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Alright you maggots time to decide which boats are the best boats. I'm a schooner type of guy so it's obvious that schooners are the best
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Reminder.
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I'll shoot holes into your favorite boat.
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Reminder that she and Nagito are running the biggest most C O M P L E X ruse of all time
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>>147633030
Now I want Pirate Nanami.
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>>147632993
Double reminder.

Will Juzo ever be happy? I want him to survive, even if there will never be anything explicitly romantic with him and Munakata.

The same goes for most of the canon pairings, anyway.

So even if there isn't an asspull where everyone gets a happy ending. I think the idea of him surviving, having sacrificed his hand and talent, would be interesting. Even if there isn't enough time to show anything.

I just like thinking about it.
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>>147632994
Not if I shoot you first
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It was all for the memes
All of it
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Memes were a mistake.
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Oh shit, I'm sorry.
sorry for what? Enoshima Junko taught us not to be ashamed of our despair, especially since it's such a good stepping stone to hope and all.
yeah I see that, Junko gave you good brainwash.
it gets even more retarded when I pretend to be minhacked despite being like this since forever.
mmmmm
sometimes, I dive into despair so hard, I can already imagine how bright our hope will shine in the end!
well Chiaki taught me a few things too like eh... if you try things, even hard ones, everything might turn out okay...
will you battle against me Hajime?
I will not lose to a guy like you, Nagito!

>>147633030
I'm so happy seeing my edits here and there, this must be real hope
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>>147633030
>Nagito and Chiaki were besties from the start
>Even Nagito's actions in SDR2 and UDG were part of the keikaku
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So since danganronpa is full of endless possibilities of bullshit, let's say for instance there is this SHSL Doctor that discovers how to bring someone to life/out of a comatose state.

Who would you want back? Plot purpose, waifu/husbando purposes, whatever.

No Junko because she's immortal
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Reminder that eyes graying out is despair.

Reminder that a lot of retards (many in this very thread) refuse to accept this absolute fact.
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MY TIME HAS COME
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THERE WAS NO ONE WHO COULD EVEN REMOTELY CONTROL OUR HERO JUZO

>Punched Naegi in order to defend his bro
>Knee'd the fuck out of Anxiety fag because he knew that he was the traitor all along
>Had a misunderstanding with the Gozuboys
>Saved Hinata from getting killed by HPA
>The master of chair throwing, that one miss on Kirigiri was because he was a merciful hero, and not just to flex his muscles and check dat ass (because he only want's Munakata's ass)
>Went full ham on the evil old man mastermind and crew to save the FF
>Roundhouse kicks the everlasting shit out of Monaca's puppet in order to stop the second coming of Junko Enoshima
>Unable to stop some mentally deranged kid from blowing up half the school because he was too busy being a hero
>Had a misunderstanding with the donut but spared her
>Survived 2 missile barrages by an evil robot bent on destroying all hope
>Called out Monokuma's bluff with his cameras, recording his mad-ass pecs and didn't give a fuck in general about any of these plebians
>Became the world champion in boxing, becoming the undisputed best with bare hand combat before even leaving high school
>Too Alpha to mess with the bitches and instead neglects his own feelings as being the third wheel to protect his love no matter what
>Only took a 2 episode rest before kicking the shin of everyone again
>Took a fucking spear to the shoulder, impaled into a wall and shrugged it off like it was just a mosquito bite
>Was not seduced by Ruruka's sweets because he was so loyal to Munakata
>Has enough consideration to the normies to at least use them as a coatrack
>Even at the world's end, he was still gunning for a piece
>such a straight forwarded bro, he bends his own sexuality
>saves the manlet when he's in need, cutting of his hand to be the savior he truely is! Saving everyone with the power of determination
>Single handedly stopped the killing game, physically and literally

J U Z O B O Y S
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>>147633119
He'll be fine, my friend!
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>>147632920
So is Hope side going to be just Mirai ep 13 or a separate episode?
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>>147633197
Mahiru, no contest.
Actually Ibuki might also be a pretty good choice, I'd still go with strawberry
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>>147633163
>Enoshima Junko taught us not to be ashamed of our despair
You learnt nothing, didn't you?
Enoshima Junko taught us not to be ashamed of our memes
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>>147633223
Still a homo though
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>>147633223
Reporting in brother.
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>>147633119
>Juzo now thinks he's useless since he can't even box anymore
>Munakata declares he'll take care of him, since he'll always have a place by his side, no matter what
plz, kohacka.
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>>147633030
We'll see.
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>>147632920
Why did Izuru give his daughter such big tits?
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>>147633197
Mikan.
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>>147633316
He has the Ultimate Fetish talent, so he has the best fetishes in the world.
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>>147633223

>sacrificed the world to stay in the closet
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>>147633197
I feel like bringing back Nagito would have the best results in terms of plot because of his autism for hope.

Mahiru/Seiko because fuck you
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>>147633206
So if eyes graying out is despair what do Junko's eyes glowing in the dark mean?
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>>147633119
if juzo survives i want it to be a last minute reveal. like him in a hospital bed with a heart monitor or something. if he wakes up before the epilogue it'd be more asspull-y than it would otherwise. i also want him to find better than munakata.
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Time for a Juzo fact. Did you know? Juzo is left-handed.

>southpaw boxing stance
>grabs things more often with his left hand than right hand
>cut off his left hand, aka. dominant hand, to get rid of the bracelet

>>147633223
Your post makes me always happy and sad at the same time.
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>>147633316
Ultimate pervert
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>>147633366
bored
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>>147633206
Im pretty sure the gray eyes are just to convey shock, surprise, etc. The white eyes with spirals are the actual despair eyes, you massive faggot.
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>>147633384
>Cut off his dominant hand
STOP
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>>147633221
Off by one
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>>147633424
spotted the retard
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>>147633384
I'm left handed and the only thing I grab more with my left hand is a writing instrument.
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>>147633316
you know why
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>>147633424
grey=colorless=lifeless
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>>147633448
He wanted Munakata to live, anon. He legit saved his husbando, how many people can say that?
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>>147633384
shiiit, i never noticed what hand he grabbed stuff with. is he going to have to learn to write with his right hand now?
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>>147633223
No one, huh?
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>>147633299
that's basically what he says though
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What did he mean by this?
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>>147633510
Sauce?
Gay dudes getting humiliated by sexy girls is a kind of fetish of mine.
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>>147633119
Souda or Hinata could always bullshit up a robotic hand for him.
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>>147633537
Monoca leaving the planet niggah.
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>>147633364
>I feel like bringing back Nagito would have the best results in terms of plot because of his autism for hope.
Nah. I honestly don't understand why you people want to force him into everything just so he can repeat the exact same speech for the 7th time, especially since we already knew from DR2 itself he actually wasn't that important in the grand scheme of things, despite appearances. He already had his cool moments in Despair and that was enough honestly.
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>>147633384
Shit, this makes me even more sad
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So I played the last chapter of DR2 again and I found it was pretty strange how they described the New World Program.

They needed to reinstall their memories by letting them experience new things made up in the program.

If you see the episode where Naegi was brainwashed it was the exact same thing happening in his head.

Which means the whole NWP which Matsuda, Chihiro and Gekko made together was easily surpassed by Mitarai's animation tricks. Not to mention NWP needed your whole brain to work and had the risk of making participants braindead. So the brainwashing effect was stated very dangerous with such side effects in NWP.

