Macross Δ

>>147547399
UHIHIHI

How was Frontier good and Delta shit?

What kind of brain problems are the creators suffering from?

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Not so smug now isn't it, Mikumo?

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>>147547929
Better question: Why are these two so perfect together?

>>147547929

Frontier was planned out better. I think Delta was better for the first 10 episodes or so but it just got lost after that.

>>147548413
I wonder if that guy who hated her loved the last two episodes, or if he had dropped the show already.

>>147547929
Frontier was bad but Delta is shit. The writer and director should be banished from the industry.

>>147549337
See you in sunday.

>>147549337
Sometimes I think that Delta threads are filled with bots re-posting the same shit with slight modification in every thread.
I saw this post like 3 or 4 times.

>>147548953
Because they're destined for each other.

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I wish something like this would happen at the end of Delta. I like how Heinz has a sort of respect/awe for Freyja because of her songs feel like "the sun"

>>147549121
It was steadily good up until episode 18. When episode 19 aired, shitposters took over. Show's gotten better but some still can't get over those horrifyingly boring 3 weeks.

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Today's Hayate's birthday. Let us all sing for the blue haired hippy! Or just let Freyja do it.

>>147549974
14 is when the show tanked. They moved the climax to the midway point and were left with nothing to top it for the rest of Delta. People can't be blamed for being angry.

>>147552451
14 itself was a bad episode. 15 wasn't bad because it had the mecha combat we wanted, though it sparked arguments from Windy and NUNS fags. That's not bad though, those arguments are actually enjoyable. Of course most can agree 16 was incredibly nice, 17 had concerts and HayaFre faggotry so that was also good. 18 had combat once again and the threads were filled with people wanting to know more. It was 19 where the show began boring people CONSISTENTLY because nothing happened for 3 weeks. 22 to last episode is as good as the first cour. Last episode might be good too unless Freyja dies. Just saying the second cour isn't as much of a travesty as people make it out to be.

>>147551313
Just fuck that little hoina already.

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My precious Gori Gori Princess

The apple of my eyes

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>>147554578
The most precious

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>>147554753

So what songs are you guys hoping to hear during the final battle besides Do You Remember Love? I want to hear Ikenai Borderline, OP2, and Hametsu no Junjou.

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My sides

>>147547399
>UHIHIHI in a deep male voice

>>147555272
I can't read chinese :(

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>>147554790
She looks really cute here actually...

what do you think hayates dick looks like?

also which walkure girl has best pusi

>>147555051
TOBERU AI NO

>>147557254
KISSU DE

Album leak where

ded franchise
ded thread

>>147558120
yet you are here son

>>147547399
Freyja a best.

>>147559964
Good taste desu senpai

>>147552701
I agree. But you can a bit further and admit, that overall, the 2nd cour has lacked the consistant energy the 1 cour had, and then they put 19-21 after each other, rather late into the already noticably slower 2nd cour, which was a bad move.

I'm reminded of the time Frontier was airing, any my desire to finish watching that show was completely killed in the 2nd half. I did watch it though and own all it's BD's. I will probably end up with all of Delta's too as long as the last episode doesn't betray me.

>>147559964
a best indeed

>>147559998
Yeah, first cour is definitely better. Just that the second isn't terrible. Not bad, but lacking. Hopefully the last episode's battle will make things worth it, though to be honest, a HayaFre end is what I hope for more than anything.

Is there any occurance of pin-point punch coming from a Valkyrie in Delta? I remember Valkyries from frontier and plus have that function

>>147547929

Frontier = effort
Delta = no effort

Issues run deeper but that sums it up rather well.

>>147562127
Well, Frontier was made for 25th anniversary. Delta is just Delta.

If only a good studio like ufotable worked on Macross.

>>147562323
Ufotable are not that good. Bones though.

>>147562340
Gainax or Sunrise would be okay.

>>147561765
there was a gamlin kick in episode 6

>>147562385
Sunrise is fine. Gainax is long dead.

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Windermere genocide when?

>>147562490
7 years ago. This was glorious payback for those evil assholes who comitted it.

>>147562525
That was one nuke. Genocide means lotsa more killin'. You need to be kunnin and brutal for that.

>>147562525
>>147562525
>This was glorious payback for those evil assholes who comitted it
Why can't the writers be like using Mikumo to mind control the approaching NUNS fleet, ordering them back to their HQ and just MDE heck out of everything. Isn't that better?

>>147562593
That would be too clever for Delta writers and beheading decentralized government does nothing.

>>147562630
Writers have to be clever now to pull something spectacular to savage their shit writing. Seriously.

>>147562525
the windermerans are a threat to the galaxy with the song of the wind and stars, they should have glassed the planet 7 years ago.

>>147562593
Probably because the Windies don't like the idea of using nukes or MDEs on planets.

>>147562704
They did not expect Windies to be smart enough to bite them back. Windies without the help of Epsilon Foundation is basically shit.

>>147562593
How is the whole NUNS organization suddenly evil, they are the saviors of humanity and now they are the big bad?

>>147562727
Mind controlling is surely better.
>>147562746
Because typical Japanese projections.
>>147562688
Too late. There's like 1 episode left. They tried their hardest to shove idorus everywhere.

>>147562746
NUNS have never been good. What macrosses have you been watching? Original macross they were assholes. Only the crew of the macross were good. 7? They were assholes, only those part of macross 7 were good. Zero? Assholes. Frontier? Assholes.

Why are you surprised they are unsympathetic assholes again in Delta?

>>147562746
To Heinz and co. the whole of NUNS is bad. They are dead set in destroy the whole NUNS, i don't think they are aware that NUNS is decentralize government.

