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Who's Bruce Faulconer?
>>147745036
>inb4 Kikuchi haters
Dubfags need not apply. The quality of the Jap ost aside, Faulconer's scroe has too big problems: it has no concept of silence (seriously why does music need to ALWAYS be playing) and it has too many tracks that try to play up the "edgy cool factor" of the series, which leads to the overall tone and characterization of scenes to be miscommunicated to the audience. Hence why (among other reasons) so many Americans have no idea what the series is supposed to be like.
>>147745379
let me guess, you find the english dub horrible and goku's japanese voice to be sublime
>>147745036
>Hence why (among other reasons) so many Americans have no idea what the series is supposed to be like
What's it supposed to be like?
>>147745496
He's got a point, the dub soundtrack never shuts the fuck up
I love both the kinkuchi and faulconer score
>>147745532
His too
>>147745379
Yamamoto and the video games certainly had an impact too. There was a lot of rock, but nowhere near the amount of synth Falcouner did.
No one ever complains about Kikuchi for DB though. Just Z, so I can't see anything other than nostalgia.
>>147745036
faulconer is not bad at all, but kikuchi captures the essence better. thus why, kai is the ultimate experience. nozawa is just not good as goku, i'm sorry.
>>147745036
I hope the english dub of Super have different music, the current music isn't that good.
>>147745379
>it has too many tracks that try to play up the "edgy cool factor" of the series, which leads to the overall tone and characterization of scenes to be miscommunicated to the audience
Eh, I only agree with this when it comes to Goku's character.
Otherwise, I find the complaints about the DBZ dub being too "edgy" to be misplaced. Dragonball became gradually more grimdark all on its own without any assistance from the dub. I mean, this is the series which had
- Cell jamming a spike in a man's spine and absorbing him while depicting the man literally melting into nothing with full detail
- Frieza committing genocide against an alien species, including a scene where we literally see a child get blown up by a ki blast
- Future Trunks coming from a war-torn world where most of the cast is dead, and he loses his mentor in a scene which is played completely straight with not a single bit of humor
- Buu filling up a man's stomach with his own body and making him explode
- Buu pushing the planet to near extinction
Dragonball stopped being cutesy light-hearted adventures a long time ago.
>>147745496
Let me guess, you find Faulconer to be hell f*ckin epic and Schemmel's Goku to be le so manly?
>>147745036
He had his moments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrogZTkvRxs
>there are people on /a/ RIGHT NOW who think that japanese goku's voice is actually good and fitting
>not living in a country in which the dub didn't get shit music
If you watched the dub, you didn't watch Dragon Ball Z. It's that simple.
There's no character named Tien.
The music is not the demo button on a Casio keyboard.
Their parachutes did not open.
>>147746355
>there are plebs who don't
It's okay. I used to be a memelord who never watched the series in the actual order in its original language too.
>>147746533
>parachutes
What?
>>147746763
>actually thinking that screechy grandma goku is fitting
>>147746355
My only complain about funimation dub Goku are his OOC lines.
>>147746980
Not an argument
Why the rest of the world can have the OST and Americans need to change it?
What about those fresh Deftones and Disturbed songs?
Americans are pathetic when it comes to anime.
Well, he's not. He has like 3 or 4 good songs and the rest is either really generic or really bad.
>>147746355
Yeah, you WOULD try and start shit, wouldn't you Kusaka?
>>147746980
She wasn't anywhere near as screechy back in the day. Go rewatch movie 12 and then Super back to back, it's a world of difference what 20 years does to your voice.
>>147745036
He isnt, only kids who saw dbz with funimation dub first think this is the best iteration of dbz.
>>147747122
It had nothing to do with that, it was to cheat their way out of paying for the original music.
>>147745379
Dub with Jap soundtrack is good
You are transported to a parallel universe where Goku was voiced by Shon Schemmeru and Masie Nozzle. Your mission; defend Grandma Goku.
>>147747733
That's even worse.