If you think about it NWP was really just a joke compared to what Mitarai's anime could do.
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>>147633197
Mikan if she could be saved, because at least the others had some sort of happiness in their life. Her's was complete bullshit even for Danganronpa.
Probably the hardest to cure though I admit...
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>>147633556
Are you blind?
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>>147633316
So he's the one who put Chiaki in to the Neo World Program now, right? Chihiro/Alter Ego had nothing to do with it.
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>>147633206
>Tengan has golden eyes in Despair
>Has grayed out eyes in Future
Really makes you think
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>>147633618
Yes. Please write it to me in braille.
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Soon
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>Ikoroshia 8bitbug is my favorite track from DR2
>mfw hearing it during Nanami's execution
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>>147633223
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>>147633556
Sauce is in the picture, though I don't think artist has done any more.
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>>147633571
I'd give Komaeda mc role in despair arc honestly, at least it seems more fun to me than wacky despair adventures of Junko and 'How dull'
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>>147633650
>fucking tumblr repost
You disgust me, Kirijunko autist.
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>>147633664
>cannot unhear Nanami's screams
>never listen to the song again.
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>>147633316
>>147633622
Why are you replying to yourself?
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>>147633316
They were already big.
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>>147633590
Fucking something up is a lot easier than fixing it, anon.
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>>147633622
I think it was Miaya, her branch of the FF is apparently cyber security. Considering she was alive while Matsuda and Chihiro were not she would have been the leader of the NWP and used their work to create it.
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>>147633384
No need to be sad, my friend! Remember, stay strong. I have to say, your Juzofacts really entertain me and it gives me more depth on his character, thank you for that!
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>>147633634
Oh wow.
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>>147633707
(You)
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Can we all agree that Juzo is the worst thing ever?
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>>147633707
I'm just asking because that was going to be my guess after watching Episode 10 last week and that seems to be what they implicated at the end of 11 yesterday.
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>>147633424
Spiral eyes are full-on absolute/ultimate/brainwashed despair
Gray means they're feeling despair
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>>147633755
>Photoshop doesn't exist
(You)
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>>147633782
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
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>>147633508
Poor guy that will probably take him some time
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>>147633748
Just for comparison.
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>>147633384
They put so much thought into the guy.
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>>147633733
This is actually my first "Juzo fact" post, so there is at least two of us! Thank you, brother.
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>>147633757
(You)
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>>147633622
You know it. Well, Alter Ego may have a hand in it to a minor degree. Izuru could've sent her over to the Future Foundation as an anonymous donation, and they, not consisting of very sane heads, instantly accepted her without checking. Then Miaya introduced her to Alter Ego and Usami so they could be a little family and the rest is history.
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>>147633830
oh wait, i forgot he's dead. whoops. but in some alternate timeline where he survived, yeah he'd have trouble. i just tried writing with my left hand and it was difficult as fuck.
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>>147633813
Oh, I see, you really are paranoid enough to think that it's one person.
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So where did this take place anyway? I honestly forget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYCuP5p0hZo
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>>147633316
>Hajime recreated his dead girlfriend in AI form so he could be together with her again in VR.

This relationship was a lot more pure when she was created by the Future Foundation.
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>>147633717
Point is they are having the exact same effect on a human's brain if we look at Naegi's case. One needed the whole brain connected and time to work. The other just let you see something and affect you in an instant.

It was needless to say Matsuda didn't get his shit done right compared to Mitarai. Mitarai was able to understand neuroscience to the point he knew how to mess with someone's brain with just moving pictures.
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>>147633931
Rape dungeon
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>>147633931
underground. i think it's the same underground secret society that's in dr0.
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>>147633757
Your kind is not welcome here
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Are we going to see Munakata fall even further? This suggests Chisa had worse things in store for him. Why would Junko have class 77 do her bidding publically but let Chisa go fuck off to the Future Foundation for literal years and pretend to be unaffected by despair?
Is Chisa being despair just squandered potential at this point?
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Naegi-kun.
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>>147633872
>killed farmer
>punched hajime so hard that he became a super human
>allowed junko to keep doing her thing

That guy is genuinely worse than this fag
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>>147633933
But AI Chiaki being incest gives it a whole new dimension. I was ambivalent of real Chiaki before, but over time she really grew on me and I love what she added to the story.

Also, it's a minor bit of trivia but the relationship these three have is yet another Zero Escape homage.
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>>147633953
Mitarai just brainwashes you one way or another. I'm pretty sure Naegi wanted to do a bit more than simply brainwashing them in the opposite direction, he wanted them to be real people.
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>>147633982
muhkatana has done literally nothing right this entire series, and his two best friends lied to him. give the man a break.

and yeah chisa was wasted.
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>>147634007
>it seems my eye socket is wet
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When was it said Miaya was involved with the NWP anyway? I honestly can't remember.
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>>147633953
Naegi was just hallucinating. It's not the same as connecting someone into a fully interactive virtual world.
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>>147634010
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>>147633953
Naegi was just hallucinating. It's not the same as connecting someone into a fully interactive virtual world.
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>>147633316
>>147633890
>>147634016
Is this your new Chiakizuru?
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>>147634043
probably in the info dump in 2-6. it said the shsl therapist, neurologist, and programmer made it.
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>>147634043
Sometime during the investigation in 2-6 there's a pda detailing the NWP and how it was created using work from the SHSL Programmer (Chihiro), SHSL Neurologist (Matsuda) and the SHSL Therapist (Miaya).
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>>147633757
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>>147634050
you think he keeps the mask on during sex?
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>>147634104
Are you still delusional enough to not get that this is a Zero Escape reference?
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MUNAKATANAAAAAAAAAAA
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Okay folks, who's the super secret final boss? It has to be Junko in some form, and it has to be plausible.

Also, remember that we have 44 minutes of Mirai-hen airtime left, twice that of what we thought we had (Kibou is the concluding episode, titled as such for obvious reasons).
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>>147634115
Ah, I see. Thanks.
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>>147634157
Man, your writing style is soooo easy to tell apart, watching your theories and predictions get proven wrong every week is hilarious.
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Why is she so perfect? Never have i ever been so happy with my choice of waifu.
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>>147634194
>Okay folks, who's the super secret final boss?
Delta.
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>>147634147
I hope
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>>147634194
Kirijunko
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>>147632920
>Your face when Final Episode of Future is a wedding ceremony between Naegi and Junko

The only way to save the world is to turn Junko into Ultimate Housewife
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>>147634032
But the fact that Naegi was able to experience illusions so real to the point he fell into despair showed how powerful Mitarai's tech was.

I was stated in DR2 that NWP did the same thing as they reinstall hope memories in their brains by letting them experience illusions made up by the program.

That's the way they tried to make them "real people".
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>>147634194
Junko forsaw this happening. She's still dead, but she's the one who set this game up two years ago and entrusted it to Tengan or some UD infiltrating FF to organize it eventually.
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>>147634178
I think Munakata is handsome, I wouldn't mind sucking his dick
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>>147634222
>The Great Gozu will never pin you down and snort in your face
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>>147634039
>>147633982
>Chisa gets screentime in despair despite dead in future.
>"Chisa MUST be the mastermind, I mean, look at all this meta circumstances, it's predictable!"
>Chisa turns out to be a complete mislead because Kodacka knows you expect it
>"Wasted chance"
I'm glad he didn't go with the retardedly predictable outcome, tbqh.
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>>147634215
Here you go, Junkofag.
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>>147634072
But they reached the same result of changing one's personality.
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>>147633223
Reporting in, brother!

>>147633384
I never stopped to think about it, nice one brother! I find it funny because I too am a left handed person and the south paw is my favorite stance! This only shows even more how dedicated our boy really were, may him rest in peace.
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Reminder that Weedman is the mastermind.
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>>147634194
It's you, the viewer.
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>>147634263
It fills me with so much hope to see how far us Junkoanons have come. From the whole thread calling us insane for believing in a happy ending for her to silent acceptance.
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>>147634296
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>>147634104
I wouldn't consider this Chiakizuru since this was actually strongly hinted at by the show. It wasn't outright said, but I do believe the implication was that Chiaki in DR2 was inserted by Izuru, and not created by the Future Foundation.
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>>147634112

>These 3 faggots' combined efforts weren't enough for them to even remotely compete with this guy.
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>>147634263
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>>147634222
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Chihiro or Izuru, they're both great dads so I don't mind if either get confirmed as the one who created her.
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How often does Junko spank Mukuro?
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>>147634272
Naegi fell into despair before when Sayaka was killed.

