Also shame on you touchme-sama, for brining shame to insectoid kind. Good thing best is a spider right?
I don't know what you're talking about, Touch Me is great.
Serious question; why do humiefags exist? Why are they so delusional?
>Fluder is lvl 70
>CD is lvl 90+
>Every BS member is fully equipped with Divine tier equipment
>PDL is lvl 120
>muh 30 lvl 100 golems
>Martial arts can counter Ygg magic/skills
>non-human races are all lvl 70+
>Anyone can kill Demi and Aura because reasons
>Renner is a god-level omniscient intellect that far surpasses Demi and Albedo and can see through Ainz's act in 2 seconds
>Think every other country in the world is 5000x stronger than the Kingdom, Empire, and Theocracy
>humans can easily tank 8th tier spells
>levels don't mean anything
Humiefags are cancer.
Is humie from /tg/? Would explain some of this powerleveling shit.
Go ahead. Ive seen atleast ~5 threads killed past week by generalFags. Atleast I put something there.
>Renner is a god-level omniscient intellect that far surpasses Demi and Albedo and can see through Ainz's act in 2 seconds
She probably could, considering the only reason NPCs can't is because they were all conditioned to think "sasuga Ainz-sama" and Ainz rolling natural 20's all around.
Just, Ainzach and all haven't, though they are not on Renners level.
I doubt she'll have much interaction with Ainz. probably just a initial meeting then handed off to Albedo or Demi for handling.
>says the nazarick fag
Demiurge takes the place of shalltear and encounters the BS
>demiurge sizes them up and realizes they are trouble
>KC judges faster sine he's a warrior and instantly orders for the dress wci
>kaire charges up
>demiurge is too late he needs to kill them fast, he casts his controls skills and spells but to no avail the BS is prepared for those
>he casts his hellfire spells but KC blocks it and the others sacrifice themselves to protect Kaire
>he gets desperate, transforms and flies into the sky to run away while summoning his demons but it's too late
>demiurge is mind controlled
That loser Renner is going to see through Ainz's Nat20 act? Demi saw through her act in 2 seconds, that incompetent bitch who couldn't even take over the Kingdom on her own is going to see through the keikaku master? No.
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>KC judges faster since he's a warrior
No. Time stop.
>he casts his hellfire spells but KC blocks it
No. 10th tier AOE Hellfire one-shots BS.
>flies into the sky to run away
Ever heard of teleportation, humiefag?
What gets me is that SPLAT was considered a weak super tier spell. Fallen down seems to be a localised nuke, Ainz summoned those angels.
I can't wait to see some of his more powerful Super tier spells.
Yes, I forgot that there are retards that actually think this. Humiefags will say:
>BS > Pleiades because muh equipment
>PDL > Shalltear. muh equipment doesn't matter in this case because reasons
Humiefags should be purged.
Yeah, thats what I mean, 10th tier or 9th Super tier has long cast times, and Ulbert avoided using cash items for the most part, so In a boss fight it makes more sense to be using 10th or 9th.
Then again: he had rare magic artillery DPM class.
Maybe his supertier cast time was reduced or something.
Maybe his regular 10th was as powerful as supertier.
There was also some headcanon about "Pseudo 12th tier" Ulbert spell probably capable of breaking continents.
I think Ulbert was able to come close to World item power with a combo of Super tier and a shit ton of buffs and equipment.
But I think (think, not sure) Ainz specifically says that Super tier cast time cannot be shortened other than with cash items.
>No. Time stop.
No. Martial Arts and counter measures.
>No. 10th tier AOE Hellfire one-shots BS.
No. demiurge isn't shalltear so it isn't as powerful, KC easily counters it with his equipment and skills.
>Ever heard of teleportation, humiefag?
Ever heard of teleport countermeasures nazarick fag?
>what happened in the novel is headacanon
Would make sense for both or either really.
Low tier res is tier 5. I can't believe that the SB didn't min max at least one character to either rez or churn out rez scolls, with higher tier stuff too.
Low tier rez saps a lot of xp/life force. Higher tier costs less.
Ainz probably has at least a few thousand of them though, possibly hundreds of thousands. When I've played a game with rez scrolls/items, my guild and team, even just me, always found that people horde the shit out of them. End up with them just building up.
This thread is stale, but not this tale anon.
At least try to be creative about your bait.
Imagine Herohero and BukuBuku merging into one entity
>Unsinkable Equipment Buster Healer Monk
>Sasuga Yggdrasil developers
Don't you think even idle-state Shalltear would judge it inefficient to break her nails against a high end walking armor?
And I assume PDL didn't use some scrub-level gear.
You won't even be bathed in blood and gore or hear screams of agony if you do it, what's the pleasure?
Correct way would gear up and deal with it ASAP.
did anyone ever confirm if this pic was supposed to be her irl?
I'm well aware this is bait, but I'll say this for the record: Shalltear putting her gear on does not mean she would have lost to PDL's armor without it. That is your head cannon. If I use scissors to cut open a package, does that mean it's absolutely impossible for me to open it with my bare hands? No, it's a matter of convenience. Similarly, it's easier for Shalltear to rek PDL with gear, that doesn't mean it was absolutely necessary for her to use her gear.
Not to worry, she'll fuck up big time at the end of Overlord.
