Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1664

Having passed for a native of the English language, I realised that I must also pass for a native of Japanese. How long should it take for me to accomplish it?

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>>146880518
matsuri is kawaii

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Could someone explain to me what
>失われたアーク的なサムシングだよ
means?
Specifically
>アーク的
I don't have a clue of what that means even after using rikai and googling it. I thought it'd be "arch enemy" at first but I can't see how either.

Context is she's about to get dildo'd and thus loose her virginity.

My problem with anki is that it's not learning vocab. It's learning the kanji for the vocab. If I could hear the pronunciation for the word I'd know what it was but instead I have to look at some bullshit and guess how it is read.

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なんだこれは？
全然分からねえ

前に手に人?　何という意味は？
also, did I write correctly this last sentence?

>>146880518
I have been doing Anki for a couple of weeks now and I have gone through Tae Kim's grammar guide. I don't know what else to do now besides my daily anki, since I downloaded Yotsuba and found myself struggling to get past the first chapter. Should I just keep doing anki until I get to 1000 words and then try again with Yotsuba?

>>146880917
>いやその前に手に人って字を・・・アレ何回書くんだっけか
"Well a while ago I wrote the 人 character by hand a bunch of t-... uhm uh? how many times did I write it already..."

"a bunch of -t" isn't a translation here, I just added it for reading comprehension.

>>146880917
>>146881042
I could provide a better explanation with more context by the way. Now that I think about it, it probably means "before this you write 人... uh... how many times already"; she's explaining a ritual or something? In the future don't cut context please.

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sorry, its a nervous student advisor speaking in front of everyone at school

>>146881033
You should read every day, regardless of how much you struggle. Just set aside 30-60 minutes, it doesn't matter how far you get.

>>146881042
It's not "by hand" it's "on my hand."
Tracing 人 on your hand with your finger to prevent stage fright is an old cliche, like imagining everyone in the audience is wearing only underwear.

>>146881315
Yeah you're correct.

>>146880831
Additionally, what is ベ〇ータ？ I-I'm too pure to know such words.

>>146880584
Impossible unless you look asian.

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>>146881315
>Tracing 人 on your hand with your finger to prevent stage fright is an old cliche, like imagining everyone in the audience is wearing only underwear.
oooh, so thats it.
thank you

>>146880831
失われたアーク is the Ark of the Covenant
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/レイダース/失われたアーク《聖櫃》

At this rate something very precious inside of me will become like the lost arc.
I guess.

>>146881443
ベジータ

>>146881461
I could undergo facial surgery though

>>146881814
Ohhhh I see, makes sense. I didn't even think of that.

Same goes for Vegeta. Cheers.

でも、その失われたアーク的なサムシングとは何か、そのmangaを全部読まないと分からない

>>146882047
I don't get the point of your post.

>>146882149
It is context.
I cannot understand me only by the lines of the character of the manga.

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>>146882381
http://www.ef.com/english-resources/english-grammar/
http://englishlive.ef.com/blog/5-tips-make-constructing-english-sentences-easy/
http://www.learnenglish.de/grammar/sentencetext.html

>>146882381
あ、日本人だった

>>146880831
>Context is she's about to get dildo'd and thus loose her virginity.
別なチャラは少女にディルドを使って犯してという意味だった
もしまだ分からない、また説明する

>>146882606
>チャラ
おっと、キャラクター

人 + 夢 = 儚

really makes you think...

What's the difference between 飲料水 and 飲み水?

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Could someone post the original dekinai? The only ones I could find are fuckin tiny

>>146882765
Damn...

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Doing my japanese course homework, rate my handwriting

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The only thing you can do to fight laziness is form habits and just make the rational decision to do the goddamn work. Worst case scenario, you barely do any new anki cards and have to wait years before you're good. If you learn 5 kanji-vocabulary a day, you'll know 3,000 kanji in less than 2 years, and would have barely spent time studying. Obviously this is suboptimal but you can be a lazy shit and still do it.

Another thing would be to force yourself to read manga in Japanese. That's what I'm trying to do and it's ridiculously helpful. Reading practice is the most important thing to do while learning Japanese. If you do nothing but anki for 100 years you will never learn Japanese. Try reading a single chapter or something a day and build up as time goes on. Do *not* rely on motivation. Just make a schedule and stick with it. If you can't do that, sorry, but you really can't learn Japanese.

>>146883647
To be honest it's obvious you're a beginner simply judging by how careful you still seem to be writing, i.e. you don't have your own handwriting signature yet, it looks forced and unnatural.

But it's good, keep it up anon.

>>146883647
Your う looks kind of like a backwards 'c', but I don't have any problem reading any of that. Good work.

>>146883647
Way too pretty

>>146883778
Good post. Could've been written by me (which means it's great since I'm the best).

