Was this the peak moment of anime history? Will anime ever be able to reach anywhere near to this?
>>147001116
My little anon cannot be this serious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp2U5vBetkM
uhhh, one punch man exists so no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kkMO4yjjXE
Gives me chills every time.
>>147001116
Come on Tyrone, at least try and watch more anime.
Why are american dragonball fans so fucking obnoxious?
>>147001116
Not even the best scene in DBZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH_CcJ-uBWI
>>147001849
>american dragonball fans
OP is South """"American"""
>>147001877
>dub
End yourself.
>>147001116
no. The dragon ball z anime is fucking garbage holy shit I can't believe people watched that.
It's literally like unironically watching the one piece anime.
>>147001877
THIS
>>147001116
The transformation itself was nice even though it was more or less "Oh right I can't kill Freezer with the genkidama since I still need to explain SSJ", but the fight was a snoozefest.
>>147001877
Did dub Goku ever take that shit he was trying to force out?
>>147001918
Why do americans (south&north) love db so much anyway? Especially blacks?
>>147002004
Because its anime for non losers
>>147002014
Keep telling that yourself if it makes you feel better
>>147002004
Because it is entirely composed of FIGHTAN, which appeals to lower IQ groups.
>>147002002
He did pass out one time when recording a SS4 transformation
>>147002059
Yeah because watching moeblobs do nothing requires one to be a rocket scientist
>>147001943
You first
>>147002121
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbrRhhbmWq8
>>147001918
OP here. I'm actally a european
>>147002121
Now you're catching on
>>147001116
>Meme Ball
FUCKING SPICS GET OUT OF MY /a/
>>147002185
Spain?
>>147002327
Tell me about Spain, why does he wear the basque?
>>147002312
Reminder that this shitstain of a board is here cause of dragonball
>>147002440
Why are you even here you butthurt faggot. I heard /fit/ loves db
>>147002440
>moot made 4chan cause of mexiball
Nice meme
>>147001116
The day when Oda will die due to exhaustion of over work by his editor and publisher, only then will we be free of OnePiece faggots and the anchor of creativity on the industry brought about nastalgia and predictable shounen plot. His death will literally save anime.
>>147002469
>>147002471
Anime did become a thing in us cause of it you newfags
>>147002534
>in us
Like I said, american dragonball fans are obnoxious
>>147002534
>in us
Nice meme, Juan.
Best scene, best dub:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0sgaKIj8J8
>>147001116
t. Some nigga with nostalgia goggles or who only watched the fight scenes
Objectively, looking at the entire show, watching it in order, every episode, real time, it's garbage.
>>147002741
'no'
DB was superior to DBZ.
>>147002893
"yes"
>>147003060
>>147002893
""maybe""
>>147003075
I don't know
>>147001943
Why does everybody hate the dub? No way can you actually enjoy the Japanese voice for goku
>>147003538
I do, and I think it fits his personality a lot better than these B-movie strongman voices.
Official Z-Fighters ranking:
Piccolo > Goku > Future Trunks > Gohan > Kuririn > Tenshinhan > Goten > Trunks > Yamucha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>>> even more shit >>>>>>>>>> Vegeta
>>147003538
I hate the music, i dont have any issues with the casting itself.
>>147003538
>he doesn't like based Granny Son-Goku
Hello Tyrone
>>147001116
>Was this the peak moment of anime history?
Yes. No one in this thread can prove otherwise.
>>147001116
Peak moment in anime history was probably episodes 25 & 26 of Evangelion, or perhaps episode 26 of the original season of LoGH, depending on your tastes. If you haven't seen these absolutely classic shows, go watch them now; you can hardly call yourself a fan of anime otherwise. And no, it is actually impossible to ever relive how incredible these moments are, so do not expect that we'll get anything even remotely this good in the future.
>>147002507
His spirit will live on in the thousands of hack mangaka that attempt to "honor his legacy with this hit new successor." And you know what? It'll sell, too, because the nostalgic, still-mourning fans will eat it up!
>>147001116
This scene reminds me of how Hitler went on about the Aryan race being the most superior.
>>147001116
Joe Yubaki's death.
Muh dick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjve9s90DRU
is there even anything that comes close to the impact super saiyan had in anime?