Probably causing "Downfall of the Kingdom" author told us about.
I just heard it on 4chan.
It must be true.
It isn't, I went and searchead So-Bin's twitter and pixiv and I couldn't find this pic or any other where he stated that it was irl Bukubuku. Also the whole rumor of that being Bukubuku came from some random tumblr account so I wouldn't trust it.
I like it
Author said Albedo was going to bring down the kingdom.
Some people think he means the SKAOG, despite the fact that he said that while in the process of writing Vol 10, where Albedo goes to the Re-Estize kingdom with the express purpose of bringing down said kingdom.
i.e. a load of shit. She's not, or if she is, that won't be for a long time and hasn't been hinted yet.
>~250 y\o Vampire
>5th tier confirmed
What about werewolves anon?
It seems that living for a long time is a requirement for NWer to grow considerably strong, above mid tier Yggdrasil entities (EE, Rigrit, Fluder, Dragon Lords).
We've yet to see exceptional 50+lvl warriors that are not God Kin.
My bet that NW vampire or werewolf might learn some powerful MA over the centuries and close on PDL in powerlevel.
it's a shame Ainz doesn't know [Sword of Damocles] sounds like a cool spell
>Ainz finally decides to do sex-ed with the twins.
>Decides to do one at a time, starting with Mare.
>Mare immediately goes for the practical
>Ainz runs away screaming like a girl, delegates job to Demi instead.
Was Smaragdina gay for Ainz?
And jealous of his friendship with Peroronchino?
Is that why Chair and Albedo are such a
That squirrel got a lot going for him, all wasted.
bukubu-san really knew how to torment momonga-san eh?
I wish the LN I'm reading through right now had some kind of supplement manga so I could talk about it freely without mods instantly deleting it.
having a normal mana pool probably gimps pandora's actor a bit. he can cast something like 80% grand catastrophe, but he'd have to spend the rest of the fight as 80% touch me or warrior takemikezuchi.
it seems like he'd be most useful in a big party to fill in weaknesses or strengthen advantages.
I read the LN twice and I still don't know how it works
TGOALIS is an instant kill spell that kills a target regardless of resistances or undead status after 12 seconds, basically making it the perfect insta-kill. The only way to 'survive' it is to cast a Resurrection spell or item to bring you back after you die (like shalltear).
In the fight with Shalltear, Ainz makes the spell an AoE attack using Wail of the Banshee, which increases the AoE of spells. Meaning everyting in the area, including grass, the earth, even the air died and turned to sand.
That's not quite correct. TGOALID only removes a target's insta death resistances. It is not an instadeath spell by itself, which is why it is combo-ed with Cry of the Banshee, which is an actual instadeath spell. TGOALID is essentially a debuff skill.
It removes death resistance for EVERYTHING. No exceptions.
But it takes 12 seconds to be in effect and the giant ticking clock just screams "attack me" so it wasn't of much use in the game.
The banshee cry was what killed everything, TGOALID just made it possible.
BS has access to similar level items as Shalltear (passed down from 6 Gods), they can tank it with res items.
Too much bait. Calm down, anon. You need to take a class in subtlety.
>yfw the 6 Great Gods were just lvl 60 scrubs
>yfw all their items are low level Ygg trash
>yfw BS can't tank 6th tier spells
>yfw Anyone in Nazarick can solo the BS
Mare has some weird stat distribution for a spellcaster.
>this is what humiefags actually believe
Nice headconnon but what makes you think that Demi would
1. Run out in the open like that
2. Be unable to react as fast as some human even with his vastly superior intellect and level
3. Not be able to control them
>b-but muh kc blocked shalltear hand swipe
Blocking a handswipe is not even close to being able to block a mental attack plus Shalltear wasn't even fully equipped
Here's your (you)
nice Mare can solo BS in melee then
No, the author said overlord will end with "a downfall of a kingdom" and that this is the prologue of sorts..
Since ainz has all the known kingdom's so he will mess up somehow, maybe he'll make the Sorcerer Empire instead.
you need a brain to get mindcontrolled
Just finished vol 9 and holy shit what a finale. Gazef might actually have been able to kill Ainz (or reveal a huge weakness) if Ainz didn't have time-stop magic. Razor Edge must have some insane stats, possibly even a WCI.
It's the same thing in every fucking MMORPG, anon.
>pic related and this >>147452271 will never happen
It's hard to keep living knowing this will never happen and Ainz is stuck with shit like Gorilla and Lamprey. Boing boing Aura is the only hope left.
>Gazef might actually have been able to kill Ainz
No. Don't misunderstand. Ainz only stated the sword would be able to harm him (get passed his high tier physical nullification) and could potentially kill him, assuming Gazef was able to land 5,000,000 hits on Ainz while Ainz did nothing. Ainz never stated the sword could one-shot him.
It's a just a shitty rune.
Just shows how weak the kingdom and humans are, if a rune that dwarf's sell is their treasure.
>Teapot was a caster right?
>She was a crafter
It's going to be interesting to see if Nazarick equipment can get runes imbued. If yes then does Ainz just go with the shitty runes, or take his time to level up a Master Runesmith to 100 for those top-tier runes?
Anon, please consider that the kingdom is the starting zone of the new world. There are lvl 80 monsters roaming around the place, remember?