>>147562798
they still maintain the infrastructure and spread of humanities colonies since the end of the space war.

>>147562845
I guess windies are too stupid to guess that hiding ancient weapons from big brother was a very bad idea. They deserved that bomb, too bad it missed the destination.

>>147562630
NUNS are the military forces which are still centralized.

>>147562776
Never said mind controlling was better, just that Windy environmentalism means they wouldn't have sent a mind controlled fleet to drop MDEs on Earth.

>>147562737
they can't even maintain the starwind sector without actual slaves and stolen equipment. there is also the fact the using mind control will make the whole galaxy want to fuck their shit up.

>>147562906
NUNS isn't the government, NUNS is spacy. The government representative complained about NUNS actions in Windermere according to the novel and he ended up mysteriously dead.

>>147562919
No, they are not. There's central command, but every fleet/colony armies act like separate branches of NUNS. Frontier guys, for example.
>>147562958
Now that's cartoonishly evil. Japs pls.

>>147562988
>cartoonishly evil
tbf doesn't it happen irl too

>>147563011
Usually in 3rd world shitholes. I don't think big galactic government is 3rd world shithole to murder it's own inspectors.

>>147562798
>They were assholes, only those part of macross 7 were good
>"were good"
The UN Spacy HQ turn down all negotiations with Max and they deliberately refuse to provide any assistance for the Macross 7 fleet in dealing with the Protodeviln threat. The higher ups told them to clean up the mess themselves. the UN spacy did jack shit

>>147562688
Writing isn't even bad. Pacing is just shit.

How can NUNS be that stupid enough to not nuke the instrument that appeared at Ragna? What a joke.

>that sinking feeling that Freyja might not make it through the last episode

I'm gonna have to avoid this place and be a wreck until the subs come out.

>>147563200
I guess central command are Walkure fans.
>>147563220
Why? The only one who can die is Roid.

>>147562746
>implying

Play Macross 30 anniversary game. NUNS higher up and croonies nearly fuck up the entire universe while heroic SMS kick their asses.

>>147563200
They are on the way to save Ragna

>>147562988
>There's central command, but every fleet/colony armies act like separate branches of NUNS.

No, NUNS still have a central command they take orders from, it's in Macross 30. The NUG, the government (civilian), is the one decentralized.

>>147563339
Weird, in Frontier president of said fleet autorized usage of WMD and experimental tech. Retcons suck.

>>147563057
He denounced NUNS shitty treatment and he appeared dead floating down a river. Guy accidentally fell drunk, even if he never drank a drop of alcohol.

>>147563337
>They are on the way to save Ragna
I mean, the war could have easily ended if NUNS concentrate half of their MDE nukes onto the Ragna instead of using all their 8 MDE nukes at the Windies. If they know Windies are setting off course to Ragna, why not blow the thing up before they reach the place?

>>147563399
I thought that was the fleet going to Ragna?

>>147563384
just like committing suicide with 2 shots to the back of the head

>>147563384
Anyway NUNS had all the rights to shit on windies because mr. Immelmann found something VERY wonderful hidden deep beneath royal castle.
>>147563399
Supposedly WMDs don't werk on ruins.

>>147563368
Yes, because he had to call to the central bosses to deal with military shit. The government is independent but the military is not. The ones who stirred shit in Windermere were the military forces. Windies don't know the difference because this wasn't explained to them.

>>147563439
It's a retcon anyway. And windies are boring and shit. It's like Eruseans, but worse because they wage war for nothing while backed up by nothing.

>>147563368
>Weird, in Frontier president of said fleet autorized usage of WMD and experimental tech. Retcons suck
The bad guys of NUNS stationed in Frontier are in cahoots with Grace by using the Vajra as an excuse to research and develop experimental tech. Not to mention Frontier is actually pretty much advance second on to Macross Galaxy.

>>147563437
No, they didn't. They weren't shitting on Windies over that. They were after their fold quartz and treating them like shit for twenty years before that until Gramia got tired of their shit. Gramia tried to negotiate and they turned it down. They brought this shit to themselves and their bullshit method made them angry enough to bring this conflict to the Galaxy.

If they had left Windermere alone, they would have been contently farming their apples and trading their fold quartz. Instead they went full retard early morning cartoon villains and got their asses exploded.

>>147563469
We don't know shit about other fleets sans 7. 7 had fold tech.
>The bad guys of NUNS stationed in Frontier are in cahoots with Grace
Only Leon in TV and neither in movies. And the result aka Durandal and fold tech were worth it.
>>147563497
>If they had left Windermere alone, they would have been contently farming their apples and trading their fold quartz.
They would subjugate to humans sooner or later. Humans are superior. Zents learned that.

>>147563437
>Supposedly WMDs don't werk on ruins.
Then why does Major Valak even plan to ironically use 8 nukes to blow the protoculture ruins at Windies knowing that WMDs don't werk on ruins?

>forgetting former White Knight of Windermere was a SMS member who fought Galaxy Lucifers

NUNS exploded a hero who helped to save Frontier and stop Galaxy. If Adria had been alive, none of this would have happened.

>>147563111
Yeah, thats what I am saying only those part of macross 7 fleet were good. Max et all.

>>147563517
NUNS are drooling retards shitting their pants every fucking day. What did you expect, competence?
>>147563528
>If Adria had been alive
He'd execute Roid on spot for treason.

>>147563515
>humans
>superior

Zents are failures.

>>147563537
I don't think he would have let things go out of control. He would also probably notice Keith was deeply disturbed by the explosion and have a chat with him because his father is a failure.

>>147563541
>Zents are failures.
Not so much. Overly agressive, yet capable warriors. Too bad protoculture was Thrint-level retarded.

