Dragon Ball Super

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>>146916698

>>146917028
JPEG, mother fucker.

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>>146917028
Poor Chi Chi, she must be so lonely all the time.

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Will Trunks ever surpass SS2?

Does he even need to? Apparently his SS2 is SS3 tier

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>>146916698
> It's time

Time for the extermination of all Ningen, maybe

>>146917221
He will but he'll skip SS3 because at this point it's an unnecessary form.

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>>146917221
Dragon Fist kaioken x10 ssr from black when?

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>>146917259
N-NINGENS??!

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>>146917432
> Dragon Fist

Maybe if it was a canon move Goku actually knew, anon

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>>146917221
>>146917295
hoping

>>146917432
this is the only move goku made his own and it's not even canon

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>>146916698
When will we get to see some action from this two?

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List of current and upcoming DBS arcs:

> Re: BoG Saga
> Re: RoF Saga
> U6 v U7 Budokai Saga
> Future Trunks Saga
> Time Breakers Saga
> Demigra Saga
> Dragon God Zarama

It'll probably total to 100-150 episodes

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>>146917937
> Future Mai
> Future Yajirobe
> Future Launch ?

The Future timeline seems to be the only place were old DB characters are still relevant.

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>>146917937
Whenever Tien stops being gay

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>>146918021
seems to reason i mean most of the big players are kill while the rest got to shine.

When was the last time we saw Piccolo stretch his limbs?

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>>146917953
> Time Breakers Saga
> Demigra Saga
> Dragon God Zarama
xenoverse canon... pls anon try again

>>146917953
>time breakers saga
>demigra saga
fake as fuck

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>>146918110
no

>>146917432
i actually want to see super saiyan kaioken
maybe goten or trunks

generally id love to see krillin or tien to train the kaioken and get some action

>>146918161
the kaioken is an goku only move.

>>146918202
but didnt tien piccolo, chauzu and yamcha train with king kai
and i bet others could learn (like the kamehameha)

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>>146918110
>>146918119

To be fair, this current arc seems to be leading towards it.

> The concept that Time-travel is illegal
> Time Rings
> Future Trunks is back. Might become a Time Patroller later on.

It also doesn't hurt that Toriyama created the Timebreakers, Towa, and Mira (for Dragonball Online).

But apparently not Demigra (Which appeared in Xenoverse first, not DBO)

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>>146917432
forget about kaioken we need ultra god sayian

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>>146918202
> Goku only
> King Kai knows Kaioken

If Kaioken can be thought to Saiyan Saga Goku, everyone else should be able to learn it by now.

>Krillin names his daughter after his ex-girlfriend
What the hell is wrong with him. I hope 18 never finds out.

>>146918338
no it won't
zeno will destroy that timeline
trunks and mai will move to the past
the next arc will be the 12 universe tournament

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>>146918418
He probably just really liked the name.

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roshi the immortal

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>>146918437
How are they going to have a 12 universe tournament?

That's too large. Maybe it's do-able if only one person was nominated per universe...

>>146918656
>only one person was nominated per universe
nah nobody want's to see only goku

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>>146918656

>>146918656
the same as u6 vs u7
with teams of 5 people

>>146917953
What about the multiverse tournament

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>>146918418
>Being this retarded
His ex was filler

>>146918656
Speaking of the tournament, surely Hit will be pretty much unbeatable at this point, at least for universe 7

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12136060/1/Dragonball-z-Universe-9-Seed-of-Life
Tien is about to gather a army to defeat the Sayjin. Will Tao and Evil King Piccolo be able to work together or is Tien digging his own grave.

Looking for a editor and writer.

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>>146916698
>>146918479

Fuck off with this lovely dovey bullshit. Krillin is a beta cuck.

Here a challenge: find me a single 18 doujin that is not NTR.

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>>146918418
Marron is a chestnut pun, like Krillin.

I doubt Toriyama named his daughter after a filler character

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>>146918885

>>146918885
fuck off fag

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has dragonball gone full cycles?

>>146918854
Man that episode where Cell grew to try and eat the the cast was too fucking weird.

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>>146918716
>>146918738

> the same as u6 vs u7 with teams of 5 people

Teams of 5 for 12 universes: 60 fighters.

Yeah that's not gonna happen.

>>146917640
This moment is great, you can feel how horrible it felt for Zamasu, a ningen touching him?, a fucking ningen overpowering him in a fight?, Zamasu felt raped right in that frame.

>>146919005
>she's a robo-babe!

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>>146918885
>dbzfag
You have to go back, you're not welcome here.

>>146918791
This >>146919084

It's very unlikely

>>146919084
5v5 team fights
until the finals
then 1v1 with the 2 last teams

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>>146919089
Soon anon, soon. We'll start with their waifus.

>>146917640
what the fuck is the god of destruction of U10 doing letting an emo kai running around ?

>>146919084
There will only be one or two characters by universe, or it will start at the end of super, like it did for Z

>>146919169
> 5 v 5

That would be a clusterfuck, and probably unwatchable.

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>>146919034
no not yet still waiting for this.

>>146919323
> There will only be one or two characters by universe

So I guess only Goku and Vegeta? Also that's still 24 fighters...

> or it will start at the end of super, like it did for Z

Maybe. But I'm more inclined to believe it'll end with DBO's end timeline since Toriyama was involved with it.

>>146919461

Yes, 24 fighters is still huge...Even 12 would be huge I guess.
What happened in that DBO timeline ?

>>146919332
YuyuHakashu did it quite well. And it wouldn't be every universe, most likely Universe 6, Universe 7.1 and Zenoverse, plus a random universe.

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>>146917670
How dare you stand where he stood.

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>>146919545
> Age 779
Launch makes the news, somehow, as she jailbreaks successfully for the 100th time.

> Age 780
Pilaf attempts to take over the world, only to fail yet again.

> Age 790
Mr. Buu creates a female Majin called Miss Buu after reading one of Mr. Satan's adult books, "Bob & Margaret"

> Age 791
Baby Buu is born via the Love-Love Beam: the two parents tear off many pieces from various parts of their bodies, mix them together, and birth life into the dumpling-shaped pieces by firing the beam into it. This event lead to the later appearance of an entire Majin race.