>when Demi punches Albedo and mentions her hard abs
this is my fetish
ahh yes the "Nazarick was holding back" argument.
>S-Shalltear wasn't using her full strength when she one-shot Shieldbro
>CD can never be as strong as my power fantasy team even though one of the characters literally said she is similar in strength
>Aura says she can defeat it on her own
>Cocytus says any guardian can defeat it on their own
>Ainz says the entire thing is just a team training exercise
>Cocytus was about to one-shot it
>Demiurge calls it a small fry
>Guardians hold back the entire time
>Ainz one-shots it
Humiefag, you need better quality bait.
Ah, the humiefag is still using shitty bait.
>Shalltear wasn't using her full strength when she one-shot Shieldbro
She used one skill.
>one of the characters literally said she is similar in strength
He said CD was weaker than Shalltear. Shalltear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CD
Give me more bait humie, I'm hungry.
Imagine giving Lupusregina
imagine going down on lupu then sneezing in her fur because you're allergic to dogs
I can though, and I translated that one already. I'll do it again just for you.
Lastborn >> If it were Lupus going with Momo - His Majesty Gown*, wouldn't it be better? (this way, my Narberal won't be taken away from me...)
Lastborn >> Although...the ears...
Narberal >> Why don't we just say they're a magic item?
*She calls him 'Your Excellency' but it's like a modern version of Your Imperial Majesty
Anon, as long as Ainz has his constant poker-face no one can see through his bullshit. We can because we're shown his monologues. Renner has to be an OP mind reader who's skill can bypass even a lvl 100 Overlord's passive nullification to be able to catch him because whatever he does turns out to be something unbelievably awesome and far fetched.
>Gazef might've actually been able to kill Ainz
Ainz said 'harm me'. It can harm him the same way punching the Alps harms it. Yeah if I kept at it for thousands of years it'd make a dent of some sort, sure.
I imagine Hamsuke gained what amounts to five levels in warrior at least, since before he basically just used his tail and if you blocked that charged you and used his tail again if you could break his hide. He really didn't have any concept of strategy beyond shit that basic (although I guess charm species counts) and didn't have any skills that would suit a warrior or something
Also he now has experience, remember him fighting the guy buried in elven traditions, Hamsuke fought intelligently against him.
It isn't actually weak. Its just that its requirement are kinda hard to fulfill. Notice that he had to sacrifice 70,000 souls to summon five lvl 90 monsters. In game it hardly ever crossed 1 count. So, in a pvp or even pve its not as effective.
It implies that your own summons are considered entirely separate entities for purposes of abilities and that can easily extend into experience as 'souls'. It's not certain but neither is the idea that you don't get XP from killing your own fuckers
I wasn't the original guy, I'm just saying that he probably would
Also I don't remember him ever killing his own summons, all he's done is dismiss them which isn't the same thing.
I think that's more like wishful thinking from people who wish the series had more tension
Am I the only one who misheard the ED as "Don't you gimme your love infection"?
Speed and maneuverability. Her trump card was to stab her opponents skull right in the eyes. She made the stupid mistake of coming across Ainz' pet party and murdering them horribly.
But that is what you get for ganking low level players.
>Renner is a god-level omniscient intellect that far surpasses Demi and Albedo and can see through Ainz's act in 2 seconds
She's managed to affect the Empire's policies and knows everything about every corner of both governments despite not having access to any reports
She's like a walking Laplace Demon as far as we can tell.
>saw through her act
For all we know she could've been the one signalling subtly after she heard there was a disastrously powerful magic caster that saved Gazef's ass.
>who couldn't take over the Kingdom
She doesn't want to, it's literally not on her agenda. That's like saying 'Stalin who couldn't even take a shit on India's shitting streets'.
When Ainz out keikakus Renner im literally going to cum I think, my number one joy in Overlord is when he accidentally a genius
Ainz doesn't have to do a thing for master plans to come into action
I don't think Renner is going to see through Ainz, although the possibility gets higher if she only meets him after volume 15 (basically it'd indicate that she's probably involved in volumes 16-18, the final arc, and would be the final antagonist), I'm just saying she actually probably is incredibly bullshit intelligent
Ainz rolls nat 20s when it matters and autopasses deception and bluff checks so he's never going to fail.
Do we actually know what the Throne of Kings does?
I have a theory that its power is responsible for the slow transformation of Ainz into the supreme ruler that everyone thinks he is.
Even if was only for fluff in Yggdrasil, in NW where things are more realistic, it could actually be turning him into a king.
Not the floors, in the prologue they note that they had a bunch of extra levels, ostensibly for clearing it the first time through, but it might be that the Throne of Kings spawns for the first party that clears certain very-high-level dungeons on the first try.
More importantly if it was a WCI then Ainz would've realized and fucking confiscated it and nuked everyone around for miles casualties and plans be damned, WCI are absolutely disgustingly dangerous respect for gazef won't be enough to save him.
That's his point.
Okay, in case anyone is a retard; Holy Smite hurt Ainz because it was 7th tier magic, not because Dominion was lvl 60+ or anything like that. Ainz has immunity to lower tier spells, but 7th tier can damage him, albeit by a minuscule amount.