If anything, Mitarai's tech just revealed that Naegi has the potential to become Ultimate Despair, possibly even equal to or greater than Junko.
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>>147634310
I didn't expect her to be the mastermind for this exact reason. It would be too predictable if the first death who also taught the remnants was the mastermind. I just wonder if she had another plan in motion for Munakatana.
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>>147634112
So that could mean someone that simply had those skills could have made it?
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>>147634263
>N-Naegi-kun
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>>147634354
Such is the power of the NEET
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>>147634376
>implying kohacka will confirm who's the father
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>>147634401
>Junko will never slap your ass
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Junkofags are trying so hard to be the new Juzoboys and it's just kinda sad to watch.
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>>147634421
possibly, if their creativity matches that of three people
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>>147634354
True. All their effort was really just for this guy's anime tech. And they still couldn't stop the majority of RoD from dying anyway.

Mitarai was the true god in the franchise people just didn't aware of it.
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>>147633982
If Naegi hadnt stopped him with bullshit hope he would have continued killing until every human on earth is dead.
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>>147634401
Very often, the smelly a-cup simpleton deserves it
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>>147634449
You did get slapped though Jin,by outer space gravity
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>>147634459
What is sad to watch is the quality of your sprite.
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It seems that Japan turned into quite a shit show from all that Hope's Peak shit.

Why didn't the other countries decide to nuke them?

Hell, why wasn't Sonia's nation invaded?
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>>147634421
The NWP didn't just pop out of thin air one day, they would know who made it. Especially since Miaya was still alive and Alter Ego was inside the program.
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>>147634339
People just ignore how similar Junko and Naegi are to each other, especially by their actions and circumstances.

They pretty much ignore how in the beginning of Future, Monokuma only mentions Naegi by name while ignoring the other Future Foundation members.

This story has always been a clash between Naegi and Junko.

Even the Junko AI in DR2 wanted to meet Naegi again.
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>>147634408
Well Junko said herself that the higher your hope is the harder you would hit the ground in despair.
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>>147634459
I know, Hope must've been too hard for them to handle.
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They were all speaking oppositely in this scene, right? Does that mean Gundam hated his classmates?
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is it bad that i kinda want junko back
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>>147634513
>Junko
>Naegi
>similar
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Anyone who seriously believes Junko isn't in Future hasn't really paid attention to the series. Like it or not, she's back, and she'll probably be bullshitted into V3 somehow as well.
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>>147633670
Translation, please?
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>>147634459
Juzofags mad that they remain cucked while Junko is going to get her man in the end.

This is the biggest difference between an Alpha and a Beta.

The Alpha, Junko, knows what she wants and gets what she wants without hiding her heart.

Meanwhile, The Beta, Juzo, keeps denying what he wants and doesn't get what he wants in the end.

The world is made for Alphas like Junko to breed and prosper while Betas like Juzo fade away and die out.
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>>147634272
>>147634321
It's just a hallucination. Naegi was seeing things in his mind. When you fall asleep and dream at night, your brain might think that it is real at the time. That isn't the same thing as the NWP.
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>>147634556
i don't think they were lying. they were being honest, but the meaning behind their words was fucked up. like, gundam's saying he's glad he gets to cause despair with his classmates.
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>>147634579
I also want her to come back so she can get the execution she deserves,
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>>147634408
I like how Naegi didn't resist in the slightest, immediately lost his mind, and tried to kill himself with no apprehension while laughing his head off.

Most of the other people died resisting the mind control. Seiko tried to bash herself against the wall to make it stop and Gozu tried to take out his eyes.

Some SHSL Hope Naegi is. He even got his waifu killed by moping around and not acting.
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>>147634510
That's what I was wondering too. But now we know Junko had brainwashing tech anything can be solved by that. Everything just makes sense now.
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>>147634579
It might as well go all in on the bullshit at this point. At least it would be entertaining that way, rather than trying to have it make sense and failing spectacularly like he has the whole series thus far. I still don't know how we're possibly supposed to take "brainwashing monitors with knives in" remotely seriously. It makes me laugh to think apologists will still defend it after this.
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>>147634609
Ironically enough even a dream would be closer to the NWP than what Naegi went through. He pretty much just had an extreme bad trip with Mitarai's video and that's it.
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>>147634605
Junko got dumped by Izuru though, by a dead girl even.
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>>147634194
Can I just point out that the only reason Aoi uses the extinguisher is because Kyoko used one a short while before to make a smokescreen. She just tried the same thing, but only when it failed to go off did she throw it.

I also feel like this happens before Aoi's "death" which would put the timescale off
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>yfw despair and Junko herself is now a meme, spreading to people the way Junji Ito's Tomie does
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>>147634480


The extra humiliating thing is, they were both developing the same thing more or less. A method to change a person's behavior. But whereas those 3 cucks needed someone to undergo a lengthy trip into a VR pod and cros your fingers that they'll learn the right lessons -- Mitarai can rewrite personalities simply by showing them a short video clip.
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>>147634654
yea its not like the monitors were foreshadowed oh wait
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>>147634605
I hate to tell you this anon, but juzo never had plans to breed. I don't think it has much to do with being beta.
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>>147634485
I still remember when people were asking "who still alive in the building can even deal with Munakata anymore?"

Well
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>>147634586
>Both gathered students
>Had a traitor
>Two talents instead of one
>The Future Foundation wanted both of them dead
>Mukuro only cares about these two the most
>Both of their sisters were main characters of their own spinoff
>Both know how to get people on their side
>In the process of attempting suicide, unlike everyone else, they did not cry but smiled in the Face of Despair.
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Honestly, the only twist in Zetsubou-hen that I've found appealing was that Izuru was the one who programmed AI Chiaki.

It makes quite a bit of sense, given that her AI personality is basically an amalgamation of everything that Izuru knew about her and stuff that mere research could reveal.
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>>147634737
Komaeda is trash
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>>147634737
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>>147634376
GUYS
I think I know who AI Chiaki's mother is.
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>>147634642
You mean more pleasure?
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> It's almost over and we STILL know fuck all about Bandai, Gozu, and Hot Wheels
> Candy Bitch got her entire life story told though

It's not fair
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>>147634747
HOLY SHIT IT WAS ALL PLANNED
KODAKA WAS SECRETLY UCHIKOSHI ALL ALONG
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>>147634747
>he actually thinks 3 was planned when 1 was written
Yeah, points for being the biggest retard in the thread. It's obvious it was supposed to end after 2, but after that did well Kodaka became Kohacka and the rest is history.
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>>147634772
Hajime and AI Chiaki are now Father Daughter Wincest
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>>147634796
For me at least.
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>>147634737
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>>147634772
>Honestly, the only twist in Zetsubou-hen that I've found appealing was that Izuru was the one who programmed AI Chiaki.
Except that hasn't been stated anywhere at all, retard.
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>>147634796
>>147634642

https://archiveofourown.org/works/4562604?view_adult=true
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>>147634756
>you will never impregnate Juzo
Why even life
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>Mukuro fell in love with Makoto Naegi, due to him being the first person to ever smile at her. She would often watch him from afar, as she lacked the courage to tell him how she felt. It was because of him that she begun to think more of the world outside of Junko's plans, and it caused her to have doubts when Junko revealed her plan for the killing game involving their fellow students, Makoto included.

Well, so much for that.
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>>147634758
Only because he was powered by Kirigiri death
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>>147634480
The hilarious part is that Junko even admitted that her mindhacking videos were only like, 50% as effective as Mitarai's.

Her SHSL Analyst skill is basically the SHSL Chinese Skill Knockoff skill.
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>>147634609
>When you fall asleep and dream at night, your brain might think that it is real at the time

That's exactly how they explained in DR2 why people can be braindead when they die in NWP though. Their body is alright but their brains are convinced that they should be dead and thus they are dead irl.
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>>147634816
And it was a melodramatic shitty life story too.
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>>147634837
You mean Izuru, Hajime is her husbando.
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>>147634654
I think people were calling the suicide part early on, but I am a little disappointed that the knives dropped out. Would have preferred if the Mastermind/16th person was just stabbing them after they died to fuck with people
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>>147634772
>Kirigiri fags completely clueless about the series.
The irony is delicious.
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>>147634862
Mukuro had to pretend to be Junko who loves Naegi.

