I'm pretty sure this is another character dreaming how people clean their instruments, so it makes sense they wouldn't know how to properly clean a euph.
or maybe it was kumiko imagining it but I'm not 100% sure
the joke is that Hazuki is the one imagining all of this and she doesnt know how to clean instruments because she's a beginner
and here is them actually cleaning a tuba properly
kumiko is great
Sensei going drinking after work with female colleague and Reina stalking them episode when?
Yeah, and woodwinds are the best actual musicians because they're always playing the melody and don't get stuck on holding-notes-for-four-bars duty. Sure, there's always a good violinist or two, but they're stuck in the land of jackoffs who can't even stay in tune much less think about giving a good performance.
Please. I went to a professional-ass symphony the other night. The dirty percussionists and brass players were so braindead they forgot that they're supposed to let people hear the fucking soloists. It was shameful.
Don't be silly. Piano is easily one of the most technical instruments to learn at a high level.
Try playing Chopin's Ballade 1 and tell me it takes zero skill to play that piece.
>displaying your ignorancy and even going as far as a picking a label for yourslef
Piano was NEVER considered string instrument. If it has to be attributed to some family, its percussion, but not really. Keyboard is a semarate family alltogether.
A piano is a string instrument. It makes sound via the vibration of strings.
A hammond organ and a piano both have keyboards. Only one is a string instrument.
If you don't believe me then go google it and return with a source that says piano is not a string instrument.
new instrument groupings here
piano, organ, midi controller, harpsichord (and by extension, guitar since it is also plucked and it got left out of the bow group)
violin, cello etc
mouth blow instruments:
flute, tuba, sax, trumpet
hit with stick/percussion:
piano again, bass drum, xylophone (bongo gets its own group)
Cute baka is a thing OP.
they're borh string
just stop dude it's embarrassing
Oh shit, you have to press a whole six buttons at once. Nothing else ever has to do that. Years spent developing muscles in your mouth for the perfect embouchure, refining breathing techniques, learning alternate fingerings, religiously staying in-tune, and practicing transitions is truly dwarfed by that accomplishment.
Callous fingers, disgusting long nails, have to smear some shit on your bow then place it near your face.
Have to stand up and/or move your entire body dancing like a monkey around your instrument, and that's not even mentioning dumb nigger shit like hand percussion and those african drums. Only pitched percussion is somewhat respectable.
>brass and woodwinds
Disgusting spit everywhere, have to literally lick your instrument, get stretched cheeks and numb lips.
Composed and gracious, a truly complex instrument that actually required some engineering and insight to make unlike your retarded pipe with some holes. It doesn't demean you or place any demands on your body aside from having somewhat functional hands - something most of us would be proud to have anyway.
The only instrument to come close to the piano is organ, but it's pretty niche and a bit impractical - it's basically a building.
Trips are truth. I bought the Casio CTK 3200 (or rather, it was a Christmas present iirc) because it has tangents in the normal piano size, and is pressure sensitive. It's also rather cheap.
No. It really takes years. Especially for the embouchure and breathing techniques.
I actually had an entire band from a Japanese music prep school come visit mine on some sort of exchange program and we did some concerts together. Their curriculum had the students practicing for some serious time each day, but most of them had only been playing for a few years. My area's music program starts in late elementary school, so even the worst flunky had been playing twice as long as the Japanese students and pretty much every one of our band members had better tone than theirs because they had all that extra time to develop the muscles and breathing.
That said, most of the Japanese band would wreck most of our band as far as staying on time and hitting notes, so their practice was paying off. They couldn't swing for shit though, so their American jazz tribute was choppy and awkward as fuck.
Most woodwinds do fast note runs too. I'm not sure what this is supposed to prove.
>but you also have to hold simple chords with your left hand so it's way harder
Christ, you're pathetic.
As an ex-Euphonium player yeah lower brass are usually the most chill. Tromboneists are usually total bros. Although our Tuba players were a couple of dykes. Percussion were straight up retards, Trumpet were lazy fucktards except for the one great player who was awesome. And woodwind aren't worth talking about. Saxophones were usually pretty cool people though.