> Age 794
Mr. Satan's granddaughter Pan becomes a martial arts instructor. Afterwards, Pan asks Bulma to help her develop a system for people to battle each other across long distances so that she could create a Telecommunicated Martial Arts Dojo. From this point on, the sports-like fighting course became very popular, especially among young people.

> Age 796
Mr. Satan's film "Satan Legend" is released.

Age 801
> Goku goes missing: realizing his death is imminent and wanting to settle their rivalry, Goku leaves the Earth with Vegeta for a final battle. Years later, a supernova explosion is detected; it is assumed to be from Goku and Vegeta's battle.

Age 804
> Gohan begins research for his book Groundbreaking Science. This event leads to the creation of Trunks and Goten's Kikoukenjutsu Sword School in the following year, Age 805, and Krillin and Tien's revived Turtle and Crane schools in Age 821. As a result, by Age 1000, many Earthlings have taken up advance martial arts and understand ki control.

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>>146916698

Could Buutenks be actually the strongest Buu? He was clearly far ahead of everyone, even SSJ3 was nothing for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYdXZ9ut8qk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsOVla3jNj4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOzcogoNkno

>>146920153
in terms of dominance showcased in the series ? yeah he is but if it comes to who is the strongest it's still buuhan.

>>146920153
>what is Buuhan

>>146920227
Wait, who is the chick in the middle? Fuck I need to start watching this shit.

>>146920321
videl fetus powers lol

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G-GOWASU?

>>146920208

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>>146920153
buuhan is he just had a bad day facing the most powerful fusion to date.

>>146920416
from the look of name of the file of that it's updated onto imgur then reposted.

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You know goten is black. You can all laugh all you want but deep down you know that it's true. This is tobi 2.0. where people were all like it can't be cause in tobi vs minato obito was still a kid and during that fight tobi had an adult body bla bla look where that brought you. And now we got people here who think just because goku is already dead in the future black can't be goten.There is a reason future trunks hasn't met goten guys....

REMOVE NINGEN
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>>146920800

>>146920800
Hahahahahaha narutard trying to make sense my sides

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>>146920886

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>>146916698
17 was cool, I'd like to see him in Super.

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>>146920971

>>146920989
tfw no comfy family get together episode of Krillin and 18's family and 17's family

>>146917295
you know, thinking back on it, i feel like blue/red ssj god is kinda cheap, because ssj3 at least had a drawback that it requires too much ki/afterlife-time, and yet blue does nothing but gives you a power bonus

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>>146920800
Get out

>>146917221
Watch him turn SSB and still fight more or less the same against Black or Zamasu, because Toei and Toriyama have become terribly bad at showing consistent power levels.

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>>146920989
>tfw no real life hover bike to play a children's card game
it hurts

>>146920153
As angry as I am at Gohan jobbing to Buutenks, and I will be for the rest of my days
1)Buuhan is stronger than Buutanks
2) That vest looks fucking awesome on him
3) That shot of him holding up Gohan by the neck is cool

>>146921100
In the manga ssjblue cant be abused which means thats you can only fully benefit from it by turning to it once. The next time you turn blue you only receive 1/10 of the boost.Not sure how long you gotta wait to fully use it again tho

>>146921100
Blue has 10% energy cost.

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>>146920800
Stop it anon. Just stop it!

>>146920800
I agree with ya most people dont realise that there could be a timeline which is similar to the main one and thats how future zamasu was able to know about goku from there.

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>>146921100
Only SS3 has a noticeable drawback like that.

Also drawbacks for the SS god forms:

> Red (SSG) requires a ritual.

> Blue (SSB) has a huge initial transformation cost.

Although the SSB drawback only exists in the manga. So it's likely just a toyataro-exclusive addition.

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"Trunks! It's time for your bath! Hurry up and take off your clothes!"

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>>146920800

> Black introduces himself to Trunks as "Son Goku"
> Black takes interest in Goku and his fighting style
> Zamasu interested in Goku
> Black uses Instant Transmission
> Goten was not born in the Future Timeline
> Goten is a Saiyan hybrid, so his hair actually grows longer. Unlike Goku.
> SSR Black tells Goku that he should be grateful that "You have reached the height of beauty (Goku's body becoming SSR) at my hand"

Nothing points to him being Goten. Meanwhile all evidence suggests he's Goku.

>>146921385
Goku can turn ssg in the manga at will.
What I dont get is that ssg against beerus not nullified punches could destroy the whole universe but ssb has of yet not showcased an impressive feat. Not only that ssjb has only collected L's.

>>146921464
We dont even know what ssrose is. Is it blue just with negative aura or is it the next level or could it be that ssr is only exclusive to half sayians like oh you guessed it goten

>>146921385
>Only SS3 has a noticeable drawback like that.
yeah i know, but i always thought of ssj1 as something of an imperfect version of ssj2, which is the "real" ssj transformation. While ssj3 is ssj2 except using the entire power it could give you throughout a fight into 5 short minutes or something like that.

the ritual thing for red is something like a "training", training doesn't count, where blue is more like the version of god you can use at will

>>146921464
not that anon, but
> Black introduces himself to Trunks as "Son Goku"
Because he knows he looks like his dad(or rather zamazus enemy), thus making trunks fight a person he recognize as a hero
> Black takes interest in Goku and his fighting style
obviously, because goku is the legend zamazu is shaping goten into
> Zamasu interested in Goku
see above
> Black uses Instant Transmission
that...okay, i do have some ideas how this could happen, but i admit any of these ideas are farfetched
> Goten was not born in the Future Timeline
he could be. As not fearing any upcoming cyborgs, goku could have fucked chichi more, meaning goten could have been born in the same year or maybe even earlier than trunks
> Goten is a Saiyan hybrid, so his hair actually grows longer. Unlike Goku.
You can cut your hair, you know that right?

only one of those are really questionable

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>>146921517
> Not only that ssjb has only collected L's.

So has SSG. In fact, Goku has lost to everyone except Botamo. and Future Trunks if that counts.

He only beat Freeza with Whis and Vegeta's help.

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>>146921569
> We dont even know what ssrose is.

Basically SSB, but for gods.

Black seemed a bit surprised on the color of SSB's aura.

Blue aura = mortals
Rose aura = god

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I guess if you use the ritual once you can turn to this from at will according to the manga while the blue one you can get in hard training with an attendant once you know the trick to get ssjb you can teach it to others, but requires hard training which the time chamber should do the trick for doing it "fast" way to get a year worth of training in a day.

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>>146920800
If Black is Goten, this would be so wrong

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>>146921625
> the ritual thing for red is something like a "training", training doesn't count

It does if you have to do the SSG Ritual everytime. Unless you're talking about Toyataro's SSG.

And yea Goku was able to squeeze out the last bit of SSG power he had left at the end of his fight with Beerus, but he still has the ritual to thank for that.

>>146918110
>>146918119
>>146918338
Interesting note, the sweater F. Trunks is wearing now, he also has under his jacket in Xenoverse.

>>146921803
But are ssblue punches strong enough to destroy the universe?

>>146921937
Don't worry, that's actually ChiChi Black

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So, with all the recolors, how you guys think they would explain ssjl in Super?

>>146918095
Vs Frost. Would've won with them if not for poison

>>146921873
> SSB = SSJGod + SSJ

you're baiting right?

>>146921758
You know there is nothing saying Black is from the Future time line... only that Black can time travel.

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>>146919196
But what if Zamasu is my waifu

>>146921968
>NOT canon
Problem solved

>>146922007
Didn't it straight up say that the time ring reacted in order to rip him back to his own time?

>>146922007
mind you, i am NOT saying that black IS goten, i am saying those things he mentioned are no indication that he 'can't' be goten

>>146921758
For the instant transmission its because the kaioshins know it and zamasu could have simply thaught it to goten.

>>146921385

SSJ Blue was mentioned to have a ki cost to sustain it too in lines that were shared by the anime and manga in the beginning of the Hit vs Goku battle (this is different from the bit in the manga about turning into it twice, it's about sustaining the transformation, and it's the reason Goku in the manga uses SSJ and SSJ God during most of the battle, only going with SSJ Blue for the (failed) finisher).

The anime proceeded to ignore it afterwards though and hasn't referenced it again, so I guess they won't acknowledge the ki cost stuff.

>>146922130
i can't exactly remember, but did Black used his fingers to the forehead gesture to teleport? Because that is the one Goku uses, while the Gods(or rather that one Kaioshin assistant. Remember, the actual Kaioshin from Gokus universe couldn't do that) don't need to do that

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>>146921961
SSG doing that was not in Toriyama's version of BoG (movie). Therefore filler.

I wouldn't take anything from the Re:BoG and Re:RoF too seriously

>>146921973
Black differentiates between mortals using God Ki (SSJB) and actual Gods (SSJR)

>>146922130
They actually don't. King Kai only ever says that in the Funi Dub, in the manga he only ever notes that Goku must have learned it from the Yardrats. There isn't any real indication that they know it themselves. Especially in a Universe where Yardrat doesn't exist.

>>146922170
Goku when doing the instant kamehameha also doesnt need to do it.
They probably just do it to show the viewers that they not only moving fast but using the instant transmission.

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>>146922170
Its Goku.

>>146922176
But it was both in the manga and the anime. Maybe toryiama simply retconned it.

>>146922229
true, but that was like the only time and cell was right in front of him, meaning he didn't need to pinpoint the location of the ki

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>>146921973
SSB = Goku and Vegeta using SS to obtain the power of SSG. Rather than by ritual.

Goku/Vegeta aren't actual gods. However they both have the power of a god.

Meanwhile Black seems to be one, since he refers to others as "ningen/human"

>>146922076
Own time but not own time line. The time ring can't be used to go back to the past. Black was returned to his last point of existance.

>>146922254
though that begs the question, black didn't seem to have the memories of goku, and yet he can do the kamehameha and instant transmission.
Meaning it is more likely he got taught those techniques

>>146922170
>or rather that one Kaioshin assistant. Remember, the actual Kaioshin from Gokus universe couldn't do that
Kaioshin himself used it in Super though. But, yeah, no fingers on head.

>>146922213
Dude kibito and the lil kaioshin both know instant transmission. I am sure gowasu who is the teacher of zamasu could have taught it to him and then he taught it to gohan

>>146922324
must be either a mistake, or he learned it while being fused with his assistant. Because i think he explicit mentioned in DBZ that he couldn't teleport, only his assistant

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>>146922330
They know Kai Kai which isn't the same move. IT is from the Yadrauts, but Kai Kai is from assistants like Kibito or something

>>146922323
Well do we know that he has the memory of Goku or not? I mean so far we haven't really been shown anything that would indicate one way or the other. I mean he is aware of who everyone is. The biggest way to tell would be to use Mai, but not even Goku himself seemed to recognize her, which is odd, you'd figure he would.

>>146922330
kai kai=/instant transmission

>>146922456
I don't know about that. Black didn't kill Mai, didn't kill Vegeta and didn't kill Goku and Trunks. He has the power to. It almost seems like he holds back to make sure he doesn't kill his friends. I bet Bulma is still alive.

>>146922456
I mentioned that he doesn't know, because he clearly has no idea about ki(remember, only throughout the battle with trunks he learned how to detect ki), doesn't know about capsule cooperation nor ever mentioned any information about bulma etc.
Even if one becomes evil he would do those things.

>>146922452
Also the Kai Kai dont require you to sense the ki before the transmission
But still the anon have a point

>>146922263
Neither of which are from Toriyama.

No reason why he would involve himself in rewriting BoG again (since he already rewrote the script for the movie)

When DBS was announced, he mentioned writing the script for the Champa arc. Not re-re-doing BoG.

It's possible that either Toei or Toyataro borrowed from each other in regards to the movie re-tellings

>>146922559
Those he didn't kill obviously were just because of shitty writing. Bulma was the necessary sacrifice to show "This villain means business" but Mai is needed for the romance subplot, and Vegeta/Goku obviously have to remain for the franchise

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>>146920800
Might sound farfetched but blacks gi is just a recoloring from goten's.

>>146922591
Doesn't kill Mai, Vegeta, or Trunks (although he tried to) but human genocide is okay?

>>146922689
strangers if you will.

>>146922630
nah, the long sleeves are just so Black seems more black. Even if he is goten, that would be just a coincidence
(also Gotens uniform at the last timeskip in Z is a short sleeve one, meaning it's not like it's his trademark)

>>146922323
>(also Gotens uniform at the last timeskip in Z is a short sleeve one, meaning it's not like it's his trademark)
His current uniform in Super already is sleeveless.

>>146922689
I don't think he did. He missed vital spots... I am saying Future Zamasu is wearing a Goku suit, and goku sometimes fights back against it.

>>146922893
i really should start to pay attention to what i am watching in Super.

>>146923017
I don't think he missed one of Vegeta's vital sports. He basically pierced his lungs and stomach, that is pretty deadly from an organ and leaking fluids standpoint.

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>>146923017
> Future Zamasu is wearing a Goku suit

Black =/= Zamasu has already been confirmed in recent episodes

I honestly think Black is just Goku.

>>146923120
No it hasn't. There are 2 Zamatsu. One is from Goku's time line and one is from trunks time line.
Gokus time line wishes for Immortality.
Trunks one witnesses the death of a god of destruction and fights a dead Goku taking his body for his own.

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can someone convert to gif this dancing vegeta? another meme is born
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58816609

>>146923254
retard

>>146923393
Wait why. How can there not be two Zamasu?

>>146922044
note: Zamasu is being called a KAOIH, not a KaoihSHIN(pic very related).


Zamasu is not a God. Zamasu is NINGEN.

>>146923364
ugh, from the looks of it to use java script shit and save all those frames and put it all together into a webm/gif. sounds like a pain in the asshole.

>>146918885
>krillen
>gets the hottest women in the show filler or not
>a cuck.

>find me a fanmade doujin.

I'd tell you to eat shit for being such a retard, but you already read ntr.

>>146923715
GOWASU

>>146922254

i just assumed that black is so OP that he learned it from watching goku do it seconds before.

>>146923715
It's been explained that he is just a normal kai like King Kai, but due to his fighting prowess he is being taught by Gowasu to be a Supreme Kai.

>>146921873
Why would a god need the power up of a Mortal? Not that it doesn't look cool, but it doesn't make that much sense to be honest

>>146923958
I could definitely see it. Honestly, for some reason I have a feeling that Black isn't necessarily OP, but he can adjust automatically to whoever it is that he is fighting. Whereas someone who jumps in, like say Trunks, his power adjusts accordingly to be on a similar level, but higher.

It would explain some things in terms of Power Levels. Zamasu on the other hand is a different story. Zamasu was able to push Goku back, but Trunks was able to turn him, though I suppose you could right that off as the sword gives him reach and an advantage in fights which is why he uses it, and the last bit, he had him stopped and was able to flip and then ora ora him.

Could be interesting if you had a 2v1 against Black though if that is the case. His power could be switching between two constants.

>tfw Yamcha becomes relevant again

I don't know, I just have a feeling their is a gimmick to Black's power.
>>146924197
Maybe Zamasu bonked Future Goku in the head in the afterlife and now he's forgotten he was a Saiyan and old Goku, like when he bonked his head as a toddler.

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>>146924197

- SS1-3 are power ups for mortals

- SSR is a power up for gods

- SSB is a power up for mortals (with god ki)

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>>146924197
it all stared from here.

>>146924197
Ultimate irony or some shit like that I'd imagine, kinda like how Frieza chose to make his form golden just for the irony of Super Saiyan being gold

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What is Zamasu watching?

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>>146925219

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>>146925219
woah

>>146925279
That is so cruel

>>146925279
FUCK OFF BLEACHFAG

>>146925219
The new episode watching himself get killed

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I just drew this premium Krillin.

pls R8

>>146916698
Is there even one decent subgroup doing Super?

>>146927726
Batman makes them obsolete

>>146927642
I can't tell if he's angry of happy

>>146927642
Looks like a dick.

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>>146927642
That's hot. Makes me wanna change my oil.

Why didn't Goku use Kaio-Ken?

>>146928075
He could fuck up his body by doing it

>>146928075
Goku couldn't even fly after using that.

I doubt he'd use it again.

>>146927642
Didn't know Krillin was Jewish.

>>146918854
>On that day, humanity received a grim reminder

It's WT time dokkan bros. Who's grinding?

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> Dr. Goku
> Still afraid of needles

>>146927642
Is this a leaked Dragon Ball Super still?

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>>146921952

Time Patrol Trunks confirmed?

>>146920153
>Did Buu's lower body fucking fart at 1:05?

>>146921937
What ever happend to future chichi did she die during the androids reign or did she get BLACKED?

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>>146923364
Here you go, faggot.

You better be right. I better be the progenitor of some dank animu meme.

>>146923798
Orrr... Be a god damned Golden God like me.

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Will Ten Shinhan ever be relevant again?
No?
Fuck

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>>146930338
she died and from the ashes a new evil rised...
Goten....BLACK

>>146928796
goku being afraid of needles is toei filler

>>146930338
probably the androids or stress, future chi chi literally looked like she was dying once goku died

I've not gotten into super yet, are there any English dubs? Additionally, is Piccolo stronger than Gohan now? I understand that he is on Team Universe 7 and not Gohan.

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>>146917937
never

>>146931231
retard

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>>146931231
Piccolo replaced Gohan's spot in the team because Gohan had an important conference.

Gohan was much stronger than Piccolo in RoF. The gap between them has probably has shrunk by now...

Though not severe enough to the point where Piccolo surpassed Gohan.

Z is not canon

>>146932661
You're right

DB Kai is

>>146919084
No tournament saga in the history of DB franchise showed each fight.

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ITS YA BOI GOWASU

>Gowasu lewds never

>>146933246
They always showed every fight except the preleminaries.

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>STAND BACK EVERYONE I GOT THIS!!!

>>146934247
You've done enough. I want you to live happy with your family. At least until your daughter gets her own show and becomes everyone's waifu.

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>>146934600
>STAND BACK DAD I GOT THIS

>>146934091
>muh ningen rapefugees

kys

>>146934600
>At least until your daughter gets her own show and becomes everyone's waifu.
So in other words, never.

>>146930734
He technically saved everyone in the Buu saga, just like in the Cell saga. It's not his fault everyone else fucked up again.

>>146934915
Dubs confirm it happening though. Your argument is invalid.

>>146919992
>Goku goes missing: realizing his death is imminent and wanting to settle their rivalry, Goku leaves the Earth with Vegeta for a final battle.

Wait, they aren't anywhere near 80. Why would they do this?

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>>146921758
>You can cut your, you know that right?

>genociding ningen in an apocalyptic world
>let me get a haircut real quick with my trusty kai scissors

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This is the most underrated villain in Dragon Ball.

Bra when?

>>146932661
Nothing in Dragon Ball is canon. Toriyama never said anything Dragon Ball related is canon, thus there is none.

>>146936743
>being this dumb
because zamasu ain't a fabulous haircutyer?

>>146921758
>goten
well, the kaioshins can instant teleport and he has a kaioshin earring, he could have learnt it, and Goten doesnt necessarily need to be from the future timeline, since zamasu has his rings for alternate dimensions he could have picked a Goten from anywhere else.( or a bardock or whatever)
The gi however is spot on and he has goten sleeves and shit, so I can see it happening.

>>146936743
End of Z Goten complains that he has to keep cutting his hair because everyone thinks he's just Goku when they see him with uncut hair.

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hi

>>146939625
it's actually the other way around, he stopped cutting his hair because he would look like goku otherwise

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>>146921074
>No comfy ep where you can see 17 and his family living 16's dream.

My heart.

Is the anon that wanted a drawing of Vegeta with Future Bulma, Future Mai, Future Trunks here?

>>146941888
Right here

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>>146941958
Here ya go. I took a little liberty and added some things, feel free to get rid of the midget scrubs on the left if you want, and I went with Trunks' old design, personally I just like it better.

Again not perfect like the other one, but I hope it works. Vegetable's family are full of manlets.

>>146937750
That's not the Cell jr that tried to run.

>>146942073
Awesome thank you saved.

>>146942263
No problem man, glad you like it.

>Goku fights King Piccolo, who's going to ruin the world
>Gets pumped and angry, gets angry at the threats to kill Tenshinhan, blasts himself so hard off the ground that he's able to punch right through Piccolo's chest and kill him
>Beeerus threatens to destroy the world, has already beaten all of Goku's friends
>"Haha Beerus, fighting you is so fun! Haha! I can't believe such strong people exist! Haha! Well, I guess I lost. Go ahead and destroy the Earth!"
Why is neo-Goku so shit? He's not just a bad person, but he's a quitter, too.

>>146943260
he simply doesn't care anymore

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>>146943260
>>"Haha Beerus, fighting you is so fun! Haha! I can't believe such strong people exist! Haha! Well, I guess I lost. Go ahead and destroy the Earth!"
So you didn't watch Super then? He only did that in BoG.

>>146943260
Goku went from someone who would kill for his friends to an easy going jackass after Kami taught him to spare lives.

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>>146943743

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>>146943830
The left side of his face is fucking burning off, dude.

>>146940268
Fuck off, Chichi

>>146943743
Hey did batman subs sub all the episodes or did they replaced pafu subs?

>>146944507
Why do you care about Batman when DragonTeam and Over8000 subbed all the episodes until now?

>>146944564
there is no difference and plus dragon shit is taking their sweet time not very reliable to be quite frank.

>>146944647
Yeah, but you just need Batman for the recent episodes, all the other episodes were subbed by better groups.

>>146944677
>better groups.
now I wouldn't go that far. It's the same shit.

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What if...

Buu absorbs Goku and Vegeta (at their request) and defeats Zamasu and Black?

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>>146944853
why would they bother with that bubble gum of a villain when they can simply fuse into a being that raped his ass?

>>146939176

Well I'm sure Zamasu is a fabulous haircutter actually.

I just think a haircut is a pretty trivial thing to do considering Black's genocidal agenda.

>>146944991
They'd lose their own identity.

>>146944991
>OMG VEGITOR CAN BEAT ANYYTHING FUSION IS BEST, WHY DON'T THEY DO THAT WITH EVERYTHING

Fusionfags who say Vegito or Gogeta is the answer to everything are annoying. They even had to go out of the way in the BoG movie to say fusing wouldn't be able to beat Beerus

If Goku and Vegeta fused, Zamasu and Black would fuse as well and mercilessly beat their shit.

Zamasu is immortal regardless, he could easily beat Gogeter. Goku and Vegeta don't want to fuse, or solve shit with fusion, its lazy.

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>>146945246
is he gonna die? or ZAMASU will make him his slave?

>>146917221
No. Never.
He will stay at boring lame ass fujo shlick bait SSJ2 fuccboi stage forever.

>>146917295
It's actually because no one save for toriyama in his prime could actually show them all with consistent powerlevel. No Toriyama just looks back on it all and says "fuck it" I'm too old for this shit and just lets the new gen work with his ideas.
And the new gen are a bunch of penny penching faggots, most of which don't know or care too much about DB at all.

>>146945660
>He will stay at boring lame ass fujo shlick bait SSJ2 fuccboi stage forever.
If that's the problem, then they could just skip SS3 and give him SSB.

>>146945226
At this point Vegetto would be strong enough to beat Beerus and maybe defeat Whis.

>>146921100
I know. SSJ3 was just a massive fucking power boost that couldn't be achieved no matter what and increased durability and healing. But the Ki costs were apparently ridiculous.

SSJ2 being able to get up to even NEARLY that level was bullshit. It was passable and cathartic when vegeta did it cause vegeta's whole thing is desperation/fear based power up looking cool for a sec then getting knocked the fuck out.
Trunks being able to get close to SSJ3 while a SSJ2 and even fighting on par with people who were able to give ssjblue a tough time is absolute bullshit.

And I'm still fucking pissed that they didn't actually have a full ep of trunks ending the buu saga before it even began in his timeline.

>>146946185
Wouldn't trunks have the same sort of freakish potential that Gohan has by nature of being Half-human half Saiyan? I mean if it was Gohan who was fighting Blackmasu at SSJ2 I feel like it would be alright because his potential was already unlocked by elder kai. I don't think it's far fetched to say Trunks is at least approaching that as his anger scales given that we know he curb stomped the Androids when he got back and then managed to prevent Buu from resurrecting and THEN managed to survive all these years from Black despite getting into direct confrontations with him.

>>146938184
Never, she no longer exists.

>>146943749
>Kami
>Teach Goku anything
>Implying it wasn't that horrilble monster Popo that taught him everything he knows about fighting and peace.

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>>146944564
>Dragonteam
>Until now
Choose one

>>146945817
He's already able to fight against fucking black and zambitch.
Making his hair blue would be a lame fucking cop out.

Make him an ultrasupersaiyajin 3. That will look distinctive and make him cool as fuck.

>>146946429
No, the unbelievable potential thing is a Gohan only thing. Trunks whole thing is righteous anger and being a no bullshit, no stupid pride and love of fighting fighter who'll do almost whatever it takes to win.
That desperation that drives him is just like vegetas. That's their power.
The desperate need to win and survive and protect their loved ones/subjects no matter the cost. It's what drives their power boosts.
However there is a hard limit to what they can do. They can not ascend to new levels, only push what they have to their limits.

If Trunks had a teacher who was more cunning and had more ki abilities he'd be a really formidable fighter. Maybe crane school or piccolo style stuff. I know gohan basically perfected all of the techniques that he learned from piccolo and every fighting skill Trunks uses is basically piccolos as perfected by gohan(which is pretty cool) but he doesn't actually know enough to do better with it.
He basically perfected the ultra saiyajin transformation as well.

Anyway, Trunks half saiyan potential is just having increased growth of power and being able to go ssj easier. Kid trunks and goten show us that.
The massive wellspring of power and growing by leaps and bounds thing is a gohan only thing.
Trunks would do better to follow the desperation/self sacrifice to protect others will to power thing instead of trying to mimic gohan.

Cause the only person who gets retarded strong when they get pissed is Gohan.
Goku gets stronger when he has to protect people or is having fun fighting
Vegeta gets stronger when he's full desperation mode
Same for Trunks. Oh and the androids of his time were weaker then the androids he faced in the past.

>>146945163
he has emo hair

>>146946705
They still haven't done 56, let alone 57.

>>146947061
I barely remember Buu or Cell saga, did they explicitly say only Gohan has that potential?

>>146944853
that could be a nifty idea...

except Toriyama is a fucking hack who can only to continue jerking off to Goku in the spot light. Vegeta will always job and the rest of the characters will be unimportant

>>146947236
It's been explicitly shown.
Gohan as a boy during the Cell Saga was the only one able to take out Perfect reborn Cell in his newly minted SSJ2 form.
Trunks only got to USSJ and it was useless.
He got more powerful but he was still objectively weaker then Vegeta.
Not so with Gohan who was acknowledged to be more powerful and more potentially powerful then everyone even without the SSJ3 form. His base power level and potential with power was so ridiculous that he didn't really need any new forms.
right now he's basically stuck in mystic form and his SSJ1 has a ridiculous cost to use compared to the SSJ1 that goku vegeta frunks trunks and goten use, and going SSJ2 basically gave him a heart attack because of the insane ki drain. At least that's my headcanon anyway.


And the SSJ3 form has some great perks outside of looking cool.
Higher durability, super speed, healing, ridiculous power output.
It was just the full package.
Goku was just a lazy cunt who never trained in it because it cost so much ki and up till kid buu and beerus no one could do shit against him in that form. So he used it like a special attack form instead of long term battle form and never perfected it.

>>146947538
He's not even supposed to be able to go SSJ, that was the entire gimmick behind Mystic. It unlocked his entire potential without the need for ever going SSJ. Him going SSJ is just needlessly unnecessary and doesn't increase his power in any way as its already at its max.

>>146947538
>Head canon
So what you're basically saying is you're talking out of your ass because this show is poorly planned?

>>146947729
If that's his max doesn't that make him the weakest? Or is that essentially his max at any given moment with the caveat that he can always train to SSJ3/B levels without needing to transform?

>>146947885
>If that's his max doesn't that make him the weakest? Or is that essentially his max at any given moment with the caveat that he can always train to SSJ3/B levels without needing to transform?

Well at the time, he was probably the strongest considering how easily he beat the shit out of Super Buu. Barring Vegito/Gogeta of course.

Now though, it seems like some of that potential has been stripped away due to God Ki. I'd imagine God Ki would overwrite his Mystic Form, as that seems to be his max potential as a mortal. I imagine it'd be something like this in regards to the currently living Saiyans as far as we know barring God Ki and Fusions.

Mystic Gohan > Rage SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ3 Goku >/= Full Power SSJ2 Trunks > SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ Cabba > SSJ Kid Trunks > SSJ Goten > Tarble

Since we don't really know the potential of Kid Trunks or Goten due to their ages. Pan isn't listed because its hard to exactly determine her strength.

Now with God Ki that gets really odd because now you have Goku and Vegeta who have made a significant jump, along with Black who may or may not actually be a Saiyan?

Its safe to say that Mystic Gohan was stronger than SSJ3 Goku, Super Buu was just that strong, with God Ki overwriting Mortal Potentials.

>>146947729
No he doesn't need to go super saiyan because super saiyan is just an instant push to levels that he could have gotten if he had simply trained every once in a while.
It's basically the equivalent of him instantly getting the same power levels he would have gotten if he had trained for a few months or so. He's slacked off that fucking much.
The only draw back IMHO is that the ki drain is possibly far greater.
So he got a boost to what he could have achieved with a few months or year of serious nonstop training in a second at the cost of his ki energy reserves.
Him going SSJ2 is him getting to..what 75% of his real power without him being physically able to handle it ON TOP of the a ki energy cost that dwarfed SSJ3?

This actually says that he's gotten abnormally weak during this time and he's using SSJ as a cheap power boost that costs him more then it gives.

>>146918888
Check'em

>>146948414
Old Kai tells him to try turning SSJ in the manga, to which he ends up going Mystic instead. He literally isn't supposed to be able to go SSJ anymore, Mystic replaces it.

Or at least it did before Super.

>>146930585
If vegeta doesn't jobs next time, maybe

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>>146918885
>NTR
It's time to stop.

>>146946458
fuck you asshole.

>>146949250
chill no need to get all salty.

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>>146916698
Time for Marron to actually look and act like the 9- or 10-year-old she really is by this point, instead of being eternally stuck as her 3-year-old Majin Boo arc self? Because at this point she has less than three years to magically just from toddler to teenager?

Yeah, I agree.

>>146949250
The fuck is with you and a character that canonically exists as a character for all of 2 fucking minutes in the anime and not even 1 page in the manga.

Tights Brief has had more fucking screen time then her.

>>146949394
Well Kid Trunks is the same age as F. Trunks was when F. Gohan died, 14. Goten is 13 (granted he has Goku genes so whatever). I'll even let Marron slide due to Krillin genes. But we've seen Trunk's genetics, no excuse for him.

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>>146949577
If Marron only still LOOKED short and young, then yeah, we could hand-wave that by saying she inherited Kuririn's stature.

But she still ACTS like a toddler too, which is the problem. Barely talking, getting carried around and spoon-fed by Eighteen, riding in an infant car seat, etc... So it's just like Goten and Trunks where none of the kids are being aged past the Boo arc out of laziness, even though it's been another 6 or 7 years since then...

>>146917937
I heard that Tien is apparently asexual.

What is Gowasu's GodTube's channel gonna be about?

>>146950386
Tea, comedy routines, and Zamasu

>>146950620
Also The Sims. He has a 1000 part ongoing Let's Play of The Sims. ZAMASU is sometimes a co-commentator.

>Gowasu, that lady doesn't know where the damn bathroom is! And she hasn't left the hallway because a ningen child is in the way! She has been like this for hours!
>Patience, Zamasu, the ningen will work this out on their own
>[Housefires]
>FUCKING NINGEN
>ZAMASU

>>146950774
If things continue the way they are when team 4 star gets to super something like this will actually happen.

>>146925355
https://youtu.be/gNIwlRClHsQ

>>146950386
He just uploaded new videos today.

Oolong Tea: Tea Review #40
Goku vs. Vegeta 1: Classic Fights #20 Part 2
Lets Play The Sims 2: Ningen Edition Part 13
Gowasu Sings - Heart Shaped Box by Nirvana

>>146918095
>When was the last time we saw Piccolo stretch his
limbs?

During that Monaka vs Goku episode that takes place after the tournament.

>>146945169
You think being trapped in a nutsack inside buus body is any better?

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>>146916698
>Zamasu destroyed

Oh shit zimbabwe btfo.

>>146921968

I'm kind of surprised that Toriyama and/or his editors are so reluctant to make him canon, considering the fact that I'm pretty sure he's still one of, if not the most popular non-canon characters in the series.

Then again, more pure-blooded Saiyans besides the two that are alive now just muddy the water, I suppose.

>>146952757

I'll go further

In punishment for killing Gowasu, Beerus destroys Zamasu.

Having been destroyed in the present, the future Zamasu should also be destroyed but Trunks is full of uneasiness and wants to confirm it in the future..

>>146952757
>>146952837
is this legit or it's just like those spic spoilers?

>>146952922

I don't know. I'm just translating what I read in >>146952757

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>>146952922
it's as legit as it gets

>>146952837
Ok how after all this time does Future Trunks and fucking Toei themselves not understand that Future Trunks' timeline is not fucking Goku's.

I mean goddamn, its fucking stupidly simple to understand this shit. Is Toei the ones always bitching about Terminator and Zelda and shit too? God I love to see them wrap their fucking heads around Primer.

>>146953040
>Ok how after all this time does Future Trunks and fucking Toei themselves not understand that Future Trunks' timeline is not fucking Goku's.
Exactly, neutralising the androids in the present didn't stop the android attack in Trunk's home timeline. He can't undo anything with his time machine, he could only bring help from the past to fight for him.

>>146953095
Yes, cause while Future Beerus is dead in that time line his other alternate counterpart isn't effected.

>>146953095
Honestly it baffles my mind, like its really not a hard thing to understand at all. Its pathetically basic.

I mean hell they already explained split timelines in Super itself, granted they explained that Future Trunks' timeline was the split which is wrong, unlike the manga which did the reverse, but still.

I'm going to guess those are fake, because I can't imagine them being that stupid, or making Trunks that stupid, who already knows it doesn't affect anything.

>>146953143
frankly more than pathetic, more baffling these shit-faced faggots at toei fail to grasp simple concepts, but i'm not surprised given they're retarded japs.

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>Has Goku's body
>has a similar ki signature to Zamasu
>but from the latest episode he and Zamasu are not the same
>but both a of them whose has the same goal of riding of the niggen plague.

It's safe to assume Black became the new God of Destruction since Beerus is kill while Zamasu took the role of the Supreme Kai since he is dead as well as the God of Creation in Future Trunks's time line.

>>146952922

It's legit and his translation is too.

>>146953345
But how Beerus can kill Zamasu if he's inmortal now?

>>146953243
Like I understand if they want to avoid the Cell Timeline or the Unseen Timeline (which still doesn't account for 5 rings, only 4), but even still, its just absolutely bizarre. Like the stuff with Bulma, where she keeps referring to it as her Future self. I mean technically sure its your Future self, but it is also a completely different person, like Future Trunks and Kid Trunks.

At least Toriyama tried working out time travel to the best of his abilities, and for the most part it does work out fairly well, it gets a little odd due to Cell and the Unseen Timelines, but it works out. Jap writers though, seem to always screw something up I've noticed, because they want to introduce every possible variation or theoretical theory on how time travel should logically work, that it just becomes a clusterfuck of temporal paradoxes, predestined paradoxes, timelines, butterfly effects, etc.

Like I can't honestly think of a good Jap story that does time travel well without having some type of paradox in some way that makes no sense. Chrono Trigger is close, and I'll let the optional dungeon slide due to gameplay mechanics, and DBZ is close (Super sure as shit isn't). Other than that though, can't think of a single one off the top of my head. Kingdom Hearts maybe, but I think there are at least two instances of paradoxes in DDD, but it runs off Rule of Cool like Metal Gear, where cool things are introduced and worked out later, though KH does it leagues better somehow.

People really need to stop using time travel if they don't understand it. Toyo at least seems to sort of understand it for the manga, so here's hoping if those are true, he does it justice, because so far he's done pretty well with what Toriyama has given him compared to Toei. Which says a lot considering he used to make AF.

>>146953040
eh, it already said f trunks doesn't think the future is saved, he maybe knows what happens in goku's present doesn't affect his timeline from his experience with the androids. there are always guys like beerus or whis who may insist otherwise.

>>146953413
But why would Trunks even bother going to the Future to see if Zamasu is still alive and the whole thing about Future Zamasu?

Trunks knows splits occur. Hell even Beerus should know that. If he died in Trunks' timeline it had to during the Buu Saga, which has already passed in the timeline he exists in, or the fact that they could just ask Trunks why he time traveled back, which was to save Goku, who is still dead in Trunks' timeline, and died like 16 years ago.

Like there is no reason anybody should think the past affects the future when time traveling in Dragon Ball, not a single person. Well outside of idiots like Buu and Goten and such.

>>146953378

Beerus probably thought he was dead and just went home, he could of been hit with a very convincing blast and didn't bother to check because he knows it would of killed him.

>>146953467
>Buu Saga
careful, Buu saga in trunks' time happened way later than it did in goku's, goku's timeline still hasn't reached the time trunks killed his androids

>>146953533
Well you've got me there, either way, Goku being dead in Trunks' timeline 16 years from where Goku is in the Z/Super Timeline should be enough of an indicator for Beerus, or Vegeta, or pretty much everyone.

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One thing I noticed while watching last week's episode. When Mai is turning the time machine on, Black is looking for their ki. However, he says "I can't find their ki, and the OTHERS' ki is in the way".

Maybe this was explained in a past episode, but if Black can find normal humans by their ki, why didn't he kill them all already (hiding from him would be useless)? Or did he mean someone else by "others"?

>>146953613
He's probably just screwing with them honestly. I mean he has been at this for a year and didn't outright eviscerate Mai the first time.

Who else could even possibly be alive, Hercule/Satan and Videl? Yajirobe seems to have been the only one to survive the Androids besides Trunks, Chi-Chi, Bulma, and Mai. Hell out of all of them barring Trunks, Yajirobe has the highest power level by far.

Just Toei being dumb or Black fucking with humans I guess.

>>146953662
I think he just recognized the fandom potential for Mai and decided to make her a recurring character in some way.

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Time Travel not even once lol

>>146953701
I don't mind Mai back at all, they're actually doing some pretty nice things with her. I always liked the Pilaf Gang, but they were always just sort of comedy relief ya know. I'm glad Future Mai is actually getting this cool prominent role, especially for a woman in a Shounen, which is what 18 and Videl both should have gotten, but Mama > Importance.

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From Hermes twitter:

MAJOR SPOILERS

RIP banana kai

MAJOR SPOILERS

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>>146953865
How does I into time travel?

>>146953958
Toriyama clearly doesn't know either.

>>146953958
add in that Future Trunks kills future Future Dabura and Future Babidi.

>>146953958
Oh, and mention Future Supreme Kai and Future Beerus are kill as well.

>>146954032
Yeah I should add that. Another interesting thing. There were 5 Rings, but 4 Timelines. Does that mean since Gowasu/Zamasu time traveled to the future, that from that point when Zamasu killed the dinosaur, there is a timeline split from there as well?

>>146953865

I'll miss him.

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1473414574721.webm

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>>146953865
ZAM....a.....su..............

>>146954087
Hell I'll just make a far better one, gimme a little bit.

>>146954100
>Does that mean since Gowasu/Zamasu time traveled to the future, that from that point when Zamasu killed the dinosaur, there is a timeline split from there as well?
Hmm, perhaps/ I'm not sure those rings function like While's staff or like the same way The Time Machine does. I'm more leaning towards a "yes"

So does U10 have a god of destruction..

>>146953865
NO

maybe they think the future Zamasu is the one from this timeline ::shrug::

>>146953958
It's not like that.
There are two main timelines:
1) Goku dies (Trunks goes to the past)
2) Goku lives (Trunks is killed by Cell - really)

Each one has two branches, because remember Cell came back to the past 1 year before Trunks.

3) Cell comes back, Goku dies (Trunks goes back to the past)
4) Cell comes back, Goku lives (Trunks defeats Cell in the future)

The main confusion is how Trunks killed the Androids in the future where he is killed by Cell (suplemental material says he used the remote control, but he shouldn't know about that... yet), and how many times he traveled to the past.

Dragon Ball Super happens in Timeline 4, and Trunks's future is in timeline 3 (because Goku is obviously dead in his future).

>>146954285
Since Gowasu is no more he should be dead too.

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>>146954192
Here we go, look at this fucking mess that doesn't make sense when Cell gets involved.
>>146954371
Because there is a split where instead of destroying the Android base, they find the blueprints, which gives rise to two completely separate timelines, one where Trunks is killed and Cell time travels back in time. Though he should technically travel the the straight line/Future Trunks past as opposed to Goku's, seeing as how that is a split.

Is there an ep tomorrow?

One interesting thought: maybe Beerus didn't want to go to the future because he would outright disappear. Since there must be at least one Kaioshin alive so the God of Destruction can also live, it makes sense that Beerus would disappear as soon as he arrived in the future (because there's no Kaioshin there). Maybe the only way for him to travel there is to go together with Kaioshin.

And that made me realize: is that also why Kaioshins need the Time Ring? Because if they travel too far into the future, they could possibly reach a time where there's no God of Destruction, and they would disappear as well - the time ring could shield them from the effects or whatever.

Just some thoughts. I bet they never even thought about that.

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>>146919084

>>146954575
Depends on whether they're affected by other timelines. If they are, then that is a logical assumption. If they aren't, there is no reason for him not to travel there, other than the rules/balance and stuff like that, though Gowasu doesn't seem to really give a fuck.

>>146954515
There's another confusion - it doesn't make sense for Trunks to have the blueprints to build the remote control, because he would need to travel to the future in-between this and fighting the Androids, and the anime never shows this. He would also need to travel back to the past and be killed by Cell before going into the time machine.

Therein lies the problem:
Cell said he just pushed the button to activate the machine. Why was the machine programmed to go to 1 year before Trunks' first travel?