We don't know Dominion Authority isn't level 60+ and in this case it actually makes loads of sense. Dominions are second sphere angels and the highest within that sphere, they're the 4th rank out of 9. Cherubim Gatekeepers are level 80 and those are the 2nd rank out of nine right below Seraphim. If we assume that angels go
Angels - 10
Archangels - 20
Principalities - 30
Powers - 40
Virtues - 50
Dominions - 60
Thrones - 70
Cherubim - 80
Seraphim - 90
Serahpim Empyrean - 100
This also shows why Archangels could fuck up Gazef's elite squadron and why Gazef could kill quite a few of them but had a limit, because while they're weaker they're not complete garbage compared to him.
Depends, the dress sounds like low-end WCI when considering game mechanics that it allows the user to enslave one target and puppet them, presumably one at a time and/or with time limit.
Making use of something like that in-game sounds like major pita unless you're into 6 vs <6 ganking or stopping someone from using super-tiers that already had better counters for them in most cases.
And we don't know how the end years population fared in Ygg, since even Ainz could solo farm out of boredom to make new mountains of gold for Ygg, though presumably by hiring merc npcs for the grind.
Well you might be able to snipe raid bosses with that thing, the only thing that'd be immune might be World Enemies. If you sniped that Jupiter Tempest motherfucker and drove him around...
Wait a minute, at first we have Climbfags, then we have Moralfags.
Nowadays both have disappeared and now we have Humiefags.
Is there a chance the Climbfags and Moralfags have somewhat combined like Hydrogen + Chloride to form Humefags?
Yeah, if the NW were a game, you'd just see some 1 pt damage icons popping up. Like 5 or 6 of them around Ainz. Ainz probably has like 20K hit points with Magic Resistance of 95.
I was hoping for an intermission where ST spies in E-Rantel give information that Ainz can casually summon 4 Cherubs to be his body guards when one of their treasures is only a Dominion.
Druidzilla. Slap a bunch of buffs on yourself, shapeshift into something scary and melee it up better than dedicated melee classes.
Bonus points if Aura's buffs also affect beast-mode Mare too.
Probably not or records of such entities were lost with times since they call their Dominions the "highest".
Well that could also be smalltimer-complex and be a statement from "anything higher can be only done by our Gods!".
Would be pretty great shock when their spies from E-Rantel deliver the report that Ainz can summon higher-tier angels that respect him as summoner even when he is undead.
But I'd rather take a meeting with E-Rantel's heads of churches in the face of that fact, between themselves or with Ainz as intermission. Would make for an interesting discussion about gods and one way to show us the results of Ainz's experiments with manipulating Roberdyck (dead or not).
The idea of the churches banding together to declare a jihad on Ainz is amusing, but it'll become a nightmare when Ainz decides to eliminate the problem by exterminating all religions whose gods don't show up to defend them.
>Ainz can summon higher-tier angels that respect him as summoner even when he is undead
This is what I'm looking forward to as well long with other things. ST thinks that angels are holy beings and undead/demons etc are evil beings. What their reaction would be when they see that an undead is controlling their holy deities like its nothing...?
That would be fucking hilarious, destroying the four gods with elemental angels and having a swarm of avenging angels rek the ST.
She's a golem too, thus she is a mechanical angel of destruction and rebirth.
Golem or not she has been "activated" so it implies she has been paired with some sort of construct or sealing.
Either way it would be interesting for Ainz to finally venture into 8th Floor solo and give us a tour with tea picnic at the shrine of Lastborn about the floor.
Unless of course author plans to withhold that information into the end of times when it's warranted that some hapless shitters or humies/dragon lords are corralled into the grinder of 8th Floor just for amusement of Nazarick citizen watching the procession from Throne Room.
Start from the beginning, anime handled 1st and 2nd volume pretty well and made a butchering of 3rd but you still lose extremely valuable character building and tidbit details of NW/Yggdrasil by skipping the early volumes.
Angels in Christian theology literally don't have free will so there's that. Lucifer is the special case.
Angels are only 'good' because they work for God, who is good literally by definition.
You can kill Rubedo though, she's not literally invincible.
>if you stat it you can kill it
What if something has 100% resistance to everything and nullfies all bypass abilities
What if something is a meta-being
True, same with the mystery of Ainz being transferred to New World. Leaving it as a mystery and never going back to real world or addressing it is a better solution and the mystery itself is like fine wine.
Trying to explain the mystery away or make the New World completely moot with some stupid "And then he woke up..." resolution would just result in bad hangover. A mystery is more enticing than casual reality.
In Islam though, Lucifer/Satan/Shaitan/Iblesse isn't an angel. He's a djinn. Lord of all djinns and had even higher rank than Jibrael/Gabreal who is lord of all angels. Other things are just the same the he lost the status because of prejudice etc etc.
I know that Christianity is the main influence most of the time. I just wanted to leave it here.
Couldnt Ainz have used those 70000 souls to Wish for something that could make Nazarick stop worrying about he leaving them instead of showing how big his dick was to the surrounding nations?
Of course you can kill Rubedo. We'll just never be given information on the 8th floor as a whole, or exactly what wiped the raid, etc. because if that information were given, readers would be able to come up with countermeasures which would undermine the entire idea that the 8th floor is an impenetrable wall of bullshit.