You get characters from what is basically an 80's American cartoon dub ala Thundercats or GI Joe, with music from what should be a parody of the wuxia genre. Shit just doesn't mix.
You either watch the kung fu epic, or you watch the so-bad-its-good cheese. Both are valid forms of enjoyment, but mixing them is just missing the point of both.Unless you mix Faulconer with the jap voices, which sounds pretty cool to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fddat-Mlf7c
>>147745036
He's no Shuki Levi, that's for sure.
>>147745036
The dub was decent, the soundtrack wasn't, so I agree.
>>147746763
>Watching the anime
You can set aside the differences in voices and still say the original japanese dub is superior. The funimation dub suffers from extremely poor quality acting and a badly translated script, and that's not even touching on the shit they added in afterwards.
>>147745036
Well I like his dbz soundtracks.
>>147745753
I actually really dislike a number of the tracks in Z while I rather like DB's ost generally. It's the same guy, but from my recollection Z lacks a lot of the high tempo tracks that were omnipresent during DB's more exciting moments, and those were crucial to elevating those fights to their fullest potential as a viewing experience. And considering Z is so much more focused on nonstop fighting, I honestly prefer Faulconer's stuff for Z as a result, since a large portion of his tracks are decently intense fight themes.
>>147745036
Yes.
Kikuchi's is objectively and on every level better than Faulconer's BGM.
Dub is shit. Even after like 10 times its still toned down and edited. Roshi asks a girl for a kiss while in the sub he asks to motorboat their tits. Why does Funi still censor the dub on DVD?
>>147753460
Nah, trumpets are shit.
At least he doesn't use fucking slide whistles
All versions of the anime are shit
>>147753460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLLsSqCAHWI
KYS, faggot.
French dub is the best (only the dub, not the french openings) especially for Vegeta
American dub vegeta sounds like shit and bruce faulconer musics are ridiculously bad
>>147753460
>grainy audio that sounds like it was recorded in the 1970s
>better than Falconer's tracks
Nah.
>>147746533
parachutes?
>>147747904
This is cringy as fuck. Give me back my trumpets.
>>147745036
I thought Falconer was better.
Then I actually watched it with the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJMAb88v8eg
>>147757416
Honestly, the nonstop back and forth with 4 pieces of music bothers me more than the actual music in this scene.
regardless of any drama asociated with its creation, yamamoto's sound track beats out the other two.
>>147754301
>That fucking terrible image quality
I still can't believe enough people truly thought this was OK that it got all the way through the production-distribution pipeline and was released this way.
>>147745581
Funimation seemed to think
>how will the viewers not get bored if there isn't always some noise?
It's one thing if they just added music to silent scenes, but they even went as far as adding lines to the dialogue.
I especifically remember when Goku was fighting Android 19. At one point, Goku takes him down and out of nowhere, Gohan can be heard saying "way to go, dad" which made no sense, iirc. He was nowhere near the scene anymore, having left with Krillin to warn the others.
lol you amerifags have such shit taste. literally every other language dub has the japanese soundtrack because why the fuck wouldn't they? Bruce Faulconer's casio keyboard crap is garbage. He wasn't worked for Funimation since what 2003? Get the fuck over it hes never coming back
>tfw grew up with spanish dub
>tfw glorious ost was untouched
>tfw voice actors were good and didn't sound like they had throat cancer
Didn't the guy sue Funimation because he thought he was such an integral part of dbz's popularity. Then he didn't credit or have his performers paid royalties on the soundtrack release. I know that shouldn't affect my opinion of his work, but damn he seems like a real asshole
>>147754393
so a dub that left screams in japanese. referred to the saiyans as "warriors" and a good amount of editing in its original run was the best? Nah I dont think so. The kai dub pretty solid though
>>147757416
The thing I hate the most about the American dub is that they added lines of dialogue that were never there. Like when Gohan turned SS2, they had him go through a monologue before transforming.