>>147563562
Windermere were made to shit on them. It's a meta way to say that Mirage was always going to lose to Freyja.

>>147563560
And he would probably properly negotiate with NUN(S) and everytime there'll be flamenco playing in the background while he's onscreen.
>>147563578
And they failed to shit on zents. Cool batteries, but nothing special.

>>147563515
>Only Leon in TV and neither in movies.
>And the result aka Durandal and fold tech were worth it.
Didn't Leon in the movies use fold tech implant to control the Vajras? How is he not evil?

>>147563602
>using non-sentient bugs as a tool
Kinda works. They have hivemind, they are one big organism.

>>147563589
I think being a SMS member would give him connections to weed out the bad apples of the NUNS in the zone because he could have denounced they were being framed. Losing him meant the planet became isolated when the evil NUNS leaders pinned all their fuck ups on them and the idiotic cluster planets believed those lies.

>>147562101
>マクロスΔ
Cute

>>147563589
>And they failed to shit on zents.

How? They can easily fuck them up according to every official source. Kawamori hates Zents, and he's taking a dump on them with Windermere, his new precious species.

>>147563643
It's less being an SMS member and more of being not-retarded. Was it REALLY that hard for windies to phone the central goverment on Earth?
>>147563666
Too bad zents were doing wars n shiet while windies sucked some dicks with no useful protoculture tech left and with very short lifespan.

>>147563231
>The only one who can die is Roid.
You know what? Maybe we will get a MUH friendship scene between Roid and Keith and no one die.

>>147563691
Earth did send people there and the NUNS killed them off. I mean, they died tragic incidents. They were just too far and peripheric when the new shiny issue to deal with was the galactic wide var outbreak which began after the Vajra left.

>>147563699
We already got one, it was gay as fuck. Killing them both would be even better. Too bad fighting will be at Ragna, now Windermere. No cold and snowy day.

>>147563699
No, Roid will definitely die. Maybe Keith too if he pulls a Brera and kamikazes Roid in his protoculture ship.

>>147563718
>Earth did send people there
And windies never sent an ambassador to the General Assembly of NUN? Weird. If you want muh peace, then do muh peace.

>>147563439
I'm pretty sure the novel spoilers posted here said it was Earth's government that was fucking around.

>>147563738
Windies tried to negotiate before the war and got their attempts cockblocked (thanks to NUNS). In general before the show gave a turn (Yasuda changed his mind about the antagonist), Roid's reason to take the cluster was to negotiate with Earth without interference. Keith believed that, he has no idea Roid turned down negotiations because nobody told him they changed the script.

>>147563751
No, it was the NUNs. The military forces stationed there (and yes, depending on Earth central office but it's not the government branch, it's the military one). The representative of the Earth Government who denounced this shit met a tragic accident.

>>147563786
They negotiated with local NUNS branch. Sending an ambassator to General Assembly would be much easier than buying some planes and fighting an uphill battle while feeding your infant prince/king to the machine. AC4 was back in 2001 and Eruseans are much better antagonists. Did 15 years somehow kill japaneese ability to write?

>>147563812
Him saying that Earth never made a fair trade agreement with the Windies would seem to be indicating that he was criticizing the Earth government, not the military.

Is Freyja technically reaching cake status?

>>147563858
No. Their aging is unnatural.

>>147563867
But by windie standards? She was supposed to get married at 14.

>>147563925
That does not make her a cake. Anyway the lifespan will be fixed.

Where was the first album leaked?

>>147564074
I mean who leaked it last time.

>>147564087
dunno, it just appeared on nyaa. not sure if there's where it appeared first

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>ywn be Rei Rei

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I WANT TO MAKE MIKUMO INTO A MOTHER

>>147563858
Early cancer doesn't make you a cake.

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Hnnng

>>147566481
Oh that's just nice.

>>147549121
It almost seems like they decided to rewrite the second half at the very last moment. There's such a stark contrast between the two cours than I'm suspecting there was some executive meddling from behind the scenes.

>>147565630
Someone get this toddlercon the fuck out of here.

Reminder: Mirage is so irrelevant that even her birthday is outside the series time frame

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>>147566481
I like this.

>>147563666
Kawamori hates zents? Is this why Mirage is such a failure? How could he hate such magnificent giants?

Walküre Trap and second OST leak fucking when

>>147567198
>hayate's walkure costume
damn it actually looks good

>>147549121
>>147566592
The plan was 13 eps and a movie.

>>147566481
Loli Freyja is fucking precious.

>>147566728
>Even Chuck is more relevant than her.

How can Gamlin NTR Mylene for Basara?

>>147568419
Poetry

>>147563515
Humans are retarded apes proving again and again how stupid they are. All the shit that happens in every Macross is their fault. Remembr that time they unleashed the Protodeviln? Or tried to play with giant bugs and got millions of people kill?

Vajra are the master race, even Protoculture agree.

>>147569048
Get outta here shitty tyranid ripoff.

>>147570117
aren't the vajra stronger than them?
vajra master race

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FreFre

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So what if Freyja really does die? What if the future of Hayate and Mirage's relationship is left ambiguous? I'm one of those guys that doesn't think the second cour is downright bad and that the show as a whole is pretty alright. An ending like this would actually ruin the entire thing for me.

>>147555051
>Final battle.

I doubt we'll get anything close to being an actual battle. Most we can expect is a schoolyard scuffle.

>>147571672
They wont be getting my money if they do that

>>147571672
I mean they COULD do it...but it's a risky move and many of the fans would be upset since Freyja IS the fanfavorite, the MC, the Idol, the face of Delta, the Delta cashcow and one half of the Triangle OTP.

