Rules, Regulations and Moderation For /a

He's not going to fucking read this shit.

categorically ban all phone posters

No mods.

Self moderation.

>>147367052
>something impossible

The 60-second timer really is bullshit though.

Doesn't /co/ have a normal 30-second timer? Why must an image board have such a long limit in boards where image dumps were frequent?

Years ago you could come on /a/ and jump into a storytime thread on most days, now you'd be lucky to find one unless they have a Jew pass.

It's such a simple fix. Why are we here to suffer?

>>147367004
>making lithe the tenth thread even though he said one per board in the fucking picture you posted
Stop this cancer, he does not care.

lurk more

Reminder that it's not that there are aren't enough mods. It's that the mods refuse to do their job.

Also >>147363288 would fix a lot of our problems.

>>147367004
>Previous thread
You're part of the problem.

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Ironic how this is turning into a general

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i propose a permanent stickied shinka thread

>>147367116
>>147367123
Can we say that this thread is proof positive that generals have to go?

>>147367004
>Hiro has asked us to create a thread on each board for discussing the problems that are facing us and how to deal with them.
No he didnt. I read that thread too, if its allowed doesnt mean you have to make it a general
Fuck off

>>147367086
It is one per board. The old one was the very last thread in the catalog on page 10 when I posted it. I waited until the very last minute to post this thread so I could still link forward and backward for ease of archiving. As of 15 seconds ago, it has been archived.

Just because there is a technical excuse doesn't mean you should have such a thread going 24/7. We don't need a fucking mini-/q/ on /a/. Also while I'm at it -

>ban all generals
Not happening. I agree some of them suck, but, you can't arbitrarily nix shit without a real replacement or ruling on such things. /ag/ would be a stupid fucking idea since that would only concentrate circlejerks further without anyone suggesting not to, and officially canonize some of /a/'s worst demons as welcome and OK. It would be counter to what you want.

My suggestion? Act on the behavior in generals you don't like. Call it out, report off topic circlejerks etc. Don't like shipping or het/yuri or studio wars garbage? Express your opinion that this isn't what we want /a/ to condone, and so on.

>>147367123
First it was one thread only, like suggested
Then it was another few because "it's just for that day"
Now there are literally zero reasons for this trash, but the mod is not removing this

>>147367123
Generals are backed by the silent majority. Instead of shitposting in meta threads like the vocal minority of general haters, they are busy discussing anime.

>>147367123
Hiro's direct advice is to create a general thread - one per board - on this topic.

>>147367154
Learn to hide threads.

>>147367004
keep this shit on /qa/ this isnt Annie may related

>>147367167
>Generals are backed by the silent majority.
Keep dreaming you deluded idiot. Generalfags are literally a loud minority. Fuck, generalfags themselves don't even like themselves or their threads. Have you ever went into one?

>>147367173
/tv/ and /pol/. /a/ is so stale this season, I'll probably browse more next season.

>>147367152
One thread means one thread. Not make another one after the last one died. Do you know what you're promoting? Generals. You literally made a general. You're actually fucking retarded anon.

>>147367066
So, /b/?

>>147367173
I have diverse interests, but I started out on /a/ and browse here the most.

Maybe if we actually did shit on previous threads instead of flinging shit at each other this couldn't be happening.

>>147367154
>studio wars garbage
Literally /v/'s mentality, people who shitpost like that just want to shitpost for the sake of shitposting.

>>147367192
people who rage about generals a loud minority

>>147367192
>/a/ is flooded with generals

If people who hated generals were really the majority, they'd be spamming the board with non-generals. Fact of the matter is, the majority is happy with generals and posts in them instead of making new threads.

http://desuarchive.org/a/search/subject/Rules%20and%20Moderation/type/op/
Are 9 threads full with this cancer not enough already?

>>147367154
>without a real replacement
They don't need a replacement, this is a image board not a fucking traditional forum. 4chan ran perfectly fine and actually /better/ without them. Generals serve literally zero purpose and don't create any form of discussion. They are artificial and stagnation, two things chans are meant to be the opposite of.

>>147367200
/b/ has FBI though

>>147367173
/pol/

>inb4 some Redditard/ Tumblrina tells me to go back

>>147367192
Generals are cancerous circlejerks that were so bad that /v/ had to be split into /vg/.

>>147367173
/a/ and /g/, which has gone to shit mostly thanks to /v/ and normalfag cancer

hiroさん、/a/をほっといてください。
このままでいいんですよ
4chanの中で数少ないだいたい合意してるところなんだよ
こういうスレがここを汚すだけで何の意味もない
ここを変えようとする奴らがここを壊そうとしてる奴らだけだ
後ここを管理するならすこしでも英語を勉強してくだいよなめられてるから

Too much newcancer, elitism can't keep up anymore. Too many crossboarders that don't know their place. Lurk moar you fucking filth.

>>147367236
Most of the spammers gave up after being banned dozens and dozens of times.

>one thread per board

We've already had a thread. Fuck off and die. Fucking generalfags.

>>147367249
>4chan ran perfectly fine and actually /better/ without them

Back when there wasn't as much anime. Now everyone fandom wants a slice of /a/.

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>>147367173
/a/ /jp/ /g/ /ck/

>>147367287
Sadly the mods seem to be fucking new too, as they tolerate this trash

>>147367287
>muh crossboarding

I wonder who's the newfriend here

>>147367236
Do you not ever leave your own generals or something? People have, for years. People have bitched about them and tried to spam them away FOR FUCKING YEARS SINCE THEIR INCEPTION. The mods even joined at one point and then they started to ban people for voicing the anti-general sentiment. People don't spam the front page to stop them because it's became obvious it fucking does nothing. Not just that, most users who are against generals are people who have been here for a long time. The sentiment started to die down because everyone just fucking left because its obvious no one fucking cares about the site anymore, not the admin or mods.

>>147367113
Mods are just acting really strange lately
for example you have /a/ that its decently moderated, then some mod goes crazy on /tg/ and bans Dorf Fort + makes /qst/ disaster even worse.
It doesn´t help that the moderation team never comunicates with us
>>147367173
you know what anon, maybe the scariest truth is that they are from /a/ and even /v/ seems to know us better
>>>/v/352175351
check those replies

>>147367289
We're not talking about dub threads or anything rule breaking. We're just talking about non-general anime threads. They're not being made, so the only conclusion is that the majority likes generals.