>sub > dub meme
Look at Goku becoming SSJ in the dub, and even the kai dub. And then look at the sub version.
>>147760739
>even the kai dub
the kai dub is probably objectively the best in terms of voice acting since funimation went back years later with far more experience than they had when they originally did the lines and this time they stuck almost 100% to the original script.
all kai doesn't have his the music most people watching the dub wanted to hear. still, it's better than the OG dbz soundtrack.
and thankfully, the music isn't complete shit in super.
>>147760995
Actually I take it back, I had my nostalgia glasses stuck on. The dub was worse for many reasons, but I feel like the BF ost is good for certain scenes. Kai improved it by miles.
>>147745036
I always thought his shit was garbage ad edgy as fuck when growing up
>>147746272
Not an argument
Why do sub fags whine about Goku's funi voice when literally every single non-Jap dub also gave Goku a similarly "heroic" male voice?
>>147745062
the one who made OST/soudntrack for DBZ english version
>>147760995
the kai has shitty music, the voices are fine I forgot
>>147746930
Insulting the target audience's intelligence to satisfy censors who want to cover their asses from anal-retentive parents, i.e., the same BS Nintendo of America perpetrated until the 21st century.
>>147745581
And now it's the exact opposite with entertainment where music is made to be really ambient.
>>147745036
Nothing to discuss over facts.
You can remove "that" from the sentence.
>>147759101
Best thing to ever come out of mexico. Spanish anime. And respect for the source material. Also no censorship. Suck it muricans.
>contrarian hipsters and their "HURR JAP IS BETTER JUST BECAUSE JAP XDDD" while having no actual argument still trying to push their meme OST
>meanwhile Toei learns and makes DBS OST sound like Falcouner OST
I rather have no OST at all than listen to that shit original OST and those trash drums.
This is good OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CqNaP-DXPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU5EMlT3Uzw
This is just trash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCXoQ_ZcjYo
I cant watch this shit without faulconer
>>147770539
>HURR JAP IS BETTER JUST BECAUSE JAP XDDD
Does anybody actually argue this?
>>147770539
Sumitomo's Kai work was boring, and his synth tracks in Super are so bad.
Rock and Metal have been part of Dragon Ball since the mid-90s because of all of the fucking games.
>>147770801
The people who like that shit OST does. There is a reason why DBS doesn't use those boring trumpets. Even the SSJ transformation in RoF Mirai Trunks version used the superior DBS OST.
The original DBZ OST was just trash and this is coming from someone who watched DBZ with the original OST.
>>147770539
I rather listen to brass orchestra music over any of this forgettable generic synth shit any day.
>>147770945
>The people who like that shit OST does
I like the original OST, and that's because it's the kind of thing that goes with a wuxia/mystical kung fu epic, which is the genre that Dragon Ball is a parody of at its core.
>superior DBS OST
Oh this is bait. Nevermind.
>>147745036
That's right, he isn't. There's nothing to discuss.
>>147759101
https://youtu.be/Wc5vPDaOmhI
GT had the best soundtrack
https://youtu.be/-xis_kD7ALc
>>147745036
only good thing to come from Faulconer
https://youtu.be/TYQCeoEs7NE
>>147745036
I'm not american
Hell I'm not even a main english speaker
The jap version isn't better than the american version
Faulconer music is good
The music repartition in the jap version is good
The voice of either versions suck black dicks
DBZ anime in general was a mistake
Every pleb in this thread just disgust me because they are either patriotic jackass or weeb faggot goin back and forth in an eternal autistic rage
You can't take a step back and truly understand why something is good or bad
>>147745036
I like a lot of his tracks but felt half was unnecessary.
>>147759101
Poles had it rough: they had censored French dub which was then translated a second time to polish. It had strange, changed opening, but at least OST was untouched
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ1NcxAZUYk
>>147759101
>voice actors are loved the project
>recorded with all the cast of every chapter in stage, thing that even they miss now.
>an excelent and well selected cast of voices.