>mom forced me to choose an instrument
>does me no good since i made no friends to play with ad orchestra sucked
Amazing how you get all these pieces with fast notes when all you need to do to hit them perfectly is press a button. It's like that's the only way you can display skill on piano. Meanwhile, you can tell the difference between a college-level string or wind musician and a professional with one note, because that's how much technique and experience goes into producing that one note. So instead they focus on creating music instead of doing a math exercise. That music frequently has fast note runs as well, and each time one of those notes are played- just about as fast as a pianist- they use all the extra skill they need to produce them each time.
Oh, and sometimes wind instruments do this thing called circular breathing where they can play continuously even while taking a breath.
>not starting your own jazz orchestra
Who cares, post Kumikos
Don't feel so bad, I had either music or art in middle school and our art teacher was a bitch and I draw worse than I play an instrument and I suck mountains of cock at playing instrument. I was with the Trombones and there were only three of us but they were good guys, Our two drummers used to be with us before switching, trumpets were a bunch of arrogant little fucks with the occasional goofball and woodwind was just a bunch of qts but many of them were bitches.
desu the best memory of middle school band I have was vomiting in the middle of class. That must have been ten years ago. Jesus christ
Our's had one of those as well. Although h was secretly super high strung and has some pretty deep anger issues. Also He has problems holding onto a gf. Still a cool dude though.
In my school band clarinet players were the plebest of the pleb tier because it was always the lazy slackers with zero drive who decided to pick the braindead simple woodwind instrument and there was like 15 of them.
My favorite memory is when all 15 of them botched a section solo during a LIVE concert by missing their cue and playing absolutely nothing for 16 measures while the backing percussion soldiered on and with the teacher giving them a death stare. Fortunately the rest of the band wasn't composed of blithering retards so everyone joined in when they were supposed to and the song finished without further incident.
Clarinet players: Never once.
This is what will happen to her in a couple years
Why the fuck did she leave the valves and mouthpiece on?
In anycase as someone who has played trombone for 6 years, I have never bathed my instrument. All I did was just snaked it and oiled it and it was just fine. I got bored as shit playing the damn thing so I stopped
>stretched cheeks and numb lips
>I've never played a wind instrument before
If you knew anything about them you would know that proper technique prevents both of those issues.
Also, unless you are some kind of sperg, emptying your valves should be a fairly easy and clean process.
Also you can just get an electric organ and have the superior system. Footpedals really open up a lot of opportunities for the player.
I love more mature shots of Kumiko. Though I also love Kumiko in general.
It's also because she's taller than the others and often quite cold and distant that make her appear mature and kind of cool.
This. Singers are huge assholes with egos the size of the moon. The higher you go, the worse they get. Sopranos are a pain in the ass to deal with.
>can you play faster
>it's too fast play slower
>the woodwinds are too loud
>the strings are too loud
>can the orchestra just stop playing I can just carry the concert by myself
Lets be real everyone.
Beatboxing is the future
Reminds me of my band days in high school. Cornet player and won the John Philip Sousa award. Got pretty good, but I totally dropped off once I got to college and realized that
a) majoring in music was a death sentence
b) majoring in music was signing away 12 hours of your life every day
I tried to go into the band after two years of not playing, but was no longer good enough. ;-;
Still play the piano (my first instrument), but that's atrophied as well (I like writing music more than playing).
blog post aside, here are my band rankings:
Top tier bros. Carry the band with loudness and vigor. Have to do all the heavy lifting.
Decent fellows but it's true that this is usually for the folks who don't know how to do anything but hit a block of wood with a mallet. The good percussion players are a gift from God though.
The instruments that no one cares about if you are not playing jazz. This attracted most of the mediocre players.
Seems to attract the most women. You will never hear them. I am not even sure if they hear themselves when they play.
>not wanting your fingers to go puni puni
>what >>147485740 said
>it's called rosin and it's pretty cool
Stings are great, Piano is perfect and all the other instruments are swell too. If you love music I don't see why you'd put any instrument down.
>tfw you remember when you sat in front of the percussion section for one of Bartok's symphonies
Literally this. Brass was a mistake.
>mfw bandfags were basically orchestra rejects and yet they act as if they make actual music
Now you jinxed it.
Seeing music nerds blog again was kinda nostalgic, though. Hopefully it will dominate these threads longer than it did in season one.
This so much.