I'd say Love Hina, we owe that series for the modern harems and Keitaro MC's
Dragon Ball only got big because it was new and fresh at the time, and as such people still adore it for nostalgia alone.
Looking back at it however it's pretty fucking garbage and anyone denying that is a nostalgia faggot. Even Naruto, which essentially spawned from dragon ball, is a way superior series.
>>147005842
Only thing I see in that gif is Toriyama's samefaces.
>>147006004
>Dragon Ball only got big because it was new and fresh at the time, and as such people still adore it for nostalgia alone.
You got that right. If DB Super confirms this. If it didn't have DB in its name, no one would be watching this.
>>147006004
You say that for everything I guess, and not only anime. Denying everything because your life stinks, you feel powerless and vain and you can't watch yourself in a mirror. How miserable.
>>147006004
you're probably too young to even nostalgia about Dragon ball my dude.
>>147006004
>Dragon Ball only got big because it was new and fresh at the time
>at the time
nigga, kinnikuman was head and shoulders more wacky and cliche than dragon ball.it also predates dragon ball.
>>147006258
what
>>147006004
>implying
I watched Dragon Ball and DBZ again recently and it's vastly superior (especially Dragon Ball) to the most of the garbage that is discussed here every day. You're just trying to be contrarian so you can fit here.
DB Kai funi dub had the best english dub of all time of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeXUgF2qEuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeqvWLN9vO4
>>147006004
But that's wrong. There was a lot of anime before DB, good or bad it just wasn't that big. DB was a massive hit and made anime vastly more popular.
>>147001116
The fleet engagement in Irresponsible Captain Tylor was one of the most memorable moments in anime for me. It stands equally with the climax of Macross DYRL despite an entirely different resolution of the climax.
https://youtu.be/ZpjuIBYQ7lg?t=7m58s
>>147006573
Way better than the OG imo. Rewatching it again and just got past this part not too long ago. Would watch Kai but only streaming sites I find that have it only have the nicktoon airing episodes which ae censored
>>147006573
Ruins it.
>>147002121
The most expensive and complicated machine ever made by humans is called ALICE.
Cute girls are entertainment of the elite.
>>147006573
>3D
What?
Agreed on the dub though, the first dub is just plain horrible to go back to.
>>147001116
This was the point when Dragon Ball jumped the shark, if not earlier.
>b-b-b-but the later arcs were worse!
The later arcs tried resolving plot threads that would have been left unanswered had the series ended at the Frieza saga i.e Gohan's fabulous secret powers, and giving previously unlikable characters (Vegeta) some actual character development and redemption. Meanwhile all the Frieza saga introduced was the curse of the super saiyan powerwank faggotry and literally every single other problem that still afflicts the franchise to this day. This meme where the Frieza saga was the pinnacle of anime and the high note that Dragon Ball needed to end on needs to fucking die already. The Z portion of the franchise (Saiyan saga onwards) has always been shit (or at the very most consistently mediocre at best), and the complete antithesis to the charm, wonder and sense of adventure that the original series had to offer.
>>147006554
I give you DB but Z is absolute garbage
>>147001116
yes frieza saga was the peak of shonen anime
>>147007574
The later arcs were worse because they made SSJ trivial and just spawned stronger enemies and escalated the whole thing. They should have stuck with Kaio-ken wrecking your body and SSJ being a rare think only switched on by intense anger.
But yeah, DB was vastly superior either way.
>>147001116
For me it was Joe Yabuki's death.
>>147007866
You forgot about the dragon balls being reduced to nothing more than an easy reset button. At least for a brief while in the Saiyan saga the stakes were high due to possibly permanently losing the dragon balls, but that all goes out the window when Tori just pulls another set out of his ass.
>>147008022
Yeah, that and in DB they were at the center of the adventure, in DBZ collecting them became completely trivial.
>>147001116
Shit up newfag, anime reached its peak with pic related.
You see that kid? that's Marco
He was sold to an old man
The old man adopted him as his grandchild and taught him to street perform
Then he died of cold on the streets
Marco and his animals (a dog and an epic monkey) were attacked by wolves
The dog died defending the kid
The monkey died of hunger and cold while performing to earn money for the kid
The kid crossed the whole of europe during WWII, then made it across the pacific and into south america
He finally managed to showcase his talent and get admitted into a music school with a scholarship
He had no chi powers, no martial arts, no magic power. His friends died because nakama power isn't a real thing, and all you get from sacrificing for other people is the satisfaction of the act itself.