>>147367258
Guess what, that problem would of been solved if moot just banned them like he wanted to instead of trying to appease a small loud minority. /vg/ only made everything worse and actually destroyed /v/.

>>147367326
>moot just banned them like he wanted

So why didn't he? Was he too busy being a faggot?

>>147367004
You just want excuse for blantant shitposting general which Hiroshima won't even check

>generals will be dead by the end of this year

Thanks moot

>>147367311
If you guys hated generals that much, you'd make anime threads that weren't generals and push them off the board. But you don't.

>The sentiment started to die down because everyone just fucking left because its obvious no one fucking cares about the site anymore, not the admin or mods.

So they're not the majority anymore. Thanks for proving my point.

>>147367176
>Hiro's direct advice
Hiro is an autistic fucktard that has no idea how to interact with anyone and thinks that evoking change is a positive thing just because autistic newfags post on /qa/ and send him emails that tell him so.

>>147367316
>>>/v/352175351
More than half the answers are "muh moeshit" or "I hate our avatarfags, why don't they go to your board instead"

>>147367308
>muh crossboarding
What's next? muuhh boogeyman?

>>147367173
/sci/, /lit/

Started on /b/ back when RP was a normal thing and not completely bad; now I just lurk because I risk namefagging by reflex

>>147367353
Moot is a faggot. Instead of banning Narutards which was the norm at the time he instead saw it as a business opportunity to nurture all these fucking degenerates and give them generals to post in. Basically moot is a fucking cuck.

Holy fuck these threads are still going?

>>147367390
Faggot mod allows them. Probably he's the OP too.

I don't think there's really anything wrong with /a/ currently aside from the 60 second limit for posting.

Like, the few generals we have is like a quarantine thread and we have an equal amount of misc threads that discusses anime and shit and storytime threads pop up every now and then too.

And /a/ is self moderated enough that some things that /a/ thinks needs to be fixed pretty much fixes itself.

>>147367367
>I hate our avatarfags, why don't they go to your board instead
that´s advocating against crossboarding as far as I know. Its good for us, that´s what I mean

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>>147367375
y'know, you only need a fresh air and some sunlight sometimes. Better yet, do pic related

>>147367308
Don't post irrelevant shit here and type like a fuckwit /pol/ack or /b/tard and it's fine.
Crossboard all you want, just isolate your behaviour so you aren't shitting up everywhere else.

>>147367390
Newfags are rampant and don't know when to fuck off.

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Can we have manga board now?

>>147367173
"main" boards
>05-07 /b/ /a/
>07-09 /a/ /v/
>09-12 /fit/ /v/ /a/
>12-14 /v/ /a/
>14+ just /a/
Fuck every other board other than /a/ at this point.

>>147367316
>check those replies
People who post usually on /v/ and crossboard to /a/ are the lowest of cancer, they shitpost both /a/ and /v/ and no one wants them in their board.

Just see >>147367416
>go outside

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Summary from last thread:

1. Improve consistency of guidelines from board to board. No recommendations are allowed on /a/, but recommendations are fine on /k/. What is going on here?

2. Mods should stop abusing short bans and should take ban appeals more seriously instead of blanket denying/blocking all appeals with no transparency.

3. Bring back ability to delete own OP on all boards.

4. Bring back ability to bump own threads.

5. Bring back visible sage.

6. Bring back ability to announce reports and sages.

7. Mods should stop micro-managing conversations by deleting short shitposts that no one cares about anyway. You're not helping and no one asked you to do this.

8. Bring back a /z/ board where people can go if they are banned for infractions other than CP and post with no rules or post-timers.

9. Bring back /l/ where we can post lewd loli images. Trying to make /l/ threads work on /b/ is like being marooned on a desert island. Spam and non-enthusiasts filling the thread make for a bad environment, and the speed that /b/ moves means that threads are short-lived and tend to have a low number of unique IPs, even if you bump them slowly.

>>147367422
You can discuss manga here too, if you haven't noticed yet

>>147367422
Hopefully never.

>>147367355

Mark my fucking words.

>>147367353
Because by that time moot was fucking losing it and got sick of all the dumb shit. /vg/ was literally an attempt to appease the cancerous idiots instead of dealing with the problem so that he didn't have to do anything. This was clearly a mistake and he outright fucking realized that. He even gave a speech for generals in his leaving speech.

Generals are /literally/ not something belongs on chans or functions here. The cancer they cultivate is a direct cause of the concept of themselves, not because they have idiots. You can sit there banning the fuck tards in them all day long, it will never change them or make them better. You can't make something that exist just to stagnate to not stagnate.

If people want to generalcancer, add back the text boards and fuck back off to there.

>>147367435
>5. Bring back visible sage.
Better to make all threads sage by default, and make them bumpable only with age.

>>147367447
You could discuss anime on /b/ why'd you need /a/?

>>147367435
DELET
GENERALS

Fuck off mod, you're so fucking obvious since you just ignore shit you can't be bothered to deal with. Generals are literally cancer and have only ever contributed to the degradation of quality all over /a/. And if you degenerates actually believe these newshits stay in their "containment" threads, you're obviously from /v/ and have never stepped outside those threads yourselves.

>>147367435
Oh look, it's the same giant faggot who also posted the "important posts" in /qa/. Just ernd yourself, retard.

>>147367431
>all edgy posters came from /v/

This isnt Gamergoy era anymore, redditor. Stop terraforming the site like some hugbox

>>147367123
It's just crossboarders ans shitposters making these.

Generals should only be allowed when there's new content to discuss. But the only realistic way of enforcing this is self moderation.
It works well for tanoshii threads.

>>147367435
>6. Bring back ability to announce reports and sages.
this is literally a public downvote, no
>7. Mods should stop micro-managing conversations by deleting short shitposts that no one cares about anyway.
and leave up every "xD" shitpost? no
>9. Bring back /l/
there are so many fucking porn boards

I don't hate generals per se, but I'm concerned by the ever-growing amount of generals taking up space on the board. Constant generals for franchises with no new anime/manga are unnecessary and it just takes another obsessive fanbase to have another general take root here. Those kinds of generals end up as chat rooms more than anything which really shouldn't be allowed. Even 24/7 generals for monthly manga like SnK or Hero Academia are pointless as people eventually run out of relevant things to discuss halfway through the month.

tl;dr Why must there be constant threads for shit that aren't regularly receiving new content?