One of my old amusement what-if plays in the old threads was that Ainz always thinks of the npcs as his friends or his own children is that what if Ainz decided to try creating a new npc as the guildmaster.
And test the rules at the same time but in so manages to activate the safety AI of Ariadne and binds "her" to be the npc.
So now he has an entity worth being feared of but he has no idea what rules bind it in the New World or how she ties into the functions of Nazarick and/if she can be manipulated.
Congratulations, now he'd have a real petulant child to look after and all the npcs, Demiurge included, would be creaming all over the place over how Ainz can bend the universe around with his hands.
Well and that would also fix the problem of successor and if he asked input from Albedo/the rest it would be their creation too in a way. Merry family of demons and fiends, much to the dismay of New World.
>TFW the BS fall into a trap and are transported to the Eight Floor
Not him but I doubt authohr would give out all of that information before it was relevant to the theme of the current 3vol arc in progress.
But sure, I'd love to see another outmaneuvered as fuck imbeciles getting caught up by 8th Floor in Operation Gehenna Mk.2.
Well what if the reason that Thousand-miles Astrologer locked herself into her room and has little contact outside is that she was already ensnared or enslaved by Nigredo when she was let to intentionally spy on the war between Empire/Ainz vs Kingdom?
Would make for an interesting foothold in ST territory and Nigredo can just try the water temperature so to speak while keeping the Astrologer enslaved as a mole, just to get reliable information for Ainz's future forks of the masterplan.
Massive what-if but still, author might surprise us down the road with making seemingly wanton tidbit of information play out a bigger role in the arcs after Kingdom annexation.
>no sex slave arche
What a disappointment, the editor needs to fired for allowing this.
You're blaming the wrong people. Its the nips that voted it.
Doesn't Nigredo have a bunch of intel based skills? Surely there has to be something like Lesser Mind Control. If not, maybe Nigredo just spammed a shit ton of spying spells of all flavors so the Astrologer can't even schlick without Nigredo getting top tier info and analysis on what she's doing, who she's doing it to, the average time it takes per orgasm, etc in Yggdrasil's built-in spreadsheet application. Fuck, Nigredo probably spends most of her time analyzing data and spewing out graphs and slideshows on how to use her tendency to anally masturbate to solidify Ainz's hold on the metalworking industry.
NW has magic and magical creatures. It has angels and demons as well. I know that players were the ones who taught humans magic but it is still a fact that unlike real world, magic exists in NW and that is why they are able to use it.
What are the chances that there is also hell and heaven? What are the chances that there are beings who rule over these two planes? And what are the chances that there is a being similar to marvel's TOAA who rules over NW's universe?
Fluder already mentioned close to nobody bothers with anti-divination measures so I doubt she would be an exception enough to be able to withstand a counter-attack by the Nazarick's defensive layer that even Ainz didn't want to mess with in 3rd volume.
Just swap the damaging spells into high-tier divination counters or charms and mask them so that she would doubt even her own shadow or slip actual shadow demons to torment her.
Yeah improbable as fuck and even the original idea is over the top silly but alas I was enticed by the seemingly "random" tidbit given by the Cardinals that she refuses to meet people and has locked herself into her room.
It might be absolutely nothing but alas it's still curious tidbit to share now, seemingly off-hand.
To see what will come out of her actions in the future arcs and if she will be a central figure to getting Theocracy involved with Momon/Ainz.
If so then she is going to be what Fluder was to Empire, a co-ordinator for a casus belli. Willingly stringed along or forced to bow in. If there's even a hint of her making a stage or having "eating problems" it would be a tell-tale signal she has been broken.
The Cardinals still don't know what killed the other diviner that was supposed to be safeguarding Nigun so from that you could gather they have no real grasp of what passed as pvp in divination/countering in Yggdrasil when the poor girl was killed by mere low-tier attack spell by Ainz.
No, that's just propaganda of the Empire, Dark young ones are cute CUTE
This guy has it wrong. >>147473108
The nips voted for Arche's fate in the WN. They wanted Arche to live, and so in the WN she becomes an anal slave to Shalltear. She ultimately ends up happily living in a cottage with her sisters on the 5th floor. Maruyama thought it was more fitting in the series for her to die. So he killed her off in the LN.
Volume 10: Both Nigredo and Pestonya are released from confinement and are later put in charge of managing a new war orphanage in E-Rantel in order to help with integrating future generations to stay loyal to Nazarick.
Possible but we don't know what the house arrest entails, I doubt Nigredo would be relieved of her duties and task and it's not like she can't work her magic or do her duties under house arrest.
House arrest was merely used to appease Albedo that they needed some sort of punishment and Ainz let them off lightly.
Just the house arrest alone is silly, Nigredo never visited Ainz in the Throne Room so locking her to the room she usually is more or less of no concern.
And the defensive system of Nazarick is automated so Nigredo wouldn't be needed either way to spring the traps after it has been configured.
Granted this would just mean Astrologer walked on the mine without anyone being there reaping the benefits.
In the end it's just wild speculation, all that is 100% sure is that Astrologer isn't her usual self during the events of 10th volume and her antics were triggered by what she witnessed in the late-winter war. Rest is up to raving lunacy like mine, or steered debating.
Oh, I get the rough idea.
>Martial arts can counter Ygg magic/skills
Probably yes. If powerlevel close enough, of course.
