Storyboard : Oshiyama
Direction : Oshiyama, ???, Ikehata Hiroshi
KA : Oshiyama Kiyotaka, Kitada Katsuhiko, Yoshida Kenichi, Toshiyuki Inoue, Enokido Shun, Sada Toshi, Go Hakuyu, Miki Tatsuya (eps 3) , Kojima Takashi, ....
Still looking for it. Kojima sakkan for first episode
It seems for the episode 2 & 3 there are two sakkan.
might be possible, but I don't think he will. Inoue has better relationship with Oshiyama because they worked on Dennou Coil, while Honda left it halfway (clashed with Iso).
Not really know the detail, but I heard Honda left before the anime airing despite being credited as Animation Character Design (that's explain why he only worked on some episodes).
Kraker's answer might explain it better than me:
Probably that's one of reason why Iso doesn't get any new project (because he demands a lot).
From non sakuga fans :
tl;dr : they're thinking too much about the story and get confused.
That's what you got from being plebs. Would be better watching anime for the sake of animation only.
That doesnt mean anything yet though does it? Maybe they are just stupid or the show needs more time to get going. The animation staff looks too impressive to be working on shit.
I remember when during the airing of Evangelion, Nips thought the same.
And now look at it.
Same with Madoka in recent memory.
And now look at it.
Flip Flappers will be held in the same standards as those greats.
Because once Inoue decided he will do a thing, then he will do it until finished. He said that in interview with Horikawa, he always has a target for each day (how many cuts he will do on that day), and never abandon it however difficult that cut.
I'm pretty sure he means is that there were three AD's credited together for the three episodes, and then guessing that Kojima did the first one.
There's probably one AD per ep.
Man I haven't even seen Mob but you're a fuck
Can't you just enjoy people pouring money and effort into the medium instead of having online dick measuring contests about who's got more frames?
Why does it seem like you want Mob to lose to flifla? If you like animation shouldnt you be happy that we get more than one show of that quality no matter who comes out on top?
Those boobs at 0:14 must be occult work.
This smells like some serious shit taste. FlipFloppers and the show i wont even name are not to be uttered in the same breath as Mob Psycho 100 without making it clear Mob is the superior one. You pleb.
The difference is that in FF the protagonists actually fight instead of being deadweight like RG. So both shows like be nothing alike.
And even with its shortcomings RG was still AOTS surpassing the other original garbage overrated by fedora tippers (death parade, yuri kuma)
Visually, it looks great, but I can never get hyped about adaptations of a work that's still going and therefore won't reach its conclusion.
I don't plan on reading the light novel either.
Its too extreme, hope she wont appear too often. Could kill the show for me, animation wise it looks really clean almost like the best scenes of Erased but all the time. Gotta look into who is doing this show.
>>Ikuhara idol anime
>FUCKING FUND IT
I can see him do a Takurazuka idol series. I bet he's been begging to do one for a long time
Maybe he could adapt this?
>RG was still AOTS
I liked it, but nah, Fafner EXODUS was.
>instead of being deadweight like RG
Wasn't that kind of the point? That wasn't the show's issue in any case. The real problem was too much focus on the mini-arcs instead of the main characters, and the mini-arcs varied in quality too much.
Phantom World still has the best animation of the year relative to the staff. Yes Flip Floppers, Mob and Yaoi on Ice look good, but their productions are full of freelancers and outsourcing up their asses. Bones, 3Hz and Mappa in-house staffs would never be able to make something like Phantom alone.
I thought it was okay, and I didn't read closely enough to see you were talking about originals. I didn't even know it was by the Code Geass director, huh, the more you know. 2015 was really bad, I don't know how you could think something like Maria was the worst out of all that shit.
Not the Moe that is loved right now apart from precure. Idol shows and shit like New Game is popular at the moment. FlipFlappers seems more like a early 00s manga adaption with ultra settings. Strong female characters and fiighting turns those otakus off.
>tfw I will never see Yutapon-jerking-off-himself-5 impacts-frames-at-a-time cuts on a KyoAni show
That would mean every kyoani show is the best anime animation wise every given year. The fuck are you talking about? Their shows look good but PW wasnt anything special. Dont get me started on the plot and writing.