>clean voices over a well mixed audio. the sound its not like a cassette quality audio from other old anime. sounds magnificent unlike new digital recordings.
crisp clean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7KjI_SZq7A
god bless 90's mexico dubs.also not mexican here
>>147773029
If only Spanish wasn't a disgusting sounding language.
>>147773029
Based Mario Castañeda is best Goku
>>147745841
I second this
>>147745379
>Faulconer's scroe has too big problems: it has no concept of silence (seriously why does music need to ALWAYS be playing)
I believe that's more of a problem of the director rather than Falconer,
>>147745496
They're both shit and Toriyama is the most overrated author in the industry. Dragonball's plot is generic by Japanese standards, Dragonball Z basically invented going from one fight to another with little to no plot between, the fights just aren't that good to justify doing this either as there is no variety in the combat, it is just flying punch rushing, teleportation and energy blasts. There is rarely deviation from this and when there is it is because they are fighting a one off alien with a gimmick. A gimmick I might add, that is overcome by somebody charging up like a phone. The characters all look the fucking same as well, Toriyama has like 3 fucking faces and he uses them exclusively whether he is doing manga or games.
It makes no fucking sense that he is as influential as he is. And speaking of that influence, he is also responsible for fight service even being a thing. Every single author that cites Toriyama as an influence at some point is just going from fight to fight pairing up protagonists with throwaway villains. It is awful and he will never stop because he is the Michael Bay of manga and people will never stop throwing money at him from recolouring his characters, calling it a power up and making yet another movie about it.
>>147776673
Pikkon's theme.
>>147776673
Japs, murrikans? Who cares? The true version of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z is the mexican one, putos.
I can appreciate the music in the Z dub, but it's just not my style. I liked it much better in Dragonball. Super is pretty lame though.
>>147745379
> it has no concept of silence
Fucking this and the worse thing is that in scenes like the fight in cell games, music randomly changed into some silly music once the camera showed Satan and co.
The only Dub DBZ ost that i prefer is in Broly movie cause of that sic pantera track.
In conclusion, as a musician, MUH Trumpets.
>>147776673
>Dragonball Z basically invented going from one fight to another with little to no plot between,
>I haven't read Fist of the North Star.
Z dub had better music and I can't even stand the dub voices. Fucking weeaboo losers.
Every dub Buu theme > sub themes and you're a fucking want if you even try to argue otherwise
All ssj themes are tied or better
Cell them is better
Frieza theme is better
Ginyu theme is shittons better than that lame pop song
The only issue is the lack of silence. It is a big issue. But that has nothing to do with the music itself.
>>147776673
>Dragonball Z basically invented going from one fight to another with little to no plot between
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aXJKr4bnGxk
Fuller characters in the dub have better character themes than anyone in the sub and you weebs still try to act like your unfitting orchestral bullshit is better lmao. Say whatever you want, but I gladly welcome dbz as high octane testosterone filled action instead do the classical majestic shit you want it to be
This is really nice
SS3 theme was so hype, you forgot it accomplished nothing
Super would be great if it had dub music though instead of jpop insert songs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NTvrRpotAxo
>>147747904
>Using a shit movie maker overlap job when we have people now properly mixing and isolating audio tracks.
What are you a fucking Asspie (Retard)
>>147780601
>I gladly welcome dbz as high octane testosterone filled action that Barry Watson wanted it to be instead of the classical majestic shit that it was written as
That's fine. You don't have to enjoy the actual material if you don't want to. Just man up and acknowledge that you have to watch the bastardization that you're incapable of outgrowing.
>>147781053
Yeah, I'll enjoy dbz for what it is while you try to act like it was some high class fancy shit. Fucking weeb loser.
>>147781053
LOL the original ost was made for the fucking movies anyway, it doesn't even fit the series. For Christ's sake the original ssj theme is just some random theme from the first movie. Original isn't always better.
>>147781111
>I'll enjoy dbz for what it is
But Faulconer's score wasn't in the actual anime, just Funimation's short lived fanfiction.
