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Partial spoilers out.
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BRA a best.
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Oh yeah, Grisha a whore. Used goods. Man slut. Zeke is Eren's haffu onii-san.
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Goodnight Sweet Commander Handsome.
You'll always live in our hearts.
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>>146846068
That's obviously Grisha's father.
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Do you think we'll finally see Marie and the kids when the SL inform Nile of Erwin's death? Will one of their children look like little Erwin? Place your bets.
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I'M GONNA MARRY HANGE!!
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It really fires a neuron.
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>Eren keeps his hand on Armin's bare skin after hugging him
G A Y
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>>146846109
I am placing my bet on naming his kid Erwin
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>>146846097
No, that's obviously Grisha. We didn't wait this long to see a picture of Eren's grandpa.
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>>146846194
>It’s so realistic, I can’t believe it’s a drawing…
>In the back, this was written in father’s handwriting: “This is not a drawing”
Still stupid
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When do you think these two will ally their respective queendoms through a royal marriage between themselves?

Need to start producing heirs with how the life expectancy of royalty has been recently.
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>>146846139
We know Levi, its adorable.
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LM soon.
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>>146846194
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>>146846267
cute
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>>146846246
How so? Seems like the logical thing to put there if you plan on showing that to someone, or yourself if you got mind wiped.
>I know what you're thinking: "Wow, that's an incredible drawing!" It's not. It's not a drawing. It's a photo. And no, you can't reach into it or anything. A photo is blahblahblah.
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Lets honor all those who gave their life for Erens incompetence
>Petra
>Hannes
>Marco
>Gunther
>Oluo
>Eld
Did i miss anyone ?
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>>146846365
Indeed.
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>>146846242
>bitchymin again.
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>>146846288
LM never. But at least we have more panels of them together.
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>>146846361
Baby Zeke has such tiny baby feet it's adorable.
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>>146846408
Grisha and Frieda.
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>>146846417
I love you anon
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>>146846242
>Levi's face in the bottom left panel
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>>146846403
You mean the whole plot of Memento?
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>>146846438
How the fuck would you react in that situation? It's perfectly normal for him to be freaking out. Is that a vinesauce gif?
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>>146846242
>Hanji isn't messing around
The best.
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>>146846499
:3. Also, nice picture. Saved.
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>>146846551
I don't self insert.
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>>146846445
You will see.
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>>146846552
Hanji will be best commander.
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>>146846500
His face.. My heart ;__;
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>>146846598
>I don't self-insert
>thinking about how someone would react to that situation in real life is self-inserting
>but judging someone for having a perfectly realistic reaction is totally fine
Autism.
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>>146846242
Eren looks mentally retarded in the panel above Levi kek. Mikasa knows they fucked up and just caused a boat load of fuckery onto their friend's shoulders.
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>>146846230
Lol good point. And it wouldn't make sense for grisha to carry a family photo that he isn't in
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>inb4 they found a photo of Armin's parents in the basement, taken after they were slaughtered by the MP/didans
>"they knew too much, i had to kill them"
would heartily kek.
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>>146846638
>this easily triggered.
Try not replying to every single post.
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>>146846768
>strawmanning this hard
Try not to live any longer. The triggered one here is you, faggot.
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>>146846408
His squad during Trost.
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I love this angel.
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>>146846818
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>>146846793
You're searching for things to get offended by, at this point.
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>>146846818
KEK
I got that ending.
Goldfish-kun best boy.
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>>146846890
And you're shitposting for the sake of shitposting. Fuck off.
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>>146846887
OTP.
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>>146846978
When's Levi going to slap him? I don't have all day.
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>>146846926
Chill, have a Bert.
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>>146846602
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>>146846978
His face looks disgusting. Look at these huge eyes.
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>>146847011
Never.

>>146847038
That's a cute Bert.
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>>146847059
Errytime.
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I just want Hitch to have a friend that isn't dead/crystalized.
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>>146847072
I love his doe eyes. He is such a gorgeous young man.
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>>146846978
Abomination.
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>>146847126
>Hitch as a dog
Hitchiko. Reply with cute Hitches if you get that reference.

>>146847147
We know you are. Hush now, you little bastard.
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>>146847073
Annie is aways cute too.
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>>146846978
Isayama went in too deep into the uncanny valey.
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>>146847195
Hitch will always wait for her Annie to come back. and her Marlo ;_;
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Through the wall he threw me
I knew he'd never hurt me
Daddy watched me sleeping
I've been praying for you silently
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>>146847268
Eh?
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>>146847301
Did Grisha abuse Eren?
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AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>146847358
No, but he abused and abandoned Zeke.
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>>146847373
Justice.
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>>146847404
What was the original picture like?
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>>146847373
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>>146847438
Anon it's pretty goddamn clear isn't it?
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>>146847438
He was standing on a box.
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>>146847403
Big Bro Zeke will protect his ototo until the end of time. He'll give him relationship advice, too.
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>>146847496
This picture looks like what would happen if EL had a son.
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>>146847488
kek
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>>146846408
>no one trained him on how to become a fully functional titan user
>think of how many people died for Erwin's and Levi's incompetence
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Eren's such a fucking tragic character. I can't even hate him anymore, I just feel bad for him. He feels dead inside when he's not feeling nothing but rage, he feels broken and empty, he just wants someone to make him feel better, he's only ever okay when he's around Armin, his dad had an entire other family he only just now found out about, he watched his mom and other civilians get murdered, he carries the weight of the world...He has so many issues and he just wants to preserve himself now.

Makes me feel like shit, honestly. I wonder if they have therapists outside the walls, because he sure as hell could benefit from it.
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>>146847709
People say he's a shitty character.

I say those people don't realize how bad the things that happened and that he witnessed happen actually are.
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>>146847709
Eren is my second favorite character.
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>>146847709
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RwUKa-XJ6g
I read that while listening to this song.

Thanks for making me cry.
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>>146847776
Go die. Your songs are gay.
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>>146847709
Eren is trash.
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>>146847759
Hahahahaha AoT faggots everybody
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>>146847759
I used to think he was a shitty character, but now I realize there's a fair amount of depth to him. The only problem is this depth isn't expressed well in the manga. The interview about how he is in the guidebook is what changed my mind. The more Isayama shat on him, the more I felt bad for him.

>>146847776
Ouch.

>>146847806
I think that song is pretty fucking sad.
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>>146847852
>AoT
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>>146847852
>AoT
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>>146846242
Is there a TL for these panels yet? My moon is too weak to pick out more than a few words here and there.
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>>146847852
>AoT faggots
Go witness a massacre and try not to have complete hatred after that.
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>>146847950
Hange tells Armin he's a titan now over Erwin, Armin says no way that's retarded.
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>>146847852
Kill yourself.
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>>146847895
The reason SnK isn't as good as it could be is because Isayama fucked up presenting the most tragic main character he could. He tried to something like Miura but not as nearly well developed.
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>>146847950
Hanjo Kazooie: We expect that you will contribute to humanity, Armin.
Marminlade: ........Ah. You chose the commander over me?? ...This is...stupid...
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>>146847709
That's because guidebook. Without the guidebook, the readers wouldn't feel the really harsh problems he has inside, because Isayama failed to make a good development. Well, this is his first manga... and probably the last
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>>146847404
I tried
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>>146848035
It's because he had something much darker planned in the beginning but then switched halfway to appease to fans and collect that big paycheck.
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>>146848035
>>146848058
Such a shame. I think Isayama can improve if he takes time off after he finishes AOT. He did say he had other stories he wants to write iirc. I can use AOT as means of learning, for the both good and bad. I think it's vital to show how tragic characters think, even if it's unrelated to the plot.
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>>146848060
Fix up those small patches in their hair and you're golden.
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>>146848058
He'll get a blackmark as a mangaka because of this bad arcs and bad character developement of the main character. Not only guidebook, but it feels like Eren's actions keep going in the same damn circle over and over and Isayama just made Eren's psychological revolutions poorly/corny: power up courage and bad pacing.
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>>146848060
Thanks anon. That's a lot better.
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>>146847895
>this depth isn't expressed well in the manga
Because Isayama is terrible at writing characters. He either over does it with forceful flashbacks, inner monologues and exchanges or he just completely ignores their emotions and avoids personal interactions. Isayama's a decent storyteller, but he's gotta put more thought into expressing the development of his characters.
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>>146848125
Honestly the rest of us probably would have been happier with the darker version of SnK. Miura literally had no limits as to how dark he went and Berserk has turned out to be one of the best mangas out there.
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>>146846242
reminder that Erwin died for this faggot
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>>146847269
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Tragic, depressed, mentally ill, etc. characters are really difficult to write. If he writes another gruesome story, I hope he can learn how to write these characters and break his fans' hearts properly--stomp them into sad little chunks of meat.