>90% of the bandfags didn't even know how to read music at my school
>he thinks playing the piano is just pressing buttons
Don't even bother arguing if you've literally never tried to play the piano.
You can press buttons as fast as you want, it'll still sound shit if that's all you're doing.
You also need to think about how hard or soft you play every note, how long you have it held in, when to use the pedal and how long to keep it held and how far to push it down.
All without thinking about it because the song is moving too quickly while you try to read the notes and move both of your hands in a different rhythm with the left hand playing slightly louder than the right one, but only sometimes.
I can't speak for any other instrument since I've never played any other, but don't try to say piano is as simple as pressing buttons fast.
you learn something everyday
idk how high school band shit works since I went to a legit arts school everyone was a proto hipsters listening to alt/indie rock while getting completely rekt every weekend drinking/getting high
this bread is bretty neat
When I had to make an arrangement of "God Rest Ye Merry Gentleman for my high-school band's Christmas Concert, I handed the sheet notation I drew up to one of the sax players, who looked at me with a dull look in his eyes and said he couldn't read music.
I had to write out the note letters with notation of how long to hold each one above it on a sheet of looseleaf.
I could not imagine someone being in band, presumably for at least a semester, if not a year (he was sophomore iirc) without figuring that shit out. I don't know how my band director put up with it.
The consequence of going to a semi-shitty high-school in a ghetto.
Total bros. Helpful, skillful, friendly, smart. Control freak but knows a lot more about music than any other player. There's a reason why concertmasters are usually violinists.
Very polite and cooperative to the violins. Can probably own a cellist as a maid if you're a violinist. Usually knows how to play other instruments as well.
Either incompetent slackers or extremely autistic. Their instruments sound like shit and the pkayers cannot take bantz due to insecurity.
Who? Completely dispensable and useless.
Guys are shy and timid. Will be embarrassed if you tell them that flutes are girly. Can probably convince them to crossdress.
Basically winds who think they're violinists and pretend to be just as cool.
Amicable and approachable. They have accepted that their instrument sounds goofy and have given up on taking themselves too seriously.
Superiority complex. Take themselves extremely seriously.
This is objective fact and not up for debate.
Acts all polite but you know they're talking behind your back if you're a violinist. The guys are totally laid back and bro as fuck but if the principle is a girl, she'll get into cat fights with the concertmaster.
Literally never comes in on time.
Drama queens and snotty as fuck.
Jesus fuck can you actually play the A in tune this time? You had one job.
Always gets hyped when playing Peter and the Wolf.
Does pic related bother you OP?
Nice guy but can't play in tune for shit.
Nice guy but sounds like shit anywhere that's not a concert hall.
Lazy asshats because they never get to play anything complex.
Stuck up fags who boasts about how high they can play.
>cornet and flugel
Nobody remembers they exist.
>Nobody remembers they exist.
>What is the difference between a viola and a trampoline?
>You take your shoes off to jump on a trampoline.
>What is the difference between a radio and a viola?
>A radio plays music.
>What's the difference between a dead skunk on the road and a crushed viola on the road?
>There are skid marks before the skunk.
>How do you stop a violist from drowning?
>Take your foot off his head.
>mfw the violafag starts a fit
Smug only to useless violafags like you.
>literally carries the melody line and harmony in every single major piece of music since the 15th century
How assblasted can you get?
>ahurr adurr [instrument I chose to dedicate my time while dismissing all other ones] is superior because it's harder to play
Guess a fuckign hammer is a better instrument overall than a screwdriver and any carpenter or builder who decides to ever use a screwdriver is a fucking idiot
JNobody gives a shit how hard of a time you're having playing the thing. Your resulting work is what matters, and every instrument discussed here is capable of producing unique results.
>literally carries the melody
>can't even properly play harmony
You're an eejit. A straight up fucking eejit. Continue bitching about which instrument among a plethora of different ones designed for different purposes and sounds is "superior" while other people around the world who are actually talented go on to make art and find success with the entire assortment of them. I'm sure you'll convince SOME random anon how cool you are for your choice of tool to stagnate with.
>acts like a faggot
>deflects by being a pedantic faggot
From what I'm getting people are taking their personal experiences from school and judging the people who play and not the instrument. Really dumb to be honest but I guess it's a nice change of pace from fighting about yuri.
so whats the deal with oboe players?