>>147367470
>>147367435

>>147367435
It's so obvious that you're the OP and also the mod. Seriously fuck off.

>>147367435
10. Mods need to stop deleting any thread that has even the slightest hint of being off-topic or loosely /a/-related. We used to have so much more original content creation on /a/, but now your thread has to be directly related to a specific anime or else it gets deleted after like 150 posts, which is in a way worse. If mods would just delete the threads they deem to be against the rules IMMEDIATELY, then at least we'd all be clear about the rules, but they try to have it both ways and let you have a thread for maybe 40 minutes to an hour before deleting it, which is super annoying.

Practically every other board on 4chan allows original content creation except /a/. Absolutely no reason for this.

>>147367480
Ironic shitposting is just shitposting.
>>147367516
>ikr

Lurk for 2 years before posting.

>>147367502
>public downvote
Epic justification for general ignorance you redditard.
Many people do not know what the fuck sage is, nor is it a downvote you asshat.

>>147367435
>2. Mods should stop abusing short bans and should take ban appeals more seriously instead of blanket denying/blocking all appeals with no transparency.
Shitposters will ban evade all they want, it's been proved for years now.

4. Bring back ability to bump own threads.
This is just shitposting fuel for the people who still use sage.

7. Mods should stop micro-managing conversations by deleting short shitposts that no one cares about anyway. You're not helping and no one asked you to do this.
Shitposting is fucking shitposting, but yeah if you have a shitposting thread delete that first and then return to your micro management.

9. Bring back /l/ where we can post lewd loli images.
Just don't, loli is great on /a/ as is is since you discuss that shit with /a/, creating /l/ would mean fucking /b/ 2.0

>>147367503
>tl;dr Why must there be constant threads for shit that aren't regularly receiving new content?

Because people want to discuss them, even if it's pointless garbage like "I want to fuck X".

Let's play spot the newfag: >>147367502

>>147367534
>Many people do not know what the fuck sage is
Who you fucking newfag? Who doesn't know what sage does other than you cancerous /r/anime posters that don't belong here anyway?

>>147367526
>except /a/
And /jp/.

>>147367516
>file deleted
>>147367532
>tripfag
I'm here since 2005 kitto

>>147367403
I have to agree with this, /a/ isn't so bad. I'm just concerned about generals eventually being too widespread and taking up too much of the board.

>>147367544
>discuss

Have you even been in generals? It's just namefaggotry and blogshit. It's fucking disgusting I want to throw up.

>>147367503
How much space they end up taking anyways? When the board moves slowly, it takes for up to two hours for a thread to get archived, and at peak hours it's as short as 30 minutes. Generals don't take any realistically significant amount of space, and otherwise you can always have the thread you want to keep alive bumped or something.

>>147367532
I propose we get rid of this guy.
For? Against?

>>147367493
>This isnt Gamergoy era anymore, redditor.
Get back to /v/ already, you are embarrassing yourself.

>>147367004
First off faggots we need to stop making shetpost generals and dumbass posts that are just irrelevant shetposting that kill quality threads.

Second are the image limits going to get increased so there's no continual threads?

Third, what kinds of generals are other anons whining about? There's threads that have discussions going on; mandatory generals need not apply.

>>147367558
Exactly, they don't. And they won't unless you educate them or make that shit visible.
Invisible sage has done absolutely nothing to improve anything.
This place gets more and more popular every day, and it being visible makes fags that don't lurk anymore atleast aware of its presence and function.

>>147367544
Okay, but people don't need an eternal general for that. Just make threads when they feel like it and let the discussion die out normally when people are done instead of having to bump slow-moving generals for no reason and have the threads filled with inane off-topic chatter.

>>147367435
>4. Bring back ability to bump own threads.
I swear I've bumped my own threads. Did I imagine it?

>>147367586
I've been in Yahari generals. They just repeat the same thing over and over. Maybe SnK and Jojo generals are worse, I dunno. I lost interest in those series a long time ago.

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Don't see anything wrong that occurred around a few months ago. The thread was being saged. I wanted to get an appeal but now is probably good.

>>147367594
You didn't know he's moot?

>>147367601
why not you should go back on that shithole? Only a faggot like you would know muh /v/ content. Heck I dont even play vidya game shit

>>147367631
Some boards let you bump your own thread immediately. Other boards make you wait for 30 minutes, which is enough time for your thread to 404 on a faster board like /a/.

>>147367544
>Because people want to discuss them
Generals are literally the opposite of wanting to discuss shit.

>>147367591
It's not so bad now, but I'm just concerned about things in the long-run where if there are too many obsessive fanbases insistent on keeping discussions alive for no reason. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but I sure as hell don't like the idea of /a/ having as many generals as /int/. And honestly, a lot of them turn into chatrooms for regulars.

>>147367641
so? He's a traitor selling this site to SJWs and is now fapping to Google

>>147367641
Is he?

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Remove Troid from the moderation team and bring back Kusanagi.

>>147367503
Why not just increase the number of threads each board can have but have the auto-sage limit remain the same? Hypothetically, if there were double the number of threads that each board can have, than generals would stay up twice as long for people to use. Could also implent a system where ff the number of posts per minute or whatever falls below a threshold it gets pruned automatically. You'd have to up the max number of images though, too.

>>147367079
>impossible
You can rangeban all mobile providers (which is already happening partly, can't post on 4chan anywhere via mobile providers)

>>147367624
All of that information is in the FAQ on the front page.

>>147367578
4_han didn't know exist until 2010

>>147367594
For. He's just an attention whoring tripfag.

>>147367079
It's not an impossible suggestion, just a retarded one.

>>147367628
Generals have momentum from the posts made beforehand. If you start a new thread, many times you need to samefag to simulate a discussion to get people to talk.

>>147367656
Oh it must have been slower time of day on /a/ then.

- decrease max posts per thread to 300, 500 really encourages generals
- 30 second delay between posts instead of the 60 (which were supposed to be temporary anyway)
- Show the old front page instead of the catalog to newfags so they don't confuse 4chan with a normal forum and have to actually lurk before understanding the site and posting
- reintroduce public sage, newfags don't know that such a function even exists

>>147367685
That only stops you from using the mobile IPs. They can still post from wifi. Besides, you can still post on those IPs with a 4chan pass.

