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I'm gonna start tutoring with some native Japanese lady to help me stay on track and learn things easier. She seems nice. She has a master's degree in Japanese and has been teaching for 24 years or something.
>僕 *bˤok 仆 pú This servant (male) Literally, "charioteer"
Ancient way for commoners to refer to themselves in front of nobility, a kind of 謙譲語. Literally referring to yourself as "your servant/this servant."
Thank you, I am an idiot.
To the other person who is thinking of looking for IT jobs in Japan,
They do need bilinguals. I'm only between N4 and N3 and they still have plenty of jobs in that area, even better if you have had work experience.
Of course now the jobs are just jobs that appear, but if you aim job season you might have a good time.
also rakuten is hiring entry levels if you want to try, 15-20 positions last I checked, I tried to apply but my cat fucked my code task up
Well I dunno if I'm arguing against the same person here but you can't post a quote from a Wikipedia article claiming that subvocalization is physical and then ignore the fact that the article also says it's normal and impossible to completely remove. I dunno where you got this definition of "real" subvocalization you're referring to.
i would just take a philosophical approach and say that because japans population is declining this is the way nature works to ensure survival of the japanese people
we all laugh now but in 200 years the gaijin repopulation effort will go down in history as what saved japan feel free to save and quote this in 200 years
Yes you can. Wikipedia is stew. You literally have to vet the references of every statement in a wikipedia article in order to avoid misinformation. The wikipedia article is literally two different topics that are being forced under the same term, and it extensively references very unscientific studies that don't control for all influencing factors.
Yes, this is affecting the definition of "subvocalization", but as it was coined and exists it's not "reading aloud in your head", which you can't remove, but just "your throat makes faint vocalizations of what you're reading", which automatically goes away when you're literate if you're neurotypical.
>tfw my country's population increase for the past 16 years consists of 100% immigrants
I guess Japan could do the same.. but the country would change fundamentally and I don't think I'd appreciate the change. Oh well.
Why aren't you reading Japanese websites already?
検索 けんさく search
詳細 しょうさい detailed
動画 どうが video
音楽 おんがく music
歌詞 かし lyrics
台詞・セリフ せりふ script
画像 がぞう image
地図 ちず map
番組 ばんぐみ program (tv)
掲示板 けいじばん BBS, forum
実況 じっきょう (real condition) a let’s play type video
広告 こうこく advertisement
設定 せってい settings
会員登録 かいいんとうろく membership registration; subscription
次回 じかい next time
自動的 じどうてき automatic
利用規約 りようきやく usage agreement
投稿 とうこう contribution, submission
生放送 なまほうそう live broadcast
お知らせ おしらせ notice
一覧 いちらん at a glance, summary
最近 さいきん most recent, nowadays
翻訳 ほんやく translation
情報 じょうほう news, information
安全 あんぜん safety
You can't use Wikipedia to back up your assertions and then claim other people's assertions can't be backed up by the same source because it's unreliable. That's asinine. So far you've just made a lot of statements without proof and the only source that's been referenced disagrees with you.
Thank you. I didn't know 実況 じっきょう was translated to real condition. It makes much sense now.
The quote is based directly on those references. I'm sorry if you're somehow so autistic that you assumed that a third party quote with no standard format citation was meant to be a formal citation, but that is wrong. You're supposed to be exposed to the existence of contrary information and research it yourself, not take literally any indication of information contrary to yours as an attack in formal argument.
>tfw you're learning Japanese so you can finally find someone to love your small penis.
You cped some crap from Wikipedia to back up your argument from an article that disagrees with you and now you're making up some guff about how actually that part of the article is legit but everything else isn't. Ok well actually I'm a PhD in cognitive psychology and I personally verified everything in that article so just take me at my word.
>autismal le burden of effort bullshit
Nope, I'm done. You don't care about subvocalization, you care about people responding to you on an internet forum. You're not getting any more points or view or attention from me, but I will give you this for your own benefit, though you probably won't read it if you feel so offended by this exchange that you're stooping to this level in the first place: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4538954/
autismal aggressive response:
>WHERE IS LE PROOF YOU HYPOCRITICAL SCUM
>That's interesting, I don't agree at a glance, I'll read up on it and see if it has anything for me
guess who you are
if you think the fact that you might not have used slurs anywhere somehow makes you better than him you're fucking retarded
he's completely right that you obviously don't actually care about the topic of discussion
I did it! I became a guy who can enter elementary school.
