580
XもXだ is a tautology
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>>148038464
~のはず
~なはず

OK, this is useful. My collection has increased.
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>>148038515
Sankyuu
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>>148038768
what
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>>148038867

I think I've kind of figured it out, seems to be used in a negative context e.g. ActionするXもXだけど、Other ActionするYもY would seem to be "That X is a real asshole for doing that, but Y has some blame as well for doing other thing"

>>148039021

>find a passage that seems like it holds the clue
>among these pages and pages of PhD-level linguist shit that'd be barely intelligible at best even in English to most while I guard the simple answer

けだものめ
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http://www.coelang.tufs.ac.jp/mt/ar/dmod/class/ja_01.html

アラビア語を学びたい!
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>>148039242
i'm a highschool dropout, the only reason i can read this linguistics nonsense is because i've been doing it since i was in middle school, no formal education required

just like learning japanese!

if you do ever find anything just post it and i'll be happy to help
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I don't really understand the difference between "じゃないです" and "じゃありません"

When and why should you use one over the other?
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>>148039359
>じゃないです
it isn't
>じゃありません
it's not

you're welcome
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>>148039401
"it isn't"= "it is not" but shortened
"It's not"= "it is not" but shortened

Are you rusing me or am I missing something here?
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It isn't
It's not
it is not

これらに差ってあるの?
it is not が一番丁寧に見えます。実際はどうなの?
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>>148039359
違いはございません
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>お前は昔から、夜な夜な街を徘徊して男に襲われる趣味があって

Is my understanding correct that '徘徊して' is not describing the '男' because here する (して) is not in the 連体形?
And is it because of the passive form of '襲われる' that it clear that the subject of the sentence 'お前' is attacking the '男'?
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>>148039516
>it is not
formal, technical

>It's not
>It isn't
ordinary
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>have to name my 怪盗団 in Person
Help me out with the best chuunibyou terms you got.
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>>148039467
yep they're both just shortened versions of the polite register of "it is not"

the formal register would use では instead of じゃ, but can sound literally assertive in speech, just like english

>>148039516
>it is not
this is assertive in normal speech, but formal everywhere else

>It isn't
>It's not
these are normal

>it ain't
this is slang/dialect
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>>148039569
>お前は昔から、夜な夜な街を徘徊して
>男に襲われる趣味があって
Your grammarspeak is making my head hurt but yes '徘徊して' is not describing the '男'
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>>148039679
*Persona
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>>148039679
人夢の儚い荒廃
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>>148039569
>And is it because of the passive form of '襲われる' that it clear that the subject of the sentence 'お前' is attacking the '男'?
It's the opposite. You (お前) are attacked (襲われる) by the man (男に). 男に襲われる趣味 is "hobby of being assaulted by men."
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>>148039748
I went with 漆黒の翼
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>>148039570
>>148039702
なるほどなるほど、ありがとう。

「じゃないです」 と 「じゃありません」 のあいだに意味の違いありません。

しかし 「じゃないです」 の方は少しだけ汚い日本語です。
一番formalな形は 「ではありません」 です。
ではありません: formal 100%, ordinary 40%
じゃありません: formal 80%, ordinary 90%
じゃないです: formal 70%, ordinary 90%
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>>148039972
Ah, thanks for pointing that out. I need to remember that に actually marks who does the action.
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>>148040041
How about 「ではない」?
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>>148040110
One way to help is to remember that で, which marks the "means" or "circumstance" of an action, comes from にて in very old japanese (we're talking, the phonetic change was already occuring in the earliest known writing). So, the に for the agent of passives is much like the に that resulted in で.
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>>148040177
That's pretty cool. Thank you.
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Today I felt really tired and I felt like my comprehension dropped a lot.
Is this a sign that I should rest a little?
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Anyone know good podcasts?
Something not anime or PR related like Hibiki or Onsen.ag

I listen to TBS Session-22 myself: http://www.tbsradio.jp/77927
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>>148040041
What those guys said isn't quite true. The meaning is the same, but there is a clear difference in emphasis between "It isn't" and "It's not".