>>147367694
>needing to samefag to simulate a discussion

Holy fuck you can't be serious. Maybe nobody replies to your threads because there's nothing to discuss and your thread is shit. What a great argument for generals.

>>147367052
That's a retarded idea.

>>147367686
Which doesn't get read by newfags.
moot justified making it invisible by saying it encouraged sage bombing.
Which is essentially saying 'self moderation is a bad thing'

>>147367681
Who's moot?

>>147367694
>Generals have momentum from the posts made beforehand. If you start a new thread, many times you need to samefag to simulate a discussion to get people to talk.
This. When moot took away the ability for OPs to bump their own threads, he killed a lot of new thread creation and cast a vote in favor of general threads. The variety of threads on /a/ has languished ever since.

>>147367708
>- reintroduce public sage, newfags don't know that such a function even exists
>>147367467

>>147367694
If you have to samefag to simulate discussion its probably because
a. your op is shit and didnt simulate anything most like you went what is your opinion on x, made some meme op thread or went x thread
b. no one has fucking anything at the moment to say because they already fucking discussed it and you're just an obsessive fag who just doesn't know how to move the fuck on after a thread has died

>>147367715
The biggest issue with mobile fags is they can instantly ban evade and can post all day.
Banning mobile IP ranges solves this.

>>147367644
>Only a faggot like you would know muh /v/ content.
I you had lurked "enough" then you would know from second mouth that /v/ is filled with e celeb discussion and other bullshit, now lurk more or get the fuck out.

>>147367687
hi hiro
or are you just drunk on saturday night

>>147367731
Fuck you. That's how 4chan has always worked since forever.

>>147367737
>Which doesn't get read by newfags
So put a sticky or banner on the top of every board that links to FAQ/Rules?

>>147367154
>Call it out, report off topic circlejerks etc.
And get banned.

>>147367123
Not just any general, the worst of them all. Fuck Metathreads. Fuck hero.

>>147367743
>>147367467
How do you imagine such a plan could be implemented without being a complete disaster? Maybe we should also require people to create an account prior to posting while we're at it. That's how bad your idea is.

>>147367766
That works so well in /g/
not

>>147367778
there was nothing wrong with a weekly metathread. now it is a 24/7 anti-general general

Gorespammer please save us from these shitty threads being spamed.

>>147367731
niqqa you stupid. did you come here after "no of posters in a thread" was introduced?

>>147367761
No, in fact it hasn't. If you don't have anything to discuss don't make a fucking thread in the first place. What the fuck is even the point of a thread that doesn't have a topic? Jesus christ.

>>147367686
Who reads the FAQ page? No one, it's irrelevant and garbage. It was only recently when someone brought it up that I remembered it exist and read it. Guess what, it's shit.

>>147367747
Not even true. Go on /tv/, make a well-written thread and watch it 404 in forty minutes. Then make a clickbait meme thread and watch it easily hit a hundred posts. Hell, even on /a/ if you make a thread on old anime it'll 404 with barely any posts in it.

>>147367793
If people break the rules you report them and you tell newshits to lurk more. Would you rather they get downboated?
>>147367810
The FAQ isn't shit, it just needs to be more easily apparent that it exists.

>>147367806
yes in fact it has. even moot admitted that before his retirement

>>147367805
>he talks to himself to encourage others to talk to him

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>147367786
You're baiting, right?

>>147367731
Heh, I samefag most threads I make and end up with 100+ replies.

>>147367764
We get it. You've only been posting on 4chan since this summer.

>>147367739
I think he founded twitter or something.

>>147367747
If the only kinds of threads you think /a/ is capable of sustaining are the same subset of weekly threads that we have been inundated with for the past 4 years, then you very badly underestimate this website.

>get rid of /b/

>assimilate /a/ to /jp/

>make /pol/ and /his/ a single board

>now all thread size can increase by saving up 4Chan cloud server space

>>147367824
>"no good threads get posts only bait threads"
You need to lurk more and find out how to post is the problem here.

>>147367731
>>147367764
>>147367766
>>147367806
>>147367843

>being THIS new

>>147367806
Wrong, newfag. The OP not being able to bump their own threads, and having visible numbers of IPs killed a huge number of good threads on 4chan when implemented.

>>147367753
>lurked enough
>on 4chan

god redditors are complete cancer. You need to fuck off

>>147367824
>if you make a thread on old anime it'll 404 with barely any posts in it

Yes see this is the problem. This isn't a thread that /a/ finds interesting to talk about, it has nothing to do with sparking discussions. If the OP was an interesting enough post, people would reply. Also /tv/ is literally a meme board so I don't know what you expected.

>>147367843
>he posts in shitty generals all day everyday and is proud of how he is leading his life

>>147367875
>lurked enough
Who are you quoting?

Most newfags sort the catalog by "thread creation date", so sage is basically useless anyway

>>147367851
>get rid of /b/
Better yet, merge /b/ with /soc/, delete the board and rage ban everyone who once posted in them.

>>147367835
Mods and jannies are doing fuckall nowadays.
Too little too late every fucking time.
I'd rather everyone know what sage is and let shit threads 404

>>147367845
>make all new threads bump to the bottom of the board until they "age" some unspecified amount of time
>what could possibly go wrong??

When people look for an active thread, they look at the top of the catalog, or on page 0 if they are retarded enough to use paged view. They don't look on page 5 or halfway down the catalog for new threads. Most people assume that a thread halfway down the catalog without any replies is a shit topic and don't even bother giving it the time of day.

Don't delete onee-san threads I need those

>>147367123
You can use enemy's weapon to kill your enemy.

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>>147367004
Every thread that starts with this topic should have this picture as the original post to represents meta thread of time of old.

>the mod platoon is out in full force to shit on posters while anonymous to justify their shitty moderating practices

>>147367824
Guess what, maybe just nobody wants to talk about old shit that has been discussed to death already

>>147367875
>muh reddit boogeyman

Hiro, please make reddit trigger an auto-ban again.

So about that manga board?

>Public Sage
>OP bans are all public
>Hour long cooldown on posting on /a/ if someone posts on another board
>Ban all aussies out of principal
>AT THE VERY LEAST pruning generals
>Delete /q/
>Either ban all LN's or none of them this OVERLORD IS FINE BUT HORIZON IS NOT bullshit
>Stop being so retarded with nudity thread deletions, 4chan is not SFW period. Porn in general would help scare off faggots
>Make /u/ and /y/ fuck off
>Ban the shit out of /c/ and /e/ dumps

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>>147367173

>>147367892
it is very well obvious who he is quoting. learn how to use /jp/ in-jokes you get third hand properly

>>147367943
Says the literal reddit apologist newfag.