>>146883837
I apply a lot of pressure while writing yes but I don't write it slowly, I'm an architecture student and I'm kinda autistic about my writing.

>>146883981
With time it'll get better anyway.

Just be careful about your う, as anon pointed out yours look like コ with a dot on them.

>>146883981
you dont say 爆笑

>>146884055
Thanks, will work on that

>>146883647
>writing き and さ like that
Tryhard as fuck.

>>146883647
you forgot an い in おおきい

>tfw there are people who don't write い as И
>tfw there are people who don't write こ as Z

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>>146883647
Are there any places where you can print out worksheets like this?

>>146884371
It's a (((mcgraw hill))) workbook

>>146884350
>tfw there are people who write い as И
>tfw there are people who write こ as Z

>>146880917
>分からねえ
>ねえ

This kind of colloquial speech ends up feeling really cringeworthy from beginners.

>>146884371
just make your own

for example go through tyler kim and do all the words he gives you as you go through the lessons

do you guys use kanjitomo? i found it in the COR but in yotsuba its getting most of the words wrong

is it just the font?

>>146884631
No, I use my eyes.

>>146884631
it's going to get most of the words wrong. OCR is not good.

>>146884631
Seems to be mostly useful for identifying kanji rather than strings of kana.

>>146884631
>>146884667
if you adjust zoom level/how much white space there is around the word it gets pretty close to 100% accurate on most fonts, don't use the auto ocr on it, always drag your own boxes

I've only ever had it consistently be wrong on really blocky text in pc98 games

>>146884745
also it isn't like rikaisama where it will automatically resolve conjugation, so you have to use your grammar knowledge to figure out where words start and end (not easy if you are brand new to reading)

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>>146880917
人人の人（じんじんのじん）

は幸運のおまじないなんだって

手にこの呪いを書いてのむことで

幸運を願うっていうことなんだって

先代の円楽さんが高座でいっていたよ

はなしかのいうことだから、はなしはんぶんにおぼえておいてね

>>146884745
>>146884667
i might just wait for flyable heart to finish downloading and start with that and another program.

i have a translated version of yotsuba too. would it help to read the two side by side or would i be wasting time

>>146885315
How can you possibly be having trouble with Yotsuba?

>>146883281
bump どうぞ

>>146885396
yotsuba is full of anime grammar instead of textbook grammar senpai

Can I, as a Russian who learned English to a native-like level, learn Japanese in 5-6 years to a decent level, and, of course, become fluent by the end of given time span?

>>146882606
>loose her virginity.
はい、理解できました。

>>146885315
It would work for understanding the meaning of the sentence, but translators always take liberties, so you shouldn't rely on it too much. Also fan translations are hit and miss when it comes to how accurate they actually are, but Yotsuba should be fine in that regard I hope.

Makes you think.

http://japanese.joins.com/article/921/195921.html

>就職ポータルの「キャリア」は２７日、サラリーマン４４８人を対象にアンケート調査を実施した。この結果、「職場生活のなかで火病にかかったことはあるか」という質問に９０．１８％の会社員が「ある」と回答した。

>火病にかかった理由のうち、１位は「上司や同僚との人間関係にともなう葛藤（６３．８０％）」が占めた。また、「多すぎる業務、業務成果に対するストレス（２４．８９％）」「人事など考課算定に対する不利益（３．６２％）」「早朝出勤および夜勤による睡眠不足（３．１７％）」「解雇やリストラに対する不安感（２．７１％）」などの理由が後に続いた。

>「火病はどのような形態で現れるか」という質問には３４．６８％が「慢性疲労を病んでいる」と回答した。また、「躁鬱症（１９．０２％）」「脱毛（１２．３０％）」「職業病（９．８４％）」「呼吸困難（６．２６％）」「パニック障害（４．２５％）」「その他（１３．６５％）」が後に続いた。

>>146885396
He is clearly a beginner if he's relying on OCR for yotsuba?

>>146885315
Get the yotsuba reading pack, more useful than side by side imo, as translators can be occasionally liberal at best and just plain making shit up at worst. It might help to get the gist of a scenario if you're really lost, though.

>>146883281
>飲料水
potable water (especially in the sense of clean)
>飲み水
drinking water (even from a mountain spring)

>>146885565
>He is clearly a beginner if he's relying on OCR for yotsuba?
Yes, my point was: if he can't even read Yotsuba without relying on KanjiTomo, maybe he should learn more grammar and vocab before attempting to read.

>>146885444
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/17116/meaning/m0u/

>>146885549
>韓国人
Who cares?

>>146885919
Well, me. But mostly because I like how the word "hwabyung" sounds.

I also find it notable how it's clear they're mostly hwabyunging each other.
>１位は「上司や同僚との人間関係にともなう葛藤（６３．８０％）」が占めた

>>146885633
i should know enough grammar to read it but i went through the book way too slowly so i probably forgot some things. once i see something a few times it should come back to me (i hope) and it should get easier

>>146885500
lose*

>>146884631
If the manga has furigana I don't bother and just type out + rikai what I don't understand.