Eventually, she started loving Naego too just like her sister.

The Despair Sisters x Naegi is canon now.
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>>147633982
This confirms that Chisa loved Munakata.

Wanting someone to fall into the deepest despair is basically a love confession to despairfags. I mean, look at Junko and how she gushes over Naegi like a lovestruck pre-teen.
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>>147634816
It was fucking awful too

>why won't you eat my sweets
>it'll kill me
>i don't trust you now
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>>147634816

> Candy Bitch got her entire life story told though

So we're just going to brush that whole rogue FF faction under the rug?
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>>147634737
Boat hope reporting in!
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>>147634772
Wouldn't it make more sense for it to be Miaya though? She's clearly competent with computers and if she used Chihiro's work as a base it would still technically make him the father. Considering the two Chiakis are almost nothing alike FF probably just used her student profile and guesswork to make her personality.
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>>147634832
probably had rough notes noting soild but whatever i agree it was suppose to end after 2
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>>147634862
I didn't read IF but damn that would've been a nice addition to the plot instead of the two 'lol so evil' sisters.
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>>147634954
>I don't want you to betray me
>So I'll betray you first
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>>147634862
Which of the two sisters has been ruined the most from this anime? Mukuro is just a slave bitch with no free will, while Junko is confirmed as a retard who just luckily stumbles into her plans.
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This turned out to be actual foreshadowing of the True OTP.
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>>147634605
>Juzofags mad that they remain cucked while Junko is going to get her man in the end.
>Juzoboys
>caring

>This is the biggest difference between an Alpha and a Beta. The Alpha, Junko, knows what she wants and gets what she wants without hiding her heart. Meanwhile, The Beta, Juzo, keeps denying what he wants and doesn't get what he wants in the end. The world is made for Alphas like Junko to breed and prosper while Betas like Juzo fade away and die out.

Junko is dead. She's as alpha as a flattened pancake you retard. She ain't ending up with "her man" as she's been flattened out and even if she appears your boy Hajimeme's gonna meme her to death.
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>>147634954
FF girls sucked, the only good ones were killed and we got focused screentime on worst girls like Chisa and candyslut.
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So Hinata programmed both Chiaki and Junko inside the game to find out who wins?

Pretty cool twist
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>>147634675
And that was enough to make SHSL Hope that even Junko couldn't really analyze into despair in a matter of seconds.

I don't think NWP was nearly as powerful as that "short trip" by Mitarai.
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>>147634816

And she just fucking died immediately after she did. No pay-off, no real relevance to anything that was going on -- just a massive waste of time.
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>>147634965

Boat optimism reporting.
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>>147634931
Previously it was told that Mukuro liked Naegi based on her own ideas, whereas this anime has her calling him a loser and suggesting to Junko that they should perhaps kill him if Junko believes he could be an issue. DR3 paints Mukuro as being completely Junko's lapdog. If you're saying that she falls in love with Naegi because "lol Junko loves him apparently" then that just reaffirms that she has very little of her own will.
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>>147635017
>Ruruka won't die, I'll survive!
>dies the next minute
aand there goes 4 episodes of a story that didn't matter jack shit in the end.
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>>147634579

No, I also want her back with more mind control shenanigans.
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> Tfw Naegi is now a latent SHSL Despair because he wasn't de-mindhacked, just interrupted.
> Tfw final bossfight is Naegi + Junko v.s. Izuru.
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>>147635001
Which is exactly wy a lot of us Mukurofags are so butthurt. Wasted potential. Just like Junko suddenly turning into a cartoon villain because Kohacka didn't think about any other way to keep his end of the world plot together..
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>>147635056
Hinata killed himself, what are you talking about?
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>>147634194
Memes.
Yes, I'm saying that it's possible Junko became a meme. One of the biggest takeaways of the last Despair episode was how Junko described it as a meme. Therefore, Junko is a meme in Mirai. You know how she's in the dagger? That symbolizes it.

I'm not saying it's definitive, I'm just throwing it out there.
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>>147634982
Miaya doesn't know Chiaki either, it's Izuru he even said he wanted her and Junko to test who's better between hope or dspair so accept it.
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>>147634354
To be fair, that's only because of AI Junko. Its purpose and the means by which it's supposed to achieve that are both much milder than the hallucinations you go through with his anime.

Under normal circumstances (Island Mode), the NWP is probably still much better, and especially more humane. I'm surprised Naegi isn't calling him out on it regardless of his intentions - even without Junko and even with the purest of intentions, that shit is villain tier.
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>>147635114
Zetsubou-hen was a mistake.
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>>147635065
Can you please stop replying to yourself.
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>>147635056
That was never stated anywhere. No no no.

Junko AI said that Junko made her AI and everything AI Chiaki says alludes to Chihiro and the NWP. Why was Usami working with Chiaki from the beginning and not thinking she was a bug like monokuma?
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>>147635149
Well actually he said if Chiaki's wishes come true and class 77 gets saved the her hope would be less predictable. He didn't necessarily mean actually pitting them against each other personally.
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>>147635112
No, I want a fist fight between Naegi and Nagito and a DBZ fight between Izuru and Chiakizuru.
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>>147632920
Reminder to all Chiakifriends, Kirigiribros, Juzoboys, and I guess Chisapals too that this will have a happy ending!
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>>147635100

Now lump that in with all the time wasted on Gekkohara/Monaka, and how much of this anime was spent on stuff that actually matters?
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>>147635065
The "short" part and the fact that it acts more like a drug probably have a lot to do with this but yeah, Mitarai's way was more effective. Although it's certainly also more limited depending of what you want to do with it exactly but this isn't realy explored in the show since it's effective enough for what they want to do with it.
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>>147635149
>muh headcanon
You're right.
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>>147635019
The Hope arc could easily turn this into a damn good intense love story.
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>>147634851
End of the last episode, retard.
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>>147635098
In DR1, Mukuro's FTE showed her wanting to introduce "a girl who is not afraid to show what she's got" to Naegi.

Now which girl best fits this description from Mukuro's own words?
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>>147635191
But he told Junko that they'll meet again and he consider Junko the face of Despair while Chiaki is Hope.
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So now we know Mitarai was superior to Matsuda and was the actual tech provider for Junko's whole plan.

Can we say that Matsuda got cucked so hard was partly because of his own incompetent?

And Mitarai gets to outlive both. Is he the real old man of dr?
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>>147634677
Not really
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>>147635236
Show me one clue that either her and Chihiro knew Chiaki, you can't?
Guess who's headcanon now.
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>>147635180
Did Junko outright state she made her own AI, couldn't Monaka have theoretically made it? She had an entire robotics company under her thumb and Kurokuma and Shirokuma both worked for her personally.
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>>147635112
>>147635112
>>147635196
>Implying Izuru can defeat Naegi.

Naegi has something that Izuru doesn't have after all, Ultimate Bad Luck.
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>>147634787
He is the best character in Danganronpa. You're probably just a despairfag
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>>147635180
Don't bother, they unironically believe DR2 has been retconned.
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>>147635263
When? You mean the 100th Hinanami reference this season?
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>>147634845
I meant for her. Who cares about you
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>>147635296
Everyone is going to die expect Mitarai. He'll have a hobo ending where he's traveling and helping everyone who he can
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>>147635174
What are you even talking about?
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>>147635283
He didn't know her plans for class 78 did he? He might have assumed he would actually meet her again in person but had to use the AI as a backup.
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>>147634648
It's more because the moment he grabbed the dagger, they switched gears from blaming him to forgiving him for causing their deaths, and encouraged him to hurry up so that they could meet again. Even in despair, Naegi's luck protects him and makes it a pleasant experience instead of the hellish torment that others were put through.
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>>147635001

As much as I am enjoying seeing NaegiXMukuro shippers being BTFO, I agree with this. Mukuro was a way better character as a broken human being who clung to her (clearly insane)sister because she had nothing else.