I can pet 洋ロリ.
Both those words play important roles in the sentence though, I don't really see how they're a crutch that foreigners rely on too often, Japs say them both all the time too, female jap conversation is pretty much just them exchanging "ねぇ"s to one another
tfw still haven't become one with Japanese grammar and sentence structure
Even when I read a sentence and understand the grammar, it's still hard for me to process and fully comprehend it. Guess it will get better over time.
>live in Japan
>have sperg non-Japanese acquaintance who wants me to introduce him to some girls
>he instantly falls in love with any girl that shows him even the slightest bit of attention
>tell him I'll think about it (can't just say no because he'll sperg out)
>never plan on actually doing it
Somebody has to save the world from these social degenerates.
His Japanese is okay. Mostly just stuff from anime.
I actually don't even care about that. Even if his Japanese was terrible, I'd introduce him to somebody if he wasn't so socially inept.
Tell your made up friend to accept his place as a social outcast and to stop trying to pursue normie shit, then kill yourself for shitting up the thread with retarded barely topical attention whoring blog shit, then kill me for replying to you
Failing JLPT would require actually attempting it.
Attempting it would require learning handwriting.
>Attempting it would require learning handwriting.
I thought you didn't have to be able to write in Japanese to take JLPT.
How does it feel to waste even more time learning useless things?
I just assumed you would be required to write at least some things on higher levels. It's kind of weird if you don't need writing.
No, it's not wrong. Unless you want to get somebody to fill out all your documentation for you? Either that, or you clumsily spend 30 minutes just filling out a document for opening a bank account because you can't write anything.
Either way, it's sad that you can't even do something that a 7 year old can do.
>Why the fuck would you do that?
Why not? It's a good place to live.
Let me guess, you're going to spew out some contrarian opinion that you heard online about how Japan is actually a horrible place to live.
It's actually pretty easy, try it. It probably overestimates your vocab to make you feel good about yourself. I'm not even all that good at English and still it estimated that I know over 30k words.
Man, this thread works wonders sometimes.
I was going to post a question, but as I was writing and trying to explain what my doubt was, I resolved it.
Thank you DJT.
>tfw did my reps with 15 new words.
>just doing useless things now
I am not focused I am not even listening to stuff.
Not digging this tbqh
What makes you think we care?
Thank you for giving me that (You) that's the reason I live for.
Here, have a 猫
Now stop giving me (You)s because I'm out of here
This is interesting, but doesn't really mention subvocalization. Where is this definition of subvocalization as a process that only occurs in functional illiterates from? I found this recent article that does seem to refer to inner speech (though it's not about reading) as subvocalization: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4269111/
I bet you have 100x more harmful software on your Android phone (starting from Google Play Services), your ISP knows which websites you are browsing and there is a non-negligible chance that your encrypted traffic is captured or already decrypted somewhere, what the fuck are you on about?
Google IME has a "Send Usage Statistics" option that can be deactivated (it was on mine, don't know what is the option by default)
>tfw no bf or gf to play with my penis while learning Japanese together.
Hey guys, I'm thinking of learning japanese again
I was 2/3rds into core6k but I've forgotten most of it
Should I just start over from scratch? I did a good job of burning out too quickly over a month last year
Also, going into uni soon (for unrelated stem bs)- what are the chances that they have decent japanese classes? should I just invest in another language? japanese seems useless in the long run, russian is probably just as niche, but chinese and spanish are more practical
"Inner speech, on these terms, incorporates but does not reduce to phenomena such as subvocal rehearsal (the use of phonological codes for the maintenance of information in working memory)."
I have no idea what とてもたくさん means here. Both words seem similar, so having them together just confuses me. Any help for a retard?
First, if you forgot your Japanese, you never really "learned" it. So yes, start from scratch.
Second, there's no way to know what classes your university offers. You should call and ask your university, not here. I think that's just common sense.
Third, defining the usefulness of a language based on how you can use it in a career is absurd. Using that logic, there's no point in learning anything aside from English, Spanish, Mandarin Chinese, Arabic, Portuguese, French, Russian, and German. Everything else is pointless. Oh, and be sure to never take any kind of hobby that is "useless" because everything needs a practical application in life.