>>147781202
Reused isn't always worse.
Im convinced that shitty OST is why American Dragon Ball fans are such edgelords
>>147781219
>>147781250
So hypocritical lmfao
>>147781271
Not an argument.
>>147780601
I always thought Pikkon was awesome. Mainly because of the dub theme. Was that tournament even good or was it just the music that made it just not more shit filler?
Anyone like the Japanese voices and English voices equally (at least when it comes to Kai for the dub)? Because I can enjoy Sean and Masako.
>>147747050
Watch Kai.
Seriously, why does everyone forget Kai exists?
>>147753487
Dragon Ball never got a real uncut dub.
Both sides have excellent tracks, I just feel that the Japanese dub utilises the music a lot better. The Funi dub has a sometimes criminal habit of cutting and mashing different tracks together depending on what's going on in quick succession, as if it's doing its best to avoid any silent moment.
>>147782328
Because it's shit
>>147770027
>mexican dubs
>no censorship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2BGsqtY1o0
>>147783112
um ok
>>147783303
You know, footage cuts aren't the only way of censorship...
>>147771828
This is my shit right here.
>>147745036
It's "Faulconer Productions" not Bruce Faulconer
Bruce wasn't the only one working on DBZ there were a bunch of others too
>>147776673
>Dragonball's plot is generic by Japanese standards
lol no
>>147782328
Because it doesn't have "MUH FAULCONER". And dubcucks are allergic to good acting.
>>147745036
Right, he's amazing.
>>147782328
>Seriously, why does everyone forget Kai exists?
Because it's shit
>>147754443
>shitty synth which was produced with a 300 dollar synthesizer
>better than Kikuchi's orchestral stuff
lmao
>>147757416
>Those dumbass added lines
So fucking cheesy
>>147760739
Yeah the dub version of that scene is horrible
Also why even use "SSJ" if you're a dubfag?
>>147770539
Holy fuck kill yourself
Literally just do it
I wish Yamamoto was never caught for plagiarism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NokXLGU7JBA
>>147770945
>There is a reason why DBS doesn't use those boring trumpets
Because it sucks?
Dragon Ball Super is literal cancer worse than GT
>>147758628
That's a filter to avoid copyright stupid
>>147780179
The metal soundtracks for the movies were really weird
Which was the movie which had Linkin Park music? Goddamn that was shitty
>>147780601
>unfitting orchestral bullshit
>unfitting
LOL
This is what dubfags actually believe
>>147784767
>synth tracks made using modern technology
>not being better than orchestral shit recorded with a audio technology from the 1960s
I honestly can't listen to the original. Way too fucking grainy.
>>147785070
The music was garbage lmao
I wanted to kill myself every time that stupid triumphant theme played in Kai
>>147785403
I bet you can't listen to 60s rock like Deep Purple, Hendrix, Black Sabbath either then
In which case you shouldn't talk about music you cuck
Best Dragon Ball theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm77VCkf_do
>>147785403
>Orchestral
>Shit
Pick one.
>>147785443
The beginning of this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RprbIlL31Q
It was pretty bad but holy fuck did it make Vegeta's Final Flash GOAT
>>147785646
some of the tracks were pretty great but the actual placement of them left a lot to be desired
>>147785530
You posted the wrong song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8JwUGR9Sok
>>147785631
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mcHP1HYkds
>>147785530
Let's be honest, there is only one best Dragon Ball song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezrbyf6t9mY
>>147780179
>Fucking this and the worse thing is that in scenes like the fight in cell games, music randomly changed into some silly music once the camera showed Satan and co.
Did you fucking watch those youtube videos where the description just says FAGIMATION over and over?
>>147785770
That's not >>147785722
>>147745379
The whole point of localizing a product is making it more appealing to the market you're trying to sell it too. Bruce Falcouner made a score that reflected what the American audience wanted out of DBZ: a bunch of cool guys fighting and his score focuses on highlighting that.
