Macross Delta (マクロスΔ)

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>>146840067
Posting the best girl.

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>>146840296
Kumo is cute

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Those windies are asking for a second bombing...

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>>146840095
DOLLARS HOW MUCH FAKE?

What is your favourite songs of Macross overall?

>>146840381
It's OK. Hayate and his Freyja waifu will ride it and bring understanding to everyone. It's all according to keikaku.

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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-09-06/idol-fan-draws-brutally-honest-introspective-webcomic/.105984

Idolshit was a mistake.

>>146840859
It's okay because Macross idols aren't real.

>>146840095
What is Nakajima doing? I saw her listed for the Kancole movie the last time.

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>>146836334
That is bullshit. Character's gender has nothing to do with the choice of main protagonist (MC) from a mecha action series.

The criteria for being main main protagonist (MC) from a mecha action series are these:
1) The character should be a Mech pilot
2) The character should be a action character
3) The character should have focus on action, mecha action, Mech and mech battles.

The maximum an non-pilot, a non-action character, a co-pilot, a navigator, and a character that doesn't have its focus on action, mecha action, Mech and mech was deuteragonist's role.

>>146840859
What ANN is missing is that that guy is now a popular webcomic artist with actual contracts with publishers and idol media. Japan loves self-depreciating fucks. See also: My lesbian experience with loneliness.

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>Does any Delta girl deserve to be added to the Kawamori Worst Girls 3x3?

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>>146840095
Ranka Lee is my waifu

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>>146840095
The best.

>>146840830
So Immeldad planned for Freyja to take up singing, then bombing the planet so Freyja can have an unmei meeting with Hayate, and finally killing himself, leaving his plane with minor damage, so the windies will repair it. When Hayate discovers his love of flight through Freyja, the war Immeldad has caused will lead the two to Windermere where Hayate will reclaim his other gift. The first was Freyja, the second is the VF-22. My god that is one hell of a convoluted plan just to get your son to stop being a bum.

>>146841255
Name a Macross anime with a grill as MC. Or a Gundam anime.

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>>146840095
Posting

>>146841775
Macross Frontier

This show is such a disappointment
Could a movie version even save this?

>>146841548
more

>>146841255
Adults accept it more easily, that's why an OVA is feasible. A tv show is complicated because teenagers are in the age of total insecurity. Some of them do not like if the story is from the point of view of a girl. So, although the female characters are strong, he needs a male self insert as MC, moreover the action anime with mecha are primarily for male audiences.

There are of course exceptions and special cases, but even so...

>>146841948
There won't be a movie

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>>146841775
Gundam Ecole du ciel. I don't know why Sunrise doesn't animate this? Fans have been asking for a female MC pilot for a gundam. Because of Hiatus? Unfinished?

>>146841775
Zeta.

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>>146841922
Sheryl has a man face.

>>146842030
well it happens. just like that weight-lifting movie "teddy bear" men get distant and off-track, in comparison to older generations, because there are less defined paths

>>146842379
They will surely make a Frontier style retelling though right?

>>146841469
your waifu deserves better than that shit image

>>146842484
War in the Pocket had a female gundam pilot. Though I guess they probably want a good one.

Cross Ange had strong female pilot. She even sang and piloted her mech at the same time, similar character could work in Macross.

>>146842878
Ecole du ciel is pretty great despite being on hiatus for 5 years.

>>146842484
>Gundam Ecole du ciel
I like it, but I asked for anime.

Anyway, a female MC would be a first for both Macross and Gundam anime. And that's mainly why is unlikely to happen any time soon. Anime producers don't like trying new things all that much.

>>146843085
>Cross Ange
Wasn't a mecha anime

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Which Walkure would you attack?

>>146843258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb7Lec2TjU8

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>>146842006
For some reason this year there's been a lot of Ranka fanart, especially from Korean artists.

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>>146843687
And last.

>>146840095
>>146841469
>>146841548
Green Freyja is not best girl.

>>146842878
>War in the Pocket had a female gundam pilot. Though I guess they probably want a good one.
Gundam 00 had a female (Soma Peries) join the crew as a Gundam co-pilot, but interestingly the adverts deliberately try to ignore this. It's almost like Sunrise decided they could only have a female Gundam pilot if they don't tell anyone.

>>146843854
She isn't a main character.

Can you guys actually give concrete reasons for why you want female MCs so much?

>>146843970
I can self insert as a girl.

>>146843970
It would actually be new, since all the major series had male protagonists. It would be a breath of fresh air as long as they do it right.

>>146843970
Pilot girls are hot.

>>146844122
>as long as they do it right

I don't really trust them to.

