Neon Genesis Evangelion

>>147052126
Yes

>>147052126
Weird, I just finished it today and wrote the ending off as 14 year-olds being angsty and the Angels being defeated.

>>147052126
"Get out into the Big Blue Room, you disgusting hikki otaku!"

>>147052179
Yes?

>>147052437
Yes.

>>147052351
Watched the season for the first time ever today, Asuka is the only way.

>>147052450
Welp, that was the quickest reply I've seen

>>147052321
I feel that that's literally the whole plot; Angsty teens finding meaning or in the least trying to.

>>147052126
EoE movie aside, if you can't even attempt to construct an interpretation for the events of episodes 25 and 26 of NGE, then you've legitimized the usage of the "(n)deep(n+2)u" meme unironically.

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>>147052126
Anno run out of budget, for slightly more adequate ending watch End of Evangelion, it's so beautifully pretentious it would be a shame if you missed it
Also posting the only true best girl in Eva

>>147052560
Must I watch EoE in order to attain a fully comprehensive conclusion? I feel as if I am missing something extremely important, especially in Ep.25

>>147052763
Yes. The last two episodes take place in Shinji's mind, EoE shows what's actually happening event wise.

>>147052126
Congratulations!

>>147052691
Asuka is the embodiment of the psychopathic german bitch and it's a shame that she survived

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>>147052763
Check Gendo's lines in episode 25. He's telling you what's going on.

>>147053018
I cant recall Gendo saying much in Ep. 25. What did I miss? I don't remember that picture either.

>>147052940
thank you Father!

>>147052126
TV series ending is what's going on in Shinji's mind.
EoE is what is ACTUALLY happening.

>>147053424
I haven't watched EoE yet but does the end of the TV series signify the completion of the Human Instrumentality Project?

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>>147053368
That screen shot was taken in episode 25 at 10m 38s in (ADV DVDs)

Gendo's lines
No, It's not that everything returns to nothingness.
It's nothing but returning everything to the beginning.
Nothing but returning things to the mother which
has long since been lost.
All the minds become one mind, obtaining peace forever.
Nothing but that.

>>147053779
O thanks for the clarification. So I'm assuming that 25 outlines the Instrumentality project, whilst 26 shows the completion in perspective of Shinji's mind?

To put it simple:
Shinji went through shit. If you think about it, your father uses you for his selfish plans, the only girl (rei) who develop a strong bond with you is not human (well, she's a clon), your friend (or maybe something more, we don't know) turn to be an angel and you destroy it with your hands. And think in Toji who lost a leg and a hand. So you are traumatized for life but in the end, the BIG lesson of NGE is that although reality can be a bitch you can find happiness if you want it. It's not what happens in life is the way you react that defines you as a person. If you ask me, is a good ending with a great perspective of life. Now watch EOE and tell me what you can learn.

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>>147053975
Pretty much, yes.

>>147054035
Yes I figured. Perspective shapes reality and reality changes your perspective, vice versa.
>>147054040
Would you consider the project to be a good thing?

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>>147054355
There's a lot to interpretation between the conflicting accounts in the series and in EoE.

If you take the TV ending as Gendo's Good End (and EoE as a separate Shinji Bad End), then the TV version is a good thing, the the movie version, no.

>>147054511
Weird. How would it be a good end for Gendo (tv) and a bad one for Shinji(EoE)? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

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>>147054886
The TV series ends up with Gendo re-united with Yui in some astral paradise. The movie ends with Shinji and Asuka abandoned on some devastated beach.

>>147052763
Yes and no. You can understand eps 25 and 26 on their own just fine. They really are that simple. "Live your life and don't be afraid of getting hurt sometimes, you are allowed to try to be happy."

>>147052126
The director was a pretentious fuck who wanted to push the point that the plot and supporting characters were meaningless in the face of Shinji's character development from introverted beta faggot to socially awkward faggot. Read Sadamoto's manga if you want a more coherent experience.