Personally, I still think the characters--all of them--can be redeemed. Their thought processes are a good start. Characters who think in their head often live in their head, so there's that. Characters like Eren who are more emotional and out there can be shown in their actions/facial expressions how they feel and what they're thinking if illustrated well.
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>>146847496
I hope he introduces Eren to coffee, and teaches him how to play baseball.
>Eren with coffee jitters
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>>146847709
>tfw he about to experience more pain
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>>146848161
Their game costumes are pretty cute desu. Do you have any more like that?
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>>146848060
a bit more
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>>146848187
Worst part is he literally just bitched about having to show characters' sentiments on his blog.

I wish I could speak nip and convince him into having a 12 hour skype session with me so I can teach him how to write his characters better. I'm not saying I'm the best but everyone who I share my stories with say that all of my characters are expressed well and one of my friends actually cried in front of me after reading my short story.

Not to blog or toot my own horn, I'm just saying. Experience. I have it, he could learn from it.
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>>146847852
>AoT
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>>146848376
POST POST POST POST
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>>146848376
>Worst part is he literally just bitched about having to show characters' sentiments on his blog.
What else did he say?
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>>146848307
>Eren drinks coffee and rambles to Zeke like that kid from the Iron Giant
I want to see this.
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>>146848376
Your fan fictions are shit desumin.
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>>146848425
That would actually be really cute.
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>>146848221
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>>146848159
Isayama seems to be better at "writing" instead of drawing. He should try a light novel after this. The whole Erwin thing, for example, was poorly developed despite we got a lot of Erwin later, to the point Isayama needed to explain it in the guidebook. To me, you fail as a writer when the guidebook makes the plot more rich and clear than seven years of a manga.
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>>146848307
Maybe Eren can feel less empty when he bonds with his brother over baseball, coffee, and all the other cool shit they definitely have. So that when he finally reunites with AM he might actually be able to make amends with them, Armin in particular.

>>146848408
P-Post what?

>>146848410
That's all he said.

>>146848425
That's a good mental image.
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>>146848327
Their costumes are the best. I only have a few.

>>146848349
Perfect.
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This is the darkest thing Isayama has draw as of yet. RIP glorious CT.
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>>146847709
Don't worry, Big Bro Zeke will save him from despair.
>yfw Eren is dying of coordinate cancer and can never be saved
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>>146848517
I'm disturbed by how one half is of CT's face and the other somewhat resembles Armin's Skeletor titan.
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>>146848549
But who will save Big Bro Zeke from Big Bro Zeke And His Daddy Issues?
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Ymir a stinky shit.
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Now that Hange's squad is no longer alive, does that mean Levi will bathe her by himself?
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>>146846756
When was Levi's mother revealed?
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>>146848517
>RIP
We'll still see more of him yet
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>>146848458
Yes. The writing and plot was there. I would say the character development was probably there too. The guidebook was probably there after he realized the cash-grab alternate plot was actually starting to piss people off.

His problem was transition from writing to manga.
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>>146848669
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Catch up senpai
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>>146848425
That's exactly what I had in mind desu.
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>>146846551
People would be bitching if he wasn't upset about Erwin's death.
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>>146846818
>named my goldfishes Sawney and Bean
>had them since the anime premiered
Those fuckers are resilient as hell
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>>146848565
Nope. That's only Bert's titan without skin. Titan appearance is individual. The shifter form will be only a slightly change. The CT is dead.
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>>146848517
This is not the darkest thing he has drawn.
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>>146848673
KEK
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>>146848425
CUTE
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I want to hold Mikasa's hand.
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>>146848463
post your short stories or linkz
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>>146848784
We know, Levi.
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>>146848463
You aint fooling me Mrs. Smith
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>>146848458
>He should try a light novel after this
I was just thinking that. He expresses himself and his ideas in interviews and the guidebook very well. I feel like I actually understand some characters and their motives better after reading the guidebook because he failed to effectively transfer his true image over to the manga. And that's not surprising considering he isn't the greatest at drawing. He should stick to writing.
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>>146848784
Calm down Armin.
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Friendly reminder that the BIG REVEAL OF SNK that Isayama has been hyping us up to for years is a straight rip off of M. Knight Shamalamadingdong

How does this make you feel /snk/?
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>>146848727
Well goldfish can live 10-15 years if cared for properly. Shame most people don't give a shit since they're 'only' fish/small animals, as if only dogs/cats deserve proper care.
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>>146848792
I'm sorry, I've never published them online and don't plan to. It's a comic as well. Maybe one day when I stop being a pussy and submit my drafts to a publishing company.

I can say, however, that ironically enough the one I mentioned has to do with baseball, onii-chans, and finding hope in a seemingly bleak situation that you created in your own head
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>>146848746
I'd argue this is worse.
I'd like to see him redraw it.

Does anyone have the unedited spread? I tried stitching but there's pieces missing.
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>>146849009
Where the hell is this from? Is this someone's bad dream?
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>>146848988
>I'm sorry, I've never published them online and don't plan to. It's a comic as well. Maybe one day when I stop being a pussy and submit my drafts to a publishing company

Then you can fuck off.
Isayama's at least publishing his work. You're just complaining about it like a pedantic loser on a taiwanese tapestry-weaving board.
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Fanart of EZ playing baseball, video games and doing other brotherly activities fucking when?
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>>146848988
Oh well. We will wait for the day you publish your stuff.
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>>146849064
Did you pick up the manga where the anime left off or something?

It's the spread from chapter 21.
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>>146849071
I'm allowed to complain. Criticism is important.
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>>146848843
I don't think it's just an issue of skill - I think the story he's trying to tell is too broad for a limited run manga format. It worked well when he was focusing only on Eren and the others were supporting characters, but in recent arcs, a ton of other characters have stepped forward to become important. Trying to contain all their character arcs in a 25-ish volume run, 45 pages a chapter, is incredibly confining. He does a good job stretching these limitations a bit by conveying complex emotions in single panels (something a lot of other manga series fail at), but there's no room for a lot of the important side or filler info. He's committed to restricting the chapters to plot-relevant details.

I feel like he started the manga thinking he was telling a plot-driven story, but due to his inexperience, discovered along the way that he's telling a character-driven story instead. And that story's too big for the format he has chosen.

I agree, I hope he does do light novels after this.
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>>146849071
Do you realize all that happens when you publish shit?

Do you realize how much extra work goes into to get something publishable?
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>>146848843
According to Isayama, he only go to understand Eren's character once he heard his voice in the anime. He's claimed the anime has helped him understand his characters better.
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>>146849093
Soon.
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>>146848977
inb4 we actually get a straight up mist ending where Eren kills everyone left alive then just as he's about to kill himself there's no bullet left/people come to save them
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>>146849106
I read it all the way through, but only as the issues come out. So chapter 21 would have been years ago.
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>>146849123
Just don't think your complaints are worth any more than some vagrant yelling drunkenly from a street corner.
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>>146849180
Remember a woman who wanted to rescue her children saved herself as well.
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>>146849154
I actually think the anime was the best thing that ever happened to this manga, as from the fact that it caused Isayama to kind of fuck it up as much as the anime made it better.
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>>146849204
The same could be said about yourself, no? And I'd consider the vagrant's words. After all, who am I to judge the person the words are coming from? He could be spouting insightful wisdom for all I know.

Or...Screaming about how he wants a big booty bitch, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.
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>>146849180
>Isayama rips off a bunch of American movies
>Japan loves it
>Americans know about it and obviously despise it

So it's official he ripped off The Village, I wonder what else has """""""""inspired"""""""""" him for SnK
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>>146849180
He was talking about the movie.
So Eren and the SL will go to Titan Town and get plucked off, only for Eren to kill everyone else when the situation gets too dire.

Then the wall cultists and oblivious populace somehow end up rescued/spared, showing that the SL was better off not doing anything.

Fucking hate that movie.
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>>146849221
I don't think any shingeki will get such kind treatment.
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I think Isayama is a better writer than most current popular manga artists. It's just that a lot of people held him to a high standard but you know what? His shit is still miles better than Nardo, bleach and fairy tail.
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>>146848986
They are spoiled though, just got them new gravel and some plants and a nice new barrel so they do whatever goldfishes do when I'm gone. Guess I am in for a long haul with those two
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>>146849320
What's the plot of The Village? Also this idea is hardly new. The walls themselves, and Ymir, and Utgard, and a shit ton of other shite was inspired by norse mythology.
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>>146848718
But how do we know that Zeke is Levi's dad?
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>>146849363
Yeah, but I think that's because he doesn't care about pandering and he has a thing for gore and disgusting stuff. is he an autist?
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>>146849410
We don't cause he's not.
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>>146849180
>>146849339
>>146849356
Isayama confirmed he won't massacre the characters in the end, as much as he supposedly wanted to in the original ending
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>>146849428
>is Isayama an autist? backed with evidence.
This is the best post I've seen all day.
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>>146849320
Happens all the time.
Also Hunger Games ripped off Battle Royale anyway. This would be sweet revenge.