Too bad she's just a freak now.
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>>147635312
Don't you have a manlet to kill?
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>>147635018
How is she retarded?
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>>147635263
Izuru didn't say anything about making AI Chiaki though. He just explained his reason for starting DR2. And the result was unpredictable as hope not despair won.
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>>147635313
They used her school profile. they chose her as the observer since she was the only member of class 77 who was dead or missing rather than part of Ultimate Despair.
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>>147635263
>End of last episode
>Izuru: I want to know, which is more unpredictable to me, hope or despair
>Your Mindcanon Izuru: huhu I'll just make a Chiaki AI to clash against Junko AI xd
You're right.
>>147635313
>answer me this or my headcanon is right!!
>get told
>w-well now answer me this or my headcanon is right!!
Everything you say, it's the truth.
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>>147635191
That's precisely what he meant. Hope vs Despair to see which would interest him more
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>>147635376
What's everyone's opinion on Mukuro now being treated like comedy relief?
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>>147635366
I'm sure he knew.
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>>147635376
Naegi and Mukuro have not interacted much yet because they are still boarding up the school.

Naegi is currently on the Sayaka Route.

He will work on the Mukuro Route later.
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>>147635347
I care about me, and so do you faggot, now bend over.
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>>147635405
Hope nor despair won you idiot. Future did
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>>147635405
>as hope not despair won.
As hope nor despair won.

Autocorrect
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>>147634772
Man, that final scene when Hinata and Nanami were shaking hands and Izuru started his monologue gave me chills. It gave a whole new view on SDR2
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>>147634459
>Junkofags are trying so hard to be the new Juzoboys

how tho

We've been here since the begining. I faintly remember the DR:The Animation threads being full of us too.

>spoiling the anime only fags about who the mastermind was

felt good
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Bit annoyed that Naegi only wins due to LOL LUCK
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>>147635463
He never took the Mukuro route. Just accept you Mukurofags got BTFO with your ship
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>>147635420
Then how come for an observer to sacrifice herself to give hope for her friends?
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>>147635439
She was always a living joke.
Now her supporters can't even deny it.
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>>147635392
It was been proven that she can't predict that hope will win. But when her plans are working and spreading despair, it goes exactly as planned. Making her entire argument for loving despair wrong.
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>>147635513
Bit annoyed that Junko only wins due to LOL PLOT
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>>147635511
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>>147634586
They are really tailor-made for each other. Junko is the only one who will be happy to have bad luck around her because it keeps her sane, and Makoto is the only one who will be happy to have Junko around him because he is so genuinely nice and would naturally want to help her since he is the only one who can.

They fit together perfectly.
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>>147634851
It's one anon that's been pushing it since the episode was released, don't worryabout him
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>>147634862
>>147635439
>>147635376
>>147635001
IF was a mistake
Mukuro was a million times better as the opposite side of Junko as a founder of Ultimate Despair, and fortunately DR3 reinforces that
She was a villain and romanticized views of her were awful
I'm actually a lot more sad she's dead, she was a force to be reckoned with, swift, lethal and determined
Maybe she'll be back in the finale with Junko
>>147635270
The real Junko
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>>147634539
Retarded Chiakifag go and stay go
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>>147635230
Well that's why Mitarai was so good. His ability was probably the most powerful one in dr world. Even Matsuda that was supposed to be the best at the area wasn't able to mess with people's brains without having to make them go through a whole program.
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>>147635439

I mean, whatever, that's fine. Junko bullying her for laughs would fit how she was characterized pre-DR3 just fine.
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Junko x Naegi canon now?
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>>147635591
No.
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>>147634737
I love hope.
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>>147635519
I'm worried you may be having a stroke but the answer to your question is miracles, which they stated multiple times at the end of 2-5 and 2-6.
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What color do you think Junko's nipples are?
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>>147635560
What does Junko have to do with it?

>it's the buttmad Chiakifag

Oh figures
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>>147635591
No, it's Naegi x Monaka.
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>>147635591
Yes.
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>>147635425
Not him and I don't even have a side in this argument but you really suck at giving counter-arguments, don't you? If you consider this "getting told", my god. Either you cannot see implications (or rather what other people see as implications in this case) or you just consider anything not written black on white pointless (which would mean having to get rid of half of the plot in DR)

At least try to go against what you're arguing against, because if this is supposed to prove anyone wrong here, it's a pretty big failure
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>>147635591
Somewhat
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>>147634586
It's headcanon autism by Junkofags. Don't pay attention to it and don't recognize any of it. Just watch as their dreams come crashing down when the mastermind ain't even Junko and their idolized and romantized pairing (and villain as she's a literal shit) turns out to be nothing more than a meme.
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>>147635560
Bit annoyed that Hajime only wins due to LOL FUTURE.
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>>147634772
But that created a new mystery. How'd he find out about that?
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>>147635579
But he erase junko's memory in DR0 without any program or shit.
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>>147635629
Gyaru are suppose to have pink nipples.
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>>147635147
I like this
The will of Despair, etched into history, perpetually recurring through memes
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>>147635591
They moved to this now that Izuru dumped her.
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>>147635591
Yep!
Do it for the both of us, Naegi
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>>147635635
>It's a 'another Junkfag being assdevastated and shouting Chiaki is shiiiit' episode
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>>147635629
She has none, she sliced them off for despair.
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>>147635522
I realised that her character is only good when she appears for the last trial, listening to the same 'heh bored zetsubou; episode after episode is literally boring, even her shit eating grin doesn't look menacing when she does it all the time.
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>>147635636
It is actually Makoto Naegi X Monaca Towa X Nagito Komaeda
I call it Monakomaegi
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>>147634459
Juzofags forgetting they are newfags since Juzo as a character only existed in the year, 2016, while Junkofags have existed since DR1.
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>>147635147
Junko always was a massive meme and has been nothing more than a memecharacter that was horribly done.

>>147635591
It's headcanon, just Junkofags.
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>>147635740
I can dig it.

Now where's the doujins of that?
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>>147635766
But she's now such a massive meme that she in herself is a meme! It's... memetic!
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>>147635439
Her lobotomizing Chisa was hilarious
>how do I even?
>do I just poke around?
>seriously Junko I'm good at killing people not, whatever this is
>wait is it actually working?
>d-did she just cum?
>ok then, it worked, hooray
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>>147635689
who knows what he did to her dead body?
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>>147635744
>newfags
That term doesn't work that way on a character, son.
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>>147634816
I wonder why there was so much focus on her in particular.

At least Seiko got some development too compared to the rest
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>>147634112
>>147635180
Am I missing something here? How on earth could Chihiro had any hands-on involvement with a Future Foundation project like NWP in the first place, he got Mondo'd in DR1? Matsuda died before that too even
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>>147634772
he didn't fucking retard,
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>>147635560
>LOL PLOT

should be LOL MITARAI. for real though if mitarai didn't just give his faggot ass for Junko. The plebs wouldn't die, 77th wouldn't be RoD, the world wouldn't just went to shit so easily, Waifus wouldn't die in both dr3.

Mitarai was everything in Junko's plan.
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>>147635522
>the only situation she can't predict is one where despair is everywhere and makes people act weird
Seems to me she was right
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>>147634737
aeiou
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>>147635847
If only someone had the skills of those 3.
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>>147635817
>dead
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>>147635801
She's always been a massive meme. Just not the actual meaning of the word, just the version of the past decade of pop culture. Which is comparable to garbage. In the end her name was really fitting.
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>>147635737

Junko's the kind of character you have to use sparingly, or else she loses all her impact.
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>>147635513
It's literally his title, what were you expecting?
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>>147635694
Did he do that with just a few seconds of video? No.
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>>147635696

small nipples are the best

big tits with small nipples is god tier
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>>147635887
I don't think it'd be that simple either, because there's stuff like Monomi and Makoto putting that password in the game on top of that.
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>>147635868
Without Mitarai, Junko would find some way to execute her plan
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>>147634737
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>>147635847
His work was used postmortem, I'm sure he kept records and some of his programs were already being distributed before the apocalypse.
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>>147635895
>this delusional fag again
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>>147634862
dude they spend 2 years inside the school before they got there memory wiped out also in zero she saved naegi from urochimaru. IIRC the smile part was also there

desu kodaka just retcon things left and right even nagito is sometimes OOC
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>>147635868
So now we have a choice betweed
>A fashionista ended the world
and
>a NEET ended the world

I guess at least the NEET one has the benefit of working as an insert character for us.
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>>147635815
>Damn, I left my keys in there
>Is that her or is a tap dripping?
>Kay, now how do I give her a crazy accent?
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>>147635868
Mitarai is a living breathing Plot Device. His sole function is to move the story forward in the cheapest manner, Kodaka doesn't even know what to do with him in Mirai. Expecting him to die next ep in the most sad anticlimatic way possible desu.
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He worked on the NWP too. And since it's probably near sentient, Miaya or Naegi could have just said: computer make this girl an observer.