If I'm going to sell Hamlet in Thailand you better believe there's gonna be some stylistic differences, and changing the interpretation of the characters to better appeal to that culture may be necessary to make money. And all the changes that the dub made to the series, both technically and artistically were a success because dragon ball is a ridiculously profitable brand in the states.
He's not necessarily bad, nor is the dub: you just disagree with the vision.
>>147785936
>Bruce Falcouner made a score
It was Faulconer Productions not Bruce Faulconer alone
And before Faulconer it was Shuki Levy and some other compoers in the original Saban/Funimation/Ocean Dub
>>147745036
I wouldn't say his music is amazing or worth listening to on repeat, but it's a lot better than the OG 70's kung foo shit. The Dragonball OST fits, but Z worked well with that 90s rock and electro mix.
>>147770539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2fsh2U2LCA
cleanest OST track 2k16
Game OST > Shit in the anime (sub/dub)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-EAg8j7yzM
>Not liking the American version of Vegeta's theme
Lol?
>>147789073
>not posting yamato's re-arrangements
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHj37PNtzvlLeOlLlsjv28afyL8wrgKM0
>>147745379
>it has no concept of silence (seriously why does music need to ALWAYS be playing)
??? what does this have to do with music quality? that's sound direction.
Yeah no. His music was what elevated most of those moments to such memorable status. It's like fucking nothing whenever I have to watch those scenes with some other music.
Some are great especially the character themes but holy shit every episode has that "uuuuuu" tone in the dub.
https://youtu.be/FV95hgaEtIw?t=45
>>147789484
>His music was what elevated most of those moments to such memorable status
>hurr DBZ wasn't big anywhere before Funimation butchered it
okay kid
>live in italy
>get the glorious japanese music track with the dub
>the dub is kind of bad but nobody cared
>>147785936
Cutting up someone else's creation for your own profit is a disgusting vision. Respect the original work or make something fucking new for once.
Fucking dubfags, you're the reason abortions like Warriors of the Wind are considered okay.
>>147770801
Do you think anyone actually thinks Goku should sound like a woman?
>>147785832
No i just watched the dub. The silly music changes are a problem in the whole series.
>>147772399
>>147780601
>>147772399
>weeb
Why aren't these people banned already?
>>147782328
Because it's still not finished after all these years.
>mfw watching the Dragonbox version
>getting the original uncensored episodes in the best possible quality
>getting the dub
>getting the original OST
Why would anyone not do this?
It's objectively the best way you can watch DBZ.
>>147794212
tfw utsukushii raws will never be completed ;_;
>>147794162
Yes it is,you probably just forgot Kai Buu saga existed
>>147794563
Not with the dub though.
>>147794576
Of all the things to complain about....
The music was so damn good in the DBZ dub.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xOXcHDtik0
>>147753460
>>147784767
>>147785488
>>147785556
>shitty orchestra music with shit audio vs hip electronic music made with cutting edge technology that gets you PUMPED UP BRAH!
>>147745036
I remember thinking as a kid, "That's a weird name for an episode."
>>147781515
Music made it not shit. I could say the same for the Garlic Jr saga, and I'm a fucking japanese sub fanboy. The dub music does some things better, the japanese music does other things better. It's only a question of what you're looking for.
>>147794444
Anyone know what settings they use to rip the dvds? I have a complete dragonbox set myself and I'd like to back them up.
>>147795898
Worst bait I've seen in a while.
>>147790190
dude the song is not bad. but
not all the scene is an"heroic moment",
there's no concept of silence
the original music turns into a common battle theme.. your song is just changing the point of the scene.
listen
>>147773029
also taco dub was better.
>>147770539
I agree
>>147785556
Oh don't fucking pretend to be all fucking classy and sophisticated. It's shit. Hot dogshit.
>>147772243
>only good thing to come from Faulconer
I probably couldn't stand hearing it in the anime but I do like the song a lot, mostly because it reminds me of the early 00's due to playing StepMania.