>Renner is a god-level omniscient intellect that far surpasses Demi and Albedo and can see through Ainz's act in 2 seconds
Even if she will, she won't say anything. Albedo and Demiurge will immediately kill her after first hint of disrespect.
He at least had some limits, Shalltear doesnt(?).
the older peroroncino got, the younger he wished he made shalltear
I know right, all those incest superstitions in our society.
They should be able to kiss each other without any problems
and fuck too.
Anon Ainz is 5'11" manlet and you're telling me Aura and Chair are higher?
Nah, he'll spam summons from out of their range until WCI user is dead then present it to his brocrush Ainz.
He can do it after getting back to safety and transmitting vital information to Nazarik habitants. He is loyal and evil, but not retarded like certain someone.
Retreat, assess the situation, then go full force.
Ainz has drilled all NPCs with what to do when faced with a force of unknown strength. I doubt the NPCs will go about disobeying those orders just to score against those who are carrying WCI.
Demiurge fully understood the reasoning behind it, hence why the information network of Nazarick has been massively expanded so as to prevent their own people from getting ganked.
Daily reminder that Climb is Mithril-rank with ring and [Limit Breaker].
Humiefags are those retards who think the people of the NW, particularly humans, can defeat Nazarick.
>Martial arts can probably counter Ygg magic/skills
No anon, you don't understand. Humiefags often suggest that martial arts such as Clem's [Full Throttle] can counter time stop magic. That is idiocy.
>LN is now allowed on /a/
>Requesting manga thread
>Imagine trap owlbear
>A pinnacle of humanity
>Offed by a single shy trap elf
>Cardinals go picrelated when they see the scene with divination
Yggdrasil is bound to have temporal race change items or transformation spells.
He can at least take responsibility and relieve Albedo stress once a day.
Btw, I am the only one who think that Evileye's speech about losing humanity is a steaming pile of bullshit?
You need to have superhuman body to match superhumans in battle. You either angel, demon, dragon, vampire, player and so on or useless in major leagues.
It's as simple as that.
She probably has legit issues but doesn't appreciate that her power lets her ignore a lot of crap other people have to deal with.
The difference between her and Ainz is that Ainz knows how it's like on the top and the bottom.
I think what is required for NWer to get past Ygg mid tier is to live fucking long, learn a fuckload of things, train etc.
Should there be a potion of immortality not infusing NWer with Ygg further - we would have 100lvl aboriginal human in half a millennia.
>Ouroboros or Five Elements were used to infuse NW with Ygg system
But what allowed these items to be used? They also need Ygg system to be in working condition to take effect.
The problem is that guerillas without IEDs are basically gangs of hooligans. In Gate, the Empire tried that on the JSDF with limited success and only got as far as they did because the JSDF was on patrol and was not authorized to exterminate them.
Ainz has the benefit of Nigredo's satellite imaging and Shalltear to Gate Death Knight murder squads anywhere they're needed and Chair herself can Charm anyone they capture. Each pioneer village has a Soul Eater or Death Knight manning it that can destroy an entire nation by itself. Anyone who thinks they can massacre villages like they did in v1 is going to have a very rude shock once the level 70+ minions kick down the door on their hideouts, led by charmed former allies.
>Ulbert had brocrush on Momonga.
>Touch me was probably same.
>The whole guild stayed intact mainly because of Momonga.
>Bukubuku secretly crushed on Momonga as well.
>Pero was almost the similar case.
I wonder if Suzuki was a no-life-shut-in only because he chose to be one. Maybe he himself never took any interest in anything beside Yggdrasil.
>chose to be one
Anon it's usually like that in 9/10 cases.
Puny personal insecurities combined with infantile mindset is what give birth to MMO addicts.
All this can be fixed, should there be a will to do it.
Also don't blame him for making this choice:
>Mom died making sandwich
>No father figure = no girls
>Probably had to work as soon as school ended
>Shadowrun-grade greedy corporations
>Workplace safety and ethics nonexistent
Dragging the system to NW from shutting down Yggdrasil?
Or they're like a localized package of Yggdrasil system: once you deploy it - it spreads Yggdrasil in all directions.
Might be how Five Elements worked.
>they also need.
World Class Items lore-wise are literally an entire worldplane in item form, they can probably do shit like retcon themselves into having the power to retcon themselves into having power.
It is because he is the greatest and wisest of the Supreme Beings that he can understand even the most miniscule of details which would be beneath his minions' notice. You must learn from and understand Ainz-sama's ways, even if you have difficulty grasping them.
He even said himself that he's more of an S.
this is how their mom looks like.
the yggdrasil engine probably combined with the new world's physics/existential rules, forming a hybrid ruleset. what caused this/when it happened is the same as asking what brought the players over. they're both data from the servers, one's made tangible, the other an intangible engine.
wci can edit the engine because it's built to allow that.
>Nigredo probably spends most of her time analyzing data and spewing out graphs and slideshows on how to use her tendency to anally masturbate to solidify Ainz's hold on the metalworking industry.
So she's basically a
> it's usually like that in 9/10 cases
I'll have to agree with you. But be assured, I'm not blaming him for anything. It was his choice and it didn't turn out too bad in anyway for him.