It wouldn't be that well received. I personally plan to purchase the BD's once Delta has finished airing but only if the final episode is good and Freyja gets a happy end. If she doesn't, I won't invest my money in it.

>>147572408
t-translations, senpai?

You know, I've always loved how Hayate and Freyja act like playful idiots when they're together. S'cute.

>>147572398
It wouldn't be such a risky move if they actually developed Mirage and didn't stall Hayate and Freyja's relationship for the sake of exposition episodes.

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>>147573046
>posts talking about Freyja's fate in the anime
>"I have to bring Mirage into this!"

Really now?

>>147573176
Well look at Kaname, Messer, and Arad. After Messer's death, Kaname has been all about trying to get over it and move on. Don't you think the same thing would apply for Hayate if Freyja was lost? Jokes aside, the next person he could move on to would be Mirage.

>>147572712
Freyja's complaining about not getting her runerune on, and Hayate is like "come, i'll give you a ride" and then Messer is like "oh you brave to be trying that shit in front of me a second time" except it was a different kind of ride

>>147573413
If Freyja was lost, Hayate would go back to being the broody lost asshole that Mirage didn't like.

>>147573413
I think he mean that the post is talking about Freyja's fate not the triangle's resolution desu senpai.

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>>147573472
so cte. Thanks for translating.

>>147573413
>Jokes aside, the next person he could move on to would be Mirage.

So you want Mirage to be Hayate's second choice/consolation prize because "he can't be with Freyja"?

I swear to god some of you shippers are cancer. Kaname is moving on because guess what...She never had romantic feelings nor a special close relationship with Messer so if she ends up with Arad or someone else, it won't be a consolation prize for her.

I am so done with this mentality of "Freyja will die so Hayate will go to Mirage." This is fucking ridiculous.

We've been repeatedly shown that Hayate views Mirage with respect as his superior and as a FRIEND. To wish for Mirage to be Hayate's fucking consolation prize is disrespectful.

>>147573587
*cute

>>147573607
To be honest I think they're going nowhere with AraKana and Kaname look so obsessed with Mikumo.

>>147547399
Mikumo will win, friends

HayaMira shippers fail to realize that the reason Mirage fell for Hayate is because of the person he is thanks to Freyja. It makes 0 sense for Mirage to win.

wew lad, way to go and ship a girl who loves a guy because of his personality that's thanks to the girl he likes.

>>147573665
Yurifag please. Kaname is the team's mom, of course she'd be worried over her baby daughter.

>>147573665
Kaname's not obsessed with Mikumo. That's just the instinct of a mother trying to look out for her little big daughter.

>>147573472
I love them. Hayate and Freyja are such dorks. They'll be the end of me.

Thanks anon.

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>>147573848
>dat Jellyfish

>>147573848
Wasn't she the first hayamira shipper?
Poor Mirage.

>>147574018
Bridge bunnies love gossip so they ship every couple.

>>147573848
Ah, Jellyfish girl, always being a cute.

Can someone give a quick summary of what it says?

>>147573848
>feel relieved at my laugh? (laughing and smiling is the same word)
>did you feel relieved?
>Freyja!
>Uhyaah!
>Oh, Hayate-san, I forgot to give it to you earlier, but there was also a letter from your moth-....
>...er
>furious clicking
>Eh ah no, you see this is uhm
>Hya hyaa..
>This is also part of my job so don't mind me.
>This was then spread throughout the galaxy in less than minutes....

>>147574018
That's kind of a tradition too. The first shippers' ship is doomed to sink. A few Macross civilians shipped Hikaru with Minmay. Ded. Milia shipped both Gamlin and Basara with Mylene. Both ded. Michael and Sheryl shipped Alto with Ranka. Ded. Now we have bridge bunnies and MakiRei shipping Hayate with Mirage. Yeah, it's ded.

>>147574141
Cute. Thanks senpai.

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>>147574258
>Milia shipped both Gamlin and Basara with Mylene. Both ded.
Mylene literally sunk her own ship.

This is the last time we'll be waiting for an episode preview.

>>147574504
Unless they release some teaser or preview of a Delta movie. Depends if it's announced after the last episode or not.

>>147574609
Yeah, but I meant like as of right now, in this time frame. If we do get a movie, we'll have to wait who knows how long, maybe two years or so. I'm talking right now, no waiting for a preview next week.

>>147569048
>>147570271

Go back to your insect rape cave Ranka

>>147574674
Imagine this week's episode ends with a cliffhanger and they tease a movie continuation in the end. But that wont happen since Papa Kawamori is already enjoying his new project funded by Chinese sponsors.

Do you think the star song works on Vajras?

>>147547399
Freya's laugh is cute not creepy

>>147572398
I think Delta will benefit from Freyja dying. They can finally develop other characters for the movie if she dies,

>>147575942
>kill off the MC and the one who the plot mostly revolves around so the supporting characters, who the plot wasn't about get developed

Are you for real?

LEAK THE FUCKING ALBUM

>>147575942
>I think Delta will benefit from best girl dying

Nope. Hayate needs his precious hoina.

When is the new CD coming out again?

>>147576518
Officially, on Monday. We should get the leak during the weekend.

>>147576606
Is it confirmed that we will be getting DYRL for the final episode?

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>>147576606
Officially, on Wednesday (28th).

Also I did a quick research of previous albums leaks by that uploader:
http://www.tokyotosho.info/search.php?username=Mashin

With power of regexp and excel I managed to find that almost all of his leaks are uploaded either 4 days before release (and it's usually Saturday) or 1 day before release (usually Tuesday).