>>147367968
You're posting in it.

>>147367910
>Most newfags sort the catalog by "thread creation date"
What. I don't think very many people do that at all.

>>147367927
I scroll down the catalog

>>147367824
Please pick an example that isn't the bane shitposting board and I might take you seriously. Old anime threads occur all the time and get lots of posts in them at a normal rate and sometimes even hit bump limit. It just doesn't fucking happen constantly. No one wants to talk about the same thing constantly but actual autists. Threads thrive if it interests people and dies if it doesn't. If it dies, no one who cared was probably one, try again later. A lot of the time, the OP itself will determine if people click on the thread.

If we were in an older 4chan, I could even bring up the front page argument because threads don't have fucking topics, only a conversation. So, people would join random threads for the current conversation. Sadly, the introduction of the convince features and the catalog prevent me from making that one.

>>147367943
>le newfaggeng xddd
>this post wont get banned
>this thread will still be up some more time
>mods will still be fags

>>147367910
how would you even know this? they sort by bump order because it is the default

>>147367943
How fucking new are you
Go back to your normalfag board and post dumb frogs, retard

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Can mods remove the ban evading pedo tripfag? He shits up a lot of threads.

>>147367943
Stop trying to fit in. Nobody is buying it.

>>147367927
>make all new threads bump to the bottom of the board until they "age" some unspecified amount of time
You don't sage an OP thread, do you? Of course freshly made threads will still go on page 1.

Besides anyone who's been here long enough should know to age threads if this gets implemented.

>>147367943
Mods this retard is just shitposting at this point.

>>147367985
No, separate one.

>>147367961
>redditors get called out for being fucking retards
>"let's ban the ones who tell us that we're retards"

>>147367979
I did it in the literal sense since I wrote "enough" with quotation marks, stop thinking everything is a fucking meme.

>>147367940
Shut up moot

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>>147367982
no need to turn the blame here, plebbit

>>147367004
Do we really want to change shit?

>>147368056
I just want Love Live threads gone

>>147367968
actually we do need this. 4chan should have at-least one good big board
>>147368043
i knew you would say this. sorry

>>147367927
>make all new threads bump to the bottom of the board until they "age" some unspecified amount of time
This is the stupidest fucking idea I've ever heard. The current system is fine and people need to learn the golden rule of "sage before replying to garbage threads".

All of this should just be in a fucking sticky. There is no reason the /wsr/ sticky even got removed.

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Left or right?

>>147367968
Just fuck off, board splits are fucking retarded.

This board is fine as it is.

>>147356595
Why are threads like this allowed to exist?

>>147367983
bye

>>147368056
Nothing should be changed. Don't try to fix something that already fix.

>>147368056
no
Some generals are cancer but not yet a problem to the rest of the board

>>147368088
these threads should be autobanned

>>147368088
Kaguya any time, every time

Does anybody have any genuine criticisms that don't pertain to banning certain types of threads? I'm pretty sure Hiro is more interested in ways to improve the user experience for the most people, not to selectively alienate certain fanbases.

>>147367684
I don't think 4chan should bend over to accommodate generals, there are enough pages as it stands. It's the sort of discourse in constant generals that is more of a concern. They really shouldn't be used as a chat room.

>>147367694
The momentum doesn't count when so many generals are carried by off-topic, idle chatter in lieu of a lack of new content. If one wishes to resume discourse from an old general thread, one can simple bring up the topic again or link to an archived post. It's not very hard to do so.

As one who makes threads on occasion I understand it can be difficult to stimulate discussion at times, but think of it as in incentive to craft an attractive opening post(i.e. putting effort) and have some patience for people to notice it.

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>>147368092
Yeah let's go back to just /b/.
/a/ has fear of change and stockholm syndrome.

>>147368075
>4chan should have at-least one good big board
Literally /a/, Just get your ass working on calling out the shitposting.

>>147367161
Second one yesterday was deleted>>147367435
>3. Bring back ability to delete own OP on all boards.
>4. Bring back ability to bump own threads.
>5. Bring back visible sage.
>6. Bring back ability to announce reports and sages.
FUCK NO

>>147368084
Don't blame me. I just paraphrased the other idiot's idea.

>>147368099
Because not every thread here has to be about "currently airing anime X", if you have not yet noticed
This is not MAL or reddit, for fucks sake

>>147368084
Only newfags who don't know to age threads believe this.

>>147368099
Mods are dumb like that. Just slap an /a/ image to your blogging thread and you're good to go.

Start doing something new like not allowing threads like these on /a/ since its a violation of the rules you retards want to impose. Keep this shit on /qa/

>>147368056
No, maybe make mods less fags or something but no.

>>147368056
Not really. General threads just need some disciplining and spring cleaning.

>>147368146
>FUCK NO
FUCK YES. There is absolutely no way you can justify any of these policies without invoking moot wanting to experiment with something new. Well, the experiment is over and it has gone horribly wrong. The website has a runaway shitposting problem and all of these policies contribute to it. To make matters worse, moot left us and the new guy doesn't have the full story about why the changes were made.

>>147368084
>"sage before replying to garbage threads"
Just use the auto sage thing on 4chanX and don't use sage on threads you like.

>>147368151
just bring back noko

>>147368140
Not just does your argument make zero fucking sense, /b/ is the founding board. The MAJORITY of 4chan culture, /a/ included, starts from there. The very sentiment and interest in having the chans play as chans and not having generals here stems from that very culture, idiot.

/b/ isn't some retarded big evil bad we need to avoid, fucktard.

Disallow namefaging

>>147368149
Nice strawman anon.
/a/ definitely needs garbage fetish threads up at all times.

Either all LN's should be allowed, a separate board for LN's/Manga should be introduced, or we should get a new board for LNs/WNs.

>>147368164
>Keep this shit on /qa/
Then you'd create an even greater shitstorm when the normalfags there try to change /a/ while we don't even know about it

Can we have kana captcha yet Hiro?

>>147368099
Because you're an idiot and there is nothing wrong with the thread.

>>147368221
This.

>>147368202
You said board splits are retarded so let's just go back to having /b/. I mean /a/ was a board split.