And there, Chihiro is credited as the dad. If Izuru created her, usami would treat her like a virus
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Reminder that Naegi was halfway into becoming Ultimate Despair.

Now Naegi is 50% Despair 50% Hope.

Could this be the Ultimate Human Tengan was searching for?
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Hey, maybe Miaya will get a scene or something after all, what with all this Neo World Program talk. Probably not though.
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>>147635098

Just throwing out ideas here but maybe she didn't got to know him properly yet?

I mean it happened "off screen" seems to be Kodaka's excuse for everything that the Despair arc didn't show
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>>147636017
see
>>147633890
.
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>>147636017
>Chihiro

She won't be credited at all. Kamukura probably just borrowed the program from Junko and never knew about Chihiro.
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>>147635847
Nowhere does it actually say future foundation created NWP, just that it was worked on by those three.
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>>147632920
Ok so I'm trying to get into this show I saw the first one, but I don't see a dangaronpa 2, so theres only danga 3? And two of them?

I just tried watching the first ep of danga 3 mirai or soemthign like that and it started off seeming like I should have some prerequisite knowledge
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>>147634737
Who /comfyonafridaynight/ here?
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>>147635868
Without Mitarai she can just use Monaka helmet's or Matsuda.
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>>147636051
I still don't understand that video
Why not actually put them in despair, have them kill another and then stay in despair?
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>>147636081
That's a lot of logic jumping that you can't just gleam out from despair 11.
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>>147635999
So much wasted potential for Chisa here. Damnit Mukuro, if you're going to screw with things, at least do it until the very end and give us a macho Chisa or something.
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>>147635992
stay mad mukurofag
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>>147636111
>she
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>>147635575

Making her an one note masochist villain is extremely boring, makes her character lack the complexity it already has

I don't think DR3 actually retconned anything, it just didn't show because the pacing was complete shit, just like we are suppose to assume that DR0 also happened
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>>147636078

Didn't the events of DR1 follow pretty soon after they sealed off the school?
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>>147636111
He's also the ultimate programmer while Junko is lucky to handle computers for a few minutes without them blowing up in her face, I'm sure he could have done it himself.
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>>147636126
You have to play dr2.
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>>147634737

HOPE STUDENTS BOYS
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>>147635522
Yeah, I don't really get her argument. She says she loves despair because it's unpredictable, yet everything works exactly as she predicted it to. Then she goes and says that Naegi is unpredictable when he's pretty much hope incarnate? This doesn't make a lot of sense.
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>>147636160
Rules of the game, anon. Rules of the game. It'd cause the game to end after the first sleeping period if it gets someone like Tengan or Gozu to keep up the despair act. Not only taht, but it'd just continue on and on and you'll get despair versus despair, which isn't the purpose of this killing game.
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>>147636126
Is this the new bait or something?
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>>147636174
not even mad, mukuro is still the best
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>>147636183

Mukuro's personality is completely different. Rather than feeling betrayed, she is ecstatic when her sister tries to kill her in despair arc.
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>>147636111
Them get me damn evidence Izuru created her.
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>>147636172
Not just from Despair 11, no. But I do know from other material (including Mirai-hen) that the Future Foundation is composed of a bunch of idiots, and assuming that Miaya is anything like Usami, she's a very sweet girl who would be willing to believe in the anonymous donor and add Chiaki.
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>>147635958
So how would she just suddenly make thousands of plebs kill themselves? By taking advantages of their families and shit?

Nope. If anything the anime showed was that brainwashing tech was a very crucial part that she was able to spread the despair to everyone so easily.

For real who will kill themselves or go insane just by seeing some random kids killing each other on TV, ISIS did that all the time and no one became crazy after seeing them. Now we know she had brainwashing tech on those videos and it all makes sense.
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Someone linked these in another thread.

Whoever you are, I fucking hate you. You killed my brain cells with this garbage.
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>>147636183
I'd rather have her like she is in DR3 than anything else
Villains don't need to be complex, they need to formidable and frightening
Mukuro breaking down with just a smile from Makoto was awful
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>>147636206
Go away reserve course trash
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>>147636261
It's heavily implied.
Absence of evidence otherwise.

There's your evidence, denialfag.
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>>147636283

lol HOPE
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>>147636177
christ I want to ruin that little shemale
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>>147636242
At getting BTFO and cucked yeah
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>>147636189
>implying the Ultimate Proctologist isn't able to handle computers

All she has to do is analyze it a bit (pic related), and bam: /g/ tier waifu to dethrone Maki.
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>>147636186
Hope's peak is a two year school program, if despair 11 was class 77's graduation then class 78 still had 1 more year to go if they had to wipe 2 years worth of their memories.
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>>147632920
Da hell is going on?
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>>147636266
>what is Monaca

She has other ways besides just her. If you think she doesn't then you're just retarded
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>>147636186

No, they spend like a year closed there iirc
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>>147636327
MAD
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>>147636234
>ff guys try to kill each other while they are hope fags
>once all remaining members are despair fags they happily embrace death and stop being at each other's throats all the time
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>>147636305
>implied =/= evidence

Fucking retard
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>>147636305
>Monomi and FF were in complete control of the simulation in the first part of DR2, so they could've noticed that there was a fucking extra person in there, thus discovering someone tweaked with the program and ruining Izuru's plan of installing Junko, thus preventing DR2 from happening.
So your headcanon, ok.
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>>147636253

She really isn't that different

She is like that in DR/0

DR3 doesn't actually goes inside of Mukuro's head except for a single line, DR/0 actually does that
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>>147636383
There's no evidence otherwise, moron. Just your headcanon, ironically for you.

>>147636388
>he's still retarded enough to not get that I keep saying that Chiaki was added earlier
well okay, you're a lost cause
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>>147636359
>Junko kept her monster of a sister locked up with her instead of letting her loose on the world
I understand she needed a fucktoy but that was a mistake
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>>147636234
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>>147636291

I guess preferences are preferences. I just think Mukuro's potential is wasted as making her just another masochist lackey of Junko when we have things like her final FTE that shows that she was having doubts regarding being Ultimate despair
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>>147636330
No HPA is a 3 year school. That wasn't class 77's official graduation. It was just marking the end of Hope's Peak Academy and their new path on being Ultimate Despair and fucking up the world.
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>>147635823
Candybitch has the "cutest" character design and the most angst
Is she popular in Japan?
The trio was okay, I guess
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>>147636155
She knew Matsuda for a long time though. If Matsuda had something good she wouldn't need Mitarai at all. Which was dumb to me because Matsuda was supposed to be the best at brainwashing stuff. Then Mitarai suddenly appeared because "IT'S ALL ANIME JUST LIKE DR3 ITSELF".
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>>147636417

>DR3 doesn't actually goes inside of Mukuro's head except for a single line,

There's not a lot there, probably. That's why.
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>>147636234
>>147636446
>tfw you fell in love with a fictional character with less then four minutes of screentime
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>>147636456
Or maybe she was acting?
Maybe she doesn't want to appear as a girl who would kill you with no second thought
She needed to avoid being found out
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>>147634816
Gozu was funny for me because somebody had made a "RIP" tribute to him before he was confirmed to have died.
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>>147636160
Because it wasn't the plan for ALL of them to die.