It seems there will be some kind of character development for the quiet one. The red head already looks like the genki op character. Not really attractive to the generic otaku in Taiwan, who wants submissive and emotionally weak characters.
He doesnt stroke Bones dick that much, at least i didnt notice since i followed him for Mob psycho news. He just covers their shows most of the time. He is as hyped for Fliflappers or yaoi on ice too. Why do people make up that stuff all the time. Its shows a warped affection you guys have for those guys.
Name five Magical Girl anime from the last 5 years that was not Pretty Cure, Rebellion or Yuuki Yuuna, that were not flops, and were not highly divergent from the genre to the point where people argue if they really are Magical Girl, and where it's not simply girls that know magic, but actually part of the genre.
>it had no audience.
>Maria herself is a strong female character, in both the "well-written and believable" and "inspiring badass" senses.
Oh it will click on audiences
You realize that outside of Precure, Yuuki Yuuna, Rebellion and all the Mecha Musume crap there is very little stuff right? The two gainax ones, genei and time paladin is all I can remember even existing.
Will Yuri on Ice have a lot of pro-Japan propaganda as the Japanese Yuri manages to defeat skaters from different countries due to his superior Japanese genes? I doubt Hiramatsu would have agreed to work on it otherwise.
Why aren't we giving up on Chinese cartoons. The animation is not what it once was. Western animation is way superior in every field. Even the french topped everything anime have put out in the last few years with wakfu. Its time to stop being in denial.
I'm saying that it doesn't look good, last episode, and episode 8 were the only moments the animation "picked up" but even then it wasn't anything impressive or memorable, in a single word, disappointing. So far from the PV out of FF there's nothing that stand out, though let's see how it goes when the actual show comes up.
Anyone going to watch Naruto next week?
Japan was dominating the olimpics in some fields quite well. They value body movement a lot, so its not suprising for them to do good in sports. Their youth football team lost against brazil in the finals but were favourites up to that point and coming that far against all of europe is impressive indeed, real life captain tsubasa.
Not him but mob looks horrendous, like a walmart OPM with none of the flair and talent. I feel sorry for Crunchy because they tried to advertise it as the next big hit among normalfags
Look, even a master like Richard Williams admits the superiority of Japanese animation.
Here. It will be movie tier quality on a TV anime
Mark my words.
Pardon me. Mob Psycho doesnt look good? What the hell are you smoking, if Mob Psycho doesnt look good then what does? Like name 5 anime in the last 3 years that were better animation wise. You are talking out of your ass here. You can dislike the artstyle and visual direction but dont lie about it.
Do you want me to dump these 3x3s ?
Why does the idea of cute girls animated by talented old men excites me?
Cause only educated people care for autistic stuff like sakuga. I mean, i am an Sjw too, to some extent. Liking Anime means liking art that another culture from yours produces, that is already too much for most alt-right fags.
I just find it hard to be /pol/ when /pol/ calls me a degenerate and wants to censor shit. That kinda distanced me from the right the same way calls for censorship distanced me from the left.
I followed Yuta only for his food report.
Beyond Wander over Yonder and Motorcity, what notable cartoons have been made in Burgerland in the past decade? Not much.
French stuff is good, I'll give you that. But Japan is still by far the biggest producer of animation and as such has the biggest amount of good shows around, even if the good:bad ratio has decreased over time.
You gotta admit it's a good gimmick that works for the though. The studio gets a lot of praise for their work so why should they stop? They couldn't care less about sakubuta opinions.
>implying it looks good
And OPM in general looks better, Boros vs Saitama will live on as a classic, while Mob will only get spammed once in a while in this kind of threads as an "obscure" and "intelligent" anime.
Just you wait, there's one more episode of Mob left. Bones is sure to go all-out.
Thats like your opinion man. I cant put you down for not liking the artstyle but pls be honest and dont say it looks like shit. The world is not as black and white, you can have amazing animation and still be below OPM. No need to compare them and deem the loser shit. Thats just a petty thing to do and a waste of time.
I dont like ufotables style, never have but they should just do their thing. Maybe they will get it right sometime for me. Same with Kyoani though i like that recent style they had with koe no katachi.