When I did navy boot camp and came back I didn't forget a thing in those two months. I just had to do anki for a few days but I caught up.
You don't just forget it.
Are you supposed to press the "Again" button on brand new cards? I just assumed you were supposed to, but then I noticed that they count as pressing "Again" in the statistics, which doesn't make sense.
>without any exposure
Thatd be exactly 1 year
I often try to read untranslated releases on exhentai and a lot of the kanji that come up, I've defintely seen on anki but just cant remember. Thats about as much exposure I've had since
>anki for a few days but I caught up
Thats another problem, I removed everything on my computer resembling japanese out of frustration(?). I couldn't not actually start from scratch
I've always thought japanese classes have bad rep from weebs with deviant intentions. I might fit right in but I'd feel ashamed of myself if I can't justify taking the classes aside from out of pure lust for little anime girls... I'd like to atleast delude myself into thinking it has a practical application in life
Yeah i think i'll do that.
>not sure why it's even an option then
Because you can modify steps. I think the rationale behind the default steps is that the first time you see a card, you're supposed to take a minute to "learn" it and press "good", and then if you can recall it when it shows up again you press "good" again, otherwise press "again", rinse and repeat.
Apparently there is a lot of free Japanese podcasts in itunes.
>I've always thought japanese classes have bad rep from weebs with deviant intentions.
Yes, and I'm sure Chinese classes have a bad reputation with people who don't care about learning Japanese and just want it for business purposes.
Everything can have a bad reputation added to it.
>I might fit right in but I'd feel ashamed of myself if I can't justify taking the classes aside from out of pure lust for little anime girls...
Stop caring what other people think.
Are you actually only taking it because you're a sad little degenerate who is lustful for 2D anime girls? If so, it sounds like you're actually ashamed of yourself but just don't want to admit it.
However, if you're fine with being like that, then just stop caring what others think and do what you want.
>I'd like to atleast delude myself into thinking it has a practical application in life
You're the only person who can decide how practical something is. Once again, stop caring what the world tells you and do what you want. You're so concerned with fitting in and are worried that people are going to laugh at you behind your back or something.
>spent the last hour crying about life and how much I want to give up and getting sad and angry and crying in public in my arms
>drank 800mg of caffeine everyday for months
>try to stop becuase I wake up at 3 pm everyday and dont get anything accomplished
>drink a small latte
>suddenly life is good again
Does caffiene have addictive properties or am I just being a girl and getting frustrated at life?
>Does caffiene have addictive properties or am I just being a girl and getting frustrated at life
I think the answer is probably both. Caffeine is extremely habit forming, and you can definitely experience withdrawal symptoms at that usage level. Also you sound like a sissy.
Wait, what does this have to do with 日本語?
I think it is probably you with the addictive properties, rather than the caffeine. In a similar way it's not necessarily the caffeine that is making you stay in bed till 3pm. Always try to believe you have control over your own actions, for as long as it seems to have even the slightest chance of being true.
>Are you actually only taking it because you're a sad little degenerate who is lustful for 2D anime girls?
but theres no other reason why anyone would take it right? I'm not courting a japanese woman (nor do I intend to), I'm not in it to escape to the japanese lifestyle or live out my SOL fantasies in the 田舎- because I'm not delusional enough to think the grass is greener on the other side. What am I really going to use japanese for, if not to read untranslated japanese-exclusive media? I haven't watched anime since 5 seasons ago, and I don't read manga. Nothing else comes to mind besides more deviant prospects in my case. I'll never understand- this is the same reason why I quit last year
No offense, but your way of thinking is very delusional, cynical, and kind of creepy.
The reason why most people learn Japanese is to speak to Japanese people, live in Japan, or indulge in Japanese media, e.g. books, games, movies, and anime. You obviously fall into that latter category, but you also seem to think that anybody who has another reason for doing it if fooling themselves or something.
Not everybody who moves to Japan is some "otaku" social reject, not everybody who likes Japan thinks it's the greatest paradise in the history of mankind, and not everybody who enjoys Japan thinks they're on the greener side of the fence.
You're thinking about this way too much. And just because you are only interested in jacking off to hentai doujinshi doesn't mean that's why everybody else is doing it. Are you sure you're capable of empathy and understanding what people aside from yourself do things?