>>146849339
Yeah, that's probably how it's going to go down. I think it might be cool if Eren was the one who killed everyone and it wasn't a consented suicide.
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>>146849180
Not looking forward to the day he may have to shoot/slice the neck of Armin. Or vice versa.
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>>146849473
Where did he say this?
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>>146849408
I feel like people overemphasize the influence of Norse mythology on SNK. It's there, but in a sparse and superficial way, and it hasn't noticeably come into play in a long time. World War II and popular media (especially film & games) are far more prevalent.
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>>146849473
See now that would have just been the shittiest ending possible.

The best endings are not when all the characters get massacred in some stupid fashion.
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>>146849473
In the latest guidebook he said he was going with his original ending which is the mist ending aka Eren kills EM + all of his remaining comrades because he thinks there's no way out and then all of a sudden that girl from the walking dead shows up with tanks n shiet.
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>>146849410
That's not revealed yet.

>>146849473
He just confirmed in his latest interview he's just going with his original ending.
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>>146848986
Can confirm. Most people have no idea how to care for fish. I had a goldfish for 8 years but I had to give him away to a family member and he fucked died in like a month. /blog
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>>146849521
How can you possibly enjoy such an ending? aren't you invested in some of the characters?
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>>146849493
I got the image in my head of him blowing Armin, Levi and Mikasa's brains out and it is glorious.
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You gotta be fucking kidding me.
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>>146849637
It's been already translated?
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>>146849637
Commander shitmin confirmed
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>>146849519
I would argue people underestimate it. Castle Utgard was blatantly named after the stronghold in Jotunheim where Utgard-Loki, a beastly, ape-like being resides and tests Thor and Loki with their skill. Ymir is, well, it's pretty obvious that Ymir's backstory will probably be similar to NM Ymir, the proto jotun. Then the walls that surround Asgard being built by a jotun (who was then killed because the gods are cunts who refused to pay).

There's also Annie's similarities with Skadi, the jotun goddess of ice, snow, and skiing, who came to seek revenge for her father after he was killed because he stole Idunna's apples, which are basically fountains of youth. She wreaked havoc on Asgard and her general personality is similar to Annie, too. The only problem is she marries (albeit very temporarily) the Vanir god of muh ocean and muh knowledge, Njord. But they have a shit marriage and break up so AA not confirmed endgame, hopefully.
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>>146849637
http://ningen-suki.tumblr.com/post/150052683279/trash-god-there-it-is-hange-no-matter-what
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>>146849563
I want fish again but I want to wait until I have space for a big (120litres+) tank. With how big goldfish can grow when given the space and the amount of waste they produce, that should hopefully do a pair of them well. I know some people just use big storage bins etc
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>>146849593
I am.

But just murdering them all is stupid. It's a overplayed trope that has been used so poorly that the subpar version of today's 'massacre' is the standard.

There are very few mangas that even come close to using a massacre effectively, and fewer still that have championed it. Berserk is one of those fateful few.

But most times when massacres really help the story to make it something truly great the massacre doesn't end the story.
>berserk
>FMA
>Elfen Lied
>GITS
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>>146849637
Do not fucking tell me he's the commander. I am an arminfag and I swear to fucking god if he is the commander I will declare war on Isayama.
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I just want this Mary Sue shit to end.
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>>146849637
IT IS RIDICULOUS, WHAT A RIDICULOUS SHITTERY TO MAKE THEM CHOOSE BETWEEN HUMANITYS SAVIOR AND SOME KID WHO WAS CLEVER ONCE OR TWICE

Should have been something like erwin or sasha where the obvious answer is erwin, armin aint ever gonna be erwin
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>>146849408
Basically a bunch of people in 19th century Pennsylvania live in a tiny isolated village in fear of monsters in the woods

But it's all a ruse cruise by the Elders who dress up as monsters to scare people into staying in the village, and the main character finds out that the whole thing was a lie after she gets out of the walls that surround the forest the village is in, and they're really in the present day guarded by Park Rangers hired by the wealthy head elder to keep people away from them because the Head Elder used his family fortune to buy a wildlife preserve in bumfuck nowhere, and they even got an agreement for their area to be a no fly zone

I'm not sure if SnK is going to be in the present day, although I guess I wouldn't be surprised at this point, but the premise is the same except for the Titans being real monsters
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>>146849637
2 nukes were not enough.
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>>146849637
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY ISN'T HANJI THE COMMANDER!??!? I LOVE ARMIN BUT SHE SHOULD BE THE COMMANDER, NOT HIM! ERWIN EVEN FUCKING CHOSE HER, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK THIS GAY EARTH AND FUCK YOU ISAYAMA
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>>146849637
Even I think this is bullshit.
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>>146849125
As weekly format would have demanded another type of writing, I am afraid. I think this could work as a novel, with some few drawings here and there. I really like Isayama's style, but he falls short because he needs to transmit too much information in just 40 pages per month.
Also, see Dorohedoro, not saying is better or worst, but the key is how Hayashida decided to focus in the world building and characters in a more campy and comfy setting, instead of dealing with really complex topics that really need a big amount of space and attention.
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>>146849637
>Hanji isn't commander.
>When Erwin appointed her as next commander.
Fuck this shit.
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>>146849684
Even though it's not Norse myth, Grisha's name is interesting too. Grisha is a diminutive of Grigory.
>In one biblical apocrypha, the "Grigori" are known as fallen angels who mated with women, giving birth to the Nephilims (human-angel hybrids) , who are described as GIANTS in the Genesis.
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>>146849715
Well, there's a massacre that already happened. The SL lost almost all their members.
And we can't really compare Berserk with Shingeki. The golden Arc was glorious, but it's only 20% of the actual story. besides didn't Miura say he was going to go for a bittersweet ending?
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I really doubt this means Armin will literally become commander, why the fuck would Hanji just hand over her position to a kid? I think she's just impressing upon Armin the importance of Erwin's sacrifice and the burden he must now carry.
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>>146849637
Sorry if I missed it but where's the link to the translations?
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>>146849637
>I'm commander Erwin's replacement?
No. Who the fuck implied that? COMMANDER Hanji just said she expects a lot from him, not that he's replacing Erwin.
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>>146849765
>Clever once or twice.
He only saved the entire series 5-6 times.

But he's kind of a pussy and I have no idea how he will become the new commander of the Survey Corpse.

I think he's going to have go through something very dark and awful again, or become adjusted to the idea that people are going to die on his account for him to become a tough man like Erwin was.
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>>146849637
Isayama is really forcing Armin or is this just fun posting?
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>>146849408
>What's the plot of The Village?
>It set in a 19th century town
>the elders of the village tell the villagers not to go out to the woods or chupacabra will get them
>One guy wants to go to neighboring village to get supplies
>the elders tell them no
>dude gets stabbed and his fiancee gets permission to leave the village and get medical supplies
>gets attaacked by the chupacabra who turns out to be the elders in costume
>she doesnt know because she is blind
>climbs wall ends up at a Rangers station because the town is actually in a National Forest
>the elders created the village in the 70s to protect themselves of the cruel outside world
>
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>>146849637
I hate this faggot. I didn't even mind him before but god damnit do I hate him so much now that my second least favorite is actually likable in comparison.
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>>146849637
Hange is the commander, it's just that Erwin was humanity's hope, now that's Armin. Remember she called him that.
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>>146849799
So it's all for the entertainment of the wealthy guy? Damn.

>>146849845
Hey wait a minute...eno, is that you?
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>>146849637
>Erwin died for this fart

I can't
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>>146849637
It was obvious Armin was a younger Erwin from very early on. He thinks tactically. He's the only character in the entire thing aside from Hange who could really plan things out like Erwin could.

That said still choosing to rez Armin over Erwin is completely retarded and a mistake. It would take years to develop Armin into a confident leader; Erwin already had everything. Plus he could have then seen the inside of the basement. Good job Levi you stupid fucking faggot.
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>>146849942
Fucking this.