If the manga doesn't I do use it. True it was frustrating to use at first but as anon said once you get used to it it works pretty much all the time.

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Hand over the grammar and I won't start shooting.

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>>146886413

Just starting with anki

What deck for beginner?

>>146886626
what does the でも do here

>>146887024
the one you make yourself from words you encounter as you read

>>146886626
I see nothing wrong with this translation

>>146887273
is that how you read the intent

いすじすぐっどいんぐりしゅ?

Today I did Anki for 36 minutes and then I read a visual novel for 2 hours and 52 minutes.

>>146887124
Pretty that, contextually, it means to do anything other than what they're doing right now.

They're in an obviously sexual situation, so she's trying to change the subject.

I could be very wrong, though.

>>146887124
I think its でもしか as in "for lack of anything better to do"

>>146887024
You can use the core 2k/6k/10k decks to build a kanji vocabulary so you can recognize words while reading

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>>146887656
さすがに無感動

>>146887649
いぇすざっといすふあいんさんきゅ

>>146887223
t. beginner

>>146887124
It's kind of like "kanji or something."
漢字でも文法でも何でも勉強しようぜ

>>146884571
I dont like it either, but its the only way I can find to familiarize myself with it

I don't want to learn katakana after having learned hiragana
Is there a way to bullshit myself through sentences with only hiragana and kanji?

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>>146888255
Just do it anon-kun

>>146888255
No, you retard, it takes two fucking days to learn the kana and if you can't deal with that then how do you expect to learn thousands of words?

>>146880755
撫でたい

>>146888255
Look, here's my story :

I was exactly like you, "wow fuck Katakana, I want to jump into the fun stuff already". So I just skimmed through them and thought I'd just learn them on the go.

Well I sort of ended up learning them on the go, but still had difficulties telling a few of them apart a year or go into my studies, and if you'd ask me to write them I couldn't fucking do it although I had already learned hundreds of Kanji by them. So I had to fucking re-learn Katakana correctly after a while.

Get it? It's fucking nothing, do that now and be at peace forever, you moron.

>>146888255
It is possible (although not recommended) to learn grammar, kanji and vocab without knowing katakana, however you'll have to learn it eventually nonetheless.
More importantly, if you don't fix your attitude and stop being a lazy cunt, you can't learn Japanese.

>>146888656
>learn
By this I mean "start learning", obviously.

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https://a.pomfe.co/yhlmiab.webm

Can anyone help me out with that こぶた のうば line? I'm a bit stumped. I don't get the joke at all.

>>146888778
she is dressed like a granny?

took me 2 hours to finish a Yotsubato chapter
should I kill myself

>>146889075
自殺できない

>>146889075
No, you should read the next chapter.

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>>146889075
>kill myself
いいえ、おれが殺してやる

>>146889128
>できない
Why I laughed so much holy shit

>>146889167
From the thumbnail it looked like a giant dick.

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>スタコラ

>>146888877
I don't think that's it. Though I have no idea either.

>>146888778
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOVA

>>146889471
I looked it up and I don't get it either.
http://ejje.weblio.jp/content/%E3%81%99%E3%81%9F%E3%81%93%E3%82%89

>>146889676
Nevermind I do now.

>>146880831
アニメ化まだ?

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Do it for Takepan-sensei

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これはいいかな
８０％を察したけど

>>146890255
sure

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1473291343694.webm

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Is this an advanced use of を or is it an incomplete sentence? Some times later she goes something like 素敵な友達を殺し続けるの but it still sounds weird to my inexperienced brain (no bullying this time pls)

>>146890656
fuck off back to /vg/
:^)

>>146890656
...what?

>>146890656
I think you need to read up on を

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>>146890521
Why is she so kawaii

I want her to teach me Japanese forever

>>146890819
Hmm I thought it needed to be a verb after を but hasn't it become a noun now(murderer)?

>>146890886
殺し - stem of 殺す says papa rikai

>>146890886
殺し can be a noun in some cases but strictly speaking it's the 連用形 of 殺す—the continuative form.

One function of the continuative form is to link two clauses, like the て-form does. So 素敵な彼女を殺し is like "Kill wonderful girlfriend and..."

We expect there to be more information after the verb, because it's not in its normal sentence-final form 殺す.

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>>146890881
i think its because unlike most western women she is somehow lacking that thick layer of blubber
ツインテール の関係ない

I feel so much cuter when I type in Japanese

>>146890656
>>146890886
Is this your first fucking VN?

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Is there any japanese imageboard with language learning boards or threads that allows gaijins?