This was anime perfection, then your monkey boy came along and fucked up any seriousness that anime as a storytelling medium had.
I am still waiting for anime to bounce back from it, but all I keep getting are highschool fanservice, magic, martial arts, or stuĂd-as-fuck nakama power used as Phlebotinum(1) to keep anime in the trash can.
Go watch Grave of the Fireflies, Marco, True Tears, and Rainbow, then talk about anime as a perfect storytelling medium.
Or just die ina fire, and take your shonen shit with you. Nakama power indeed!
(1) Phlebotinumnote is the versatile substance that may be rubbed on anything to cause an effect needed by a plot. Examples include but are not limited to: nanotechnology, magic crystal emanations, pixie dust, and Green Rocks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Jk2roGtvQ
>>147008313
bravo
>>147007952
Burning up into pure white ash.
>>147008313
Dont forget that after crossing two continents looking for his mom, Marco (aged 9 at the time) finds her dying in a whorehouse.
>>147008313
>>147001116
It think it depends on when you started watching anime OP.
>>147008313
Rather than pic related, you meant the video, I assume? I found a spanish movie and a english "bed story time" version.... the art difference is amazing. The modern remake looks like shit compared to the old version, what the fuck went wrong? The original series was from 1976
Old remake (1999)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK-pcu2xU1E
New remake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb-H2KALpXA
No, im serious, what the fuck happened to it!?
>>147008313
One fucking job
>>147001726
Get out.
>>147003569
What a coincidence, I hate the Jap orchestral shit music.
>>147001116
Man, I don't know why Toriyama decided to make death so cheap in Dragon Ball, I still can remember that in this precise scene I thought I would never see Krillin again.
>>147007131
And where does this semen demon spawn from?
>>147001797
>unfitting forgettable music
>goku sounds like he has something stuck in his throat
the dub is way better
>>147001116
>Will anime ever be able to reach anywhere near to this?
Some of the later TTGL transformations came close in terms of hype but other than that not really
>>147001116
This was.
>>147001116
>Was a scene from an adaptation the peak of anime history?
No you fucking idiot.
>>147016629
Almost got me.
Joe Yabuki's last round or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQwrjdSz4F4
Are way more iconic
This maybe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq0SHf97XEU
>>147017585
>>147001116
It was a good fight, but that scene ruined dragonball. In that instant, all non-saiyan characters (every character from dragonball) became worthless for anything other than transporting sensu beans or collecting dragonballs.
Except maybe Piccolo who held on for a bit with fusions before being thrown in the trash heap with the rest.
And it really bothers me that the human characters never once used the spirit bomb. An attack that doesn't care how strong you are and only needs time to charge it up. It's literally the perfect attack for those characters and they've all trained with king kai (except Krillin despite dying twice).
>>147021275
Not necessarily, it could have been like Kaio-ken, or the way SSJ3 was, so that Goku would only be able to use it in some situations. But instead everybody just turned into a rare legendary saiyan overnight.
>>147021275
That's probably because Toriyama planeed to end it with that fight, he didn't need the other characters to be useful since he wasn't going any further with the story.
But the hack kept going.
>>147022452
It would have been a good end too.
>everyone made it back to earth safely
>Frieza, the most dangerous being in the galaxy, is dead
>Goku's fate is unknown
>I'm too good for DBZ
This thread. Go back to jizzing all over your anime body pillows and carefully trimming your neckbeards. DBZ is a man's anime, and for a lot of men it's the only anime.
tldr get laid watch dragonball
>>147021275
>It was a good fight, but that scene ruined dragonball. In that instant, all non-saiyan characters (every character from dragonball) became worthless for anything other than transporting sensu beans or collecting dragonballs.
Even before that, the near death power ups had already done that. Piccolo had to go through an unique fusion with the strongest warrior Namek in order to become a match to Freeza form 2, but Vegeta surpassed that power by just getting blasted by Kuririn and then cured. And Goku recovers and is suddenly even stronger than that Vegeta. There's a reason near death power ups were mostly forgotten after the Freeza saga, they were completely broken.