This discussion is leading upto "whether this is a simulation or not" topic. If it's a simulation than moving a working system to another one makes sense. But moving a system working only in machines to a new dimension and applying it on the very fabrics of that dimension's planes is a completely different thing.
I think there's no point to dig further on this topic because it'll only raise further questions.
Ah. For me to not be able to even understand our ruler brings me such shame. Thank you for opening my eyes to even a fraction more of Ainz-sama's brilliance. Sasuga Ainz-sama! Ainz-sama banzai!
>But moving a system working only in machines to a new dimension and applying it on the very fabrics of that dimension's planes is a completely different thing.
It's really not relevant. The actual idea of magic existed beforehand while it seems levels whether or not they exist in the NW are more of an approximation of the Ygg system than actually the Ygg system.
Remember how the flavor text actually comes true for NPCs? Yeah, it probably does for items too. If an item is literally a self-contained world it can do whatever the fuck it wants because it is literally a self-contained worldsystem
>Game company was developing an even more detailed sequel to Yggdrasil
>Relied heavily on sophisticated PCG based on some cutting edge science theories
>For convincingly deep, living and breathing setting
>Left PCG and algorithms to brew on their own to create original backstory
>Implemented enough details
>So that unseen laws and quantum effects kicked in
>Creating a fucking parallel universe
>A star system with 9 celestial bodies
>Each representing Yggdrasil worlds
>Developers grew scared
>Specifically because a bridge existed and were left open between Ygg1 and Ygg2
>Found out data from Ygg1 is being transferred to Ygg2
>We're closing Yggdrasil
>The actual idea of magic existed beforehand
This was exactly my point in the original comment though. Magic was already there and Ygg items got integrated with this world's magic and resulted into a whole new system.
My exact question was, what are the chances that literal Gods and the likes do exist in the NW because magic is a legit thing here and existed way before any player's arrival.
At the very least they didn't care enough to stop the Human's faith from getting stolen - they might be the type who aren't faith-based and have their own legit power separate from worshiping plebs.
Actual high divine beings really shouldn't give too much of a shit about pleb worlds beyond how amusing they are to them since they exist in a higher worldplane
Our world would basically be a playthrough of Simearth or Civ 4 on spectator more or less.
It doesn't have to be a Christianity/Jewdism/Islam type of god who only cares about humans faith. Like I said it could be someone like marvel's The one above all. Made the universe, got bored and started doing something else. Kinda like >>147477228 said.
>what are the chances that literal Gods and the likes do exist
i really like that maruyama made the origin setting a science fiction world, because you can go any number of sci-fi routes to explain it (parallel universes, simulation), or just go with the default fantasy explanations (magic, gods).
whatever you like best is basically the truth, because it'll never get explained
Ironically Christianity/Jewdaism/Islam Gods are also described by Sitchin being simply at odds with each other thus fueling the strive between their worshippers so that pelbs will mantain the size of God beef against another factions even without direct involvement from Gods themselves.
I don't know what to make of this. Don't know much about Sitchin and his work but its a fact that Christianity/Islam/Jewdism has basically same God. The God in all these religions is one same being.
Well, they are called Abrahamic religions for a reason.
In Sitchin work while Gods supposed to be united - they bickered, conspired and fought with each other for the duration of their stay on Earth.
The direct confrontations happened, but was heavily condemned by hierarchy leaders.
Thus Gods spawned numerous demi-gods as well as installed religious institutes on their beef and basically played Civilization to vent their frustration and anger on another party without actually spilling "Blue Blood".
They fucked off cuz they mined their plan of precious metals and also cuz lower rank Gods mixed blood with filthy humies and no one wanted to deal with arrogant half-breeds running around spouting about their rights of inheritance.
The Jerusalem supposed to be their Command\Flight Control center in the past.
Explains the constant conflict around it in Human History.
I would say she's stupid but not stupid enough to waste effort ripping apart a high-end armor with her bare hands.
If it was the living being with blood, internal organs that would scream in agony while painting the landscape and Chair red - that would be another story.
She just judged that it's best use weapon to dispatch with armor.
It's no fun playing with it.
Ah I see! I get the gist of it now. But it sounds more like a fiction story than an origin theory though.
Can't say much about Christianity and Judism but
In Islam, other two religions are actually incomplete versions of Islam. God sent around 124000 prophets from Adam to Prophet Muhammad's time but their messages were all misinterpreted in one way or the other and resulted into various forms of religions and stuff.
It's based on Sumerian\Accadian\Egyptian\Greek pantheon where Gods had same passions as men, but consequences of their actions were on another scale altogether.
It's basically "Ancient Aliens" where "Aliens" are just slightly different and much more advanced version of humans (seeded by same origin of life, but evolved earlier and in different conditions).
They created humans for slave labor originally but took a liking to them in the end, even mixed blood with them, giving rise to "Royalty" that claimed ancestorship from Gods throughout history.
Well it's just that, I can't imagine downfall coming from anywhere else. I doubt scrubgods would have a wci for any reason... But if what you say is true then this really opens up the possibilities because it would mean there is a very real chance of other players still hiding somewhere in NW... Players that never came out into the spotlight. Hmm
Is there any art of Albedo's axe by so-bin? I always image it like pic related (forgive the shit edit)
This is the old translation. The CN rendered it as "battleaxe".