Best Cell theme is the original imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_hSSzfYEbQ
Then we have the idiots thinking it's a song by Kavinsky.
>>147798349
The shading in this gif never fails to make me hard
>>147798403
2 tone shadows are awesome.
Or is it called 3 layer shader?
Old anime (very rare nowadays) with three layers of light makes me hard.
>>147798014
>actual people who dislike orchestral music because "le pretentious sophistication"
Its not that one music is overall better than the other, its that falcouners fits DBZ style more.
DB is more lighthearted, not obsessed on power levels, a boys journey, so the orchestral stuff suites it better
DBZ has way mroe high octane fights, fast paced, full shounen, so faulconer suits it better
>>147798459
dude. it has just 1 layer of shade.
>>147798617
1
>no shadow
2
>light shadow
3
>darker shadow
>>147798613
murricans didn't get DB untill too late.
that's why your meme post makes sense.
>>147798653
look at that cell man. its just base color and shade.
there's no light aside the glow in his eyes
>>147798403
The eyes make me question my boner thoughkeeps reminding me of pic related
Americans are all blinded by nostalgia. Everyone else recognizes the fact that the American English dub is bland and soulless.
>>147798703
Not the same dude, but it has 2 layers close down to his chin, though in >>147798403 im mostly referring to the line work in his nose.
>>147792205
>Cutting up someone else's creation for your own profit is a disgusting vision. Respect the original work or make something fucking new for once.
Fucking weeb. Nips do that shit too. Hell Bakugan had a completely different score when it aired in Nipland as it was a dub original anime and Bakugan ended up even being even more poplar in Nipland because of it.
No need to discuss, you already said enough in your pic.
>>147799393
in my exprience, america ruins everything that was not created by them
>>147746930
>>147754680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl4ghsv04V0
Early DBZ had some real winners with the lines they spewed.
>>147776673
>Dragonball Z basically invented going from one fight to another with little to no plot between
>Dragonball Z basically invented
This is where I stop reading you. Dragon Ball didn't invent ANYTHING at all, everything Dragon Ball did was copying older hits.
>>147780306
>Fist of the North Star
>That copied everything from Ring ni Kakero and Kinnikuman
Topkek
>there are people who prefer rock the dragon to cha-la
Spic Dub>Ocean Dub>Funi Dub
>>147800673
Sha-la head sha-la~
OG voices>some Dub>water Dub?>No-Fun Dub
>All these faggots talking about their shitty Nozawa, their gay sean schemmel and their shitty hiphop electronic music when the latin american dub has better voices AND ostMe dan penita los amerifats tuvieron la desgracia de crecer escuchando el soundtrack de Bruce Faulconer, porque es una putrida mierda
>>147746763
I've watched db and dbz subbed too, and I still think the granny voice sucks donkey balls.
Stop being a weaboo brah.
>>147800673
>"Jus saiyan,dis is THE theme to Dragon Ball Z,not some boring Japanese words nobody knows,no hate "
>Niggers who watch Dragon Ball actually have "opinions" like this
Even the biggest weeb admits the orginal dub version of goku going ss3 is superior right?
https://youtu.be/bH_CcJ-uBWI
>>147800673
We call those smart people
Posting superior version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oTDwquc9js
>>147800793
>t. mexishit
fucking crossboarders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPIBE15hISs
You goof! You're such a nut! Where did you come up with that!
>>147800949
>"Jus saiyan,dis is THE theme to Dragon Ball Z,not some boring Japanese words nobody knows,no hate "
america ruins everything with their shitty openings, I know some of them are funny buy, why dont they just translate it?
like
>>147771828
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U_RS_GPgKo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSXvLClCu0Q
this guy is a bro. singing even today and making dubs for fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQs4XhxfZ8I
>>147801776
>I am the hope of the memeverse XD
>amerifats
>>147798014
>hating orchestral
So fucking hipster and edgy you bleed flannel out of your 'trendy' ear gauges
>>147792205
The original soundtrack has its merits, but I think for the Androids and Cell especially, spooky techno is much more fitting than low-fidelity trumpet/viola.