I'm feeling as we still don't know his bracelet code, and the automated text that kicked in, Mitarai was always intended to survive. I suspect his code was something like "never sleep closest to the monitors" if it wasn't "don't turn on your phone" (where the text would show up as soon as he turns it on). I'm leaning towards the reason being to create a scenario where Mirarai becomes the lone survivor/hero, gets his hope back from the stepping stones around him, and returns to making his world saving anime DR3: Hope
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>>147636155

What is she gonna do, individually put the helmet on every single reserve course student?
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>>147636426
>no evidence otherwise
>AI Chiaki having the same birthday as Chihiro
>Chiaki being siblings with Alter Ego who was created by Chihiro
>AI Chiaki says her father looks manly mostly when he's on his computer
>Chihiro is on his computer 24/7.

Kys please secondary
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>>147636464
It can't be, you have to already be in high school to be accepted for the next school year. Japanese high school is only 3 years.
>>
izurucucks are really pathetic
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>>147636474

Playing devil's advocate here

It seems like Mitarai's technique was designed to enforce a view into someone, Junko merely programed to forcefully enforce despair and the "kill yourself" message into anyone who was watching

Matsuda's techniques on the other hand, seem to be more complex, the NWP, the mindwipe he used on Junko and so on
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>>147636426

Wew lad.
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>>147636518
We don't even know what the plan was actually
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>>147636438
Well she killed her original fucktoy Matsuda and sent her other fucktoy Izuru away so it's her own fault
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>>147634737
HOPE BOYS
O
P
E

B
O
Y
S
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>>147636499
>get a new waifu
>dies few minutes later

This happens to often
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>>147636450
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>>147636426
And because Chiaki was added earlier she becomes invisible for everyone? She wasn't supposed to be there based on your theory. If she wasn't created by FF she wouldn't have appeared at all.

Let's get this straight faggot:
FF created a simulation to free the RoD from their brainwash, they go to a fucking desert island so no one fucks them in the ass while doing so, they put 15 people in the simulation. And added Monomi and Chiaki to take care of them. Everything goes well until Junko/Monokuma shows up and prevents FF from shutting down the program.
Which means that if they didn't created AI Nanami and noticed someone else was in there aside from the 15 people SUPPOSED to be in there, they would've shut the program down.
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>>147636499
I understand how you feel.
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>>147634737
>tfw share the same birthday
who else /April28/ here?
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>>147636525
Get Izuru and Mukuro to BTFO all of them and then place helmets on their heads.

Done.
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>>147636530
Don't forget everything she heard about her "father" was hearsay. Izuru didn't know Chihiro so Chiaki would have had to have heard it from one of the DR1 survivors.
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>>147636499
The magic of anime
>and she flew so majestically
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Post more Kotoko!
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>>147636609
My brother who is like 22 and on welfare.
Not so lucky now is he?
Hyuk hyuk hyuk.
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>>147636498

Oh wow great joke memester

>>147636512

That could be a possibility too, certainly

What is a fact here is that something happens that makes Mukuro doubts her sister's plan by the time of DR1, as evidenced by her FTE

It's a shame we didn't got to see that doubt begin to appear, wasted potential IMO
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>>147634373
Get OUT OF HERE YOU FAT PIG
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>>147636585
Your fault for loving for appearance, not personality
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>>147636559
They get scouted around their second year as we learned with UDH telling us Leon was 17 when he got scouted while Kanon who is two years younger than him was still in high school.

And it's literally said Chisa recently just graduated from HPA during the 77th class' first year at the school
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>>147636602
>wanting to fuck a robot

Anon...
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>>147636353
>Monaca

She was able to do all that shit because the majority of the world had already gone to shit.

And how could that situation happen? Because brainwashing videos. Nowhere in games implied Junko being so powerful that she had other ways to make the WHOLE world into despair. They just vaguely said she did it with her analyst ability. And Mitarai's talent was the only logical thing that could make all these shit happen so easily.
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>>147636579
Yeah but still wouldn't have allowed them
>hey Junko, who is he?
>him? He's Yusuke Matsuda, he's my +1
>+1?
>yeah, I talked with Mr. Kirigiri and he said we were all allowed another person to bring in here
>I never heard of this
>I guess it sucks to be you, well bye for now, Yasuke and I need to catch up; ciao
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>>147634194
The two who woke up from the NWP before Hajime and the gang
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>>147636711

>Speedwatcher
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>>147636576
>Chihiro
>Manly
>in the same sentence
Cannot compute. And definitely don't WANT to compute either.
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>>147636711
The robot's cool, but it's not what people really wanted.
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>>147636623
She literally said in her FTE that her father looked manly when he was typing away at his computer you idiot.

She knew who her father was and it was Chihiro
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>>147636750
OTP
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>>147636707
>Your fault for loving for appearance

Her innocent, pure, personality attracted me.

Just like my main waifu, Enoshima Junko.
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>>147636711
I WOULD fuck the robot, but the real Miaya is who I want to marry.
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>>147634354
They weren't just trying to un-brainwash the RoD, they were trying to override the memories of all the chaos and despair they caused.
Mitarai's anime just caused their minds to seek despair as an addiction.
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>>147636679
t. buttblasted mukurofag
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>>147636353
There is a difference between impressionable kids who you trick into doing bad things because it's the right thing to do, and getting teens and adults to just murder each other and themselves.

Also, her other ways didn't exactly work either. The four other kids went "fuck this shit" as soon as they realised how fucked up Monaca was, and Monaca herself got bored with Despair just because one of Junkos own servants wouldn't shut the fuck up about Despair. And of course, all the other kids had mind control helmets on.
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>>147636572

Look what the anime did to Chisa and the DR2 cast -- it can do a full-on personality rewrite.
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>>147634737
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>>147636804
All she'd be good for is head
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>>147636750
>Hajizuru says goodbye to the FF and sees them off
>once they're out of eyesight he spins around and marches back to the others
>OK, WHERE ARE THOSE 2? WE NEED TO FIND THEM, FAST
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>>147636756

coding naked is the only way to fly
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>>147636804
>She died just so we could have a random xd fake death joke.
Wasted potential.
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>>147635246
I love it when bacon gets ntr'd
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>Robots
>Pikachu girl
>Even ... Kotoko?
Fuck it, we need more celes in this thread asap
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>>147636438
How could you not come to the conclusion that Junko is just a retard who got lucky a few times.

> Hey, if that guys dangerous, shouldn't I kill him?
> Pfft, it's fine. What's the worst that could happen?
Junko's character in a nutshell
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>>147636745
Anon because of her analytic talent she could have found other ways to execute her plans. That's what you're not getting. If it wasn't Mitarai, it would have been someone else. Whether it was Monaca, Matsuda, Izuru whoever

She's just that broken
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>>147636853
That makes too much sense

>Chiaki is too innocent and treats seeing nude people as if they were clothed
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>>147636901
>She's just that bad written
fix'd
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>>147636778
I was agreeing with you cocksucker, she was created using Chihiro's work as a base. She had to have been created by FF, not Izuru otherwise she couldn't have known anything so personal about Chihiro.
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>>147635019
I said this FUCKING 50 TIMES over, but nobody listened
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>>147636882
Too bad Celes is way worse than all 3.
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>>147636747
Well yeah because Matsuda was already dead by then
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>>147636889
It's the first time in her life that she's met a person she can't analyze and she's not bored to tears, why would she kill him?
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>>147634737

>>147636665
I'm also 22, do you think he would enjoy hope as well?
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So uh... When did Zero happen then? That seems like one hell of a time skip they did and as a result never mentioned
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>>147636882
>gets shown in Future arc
>is dead
>gets down in Despair arc
>is a huge lazy cunt doing nothing

Cunt can go jump in to the fire
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>>147636846
Hey man, not cool.

>>147636944
Celes is still the best DR1 girl, honestly.
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>>147636889
>> Pfft, it's fine. What's the worst that could happen?