Hanji is the commander, jesus christ.
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>>146849946
I'm not eno but I loved the shit of that post
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>>146849877
Wait until it's been translated by fuku-shuu. This person who translated this scene is known for missing the context behind things. I really doubt it's as literal as they're making it. Hanji is still gonna be commander.
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>>146849942
Okay, I'm calm, I'm calm. Hanjo is the commander, Armin is just da hope.
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>>146849855
He was going to go for a bittersweet ending.

It's going to involve a whole lotta death. I see the series ending in the next 5 years.
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>>146849637
At least Isayama kept that turd away from the basement
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>>146849637
I cant rage anymore with this, it was fun watching this trainwreck of a manga but now its just getting sad.
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>>146849684
See, this is what I'm saying: all that stuff was relevant 4 arcs ago or earlier. There have been no new reveals or developments since the Utgard arc that have tied to Norse mythology without stretching and trying to retroactively make it fit.

I've always felt there were superficial bits if Norse mythology only as a byproduct of its ties to Nazism and Isayama's WWII fetish. It definitely contributed to the creation of his world, but the whole thing is such a pastiche that pulling one thread too hard and ignoring the others seems strange to me.
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>>146849875
>>146849688
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>>146849996
>Wait until it's been translated by fuku-shuu.
>fuku-shuu
>a chink
>thinking fukushit's chink tran-translation is superior to a nip speaker's
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>>146850034
I thought I was resigned from raging at this Armin shit but I'm not. Fug.
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>>146850019
>I see the series ending in the next 5 years.
Make that 10 unless he quits idol master.
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>>146849900
It really is the village. Pixis even said twice that there are songs where humanity will finally stop fighting each other, and that will only happen when there is a common enemy.
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>>146849563
Thats what I am scared of. If I decide to move where they except no pets not even fish, I have no one I can trust with my fishes.
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>>146850077
I thought idol master was ended?

And he has had it planned out for many years. It seems that everything that comes out now is especially well written.

I foresee him putting idol master on hold to finally finish this thing, as he did when he started idol master.
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>>146849637
Wow. Fuck Isayama and fuck his self-insert.
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>>146850008
>Hanjo is the commander for now*
until Armin is ready to take the position for himself. You know it's going to happen.
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So now Armin
>Held hands with Eren
>Is a shifter
>And also the pet/symbol of the manga
>And now gets embraced by Eren
>And also is the new symbol of humanity
What's next?
Is he going to steal the "childhood friend" postion from Mikasa?
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>>146849942
Isayama really has the guts to pull this shit.
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>>146850063
Actually he's right. Ningen proved they don't pay much attention to the manga and interpreted a bunch of shit wrong during the past month. Fuku translates from Chinese yeah but she's more accurate than CR sometimes.
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>>146849838
Yeah, weekly isn't the solution, either. I think any sort of serialized manga became the wrong format for the story he's been trying to tell since the revolutionary arc.
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Hanji will conveniently die in the next volume. Mark my words.
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>>146850183
I know it is but I don't want it to happen until Armin's at least 20.
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>>146850238
Not gonna happen. She could've died four times now. And now she, along with the MCs, got to see the basement. She's as important as Levi now.
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>>146849093
>Zeke fanart with BR portrays him as a creepy perverted uncle
>Zeke fanart with Eren will show him as a fun big brother who loves his ototo
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>>146850218
>fuku
>more accurate than CR
>when she doesn't even speak nip
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>>146850238
Stop. I swore I wouldnt drop this fucking manga even if characters I like die..

I want to see this through to the end but if she gets killed off in some retarded way I might just drop it.
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>>146850065
You just have to accept it now anon, Armin is going to stay and there is going to be more asspulls and how great Armin is.

Its going to be hell
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>>146850318
For real. There are some posts where you can see her translation and the official translation and then the japanese to compare. She's always more accurate.
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>>146850280
18 is good too. Plenty of military leaders throughout history who were in their teens.
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>>146850063
Fuku-shuu has been translating the chapters b4 crunchyroll for as long as I've been following the manga, and their translations are proven to be as accurate if not more than CR's. They have credibility, unlike nigen-suki, who constantly injects their own opinions into things and misunderstands the context. The best translators at least try to remain unbiased.
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>>146850238
Good weirdo a shit
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>>146848673
>Blort tulpa
Noice
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>>146849532
>>146849537
>>146849855
>>146850019
Ok I got the ending then

>the SL is pinned down and fucked in an isolated location
>a horde of Titans are pouring in
>Eren is the only shifter with any energy left, Armin is passed out
>the core cast of characters surround Eren, ready to fight
>Eren makes the toughest decision of his life
>he kills everyone else to spare them long and painful deaths
>he then prepares to die at the hands of the horde
>all of the sudden, a loud noise fills the air
>a formation of AC-130s and A-10 Warthogs fill the skies
>they rain hellfire on the horde of Titans on the ground
>Eren just barely makes it to cover as he shifts back as a human
>the AC-130s and A-10 Warthogs easily butcher the Titan horde and then fly away
>suddenly a coalition army appears on the horizon
>the series ends with the coalition forces looking at Eren flabbergasted why he's screaming crying after the air support saved him
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All these Armin-related asspulls are making it hard for me to love Armin.

I mean, I love him, but holy fuck I'm about this close to dropping this goddamn series if Hanji dies any time soon or he really is the commander.
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>>146850393
>Not liking weirdo
Why? she's best grill
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>>146850318
I'm saying there was mistakes CR made that she corrected on a few occasions, like that scene with Zeke talking about Annie and that translation CR royally fucked up with Bert. I trust her translations more that that ErwL fujo who firmly believes Armin has Bert's memories.
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>>146850391
She even makes some post comparing CR, chink and moon, alongside her other friend I can't remember her name. She is a LMfag, yes, but when somebody asks her, she just answers any question related to translations.
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>>146850189
Editor-kun possibly had to force Isayama to keep Armin out of Team Basement.

Probably couldn't handle the extra chapter that it would have taken to add a scene where Armin is the one who tells manlet to knock down the door and about how the key must be for something else, not to mention the extra pages of everyone fellating him with LH thinking "as expected from Erwin's replacement" and the added flashbacks to pretend that Armin also had a connection to the Jaeger house.
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>>146850387
So at least 3 years, since he's only 15. But I don't think ZekZek would wait that long without launching another attack.

>>146850424
Does he cut Armin's nape? Also that would be a hellish ending. I'd want to kill myself after reading that.
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>>146850318
CR consistently fucks up bubble placement at the very least. Like in 83 when Mikasa was patching Jean up. Everyone else had the opposite interaction.
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Friendly reminder that Bert died a screaming coward, a fitting end!
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>>146849637

i was thinkin this was ridiculous and stupid then realized that there's like 10 people left that he's in charge of so what the fuck ever lmao.
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What would make you drop the manga?
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>>146850391
>fuku-shuu
>unbiased
>chopped up half of Erwin's guidebook interview because she's too butthurt so her "fans" can deliberately misinterpret him because "tee hee I checked with fukushuu's translations!"

>>146850365
I understand what you mean, like with last month's "hell isn't ready for Erwin" shit. I just find it really weird that for someone who doesn't even speak japanese to be praised and regarded as the "official voice of the fandom" when it's her fans making all those contributions and she's just taking credits.
Maybe I have too many vendettas.
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>>146850189
>inb4 he also becomes the next coordinate holder by the end because Eren is dying and they still need his power
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>>146850572
Bert being revived.
Maybe Armin getting CT.
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Do you think this could be related or the anime just made shit up
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>>146850572
I want to say more Arminfaggotry but I'm still here even after these spoilers so at this point nothing. However I am losing a lot of excitement over it, even when we've finally reached the basement.
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>>146850482
>her other friend
Suniuz, I think. She makes corrections sometimes when the Chinese or CR translations are inaccurate.That's why I trust their translations more.
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>>146850572
I'll drop when my favorite dies. Only reason I'm still reading this shit manga.
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>>146850583
Somehow that infuriates me much less than him being commander.

>>146850531
And the Garrison when they force them to join.

>>146850636
Definitely related. That uniform is probably Zeke's. But why is there a hand around where his head should be and his arm is missing?
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>>146850572
Levi or Hange die and I'm done.
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>>146850636
Didn't Araki say he put them there because they looked cool?
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>>146850424
That's fucking awesome. I'd enjoy the hell out of that ending but I know it would go down as the edgiest mango in history and just about everyone on /a/ will rip on it.
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>>146850636
Maybe memories from grisha as a kid passed on to eren?
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>>146850706
Maybe but I don't trust nor like that faggot.
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>>146850477
>ErwL fujo who firmly believes Armin has Bert's memories.
Hahaha, that part was pretty retarded. Isn't this a popular nip theory though?
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>>146850636
Zeke's toy were pretty girly.
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>>146850575
Spotted the EwLfujo.
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>>146850572
Hange dies and that's it for me
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>>146850700
Fucking this. If they do die it will be in some retarded way too.