>目の前の女子高生の会話に出てくる「ブルース先輩」が一体どんな人物なのか気になってしょうがない
Can anyone help me with this one? Is the one doing the 気になる the JK or the poster?

>>146891213
Now that you mention it I've also seen it used like that before, thanks
>>146891659
I've recently started playing my first VN but it's not this one, this is just a video I've come across https://youtu.be/Mxnh3_5ODSA

>>146890656
youve done it now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXGaB6WDJ5k

>>146888255
As soon as you learn the katakana you get the instant reward of being able to read thousands of silly english loanwords and poorly transliterated foreign words and names. There will never be another time in all of your Japanese studies where you will achieve so much with so little effort. Some of the katakana double up as kanji as well, so that's even more shit that you can get for free.

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>>146892141
I'm so sorry but I've solved the mystery now thanks to you guys. She wanted to say continue to kill

>>146892414
what vn is this

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>>146892414
ayyyyy

>>146883647
You wrote a chi the wrong way round. I'm surprised nobody noticed yet

>>146892414
gambare dude gambare

>>146892562
i dont think anyone actually cared enough to really look at the picture at least i didnt so congrats on outing yourself carebear

>>146892458
https://vndb.org/v3144 subarashiki hibi

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>>146892155
>thousands of silly english loanwords
ドンマイ

one more reason to learn japanese: uzbek qts
https://youtu.be/oyw1wLPVCww?t=691

>>146893495
god his accent... i just threw up a little duck i must

あなたは人の大です

Is this proper nihongo CIA posting? I've only been learning Japanese for about a month. I promise never to post this, it's just came across my mind and I wondered how to say it.

>>146895482
君は大きいね
俺にとって

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i keep wiping feces all over ambassador and its quite the faux pas

>>146893495
I always like seeing foreigners be able to express themselves in Japanese. Makes me want to get better at speaking.

>>146895482
お前は大きなやつだよ

>>146895710
if enough of us here try they may just return 鎖国

>>146895529
>>146896007
arigatou めめ-senpais

I have so far to go.

>>146896240
you're welcome but please don't ever translate memes

>>146895482
You need to understand the structure of japanese sentences and particles. First, everything before a noun modifies that noun. Ex. 神に憧れた人の成果て. 神に憧れた is what's modifying 人の成果て.

の is a possessive. "yのx" is roughly the same as "y's x", Unless you're treating it as a sort of description, which is a bit different.

What you wrote is "You're a person's big". Doesn't make much sense, does it?

>>146896625
cease

>>146883647
>さゅうごく
>ぎゅうんゆう
やだなー

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>>146896670
Do correct me senpai, I'm still learning too.

>>146896625
>の is a possessive. "yのx" is roughly the same as "y's x"

Thanks, this is quite helpful. I just started reading Japanese the manga way a couple days ago and it's my first attempt at understanding grammar.

Would anyone happen to have a digital version of 新完全マスター聴解N2 or know where to find it? Thanks.

>>146896938
Check the Cornucopia, should be there? The title is written in romaji / english instead, though.

>>146896625
>First, everything before a noun modifies that noun.

Can you expand on more shit like this. If the entire clause modifies the noun, how are particles such as に meant to be translated?

A transliteration goes something like:
(God に longed for) man の reduced

>>146896892
Yeah, that description works for a while, but の isn't that simple. If you start thinking of it as a particle that denotes possession, you'll have an easier time later on.

>>146897000
Wow, everything is so organized now. Should have read the OP, as usual. Thanks.

>>146897006
Not that guy, but
>神に憧れた人
means "A person who longed for God": "longed for God" (神に憧れた) is modifying the noun "person" (人).

>>146897366
ありがとう

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Anybody know a good place to watch Japanese news or just TV in general? I have tried https://terebi.tzn.re/ but it lags horribly and I can barely even watch anything. It doesn't necessarily have to be a live stream, maybe just the name of a news program or talk show with episodes I could look up on youtube would be good too.

>>146897824
i watch nhk on sbs, dunno if it works outside of aus

http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/search/japanese

>>146897006
The the entire clause doesn't modify the noun. 神に憧れた. "Longed for god," is like a relative clause to 人(Person), or 人の成果て("what used to be a person").

So you have
>[神に憧れた]¹[人の成果て]²
that translates to
>[What used to be a person]²[who longed for God]¹.

>>146897941
So the verb conjugation for 憧れる distinguishes 神に憧れた as a relative clause?

>>146897870
I don't think it works, but thanks. I've allowed practically every script to run except for google analytics and facebook, and it still won't work.

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>>146897941
>>146898226
Why you would try to teach someone Japanese grammar from the ground up over a 4chan thread is beyond me.

Answer his original question and then let him get on with his studies.

>>146898226
Not really. You could replace 憧れた with 憧れる and the only thing that changes is that it is now present tense instead of past tense.