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>>147052351
>and then they cried like little bitches when she smiled
True

Every human has their souls taken and turned into a vast ocean of LCL. It's hard to say exactly what this is, but it's kind of implied that everyone is content in this state and one can interact with the spirits of people they knew, ie old man Ikari wants his waifu back. But then Seele is going to be a sort of upper class/uber being within the LCL? Or at least they think so.

Because he started the whole thing/was friends with Rei/whatever, Shinji was able to turn down the 'offer' to become a part of instrumentality. This caused Unit 01 to stop powering the anti-AT field and then all the spirits go back to their bodies, and then everything is okay again? I think?

As to why he chokes out Asuka, it's up 2 U. I personally think it's because she said she'd rather die than be with him, and he didn't want none of that bitch's nonsense. It's the first affirmative action he takes in the entire damn series. Also he's probably been alone for years because LCL keeps you alive and ageless forever or something.

What you don't understand is Tv ending is what shinji is imagining during third impact as isrumentality is happening. EoE is shinji breaking out of instrumentality and deciding to restart it all as rebuild

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>>147052126
NGE is shit.

>>147055188

Those are shinji's projections and ideas of people, not their actual selves/souls. They tell you this in the episode.

They're both good ends for shinji. EoE is more subtle, but it's still a good end.

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>>147057914
Which bit of "All the minds become one mind" don't you get?

It may have all been in Shinji's head, but everybody else was holding a party there, and sharing their conceptions of each other.

>>147055188
I always took the movie ending along the lines that Shinji and Asuka were the first people to come out of the primordial ooze because they were the first to want to retain their individuality. This makes sense since they're easily the two most damaged characters in the series and are likely to not mesh as well with the other souls. I believe something was said in EoE along the lines of people being able to choose whether or not they should leave the ooze, and the fact that two people already left seems to hint that more were going to follow (since without EVERYBODY, there is no point in being apart of the goop).

>>147052126
shinji is fucked up.

>>147056570
I always took it as Asuka feeling both sympathy and disgust towards Shinji due to their brief time with a shared conscience. She also would have found out that Shinji sexually abused her while she was comatose, so even though she feels sorry for him and may even love him to some degree, she can't get over the fact that he jerked it while she wasn't awake.

>>147056570

I always thought he chokes her to confirm he's not in instrumentality. Since instrumentality is void of rejection, if he choked Asuka IRL then in his mind she'd reject him (like she does in his mind before he initiated instrumentality). But then instead of rejecting him, she caresses him because she finally understood him and why he didn't hold her due to the merging of souls. This shocks Shinji, and causes him to break down, both because he wasn't expecting it and because it was the first time in a long ass time (outside instrumentality) that someone showed genuine affection for him.

One could also see this as Asuka trying to confirm Shinji is real, or believing she's in instrumentality, and acting opposite to her usual nature towards him to gauge his reaction or to show him how she truly feels. When he breaks down, she realizes it is him and reverts to her typical attitude, and upon realizing this is grossed out that the real Shinji jacked off to her the way he did.

That's what I got from it at least. There may be a few logical leaps here or there, but that's my headcanon.

Are the people Shinji sees during the TV ending actually the souls' of those people, or are they just Shinji's projection of those people? Or is it a little bit of both?

>>147055188
If still after all of what happened in EoE you still call it a Shinji bad-end because he ends up on a devestated beach, then you missed the point of EoE.

Anywhere can be paradise as long as you have the will to live. Which is exactly what Shinji gains during instrumentality.

>>147059122
Because instrumentality is every soul as one, I see it as a little bit of both.

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>>147059813
Yeah, Yui mouths some platitudes then fucks off to explore the galaxy, leaving her son behind on a screwed up planet.

>>147059999
Yui was the true villain the whole time.

Nice get btw

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are gendo and yui the worst parents in all of anime?

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>>147061428
There's some competition for the position.