I heard they're all supposed to be psycho or depressed and apparently Mizore is a yandere. Something about reeds? She makes her own apparently.
there are more cute Kumiko even in this thread desu
As a middle school choirfag, I take offense at that. We had to do SATB shit and I was already in the lower registers and we all knew that the pieces we sang relied on each of us not fucking our particular section up. Not to mention the fact that if our instruments got fucked up we couldn't fucking communicate properly.
Also the regulations on what we have to eat and drink before the singing.
>No excessively high salt foods
Stop shitting on the vocalists that often risk their social functionality during longer pieces.
That's not much different from the orchestra. I've played with choirs in high school and university, as well as professional opera singers, and they're all very high maintainence.
Again, the reason is due to the high risk of vocal strain if one thing goes wrong. For the players with instruments outside of the body, replacement parts and repairing services are easier to find. For those who use their very body as an instrument, and especially the part most associated with communication, that is a high cost to replace or repair.
It had nothing to do with vocal strain and more to do with the fact that most of them has a horrible sense of rhythm and would always end up rushing, and then would turn around and blame the orchestra for their own faults.
Alright so I tried to re-pick-up this show again from episode 3 and I watched it until some slut called the teacher hot. That's when I could tell this wasn't the yurishit I was hoping for.
Adding a bishounen teacher like that really makes it clear how female-run Kyoanus is. They really are a shit studio.
One day Timmy came home from school very excited.”Mommy, Mommy, Guess what? Today in English I got all the way to the end of the alphabet, and everyone else got messed up around ‘P’!”
His mother said, “Very good, dear. That’s because you’re a violist.”
The next day, Timmy was even more excited. “Mommy, Mommy, guess what! Today in math I counted all the way to ten, but everyone else got messed up around seven!”
“Very good, dear,” his mother replied. “That’s because you’re a violist.”
On the third day, Timmy was beside himself. “Mommy, Mommy, today we measured ourselves and I’m the tallest one in my class! Is that because I’m a violist?””No dear,” she said. “That’s because you’re 26 years old.”
Harpsichord is more of a strig instrument as the strings are actually picked rather than struck like a classical piano. Both are, however, percussion instruments as well as string, those who say otherwise mustn't have had an education.
>in 16th century
>have the violon
>make a small violon and call it a violoncello
>make an even smaller violon and call it a violin
>make a bigger small violon and call it a viola
You can't make this shit up bros
>What is the definition of perfect pitch? Throwing a viola into a dumpster without hitting the rim
>play cornet when i was 9-11
>barely ever practiced
>would skip on lessons (got really fucking awkward when my dad got a letter and asked me why i wasn't going to lessons)
>there's a school orchestra and i keep wondering why i haven't been invited to join yet (i was shit)
>i basically shoehorn my way in by turning up one lunch time
>we get the music to learn
>i go off and practice it like two times and don't bother
>go back to the orchestra the next week
>everyone begins playing
>i play the first 1 or 2 lines before i completely fuck up
>i put down my cornet and just sit there while everyone plays, only other cornet player there is staring at me
>never go to orchestra again
>regret not practicing and taking it seriously ever since
I feel like I could probably get back into it now that I'm in my 20s.
Whats the best sub group for this show?
I want to catch up before next season
>have to pick some music thing in middle school
>they put me in the clarinet class
>they say putting me in the right class would change up my schedule
>"o-okay, that's fine" my way out of there like an autist
>spent the whole year doing homework sitting in the back during that class
>positive that all the girls in that class, like 99% of the class was girls, laughed at me behind my back
>havent played euphonium since high school
>start feeling muscial
>think about buying my own seeing as how I spent 7 years of my life playing it
>remember that just a halfway decent yamaha is already over 5 grand
>a 90s besson requires you to personally perform about a dozen assassinations for the mossad
>go back to watching instructional youtube videos about how to sing
I don't know how incredibly expensive it is to actually own an instrument (or at least these brass ones), but in the novel its so uncommon that all the girls that actually own their own instrument are pointed out (Asuka, Nozomi, Mizore, Reina etc)
Buy used instruments, they're at least half priced. If you go to flea markets, especially if it's a school flea market, you might make a coup if you're able to do some maintenance.