What would they go all out on though in that episode. The chapter is based on dialogue, and the highlight point of it is Reigen telling these people to grow up and change themselves, i'm not really sure what's there to go all-out on.
But the end would be anticlimatic as fuck then.
Look at the chapters before 46. What Bones did in that episode was amazing. There were like a few panels of Sakurai vs Teru in the manga and the anime made that one of my favourite fights in the show. Hakuyu go did his thing.
Same with the fight next week. The whole layout, location and background are way different compared to the manga, they have enough source material to put in some amazing sakuga.
Are you serious about that? If so, get into cinematography learn the basics and watch some movies, then come back into animation and use that knowledge to enjoy well crafted animation even more. Of course basic animation knowledge is needed too so try to animate something simple real quick like a bouncing ball with and without squash and stretch for example.
"Sakuga" as it's known today is pretty much following Twitter / sakugabooru and hyping staff lists. If you want to not suck cocks I'd suggest learning basic film and literary analysis and come up with your own ideas on how animation supports a certain scene.
Symphogear was exactly what I was thinking about with divergent from the genre. That, and Kill la Kill.
They are both magical girl in my opinion, but they are very far away from the regular kind.
Well thats whats most interesting and exciting for people who already got the basics. For example i was hyped as fuck, when i heard Kameda was Character Designer for Mob. Its like being mad that moviefags are hyped for a new christopher nolan film.
why people comparing this with mob?
Arent most of these guy not even from 'murrica? Here in europe even if you are poor you can have a chance at education, so they dont really have to be rich, just college students.
I shitpost regularly about FliFla flopping but damn that song hyped me up. Please don't flop.
GJ cherrypicking all the negative comments on Twitter (probably from the same guy). Almost everyone is saying it's better than they expected. Also, yuri love triangle is real.
Because it's the twatter retards who make them in the first place so they can feel like anyone gives a shit about them. Notice how every thread is full of samefags and people who directly link Twits and "subtly" talk about themselves and their fuckbuddies as if they are reliable sources of information.
Yeah no, fuck off. If you want to suck your buddies' dicks online you can just do it in IRC as usual. Twitter retards are easy to spot because they post as if the thread is their soapbox. Attention whores don't belong on a message board. And kids who have no idea about film and animation and yet think they are knowledgeable because they pirate anime and remember the names of animators are not contributing anything of importance.
The random Japanese like in the title also screams twitter fag compensating for not being able to post on 2ch.
How about you guys discuss the animation and the animator's plus their technique (and perhaps industry-related stuff about sakuga or whatever) instead of shitting upon the twittercirclejerk and adding fuel to the stupid internet drama? Because that's what you are also still doing.
I dont give a fuck about them and i am quite suprised that you do even though you seem to dislike them by quite a lot. Why bing them up so much, Jealousy or what? Some of you guys sound so bitter. Why do you even care about sakuga threads? Look at all the other bullshit on /a/. You are fucking retarded dude and seem to have issues too.
Maybe if this wasn't a shit thread about unaired anime with only a couple of PVs. There's nothing to talk about.
Sakuga threads are pretty useless in the first place since it's always the same people posting booru links and comments with the depth of "wow looks good". Talking about animation in a vacuum with people who have no knowledge of history or theory of animation is a waste of time. That is, if you are actually interested in meaningful discussion rather than soapboxing.
If someone one day makes a quality animation thread then I will gladly contribute.
Why are you (still) posting on this site?
Maria wasn't a popular show, but it wasn't even actively hated.
It sounds like you're judging the quality of a show based on its popularity or lack thereof.
Based on that knowledge, then Concrete Revolutio would also be "bad" since it sold like nothing too. But that's a dumb way to analyze anime.
Only hipsters who think loose references to old shit is deep, and twitter retards who think anything is good if it has 30 seconds of good animation per 24 minutes of footage, would think this piece of shit is any good.
>30 seconds of PV when everyone knows that PV =/= the quality of the actual anime past episode 1
>but lets make a Sakuga thread about it anyway
>nobody posts a webm of the PV to discuss besides a transformation sequence that is a ripoff of Sailor Moon (as every show does)
I mean... what is even the point of this thread?