RIP veterans you will all be missed.
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>>146850575
>when it's her fans making all those contributions and she's just taking credits
I keep hearing this but haven't seen it. I'm curious.
>Maybe I have too many vendettas.
Explain.
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Holy shit, Armin isn't the new Commander. Chill the fuck out. He's a "replacement" because he was chosen to live over Erwin and he's the ideas guy/humanity's hope.
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>>146850572
I wanted to drop it after the Armin asspull and Erwin dying, but I am so heavily invested in this shit, I want to see it to the end. At this point, I am so disappointed in this story that anything stupid that happens after this will not faze me.
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>>146847373
thisHurtMyAutism.png
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>>146850759
Retardation isn't limited to the Amerifats, unfortunately.
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>>146850690

the powers that be inside the walls have been trying to dismantle the SC since they started. Unless Historia is going to turn out to be a tyrant (entirely possible desu) there's no way she'd be able to convince people to combine the Garrison and SC after this. It's everything the politicians wanted: Wall Maria back, so they can push out the commoners, and no more annoying SC.
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>>146850742
Same here.

I think they're extremely vague hints to snk's original ending. Like the dead soldiers look a lot like Levi's new squad.

But interestingly Eren is not there so maybe he really does end up killing everyone in the end.
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>>146850502
Nah he would probably crush him to death like everyone else, that'd be a much quicker and painless death than being slowly eaten alive and possibly bleeding out in a Titan's stomach

Actually, I just thought of something much worse
>Eren and Armin massacre everyone in their Titan forms
>they prepare to die together
>the Warthogs and AC-130's swoop in
>an A-10 Warthog slices Armin's head clean off, right at the nape
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>>146848805
This delusion.
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>>146850924
>this butthurt
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>>146850808
I keep seeing her sourcing shits unproperly and stealing credits for fan contents that other fans make.
Also she takes absolutely everything from baidu. If it isn't for the fact that she posts consistently and has a good nip speaking friend who will help her with anything, I really don't understand why she's so relevant in this fandom.
>>146850808
I've just been around here for too long.
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>>146850502
>>146850900
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>>146850900
Honestly it's sounding more like Armin will be the only one living to the end. Since CT's power is "God," I can see him taking King Reiss' place and continuing the tyranny and ignorance in the walls.
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>>146850899
>no blonde bowl cut in sight
Dodged a bullet there. Of course he could always die before then...ugh.

>>146850900
STOP HURTING ME LIKE THIS.
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>>146851041
Armin would be the blonde soldier in front.
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>>146851079
P-Proof?
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>>146850814
Yes. Of course this is out of context. I love Armin. It's enough Isayama, leave him alone.
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>>146851104
I can't find a bigger picture but this looks about right.
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>>146850985
Not really relevent if you just wait until the CR translation and not go into tumblr. I never heard of her until some faggot here keep posting her tumblr and decided she was the go to person for the translations. Chinkfag was our go to guy but people ruined that.
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>>146850523
AHHHH! send gelp
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I tried to be the middle-man between you and this list
I couldn't move as the footsteps neared closer to me from the monsters that feed
I swore that I wouldn't bleed
I won't bleed
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>>146851286
It's kind of hard to ignore when lots of people on tumblr, reddit and here keep bringing her up.
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>>146849942
wasnt all those reaction really funny? ehehe
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>>146850985
I don't care what she does in her free time honestly so long as she provides good translations. Sure, Chinese translations aren't always accurate but she has a Japanese friend who corrects the shit Chinese and CR got wrong, so I still think reading her translations is the best way to read the manga at the moment. CR is so lackluster and wrong far too often.
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>>146851286
>Chinkfag was our go to guy but people ruined that

No, Ishuehue ruined it by first delaying their releases because of a simulpub, then going further and dropping the publication altogether. Whenever we get chinese scans first chinkfag was always up to the task even if there were faggots who whined about his memeing.

Now HS has dropped it and CR is barring the chapters from being accessed by anyone without premium.

The future isn't bright.
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>>146851250
Looks more like Erwin. Hair too short, unless he cut it. I really hope it's just random soldiers. If it's not, then I hope Armin either keeps his stupid haircut or grows it out longer.
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>>146851390
This. At this point fukushit is just a name on the Internet, and if she/they is not getting any monetary profit with it, why care? I know it sounds harsh, but fighting to have an "identity" in internet is pretty stupid.
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>>146850572
some of those shitty shipp being canon
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>>146851448
>but fighting to have an "identity" in internet is pretty stupid.
That's probably my issue with her. And Yonkou too. Except at least he delivers spoilers sometimes.
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I want to hug Zeke.
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>>146851400
>CR is barring the chapters from being accessed by anyone without premium
Your kidding, I didnt know that. I used to have the regular CR but I never knew they were going to be assholes and not release the chapter without a premium sub. Does someone dump the CR chapters? I usually dont stick around after the raw release
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>>146849684
Why everyone is talking about AA if he didn't give a shit about her and only talk to her once in the Marco incident? If someone ends rescuing Annie, that's Eren. He was the only person closest to her.
Armin doesn't mean ocean, Mikasa's clan means sea.
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>>146851589
>Does someone dump the CR chapters

Someone has for the past few months that it's been this way and I'm grateful for that. I hope it'll go on but you never know.
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>>146851596
>Armin doesn't mean ocean
Did you forget what his dreams is, though?
Also, I think Zeke or Reiner or someone else will rescue her if she's ever rescued at all.
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>>146851589
nyaa.
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>>146851507
I don't see how that's relevant to her translations. It's not like you're supporting her blog by reading. Just ignore the other shit she posts. I'm sure as hell not paying for CR so I'm depending on her translations unless a kind moon/chinkfag blesses our presence.
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>>146851569
I don't
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>>146851569
You would get tangled with all his body hair.
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>>146851677
Get out of here you child abuser.

>>146851694
His body is hairless you damn degenerate!
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>>146851250
I think they are random soldiers but who knows, maybe Grisha was a mindless Titan and killed them?

Also I wonder who the fuck is the person in pic related, or maybe Araki is just fucking with us
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>>146851425
The soldier has his right arm. It's not Erwin.

And it does look like a slightly older Armin.
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>>146851630
Bless that anon
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>>146851742
what is this
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>>146851677
Worst father. Shit father.

At least Rod cared about Frieda.
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>>146851742
He just put it there because it looked cool.
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>>146851644
I know but his name doesn't mean ocean. If he represents something, it's hope or brightness, literally the sun.
If all this shit prove to be true, it is possible for Eren to use the coordinate to awake her.
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>>146851765
R-RANDOM SOLDIERS! JUST A COINCIDENCE! Or the arm losing wasn't planned initially!

>>146851742
Could be a random titan, or Zeke's bossu, or someone else.
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>>146851630
So I was given a random CR account that has premium, as of now they only have chapter 84 up.

Once I see 85 up I'd be more than happy to get it over to you guys.
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>>146846843
nigga you gay
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>>146851742
Mindless titans eat people dude. Those soldiers were obviously murdered by other people.
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>>146851661
There isn't a copy of CR's 84 available on nyaa right now.
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>>146851842
But he's certainly a man of the sea. Though if we go by light, Sol or Baldr, then? But Baldr is literally Jesus's self insert into NM so unless Isayama considers himself to be Jesus then perhaps Freyr would be a better option. Except he's the twin brother of Freya who I long have suspected to be Hissy.
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I'm confused, I'm always able to see the CR translation like a solid week after the new release and I've never had an account there. eventually it goes on lock down but it's available for a significant amount of time.
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>Grisha has a son who grew up to be a strong war chief.
>Gives the coordinate to his retarded younger son
Grisha better have a good reason for disliking the warriors or else he's a dumbass.
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>>146851869
Thanks Anon. Gotta love those digital scans.
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>>146851910
Lurk moar.
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>>146851918
He isn't a Reiss. That was a vision, not even a memory. The title of chapter 84 was the sun in the midnight. And you have that panel of Armin and the sun behind him, he represents the hope and he is the sun.
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>>146851918
Aaand now I just remembered Freyr dies at Ragnarok after he kills Fenrir. Baldr dies because Loki's a cunt who makes Baldr's twin brother do it.

Maybe I should just accept that Armin will die one day and not from old age.
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>>146851974
Did you go back and check, only to find your stupid ass was wrong?
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>>146852009
I'm not trying to imply he is whatsoever. I hate that theory.