>>147022991
>DBZ is a man's anime, and for a lot of men it's the only anime.
>>147001726
kill yourself
>>147001943
Jap actress for Goku is utter shit compared to Dub actor
The finale to the father son kamehameha is easily the best moment of the series.
Vegeta SSJ theme and DRAGON them are the fucking shit
>>147001364
First post
Best post.
>>147024034
(you)
>>147002002
I think once, yeah
>>147022991
based newfriend
>>147001877
All that powering up and he wasn't even as strong as Gohan in his normal state after the Kai power up.
>>147001849
If you mean americans as in US people, they got into DB last comparing to the rest of the world.
If you think DB is a USA thing, you might be either an alien or underage.
DBZ was big as fuck in Europe during the early 90s and then it spread all across the globe in the mid-90s where its popularity peaked.
Also, Super is now number 1, it already beat One Piece in Japan and everyone is watching Super online.
Dragon Ball is popular as fuck, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Not a single thing. It was already popular before you were born, think about it.
>>147025922
>Bola de Drac
Huh, most countries don't translate the title.
>>147026006
Yeah, it's a catalunia thing. They translate everything.
>>147025922
>mom bought me the first DB manga
>loved it
>every week she would bring me the new one from the kiosk
>ended up having the whole collection>my black friend stole them
>>147025922
>>147026006
>>147026067
>Bola de Drac
Amic meu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3QsSuOKLbU
Even the in-chapter songs get translated here. Also, best Gohan scream of all dubs.
>>147027394
What language is this and how and why do I understand what they're saying?
>>147001797
LMAO those voices
>>147001116
The objective peak.
Just sad it ruined all the subsequent DB forever, when the author tried to replicate that moment countless times after it.
>>147003538
Only weebtards hate Dragonball dubs.
>>147005739
>00:11-00:12
What the fuck, sounds like Freezer is gagging on spit.
>>147027583
It's Catalan and you understand it because all Romance languages are pretty much the same thing.
>>147001116
Why is the brazilian dub so much better than every other dub?
>>147028442
>implying it's better than the mexican dub
JAJAJAJA INSECTO
>>147027583
>>147028131
Nah it's because passion speaks more than words.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrMKeRXfpNc
Another gem of this dub: Vegeta speaks archaically and his insults are wacky as fuck. One of the most overused is: "Ets un patata" (literally "You're a potato")
>>147028442
BRfag here. It isn't.
Japan > Mexico > Brazil > Latino > Portugual for the meme quality, it's actually shit > rest. There might be some dubs I'm forgetting that are also good.
>>147023333
Quads of truth
>>147028629
Isn't the general Latin American dub the same as the Mexican one?
>>147028629
Which one is the latino one? I'm from Argentina and we got the mexican dub here.
>>147028629
Are you insane? Goku's voice in JP sounds like a fucking faggot
>>147028847
t. Jamaal Jenkins
>>147028801
My brain wrote "latino" when I meant to write Spain bcause it was thinking "spanish but not that kind of spanish".
>>147017585
>>147022452
If he ended it at Frieza saga it would have been considered the worst arc of the series because it had literally every single thing wrong with the franchise on display (uninspired villains who are bad just for the sake of being bad, fights dragging on for dozens of episodes, every non-super saiyan is stupid and useless, rehashing the same "Goku's friends are beaten by the badguys while he rushes to the rescue for eight whole episodes" story structure over and over again, half the plot threads left unanswered etc.)
Has anyone seen in the original Dragon Ball movies? I'd watch them but I can't stand Colleen as Goku/Gohan.
>>147001116
>Will anime ever be able to reach anywhere near to this?
Yes, probably thousands of series already did.
>>147001797
Spic version or no version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIaqOkk7MIw
>>147001918
>saint seiya > dragon ball
>>147002741
Indeed. So tedious, so much filler, so much 'Now I'm fighter with only 1/4 of my strengh'
>>147006554
nice try
>>147032699
>stock animation: the show vs actually a good anime
>>147001116
It's probably the most obvious example; but I legitimately thought the transformation could've been handled more dramatically.
My personal favorite moment in anime would be Shinji's final confrontation with Kaworu in ep 24 of NGE. That, or the time when his EVA runs out of power (right before it eats the angel's core) and he freaks out and starts pleading with it to start moving again.