アッパケースを使えない奴の言ってることを聞かないほうがいいよ、彼の英語能力は明らかに最低
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>>148040115
ではない: formal 20%, ordinary 30%, plus(command, refuse, cocky, entreaty)
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>>148040353
Yeah. Those "weak" days where you are a little off and everything is extra hard are normal. Usually a sign of not having eaten yet, being sick or not having enough sleep.
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>>148040406
Thanks!
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>>148040353
It's just that your body got used to your usual adderall intake. Gotta increase the drug intake a little and you're good to go again.
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>>148040461
If you're neurotypical, you should take a low dose of ritalin alongside adderall. Neurotypicals taking adderall are at a higher risk of neurological degenerative disorders due to the blocked dopamine deteriorating in the brain. Taking ritalin causes that dopamine to get picked up.

This isn't an issue for people with real ADHD because ADHD itself has minor neurodegenerative properties, and adderall actually reverses them for some reason, per empirical study.
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>>148040401
あなたはネイティブ?もしくはイギリス英語?
たまに私でもすごく読みやすい英文を書いてくれる人がいる。
あと、よければその2つの違いも教えてくれませんか?
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>junky talk
Duterte先輩、この人たちです!
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>>148040406
I've heard Gilgamesh use it in Carnival Phantasm and found it pretty cool.
I will probably use it too and also 俺 of course
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>>148038580
> I just want to know what XもXだけど actually means in English so I can remember it.
Was my (>>148037426) explanation bad?
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>>148040413
Thanks, i have eaten a little more these days because i was recovering from the cold
I haven't slept much lately.
Those weak days are really discouraging though
I spent 1-2 hours reading and the rest of the day watchinh jap subbed anime.
I take a break after dinner for 2-3 hours before sleep.


>>148040461
I don't think I have ADHD
Never seen a doctor for that.
Does ritalin work?
I don't think i can get it legally in europe without prescription
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>>148040690
もちろん俺はネイティブだけど英人じゃない

For example, to emphasise the negative, such as when you are contradicting someone, you should use "it's not". To emphasis the subject, you use the other form.

Examples:

"Your hair is red!"
"It's not! It's strawberry blonde!"

"Your car is being towed!"
"No, it isn't... but yours is!"
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>>148040873
Shit, I meant to link to >>148037608.
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>>148040908
>strawberry blonde
Why? English people!!!
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>>148040870
>I don't think I have ADHD
That's what they all say.
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>>148040882
Where do you get japanese subbed anime?
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>>148040870
言語的の中二時代やわw
あとで後悔になるよ?
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>>148040882
> Does ritalin work?
I envy people who can eat amphetamine like candy.
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>>148040882
>I don't think I have ADHD
>Never seen a doctor for that.
>Does ritalin work?
>I don't think i can get it legally in europe without prescription
You don't need real ADHD to get a script for something like that, just keep in mind that taking adderall alone if you don't have true ADHD is slightly neurotoxic. Ritalin is much better for the neurotypical but has a much shorter half life (= it wears off faster).

You can get a script for amphetamine-class stimulants if you have trouble with short term memory or concentration, even if you don't have diagnosable ADHD. It depends on how uptight your squirt is. You might need to go to a psychologist, psychiatrist, or neuropsyche (in order of worst to best) in order to get a formal diagnosis of some kind. That diagnosis doesn't have to be ADHD, it just has to be something medicatable by amphetamine-class stimulants, which is easy because they're almost nootropics.
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>>148040870
常に上から目線で、しぶい感じがあるね。かっこいいです。

>>148040908
It's notの方が強調できるのねOK
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>>148041117
Download raw
Download jap subs from kitsunekko
Change sub times with aegisub
Use translator aggregator and text hook it to the video to get the subs in it like you do with VN

>>148041291
Thanks but not risking it
Going to japan in april and i don't want to pass as the crazy gaijin
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In conversation, it's sure that ではない sounds a bit arrogant or casual.
But in papers/reports/theses, it's definitely formal expression.
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>>148041392
>Use translator aggregator and text hook it to the video to get the subs in it like you do with VN
Disgusting
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>>148041661
>implying I use its built-in translator
I just use it to get sentences out easier for my anki deck
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>>148041581
Thanks