>>147059999
wowow

>>147063126
it's the option to upload the image as a spoiler. Every board has their own custom spoiler icon. /a/ has yotsuba and /vg/ has a question block and so on. You're cute, don't kill yourself

>>147063126
jeez anon you need to experiment more

that said I only just learned the ctrl-s shortcut for spoilering a few weeks ago

serious autism

>>147053657
Yes, but specifically from Shinji's perspective. Instrumentality is supposed to be a different event for each person.

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>>147052126
yw

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>>147052126
it's been 21 years yet you guys never seem to be able to find an explanation on your own

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>>147052126
Just imagine if people that can't figure out Evangelion on their own weren't allowed on this site

>>147063953
It always makes me wonder just how utterly fucked up you have to be to come up with shit like that

>>147052126
Omedetou

>>147064318
Some call it art.

>>147064364
So be it. The fact that such an idea would probably never even occur to me makes it confusing for me.

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>>147063953
Bravo Anno

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Rei is shit.

RIP

>>147052351
Heh, nice twist on that overused "voice of an angel" compliment

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You shouldn't expect anything else from trash like EVA and japan. Seriously Eva is a garbage clusterfuck of story and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in waifu faggotry and NEUROSIS. The normal anon can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.

However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The broken, angsty characters all trying their hardest to hide from their mental issues, the SYMBOLISM, peculiar, complex machinery, the whole Freudian faggotry and everything about the Evangelion world fuels their fantasies of being a patrician, while the pity-party character backgrounds, emphasis on guilt tripping, and overall preachiness of the series make it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underage retards eat this shit right the fuck up.

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>>147065056
Hmm

>>147065056
Chill

>>147065258
Fucking disgusting. I've heard he has also stolen from the likes of Lopushansky and even Troell, but never been able to confirm it.

>>147065773
what are you bumping for nigger

>>147065913
Nothing

>>147065913
Everything

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bump lol

>>147065056
>>147065307
It's pasta. very old pasta.

Is EoE kino?

>>147066180
what does kino even mean

>>147066232
Big guys

>>147052126
the budget ran out

>>147066232
It's a /tv/ meme just ignore it

>>147066232
Art

>>147066232
it's a greek prefix that means "movement" that /tv/ thinks means good

>>147066064
That is a very long neck.

>>147066232
German cinema

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>>147066509
Just Kaworu being Kaworu

>>147066660
>alolan kaworu

>>147061428
>yui
she protected the kid. Gendo still shitiest dad tho

>>147067522
kek

>>147067739
> Yui
> Protected

Yui:
> Design a master plan for Armageddon along with SEELE
> Take your kid at 4 years as a spectator to an experiment which for all intents and purposes removes you from his life, arguably knowing this is exactly what will happen
> Call it the glorious future you're giving him
> Only wake up from bakelite after your son's teammate has been eaten alive
> Start armageddon and place the burden of responsibility on your mentally crushed son's shoulders
> Bail out to float in space for all eternity because reasons, lol while son is left to fend for himself in a barren wasteland of earth

Don't get me wrong, Gendo isn't getting any Father of the year awards, but you do seem to have a rather interesting definition of "protection" right there...

>

>>147052126
No, it's up to you to interpret the ending. Each time you watch it, there is something new to catch, some detail that you never noticed before that makes you rethink the ending altogether. The ending can be literally explained, as in somebody can literally explain each scene, but then you're missing the point. Although it may have been the ramblings of a madman tripping on antidepressants, the fact of the matter is he made something unique and beautiful with complex themes ranging from sexual insecurities to acceptance of death. The themes and ideas cannot be spoon fed to you, you have to watch it multiple times and find something new to think about.

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>>147068822

>>147063126
This has copypasta potential

>>147068974
No it doesn't, fuck you.

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>>147063126
This post is something else. Eternal summer is real.

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>>147052763
No. Unless you are like a little baby who needs things spoonfed to you, the show ending is fine. But why wouldn't you watch it?

It's good.

>>147069046
lol Ive been an anon here for a few years, and today, I barely learned that this post can be used to make fun of another one. I didn't even know that.

I was like; "anon, you trolling? How does it not have pasta potential?" And then copied and pasted it.