>>146898408
ただの気まぐれだけです

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I learnt something new today

>>146896938
ところで、敬語についての本をアップロードしました。資源コルヌコピアにご自由に加えてください。

https://mega.nz/#F!Ex0UnZSQ!RXUCs3eiGvvZdrzSwtk1hg

>>146900541
Aoba a cute!

>>146900667
Nene's cuter

>>146900742
Nene a shit. A SHIT

>>146900742
shit taste
besides, everyone knows umiko is best ニューゲーム

>>146880518
imouto OP?

>>146900541
im a newbie. someone tell me what this girl is saying

>>146901415
the pleasure of being cummed inside

>>146901415
sage if you don't have any reason to bump

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>>146900769
Nene is just too feminine for you faggot

>>146900800
>ahagon
Nigger lover please go and stay go

>>146901515
>feminine
くそ餓鬼

>>146901515
>feminine
Nene is literally a child. Token pedo-baiting character, anyone who's not a mentally ill retard dislikes her

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>>146901556
>くそ餓鬼

あおばはロリばばですけど

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>>146901692
>feeling attracted to little children

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>>146901615
>18 years old
>in college
>kid

That's a great meme you have there friend, really, really hilarious. I took a picture of your post on my computer screen with my iPhone just so I could share it, since it was just such a fantastic meme. I'm still laughing right now, yes, right now when you are reading this post. hahahhahaha

>>146901826
>>146901777
>being a jealous old hag

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>>146901692
>ロリ
で？

>>146901874
We need a an angel hifumi version.

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>>146901826
>draw a child
>call her an adult
When will this meme end?

>>146901924
Hifumi is already an angel, anon

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>>146901927
>コーラ・ポテチ・甘いもの
ほんとうに子供みたい

あおばは？

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>>146901927
>draw an 18 year old
>call her an 18 year old

>>146902048
ロリは最高だね〜

>清々しいまでのクズ

I assume this is meant to be "what an incredible asshole" or something from context, but how does that work? 清々しい doesn't seem to have any definition that could fit that.

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>>146902023
そうですね
青葉も子らしいと思う

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thanks to the guy who said that 仕掛け = (fishing) tackle a few threads ago or I wouldn't have had any idea what this was

>>146902192
>ボク

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>>146902124
そうかもしれないけど、寧々ちゃんわロリじゃありません！

>>146901927
>144cm
>>146902189
>149cm
What?

>>146902472
>ロリぽい

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>>146902192

>>146902154
There is nothing that can be done.
Actually,Actually,It's rather great.

すがすがしいほどの　○○（bad things）

>>146902252
nah mate it's a 僕っ子

>>146903181
oh, nevermind then.

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>勝利への架橋
>入魂
>??

Anyone willing to guess what that last one could be from the 1/3 that's visible?

>>146905412
必勝

>>146905560
And here I thought the first was 火 (because of the flames on the poster too) and the right top radical on the second was 立, god damn.

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Rip 100% mature rentention, it wasn't meant to be.

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４０センチ台のひとはだいたい

高い靴をはくよ

ねだんじゃなくて、身長アップするアレ

>>146906450
おち○ぽの話？

>>146891768
I can't help but wonder just what kind of person is this "Blues-senpai" that appears in the conversation of schoolgirls in front of me.

>>146880518
The glasses are a mouth.

>>146889506
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecsVmkR3QAU

That fucking rabbit. I wonder if those constant fails are a good motivation to learn English.

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>>146906911
あ
可哀想

>>146906911
What did he mean by this?

>>146907099
The connecting piece is a mouth
The frames are puffy cheeks

>>146907134
Damn...

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Okay I know my kana well enough to recognize them with different fonts and lazy ass handwriting, but holy shit some kanji aberrations are just too much for me.

How do you decipher shit like this if you've never seen it before?

>>146907267
魔法

Focus on the general shape, you'll get better at it with time.

>>146907323
廃墟？
廃炉？

日本人だけど読めなかったわ
まどマギだと言われれば分かったかもね

>>146906450
避難場どこへ

>>146907323
>>146907267
Fuck I never would have got that

I hope I never encounter a font like that in my life

>>146907503
語彙力がない私は「魔法」以外の言葉を思いつかなかった。

>>146907638
なるほど　そういうこともあるんだねｗ
面白い

>>146907503
左はとにかく、右はあきらかに「法」だろう

Okay so I am glad I managed to hustle and make my self imposed deadline of Sep 1st, so yay on that... but still being here I just realize how much more I have to learn and it's a bit less exciting than when I started and thought that by the end of genki2 I'll be chatting with ease in Japanese and able to watch movies with out subtitles (I was naive! Though I can catch enough to get an idea of what is going on... but miss most of the nuances). Anyway just having a moment where I am realizing how much there is to learn. Next up an advanced intermediate class which will be all in Japanese so am a bit terrified (listening is not my strong point), so here is hoping I can keep up. Anyway anyone else feel slightly let down when they reach what should be exciting milestones? Oh and I got Intermediate Japanese because my class will be using it... any opinions on it?