In japanese you have two places to individually choose

じゃ・では
ない・ありません

and you can add です to the ない kind, in speech, so there are 4 or 6 options

In english, we have two options

[it's] vs [it is]
[is not] vs [isn't]

but they are mutually exclusive. you can't mix [it's] with [isn't]. we only have three total options

we also have [ain't], but it's slang from the 1700s, and was adopted by [ebonics], which is stereotyped.
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>>148041901
とても面白いんですね
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>>148041901
>you can't mix [it's] with [isn't].
Like hell I can't. It'sn't correct English, but this is an imageboard I can do what I want.
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>>148042421
Did you hit your head?
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>>148042421
I do say [it 'in't] sometimes but that means [it did not]

I've never heard It'sn't ever, not even with niggers

now [it not], you'd have something going
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How about でない?
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>>148041901
Don't forget
じゃねぇ
and
でございません
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>>148041901
> was adopted by [ebonics]
See, I'm not even a native and I know that you're a sheltered loser who needs to feel that he's categorically better than others because hiding behind categories is the only thing he can do to not feel pathetic. That people like you are allowed to live is sickening.
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>>148041171
Have a better gif
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>>148042704
>じゃねぇ
it ain't ~
>でございません
By thy courteous honor on my words shall it not be true that ~
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渋い
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>>148042768
Cheers.
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>>148042738
What gives you that idea? I live in a ghetto. It's true that [ain't] is stigmatized, but I didn't say it was wrong. The series of japanese constructions I brought up there aren't stigmatized, so [ain't] doesn't correspond to them.
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>>148042545
>>148042478
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_double_contractions
It even has a wikipedia entry.

To any Japanese friends who are lurking in this thread... Don't use these, they sound dumb.
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is 2k core enough to understand shit?
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>>148042842
>Don't use these, they sound dumb.
Yes, that exactly. You can contract anything want to in english, but it doesn't have to sound normal at all. Keep in mind that people who don't study language will misunderstand you when you say things that don't sound normal.
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>>148042830
> What gives you that idea?
I heard all kinds of native speakers use "ain't" in their speech? Come on, it's used too commonly to single out one category of people as the primary users of that speech, uh, pattern.
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>>148042967
Well, they really are the primary users of that pattern. They really are.
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>壱
>弐
>参
>拾
Why don't they just use Arabic numerals?
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>>148043081
一十円
三十円
that's why
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>>148042996
And of "was" for plural too, right? The only two explanations as for why you'd make a special mention of that are that you live in a ghetto or are the kind of lunatic to be obsessed with "[ebonics]", and considering the place we're at, the latter is statistically more likely. At least we cleared out this one.
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>>148042853
Core2k is not even enough for Yotsuba and children's books.
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>>148043140
"Was" for plural is significantly more common in ebonics than "normal" slang, yes. Just like "normal" slang uses "there's" for plurals but ebonics doesn't.
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>>148042996
Those boys ain't right I tell ya what. Ain't is just as much a southern thing as it's a black thing.
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>>148043243
Yep, too bad lots of southerners are racist and decide to avoid using "ain't" just because it's associated with blacks, even though "ain't" is in their heritage.
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>>148041901
ではない can be used in formal papers but you can じゃない only in conversation or conversational posts like 4chan
You also can hear ではない style such as narration of news or conversation under business situation
The reason why じゃない is a version of ではない that changed to pronounce easily
Needless to say, it depends on which dialect you speak.
Idk but in 関西弁 it appears as やない and I usually use でないorでねえ when I speak my dialect.
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>>148043156
u wot
80% of the common lexicon is composed of ~1500 most used kanji. Sure, just the 2k isn't the limit and you're going to see unfamiliar kanji from time to time, but 2k is generally more than enough, especially for children's books.
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>>148043288
Thanks
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>>148043223
You really are sheltered, aren't you?
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