I've never really been able to pin down what Norse god he may or may not have been inspired by outside of Njord, Aegir, and Forseti, but never fully one of them.
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>>146852022
And Sol is a girl and dies by Fenrir but doesn't kill him. Great.
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>>146852022
Fenrir is killed by Víðarr, you retard.
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>>146852156
I got it confused. Chill the fuck out.
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>>146852083
>>146852148
try greek mythology. maybe apollo?
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CR is shit anyway. They've been making more and more translating mistakes and not fixing them.
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>>146852148
Consider the following: Heimdall.

>>146852234
Helios, the personification of the sun, also a titan.

>>146852315
How can you fuck up that badly? Seriously.
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>>146852234
Icarus.
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So monkey troubles is Eren's brother?
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>>146852315
I actually don't buy the released volumes but I noticed that they fix some translations mistakes in the hard copies.
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>>146852339
Will 100% accept Icarus if Armin's titan form has wings.

>>146852357
Seems so.
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>>146852315
Forgive my stupidity, but whata wrong with the page? Is it the 'yea' in the wrong place?
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>>146852315
They translated the exact opposite of who the dialogue was referring to, they could have just looked at the damn picture to figure it out.
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>>146850636
what am i looking at here?
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>>146852414
>this anatomy.
>this wings.
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>>146852435
Their translation contradicts everyone else's. When he was talking about crying and begging for mercy he was talking about himself in 48. As the panel it's over implies. But god forbid CR proofread their shit. The only good part about their releases is that their scans are the same quality as the raws.
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One hug was not enough. They must hug and kiss and cuddle at least 50 more times in the series.
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>>146852630
I actually prefer digital Bessatsu scans. Doesn't get more official than that and they look a lot less grainy.

I pretty much quit CR.
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>>146847852
>AoT
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>>146852315
Is it sameface of Isayama drew Bert and Grisha's wife eyes the same?
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>>146852814
Grisha's wife looks more like Petra.
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>>146852814
>Bert is Eren's brother
wew
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>>146852315
Bort is so ugly. Good riddance.
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>>146852931
I thought she looked like mama Reiss.
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>>146852941
Maybe she's a Fubar?
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My whofu is the best whofu in the series. We know she must exist, but she has never been shown (as far as we know). Who is she?
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>>146853004
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>>146853110
Grisha breed a she-Bert.
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>>146853073
Marie? Armin's mom? That's all I got, I'm stumped.
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>>146853222
Armin's mama.
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>>146852732
I love how within the span of a chapter they go from this to literally standing next to each other as if nothing happened.
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I actually did start the Hitch/Annie monologue fic thing
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>>146853271
I wish I was Armin's mama. Literally the perfect child.
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>>146853294
EM better apologize. But some time seems to have passed, like an hour or so. Since they probably went searching for the camping gear BRZ left laying around so that they could lay a passed out Armin and Sasha down on top of the wall. Or just stole some from the houses.
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>>146853294
Isayama don't know how to proceed. Realistic Levi would cold himself with at least Mikasa.
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>>146853428
>EM better apologize.
They won't. They're too self centered to understand.
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>>146853416
Same. I hope she was a kind mother and not some horrible, abusive slut like Alma.
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>>146853294
What was even the point of the civil war if it ended with LH joining the church of Armin and pretending that nothing happened between ELM?
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Anyone know an ETA for a full dump?
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>>146853294
And I hate how Isayama avoids confrontations and continues on with the story as if nothing happened. I wanted an apology, a thanks, condolences, something. What was the point of the civil war if EM and the vets were going to be on good terms in the next chapter?
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>>146853496
On the upside Armin is pissed at them and feels like shit so EM are eating their own actions right now.
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>>146853294
They might be in good terms now because the situation requires it. Nobody knows how they will react in the future, I say let's give it time and wait for the damn chapter. Seriously, we've got like 30% of the whole thing
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>>146853502
God I would have adopted Hissy in a heartbeat just to get her away from that awful woman.
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>>146846014
Can anyone give me a summary of what the fuck happened here? Last thing I read was when the colossal and armored titans revealed themselves and bailed.
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>>146853614
And all the other Reiss kids too.
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>>146853667
Armin ate Bert, basement contents were revealed, Zekzek is Eren's onii-chan, EAr is canon but not for long because mutinybowl.
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Why did the warriors wait a 100 years to attack the walls?
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>>146853669
The other Reiss kids got love from their parents, even if Rod was cheating scum.
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>>146853669
I don't know what home life was like for them but little Hissy deserved proper food and attention. Poor baby. I'm almost certain she was stunted from malnutrition.
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>>146853872
Or did they?
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>>146853667
Pointless drama, the basement, and the death of greatest commander and titan.
They left Erwin's body on a bed in Eren's house. Bert has ascended.
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>>146853865
Who's this supposed to be?
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>>146853905
They seemed close to their parents. Frieda was also happy go lucky when not having bipolar fits.
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>>146853887
Well her dad was a manlet too. But she is ridiculously small even by those standards, still she has a chance to grow but once she turns 18 she's screwed.
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>>146853887
To be fair her father was a midget so I think she was okay when it came to being fed, but getting attention certainly wasn't the case. Neither her mom nor her grandparents gave a shit about her. Terrible. Someone should've handed her over to Armin's grandpa. According to Eren he was an "incredible person" and Armin clearly loved him a lot. He did what he could to support his grandson and take care of him and later EM, even if they ended up being homeless.
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>>146853968
If she was adopted by Armin's grandpa she would just lose him anyway, since he dies while Armin is still a little kid.
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>>146853736
>>146853917
Okay hold the fucking phone

Armin is a fucking titan too? Is everyone a titan and no one knew it? And what was in the basement?
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>>146854021
Fine. She could join Connie's family.
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>>146854021
I would adopt EMA and Hissy, and any other baby shingekis in need.
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>>146854049
Anon that's also bad. Connies family are all didans. Only Jean and Sasha still have at least one parent alive/non-titanized.
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>>146854070
Yeah, I feel bad for all of them.
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>>146854034
Yes, Armin's a titan. They had a serum and gave it to Armin who was on the verge of death after being burnt alive. He ate Blorthole aka the colossal titan and now he's fine and has sexy abs. >>146846978

>>146854076
Well I don't like Jean's mom because she's abusive in the spinoffs, so Sasha's kinda shitty but not terrible dad will have to do.
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>>146854034
Nah, only Armin. They have a serum that turns people into mindless titans, but as long as they eat a shifter they'll be able to control their titans + get the shifter abilities. Armin ate the colossal titan. We've got yet to see Armin's final form.
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>>146853983
She looks more like Annie than Bert
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>>146854034
A photo of Grisha's first family with Eren's brother. And the revelation that the humanity hasn't been extinct at all untill 20 years ago. They lived with healthy, even.
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>>146854112
Jean has a great mom that spoils the shit out of him. If anything he should be more appreciative of her, considering he's surrounded by orphans.

Sasha's dad seems kinda chill. He's not fantastic but much better than Rod or Grisha.
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>>146854112
>I don't like Jean's mom because she's abusive in the spinoffs

Are you referring to Jean being a fat baby?
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>>146854160
She hits Jeanbo and calls him fat though. That's not good. Sasha's dad reminds me of trailer trash but not in the worst way, just in a...Honey Boo Boo's mother kind of way.
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>>146853956
>>146853968
You just know her mother refused to feed her and she had to be fed with goats' milk or something similar. That would probably cause stunting.
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The only good parent was Kuchel, since despite being a broad she chose to kept the child and loved him very much.
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>>146854181
No. She hits him and calls him names. I can appreciate that she at least tries to be a good mom but trying doesn't count as much as actually being.

>>146854134
I thought it was implying that they still live in luxury with modern-ish technology.

>>146854229
Oh yes. Wait, wasn't that confirmed in the guidebook that that's what Armin had to live on because his mother died/couldn't produce milk?
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>>146846250
Next arc.
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>>146854200
Those are just spinoffs. In the actual manga the worst she did was tell him to clean his room while he was fapping.
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>>146854200
>hits Jeanbo and calls him fat
When did she do that?
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>>146854269
No that was fake
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>>146854248
>not papa smith
>not Nile
>not Papackerman
Kuchel was a dirty whore
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>>146854248
She knew who the father was.
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>>146854287
Kek. Fair enough.