>>146907786
What exactly was your self imposed deadline?

>>146907786
can you condense that into 140 characters or less please thank you

>>146907837
元気２終わりし俺流暢話せるると思いきや否現実然程甘からず

>>146907837
damm twitter addicts, clean yourself up m8

What is 孤高? The dictionary definitions are all very different, isolation, aloofness & superiority.

>>146907891
毒舌だっていいじゃんか

>>146908006
Read Japanese definitions.

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/孤高

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>>146907891
甘辛って。おいしいよね

えいごでなんていうんだろ

>sweet and spice
>sweet and salt
>soy sauce and sugar

もうわからない。いつもわからない

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>>146908006

>>146908045
Too long, sum it up for me.

>>146908109
Read more.

Kanji + vocab + grammar make Homer nanika nanika.

I gotta drop one because my brain can't handle all of them at once.

>>146908211
Well you never were supposed to do kanji.

>>146908211
Read more.

Guys I just lost both of my eyes in an accident and am now completely blind and incapable of reading what should I do

>>146908326
Read more.

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Need help on top left panel

>>146907703
>左はとにかく、
左はともかく、

右は明らかに存在しない漢字に見えましたｗ
漢字の部首が一度も見たことがない形だったので

こノぶンしョうヨめマすカ？

>>146908360
前、父さんが借りた映画は

くそつまんねーって言った

よく聞け私はゲイ

>>146908387
>くそつまんねーって言った
Shit boring? Whaat? I'm too fucking retarded. 覚えてください

>>146908580
>I'm too fucking retarded. 覚えてください

ok will do

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>>146908604

What's your favourite 小説?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJc9AZ5rSAs
Day 3 guys. Ganbatte kudasai

>>146908580
クソ
つまらない
って (と)
言った
Also, you probably meant 教えてください.

>>146908671
罪と罰

https://ashitane.edutown.jp/quiz/quizzes/233/

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>>146908687
>Watching that bitch when you could be watching Takepan-sama

>>146908801
What is she measuring in this picture?

I'm finally starting to figure out how Kanji combine. This is pretty neat.

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>>146908763
ez

But desu I didn't know 2 of those kanji, I just guessed based on the provided photo of the fish.

>>146908834
Ganbaru levels

>>146908862
What are you, a fucking fisherman?

>>146908687
How many days will you waste?
7 year old child can finish these in one hour.

>>146908888
Nah, just not a sheltered clapper like you that only buy preprocessed meat in Walmart.

>>146908862
I didn't know 鮎 but just guessed it based on what reading sounded fishy

https://ashitane.edutown.jp/quiz/quizzes/2/

>>146908951
Are there not any actual difficult quizes on that site

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>>146908747
あれながいよねー。ドス様なら

白痴のほうがよかったよ

もちろんにほんご訳版でよんだんだよ

>>146908985
https://ashitane.edutown.jp/quiz/quizzes/351/

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>>146908951
これは電源プラグだろｗ

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>>146908801
is she as stacked as のりこ

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1473328986273.webm

or as maaaad?

>>146908997
妹は文学が好きですか？

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>>146909004
えーマジ
イージーモード！？
At least reading the questions on that one feels somewhat productive

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>>146909070
にほんごやくがでていれば、よむよ

でもまだなんとなくトルストイと村上春樹は既読じゃないの

ごめんねおにいちゃん

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>>146909024
No but she is about 5000 times more 萌え

Serious lack of webms though

>>146909175
>Serious lack of webms though
ill cut more when i get to her, unless you have any specific scene in mind

>>146909304
I'll leave it to you senpai I trust your taste in scenes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNxPRBvRQg

It is kind of interesting watching Kanji challenges like this and on AKB48 tv show, the way they try to think through how to write kanji they can't remember is interesting.

>>146910073
>戦糖

I thought I was bad

>>146910073
Gives shitty cripples that decided to ignore writing some hope, eh?

>擦る
>こする
>さする
>する

Just fucking kill me now

>>146910180
Kinda interesting though that they don't think of the compounds as blocks and memorize them like that.

I have been learning kanji as compounds so every time I see a individual kanji I remember all the different compounds it is in.

>>146910231
ok
*unsheathes replica katana i got on ebay*

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>>146910180
SUGAR WAR
where the taste of victory was never sweeter

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I'm getting depressed, I can't read shit.

Tried Hanahira, took me ages to get any sense out of the sentences and it's still just a wild guess most of the time, rather than actually knowing what it means.

Yotsubato is pretty much the same thing, I mean there is the reading guide but I feel like I don't make any progress and I have to look up fucking everything.

It's no fucking fun, I hate it.