Wow... Totally has me fooled. Makes me wonder how many true pastas I passed up all these years on here... I'll never know...

Oh well... Time to kill myself lol #headdesk

Can I see only End of Evangelion or I won't understand what's going on?

What should I watch before End of Evangelion to understand what's going on?

>>147069288
End of Eva is an alternate version of the last two episodes. The action is still cool to watch but you won't understand the plot at all without at least watching the more important episodes from the show.

Preferably watch the entire show before EoE, and then never ever watch the rebuilds.

>>147069288
you should watch the 26 episodes of the series before the movie. if you watch the movie you won't know what's going on. some of the later episodes have director's cut versions, try to watch those to make sure you get everything.

>>147069288
Watch the whole original Neon Genesis Evangelion series with the directors cut episodes (20-24). After you've seen that watch EoE. Don't watch EoE now since you won't understand shit and you'll regret it if you watch NGE later anyways. Oh and the rebuilds are aight but watch them after the original work

>>147069288
End of Evangelion is the finale movie to the 26 episode series, Neon Genesis Evangelion.

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>>147069288
>END of evangelion
>guys can I watch this first??

>>147069288
You must watch NGE TV series before even trying to watch the EoE, otherwise it won't make any sense

>>147069793
kek
>falling for bait this hard

>>147052126
Shinji realized that no one actually hates him and everyone congratulated him on his newfound self esteem

>>147069912
>i was only pretending to be retarded

I think I finally realized. Does the EoE ending take place AFTER the end of the tv series ending? -in the way that Shinji completes the instrumentality in the tv series and breaks out of it in EoE?

>>147070276
It takes place concurrently

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Show ending was the best ending, no one can prove me wrong because I'm right.

>>147070350
well when you put it that way

Now watch EoE

>>147069383
>>147069405
>>147069445
>>147069475
>>147069821
Thanks for the suggestions guys.
I was hoping for a list of episodes that are essential to the plot without the filler but maybe that was too much to ask.

>>147070327
How does that make sense? I thought he chooses to return to earth in EoE

>>147068747
> Design a master plan for Armageddon along with SEELE
> Take your kid at 4 years as a spectator to an experiment which for all intents and purposes removes you from his life, arguably knowing this is exactly what will happen
> Call it the glorious future you're giving him
She went along with SEELE's plan because she already knew too much, and knew they were going to dispose of her as soon as she stopped being useful. Creating Unit-01 and merging with it was the only way she saw of affecting the outcome of Instrumentality. If you paid attention to the series you'd know that, speedwatcher-kun.
Everything else is just her being a horrible judge of character who only sees the best in people she loves. For fuck's sakes, she trusted Gendo not to fuck things up after she was gone, and Gendo's a good for nothing goon who spent his college years constantly needing to be bailed out of jail after getting into bar fights.

>>147070017
>pretending

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What's the deal with Rei? Everyone says she a clone, but was she ever originally a normal kid or was it always just a clone of Yui?

She never had parents.

>>147070473
I'm afraid I haven't watched recently so I don't remember which ones in specific matter

>>147070477
The very ending of EoE takes place after the series ending, but Shinji's mental breakdown happens in both EoE and the series. EoE just shows us what's going on while he's freaking out and crying into his hands.

>>147070017
Yes, and you were stupid enough to not recognize it. You know that implication you just made does nothing to defend your own stupidity right?

>>147070717
the spergrage proves it, you truly are retarded

So in conclusion, this anime made you really think. Did it not?

>>147070861
I know this is hard to understand because this is an anonymous imageboard, but I'm not actually the guy who baited you, nor the guy who mocked you the first time for being baited.

The "spergrage" is either your imagination or outright projection. It's okay that you fell for it you know, everyone does sometimes.