>>146854292
Chuugakkou. I didn't like how everyone, even Armin laughed at that. I like Chuugakkou but not that scene at all.
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>>146854269
That was on diary Grisha wrote a long time ago. Something terrible happened the day he left the Village.
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>>146854229
I think being small doesn't really bother Historia anyway. She didn't look offended when Ymir made fun of her size or when Kenny did too.
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>>146854341
Maybe. Or he was mind wiped and put into a mindless didan form/dumped into the walls because he rebelled.
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>>146854310
You take that back.
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>>146854200
>She hits Jeanbo and calls him fat though

Look at this fat little fucker
It's cute while he's little but later on it won't do him any good.
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>>146854248
Nile is best dad. He even said his family was his greatest achievement.
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>>146853510
>>146853533

But in the end EM gave up on Armin. LH has won. The manlet just changes his mind on his own.
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>>146854450
She called him fat while she was fat and he was thin/muscular. And phrasing things like that won't help your child's self esteem at all!
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>>146854331
That's a gag manga though. The OVA isn't canon but I think it shows a more accurate representation of his mom.
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>>146854450
Jeanbo is literally the cutest baby.
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>>146854488
You know a nip wrote this series right? Asians are like that with their kids so obviously Isayama is going to channel that in his works. And Jean was a pompous fuck at first, his self esteem is fine.
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>>146854488
Jean's self-esteem problems come from somewhere a lot deeper than his mother calling him fat. In fact, being fat would have made him even more friendless than he already is.
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>>146854533
Isayama didn't write Chuugakkou and I don't want to get off topic but Japanese parenting is actually very very western nowadays. Perhaps a little too lenient as an albeit controversial book was released that warned parents to never ever say no to their kids no matter what.

>>146854527
Hissy too. Jean remarked she acts like his mom now kek. Eren too.
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>>146853596
I've seen spoiler images with him being shocked/ upset, but to my knowledge he isn't actively angry at EM.
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>>146854589
>Jean's self-esteem problems
I don't think Jean has problems. He is arrogant.
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>>146854589
We're getting off topic here but the seed of low self esteem (or exceedingly arrogant behavior) often is planted by parents before any other kids do.

>>146854645
According to chinks he spergs out a little at them. He does call them idiots in the spoilers.
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>>146854596
But when Isayama was growing up it wasn't like that and a lot of Japanese humor is tough love. That's just how it is, and obviously westerners don't see it the same way but Asian parenting in general is admittedly harsh compared to white people. I got lucky but some of my friends and cousins are not so lucky. Literal tiger moms.
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>>146854481
Man, if it wasn't for Hange everything would've been extremely fucked up. I also liked how quick she reacted, Jean was meters away from her when Hange was already all over Mikasa.
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>>146853870
grisha broke the treaty
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>>146854413
Or he tried to spy on the coordinate, was catch, mindwhipped and thrown back outside the walls.
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>>146854426
My heart..
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>>146854248
Mikasa's parents were good, so was Eren's mom.
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>>146854689
Actual nip-canadian here. My parents were pretty western. They expected me to get B- or higher but never called me stupid/fat/etc. and always helped with my homework when I asked and didn't restrict freedoms much. I could have sleepovers and go pretty much anywhere so long as my homework was done, but even then they sometimes let it slide. Actually from previous interviews it seems like Isayama doesn't actually like his parents that much. They seem awkward. Other asian countries' parenting definitely is for sure but in Japan western, mainly European style is very common. According to a study from 2010, 80% of Japanese parents have never spanked/hit their kid, to give you an idea. My parents never did either. Of course there are still tiger parents.
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>>146854845
Sorry for the blogging and wall of black.

...I tried to insert a build wall pun there but nothing's coming. Post baby shingekis.
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>>146854670

Spoiler alert: people who are arrogant have self esteem issues.

Also, Jean isn't arrogant. He's very upfront about his flaws (cowardly, not a good leader, etc). He's just not apologetic about being skilled, which he is. He's the top in his class and one of the best at the 3DMG. There's a reason why Connie and Sasha were following him in order to get points.
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>>146854670
>He is arrogant

Jean stopped being outwardly arrogant after Trost. If anything he spends more of his time trying to be stern or a moralfag. He tries his best but he doesn't seem to have a lot of faith in himself. Like he's resigned to the fact that he's weaker than Mikasa and not as brilliant as Armin.

I'm probably reading too deeply into this but I wouldn't mind seeing introspection from Jean. I find him really interesting.
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>Had OK - Decent Parent(s)
Eren (except Grisha), Mikasa, Levi, Erwin, Connie, Jean, Sasha, Armin (grandpa for now), Marco

>Shitty parents
Historia (Frieda was nice but also went crazy), Annie, unknown about BR but very likely, maybe Ymir

>Hanji
???
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>>146854782
I want Levi to have an open-hearted discussion with EM and maybe A, and tell them about his shitty childhood in hopes that they'll stop AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHing in his face so much and start understanding that he knows what to do. So that they're more willing to trust him. He was an oprhan just like them, and I'm sure Levi does not want EMA's future children to have to go through and see the same shit they have and he has.
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>>146854942
iirc wasnt hanji born in one of sina's districts?
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>>146853983
>Bertma
>holding Zeke
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>>146854676
I have yet to see those spoilers, do you have pics?
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>>146855108
He doesn't call them idiots in the spoilers. No idea what that fag is claiming but moonfags have translated the line several times here. He really said the choice of him over Erwin was stupid.
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>>146854885
This is at the beginning of the manga. He isn't like that anymore. I don't think he has self esteem issues at all.

>>146854919
>Like he's resigned to the fact that he's weaker than Mikasa and not as brilliant as Armin.
He has never said that. When Armin told him to lead he did it without a problem.

Jean has learned to control his nerves.
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>>146853983
She looks like a female Erwin.
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>>146855079
>when Armin told him to lead he did it without a problem

He was relying on the hope that Armin could think of some miraculous plan to get them out if he stalled for time. Taking the lead in an already shitty situation did a number on him.
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>>146855146
Yeah that's what I've seen as well.
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>>146854981
That would be incredible for him to do. If that were to happen I honestly hope EMA take it to heart..

I see Armin doing so at least.
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>>146854426
Dirty whore who was selfish as shit to keep taking the D even though she has to think of her health and her kid. She's worse than stripper mom's who bring their kids to work.
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>>146854942
Hanji was quite active as a child. I remember reading somewhere that she tried to dig under the walls with a shovel but the MPs noticed and she had some troubles with that, but since she was a kid they let it go. In a smartpass side story she also mentioned that she used to read books that were too much for her age at the time. And all smartpass material is canon, since
Kodansha and KDDI operate the Shingeki no Kyojin smartpass app. In an interview with Kodansha’s Hiroshi Yoshimura, Executive Director of Digital Business at Kodansha, Yoshimura confirmed that Isayama does indeed supervise the smartpass content.

I wonder if her parents let her foster that imagination of hers when she was small.
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>>146855176
He did it without a problem. He was kind of mad with Armin for being a "coward". Jean doesn't have self esteem problems, that's Armin.
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>>146850424
>>the series ends with the coalition forces looking at Eren flabbergasted why he's screaming crying after the air support saved him
They will probably think he cries tears of joy.
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>>146855224
I hope Armin can be a little more grateful about Levi choosing him. I do understand the massive amount of pressure that's been placed on his shoulders, though. Not even so much the titan serum but the fact that he was chosen over his idoru, Erwin. Those are some massive shoes to fill in for his small, cute feet.

I think he'd respect Levi more if he just got to know Levi. According to a previous guidebook (not the latest) he doesn't respect Levi since he thinks he's harsh and rude. I can't speak for EM, however. I think Eren might understand a little but not take it to heart, whereas Mikasa just won't give a fuck.
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>>146855280
Who was mad, Jean? No, not really.
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>>146855280
>Jean doesn't have self esteem problems, that's Armin

You're probably right. But that little inkling of self-loathing from 21 is going to bother me until the day he dies. It's the same sort of thing as the fact that he's never shed tears properly.
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>actual discussion happening in this thread
>arminfats are actually being civil and non-cancerous
My god...
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>>146855384
The guidebook thing about Armin not respecting Levi was fake.
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>>146855458
Jean needs to get off his high horse.
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>>146855462
There are plenty of reasonable people, but idiots tend to shout the loudest...
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>>146853870
Memory manipulation. Only a few yeas have passed.
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>>146855458
I would think you'd pay close attention to Jean's struggle during chapter 54.
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>>146850424
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>>146855483
No, it's real. It's from a previous one. There's a chart of his relationship with everyone and while there's an arrow pointing to Erwin that says "deeply admires/respects", there is none to Levi, despite being put there.
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>>146855483
No it wasn't. I can't find it now, but it was a chart. Armin had an arrow directed at Erwin that said "respect", but none towards Levi.
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>>146855451
He was a little angry. He just softened his expression because Armin was already a wreck without him chipping in.
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>>146855458
I think you are misinterpreting his words in chapter 21. He didn't want to join the Scouting Legion and he hated himself for doing the right thing. Also, he didn't want to end like Marco, he wanted to contribute to humanity. If he has never shed tears doesn't mean he hates himself but he accepted the soldier's life since the day he joined the SC.
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>>146853983
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>>146855594
But that doesn't mean he doesn't respect Levi.
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>>146855602
He looked so scared that Jean was gonna yell at or hit him, damn.
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>>146855544
>54