At my school, which was one of the fairly affluent upper-middle class high schools, trumpet players and trombonists almost all had their own instruments, (except for bass trombone) one, maybe two euphonium players did, and none of the tuba players owned their own instruments. I'd say Hibike was a pretty decent portrayal in that regard.
her dad mails Asuka his euphonium when Asuka is in elementary school her parents got divorced when she was two and her mom has sole custody
>Buy used instruments
>brah check out this sick Stradivarius i bought used, only $2.5 million
That rule doesn't apply so much to decent instruments, especially euphoniums since the decent manufacturers (i.e. the English ones) shipped their assembly lines to ten-cents-a-day land over 20 years ago. Best thing you could hope to find is some banged-up beginner model, even just finding one with a compensation valve would be a literal miracle.
My parents bought me my cornet when I joined my elementary-school band at age 9. I think it cost $400.00 or thereabouts. Because our school did not have spare instruments I didn't really know rented or school instruments were a thing until high-school.
Of course that's nothing compared to the $1,800 piano I got for my 15th birthday (half off!).
>mfw I made the final payment on that thing a few years ago
We used to buy a lot of used instruments in my band. But I played drums, so I don't know much about it.
It was usually the band that bought the instruments with money from missions and aid from the state, but some had their own instruments as well.
I guess its personal, I mean who wants to use a woodwind that's been tongued by the entire band
They even have a special name in Japanese, they had the prefix (well not really a prefix but) "my" in front of it
>We used to buy a lot of used instruments in my band
Yeah my band was pretty different in that regard. We had a semi and a trailer, a smaller trailer for percussion, and bought weird eclectic shit like e-flat tubas and cornets for soloists almost yearly.
>Carolina Crown marches fucking MEDEA
>still manages to shit the bed
>MEME COATS ON TOP
fucking kill me
No joke Hitler, i thought they had reached maximum pop-music level with Creep, but damn.
what are you hoping to see in season 2, mates?
>inb4 yuri vs het shit
>literally blowing into a metal tube
And yet you still can't give good head. How pathetic.
who /trombone/ here?
I've been playing for 16 years, since middle school.
>dorkestra literally can NOT stop bragging about the blowjobs he gives
wew, really breaking those sterotypes there
for all the ribbonhaters to get btfo when she saves the day
>bandfag jelly that no one even wants his bjs
band discussion ruins threads
better than yuri shitposters tbqh
>mfw going to have a monopoly on rare Ribbon pictures
>this shit isn't as bad as other shit so i'll allow it
The yurifags vs vanillfags actually discusses the characters' relationships, albeit delusionally, but it's still about the show. Band discussion is just people blogging about their experiences in band.
awesome. I wish Youtube was a thing when i started learning all those years ago.
there are some really good trombone channels out there.
>orkdork has nothing to offer but his yaoi holes
>mad that I play better music and suck a meaner dick than the brasscuck
>complaining about gayness on /a/
>still this mad that he's both musically and sexually retarded
>Proud of his illnesses
maybe when you die, god will take pity on you and reincarnate you as a brass player.
jk you're going to musician hell
>calls others having illnesses
>is a brassfag
>literally no choral works with brass-only ostinado
>thinks God gives a shit about his meme instruments
Cry more, virgin boy.
>all you need to do is hit all the notes
are you stupid? you realize that compositions for a piano break up in different dynamics right? you don't just press a button.
>taking bait this effortlessly
if piano is so hard to play, why do 3 year old chinks play it so well?
Because the orchestra fag dropped by to ruin music once again
The best thing that ever happened to orchestra was the addition of a brass section
MAKE MUSIC GREAT AGAIN
>willfully ignorant of music history
Sasuga dumb brassfag
>The best thing that ever happened to orchestra was the addition of a brass section
>haha let me just ignore centuries of musical tradition and the fact that the inclusion of a brass section coincided with the rise of romanticuck music
Nice shitty opinions there, hothead.
wew lad, sounds like you need some Wagner up in your commiejew life
>haha he's a Nazi so he must make good music right??
>doesn't even know that Richard Strauss is a bigger Nazi than Wagner ever was
>doesn't even know that Beethoven was the best romanticism had to offer and it had been going down hill from there
Fuck off back to /pol/ dumb kid.
dear tuba players
why would you pick an instrument that is like 30 pounds?