>>147577113
It's on the CD, so yes. I doubt it'll just be because of that 1 minute version of the piano playing.

>>147577208
the piano version is on the OST

>>147577189
Thanks for correcting me. I thought it was on Monday for some reason, dunno why.

So we are either getting the leak on Sunday when the final episode airs or on Tuesday, one day before the release.

>>147577234
Then the vocal version is on the final episode since it's listed as the 12th track on the Walkure Trap album.

Here's my prediction:

Mikumo loses control of herself because of what she did and because she doesn't know who she is anymore. She established the galactic network link, making everyone fall under mindcontrol. Freyja sings DYRL to override the link (burning out her lifespan in the process) in order to reach Mikumo and "make her feelings of happiness reach everyone and there would be no more reason for war" (something Freyja has stated twice in the anime). Mikumo manages to wake up and come to herself, she cures Freyja, and then Walkure as a whole sing Absolute 5.

>>147562101
JUNNA looks like she's suffering.

>>147577456
I think DYRL should be the final song for the battle. I have a feeling we'll hear Giraffe Blues again when they try to reach out to Mikumo.

>>147577456
Need to fit Zettai Reidou Novatick in there too. Muh toberu no ai no kiss de saihate e link is definately gonna happen

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Reminder that Freyja will live.

>>147578022
I won't allow anything else.

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>miragefags

>>147578022
At least Freyja won.

>>147578222
Actually believe in a fake picture of frejya carrying her child. How delusional frejyafags can be.

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I wonder how many people here are both a Remfag and a Miragefag. Must be tough.

>>147578211
Get your "Mirage will win!“ screencaps ready for Sunday. The time for Freyjafags to rejoice is upon us.

>>147578484
I have seen this type of couple in tons of shoujo manga.

>>147578484
What are they saying?

>>147578959
Ching chong nip nong.

>>147578323
Well to be fair, Remfags have a reason to root for her.

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>>147578484
I wish this happened in episode 18.

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>>147555051
>So what songs are you guys hoping to hear during the final battle besides Do You Remember Love?
Hear The Universe by Rasmus Faber & Walküre

ANATA NO SHIRANAI MELODY- ANTEN

Mirage was a mistake

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>>147579994
She's a cute mistake.

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>>147580118
cute as fuck but clearly wasted in Delta

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Remember when this came out and Freyjafags lost their shit and Miragefags were like

>lel Freyjafags being this delusional again, falling for bait. Mirage is going to win.

Ah, the sweet smell of vindication.

>>147580373
>he thinks Freyja is going to win

>>147579994
I think it would have been fun if Mirage was the MC. She'd be like Hikaru because the person she likes only sees her as a friend. Even though she'd be destined to lose the Hayatebowl, they could give her a more laid back personality. I remember concept art that showed her smiling and lauging. She could have at least rivaled Freyja for the title of best girl.

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>>147580855
She is the best girl in my heart

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>>147579994

>>147581392
I wasn't her fault really

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>>147580749
Ah yes. Your memes are all you have left.

>>147581701
Don't you have some chinks to scam?

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>>147580263
>wasted
Nah, she's a nice subversion of the "older girls win" tradition. People may complain that the triangle's always been obvious as fuck but that clearly wasn't the case when Freyja was getting all the typical loser flags.

Add to the expectation of her winning another one of being the ace and genius pilot when people irl and in universe were mocking her for being weak which dealt a great blow to her confidence.

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>>147581882

>>147566481
sasuga unmei-san

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>>147582218
>Freyja was getting all the typical loser flags.

And she dodged them all like a champ. Hoina truly is best girl.

>>147582669
>dodged them all
Delusion is one hell of a drug.

>>147582218
To be honest, Mirage got the worst loser flags when she's a female Jenius. Mylenne even lost the triangle she was dead center. You need a special loser gene to perform that badly.

>>147583069
No knife fight no winner

>Macross Frontier - Itsuwari no Utahime (Central Anime, 720p) [F42806C8]. mkv

someone seed this for the love of christ

>>147583069
That's the Jenius Curse. Wouldn't be surprised if they took advantage of this in a future love triangle and have the Jenius win despite carrying hints of ending up like Milia, Mylene, and Mirage.

>>147570271
No, not even close.

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>>147583009
(You)

>>147583529
Why? Nearly everyone has seen it.

>>147584668
I haven't, and I autistically want the same subtitles as the rest of frontier that I got.

>>147583069
>both guys run off together instead

Isn't it sad, Mylenne?

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Memoirs of a Freyjafag: The Suffering Never Ends

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>>147574258
Come to think of it, even Freyja shipped Hayate with Mirage.

>>147586705
Even frefags aren't dumb enough to think she's really gonna die.

>>147587937

The more I think of it, the more I think its increasingly likely that Freya and Hayate will die together. She needs to sing, he needs to fight, and one of her song's lyrics literally states they will burn out like candles.

>>147588271
Is this your first Macross series by chance?

>>147588468

No, but having space alien magically heal everybody and make everything a'okay like every episode before this one didn't happen would be pretty awful.

Nah. I don't think Freyja will die. She'll sing DYRL which will fix her resonance with Hayate and at the same time, she will connect with Mikumo. Then Mikumo will heal the Hoina and say something like "You deserve to live until you're old and wrinkly"

I don't care if it's magic voodoo, I want it.

To be honest, I don't think Hayate has romantic feelings for Freyja. He loves her, but not that way...

>>147588586
I don't know how it'll happen, I just know that it'll happen. They hinted towards the short lifespan of windfags being some sort of curse or burden they were stuck with, implying it wasn't always that way. Maybe through some bullshittery Freyja will be cured.

>>147589165
Debatable. She changed him to a better person and even if its not romantic love, she has the most influence on him. If he ever falls in love and that person is not Freyja, his girlfriend won't have it easy because the way Hayate acts around Freyja and his relationship with her, can lead to his girlfriend to be insecure.

>>147589165
I think he does love her romantically, or else he wouldn't have blushed for her. It's just that HayaFre romance is depicted as innocent/pure so we don't get these huge declarations of doki doki and sexual tension.

>>147589181

Its the most likely ending. Someone sings on the alien protoculture death star thing, suddenly all Windemere gets cured of space leprosy and maybe even have their hair cancer thingies fall off.

>>147590125
>and maybe even have their hair cancer thingies fall off.

Please no, the runes need to stay.

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>>147589165
These looks he gives her certainly look romantic. I'm just surprised they haven't showed their feelings for each other in any physical manner. No kiss, no hand holding, not even a hug. They could be saving it for last episode, I hope. I hate this purity bullshit.

>>147563528
>Adria
who?

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>>147591063
We could've had so much more but stupid writers had to go and stall HayaFre development bc MUH FEEL GOOD TRIANGLE so they purposely through plot problems at Hayate AND Freyja to keep them apart.

>>147591534
I heard there was supposed to be a dance episode between them. Whether that's true or not, I don't know. But it would have been insanely cute.

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>>147594162

>>147594251
Lokks like shit. Just like Mirage.
Cheapest and low-quality figurine for cheap and low-quality character.

But in all seriousness, do they really believe Mirage is going to sell?

>>147594251
Her face looks weird. Hopefully it'll look better once painted.

So since we got the Freyja one and the Mirage one, I'm guessing we'll be getting the Mikumo one soon.

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>>147594376
They debuted Freyja a few months back, if they didn't expect Mirage would sell there was no reason to make her in the time since.

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>>147594468
MUH DICK

Did we ever get a colored one or are we still waiting? Because I want that Hoina figurine so bad.

>>147594631
No, that's from today like Mirage's

>>147594376
I'm sure it'll sell. Sure it won't have sales like Freyja's or Mikumo's, but it'll sell.

You know what I want and I would drop my money so hard and fast without hesitation? A Freyja figurine in their final battle outfits that appear at the end of OP2.
Hnng.

>>147594376
>>147594675
>seething Freyjafags

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>>147594781
I want a statue of this moment.

>>147595174
The first post I get, but what's "seething" about mentioning that Mirage has lower sales than Freyja and Mikumo? Even animage sales ranks have Mirage lower than Freyja, Mikumo AND Kaname.

>In other news, I’m about halfway done with Chapter 2 (“Fire and Wings”) of the Delta novel, so if I continue to bear down on it, I should be able to have it up by the time the final episode of the show airs. And that’s cool, right?

From a blog entry of the person who is translating the Delta novel.

Cross your fingers so that it happens!

>>147597652
Who knows what more HayaFre unmei lies further into the novel.

>>147598164
Many good things I'm sure. I'm hyped for it.

I don't care what you fags think if Delta. I'm crossing my fingers that we get a second season/movie(s)! I love the characters of Delta, the Valkyries, the songs, even the Windies are pretty cool!

There has to be more than just one more episode. Kawamori and staff have their problems, but they wouldn't make the mistake of trying to solve all these lose ends in one episode. And now with the Megaroad-1 name drop, there has to be something else coming.

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>>147591420
I forgot where I saved his caption (he appears in a still when Arad is explaining the White Knight). He was the former White Knight of Windermere, Keith's predecessor.

>>147592515
It's true: Freyja had issues to learn how to dance and he taught her. But it was axed.

>>147599936
>the songs

I think one of the things that has disappointed me the most about Delta, is that it feels like they forgot to use a bunch of great songs more than once
If the finale doesn't have a medley I'm going to smash something

>>147601096
I remember Freyja stumbling in episode 4's concert. They could have planned a so called dance episode from that. I think Hayate would have taught her using battroid mode.

Macross Frontier's final episode is 26mins, so I hope writers of Delta could properly take the time to wrap whatever loose ends they had left.

>In SDF, the song DYRL is a love song
>In Frontier, the song Aimo is a love song
So, the Star Song in Delta is also a love song?

Preview is up

>>147604772
Bait confirmed

>>147604822
honestly, it would surprise me if there's no preview put up at all this time

>>147605079
>Freyja's first love is Wright
kek

>>147604893
It is the final episode though. Maybe they don't want to spoil anything at all.

>>147605182
I meant to write it wouldn't surprise me. fuck

>Mirage
She will win in the movie, you just wait... ;_;

>>147599936
If they wasted all this time in the second cour because there was going to be a movie I will drop Delta.

>>147599936
This is exactly what people were saying with final episode of Frontier about to end. This is exactly the same
>>147606410
You'll drop a show after the final episode. Good job. A movie will be a retelling anyway.

>>147602921
Frontier was 25 episodes long.

Delta has been dragging shit like there was no tomorrow for a while already.

>>147579377
The song usage in the second cour is awful compared to the first one.

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>>147576040
>the one who the plot mostly revolves around

It doesn't though. She's even less important than the Aerial Windnigger knights. All she's even been doing since Messer died is bringing out a sympathetic side for the Windniggers and complicating Hayates ability to fly.

>>147608791
''Sympathetic''.

>>147549122
You mean the dude calling her a haughty bitch?
No, I am just apathetic to the entire thing. I only watch for Freyja and at this point she barely exists any more. It's all fish flakes and depression. I miss Gori gori, hoina and stupid faces. Where is the cheery red head?

Music medley will not happen in Delta. It will be a whole of episode of talking. This video proves that Frontier > Delta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slqa30DSSKE

>Macross series
>Macross Cannon is only fired once
>Macross spends half the series as a glorified building and the other half as a glorified battery

>>147609112
You have to admit it was a beautiful building.

>>147609137
Yes but it is a building. Ships are supposed to be ships.

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Where is the preview for next episode?

>>147609446
>previews this late in the game
Get ready for your big twist

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Happy Friday. We're almost done. Let's hope our precious Gori Gori Hoina gets her happy end after all the shit she's been put through.

>>147609025
>waah my cheerful waifu is sad so she doesn't exist
Depressed Freyja is stil Freyja, faggot.

>>147610083
>The features of the show I derive enjoyment from have deteriorated
>one of the larger factors, a character, is being written differently
>YA Waifu is still ya WAIFU cunt
Yeah, okay boss. Doesn't mean that the writing for her and many other characters has become less engaging and in some cases irritating.

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Delta was a mistake.

>>147610421
No.

No, I agree with anon that even though Freyja is still Freyja, it's undeniable that they really went down on her to make her miserable these past few episodes and that is a bit of a turnoff. Not because Freyja became less interesting (because I still love her and she remains the only reason why I watch Delta), it sort of starts weighing down on people to watch your favorite character get shot down continously without letting them catch a break.

You gotta admit they've really unleashed all the problems and suffering on Freyja, at least in comparison to the other characters.

First that she dies at 30
Then she's considered a traitor
Gets doubted by her fans
Walkure/Mikumo doubts her abilities
The father of the guy she likes nuked her planet
She realizes the implications of her short lifespan against Hayate
Her song almost kills Hayate in episode 19
Then she gets told her songs are weapons
When she decides to sing again, Hayate begins to lose his shit
When she gets caught in Winderemere, they automatically want to execute her
And now she's dying much earlier than expected

Overkill

>>147610465
That's why it all comes down to the final episode. She dies, Delta goes down with her.

>>147610465
This is getting annoying.
Freyja is the MC, did you really expect her journey to be easy? Ranka and Sheryl in Frontier also had to face lots of hardships, this is nothing new.

>>147610583
Please. Freyja dying would be the payoff for this train wreck.

>>147610586
Oh I know. I simply said I UNDERTSTOOD why it weighs down on people that their favorite character gets angsty. Doesn't mean I don't love or appreciate Freyja. It's just a matter of being protective of a character you love and not being overjoyed that they get sad repeatedly.

I'm hopeful that Freyja will get her happy end.

>>147610711
Not for me. After all she has been through, I would like her to live and be happy.

>>147610711
>Freyja dying would be the payoff for this train wreck

Doubt it. A lot of people are only still watching for Freyja. If she gets killed, Delta goes down the gutter.

Canceled event tickets, canceled BD pre-orders, etc.

>>147610586
Yeah but Sheryl had sweet moments with Alto that remedied her suffering. Here, Hayate is perfectably capable of cheering her up but the writers insist they shouldn't have any intimate moments whatsoever in favor of keeping this pathetic triangle alive. Hell, I really liked the last episode we got, but he should have discovered her flakes and it should have encouraged him to confess. But like others have said, they're probably saving it all for the last episode. That better be the case.

>>147610711
She's already ruined. The two best outcomes would be them fixing her or her dying. It would be a MASSIVE twist given how hard they are shilling the group outside of the show. I would respect it just because they had the balls to dare.

>>147610711

You can smell a /m/tard miles away. They are always the edgiest mother fucker dedicating their whole life praying for something to be a train wreck.

>>147601096
>>147592515
Not just dance episode, Hayate not even dance anymore, maybe the writers even forget about this setting.

>>147610421

fuck you kawamori.

>feels good triangle
End up a triangle that wasting everything, main plot, characters, subplot etc.
It would be a lot better if Hayate and Freyja end up as lovers in episode 16, and Mirage go to do something else, or let her with Mikumo to also push the Mikumo development, or just Mikumo if the writers really hate Mirage.

Also the main plot, i think the main part wasting the main plot is the screentime with Winderemeres, no i'm not saying they need to die, i just want the scenes with them done better so can make the main plot better overall.

Anyway, can i expect a movie with better plot for Macross Delta comes in 2 or 3 years later?

What did Delta do right?

>>147611679
At least they done Freyja pretty nice, even the last few episode also went downhill about her.

>>147611679
Drakken and Kairos. And Elysion, though it was used once.

>>147611679
Music, mech designs, the few fights we've been given, Messer vs Keith rivalry, the Keith/Heinz/Roid triangle, Kaname, Mikumo, Hayate and Freyja.

>>147611679
Ragna, Windermere, Freyja, Hayate, Mikumo, Kaname, Roid, the music, the OTP
Now fuck off.

>>147611750
>>147611776
>Hayate
>Mikumo
>Roid
>the fights after 1st cour
>done right

No.

>>147611679
I really like the cast, the themes, the worldbuilding and the music. To be honest my main issue is that the pace could have been better and since this is a mecha the second half should have had more action but overall so far I think it's a good series.

>>147611840
Good argument.

>>147611880
Am I the only one who feels that Frontier was pretty much the same in its second half? It's a deliberate feel bad half, with drama replacing fun, and characters dying (as in killed) or dying (as being killed slowly by disease), characters being exploited to do bad things by bad guys in the back, questioning what's right etc. Granted, frontier had probably a bit more action in its second half, but it wasn't feel good action in the same way either, because you could tell quite early on that something was up with the Vajra killing

People just tend to pretend not remember this part of frontier, and then when Delta is doing the same thing, Delta is bad for doing it, because people are forgetting that Frontier did it.