Stop trying to attack the fanbase, talk about the anime. I cant even follow you. How do you know so much bout the fanbase if you dont give a fuck about them? Cant you see how stupid you appear?
Hey link me to a thread you think is worth reading, thx. Fuck off faggot, if you are on /a/ for serious discussion. This is just a place to exchange opinions on softporn, nothing more.
Is this the first anime where the main protagonist is also a class president?
A 14 year old girl wearing an outfit like this, how scandalous.
No one knows and after the recent fan reactions to the first 4 episodes, i fear the creators do neither. Its all good though everyone will watch it either for the cute girls or animation anyways.
>magical girl show with good writing
Say no more.
I wouldnt put it on the magical girl genre alone, anime in general these days put more worth on being moe enough than good writing. I mean why not, aint nobody paying your bills for good writing.
Only good ones are adaptions of already decent manga. i cant count on originial work. How was 91 days actually stopped watching at ep 3 but not cause it was too bad. Worth picking up again anyone?
It wasn't for everyone. I like it but not much was explained in the beginning and it seemed to rely on mahou shoujo gimmicks starting out. I could certainly see characters grating on people.
It did not have good writing though. The characters were so unbelievable, it was completely carried by its plot (which ended up sucking with that ending), animation and music.
It's a nice watch if you can deal with the terrible characters, but nothing special.
I can't think of anything else that could end up with more obnoxious fans.
Sakutards are even more obnoxious than normal people with bad taste, because you can't criticize what they like in any way, it makes them mad even though they can't deny any of it. Just like Mob this season. They are drawn to flashy turds with no substance like flies to honey. They also never shut the fuck up about their one target for the season even though it's usually a mediocre to decent anime at best (as expected from people with tunnel vision on individual cuts of animation).
I'm just glad that the anime that is actually good doesn't get too much attention. This year had Rakugo, Tonkatsu DJ and Battery, all of which everyone dropped for being "boring" or looking "bad".
I dropped it, picked it back up and finished it. It does suck.
Mob is easily as "substantial" as any of what you listed. Battery was pretty bad from what I watched.
Mahou shoujo? I still enjoy Precure. Last anime that I 100% back is Eupho.
Anyone remember this one here? Why cant we go back to that artstyle. I am kinda done with girls looking like they are about to graduate from elementary school.
But Mob has it all, substance and Animation that helps to convey it. Also sakuga fans have different picks for different reasons. Some might even only watch the cuts alone from a certain series. Thats what i do most of the time.
>Kind of wish it was longer though.
Yup, unfortunately it's very overlooked.
I meant what mahou shoujo do you like. Though other than Yoyo to Nene and Heartcatch there aren't any good ones recently.
I mostly like toku magical girls, like Precure and Sailor Moon I guess. Last great one is Heartcatch in my opinion, although it only REALLY gets great after Yuri joins the rest of the Cures. Gopri was also good and I like Mahoutsukai a heck of a lot more than most. I thought Yoyo and Nene was just super uninteresting. What did you like about it? I think I'm harsher on movies because it's easier to compare them to actual film.
Mob is inconsistent and they made some very questionable choices during the adaptation. Flashy shounen fights are what makes people hyped for it. Ironically, the animation direction is formulaic to its detriment, when you know every episode needs its bit of paint animation it lacks any kind of impact. Definitely better than the last targets twitter latched on like OPM, Rolling Girls and ConRevo. I don't really want to write about what it does wrong again since the standard response is to call it bait (because sakuga target of the season can do no wrong until everyone forgets about it after it ends).
Seems standard for most "sakuga" fans to think good animation is individual cuts in a vacuum. Anyway, it's pretty silly to judge a series without watching it outside of booru shit.
>Mob is inconsistent and they made some very questionable choices during the adaptation.
I don't really know what you're talking about here.
>Flashy shounen fights are what makes people hyped for it.
That's a bit of a generalization, I think. I'm pretty fond of the characters and I enjoy seeing where the story's going. I certainly wouldn't be watching if all that kept me coming back was flashy shounen fighting.
>Ironically, the animation direction is formulaic to its detriment, when you know every episode needs its bit of paint animation it lacks any kind of impact.