>>147757416
>characters can't be shown without grunting or having internal monologues
>music changes with the scene, changes any time something dramatic happens, retarded goofy music when comic relief characters are shown
>entire tone of the scene shifts from Cell and Goku being pretty much even to "GOKU'S GETTING PUSHED BACK YOU GUYS, CELL IS WINNING FUCK. COME ON GOKU YOU CAN DO IT."
>so much unnecessary extra dialogue
still can't believe people defend this trash. at least funimation got their shit together for kai. this shit right here is downright embarrassing though
>>147801867
No fucking clue.They did that with Makafushigi Adventure,so I have no idea why they had to produce a new song for Z.
>>147801015
Of the three versions, the Funi dub has the most heroic music. Goku's kinda struggling and wrecking the planet but whatever right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWPAHbrK1ak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qan_lAsbwOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA-WIynIzzs
The japshit music can never compare.
>>147757416
anyone have a webm of this?
>>147803030
Well, the Japanese version had no music when he fired that.
Superior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLalr_UNX8Y
>>147803030
>>147798014
LOL
no. please kill yourself, stupid nigger
>>147803484
>a fucking loop of the music all the tiem
>the music make it lose the ambient.
>also krillin trying to sound funny.
what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHKy8nfV0x8
>it's a Dragonball thread
>half the posts are /v/ unironically using "weeb" as an insult and filling their posts with "lol"s and "lmao"s
Every time
>>147785936
I remember once back in highschool this Asian kid was trying to explain it to this obese mulatto weeb who was going off on this loud angry rant in the middle of class to a group of people who don't even watch anime about how much he hates it when dubs change the op and ed songs.
>>147807349
dbz originated in america fuck off weeb
Only dumb weebs hate Faulconer. Some GOAT tracks desu famalam.
>>147811245
Not a weeb saw it in spanish first, YEARS ahead english dub is shit.
Wasn't Goku's voice actress literally one of the first in the industry?
>>147813038
yes, she is now over 500 years old
>>147813896
How much is that in human years?
>>147785830
Best villain. Best underlings.
Frieza was literally the high point of Z, everybody else can just go and stay go.
>>147763622
English is usually the dub people ever consider. Japan is the weird duck in a sense. That said hanks to Super a lot more dub fans now warmed up to Nozawa.
>>147814299
You know that English was one of the LAST languages that got a dub of the show, right?
>>147745379
I think the music worked when they were the more ambient tracks especially on Namek it made it feel more alien.
I think the japanese soundtrack is just ok in Z it soundsway better in dragonball since it fit that setting better. Over all Dragonball was just better in general and I think we can all agree on that at least
>>147814720
>He didn't watch the adventures of Zero and Lena
>the best thing Falcouner has done for DBZ was a theme for a minor character that gets about 3 plays total
>best composer
>got BTFO for plagiarism
>Every DVD release of Kai after 2011 replaced it with boring kikuchi score
>>147815830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47w0YzktIho
wish he never got caught. It ruined the music in the budokai HD releases and future games would have probably actually had good music
>>147816072
That one was so obvious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCpeuJ6swro
>>147816461
I thought the entire stratovarius album was more obvious once you hear it. the other songs seem like subtle homages by comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4LEKKJyHNI
>>147745841
I hope the dubbs get reanimated. The current one just isnt that good.
>>147785197
I want to say it's one of the Broly movies
just posting the best dragonball song of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mcHP1HYkds
dont mind me
Does anybody the the track that plays when Trunks kills King Cold? I can't find it anywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XAzDHco1w8
>>147751758
DBZ has been rescripted and redubbed so many times I lost count. The Kai dub is the most consistently good Every few years Funi re releases the series because guaranteed money.
>>147819101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJXkqfGGgJg