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SPOILERINOS OUT

BASEMENT OFFICIALLY HAPPENING

DISCUSS
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aw shit nigga
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Annie is love
Annie is life
Annie is everything to me
Annie a miracle of the universe
Annie might've done some things wrong, but she's still a beautiful person inside and out
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I want to hold Mikasa's hand.
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>>146916215
Jesus, Annie makes my heart go doki-doki.
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>>146916149
Spoilers out?? That was like 2 days ago
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>>146916196
>attack on titan is just the nips version of the divergent series
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>>146916196
So Grishas the man and Zeke is the kid right?
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>>146916375
>he watched le divergent
It's actually not.
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If Ymir is the queen of her own walled land or some shit, then why did she spend so many years casually fooling around in some other wall's military while trying to molest a little girl?
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>>146916782
the depths of depravity know no bounds, anon
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>>146916375
This
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>>146916782
Probably kicked out due to clashing ideologies. Hisu is definitely worth it to fool around though.
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>this is the next shifter
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AM is endgame.
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The 4th wall theory is shit.
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>>146916959
>Combat: 2
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>>146916782
>implying you wouldn't do the same
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>>146916149
Do you think Connie will hate Reiner for trying to kill Sasha?
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so the entirety of attack on titan is just this?
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>>146917192
I doubt it.
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>>146916959
Upholding the legacy.
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>>146916959
>>146917373
Kek.
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>>146917373
Don't joke with that. Bort was always a coward. I don't know why I expected him to change.
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Grisha was the black dad all along
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>>146917192
It's probably a little more complicated since the outsiders need the coordinate and want to wipe out all the humans inside the walls.
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The biggest mystery in Attack on titan, aka the basement gave us another mystery.
fuck
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>>146916196
anyone else think this is a gay plot "twist"?

I mean, I liked snk because it was bleak. why can't we just have a bleak series?

he originally planned a "everyone dies" ending. how could that even have happened if the outside world is prosperous?

did he just change the entire story?
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>>146917976
>happened if the outside world is prosperous
Because the outside world wants them dead.
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>>146917976
Everyone dies as in everyone the reader is emotionally invested in. Reminder that a lot of people survived in the ending he's basing this on.
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>>146917976
Its gonna be like the Maze Runner.
We first get to see a story inside the maze and then we get a shitty sequel about them escaping the maze.
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>https://exhentai.org/g/974145/e6d46419f4/
>bert is dead
>this comes out
Delicious.
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I want to molest Sasha while she is injured.
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>>146918111
Can't see it from phone, what is it?
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>>146918455
Anatomy murdering doujin.
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>>146918090
the first movie alone was pretty fucking awful

I hate these preteen grimdark fantasies
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>>146918111
what's the plot i don't read nip
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>>146918670
Gee not interested.
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>>146918455
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>>146916149

CLAIMING this thread for Yumikuri.

Benji will soon wakeup and dump his Ymirs up in here (instead of in the toilet).
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>>146916959
>this is a shifter
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>>146918061
I think Levi and Hange will be okay since they didn't show up in volume 1. Still have my doubta though since you could say the same about Levi's previous squad and they all got killed horribly.
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>>146917192
Nah it will be an experimental project by MAD SCIENTISTS/ ayy lmaos
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>>146918670
>>146918739
>>146918808
This really is a tumblr containment thread
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>>146918867
>This is the 2nd strongest soldier.
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>>146918844
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>>146918830
Well, interested now.
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>>146918977
Also I had bean soup for lunch today so I'm surrounded by the Fragrance of Ymir (FoY) whenever I let one out.
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>>146918920
i like my porn with plot thanks
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>>146918920
You just have lowtier standarts.
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>>146919099
Which reminds me, where can I find the Moblit rapes EH doujin?
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>>146919145
I don't know but there's a doujin where moblit and Hanji make sweet love together.
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>>146919145
The same place. Just search character: Moblit.
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What are the chances that secret of the basement is Grisha's massive gay porn library?
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>>146919343
It's already been revealed to be his family photo album. See >>146916196
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BRA did nothing wrong. They stained their hands with blood for the sake of humanity outside the walls.
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>>146919596
Only a photo album? I don't think so.
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>>146919618
Reminder that for The Village they're heroes.
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>>146919618
>>146919698
Yeah, they're kinda like nazis in concentration camps: Just following orders doing horrible shit for the greater good.
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>>146919794
For someone who supposedly hate the nazis you sure bring them up a lot.
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>>146919794
One of the sides in this war set up actual death camps and it wasn't BRA
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>>146919794
Sounds like humanity inside the walls.
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>>146919936
This.
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>>146919936
>ALL of humanity lives comfortably.
The Village is/was the most perfect place in the world.
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>>146919618
BRA are always best shingekis.
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>>146919936
Also
>a literal Apartheid.
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>The Village noble family is protrayed with plenty of light and happy while The Walls noble family is shady as fuck.
It really tickles your gray matter.
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>>146920407
The Reiss portrait is a drawing.
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>still no christymir dump
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>>146920506
It still don't explain why it's so dark.
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Ymir died for nothing
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>>146920407
The child's body looks weird. He looks like a doll.
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>>146916196
So Berthold was married to Annie, and Reiner was their child?
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>>146920811
Bert was a woman and blonde once?
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>>146920811
>This level of delusion
KEK
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>>146920895

The people in the picture look a lot like BRA. God damn you anon why do you make me explain obvious jokes.
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>>146920928
Because your jokes are as hilarious as the current Sasha: meaning you're fucking boring.
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>>146920691

Ymir is ALIVE and LIVING THE GOOD LIFE (is strange).
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Why didn't BRZ just use Titan sized guns?
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>>146921240
Because they'd be redundant with Zeke's rock throwing abilities.
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>>146921240
Why doesn't the survey corps just use tanks?
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How long until we find out the plot is exactly the same as the plot to Claymore?
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>>146921425
As soon as all or at least most of the main characters turn into grills.

Give it five chapters.
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>no Ymir deepscussions (deep discussions)
>thread slow & dead
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The basement was very underwhelming honestly. My reaction was just a "huh, so it's a different version of the Claymore twist?". I hope It's not just that and Isayama still has more stuff up his sleeve for us
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>>146921773
What did you expect? We haven't gotten any new info about her this chapter. What is left to discuss?
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EH is canon.
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>>146921875

Not this times four twenty billion. Checkmate.
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>>146921818
>The basement was very underwhelming honestly
Pretty much.
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>>146921818
>>146921905
Because the rest will be explained next chapter.
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>>146921818
Literally everything up until now was straight up pumped from Claymore. No big surprise there.
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>>146921818
>>146921905
to be fair, after waiting so long was there anything that would have met our expectations?
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>>146922026
That's kind of the problem with Isayama, he doesn't do buildup well.

If he revealed the basements content earlier in the series, we'd all be mindblown. The thing is, whenever there are mysteries in a series, it's up to the writer to ensure that the buildup is proportional to the revelation.

I remember that, in the early days of the series, there was this 'holy shit' factor, where there was a sense of constant escalation. The series lost that now as we gotten used to the circumstances and the plot armour had a chance to show through.
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EMA deserve death.
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>>146920895
Can't you take a joke?
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They all made it out again.
I'm so glad.

SC >>> SJ
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what to you guys think about the new KOEI Techmo game, worth a buy? I heard the Rustle Jimmer makes an appearance in the game
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>>146922693
I don't understand why honestly
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>>146922945
They don't necessarily have to die.
I expect if they do it'll be together.
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Reminder the based Commander is dead. And so is CT.
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>>146923185
>We must apologize to him in person

I wonder how the other leaders are going to take the news. Armin's incredibly unimpressive compared to Erwin.
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>>146923246
>Armin's incredibly unimpressive compared to Erwin.
Why do they have to tell them about what happened exactly? they can say that he died during battle, and had to use the serum in Armin because he was the only fit candidate.
Regardless, Hange is the one who has to answer to Zackely and bump elbows with Pixis and Nile.
Besides Historia got a side spot for her, having fought alongside with her, so Hage's got it easy.
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>>146923331
>Why do they have to tell them about what happened exactly? they can say that he died during battle, and had to use the serum in Armin because he was the only fit candidate.

Why should they lie to protect EMA? Levi already scolded Eren for leaving out that he and Mikasa threw a violent shitfit to get Armin the serum.
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>>146923388
Because, as you can probably see in this chapter, not Levi nor Hange hold anything against EMA. They've been scolded, but reassured as well.
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Do you think it was Hajime's intention that Levi put Erwins body in a bed, lile his mother died in a bed?
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>>146923435
They're still going to be disciplined for their actions Anon.
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>>146923485
Of course, but did you read how Hange addressed the matter?
>Just because you're ready to take it, does that mean you can do whatever you want?
There won't be a trial or anything like that. It is because of Eren that they've made it this far in the first place, he's the root of all their discoveries.
I don't know how they'll be disciplined yet. There's nothing that can faze Eren and co anymore. Hange will have to lecture them everyday or something.
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>>146923246
>Zackley, Pixis and Nile apologize for a minor thing.
>EM don't apologize for wanting Erwin to die.
At least Isayama made them admit saving Erwin was the right choice, but Levi was driven by personal emotions and choose to let him RIP.
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>>146923574
>I don't know how they'll be disciplined yet.

A few weeks locked up away from Armin wouldn't be nearly enough but it's the least likely to make them defect.

Eren can take some pretty severe corporal punishment and be healed within a day. The problem with that is Mikasa. Making her watch would probably make her throw another tantrum and try to abandon.
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>>146923574
>There won't be a trial or anything like that.
Yeah, but they still will get punished regardless. Though a trial with Zackley as the judge would be better fitting. No blind eye for insubordination.
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>lock up E & M separately to reflect on their actions
>train Armin as quickly and forcefully as possible so he can be caught up to Eren
>Armin starts to resent EM for pushing this burden onto him in the first place
>tfw EMA's divide will be from outside sources

Ironically the most hated of them is the one who deserves it the least.
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I can't wait to see what twisted punishment Zackley devises for EM.
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>>146923820
That's a really cute EMA.
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>>146923730
Exactly. Any punishment won't be conventional, and Hange isn't a person who'd like to harm them. Besides, the SL is in no shape to reprimanded any of the soldiers they have left. I imagine a punishment would be being in charge of teaching or having their own squad to look after.

>>146923797
>Though a trial with Zackley as the judge would be better fitting. No blind eye for insubordination.
Maybe they can stay some time locked up, while Hange and Levi try to fix everything with the authorities and do the paperwork. I still find it hard to believe to be honest I think they won't be disciplined at all since there are greater matters at hand.
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>>146923843
Too bad they're canonly garbage together.
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>>146923730
Physical punishment is good enough for Eren. Mikasa should be expelled from the special operations squad and/or pass through the academy again.
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>>146923865
>Mikasa should be expelled from the special operations squad and/or pass through the academy again

The problem is that they need Mikasa and they need her in good health. Which ties their hands because EM are fucking infants likely to throw another tantrum if the punishment is too severe for their tastes.
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>>146923861
>I still find it hard to believe to be honest I think they won't be disciplined at all since there are greater matters at hand

Eren and Mikasa aren't needed for planning or smoothing out the mess they've made. They just need to be intact and willing when the time to act comes. Hucking them into a cell is the least effort and keeping them away from Armin while he's being trained would actually be beneficial.
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>>146923865
>Mikasa should be expelled from the special operations squad
Humanity's second strongest soldier? can they really afford that? there's no amount of discipline that can make Mikasa forget about protecting Eren or Armin. It isn't something that is mental, or logical. They are her own insticts and that can't be erased from her.
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>>146923842
Kill Mikasa, give Eren and Armin to the warriors under the guise of trying to form a peace with the more advanced society so they'd stop attacking.

All building up to the big twist where it turns out Zackley is actually Zeke's boss.
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EMA deserve execution.
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I just want the next month issue with the Yumikuri letter already dammit
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>>146923861
They will. Thay's a given. It's sueism if they let it pass, and everyone would be annoyed. It could also be funny, like they walking around Erwin's house and apologizing. Or being the first ones to use Zackley secret machine.
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>>146923983
>there's no amount of discipline that can make Mikasa forget about protecting Eren or Armin

Then you split them. Put Mikasa in charge of a squad, throw Eren under Levi and Armin under Hanji.
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>>146923929
A good dicking will put Mikasa in her place.
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How would you rate this chapter?
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>>146923929
This is severe >>146923730
Making her going through soldier 101 again is reasonable. Don't mean she'll have to go all the four years again though. Just 3 months of private sections with Shadis.
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>>146924171
shit/10, not enough ymir
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>>146924204
>a few weeks separated is too severe

Do you actually think Mikasa is an autist who'll rip out her hair if they're separated a bit? If anything EMA do the most harm when they're together now.
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>>146924070
But think about Levi and Erwin. Levi wanted to kill Erwin, but it all was good because they made a deal. You don't need everyone to need so you have people cooperating with you. Eren and Mikasa are needed because one, Eren is a titan that holds the greatest power in the world and has hardening abilities. Hardening that can help them make more weapons, like the guillotine. And then you have Mikasa who's as skilled as Levi, she could overpower him easily not too long ago. Granted, Levi was worn out but still had enough strenght to punch Eren and send him flying.
They're both precious assets for humanity and they need them.
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>>146923842
Depending on how it goes I might forgive them.
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>>146924293
I won't. The best thing they can do now is go down in flames.
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>>146924255
The end of the post, anon.
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>>146924267
A tool that's broken and harms the user is worse than no tool at all.
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>>146924267
And? A reasonable punishment won't kill nor cripple them. And they do deserve it.
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>>146924378
It hasn't harmed anyone. In the end it was Levi's choice.
Don't be irrational anon. They need Eren's coordinate and they'll probably start experiments to exploit that ability. Same with Armin's titans. They need these three if they want to keep moving forward.

>>146924443
What is a reasonable punishment for you?
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>>146924482
Just because they're valuable doesn't mean they can go unpunished Anon.
I want this >>146924114 because it's likely to do the least harm.
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>>146924482
>It hasn't harmed anyone

Mikasa had a blade to Levi's throat, was prepared to gut Flocke for talking back to her, and nearly broke Hanji's wrist.
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>>146924482
>It hasn't harmed anyone
They harmed Armin more than anyone.
And he's not going to forgive them.
I just hope this breaks EMA and specially EM from A forever.
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>>146924534
I'd like that too, put them in charge of teaching the new recruits if there's fucking any considering 99% are dead.
Hopefully, now that there's no royalty they have to pretend for and they have the support from Zackley the garrison and the MP Hange won't be too busy and will be able to keep doin her experiments while being commander. If that were the case then that could be part of the discipline she wants to give them.
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I'll post it here too because why not.

Where are those anons that claimed Levi choose Armin because "muh ocean" dream now? When it's clear that Levi just wanted Erwin to rest while thinking he still was the better option.
Also everyone else and their mother recognizing Erwin's value and superiority.
We are gonna get a bad end route because of Armin.
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>>146924602
Yeah, that was hard from her part but it was such an stressful situation. Levi did the same to Erwin after he saw Isabel's head, so he probably understands that feelings. I doubt he'll hold it against her. And Hange already looked it over when decided to hug Mikasa instead of fighting her, they all understood it was a mess of a situation and the only choice was logic vs feelings. In the end, Levi's feelings won.
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>>146924482
Dude, they're soldiers. Sasha didn't bitch about running around untill fainting with exaustion. Neither did Eren bitch about being beat up by Levi. They won't start a rebellion because of it. Hanji already confirmed they won't get away with it, and thank god for that.
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>>146924760
>because of Armin

I hate how hard Armin's dick is sucked but it's entirely EML's fault.
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>>146924760
Just retarded Arminfats incapable of realizing that Erwin was better than Shitmin in every way.
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>>146924824
She still harmed someone.
If they can't get her under control they're better off without her.
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>>146924856
This.
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>>146923820
I don't think he will resent Mikasa. She didn't do anything, just cry.
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>>146922026
An undrrground six flags in the basement would have been nice. They just didn't let E&M in cause they were too small.
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>>146924760
Levi's feelings have to do with the fact Erwin's dream wasn't what humanity needed. Levi even reassures him saying pic related. That power that others lack is what made him prefer Armin over Erwin.
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>>146924824
Mikasa even threatened to attack Flocke who is honestly an innocent bystander who is standing by with his superior. How is that not deserving of punishment?
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>>146924482
This >>146923865. Because of this >>146924602
And Eren trying to take the serum by force.
And before you go muh too far two good kicks from Levi is good to go.
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>>146924897
>>146924602

Fuck EMfags are as retarded as their favorites
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>>146924947
Levi should have beaten Eren bloody
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>>146924960
Didn't you see Levi and Hange during this episode? do you thinkt they resent EMA? he supports them.
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>>146924916
Oh, there you are.
There are no dreams involved, retard.
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>>146924923
Only EMA and their desires matter, apparently.
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>>146925037
They are, because it was Erwin's dream what made Levi react and not give him the serum.
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>>146924916
>him prefer Armin over Erwin.
He didn't choose Armin. He made a biased choice and made Erwin to rest. That was put plain and simple.
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If you're an Arminfag that dislikes Bert/Bertfags, then this really was the most golden timeline possible.
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>>146925041
Well that's not only what their fags think but Isayama as well so oh well.
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>>146925094
Put him to rest when he was about to do this. Why?
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>>146925076
It wasn't Erwin's dream. It was the death of it.
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>>146925137
The death? didn't you see what Zackley and co are saying? they should apologize to Erwin and he had the proofs to reveal he and his dad were right all along. Levi killed him before reaching his dream.
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>>146924960
I don't like EM. It is absurd, Armin won't resent Mikasa and Eren because he isn't like that, they didn't make the decision and Levi told him that.
The "fight" will be because of the basement and we all know that. Eren will start to questioned things.
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>>146925136
Because he saw how tangled Erwin was still in his dream.
He wanted the man to finally rest.
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>>146925136
Because because of Kenny's speech he knew Erwin would be dead nevertheless.
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>>146925137

gabdan

doo yoo kno' abood de oshun?
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>>146924824
It's okay when manlet does it, apparently.
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>>146925237
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>>146925306
He's the fan favorite, after all.
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>>146925215
>>146925195
Please, since when does fulfilling your dream means you're dead?
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>>146925306
Manlet wasn't loyal to the SL then though, he left their side because he was going to kill Erwin.
Eren and Mikasa was pure insubordination.
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>the twist is LITERALLY an M Night Shyamalan one
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>>146925381
When it gets you more depressed than excited and it slowly destroys your life but you still have the urge to pursue them.
Like drugs, hence Kenny speech on them.
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>>146925526
After Erwin understood the truth he wouldn't have anything more that could keep him going. He would be "sobber" and would not be capable to keep going.
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>>146925036
Did you not see the post I was quoting retard?
Mikasa did a lot more than cry.
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>>146916196
I AM BEYOND ANGRY RIGHT NOW

WHAT IS THE POINT OF IT ALL IF HUMANS ARE DOING JUST FINE OUTSIDE THE WALL

THIS EXPLAINS NOTHING

FUCKING HACK I HATE THIS SERIES IT'S SO FUCKING SHITTY WHY DID BERT HAVE TO DIE FUCK THIS SHOW I HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT AND WISH I NEVER FOUND OUT ABOUT IT
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>>146925689
And I'm telling you that despite that they Levi and Hange don't resent him.
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>>146925742
Even so, that don't erase the fact they need punishment.
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>>146925122
>that feel when you're stuck in the timeline where Armin got killed by Annie
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>>146925612
You know he discovered the truth when he was 10, don't you?
This would've motivated him even more, to prove his father right, but he had to die because Isayama wants everyone to be murdered.
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>>146925122
Loving every minute of it
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Is before the fall not cannon at all? What the point of it then? Its equivalent to that high school chibi side thing?
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>>146925742
And I'm telling you that just because Levi and Hanji have overlooked their bullshit a little doesn't mean they did nothing wrong. Them having a bad day or being in a stressful situation doesn't mean they did nothing wrong.
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>>146925820
>>146925943

Yes, but they don't need to tell Zackley or anyone about their unsubordination. Hange is commander now, she'll know what to do with them.
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Just look at those lolikasa legs.
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>>146916196
Told you niggas.
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Look, now that we can all agree that SnK has jumped the shark, can we all take a second to step back and identify where it went wrong?

I think a good starting point is the Titan Shifters being scouting legion members, where as before they were just regular titans. This is clearly the point where things went wrong and anyone who disagrees cannot really be taken seriously.
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>>146926078
>where it went wrong?
For me it was the chapter after the kidnapping where they returned to the walls.
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>>146926078
>hey can we take a step back and start a discussion
>however those who disagree with me are stupid
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>>146926078
>Look, now that we can all agree that SnK has jumped the shark, can we all take a second to step back and identify where it went wrong?

I don't think Erwin surviving the clash and political arc helped us any.
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>>146926137
Shush, I'm trying to shitpost, not discuss things seriously.
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>>146916196
You think they have TV too? There was a religious family that fled to siberia when communism was on the rise, and they lived out there for years. However once people found this family, now a few generations in, they were unwilling to accept most of the modern world except for the telly. Actually they were so captured by it that they thought it was evil but they still liked it. I that's a fitting end to all this.
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>>146925971
Just because HL might like them don't mean they have to cover up for their shit. Neither are Zackley or Pixis so stupid they don't get they're hiding it. They fought against a government full of secrecy, so it would be hipocrisy of the to do that.
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>>146926078
Most people name either when Eren was revealed to turn into a titan gee wow way to reject the entire premise, why don't you just say chapter 1 or the political arc, which really was bad since it dragged, sidelined the main cast for most of it, and had a weak resolution outside of the revelations about Grisha.
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>>146926193
Based on the novelty of the term 'photograph' and their manner of dress, I'd say the Outside world technology level is around early 20th century. No further.

Things like airplanes, high explosives, or computers would make most of the Wall Human's defenses utterly untenable, even for a rogue nation.
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>>146926220
Also Flocke. Flocke won't shut up about it.
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>>146926193
Thats because they were stupid religiously about it, not because of the isolation itself. If everyone inside the walls was part of the wall cult then sure, that could happen. But they are mostly regarded as nuts, even if their numbers increased a little after things started going to shit.
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What happens to the Survey Corps now? They'll get more fresh recruits?
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>>146926220
>Neither are Zackley or Pixis so stupid they don't get they're hiding
This is a matter that Hange has to control as she's the commander and said situation didn't put humanity itself at risk, unlike when Eren first became into a titan and it was something unknown and dangerous for everybody.
This
>>146926278
Is the only thing that could spill the secrets. so we have to kill flocke
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>>146926137
For me it was all the kidnapping stuff. Call it shell shock from bad fanfiction but it rubbed me the wrong way.
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>>146926220
>expecting realism in this shounen shit after the Armong ordeal
Anon, EM aren't gonna get the punishment they deserve. They'll probably be assign to cleaning shit or teaching the new recruits.
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>>146926327
It would be retarded and unrealistic for anyone to join them yet again.
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>>146926327
Disbanded.
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>>146926157
best girl is still alive
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>>146926327
Well on one hand 95% of the expedition died, but they had a HUGE victory and finally taking wall maria back is a great way of having flocks of people enlist.
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>>146926344
>so we have to kill flocke

Fuck off Mikasa you sperging cunt
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>>146926421
Not for long.
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>>146926378
>>146926402

Conscription niggas
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>>146926220
Pixis has nothing to say considering, he's not affiliated with the SL and telling Zackley after finding out he's a crazy motherfucker would be a bad idea.
Like it or not, Eren and Mikasa are one of the gamebreakers in the fight against the Titans and risking to put them in danger is a pretty shitty idea. Just keep the SL business inside the SL. The SL Commander needs to deal with them, not Zackley or Pixis.
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>>146926284
Oh man, are they just viewed as religious nuts like with Jonestown instead of unwitting hostages? Actually, Dan Carlin had a HH episode about a whole town that was kind of like that I think. Prophets of Doom. If the rest of the world views them all as brainwashed crazies then that might be a reason to leave them be or fight them.
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>>146926438
Why would anyone get so defensive about it? God's sake, it's like they don't understand army at all.
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>>146926544
>Why would anyone get so defensive about it? God's sake, it's like they don't understand army at all.

I know. Eren and Mikasa ought to grow the fuck up and remember they're soldiers.
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>>146926491
Can't tell if it's Mankasa or Mikasa. But then again there's not much difference.
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The basement confirms that Isayama will involve his political beliefs in the story about separationism.
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>>146926491
Scared, inexperienced, reluctant recuits = mass desertions, insubordinations and failed missions.
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>>146926670
Why do they even need recruits anymore? You judt got a shiny new shifter. Just train him and a handful of elite soldiers should be enough.
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Did they actually patch the hole in wall maria? I dont remember that, werent BR and MT there to prevent it? Didnt they fight to exhaust eren so he coudnt do it?
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>>146926491
That would just prove Zeke right.
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>>146926888
They were there to get Eren and sabotage the SL as best as they could. They actually let Eren seal the hole so that they could split up the SL by sealing the other gate.
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>>146926930
>That would just prove Zeke right.

It won't go as far as Zeke thinks because they know the truth about the world. All they need is one more forming of an army.
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Reminder that RZ can still destroy the walls at will.
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>>146926501
>and risking to put them in danger
Come the fuck on now.
>Of course violating military orders will lead to discipline. Just because you’re willing to accept them, does that mean you can do whatever you want?
Zackley is not a maniac, just has some twisted sense of humor. He's still a imparcial judge. Isayama is the madman that made Armin be gropped, he giving them to Zackley wouldn't be farfertched. And like you or not, they will be severily punished as they deserve.
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>>146926930
Oh yeah Zeke, humanity should be kept inside and not do shit to protect itself while you put titans inside and out the walls!
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>>146927074
>!
The one who put titans outside was the FK.
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>>146916196
HAHAHAA

This is the plot of The Village by M. Night Shyamalan
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>>146927178
No shit, Sherlock.
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>>146925980
Hang yourself you fucking lunatic.
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Just finished reading the new chapter.
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>146923453
Where they left the body? In a random house?
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>>146927521
Oh? So you were actually surprised by it?

Everyone else here are underwhelmed.
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>>146927572
>Everyone else here are underwhelmed.
Well, yeah. It looks like a basement. Any basement. Not _THE_ basement. Oh sure, humanity is well and all but it's still a boring ass basement.
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>>146927619
I'm more annoyed that Erin needed that key. Levi just straight up kicked the door down anyway
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>>146927572
Most people were expecting a time machine.

>>146927552
Yes, and they collected flowers as well.
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Levi and Mikasa will make each other their new liege.
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>>146927674
The key was for the desk though
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>>146920788
Isayama isn't the greatest at drawing babies.
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>>146927674
Didnt u fucking see the key was for the drawer?
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>>146927806
Could have just smash the desk too.
No need for the key honestly
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>>146927572
I was underwhelmed at first by finding some shitty books but dropping that there is a thriving human civilization was a surprise. Is seriously everything around the Walls just part of some bigger walls? Like they are trapped there with the titans while rest of the world just carries on
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Farlan and Isabel.
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>>146927572
Isn't it possible for me to be expecting it and also like it?
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LM soon.
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>>146927940
It's fine, you're entitled to your own opinion, anon. I'm just remarking on the state of this board.
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>>146927674
The key was more symbolic. Like a red thread tied to the finger.
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When will Bert and Erwin be brought back?
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Hey
Any of you fellas seen eren around here?
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>>146927674
Maybe Eren didn't know he could open a door that way.
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>>146928070
>TFW you'll never be Zeke's mule
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>>146927851
If the key didn't open it, be sure the desk would be no more.
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>>146928057
They have passed onto a better place. Outside the matrix.
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>>146928070
He will follow you soon.
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>>146916339
Soon my Armin.
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I miss the warriors already.
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>>146928193
Just like sasuke and orochimaru right
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>>146928057
Erwin's a goner but for Bert as soon as Armin starts losing it.
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>>146928404
>Erwin's a goner
Goddammit.
Why.
It's just not fair.
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Reminder we are LITERALLY getting the Mist ending.

LAME will be the only ones to make it to the "ocean," and after they find out the ultimate tweest they will all agree to kill themselves. Eren agrees to be the last one to do it (or his gun jams or whatever) and that's when the army will come to save the day.
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>>146928404
No way. That will never happen. Bertolt is dead in body and soul and memory. Flashback about him, through Reiner.
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>>146927552
They left him in a random house where citizens looking to rebuild Shiganshina will just bulldoze it over, body inside. Its ridiculous if you think about it.
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>>146928552
>Armin was wide awake when he saw Bert
hmm
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>>146928057
In Isayama's next work, Wall High School AU
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>>146916196

So out of curiosity, the current situation is like the Tuffles and the saiyans in Dragon ball series. The Saiyans were poor savage monkeys, while the Tuffles had a rich economy, better access to technology etc.
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>>146928590
>What is hallucinating after having a traumatic experience
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>>146928590
He was wide awake when he saw Mikasa and heard Sasha. That was just the colossal evaporating, he is gone,
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>>146928600
>Isayama makes a high school au after snk finishes just like Nihei did with BLAME!
Holy shit I'd love the shit out of that
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What if Reiner's mental stabilty devolves to the point where he starts seeing apparitions of Bert and Marcel?
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>>146928531
There were still some survivors.
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>>146927017
>RZ can still destroy the walls at will.

Doubtful. There's a reason the CT was needed to breach the outer wall (at its weakest point), while AT has only been shown to be able to destroy an inner (manmade) gate. And MT probably couldn't even do either. Not to mention Zeke literally shits his pants at the mere thought of the manlet shrekting his shit again, I doubt they're going to be a threat to the walls for at least another few months.

The SL will reform and go on the offensive for this final arc- they've been playing defense this entire time, to do so again would be way too boring for the series' conclusion.
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>>146927521
Tail's gets trolled is sick
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>>146928697
who is marcel
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>>146928627

Somewhat.
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>>146928697
I'd take it. Reiner can't possibly win a fight so he better entertain us with lunacy instead.
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>>146928717
Zewe BTFO
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>>146925237
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>>146928697
That's the starting point to become a mindless titan. We still have to witness coordinate shenanigans.
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>>146928717
I'm sure you meant destroy the wall in an instant. RZ can still do it even if it takes hours.
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>>146928886
This still triggers me
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>>146928944
>RZ can still do it even if it takes hours.
They'd be blown the fuck out by Levi and co.
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>>146928944
If they're going to spend hours and hours chipping away at the wall, they'd be much better off using that time infiltrating the capital as humans then transforming and just going full ham on everything around them in their titan forms. It'd be a way more efficient use of their time.
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>>146927932
>Never mentioned in the manga
>Poorly developed in the three versions of the spin-off
Isayama a hack
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ERWIN GEE I THINK YOU'RE SWELL
AND YOU REALLY DO ME WELL
YOU'RE MY PRIDE AND JOY ETC.
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>>146929029
Levi and co. aren't there anymore.
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>>146928713
>implying there will be any survivors at all inside the walls after wall titans start walking

I can MAYBE see Annie and/or Reiner making it.
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>>146928552
I await with clear excitement the moment Bert's memories start to chip away Armin's sanity.
And Eren and Mikasa to witness it and feel useless not being able to help him.
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>>146929113
Annie will wake up from her crystal 2000 years into the future as a museum exihibit from the time there were titans.
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>>146929122
Which makes me wonder if the memories erased from Eren isn't what made him go nuts, since he can't have peace sleeping.
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>>146927388
Calm down anon, everybody else gets their little bit of service in the manga, I'm just enjoying mine.
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>>146929122
Come on. I know some people hate Armin but this is too much. He will be fine, maybe he will remember how he died but nothing more. It won't happen.
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>>146929228
>he can't have peace sleeping
That's not true. Eren was like that since he was a child and killed those men.
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>>146929204
She'll be used as a preserved DNA source for the creation of "Titanic Park".
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>>146929273
You know this story is not going to end well.
And Armin will be the first to fall.
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>>146929122
I hope this happens.
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>>146929322
He has those dreams even before receiving the coordinate, as confirmed on chapter one.
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>>146929322
To be honest, he seemed to be a bit fucked in the head even before he killed those men. Not every 9 year old boy stabs a random guy 20 times with a small knife, and even when he dad found him, he had a crazy look on his face saying something about killing pigs or dogs or something.
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>>146929272
Go to /b/ or something where your kind belong
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>>146929368
I really think this will be the case. Isayama likes to create the sensation of fake security.
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>>146929368
The story is not going to end well but it also not going to end bad. It will be bittersweet. The only thing I know is that Armin won't be able to see the ocean and that's enough "punishment" for a person who gave his life for his friends and was told that he will carry with the death of the commander.
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Armin is my waifu.
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>>146929401
Yeah but that was before Grisha injected him, that's part of his personality.

>>146929391
Well but I think those are a premonitory dreams. At least Grisha was injecting him since he was a baby.
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Mikasa was suicidal when she thought Eren died. She had renewed will to keep living only because Eren himself told her in the past to ‘live!’ and ‘fight!’. So she did.

Then there’s Kenny. When Rod told him only a Reiss could inherit Uri’s memories, you can literally see the exact moment it dawns on Kenny and his face darkens. It never occurred to me the first time I read that, but that was the very moment Kenny lost his will to live, and it’s illustrated so clearly on-panel.

So the same is happening for Levi right now, with his vow to Erwin being his only drive. Logic says he will embrace death like his fellow Ackermans, but I wonder if Isayama has the balls lol
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I have just read a creepy mpreg fanfiction and would like something to cleanse the horrific images from my mind.
Post cute Shingekis!
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>>146929633
>his personality
That's my point. Eren is just naturally fucked mentally from birth.
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>>146929449
Feeling triggered?
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>>146929368
>Isayama
>killing off his golden boy
Anon...
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>>146929401
He said that people on the walls live like pigs but he didn't say he wanted to kill them. Eren find them repulsive for being conformists.
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Eren is a psychopath that cannot be trusted with the Coordinate.
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>>146929750
Fuck off
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>>146929529
Armin is a nice guyâ„¢.
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>>146929693
Kenny clearly states all he wanted was power.

And Mikasa wanted to live because she wouldn't remember him anymore, not that he told her to fight.

Levi wants to save humanity by killing all the titans and be free.
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>>146929693
>a lot of reaching

This entire concept of Ackerman "imprinting" is fanon. Mikasa feels strongly about the boy who saved her life AND avenged her parents for her AND then welcomed her into his family. Kenny wasn't even particularly enamored with or loyal to Uri (who he had initially tried to kill), he was just doing what he wanted to do. And if Levi couldn't live without Erwin, he would have injected him with the serum.
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>>146929693
Mikasa wasn't suicidal, she had no gas and two titans were coming to her. She was going to die in some way or another but she decided to fight until the end. That's different.
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>>146929797
He probably won't kill him, not until the very end at least, but be sure Armin's gonna suffer.
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>>146925873
C U T E
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>>146929925
This.

Isayama clearly states even that Ackermans just have a boss who they so grunt work for.
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>>146929633
>premonitory dreams.
It's erased memory. Isayam proved thrice he don't do red herrings.
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>>146929901
>Kenny clearly states all he wanted was power.
If he only wanted power, he would've injected himself.
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>>146929890
Anon... do you think he is worse than the others? Hange wanted revenge for Nick, Levi is crazy and rough, Jean wanted to stab his squad leader, Mikasa killed men, Eren killed men when he was 9, etc. At least Armin sacrificed his life for his friends.
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>>146929890
Bad character, poorly written, untrustworthy due to constantly switching personality traits, other characters get stupid around him so he appears smart, command over a small squad =/= SL Commander potential, doesn't die from scald burns and a massive fall, has the fucking colossal titan living in his brain, etc. He's just a bad character in general.
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>>146929797
His golden boy is Levi.
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>>146929082
I can't believe Levi's former squad is more prominent than them. They were Levi's family after all.
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>>146929585
Fight me
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>>146930042
>Jean wanted to stab his squad leader

Jean was speaking out of turn. This is the same person who later shook like a leaf after shooting some people in the joints.
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>>146929814
Reiner did said that eren should be the last person to have the coordinate.
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>>146930069
Like clockwork.
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>>146916196
This picture is from before Grisha left for the walls, right? So how old is it?
Because I wonder how powerful the outside world can be in the current time if the best they can send to recover the oh-so-precious coordinate are three kids and a monkey.
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>>146929955
>but be sure Armin's gonna suffer
That's what you want. He already suffer enough when he was burned alive. Now he has to carry with the life of the commander.
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>>146930036
Instead his heart grew three sizes that day and decided it should go to his nephew.

But seriously, he found out he couldn't unlock the coordinates power and become the true king. That's what really ruined him.
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>>146930069
At least you edited your pasta to have new info. It's still shit.
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>>146930081
If that were the case then Levi would have injected himself.
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>>146930113
Armin also was speaking out of turn. The government was planning to hang all of them. It was a desperate proposal but doesn't mean he wanted to do it.
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>>146916196
Dude looks like Bert.
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>>146928697
probably because sometimes his hobby is destroy his head
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>>146930069
Switching personality traits? no, he isn't predictable and he thinks depending of the situation. He also uses Erwin and Hanji as inspiration.
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>>146930133
Yes, at least 20 years.

>>146930144
Everyone's gonna suffer, m8. That's the fucking point.
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>>146929934
She went out of gas in the first place because she was suicidal, only after she decided she wanted to live again.
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>>146930069
>poorly written
HOW
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>>146930144
You know he is gonna break mentally, don't you? The complex he has on top of survivor's guilt, Bert's memories, etc.
He's going to become extremely coldsteel edgy and probably he'll have to be put down in the long run.
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>>146929934
>Mikasa wasn't suicidal
She stated she gave up her will to live.
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>>146930069
This.
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>>146930151
What people who think Kenny was "devoted" to Uri are missing (aside from actually reading the manga) is that Kenny was only interested in the way that Uri's perspective on the world was so unique. He wanted to see the view from the top, "the world that Uri saw", and wanted his power. If he knew for a fact that he could gain that power by sawing Uri's head off, he'd almost certainly have done it. He had virtually no loyalty to the man himself, and was generally so amoral as fuck that concepts like "friendship" meant fuck-all to him.
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>>146930323
>scared, brave, weak, strong, intelligent, murderous, deceitful, honest
Yeah he's consistent as fuck

>>146930372
NIGGER READ THE MANGA
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>>146930069
This!
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>>146930363
She was acting impulsive and didn't notice the gas. That wasn't her intention. She wanted to fight until the end, she only had one blade and there were two titans.
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>>146929585
DELET THIS
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>/snk/ is actually having discussion instead of endless shipposting
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>>146930201
Because they're rebelling themselves. And Armin's idea of getting back at them is killing civilians. Thank god for Erwin and Pixis.
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>>146930443
>NIGGER READ THE MANGA
Great answer idiot.
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>>146929814
reiner said bcuz eren is grisha son
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>>146929925
Sure but guidebook says otherwise, or more simply, it contradicts Isayama, or it puts the concepts in a really vague point. Kenny decided to follow Uri, but never seemed to be against him letting be eaten by Frieda. As much as Levi wasn't obssesed with keeping Erwin alive no matter what. We still need to see how's Mikasa's way of thinking.
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>>146930488
If you haven't read the literal hundreds of posts in relation to the pasta post, that's not my fault. Pull your thumb out of your ass and do the leg work, I'm not here to make you feel included in the conversation.
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>>146930472
>thread is shit
>complains about it not being suitable for discussion
>thread is decent
>remarks that its decent and whines about shitposting instead of contributing to discussion

Fucking metafags.
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>>146930381
>Bert's memories
That's not even a fact. He didn't remember Bertolt, Armin never saw the colossal titan crying, it wasn't a memory.

>You know he is gonna break mentally, don't you?
No, that's something you are assuming but doesn't mean it will happen. Eren didn't lose his mind when he remembered that he ate his father. Yeah, he wanted to end his life but Bertolt wasn't an important person to Armin.
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>>146930407
I wouldn't say he wasn't loyal, they were definitely friends. Kenny even wanted to protect his memory when Rod was shit talking him.

But yeah that's what his flashback chapter was talking about, he was honestly curious and wanted to know how it felt to be at the very top looking down at everyone. He wanted to know if he would be the same way as the "monster" the Reiss keep passing down. And when he realized he could never have this ultimate power of being God, he just gave up.
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>>146929750
Mikasa was so cute as a child. I think it would be nice to have her be a qt genki once more. If only Eren gave a shit about making her smile.
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>>146930450
She seemed highly depressive to me, both before and after the gas ran out. She may not actually have suicidal in her mind intentionaly, but she def had lost her will to live and tryed to ignore it by taking action.
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>>146930069
I don't want to agree, but I kinda have to. Could we not have just kept Eren as being important?
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>>146930069
>implying all character of Hisayama aren´t poorly written
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>>146930518
>guidebook

I'd always take the direct words of Isayama or the content of the manga over some third-party guidebook. Isayama is way too busy to be combing over those things before they get pushed out- at best, one of his editors gives it a quick once-over but I'd be doubtful even that much gets done, frankly.
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>>146930618
>If only Eren gave a shit about making her smile.
That guy doesn't want to make her smile.

>>146930646
There's degrees of separation. Armong is the special type of bad.
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>>146930604
There are many ways of protecting someone. Some people think only the body is enough, some other people think the ideals and will are the most important. Who knows with Kenny. Him letting Uri die is not a sign he didn't care for him or his cause.
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calling it now that the next chapter continues with the letter saying how life used to be luxurious for humans before some titan shit happened
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>>146930578
You're an idiot that wouldn't know what a multi dimensional and well executed character was even if it were presented perfectly in the manga.
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>>146916196
How much this pic changed your life?
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>>146930685
>That guy doesn't want to make her smile.
It is just not one of his priorities unfortunately. He seems to dismiss Mikasa as someone who can look after herself and leaves it at that, but Mikasa definitely needs her kokoro to be looked after.
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>>146930443
Armin never saw a titan and he was terrified when his group was killed but then he overcame those emotions. He is an strategist so he acts depending of the situation, I already said that. He isn't predictable and doesn't think about himself.
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>>146930717
yeah show one then
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>>146930646
Actually there are only two obvious poorly written characters, Armin and Mikasa. Levi is a deus ex machina.
The rest are decent.
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Calling it now: The kingdom is on an island and Eren/Armin/Mikasa will have a story arc where they have to cross the ocean to get to the human world.
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>>146930675
And I am here telling you guidebook is an official source. I question it, but it is there to show how Isayama fell short about explaining his characters and world building, so many things would remain ambigous.
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>>146930485
The MP was killing innocent solidiers. They were rebelling themselves but Armin and the others were following orders to kill people too.
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>>146930675
The guidebook is literally made from interviews with Isayama.
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>>146930748
Are you retarded
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>>146930604
>they were definitely friends

I'd be inclined to agree, but with the caveat that the concept of "friendship" itself probably meant significantly different things to each of them, and had vastly different weight and meaning to them. Again, I can't imagine for a second that Kenny wouldn't have gruesomely murdered Uri in a heartbeat if he thought that doing so would give him what he wanted- the power and the view from on top.
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>>146930646
Only EMA are truly poorly written.
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>>146930780
Here.
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>>146930717
>Armin
>multi dimensional
Good joke. Stop slinging buzz words and look at things objectively. Also >>146930578

>>146930757
You do know that was the pyscho we're talking about?

>>146930778
>he overcame those emotions.
HE FUCKING SHUT DOWN AND NEARLY STROKED OUT IN THE GAS CHAMBER, THEN HAD OTHERS DO THE WORK.
His lack of predictability is developed in chunks instead of being moment-to-moment. He only develops when the plot dictates, and that's shit.
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Did the Reiss families kill all the Asians and Ackermans or are there still of them living outside the walls
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>>146930834
Kill yourself
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>>146930790
And that would be the moment when I drop the manga.
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>>146930601
>Armin never saw the colossal titan crying, it wasn't a memory.
Ok, then Bert's feelings will eat him. Armin is more emotional fragile than Eren, he was friends with Bert and idolized Erwin.
He is not going to be fine, not even one bit.
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>>146930790
Its all good since titan bodies are super light and shit. They just use eren as a boat. I can already picture armin, mikasa and levi singing "row row row your boat gently down the stream"
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>>146930790
>yfw they will have to get on a boat to get there
>have to get on a boat
>get on a boat
>boat
We are gonna be there for 10 years.
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>>146930849
Kenny considered Uri a friend. Remember he got mad at Rod for insulting Uri.
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>>146930882
Nah only the negro slaves probably
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Will Eren be the first mainstream homosexual shonen protagonist? Since he is clearly more interested in Armin than Mikasa or any other girls.
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>>146930872
>ocean blah blah blah
Armin is the shittiest written character in this manga I'm not even joking.
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>>146930628
Mikasa said she was careless because she didn't notice the gas. I don't think she wanted that to happen, Armin said she was acting impulsive.
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>>146930781
And Erwin is a masterpiece.
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So in the end that key was completely worthless.
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>>146930717
Armin is not multidimensional neither well executed. He is following the asspull chejov lazy writing. Is not a mistake, but mostly a crime against decent writing.
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>>146930861
This but it shouldn't be surprise since most main characters in different series are poorly written.
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>>146930885
So you are.
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>>146930880
Explain how he's poorly written then. He's not your generic meek coward. He has a set of goals and abilities that have helped move the plot forward. He's not full of himself and he accepts his mistakes. He's a character with a good set of strengths and flaws.

>>146930952
Oh, so just because he's passionate about his dream that means he's badly written?
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>>146930757
>Mikasa definitely needs her kokoro to be looked after.
Well, Armin cares for her. More than Eren.
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>>146930831
Not quite. It -features- interviews with him, but most of what's in there (bullshit numerical statistics, most of the extrapolations and assumptions in the character sections, etc) is at best derived and at worst patently pulled out of thin air from the guidebook's writers. Isayama has flat-out contradicted things in the guidebooks before, so if you're putting things on a continuum in terms of canonical information I'd go with:

Direct words from Isayama >> Manga >>>> Guidebook content >>>>>>>> all other SnK-related content
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>>146930979
>speedreaders
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>>146930962
>tfw Mikasa was a better soldier at the beginning of the manga than she is now
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>>146930962
Dude, she literally says she was careless with her life (suicidal) forgetting her duty (survive, kill titans) because of personal reasons (eren dead), i dont know how that can be more clear.
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>>146931015
He does, but not in the way she wants Eren to care for her kokoro.
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>>146931014
Like I said, we've done that before. At length. I'm not doing it again. You can go find it easily, you have the source pasta.
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>>146930979
Go reread the chapter
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>>146931014
>because he's passionate about his dream that means he's badly written?
That's an annoying aspect about it. He's the cliche smarty pants who points out the obvious and gets all the credit for it.
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>>146930979
I suppose they could've just broken open the drawer, so yeah, you're probably right. Then again, unless you've got acid traps rigged up or you set the whole place to explode if the right key isn't used, you can't really expect a whole lot from some dumb brass key.
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>>146931086
Good talks, but I hate you because I can't see him the same anymore. I actually saved the copy/pasta to use myself. Though you have best choice in best girl.
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>>146930685
well Armong is shifter now he can be bettered... but probably not
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>>146930935
It was said that Reiss nobles purged Asians and Ackermans because they were immune to brainwashing. Could be because they are part of the outer world race.
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>>146931161
That's what I'm hoping for.
See >>146923397
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>>146930880
He sucks at fighting and don't you remember? Eren was acting stupidly and lost his leg and the others were acting impulsive as well saying "we should have a match of who kill more titans". No, you see Armin like that but I think you can't know how he is going to react because of his lack of self esteem.
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>>146930989
Of course he is. Despite being a coward he does whatever he can to help. He's there to support, inquire and resolve. Ultimately he sacrificed his life so his friends could live, despite being the only one to have a determined goal. He has killed people, felt awful about it, and then
come to terms with it. He's quite complex, actually.

>>146931119
Annoying aspect =/= badly written character.

>He's the cliche smarty pants who points out the obvious and gets all the credit for it.
>Inb4 m-muh 3 cups!
Annie being the female titan wasn't obvious.
Bert noticing Annie wasn't obvious.
Reiner hiding inside the walls wasn't obvious.
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>>146930974
Too right!
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>>146930518
How does the guidebook say otherwise of what that anon just said?
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>>146931030
The second guidebook is Isayama contradicting the Isayama who writes the manga. I don't like it but is there. Just deal with it. Ackerman topic is poorly and bad developed, and I am guessing the reason of this contradiction is because there is going to be some special trait from the "Asian" heritage.
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>>146930906
>Bert's feelings
Armin isn't a Reiss. He won't gain anything about Bertolt. Can't you understand? Yeah, it is possible that he will be depressed and everything but it is understandable.
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>>146931200
I wonder what race Ackerman are. Maybe they're Jews.
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>>146931035
>>146931094
They could smash that table too you dumbasses.

That key would be usefull if that secret place would be behind steel wall with some unpickable mechanism or >>146931134.
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>>146931200
>purged Asians and Ackermans because they were immune to brainwashing.
No, they were purged because they were against the FK long term plans. There are many families inmune to mindwiping.
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>>146931225
Where is the complexity when those are just convenient words that only come to play in an exact moment. That's shitty development.
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>>146931315
>They could smash that table too you dumbasses.
>Because there was a brute force alternative the key is now worthless

Fuck off
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>>146931058
That's not being suicidal, it was an oversight. Mikasa is like that, she hasn't got willpower.
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>>146923237
cute.
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>>146931316
Not him, but I agree, I think it was mentioned that they were both immune to brainwashing.
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>>146931225
Are you retarded? I said it's an annoying aspect, not the reason he's bad written. Being repetitive is also shit writing.

>Annie being the female titan wasn't obvious.
>Bert noticing Annie wasn't obvious.
>Reiner hiding inside the walls wasn't obvious
It was pushed writing to make him look smart. How was he so sure Reiner wasn't hiding inside a house? Bullshit.
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>>146931212
>He sucks at fighting
That doesn't mean he needs to be a bad character, nor does it mean he needs to shit his innards, out.

>Eren was acting stupidly and lost his leg and the others were acting impulsive as well saying "we should have a match of who kill more titans".
Irrelevant to the character.

>you can't know how he is going to react because of his lack of self esteem
His reaction should be written in by way of moment-to-moment development. In the same way we all knew Eren would spud out when Reiner and Bert are revealed to be Titans, or how we all knew that Mikasa was going to jump Levi. We know this because they are developed as each moment passes. Armin gets it in chunks. Which is shit.
Self Esteem issues were never developed. We were just told about them, and left to assume what it meant for ourselves. Which is shit.
I'm not going on, because we've all been over this.
You can like Armin. Nothing wrong with that. But liking him, doesn't make him good.
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>>146930951
that is Naruto
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>>146931358
>she hasn't got willpower
D-don't be mean anon, she is pretty determined most of the time. It is only understandable that in a time of great distress her willpower would waver.
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>>146931205
Why the fuck is Armong impersonating Reiner?
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>>146931380
>It was pushed writing to make him look smart. How was he so sure Reiner wasn't hiding inside a house?
THIS.
ARMIN PROXIMITY RETARDATION AND POOR CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT = FATHOMLESS ASSPULLS.
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>>146931349
It's certainly not worth the importance that was given to it during all these years.
>inb4 symbolic shit
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>>146931329
The whole manga is full of convenient moments and it is not only Armin. Shits like Sasha finding the bow and arrows in the right moment, Eren finding the armour serum in the right moment, Levi killing 5 titans with only two blades. Come on, analize the big picture.
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>>146931442
Exactly.
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>>146931329
>>146931380
>only come to play in an exact moment.
Then all misteries would've been resolved right away as soon as they appeared. Setting a trap for Aninie would've have been necessary, nor trying to figure out a way to make Bert snap or look for Reiner inside of the walls after they reached the walls. But no, they needed to think about it and study the situation, it's not anybody's fault Armin's got amazing observational skills and can notice things most people don't.
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So the people behind the walls are living like the saiyans in a primitive fashion and the people beyond the walls are living like the tuffles with technology and other mid modern day resources
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>>146931380
>Reiner hiding inside the walls wasn't obvious
It was obvious to you? He thought about it because there are hidden titans within the walls.
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>>146931279
Then what was that crying colossal that he saw? Hallucination? I don't think so.
He never heard Bert saying "it hurts", he never saw the colossal crying and, by the time he sees it, he doesn't know he ate Bert or that he is dead.
How do you explain that in other way that those weren't Bert's feelings inside Armin?
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Real talk.

What would Levi and Sasha's married life be like?
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>>146931442
Tbh, what would make more sense really is Reiner waiting in a house untill the horses were close so he could finish them in a second. His part of the mission was this from the start. So why the fuck would he be on the wall where they can't reach?
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>>146931532
or they just like those cosplay family photos
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>>146931578
Nonexistent is the best word that comes to mind when I think of their marriage.
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>>146931467
>Shits like Sasha finding the bow and arrows in the right moment
Because finding a bow and arrow in a village of hunters is hard.

>Eren finding the armour serum in the right moment
Because finding a serum in a bag full of serums is hard. Note: the bag was there because of Rod, not for Erens convenience.

>Levi killing 5 titans with only two blades
Not even that odd. Dulled blades =/= broken/blunt blades.

>Come on, analize the big picture.
Yeah you should try it.

>>146931545
>He thought about it because there are hidden titans within the walls.
Despite the fact that Mikasa made eye contact with one, and Hanji was the one who helped cover it and lead up the investigation.
He had no reason to assume they were in the walls outside of Isayama wanting him to be important.

>>146931582
All Reiner needed to do was hide under a fucking rock.
The scouts entered, sealed the wall, and regrouped atop the walls. The chances of him being discovered are minuscule.
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>>146931571
>In dreams you can't see things that you didn't see IRL
It's like you've never dreamed
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>>146931571
I've say this before. It's just like Eren and Historia's dreams, when they can't remember nothing afterwards.
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>>146931403
>His reaction should be written in by way of moment-to-moment development
That's exactly what he does. He fails, he retreats, tells Jean to be in charge. Then he sacrifices his life and decides to not tell Mikasa and Jean anything. That's all because of his lack of self esteem and self confidence. If you see him considering this, you understand Armin will think on others first and you can't predict what he is going to do with his life. I don't like him because he is good but I try to understand him.
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Why did Reiner hide in the walls anyway? It would be impossible for him to see anything that was going on outside.
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>>146931380
>Annie being the female titan wasn't obvious.
It was though, to whoever knew her. She was easily recognizable by looks alone.
I give this a pass because Armin was the only one who had time to look at her directly.
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>>146931514
>it's not anybody's fault Armin's got amazing observational skills
Is Isayama's fault. One character to find all the answers is not necessary unless you want to write detective novels.
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>>146931366
indeed
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>>146930781
>being delusional
isayama killed erwin, i don't be surprised if he screwed up hue hue hue
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>>146918057
>Because the outside world wants them dead.
This is the next big question
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>>146931571
Sasha was saying "it hurts". I explain this as the death of the colossal. He was dissapearing and was crying for that. Once he was eaten by Armin, the colossal will dissapear and a new titan will form.
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>>146931730
Bullshit. Moment to moment means chapter to chapter, page to page, panel to panel and frame to frame. Not chapters apart, when the author calls for it.

> Then he sacrifices his life and decides to not tell Mikasa and Jean anything.
I've never denied that this was brave.

>That's all because of his lack of self esteem and self confidence.
Again, bullshit. He doesn't tell them because they would object to the plan of his sacrifice. For someone defending Armin, you don't understand his actions very well.
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>>146931737
It don't makes any sense.
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>>146931738
>was the only one
He wasn't. Eren and Mikasa did.
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>>146931693
>>146931698
And why would he specifically dream about the colossal crying in pain? He wasn't subject of brainwashing like Historia or coordinate memories like Eren.
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>>146931571
I think it was supposed to be some sort of meaningful moment.
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>>146931683
Come on anon. The bow and arrow were behind Sasha and the armour was on Eren's foot. It happened like that just for Eren to develop confidence (and to save Sasha from death).

>Despite the fact that Mikasa made eye contact with one, and Hanji was the one who helped cover it and lead up the investigation.
But Mikasa wasn't with him. Hange and the others were protecting Eren.
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>>146916196
LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH

EVERYTIME I DO IT MAKES ME LAUGH
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>>146931928
Because Bert is a part of him now. IE he still will haunt Armin's dreams. Like Eren's dream girl.
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>>146931682
That's very mean anon.
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>>146931962
>The bow and arrow were behind Sasha
In a village of hunters. Which was established long ago as where she was from. This isn't a convenience, this is established information in-canon

>the armour was on Eren's foot
Placement is irrelvent, the fact remains that the serum wasn't there for Eren. It was simply in Rods bag. It happened like that for Eren to develop, nobody denies that because it's true. But the narrative up to that point was consistantly developing Erens character, so this was a natural evolution of the plot. It wasn't a case of, "OH FUCK THEIR IN THE WALL"
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>>146931833
There's not too much time to develop all the characters and Isayama only focus on Eren, Levi and Historia, at least in the past arc.

>Again, bullshit. He doesn't tell them because they would object to the plan of his sacrifice. For someone defending Armin, you don't understand his actions very well.
Exactly for that he didn't tell them but also because he wanted to prove himself. He commited a mistake with Bertolt and felt like shit. I think he wanted to redeem his mistake as well. That's how Armin thinks and I hate that part of his self.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIlNIVXpIns
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>>146932036
>Armin transforms into a titan
>CT takes over him
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>>146932101
Your sense of humor is retarded.
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>>146932092
There would have been time had Sasha died like she was supposed to. Connie could have been killed off too. Thus leaving space for proper development. This is a clear example of author bias and poor writing.

> he wanted to prove himself.
He wanted to prove himself, to himself. The action was selfish, albeit brave.

>He committed a mistake with Bertolt and felt like shit. I think he wanted to redeem his mistake as well.
I don't follow.
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>>146932085
You say it yourself. The manga is full of that, that's how you tell a story, even if Isayama isn't that great sometimes and it feels forced.
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>>146932142
Armin probably won't turn into a titan at all or at least he won't be able to do it for a long time.
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>>146932225
>The manga is full of that, that's how you tell a story, even if Isayama isn't that great sometimes and it feels forced.
And that's what makes bad characters, worse.
Glad we agree.
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>>146932036
You are assuming that and that never happened with any other shifter. Get over it, if Armin feels bad it will be because of his guilt, nothing more.
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>>146932235
I can't even imagine him as a titan shifter. I imagine him crying and whining when he has to hurt himself to transform.
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>>146932316
>fetal titan position
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>>146931928
Guilt? The colossal was evaporating and he was disappearing. It was his end and he was crying for that. The colossal is dead. You will see more about Bertolt through Reiner.
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>>146932185

So xhe fits fight into /snk/.
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>>146932213
Armin's death would've helped a lot with Eren's and Mikasa's development.
Like Eren's death helped Mikasa's and Armin's, at least for 5 min, then alk the development went to shit.
Mikasa's death would've been irrelevant to everybody.
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>>146932213
Come on, it wasn't selfish at all. He wanted to protect Mikasa, Jean and the rest as well.

>I don't follow.
That's your problem.
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>>146932286
>any other shifter.
[citation needed].
Also citing the time Eren lost his mind remembering the day he eat Grisha almost turning one with the titan. And the time something that wasn't Eren was in control of RT.
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How come Papa Ackerman and Kuchel were such shit Ackermen?
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>>146932564
Why?
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>>146932433
Proving himself, to himself, is selfish by definition.
"Selfish~Adj- concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure."
The crux being his selfish act of self improvement had intrinsic benefits for MJ.

>That's your problem.
No, it's your awful sentence structure that's the problem.
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>No cure for coordinate cancer in the basement
Guess Eren is doomed after all. Unless the more advanced medicine and technology in the village can save him.
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>>146932564
Because Gunther was the nice guy Beta.
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>>146932225
That's the point. Just because we are aware of the writing mistakes doesn't mean we should ignore them. Armin was meant to be the weak but well willed boy who meets with an unexpected consequence. But the way Isayama developed him has been poor and forced. That's why is hard to empathise with Armin. Nobody buys his conflicts or his intelligence because he doesn't stand out from others, but he turns others into idiots or less important so he can shine. Is Isayama's mistake and that's why so many here don't like the way he has been written.
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>Proving himself, to himself, is selfish by definition.
>"Selfish~Adj- concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure."
>The crux being his selfish act of self improvement had intrinsic benefits for MJ.

I've been trying to find a way to word this for ages and you just come along and throw it out there.
Godspeed mr semantics
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>>146932674
All the wall people are doomed to cancer considering they're using literal radiation as a source of light.
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Eren is so perfect.

His skin, flawless because of his healing abilities, makes me want to run my hands across it. His chest, muscular but not overly so, makes me want to palm at it, rock hard under my hands. His hair, smooth and brown, makes my fingers twitch, eager to reach over and bury them in it.

I love Eren.
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>>146932791
Zeke pls

Otoutos are for loving from a distance
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>>146932791
Slutanon go away pls.
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>>146932774
>they're using literal radiation as a source of light.
Hurrrrr all radiation is bad
Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrr slow release of stored energy is bad
Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr how do I Bioluminescence
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>>146932791
This post proves that SnK threads are literally tumblr.
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>>146932564
Kuchel was amazing because she gave birth to lovely Levi!
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>>146932852
I am only a slut for Eren.
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>>146932791
Shit taste, Zeke. You had four cute warriors all to yourself and wasted them all.
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>>146932791
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Armin is fucking terrible. Everything about his character is repulsive, from his design to the way Isayama puts him on a pedestal. He gets everything handed to him and even got a second chance at life even though an Ackerman died with less injury than he received.
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>>146932867
Displacementfag please leave. We don't need someone else coming here purely to shit on idiots. They do that enough on tumblr.
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>>146932867
Okay anon, don't act so surprised if everyone in the manga starts getting sick for some reason.
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>>146932880
It's just that Slutty faggot
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>>146932827
Will Zeke ever get to ruffle Eren's hair?
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>>146932923
And what will you do about that?
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snk is shit
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>>146932645
That look that he gave to Mikasa when she asked him if he realized something tells me that Armin wanted to save them as well. His sacrifice was his way of saving everyone and also prove his own courage. Some people can't understand that a person is also submit with more than two emotions at the same time.
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>>146932922
But that's forbidden love
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>>146932774
Meh, it's really going to turn out that the humans who retired inside the walls are just hippies who wanted to live in a world with no technology, isn't it?
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>>146932922
This is true.
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>>146932955
>Next is cancer arc
>Why is everybody getting sick?
>Probably someone is trying to control their minds!
>No! Is cancer!
>We need to eat shifters to cure!
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>>146932955
Informed observation vs Muh conspiracy.
Prepare to be disappointed.

>>146933004
>That look that he gave to Mikasa when she asked him if he realized something tells me that Armin wanted to save them as well. His sacrifice was his way of saving everyone and also prove his own courage.
You're just repeating what I said.

>Some people can't understand that a person is also submit with more than two emotions at the same time.
That doesn't even mean anything.
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>>146932922
This picture makes me so uncomfortable but also arouses me
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>>146933070
I don't see this as a viable solution, unless they're going to put Eren in a huge cauldron to make a giant shifter soup for everyone.
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>>146933070
If all the townspeople start getting really sick I can see it being another blow to the SL's credibility. They will eventually find out it was the source of light they gave them and blame SL for everything. And at that point it will be even more difficult for them to get new members.
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>>146933079
It means something. He is not selfish if he is also thinking about saving/protecting Mikasa and the others.
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>>146932923
This. Armong a shit.
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>>146932791
Mikasa or Historia pls, Eren a shit
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>>146932707
I agree but I don't think Armin makes other characters look dumb, at all. He is inspired by most of them and he is always behind when the others are fighting.
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>>146933395
So far he is the only character that has been in the right place at the right time EVERY SINGLE TIME.
One is a coincidence, more than that is a trend. It was ok at first, now is annoying as hell.
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>>146933384
Eren is the best thing to ever exist.
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Next chapter will be interesting as fuck. Basically all the basement content. 3 whole books explaining all what Grisha knows.
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>>146933585
Unfortunately half of it will probably be more Armin crying
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>>146933619
Let's hope not.
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>>146933232
>He is not selfish
I didn't say he was selfish, I said that this specific action was selfish.
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>>146933499
That doesn't make other characters look dumb. That's the only thing Armin do. Yeah, Isayama is overwhelming him with too much and it's sad for the people who like him.
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>>146933585
This and Armin will find out he has a Bert tulpa

Something shocking has to happen for the last chapter of the volume
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>>146933672
Kind of I suppose but he also wanted to protect the others giving his life.
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How do you guys think Historia will react to see that Eren, her boyfriend, has returned to her alive?
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>>146933741
>EAr will not be bff forever
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>>146933779
She's married to Flegel for economical union.
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>>146933779
She will hook him in the gabber and instantly tear the letter out of Hans's hands.

Ymir is all that matters to her.
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>>146933808
Eren will go to the warrior village. So obvious.
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>>146933779
Kek.
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>>146933619
Sadly for you, he didn't cry.
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>>146933779
I'm afraid that she'll go Hysteria again once she sees the letter.
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>>146933779
She will tell him that she is pregnant, then Eren will run away to Zeke's to escape from the responsability
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>>146933585
Also Ymir's letter
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>>146933836

How is that relevant though? It's normal for ugly fat Betas like Flegel to have their wives cheat on them.
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>>146933899
Well if t confirms Ymir is dead I think it would be natural to be upset. But if it's Ymir giving her insider information then I think she would remain calm.
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The letter is the EL essay.
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>>146933952
Historia is not a whore.
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>>146932514
Eren lost his mind because he ate his father. You can compare him with Armin, he didn't even cry but wanted to vomit. Just read the manga.
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>>146933717
>That doesn't make other characters look dumb.
It does whe he is the only one to realize everything. That's it, that's his role.
He is the one that's always right in his guesses, he is the one that everyone asks for a plan, even when Jean is a good strategist like him.
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>>146933998
I hope it's an actual sheet of paper so we can make shitty edits.
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>>146934026
>You can compare him with Armin
No, Eren ate his own father, Armin ate an enemy.
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>>146933901
I think Eren would kill himself if he got a girl pregnant.
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>>146934010

Since when does cheating on your husband make you a whore?

Especially if it's something sexually empowering, like fucking a black guy behind your husband's back? (And Ymir is doubly empowering since she identifies as a woman despite having a penis.)
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>>146934098
Didn't I tell you to go sell your futa lesbian romance stories already?
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>>146934095
Anon he's not like that. He would be depressed and not feel fit for the role sure
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>>146934145
I'm still waiting for the right publisher. It's really hard to sell these in a white male dominated world.
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>>146934098
Go away you whore.
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>>146934084
I wonder how many SNKtards have already used this as a pickup line in real life unironically.

You know it had to happen.
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>>146934082
He realizes things sometimes because he remembers Hange's theories and is inspired by Erwin. Jean isn't a strategic but I won't discuss that because everyone love Jean.
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>>146934293
This. He only came up with the plan to weaken CT because of Hange's theory.
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>>146934182
Males would be the biggest fanbase for dyke futa erotica.
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>>146934480
Wow, this is really triggering my benjamins. Don't you know that YH shippers are 102% female? Just like yaoi is 102% for males.
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>>146933779

Eren doesn't have sharp teeth.
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>>146934545
YH seems more like a dyke ship girls would prefer over the sexualized big tittied futa's men like.
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>>146934371
Then why didn't Hange come with a plan? Yes, he takes inspiration from other characters, but is the fact that only him is capable of doing this and not those characters themselves or others that makes him badly written.
Because he has nothing going for him other than his mind, he has to discover every single ruse and plan all the plans.
No, that's just lazy.
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>>146934728
Hange wasn't there and she designed the thunder spears. Why others characters can't realize it? Why can't Armin fight hand to hand with the rest of the squad? It is the same. Armin doesn't know how to fight and the others are concentrated in the battle that can't think on a plan.
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>>146934888
Careful, he'll tell you Armin's weakness is also convenient.
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>the baseball memers were right
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>>146934728
>Then why didn't Hange come with a plan?
Because Plans that only Armin could device.
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>>146934942
It is, it makes him sympathetic and balances with his mind.
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>>146934942
I know. He wouldn't be that bad if he just stays on the background. That's the reasoning.
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>>146935005
It was obvious though. Noone was really surprised.
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>>146935005
Will Zeke have a catch with his lil bro?
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>>146935057
Inspired by Hange's theories.
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>>146925136
>Put him to rest when he was about to do this. Why?

Because Erwin was about to fulfill his dream, then he has nothing after that. At least Armin will keep fighting until he seems the Ocean, so he is stronger.
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>>146933998
Did those ELfujos killed themselves after these chapters?
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>>146935097
No, but the cast should be balanced.
It's not, and then you have Sasha and Connie being complete idiots fading instead with Jean close behind.
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>>146916196
This wasn't that hard to predict if you read through the whole series in one go. The whole Titans, the walls, the will of the first king, the fact that all people aside from very few are from one single race of humans thing, pointed to this.

I suppose the ancestors to the humans inside the walls did something so terrible that they were punished by the rest of humanity by being caged inside the walls with Titans being their jailers. Titans are other humans, which means that being a close-to-mindless Titan is probably a form of punishment for criminals or something in the outside world.
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>>146935182
You keep saying that but it's just not true.
Also Armin will break rather sooner than later.
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>>146935260
It is, Ymir is the example of this.
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>>146935200
Jean is the only character that people forgive his mistakes because he is Jean. Connie and Sasha know how to fight and they have matured on their own. You could also ask them to fight a little more but is always Mikasa the one who shines in battle.
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>>146935261
Armin has too much on his mind and yeah he will feel bad but he won't break completely. That's something you want to happen.
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>>146935336
Because Jean is a very well written character and Sasha/Connie are somewhat competent comedy relief.

>>146935389
Just wait next month and we'll see who is right.
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>>146935261
>You keep saying that but it's just not true.

That's the first time I say that, other anons probably came to the same conclusion.

Levi realized that Erwin was going to have nothing after he realized the truth in the basement. He was going to learn the truth and then have nothing to fight for anymore.
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>>146935336
>Jean is the only character that people forgive his mistakes because he is Jean

I'm still pretty mad about Reiner though. But in the end the only thing Jean actually did was prioritize grabbing Hanji, and I can't hate him for that.
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>>146935306

Wow. Are you saying that Ymir is a criminal just because Ymir is black?
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>>146935514
Then I'll say again what I said to the other one: learn how to read first, then come back.
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>>146935558
she didnu nuffin
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