Gendo did nothing wrong

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>>147071236
>I know this is hard to understand because this is an anonymous imageboard, but I'm not actually the guy who was "baited", nor the guy who was mocked the first time for being "baited"

>>147071634
disregard the greentexting I forgot to delete the >

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>>147070648

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>>147071341

>>147064239
But, then there would be no /a/. It'd just be me, all alone. And maybe just one other boy I guess, like Shinji with Asuka on the beach.

>>147052126
sage

>>147076891
sage is not a downvote you retard

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>>147076891

>>147076891
It was a bump in disguise, really. clever.

>>147052126
shinji has reached his breaking point, while the machinations of his father and seele have also reached their final stage.

The final two episodes are a representation of the end of the world and its reconstruction through the minds of the cast. They all come to the same conclusion: they deserve to exist as individuals. Shinji is reborn to a waiting crowd of the people that he knows. They all congratulate him, the end.

>>147059999
>>147060566

she waited until shinji didn't need her anymore, then followed her dreams

that ain't a villain, that's someone attempting self-realization after childbirth

>>147076891
Best post of this thread.

>>147076934
Stay mad, evafuck.

>>147078667
Why are they all on a small blue rock then?

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What did they mean by this?

>>147080664
this from EoE?
>anno finds a way

>>147080664
I thought about typing out the binary to see what it says.

I decided not to though. Someone else do it.

>>147080735
Yes.
6:54 on the bluray

>>147080765
First column is 0001001011 0010111010 1101110101 1001010011 1101011010 0010111010 1101110101, and translates to K�7P%05��7P. First row is 0001001011 0111010100 1011011010 1101110100 0110100101 and translates to K@-�7@P.
I wasn't positive how it was supposed to be read to I did both.

>>147072488
so what's the answer

>>147080979
It doesn't make any logical sense no matter how you decode it.
ASCII is 1 byte--8 bits.
All other encodings are multiples of 8-bit bytes.
There are 7-bit bytes, but are unused on modern systems. There are no 10-bit bytes.

>>147080979
You might need to play with it a lot, left to right, up and down, spirals. Who knows how it was arranged, and it's binary so you need the order correct or it will never work.

>>147081199
well, why not use an old system then.

>>147052126
No, Evangelion is not a 'show', it's a random collection of generic Sci Fi plot stubs with no ending. Sorry you wasted your time with it

>>147080979
Here's a transcription
0001001011 0111010100 1011011010 1101110100 0110100101
0010111010 1000101110 1011011001 1011010110 1010001110
1101110101 0000100011 0011010110 1101000100 0001000110
1001010011 1101010001 1010001000 4010001010 1101000000 [sic]
1101011010 1101010100 1101010000 0010100101 0110111101
0010111010 1000101110 1011011001 1011010110 1010001110
1101110101 0000100011 0011010110 1101000100 0001000110

>>147052126

tl;dr: No.

>>147086034
Don't expect anything more from me, all I did was use a translator on google, if there's a way to translate that that doesn't result in gibberish i don't know dick about it.

>>147080982
The sun and the moon. In the EVA lore the first impact was when an asteroid struck the earth and created the moon, and Rei always framed beneath the moon in the night sky, and the ending is fly me to the moon, and the lance of longinus ends up there. Moon plays big role in series.

>>147085356
Too deep for you? Why don't you go watch some baby anime like lucky star?

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>>147052126
Yeah, go watch End of Evangelion, it even spells it out for you.

I just had a nice instrumentality dream. In my version of it, after I watched everyone die (and listened to a cool cover version of Kom susser tod that I'll never here again), I just woke up, which was a pretty fitting end to that dream.

Huh, this thread's still here.

>>147090249
It would be too bloggy to detail it, but it happened to me too after I finished EoE. The cool part was it happened in three separate dreams, 2 nights in a row and 1 nap in between both days.

>>147077045
topkek

Why do they congratulate him in the end? And what does the spear of longinus do?

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>>147091197
Same thing as most spears.

and why does anyone ever get congratulated?

>>147091261
Because this is a deep show with deep contents.

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>>147094046

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>>147052126
Misato > gays > little bitch > log girl

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>>147094320
>being one step away from faggotry