I don't think watching Armin getting groped was really a turning point Anon.
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>>146855575
I know what the guidebook says, just because there was no arrow doesn't mean Armin disrespects him unless it was stated in the text. It probably just meant their relationship wasn't important/ expanded upon yet. Anything else would fall under speculation, in my opinion.
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>>146855684
My bad, I meant 59.
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>>146855666
Well, there was an arrow for Erwin, but none for Levi who was just next to Erwin. Why not give an arrow to the two of them? uh, Satan?
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>>146855602
I took that to be more of a "Jean is stressed out/frustrated with the scenario" than a "Jean is mad at Armin" face. But YMMV I guess.
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>>146854919
>I'm probably reading too deeply into this
Not at all, anon. I think he's interesting as well. He's a very simple character, but amazingly well done. Recently I've noticed whilst Jeanbo is a honest and an straightforward kind of person, he really try his hardest not to show his emotions. Like when he was all shaky in the political arc and now trying to hold his tears in the Armin almost death drama.
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>>146855666
That's what was implied. I swear Isayama has said something on the matter before but don't remember what.

>>146855691
Fair enough.
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>>146855774
Maybe you should stop projecting your fantasies into discussion and we could all tolerate you more and have more civil conversation.
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Zeke is Annie's dad. Eren is her uncle
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>>146855774
Then Manlet is also a non wizard rapist.
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>>146855684
>implying
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>>146855733
We know Armin admires Erwin very much. He also respects Hanji a lot. I remember Isayama said that both Levi and Armin respect each other. Armin has never questioned the captain's orders.
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>>146855731
59 is an awkward chapter aside from the spaghetti. It makes me wonder how strong Jean's resolve to be in the SL is. It makes me want to see his place in the SL jeopardized so he has to change or put down into words why he's there.
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>>146855659
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>>146855814
You had to ruin the civility of this thread, didn't you? Fuck off. I'm not projecting.
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>>146855883
That chapter just makes me think of the internal struggle Jean went through. He really is a sensitive guy, makes me think he's not actually cut out for the SL. That isn't a bad thing, he's just very apprehensive about sacrificing his humanity which caused some conflict down the road. Conflict that still persists as seen when he indirectly spared Reiner.
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>>146855765
>he really try his hardest not to show his emotions

On light things like bickering with Eren or SC he's quick to snap or raise his voice. But on things that genuinely hurt him he's reserved and stoic. It feels like half of his behavior is a bluff.
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>>146855883
I think he will end up in the MP. Yeah, I understand why people like Jean. I am not a big fan of him but he will be successful. People like him is well treated.
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>>146855911
Sure you are not.
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>>146855911
You are, stop that shit already. I'll refrain from further comment now.
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>>146855616

I think your read of the situation is valid, but I also disagree with it... Consider how uncomfortable Jean was when he thought Levi was turning SC into a team of bullies, and how he struggled with fighting humans instead of titans.

I also think it's important to remember that Jean is 15 and has a lot of stuff getting shoved at him.

Jean is developing his moral compass, doing honest introspection about what he can live with and what he can't. There's going to be some growing pains there, and self-doubt.

I think he hated how arrogant he was about his Military Police plan, so that's why he said "don't make me hate myself more than I already do." Not so much self hate, as much as evolving and changing his values. Pushing his old values away and hating them as he embraced his new direction.

I also don't think he hated the decision to join the scouting legion, necessarily, just that it was awful fucking situation and it would frustrate anyone.
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>>146855974
He even took his anger out on Eren and Jean. He's one of those people who hides away the big emotions out of an attempt at self-preservation, which almost always ends up biting them in the ass.
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>>146855733
They probably only put an arrow to Erwin because someone like Armin would obviously admire and respect a man as smart as him. But Armin and Levi don't share much in common and hardly interact, but that doesn't mean he doesn't respect him. It's just not relevant enough to bring up.
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>>146855974
Well Jean is a tsundere, or as close to one comes in SnK.
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>>146855814
Hey now let's keep this thing going okay?
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>>146855979
>>146856006
Samefag. I'm still not. And how would I be projecting anyway? Just kill yourself. You're ruining the thread.
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>>146855953
>>146855975

The MP or the Garrison would be an interesting route. But I think the more interesting path would be him defending his place in the SL despite all the suffering it brings him.
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>>146856074
Not a samefag, retarded Arminfag. Your cringe-tier headcanon need to be shoved back up your ass already.
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>>146856051
What about Hitch? She's pretty tsuntsun around Marlowe.

Well, /was/ tsuntsun around him.
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>>146850424
>The army captures Eren for shifters experiments
>He escapes and plans to exact revenge on true humanity
>Part 2 will be about shifters fighting modern armies
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>>146856046
It is, in my opinion. I mean, I can accept that he respects Levi because he's the leader and humanity's strongest man. But isn't that what everyone feels towards him? Even someone like Mikasa who resents him for his treatment towards Eren obeys his command. Everyone respects Levi.
Now if we're talking about admiration, Armin admired Erwin, but not Levi.
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>>146856108
What headcanon? Literally what are you even saying? I don't have headcanons, I'm discussing what has or hasn't been implied with someone else and you're just shitposting.
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>>146856074
Try again.
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>>146856091
SL is the most interesting path for Jean but he would do better in MP or Garrison. But it's not like he has much choice anymore, the SL is barely anything now and I doubt he will leave behind his friends. Not after everything they have gone through.
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>>146856027
Jean is pacific aggressive. I still think he said "don't make me hate myself" because he wasn't ready to die, he wanted to live but he realized that wasn't the right thing.
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>>146856108
I swear that Arminfag is one of the biggest retard thinking everyone who can't stand his shit is samefagging.
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>>146856147
Oh good, so there's two of you with a stick up your asses. I won't reply anymore.

>>146856164
>pacific
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>>146856142
>you're just shitposting
That's a lot coming from the likes of you who does nothing but this in every damn thread. Guess what, you don't change people's attitudes towards Armin here.
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>>146856164
What the fuck man pacific ..
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>>146856027
This. Like when Jean had to make the choice to be willing to take a life after Levi said those things to Armin/Squad Levi over dinner. He wasn't happy with this reality, but he accepted it regardless.
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>>146856174
Yup, even other Arminfags are sick of that retard.
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>>146856228
Yes. I pretty dislike him too.
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So glad to have discussion about Jean that isn't reduced to hurrdurr he likes Mikasa memes.
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>>146856265
Jean is my man. He's mature, level-headed, can see the big picture and saved my waifu's ass. I love him.
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>>146856289
>>146856289
>>146856289
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>>146856293
He's not my favorite but I like discussing him. I've grown to care for him during the political arc actually.
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>>146856202

It's funny, really.

>>146846843
>>146847137
>>146849820
>>146850426
>>146851202
There was once a thread with 23 of those.
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>>146856139
>Armin admired Erwin, but not Levi
That seems natural considering his personality. Armin's the brains so him not looking up to someone who's all brawn seems normal. Others like Eren admired Levi because he wanted to be strong like him, where Armin admired Erwin because he was smart, like him, but also had confidence, which is something he lacked.
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>>146856108
Guys stop....
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>>146856142
Okay now let's drop it! Please.
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>>146856336
Yeah, I agree with all of what you've said.
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>>146856265
I really like discussing Jean, but he isn't a main character so I try not to push it.
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>>146856164
>pacific
Jean is Armin's ocean confirmed.
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>>146856413
Discuss what you want anon. Jean is a major character even if he isn't plot important and quite a few will surely be interested each time.
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>>146856418
>Armin's ocean
That's Mikasa.
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>>146856413
It's rare when you can discuss a character here without being called a characterfag and having the whole thread descend into retardation. Gotta say I'm impressed.
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>>146856486
Maybe because everytime I see actual discussion about Jean everyone is damn mature about it. Probably because he's a harmless character and isn't really that divisive. Sure, not everyone likes him but he doesn't really do anything worth raging over.
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>>146856413
As a jeanfag I feel the same.
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