バルデイシュ. It was literally described as a bardiche, which is why I changed it around when I redid it. Doesn't quite roll off the tongue, but that's what it is.
Anon, I can't gain promotions with that link.
Thanks for clarifying. Bardiches are way cooler than battle axes.
Come to think of it,
>Moralfags are kinda acidic, always attacking Ainz's actions
>Climbfags are always slippery in explaining questions posted asking them about their point of view.
That explains everything!
So-bin did a sample sketch of Alfredo in armor for the animators to reference.
So she has feet afterall. I thought her legs were just black needles or something.
Armor might be gender neutral but things like coats of plates and lamellar for example can be 'dress-like' enough for you to be able to tell how relatively wide their shoulders, waists, and hips are.
Only if you're not wearing underarmor.
C'mon this is going out of your way to show your gender through armor. It's like saying helmets look male because pic related exist.
If anything, I'd say white plate looks a kinda feminine, because of the thin waist and stuffed chest.
This is anime though, men won't be wearing tits.
Yeah but like there's still going to be a difference between a bulky dude and a 10/10 90-60-90 woman, which every anime girl is.
Sure, but for that you'd have to have a way of making a comparison.
Albedo's armor is unique to her, so even if it looks smaller on her than on a bulky dude, it was never worn by a bulky dude in a first place to have a reference for comparison.
In LN her armor was gender-neutral, without armored tits.
It was generally angled at that place, but still functional.
Making two cones for tatas is a good way to break your fucking chest with impact nor spreading evenly across the surface of your body.
This is the whole reason of full plate.
I know it was gender neutral though.
In which case Albedo's armor literally isn't gender-neutral, it's made for a female.
Look she blocked an ult that can kill something with 'HP off the chart' with one fucking hand
Shield kind of fell out of fashion with full plate since a guy in full plate is basically fucking invulnerable
Albedo's armor's main purpose seems to be completely nullifying attacks three times
>blocks Immovable Myou'ou's Fist with ONE HAND out of her armor
Takes what amounts to 10% damage if that
>fell out of fashion
>armor have tits
Yes, I understand that anime got to appeal to wider auditory
of retardsthan LN did.
It still doesn't make me like this fact.
I think you might be onto something with the Throne of Kings.
It was extremely rare to clear a dungeon on the first go, normally it would take several attempts. The Throne of Kings was awarded by the devs, so clearing Nazerick in one go was clearly something that made the game devs sit up and go "huh, thats pretty good, lets give them some shit".
>muh 30 lvl 100 golems
Meanwhile in the deepest part of Nazarick's treasury are 37 high leveled cash shop item Avatara(Golems) with full divine gear sets each designed to defend the very gear they wear as well as all of AOG's WCIs.
You try learning a written language without any help because you can't hear when they're saying in the original language. Then imagine that literally all Eurasian languages plus those from North Africa have some sort of connection, however small, then imagine that basically all languages in a line from India / Persia to Europe have even more shit in common as does shit to the east and northeast of that line.
But she is a fantasy tank!
Without a shield for fucks sake!
She even had one in LN.
>muh 30 100lvl golems
Hey, hands off my headcanon.
I'm also no humiefag.
>While he still could not understand their letters, he had memorized a few phrases, which included the month and the year.
He's jap, he should be able to do this. I mean they're using like 3 alphabets.
I'm saying she probably doesn't even need the damn armor
Two of them are pronounced the exact same way, the third is just Chinese. It's not 'three alphabets', it's just a form of writing. I'm not joking, pick up a book in Russian or Old French and try learning with without any other help. There's a reason we still don't fucking understand what a lot of languages mean or how they're read because they didn't leave some sort of 'rosetta stone', it's almost impossible to figure out a closely related language on your own let alone a completely fucking foreign one like they'd be using in NW. Basically the only way we can try is using word frequency analysis and similar techniques.
>literally the strongest shit in the world so far as the Giant Tree
>she tanked something that would've killed it in one hit and probably overkilled it seeing how immediately Demiurge reacted saying it'd end the tree taking miniscule damage
1. She was wearing armor
2. She lost her arm, that's supposed to be translated in significant % of HP lost
3. Tree HP was great, not the defense
>as a mage he is actively stopped from wielding melee weps
That's what I said.
He can't learn to override Ygg rules (probably), but he can learn skills like leadership, language, deciphering, game theory etc.
>but he can learn skills like leadership, language, deciphering, game theory etc.
And sword skills?
As in, he can learn how to fight as a swordsman. When he fought Clem he was just swinging wildly, but later on he's refined his technique to a fairly impressive degree. He's an actually skilled swordsman.
But he can't equip swords without PW, unless they are magical creations.
Yes, he improved them already.
It says hand, but this nip word can be easily translated like an arm
It's not necessarily mean "palm".
Pic related belonged to a mercenary in the Carthaginian army during the Second Punic War. Don't judge a warrior by his breastplate.
Zweihanders were for breaking up formations of pikemen and such. Shields were still useful in conjunction with one-handed maces and hammers.
Two handed weapons only became a common sight with the advent of full plate armor which made shields much less necessary than before. It used to be that you'd die like a rat if you didn't carry a shield before you even reached the enemy.
nervous nelly dryad was a qt. she got broken in suprisngly fast. hope the fluid druid doesnt rape her too hard.