We not wanting despair now?
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>>147636572
And that's why I disliked the existence of Mitarai. He made brainwashing seem so cheap they could take over the world easily. That's why people are complaining about MINDHACC.

In both games and Zero it wasn't just a few seconds of video but actual effort being put into brainwashing someone and with huge risk too. So it made more sense. Mitarai basically made Matsuda's talent a joke in that regard.
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>>147636949
Obviously
Otherwise who knows what would have happened to him
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>>147636576
Funny how this shit changes when you view it in the context of Izuru
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>>147636978
That really isn't saying much given the general quality of the girls in DR1. Asahina and Kirigiri are both way better though, not least because of the utter atrocity that was 1-3.
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>>147634961
>So we're just going to brush that whole rogue FF faction under the rug?
yup. not going anywhere
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>>147636659
I want to marry her and treat her roughly
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>>147636882
I love her red eyes...
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>>147636970
Her majesty hasn't the time to assert herself in manual labour, its peasants work
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>>147636963
Between Munakata's meeting with Juzo and the rest of the episode. There really was a big time skip in between.
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>>147636889
Because you're retarded

>>147636929
(You)
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>>147636936
Because it was, and is still, bullshit from a character PoV.
It works as a meta-commentary though since the two are basically foils of each other.

And if anything the last episode fucking proves it; she didn't even notice Naegi before this episode when she gets something bad about him. So yeah, it was bullshit whern it comes to the characters and still is, it's just a meta-lampshading.
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>>147637041
I miss drunk uncle so much
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>>147636996
Matsuda is still needed for memory manipulation especially erasure
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>>147636962
>do you think he would enjoy hope as well
No, if I had to describe him he's more like Mitarai but if Mitarai thought he was a hard ass but pussed out as soon as he had to back up anything he said, and if Miterai was a fucking normalfag.
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>>147636901

I doubt that. Everything you know about Junko, the quasi-mythological status her powers had are now null and void. This incident was the reason why she had that status, it's her biggest "feat".... turns out she just had a living breathign plot device in the form of mitarai and just really lucked out.
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>>147637051
Would you?

I wish more (good) rule 34 images with her.
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>>147637056
>>147636978
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>>147636962
everybody loves hope. Some people just haven't realized it yet.
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>>147636889
Anon it's like you missed the entire point to her character. She's literally female Izuru who's bored with everything. She'll cling to anything that isn't predictable to her
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>>147637071
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>>147636901
She obviously can but there's no way as easy as brainwashing videos. And anything else would be too complex for the writers to properly conclude. That's why I said it's pretty much the only way we could have.
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Do you guys think Junko fucked Jin when they were locked in the school together?
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>>147636780
Ultimate Hope x Ultimate Despair = Ultimate Future
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>>147637124
I mean... Nagito is just begging for it so yeah.
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>>147636811

>Muh "t" meme

Kill yourself, cancer
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>>147637134
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>>147637124
Would you still bang her if Servant was watching?
I would
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> expect to Despair to focus on the SDR2 characters
> it's all just more Junko plus some anime only characters

This was the biggest problem
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>>147637115
She was literally ready to fuck up everything in HPA even before she met Mitarai and was doing fine with it seeing how she got to Izuru and how she was dealing with the board of trustees.
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>>147637077
>those frame skips

What happened in this episode? I remember seeing a short scene where Junko, I think, went full 60FPS mode when turning around.
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>>147635629
I asked Izuru but he just said they were boring.
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so does junko have the hots for naegi kun or what?
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>>147637210
>Juzo
>Anime only.
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>>147637207
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>>147637229
she definitely wouldn't mind fucking him, he's pretty cute
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>>147637107
That's a shame, you should teach him the joys that hope can bring.
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What's going to happen with her now?
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>>147637101
You didn't get my point. I said Mitarai's bullshit talent should not exist because of Matsuda.
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>>147637210
>expect to Despair to focus on the SDR2 characters
You were wrong to do so. It was never intended to do that. Admittedly, what we did get instead was just as pointless, but after 2-6 you should've known better. Outside of their time as UDs, the majority of the class will never amount to anything more than secondary characters. They were literally created with that in mind.
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>>147635847
This is the same kid who created an AI on a random Laptop in the library. I'm sure in 2 years he could've helped create the NWP and the AIs in SDR2
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>>147637244

CELES CHAIN
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>>147637268
But, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN!?!?!
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>>147637041
Anon, you may have just answered a very important question.

Namely, the "identity" of the 13th Branch head.

It's all so simple, but we didn't think about it. The younger people are assigned to the newer branches.

Nearly all of Class 77 was assigned to the 14th branch, with the exception of Asahina, assigned to the 13th Branch.

Or in other words...

In all probability, the Head of the 13th Branch is someone relatively young!
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>>147637176
It obviously wouldn't have been as fast and quick as brainwashing but she would surely with time fuck up everything but she took the more easy way out.

That path isn't really what I find interesting to say the least but I'm just saying she would have taken any other course of action if she didn't bump into Mitarai
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>>147637243
Killer Killer is trash and barely even counts
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>>147637309
LETS FUCKING DO THIS
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>>147637210
Anon it was never going to be about those DR2 fodders and you know it
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>>147637182
She probably did seduce him into dropping his guard down and keep his watchful eye on the class down while Mukuro just knocked everyone unconscious one night.
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>>147637182
Jin is the most attractive man available, so yeah
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>>147637268
she gets a new body
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>>147637182
If to you fucking can mean something involving a baseball bat, an ass and a lot of screams about despair, probably.
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>>147637344
It's still canon though so it counts
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>>147636518
We know his bracelet code. Munakata saw it and would even know it.
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>>147637041
>>147637092
>I miss drunk uncle so much
you can thank candy bitch for that
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>>147637209
Hopeman is just a stepping stone for good sex with Kotoko. He can watch and say some comments... I don't mind.
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New

>>147637366
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>>147637182
He's not Izuru or Naegi so probably not
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>>147637210
Well Junko said herself that DR2 cast was just chumps so you can't really expect them to be important in an arc revolving Junko.
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>>147637369
Literally all of the promo stuff was just SDR2 characters for that half.

I'm not saying that Ibuki had to be the twist main character or anything, but it would have been nice for them all to do more after episode 2. Imposter is really the only one who it feels like they actually expanded on
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>>147637429

Page 4
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MunaSaka wedding soon
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>>147637176

There is a better way, a simple and obvious solution -- don't show how she did it. Keep it vague, and maintain the mystique surrounding the character.

Of course, Kodacka is too much of a hack for that kind of restraint.
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>>147637329
But if she couldn't destroy the world as fast as using the brainwashing tech which was canon, the games wouldn't make sense anymore cause the world had not gone to shit easily.
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>>147634737
ESPOIR
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>>147636889
Why would Junko kill her future husband?
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>>147632920
None of you anons have discussed which boat is the best boat. You all are tsumaranai
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>>147634194
Some form of Chiaki seeing how she's the only major character unaccounted for in between despair and Mirai and there are no other characters left actually so that's why I think it's her.
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>>147637538
That's the best way. That's why people liked the games in the first place. They didn't have to take everything literally and shrug things off as a self-deprecating joke or something like they always did.

Now they just had to explain all the shit in the anime. Without the given absurd situation in games there was no way people would just swallow Monokuma's shit. So they had to dumb down everyone besides Junko just to make sense. Which was why it went to shit easily compared to games which had similar level of writing but kept things vague and funky.

Don't start shit you can't finish.
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>>147637778
I mean unless a DR1 victim didn't die which is unlikely since thatd be weird. I don't think Tengan's message was for Junko 3. So Chiaki feels like the only answer if the 16th isn't a random.
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>>147637619
The conversation about housewife Junko last thread was fun.
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>>147636576
>Izuru not being able to solve a puzzle
If anything, this weakens your stance.
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>>147638473
wasn't the problem if hope or despair was more unpredictable
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>>147633757
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>>147637182
If she did anything before killing him, it would be teasing him about his constant failures as HPA principal and as Kyoko's father.
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