Just did Tae Kim and Anki until now, maybe I should go through Genki or something like that to get better at actually using the language?

How long does it take to learn Japanese to the highest level possible?

>>146910516
You will never be able to read comfortably just by doing Anki and reading grammar guides. You need to read. Even easy content will seem difficult at first, but that's just how it is. Instead of asking DJT for advice, you should go back to Yotsuba and force yourself to finish it.

>>146910516
i was like that not long ago, just keep going and bookmark this
http://core6000.neocities.org/dojg/
yotsuba is probably better to start on than hanahira because a lot of whats going on is illustrated better, the downside of yotsuba being harder to lookup unknown words without an OCR

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>>146910516
Nothing to worry about, really. It's just that you can't.

>>146910516
Everyone feels like that when they read something in Japanese for the first time, it's supposed to feel impossible, I felt the exact same way you do like a year and a half ago when I tried to read through yotsuba and hanahira, and now I could read both of those without having to look up a single word

I think the important thing is just not getting demotivated, there's nothing you can do other than just struggle through shit until you slowly get better and better, so just try to take comfort in knowing that it's supposed to feel like that, and that you have to just keep pushing through

>>146910516
read more, don't feel bad if you have to look stuff up Just Do It
>>146910614
>yotsuba being harder to lookup unknown words without an OCR
how so? i mean it has furigana for everything but the most basic of kanji

>>146910666
often the furigana font in my copy was barely legible and id just formed a habit of using capture2text bound to a mouse button anyway

i was searching for an android emulator that has a working 'camera' to use googles ocr, nothing else is that good with crappy handwriting(the guide says as much for handwriting them) but somewhere through the middle of yotsuba they became easier to read.. somehow

maybe the context was tipping me off too much

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おにいちゃな

おなかすいた

おにぎりたべたい

おかかねおかかだよおかかおねがい

>>146910516
kys

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>>146910516
Try to do things like you learned at school
give yourself an achievable goal, say 1 chapter a day or even a few pages.

Take those few pages and then write some test questions and try to answer them about the topic of those pages, highlight any tricky words and explain all the grammatical structures.

I picked up a copy of a novel I found in a charity shop, I am trying make sure I understand by typing it out and checking my comprehension.

Alright so like, as an example, is
私はあなたを大好き
or
私あなた大好き

more grammatically correct?

>>146911023
Both are "correct" but you'd probably use 私はあなたのことが大好きだ in formal writing.

Do you あける a 扉 or do you ひらける it?

>>146911023
>私はあなたを大好き
Usually you would use が and あなたのこと for a few reasons

>私あなた大好き
You've taken out all the particles but it would pass in casual conversation

The most correct would be 私はあなたのことが大好き I guess

>>146911127
ひらける is intransitive

>>146911127
あける or ひらく

>>146911023
Depending on the on context you can just omit everything and go with:
好きです
or
あなたが好きです

You don't really need to include the obvious 私 unless you need to emphasis that it is *you* who like them.

>>146902154
So anyone actually know the answer to this? Because >>146902795 doesn't explain it.

>>146911244
Hell you can just say 好き

>>146910516
lol eops

Any of you guys use iTalki? Thoughts on it?

>>146911265
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/117405/meaning/m0u/

28 days remain until I've run out of new words on core 6k. I still haven't gone through a grammar book. Where can I buy some motivation?

>>146911634
>People like this actually exist

>>146911687
I wish I was joking, it's far too easy to leave my reps until late at night and at that point I don't want to read a grammar book.

>>146911561
what's the point? isn't it easier and better to go to futaba chan instead? If your IP gets banned then there's vpn with jap ip for these purposes

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Had any similar experiences, DJT pals?

>>146911837
Ow
My brain

My handwriting in English is borderline illegible and my handwriting in Japanese feels like a crime against the language.

What do?

Even characters I've written 100+ times still look just as shit as the first time. I can't draw, either. My fingers are retarded.

how do you change your anki language (interface)

>>146912076
Don't worry jap handwriting is barely legible too

>>146912076
you lack fine motor control from abusing stimulants, lack of practice or just bad genetics

as a practice, place two dots on a page and try and draw a dead straight line between them

>forgot to mine words yesterday
>tfw managed to pick up 20 new words from this thread
Thanks guys.

>>146912076
the only advice I could give you is kys, and never ever try to defile my precious Japanese with your dirty retarded stumps

>>146911837
The kicker here is that he is taking her to a Japanese restaurant.

>>146911837
No but I got mistaken for a jap on /int/ by one of them once

Are there custom decks for memrise like there is for anki? Is there something wrong with memrise that no one here suggests it?

I can't use anki, after the first couple of cards I've just spaced out from clicking AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN over the same couple of cards

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Doing quality translation work is hard. I find that I often reuse the same phrases, or can't think of how to word something. Are there any books good for studying translation?