With the Yotsubato reading pack, is the order based on the chapters or something else? I want to know if I can do 300 cards read the first chapter do the next 300 read the next and so on. I feel like I really need to start reading as soon as possible or I'm going to lose interest. Cards aren't fun.
You don't need to do the cards, you can just follow along the HTML file if you want. Of course, it would be easiest if you did them and never had to look up any words but that's only going to last for two volumes anyway.
Not the first time I've been indirectly called autistic
but you're right- I'm thinking about this way too much, just as much as normal aspie behaviour would entail. Thanks, anon you've thoroughly convinced me to never consider taking up japanese again.
Not a big fan of the idea of going through it with too much reliance on the dictionary but I guess I will hopefully still pick it up and it will at least give me some context. I'll give it a try.
When mining with rikaisama, what frequency # is a good cut off point? Things below 20,000? 50,000?
I picked up a laptop recently and when I switch to japanese on it it always shows the IME as disabled whenever I'm not on the desktop. Bringing up my browser, notepad, discord etc. just shows it as disabled and it defaults back to english when I type something. I've been troubleshooting and googling this problem all day, does anyone have any suggestions or anything?
but jessica was too busy starting at her phone, not paying any attention
jessica is a slovenly whore! who ever invited her will be fed to the dogs
I just started learning fairly recently, but how do you all balance your time? Usually I already feel exhausted after going through my Anki deck daily, and don't really have desire to read any Genki.
You won't have this problem anymore once you have basic grammar and vocab down and are able to study mainly through reading native content, so just force yourself to keep going until you reach that point.
if you really wanna make the most of the lessons, don't write anything down and just focus on listening and speaking. I'm getting weekly lessons and I asked my teacher if I could use an audio recorder to record our conversations to listen back to later and write notes on.
the more you can use Japanese to ask about Japanese the better- learn how to ask in Japanese "what is x in Japanese" "what is ringo in english", "please speak more slowly/clearly"
teach yourself as much as you can(grammar, writing systems, particles,...) so you can spend time in the lessons getting feedback on your speaking. if you self study alongside the lessons you will progress faster, and the teacher won't think you're a lazy student
How bad is this? Seemed to miss a lot of cards today. A bit over 60 percent through RTK.
It's in the addon options, under the dictionary tab for me.
weird that they measure windspeed in meters per second not kmph
still gusts at 126kmph, fuck that
What does it mean when someone makes the scissor motion with their fingers?
Like in paper scissors rock but with a chop chop motion
one day ill learn the secret to making meat, you cant hide the technique forever 日本人
ふうそくはなぜか メートル毎秒 をつかうことになっているよ
Here is the only frequency that matters:
Do you want to be able to recall the word or not?
Anki almost guarantees that you will be able to remember/recall the word from longer term memory with minimal effort, provided the word is reviewed as the program suggests.
If you don't really care too much about the word, don't bother committing it to a review process and accept that the next time you come across it, there is a good chance you'll have to stop and look it up again. Is that something you don't want to do? Add it to Anki. Is that something you don't really care about? Don't add it to Anki.
Frequency is largely irrelevant as people tend to be interested in reading narrowly rather than widely, meaning the general frequency corpus used in Rikaisama isn't an accurate representation of the corpus of words which are commonly found within the types of things you are reading. A generic "safe bet" is: is the word found in the Core2k/6k/10k deck? If so, you can safely add it to your vocab revising if the concept of generic frequency is of high importance.
So one process could be:
Look up word, check if it is part of the Core2k/6k/10k corpus.
*A. Yes? Add it.
***B1. Add it if you would like to commit the word to longer term memory.
***B2. Ignore it if you don't really care about the word and don't mind looking it up again later.
[Repeat B for each time you come across the word again.]
My process? I like to re-read things at a later point in time and when I come across an unknown word, it is added to Anki if I don't want to look the word up the next time I read that particular manga volume, etc. or not added if I don't care about having to look it up again. That's about as complex as I get, which is kind of like a dumbed down version of the aforementioned process.
>he doesn't understand the concept of waifu multiplication
Thanks heaps to the guy who recommended this, it's fantastic
Thanks I will.
Your copy does what you want. If she's fucking random guys that sure says a lot about you m8.