>doesnt even know that the euphonium's ancestor dates back to mozart
>doesnt even acknowledge that Romanticism was the epitome and most salient representation of the soul of the west
>cant even follow historical trends and realize that orchestras were too caught up in their gay orgies while bands created art for the common people to finally experience and liberate them from the shackles of the gay-orchestra hegemony
There's a reason why, when people name their favorite musicians, they name bands and not orchestras. Go circle-jerk with your faggot, blowjob giving, orchestra-marxists somewhere else. You're not wanted here or anywhere but each other buttholes.
what does that say about female tuba players?
>projecting this hard
>implying brass having slight presence in classical and baroque periods is somehow a good thing, or that even anyone cares
>implying everyone doesn't just immediately dismiss anything a brassfag advocates
>implying the elitism surrounding classical music was not a result of the increase of nobility's influence during late classical and early romantic periods
>implying classical music isn't accessible to the general public all the way from Monteverdi to Bach, while still retaining much more sophistication than anything bancucks have ever produced
>implying you're not just another retarded brassfag pulling shit after shit out of your ass, like you love to do every night after a good hard dicking from your band director
Fuck off, crossboarding scum.
>being this desperate to cling to relevance in the modern erathat has long since passed you by
>blaming your pompous, snobbery on the only people in the entire world who gave a shit about you
>being this jealous of your own imagination of other men getting fucked up the ass
>holding pretensions of patricianhood while acknowledging that his knowledge of modern culture is PURPOSEFULLY myopic, thus revealing himself to be a regular dilettante
Why dont you fuck off until kyoani runs out of worthwhile content and begrudgingly makes a filler orchestra anime? Might even be yaoi like you want.
>orchqueer once again has to resort to fantasy to find happiness
its not too late, you can still find help. Accept, Winds, the one true god of concert instruments into your heathen heart.
>upset that a reverend father of the divine winds calls him on his Orchestra den-of-vipers lies
please i wish to save your soul, come play the Patterson Chorale (hallowed be they name) with me.
>Literally said I was in the bass section
This is why no one likes violinists.
Well I think you're all insufferable. I'm glad I play piano so I don't have to interact with any of you.
>can't play double stops
>can't play shalsh chords
>can't play in scordatura
>weak as fuck
Windcucks mad af they can't do fansy shit.
Fuck off kyeboardfag no one likes you, not even other keyboard fags.
>only one keyboard ever in any ensemble
Lmao fucking loner bitch.
>what are solo violin works
Are you fucking stupid? Violin can literally do anything piano can and more.
End yourself, human trash.
I'm taking this thread back one rare Kumiko at a time
I'm glad I don't play any instruments because apparently everyone who does is insufferable
I sound perfect by myself. I don't need any other instrument to sound complete. Call me when you need an accompaniment, baby.
>doesnt play music
>enters a musicians' society
>complains about their culture
you have to go bach
I realize that it doesn't matter if it's anime or music, everything attracts autism because everyone is autistic. I'm just bantering with people now.
Or if you want we can talk about yuri now.
You think I bothered to learn you stringfags code-words for fiddling with each others' hardwood?
have you tried acclimating to our ways?
>he doesn't even know what double stops are
>being exposed as retarded and become so embarrassed that he has to lash out at others
Here we see a typical well-adjusted windfag individual, ladies and gentlemen.
>tfw poorfag and can only afford common Kumikos
Looks like I'll have to settle for the scraps again this season
It's anything but sad to find limp-wristed music boring.
There's 131 people here. Imagine if we had to work together on a performance.
I-it's not like I wanna play in an orchestra with you losers.
>violin masterrace reporting in
>literally the foundation of polyphony and harmony
>someone on this Earth is actually this mouthbreathingly stupid
And I suppose you want me to explain what those terms mean now too right? Holy shit just fucking neck yourself, literal subhuman IQ.
>65 various string musicians who have not re-strung or tuned their instruments in 10 years
>44 assorted brass musicians, half missing instruments, the other half their mouthpieces
>12 piano "soloists"
>9 conductors who have differing opinions about the length of each note and a second
>1 percussionists with a metronome plugged into his noise-cancelling headphones who still manages to rush