>>147001726
Fuck off outta here.
>>147004146
I don't understand how anyone could possibly call 25&26 the "best" of anything when the movie adaptation fuckin' blew it out of the water. Pic fucking related.
>>147032663
No thanks.
>>147032699
There's a reason St Seiya didn't get that popular.
>>147016629
This is so true. Not even memeing. I can't even stand to listen to most of the original due to the lack of music.
>>147028629
Another BRfag, this BRfag is completely right.
>>147033531
>This is so true.
>unfitting forgettable music
>forgettable
How? DBZ is the shounen with the most unique music I can think of. Nothing else sounds even remotely like it (if you know something similar please prove me wrong). You instantly know it's DBZ music as soon as you listen to any of it. Meanwhile the American soundtrack is generic shit that could have been from anywhere else, sounds like generic 90s video game music.
>>147033531
>I can't even stand to listen to most of the original due to the lack of music.
How's that OCD going?
>>147006554
DB, yes, its better than most shit now
DBZ, you can't be serious, recycled frames, non existent plot outside of "my power level is stronger than yours" most of the characters get sidelined and even a glacier has a faster pace, that can't be a good show
>>147001726
>everyone fell for it
>>147008022
the show is called dragon balls for god's sake, finding them was the fun part, now they can collect them in one afternoon with no troubles and only use them when kenny gets killed again
>>147030857
>villains who are bad just for the sake of being bad
Name a single one in the Namek saga.
https://youtu.be/lIH9uas-uPk
Not even a gohanfag, but the music was really good in this.
>>147002391
qeq
>>147001877
geez the lung capacity on this guy
>>147035438
Frieza
>>147033719
>Nothing else sounds even remotely like it
watch more pre 00 anime you retarded faggot
>>147022512
>Goku's fate is unknown
That's a pretty shitty ending desu even the Cell saga would have been better.
>>147038636
the cell saga would have been a great way to end the series, but no, they still keep milking to this day
>>147034750
They like dragonball. Of course they're retarded.
I remember having my dad buy me these booty ass vhs sub vids from a store in nyc whilst growing up. Waiting for this ep was memorably one of the most anticipated things in my adolescence. Loved this show as a kid; and was psyched when it was dubbed wholesale on toonami.
>>147006573
This dub, as compared to the original jap version (say whatever you will of the voice acting; gohan is not particularly apt imo), with all of the added goku sounds and grunts, loses something of the original impact.
In the original jap version, goku's rage is mostly silent in himself, but embodied in the planetary effects. That version lets us, the viewers, come on our own to what goku is thinking about Krillin's death—that he had already been resurrected by the ballz, and was now dead for good.
I think the music in the original actually adds to the scene, whereas the grunting in the eng dub takes something away.
inb4 nostalgia fag. But I do think the original does have better cinematic qualities over later versions.
>>147006573
Gohan sounds like a cat being raped.
>>147039008
Still better than I AM THE LIGHT IN THE DARKNESS I AM THE BACON IN THE FRIDGE I AM THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE FOR EVERYTHING THAT CRIES OUT IN FEAR
>>147008313
Kanashimi no Beradona? That was playing in theaters in the Village several months ago. That's perhaps some of the most creative use of the 2d paper medium I've yet seen; not in a storytelling manner, but in the way that art/visual-imagery actually can speak for itself. Dope ass enka soundtrack don't hurt one bit.
>>147039203
I don't understand your comment to my post >>147039008
>>147039008
There's something about classic Japanese cinema that's really special. I get a distinct feeling from watching old samurai flicks that definitely bled into other media like manga and anime.
Since anime has become SO mainstream, I feel a lot of that magic is gone. You can definitely see this in the different iterations of the same scene across the last couple decades as the later versions seem to "skip" over the point trying to bleed the scene of all it's emotional significance.
Kind of in the same way popular music has less and less of an arc with a buildup and climax in favor of a constant repetition of the same catchy riff. Scenes are systematically built to sell.
>>147039299
I'm referring to the Funi dub of the original anime, which even Funi themselves admitted was bad.
>>147030795
only /a/ knows Code Geass
That's not even the strongest Geass moment fampai
>>147001364
>expects murren lagann
>gets tetsuo
10/10