>>147367435
>3. Bring back ability to delete own OP on all boards.
Also eliminate the "this post is too old to delete" feature that kicks in after like 30 minutes. That's so fucking annoying. No reason for a post to be too old to be deleted.

>>147368125
Make mods to stick their asses to their main boards, mods being global is fucking stupid specially for /a/.

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>>147368056
Better enforce current rules and standards.
Anyone who wants to change shit is just some retarded faggot that doesn't like how people always interact.

>>147368200
Just remove the native extension completely

Generals are pure cancer. The first time is ok, even the second and the third but then it simply becomes in a stupid memefest.
No matter how much you like something, it becomes boring and tiring after a while.
Either ban them or create a new board i don't care just do something

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>>147368149
>>147368226
>defending tranny fetish thread because it has an anime OP pic

>>147368140
>/a/ has fear of change and stockholm syndrome.
IIRC /a/'s the board that's been split the most.

>>147368237
Again, you're an idiot. /a/ isn't a fucking board split, it was a board made to house a certain type of posting and give it more freedom. I can still go to /b/ now and post about anime and manga. It wasn't a board split. You don't even know what a fucking board split is apparently.

>>147368221
not an argument. This thread is a blatant violation of the rules imposed on this board.

>>147368237
fuck off back to /b/

>>147367052
This.

>>147368264
>>147368275

We occasionally have "tranny" threads like that
You're probably too new to know tough

>>147368272
>/a/ isn't a fucking board split
>it was a board made to house a certain type of posting and give it more freedom.
This sounds like a manga board.

>>147367751
Not only mobile fags
Here where I live, static ip's are expensive as fuck, so the majority of people uses dynamic ones (i.e. reset your router BOOM new IP)

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>>147368125
This, asking for a laundry list of wide systemic or rule changes is unrealistic to say the least.

You guys should know you're wasting your breath playing armchair admin. Are there things you guys want that can actually be accomplished? I've been around here a long, long fucking time and I think a few minor tweaks to what counts as global 6 or 3 material would improve a lot of the board including generals by proxy.

For example, can we all agree studio wars threads are pretty shitty? Howabout ruining threads for shows with nonstop bickering over shipping crap or het vs yuri back-and-forth? Do people think stopping a handful of generals of established series (and causing a bunch of shitty drama and backlash over that) will prevent this more widespread mold from taking root in new series each season? It does not seem like it.

Shitty generals are a foregone conclusion; but what would stopping them do to prevent threads from new shows from going bad? Are you using the Jojo, SnK and Monmusu threads all the time or just want them gone because they're an eyesore, while you go back to your re:zero thread that is completely fucking ruined by a bunch of faggot trolls and pretend it's a better situation since at least this is a new series?

To me it's more important to have seasonal show threads not be dictated and ruined by a few drama queens / easy baiting trolls than it is to worry about series you don't even care about. Seriously get your priorities straight.

Issue C&Ds to chronic ban evaders, and report them to law enforcement or bring them to court for disrupting 4chan's services if they do not comply. 4chan is an LLC, so they are abusing a company's services.

Not saying that you should do this to every evader, just persistent ones like Barneyfag, Ruggarell, ACK, etc. It's an extreme measure but it would work.

>>147368135
>I don't think 4chan should bend over to accommodate generals, there are enough pages as it stands. It's the sort of discourse in constant generals that is more of a concern. They really shouldn't be used as a chat room.
If this was back in the early 2000s I'd agree with you, but nowadays we can have a thousand and one tabs open on a piece of shit Chromebook that its not really that big of a deal to be a part of fifteen different conversations at one time.

Make a manga board

>>147368264
First off gender bender isn't trannyshit and second it is no different to the threads /a/ has always had. Fuck off with your strict rulefagging bullshit.

>>147368164
>Keep this shit on /qa/
/qa/ is the worst board that ever existed. /qa/ should never be existed.

>>147368275
How is that not an argument, retard?

If you add more rules it's just going to get worse. Except for banning generals. Fuck generals.

>>147368149
>>147368226
If they were actually just discussing porn and fetishes then it should be in the panda thread.
If they were discussing actual characters then it wouldn't have that as the OP.

>>147368240
This. Some fucktard from another board shouldn't have any power in unfamiliar territory.

>>147368293
still not an argument. Calling me a newfag is also not an argument my newfriend

>>147368293
>threads have existed so they must forever exist
Why are so many /a/non literally incapable of change? If some dude posted his daily poop here for a year you guys would call it board culture and never want it deleted.

>>147368294
No, a manga board is cancer. Anime and Manga belong together on the same board and are inseparable. You CAN NOT have one without the other.

>>147368221
/qa/ is a fucking containment board, if anything Hiro should just make an sticky in there saying that they are wasting their time or something.

>>147367968
Splitting the board has never done any good. Manga are frequently discussed on /a/ when a new chapter comes out. If you're not around for that time the problem is not with the board but with you not being present at the right time.

>>147368338
>You CAN NOT have one without the other.
>this is what anime fags believe
Manga does just fine without anime.

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>>147368240
I agree. The ability to moderate /a/ requires a lot of extremely specialized knowledge to not issue bans erroneously. If pic related didn't have a filename of "To Love Ru," then mods wouldn't recognize where it's from, have any idea that it's from an anime, and would think that it's from a hentai and probably ban me, even though Hiro has made it clear that this image is 100% allowed on /a/ if spoilered. Even saying all this, explaining exactly why it's OK to post it, there is a 50/50 chance that I'll get banned anyway just because mods fucking hate us.

Just get rid of the whole SFW guidelines for /a/. Nobody should browse this website from work anyway.

>>147367086
Tenth? That's how many it has been? Jesus.

Ban fetish threads (ass/tits/feet/navels/etc). There is no reason for /a/ to be full of imagedump threads where people occasionally blog about how hard their dick is or whatever.

Ban everything that I don't like.

Allow LN discussion. They're too mainstream for /jp/, and splitting up boards even more is a mistake, since a LN board by itself will die.

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>>147368299
ITT: How to drive 95% of board traffic to other chans.

>>147368386
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/subject/Rules%20and%20Moderation/type/op/

We are all newfags, don't try to pretend that you are not. Fucking newfags

>>147368369
>Just get rid of the whole SFW guidelines for /a/. Nobody should browse this website from work anyway.