>>146912657
use a thesaurus! you double nigger

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>>146906166
>6 of 7
>not 100% retention

>>146912657
Just convert everything into slang, so natives will know what it means.

>>146912742
A thesaurus is good for single words, not whole phrases.

>>146912881
Read more books in both English and Japanese.

>>146912905
I read lots of English literature, tbqhfam. I've always been bad with words despite reading all the time.

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>>146912905
えいごにほんやくされた、にほんのしょうせつを

えいごでよんでから、にほんごでよむのは

とってもいいんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

>>146912981
Then you're fucked and shouldn't be translating anything to begin with.

>>146911634
Nihongo no mori videos if you can't be bothered to read.

Are Japanese translation of English literature very different? I mean, have you ever read any classic author translated into Japanese? And what were your impressions in comparison to the original?

>>146913248
I've read a few books translated from English to Japanese. Let me just say that if you thought Japanese - English translations were bad in general, the other way around is exactly as bad if not worse.

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>>146912627
This is clearly a brain problem, not a software problem. If you can't focus on studying, how is changing the software going to fix that? Even if anki somehow WAS the problem, it's so customizable (if you're not a lazy shit) that I can't think of what it can't do that memrise would do better? If you need social validation join fucking reddit or something.

Focusing: Load up a "study music" or "ambiance" playlist on youtube, settle yourself down at your desk so you're comfortable and won't have to get up for at least half an hour. That means pissing / getting coffee / tea / eating something with carbs beforehand. Make sure it's not too hot, too noisy (mask it with white noise if you must), too bright, turn phone notifications off etc. etc. Don't get distracted by outside things.

Consider doing prestudy OUTSIDE of anki if you're not absorbing new words, or increase the amount of steps you have on learning phase & possibly lowering the starting ease.

>>146912657
Translation is a skill in of itself, separate from knowing either language.

It IS very related to your english writing ability, so perhaps you should brush up on that first?

Alternatively consider looking up the blogs of translators and what books they recommend.

>>146913329
Memrise requires me to solve simple problems, multiple choice, type the word, sound recognition.

Anki is just look at this thing and don't forget it


unless there's some way to add questions to anki or make it something more than just digital flashcards.

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>>146913497
You can make it so you have to enter the answer into anki. But either way unless you really have no self control and show the answer without actually thinking of what the word is then they're pretty much the same thing except you have to do more shit so it takes longer in memrise

When in the guide they say you can start read native material after the 2K mark, it means 2K reviews in the Anki stats or something else?
Because in Anki stats I learned 1104 kanji but in the kanji grid I get only 500, so I need to learn 900 more or 1500 more before start reading?
which is best?

>>146913497
All of those activities still boil down to "look at this and don't forget it" just with more bullshit added. Anki can also do most of those things (not multiple choice) if you make the card types for them, read the manual.

If it REALLY helps you learn, go for it, it will take longer though. It's adding far more time to an already incredibly time consuming activity.

I suggest using a site like memorangapp.com where it is easy to import a list of words via excel sheet. I use it occasionally when my leeches have piled up and I need to really drill them.

I highly recommend sticking with anki though, because in the long term, you want an SRS that is reliable, even without internet access. Tying yourself to any particular website could get annoying pretty quickly, and there are so many tools available to easily add cards to anki you'd be a fool to not take advantage of them.

Is Japanese syntax more flexible than that of English? And does it contain diminutives for nouns (like piglet in English)?

>>146913624
dat オ tho

>>146913639
It means around ~2000 vocab words known overall (not including silly katakana loan words). Depending on what the words actually are, it could be far more or far less than 1104 kanji.

Basically, just build up some semblance of a basic vocabulary before you start. It just helps to reduce some of the excessive amount of lookups you'll have to do when starting.

>>146914382

I'll wait till I reach 3K works in Anki
I'm also will take it little slow cause I'm starting a degree in 2 months so maybe next year I will start reading, I will do anki daily but only that

>>146913756
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/clause
http://lang-8.com/389207/journals/265612609255353226510386792083167841386

>>146914506
If you have the time, read sooner rather than later.

The only reason it suggests not reading straight away is that it would be too painful looking up literally every word. 2k is more than enough to get started, and putting it off will just gimp your grammar abilities.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5IPArDxO40

>>146914614

I will try but in 2 month I start learning in the university so it will be hard to learn Jap when I need to learn physics and math
but I will try to start reading

I thought I could start talking to a japanese person so I went on chatpad but the very first words stumped me.

日本語を入力できているの で
相当勉強されたんですね？

I am just a beginner but I want to have someone to practice with.

>>146914614
i recently started using lang8 and some people write really long and helpful shit that's mostly legible and its asking me to correct it, of course i know thats the point but still...

Damm helpful and friendly japs..curses

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What did he mean by this?