>>147612106
He's right anyway.

>>147612228
>>147612106

>>147612172
There are two things I wanted for the final episode,
>Non-stop music medley like Frontier, Obviously.
>MC's salute to the main female protag (Not necessarily needed)
>Epic Macross Class Action.

>>147612172
No, I feel the same. Honestly, Delta's second half is not that different from Frontier's apart from having less action. But overall in tone it's pretty similar, with character drama taking the spot. Maybe the 'problem' is that in Frontier people were very invested in Sheryl and all the drama surrounding her condition and her romance with Alto, while in Delta HayaFre's romance is way more subtle and the main drama comes from the Windies this time (Cassim dying, Keith-Heinz-Roid triangle, Bogue and the crater). Which isn't that different with what happened in Frontier with Alto hating the Vajra and Ranka trying to reason with him, but hey Alto is a protagonist and viewers will always sympathize easier with the protag than with the antagonists.

>>147612325
The problem is giving a shit about windniggers because they aren't sympathetic.

>>147612325
The pacing is the main problem of the show. Does Satelight have budget constraint while producing Delta? Because the second cour consists of dialogues, dialogues and dialogues which makes me think that they are trying to conserve money for a selected few episodes which shows inconsistency in the quality of the episodes in the second cour.

>>147612325
Same anon. What I mean is that overall the conflicts in Delta are more or less the same as in Frontier, but everything is less melodramatic and more understated. Freyja is shocked by the white marks, but she already knew since she was born that her race lives for very little so while she doesn't want to worry anyone she isn't as shocked as Sheryl. Basically, Freyja has been well aware of her mortality for a long time just like the rest of her race. She isn't having an existential crisis over this even if the thought of living less than the rest makes her sad. Her romance with Hayate is also less dramatic, more comfy, etc. Maybe if this had happened earlier there would have been more drama, but I don't know.

As for the issue of Alto and his hate for the Vajra compared to the Windies and their hate for NUNS and desire for justice/revenge, it's more or less the same, except I see Windies as what Alto would have become if Frontier hadn't had a happy end and they hadn't discovered who was behind everything. But like I said, viewers will always find it easier to sympathize with a protagonist than with an antagonist, and I say this because I remember 8 years ago almost everyone thought Alto was right when that wasn't the case.

>>147612282
>Non-stop music medley
I want medley to be Giritick Beginner into Neo Stream into Silent Hacker into Halation the War ~without Freyja (because she will be already dead by that time)~

I guess they really don't plan on releasing previews for the final episode.

Be assured we're not getting a medley. They did that in Frontier, we will get several songs though for sure

Here's how I want HayaFre to end.

>Hayate walks up to Freyja after the war ends and he says "Now that it's over, I'm going to visit my mom. Will you come with me?"
>And Freyja's like "Sure, I'd love to. But is it really OK for me to impose on your family time?"
>Then Hayate blushes and turns to look seriously at Freyja "Yes, I want her to meet you, the girl I love and want to marry some day."
>some funny Freyja reaction phrases
>Hayate leans in for a kiss
>Kiss happens and they both laugh

I'm allowed to dream.

>>147613305
I don't think a proposal is out of the question. She did run away to avoid getting married, so it'd be a nice turnabout with them deciding to get married.

>>147613056

>we're not getting a medley

but thats literally the point of the Walkure idol group

>>147613360
Noooo. I want lifespan fix end, which also means that I want Freyja to have a normal life, you know, as in living as a teen girl while she's a teen girl.

>>147613461
the album not having a medley seals the deal. Walkure has their own cd's so its not gonna be on the ost either. Delta's finale isn't gearing up to be a long battle montage either. Stop expecting one. There's gonna be battle's, songs and action, but its not gonna be rinse repeat of Frontier 25. Heck the frontier movies didn't do medley's either.

>>147613558
Why can't she have a teen life just because they're engaged?

>>147613584
But by the looks of it, the final episode of Delta wont be as epic as Frontier's.

>>147613614
I want them to take things a bit slower. Windies life fast because they die young, so I want Freyja to still enjoy life at its fullest but also at a slower pace. Like when you eat slowly to savour everything better.

>>147613659
But character-wise it could be more touching.
>HayaFre declaration of love
>Mirage breaking free at last
>Mikumo regaining her humanity
>Knights turning their wings white again
>Heinz following his own path
I hope all of that happens.

>>147613659
It would be a music battle Mikumo vs Freyja.

>>147613694
They don't have to get engaged/married right away. They could just discuss that they WANT to get married one day, an implication of what will happen in the future.

It'd give us HayaFre fans something sweet and promising for their future.

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Who is the winner in Roid/Heinz/Keith triangle? Heika seems to like roid more now.

>>147613659
They aren't even in the process of the last battle yet. How many minutes do you think will be wasted before the Elysion gets there?

>>147613584
>Heck the frontier movies didn't do medley's either.
Then what is Nyan Nyan Final Attack Frontier GreatestHits?

Final song will be Hear the Universe

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so precious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef2veqS0L3w

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How come nobody in this show claimed this cutie to himself?

>>147571672
I agree. I dont like open endings anyway, but that would kill the show fot me. So far Ive enjoyed delta and despite rooting for Mirage Im enjoying HayaFrey so I dont mind the way the series is going. BUT if they have an oen ending thay resolves nothing at al it would completely kill it fot me

>>147573607
Well dont forget you are arguing against people who have never ever experienced a real relationship and whoes only interaction with people goes through /a/

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Tfw Itano circus in the past is well animated compared to now.

>>147591063
Purity is the biggest cancer