This

remove kancolle general
>no anime discussion
>avatarfaggin
>image dump

>>147368335
>incapable of change?
Because people don't want to change the core basis of what they have done for years and enjoyed? Why should a community stop doing what they have always done AND enjoyed to cater to a fucking minority of new users who just want the site to change to cater to them? Either you adapt or fuck off.

Ban fatefags

All we need is for spoonfeeding and recommendations to be banned.

>>147368296
I'm guilty of enjoying studio wars threads, but I try to steer the discussion there towards anime staff as it is possible to extract interesting discourse about directors and animators.

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>>147368387
But keep armpit threads.

>>147368299
thats too costly for a site that barely generates money

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I want old /g/ back, as /gu/ or something of the like.

Please?

>>147368196
Why the fuck do you want visible sage? For more shitposting?
Do you want shitposters do delete thread for example of new episodes of currently airing anime few minutes after they made them?

>>147368322
More like it should be on /h/. Porn threads have the lowest entry bars and the strongest gravity and just attract retarded source beggars and other shitposters.

>>147368417
to add to this Fucking Neptunia generals

anime ended ages ago and it's all waifufaging

>>147367258
This, look at /sp/. It used to be great but now its just slow, isolated eternal generals filled with tripfaggots.

>>147368441
What ever happened to tech/loli/gy? I thought we had a great thing going on for a while there.

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>>147368296
Re:Zero has a new episode each week until well tomorrow. They have something to discuss. In another 2 weeks you should prune the fuck out of ReZero threads.

What the fuck is the Overlord or Mon Musume general discussing? It certainly isn't the series that the threads about. They talk about shitty browser games and ERP. Generals are fucking killing the ability to discuss the series; take Mon Musume, you can't discuss new chapters since faggots will spam their FIRST FOR X, THREAD DANK MEME XD if you post in their general and the same faggots will come to your thread if you make one of your own.

JoJo general has an ongoing anime so it gets a pass but god damn its fucking cancer and 90% of the people should be banned and will just continue long after the anime stops anyway.

>>147368218
Then it would be just slow as fuck board with shitload of generals

>>147368425
>what they have always done AND enjoyed
Because it wasn't always like this.
You have to be most deluded /a/non to think board hasn't changed.

>>147368425
This one right here.

>>147367081
Agree with you. It's really annoying when there's a stream of something

>>147368417
>>147368453
Remove Arc-V
>Yaoi posting
>Card game/Vidya discussion

>>147368444
>Why the fuck do you want visible sage? For more shitposting?
Educate newfags why their threads are 404ing. It used to work.
>Do you want shitposters do delete thread for example of new episodes of currently airing anime few minutes after they made them?
This was very rare even when people could still do it. Yes, it occasionally happened. So fucking what? Someone will just make a new thread. 4chan is all about ephemeral discussions. I think the native archive should be deleted and it should go back to being like a chatroom where there is no permanent log of threads.

>>147368417
>>147368453
Generals should be b& in general. They're stale cesspits of circlejerking.

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>>147368335
>/a/ must change!!!

>>147368415
I disagree, /a/ as a NSFW board would be just porn dumps. High quality porn dumps for the most patrician of people, but porn dumps.

>>147368397
There is LN thread from time to time, you just don't have to put LN in the OP and no one realizes you aren't talking about a LN.

>>147368464
The board has change but a lot of the core things people have done since the very inception of the site is still here. Such as loosely related offtopic shit. Most of the best threads on this site were "offtopic" and was offtopic posts. That doesn't mean /a/ should just become /b/ offtopic, it means there is no reason to delete all offtopic threads and posts. It's just mindless rulefagging that 4chan has never ever followed.

>>147368513
>2013
What's your point by continually posting this?

Bring back Snacks

>>147368526
shhhh, don't tell anyone

>>147368243
I agree.

>>147368502
>I think the native archive should be deleted and it should go back to being like a chatroom where there is no permanent log of threads.
Fuck off moot, archives are great for several things that had been already proved.

>>147367004
Honestly, I think things are more or less fine the way they are - the one exception is generals threads. It's just the same shit over and over again and it makes me unhappy to see all these threads that I've filtered because most, if not all, of the threads I've filtered are active.

>>147368579
Fuck off idiot. Archives are literally one of the worst things to ever come to this site. They are great for nothing and have only ever been good for less than 1% of threads/posts. They were a mistake and the only thing they have proven is encourage garbage like generals.

>>147368555
Pretty sure he hated loli, why would anyone want him here?

>>147368585
And then permaban anyone who avatarfags, this is fucking genius.

>>147368585
and signatures while we're at it.

>>147368453
neptunia should all just be on /vg/

>>147367004
hiragana/katakana captcha for /a/

Wordfilter "cuck", but have the replacement term be something random every single time so that people can't make a meme out of it.

>>147368610
How can an archive encourage a general? Also you clearly don't have an /a/ threads backlog.

>>147368579
Archives are what killed the old 4chan and made it into like any other forum.

>>147368453
And if anyone in the threads mentions /vg/, they got upset and use the "but there's an anime adaptation" argument, which maybe 4 posts in a 300 reply thread discuss.

Mods should just make it clear that having an anime adaptation doesn't excuse having a circlejerk for a video game series.

>>147368597
I can understand and tolerate generals for currently airing shows, but why generals for shows that have ended still run non-stop is beyond me.

Ban all generals. They completely destroy the discussion and only create cancerous mini-communities that attract faggots who don't want anything to do with the rest of the board and turn the threads into some kind of mini-tumblr circlejerks.

A general is the worst thing that can happen to a series and only people who are the problem want them. They are the very vocal minority, fuck them.

Remove inline catalog
Bring back neet.

>>147368640
>How can an archive encourage a general?
The retention of data and making 4chan no different to traditional forums. It removes that main feature of chans that is ephemeral and short lived posting.

Since people doesn't know how to hide threads, or lack the capability to ignore things that are not of their liking, why not give every genre their own board? Like a battle shonen board, an harem board, or maybe even a loli board... but then, people would complain about oppai lolis, then we would need to make another board for oppai lolis..., damn, maybe I didn't thought this right.

>>147368674
Use neet if you prefer it. What are you even complaining about?

>>147368625
You don't seem to understand that 4chan has no control over what appears in your captcha.

>>147368639
>random wordfilters
It sounds funnier when you are sipping mountain dews in your mom's basement watching videos of pewdiepie play video games. To the rest of us, that shit is just annoying.