The game starts off with 15 h scenes in a row, but just push through (and don't ctrl). After that shit hits the fan.
Good, don't need plebs touching this masterpiece.
I'm a male of 26. How do you think, could I learn Japanese on my own in 5 years to advance level? Provided I put in as much effort as I can. Btw I have successfully mastered two languages, Spanish and English.
What's the point of asking strangers on the internet whether or not you can accomplish something that depends entirely on your motivation and hard work? Visit the guide in the OP and start learning immediately.
Just acknowledge the fact that I can speak English very good. Otherwise, provide me with some arguments as to why you think I'm bad at English. In my first message I ofc made some typos, but still.
>How do you think, could I learn Japanese on my own
"What do you think," "Do you think" or "I could" would make this a proper sentence, with completely different meanings.
>I have a perfect command of English.
Doesn't sound like something a native would type. "I have perfect command over", maybe.
>I can speak English very good
Very good makes no sense. It's "well". I can speak English WELL. You speak English like a 1st grader.
>"I have perfect command over", maybe.
>Very good makes no sense. It's "well". I can speak English WELL. You speak English like a 1st grader.
kek, you didnt get the joke. I pity you.
No, your criticism is wrong. Splitting up the can't is allowed, but he did it wrong; it becomes "why can I not say".
Unless you deliberately did it to avoid teaching dumb ESLs anything, in which case sorry.
>How do you think, could I learn Japanese on my own in 5 years to advance level?
Here is a good starting point:
I'm a homosexual from Russia. I am 26 years old. Considering I have mastered English and can pass for a native in most occasions, do you think, guys, I could reach an advanced level in 4 years from scratch? I plan on studying at least 4 hours a day.
I need some help/tips
Pressure at school has been getting bigger than expected and I don't feel like studying japanese anymore.
I have been studying it ~2 hours daily for about ~4 months now. Without skipping a single day.
yesterday and the day before that I didn't do anything japanese related. I picked it up again today but don't feel motivated at all.
Is this just a phase that will pass or do I need to do something active about it?
Telling someone who doesnt care about japanese to learn japanese is not helping them anon. Just tell me to stop learning anon, thats all i wanted to hear from the start. Give me that sweet ~release~
Man, it's been 4 years since I've taken the N1.
Time fucking flies.
I honestly don't remember, it was 4 years go.
All I remember was that it wasn't bad and I passed.
Never thought that, but I remember the "Brake" bugging me the entire time. I waited until the end of the test to walk up to the proctors to tell them they fucked up.
I literally only got to 2000 kanji the night before the test, so I probably didn't get 100% or anything.
How long does it usually take for an average diligent person to get to a point where one can read books without looking up words and speak fluently on a pretty much any topic they want to?
p.s. did i pass for a native?
I studied for 準2級 and 2級 to mine vocab but I never actually sat for them since I lived in the states at the time and never really planned on writing.
I might eventually restudy and actually do it, since I actually just moved to Japan.
I had to keep in touch with people somehow (my family is very split up), and nobody uses AIM or MSN anymore. Right now I'm getting by with facebook chat and google talk. What else am I meant to use?
What could 学生気分の王様 mean here? Does she refer to him as a student playing the role of a king, a king who is still a student, or something else entirely?
Weebs translate this
>wasting time with eroges and eroges-wannabes
>not reading books
>Are you for real?
No, I'm unreal.
>forced myself to grind through a grammar book
>put anki on hold so i could do it
is there anything i can read with very little vocab?
i hear id have to pretty much look up every word for the first few weeks regardless
It's true, but at least vocab is significantly easier to look up than grammar can be sometimes.
Quit yer bellyachin' and get ta readin' some of the The Black Cornucopia's bounty, matey!
i feel bad for downloading raw manga for free,
but then i realize im a piece of shit and i feel better
Not hot enough to stop you randomly bitching about it on an imageboard dedicated to anime and manga discussion.
Feel free to take your status updates and fuck off back to Facebook instead of using /a/ as your personal blog.
>That correct % on learning (core 2k/6k)
I'm either doing something seriously wrong or I'm just plain retarded. I know most of the kanji that's showing up but a lot of the words refuse to stick.
This is what I've set it as. Sometimes I change new cards to 15.
guys, I don't have new cards in my anki deck, what do I do?