I agree with that to a point, but it's still pretty neat to see if only as a novelty. Formalism is very rare, especially for a TV program so it's a treat no matter how they use it. Could it have more tact? Heck yeah, but I won't complain.
Is it a great show? No way, but I think it's pretty solidly above anything else that's come out this year.
No, i dont think so just liked the general artstyle. If you or anyone want to watch a really good magical girl show. Check out Doremi. I always say that FlipFlappers reminds of that series just with more sakuga and a fresher artstyle.
You sound like you know the source material, but then you should also know that Mob wasnt loved cause of its good looks no? I do think some people are missing out on some of the themes cause of the excellent animation, but i guess they need more time to get used to this series and its message. By the time they get to the famous Mogami arc, everyone should have gotten it.
>Is it a great show? No way, but I think it's pretty solidly above anything else that's come out this year.
I agree, except I wouldn't say it's above anything else this year, I still prefer Rakugo and Tonkatsu DJ. With Mob the flaws stick out too much. Worth a watch for the production value, but ultimately lacking.
I like both of those too, along with Re:Zero they pretty much round out all I enjoyed so far. I think Rakugo is a bit too steeped in cliche for a narrative driven show, though, and TDJA is just very, I dunno, inconsequential? And not just because it's a short, there are shorts which have left me deeply satisfied but this one was merely entertaining.
Oh me too, I don't think any of them are all that special. Although I'm not watching Jojo. I want to read it first.
Yuri baiting is so fucking garbage.
Isnt the Anime doing a pretty good job with the adaption. I am up to date with the newest episode of part 4 and didnt read anything from the manga apart from steelballrun, which by the way is my favourite or equal to part two. Am i missing out?
Fuck, i kinda am a bit sceptic too now. Those fan reactions didnt help either. The first 4 episodes might be a chore to go through. Reminds of Kiznaiver, hope it doesnt end like it or even has the same Quality start.
Dunno. I dropped the 2012 anime opted for the manga instead, but it's the worst part and I didn't enjoy either anyway
Never watched Stardust Crusaders because it looks like shit
>didnt read anything from the manga apart from steelballrun
What the fuck are you doing nigga? Never read out of order.
> KA : Oshiyama Kiyotaka, Kitada Katsuhiko, Yoshida Kenichi, Toshiyuki Inoue, Enokido Shun, Sada Toshi, Go Hakuyu, Miki Tatsuya (eps 3) , Kojima Takashi, ....
Still not impressed. Literally whos besides Inoue.
>the animation direction is formulaic to its detriment, when you know every episode needs its bit of paint animation it lacks any kind of impact.
This is an interesting point you raise, I find myself expecting the obligatory paint sequence every episode now, but is that really a bad thing? At the very least I'm just happy to see an obscure technique given mainstream notice. But that aside, I don't see any missteps in Mob Psycho's approach towards animation.
Because gimmicks always screw up the writing somehow. The sakuga one will have some dumb cop out ending or twist and the deathmatch one will have poor pacing and characterization and then just out of sticking to the book the mediocre one will come out on top as the more watchable.
Having just 2 main girls over an ensemble is sort of a gimmick, and given the flippant (pun intended) art style I bet you the story will be a tone deaf mess like Rolling Girls.
It's a troll you doofus.
That doesn't really come of to me as gimmicky, and I don't see how stylistic choices like that could, in your words, "screw up the writing." I really hope it's not as bad as RG but I don't see how they can be compared besides a) they're pretty and b) we didn't know much about them, going in.
Anime, being the purest form of destructive escapism, has always been degenerate.
>I don't see how stylistic choices like that could, in your words, "screw up the writing."
Not that guy, but it can happen if the staff somehow believe that the premise and animation/art style alone are enough to sell the show and neglect everything else.
Only time will tell if this is the case, but it wouldn't be the first time a promising show goes to shit due to poor writing and direction.
> he thinks it's meme
I don't know, I just saw Oshiyama and Kojima following him on twitter (also Iso), he also RTed the rakugaki made by them. If it's not flip flappers, then probably he works on Occultic;Nine.
I assume the third is the blondie, school friend of MC. She probably secretly has hots for her.
Woah, since when did /a/ actually give a fuck about animation?