>>147368686
no

I wonder what'd happen if we got a board for Light Novels, Web Novels, and western Web Serials.

WN's and WS's are similar in format, and if LN's aren't going to be allowed on /a/, they could go with the WN's and WS's.

The disparity between audiences might cause friction, but they don't really fit on any other board and it could be a solution that keeps most people happy.

>>147368625
This.

>>147368672
I want /qa/ to go.

>>147368686
>Since people doesn't know how to hide threads, or lack the capability to ignore things that are not of their liking
Just bring back visible sage and de-criminalize announcing sages and announcing reports. The shittiest threads will disappear overnight.

Allow light novels on /a/! Too few people and too many trolls on /jp/ to do a proper discussion. /lit/ just outright denies existence of light novels, /a/ is the only board which have enough people who like light novels and willing to do discussion.

>>147368686
I would love having a million tiny boards instead of a few big boards. I know I'm in the minority when I say that, though.

>>147368702
It would be a cancerous dead general board, simple as that

>>147368726
Light novels belong on /jp/.

>>147368729
Forum balkanization is the one sure way to kill discussion in an otherwise functional community.

>>147368700
The point isn't to be funny. The point is to keep people from using this retarded buzzword, and to prevent them from making a meme out of the replacement term.

>>147368726
Make manga/LN board.

>>147368655
>old 4chan
We are talking about /a/, post being permanent aren0t what defines /a/.

>>147368747
Fuck off nipplemod

>>147367079
>>147367693
You can tell newfags are this retarded.

It is incredibly easy to ban mobile browsers from your websites.

This scared of not being able to ban evade with your cell phone anymore?

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>>147368747
So does /djt/.

>>147368750
Word filters are meant to be funny, not moderation. They don't even work as moderation.

>>147368243
This, the influx of cancer making low quality posts is disgusting.
Quit trying to make /a/ into whatever board you came from.
Either lurk or leave.
/a/ is not /pol/
/a/ is not /v/
/a/ is not /b/
/a/ is not /tv/

>>147367004
It's time threads should be auto-stickied. Hetfags get pandered to in every other thread, discussion about hot anime and manga boys deserves to have attention too without being pushed off the catalog by waifus, harems, lolis, etc. just because straights feel threatened.

>>147368803
It will kill that too.

>>147367004
Ban Trapfags from /a/.

They are nothing but cancerous crossboarders from /lgbt/ and /soc/ and all they wanna do is perform erotic roleplaying with each other while attentionwhoring and blogging about their real life sexual activities and relationships.

They even post 3DPD pictures of real life traps on /a/.

>>147368747
visual novels maybe, not light novels which are close to manga.

>>147368803
>There's no discussion on /a/ to kill.

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>>147368808
Don't even say that as an example.

>>147368757
This.

>>147368686
Because that's called "reddit" and "cancerchan"

>>147368804
1/10 try again

>>147368748
>/a/
>discussion
>functional community
Only good threads are the small ones.

>>147368815
That's the idea.

>>147368799
>This, the influx of cancer making low quality posts is disgusting.
I agree with this. Ban people who post with broken grammar/spelling, ban people who can't capitalise their sentences properly, and ban people who talk like 5 year olds.

>>147367004
boards like /v/ need reform and rule changes because they're cesspools of shit-posting and memes.

/a/ isn't perfect, but it's one of the most civilised boards on this site, there's nothing I'd even consider changing.

someone convince me there's something actually wrong with /a/ because the one or two generals isn't really an issue Imo.

>>147368803
Go back to posting epic frogs on your cancerous board, retard

>>147368880
Nobody thinks they stink.

I love you /a/. You're here to shit on me when my own family shit on me like the the blight. Never change.

I wish they would remove all the ero garbage sadpanda threads etc and put them back on /e/, /h/ etc like, why does it have to shit up /a/, it wasn't like this at all before.

>>147368672
The removing of generals is something that should be done chan-wide (besides /vg/ for obvious reasons)

It turns /g/ into personal tech review, /sp/ into homolust, and literally caused the existence of /mlp/ and /soc/

>>147368457
The general completely ruined Jojo threads. Jojo threads used to be very nice and the posters were regarded as good, but nowadays it's filled with tumblrites and /vg/ rejects.

Ban JoJo generals and the people who sperg about the pastebin or forgetting some bullshit "thread customs". Ban everyone who says /jojo/. Allow threads only when a new episode is out, for a few days or so and strictly for the discussion of the new episode instead of the usual "lel gay priest am I right".

The generalfags are a loud minority and got here only in the recent years.

Free quests. Go back to 2012's policies of allowing them on all boards.

Fire the faggot who made /qst/.

>>147368880
>/a/ isn't perfect, but it's one of the most civilised boards on this site
/out/ is far more civilized, even though it's about getting away from civilization.

>>147368880
>but it's one of the most civilised boards on this site
You probably just browse shit fast boards. Or you don't and assume.

>>147368976
It's interesting how /out/ manages to be a pretty decent board despite how much people have been redirected to over the years.

>>147368976
It's a slow board, and I assume not many underageb&s would post there.

There is a certain power tripping janitor specifically on this board, the one that times out posts that disagree with him or simply posts he doesn't like

>>147368725
If anything /qa/fags are the ones in favor of generals.

Ban thing I don't like. I don't like it when people are posting things I don't like as they please. It pisses me off.

>>147368725
>visible sage
This. This so much.

>>147368936
>it wasn't like this at all before.
Check the archives, I can find e(x)hentai threads on /a/ even fro 2008

>>147368674

>use 4chanx
>continue to have catalog

I don't see what this changes. Do people still use default 4chan?

>>147368785
>mobile browsers

Spot the idiot. Anyone worth their salt uses an app or an add-on to get around that stuff.

>>147368880
>someone convince me there's something actually wrong with /a/
Take a break from /a/ a week or two and come back.

You will notice it's like /v/ just couple years back. Even the posting mannerisms of a lot users are the same. You gotta call out when your shits stinking and not keep decorating it with glitter to make it seem nicer than it is.

>>147369093
Most phoneposters aren't worth their salt.

Ban generals, ban saucefags, ban ERPers, ban waifufaggotry.

>>147369086
they were never 24/7, they would pop up randomly as generic eromanga & dump threads. but look at it now, its just /h/ discussion on a sfw board.