>>146843970
I would feel less gay.

>>146843970
Because I'm heterosexual.

>>146840343
The switch between her interactions with Rei and Makina to her kidnapping by Roid was too fast.

>>146841658
As of this point, I can't tell which is worse, Delta or EVOL.

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>>146842030
>Some of them do not like if the story is from the point of view of a girl. So, although the female characters are strong, he needs a male self insert as MC, moreover the action anime with mecha are primarily for male audiences.

To be honest, I don't believe this.

The biggest problem lies in the fact that the female MCs are always being thrown to YURI.

Others may not agree but IMO, even though Hayate and Freyja are both the MCs, I've always felt that Freyja is THE MC.

It seems to me like the plot revolves more around her and her actions and how it affects the bigger picture, than on Hayate.

>>146843924
>She isn't a main character.
She is a Gundam Meister. Even after she joined, the magazines intentionally still act like there were only five of them and not six.

>>146843924
>She isn't a main character.
She is literally more relevant than her boyfriend, who's entire story arc ended early on and become a side character. Hal really doesn't have the plot importance to stay in all the promotion material without Soma.

>>146843970
So the next love triangle can have two guys fighting for MC.

>>146844404
>The biggest problem lies in the fact that the female MCs are always being thrown to YURI.
Ange ended up with Tusk. The yuri was just fanservice, and I think it actually shows how little confidence Sunrise has in a mecha anime with a female MC.

>>146843970
>Can you guys actually give concrete reasons for why you want female MCs so much?

So I can let my lesbian tendencies loose and self insert as the MC.

>>146844558
>>146844458
http://www.gundam00.net/tv/character/index.html
She isn't listed with them.

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>>146844425
>pls delusional Freyjafag shitposter get out
Hayate is the protagonist (a mech pilot and a action caracter)
Freyja is the deuteragonist (a non-pilot and a non-action caracter)

I wonder what Delta and Walkure would do after the war ends and Windermere stops its hostilities with NUNS. Supposedly, Walkure was created specifically to combat Var. Maybe the rumored cliffhanger ending will have Delta and Walkure now setting its sights on the numerous rogue Zentradi fleets still lurking the galaxy. Hayate and Freyja will continue working together of course.

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HayaFre's children would be exact copies of them as children, but they'd be half Windies with runes. Cute.

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cute

>>146845022
Hayate will end up with Mirage while Freyja will continue to be famous with Walkure.

>>146844930
>She isn't listed with them.
Of course she isn't LISTED. That's my point!
She is a Meister IN the film, but she was deliberately omitted from all the promotion materials.

>>146845074
That's implying no one will die in the final battle.

>>146845002
deu·ter·ag·o·nist
ˌd(y)o͞odəˈraɡənəst/
noun
>the person second in importance to the protagonist in a drama.

Take your meds, Jimmy. Freyja may not be a pilot, but overall, her role carries more importance than Hayate.

>>146843327
Makina is the semenest of demons

>>146845022
>Maybe the rumored cliffhanger ending
I thought the cliffhanger ending was scratched when they decided to do two cours instead of one plus a movie.

>>146845074
>Hayate will end up with Mirage

Yeah, I'm sure that will happen. How many episodes of Mirage throwing herself at Hayate and Hayate is still MUH FREYJA?

It's time to let it go.

>>146845074
Mirage is a Mirage. HayaFre will make rogue Zentradi remember love.

>>146845183
Just like Hikaru and Minmay, right? He will let it go.

>>146845232
Are you dumb? Did you even watch sdf and how there were episodes were Hikaru was already between Minmay and Misa? At least before shit went down, Hikaru already saw Misa as more than just a friend/work companion. Retarded idiots like you are the worst.

B-But Misa won!!
B-But Hikaru left Minmay for Misa!
B-But MUH Macross tradition...

Jesus christ. It's like you all ignore Misa's development and take only what suits you best so your Mirage delusion works.

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>>146845118
Take your meds, delusional freyjafag, because you're with slainefag's syndrome

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>>146840095

>>146844404
If only

>>146845456
Mhm. Whatever you say.

>>146845402
Hikaru loved Minmay more than Misa. He just chose her out convenience and by the same act keked himself another time.

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>>146844404
This
Nowadays, Female MC = Yuri

>>146845638
Why can't they do a love triangle with a female as the MC and 2 supporting male character?

>>146845636
Hikaru's "love" for Minmay always struck me as childish, like a projection of him liking a cute idol. They didn't work at all. That relationship was full of cracks.

Minmay only saw Hikaru as an escape from her idol life.
Hikaru saw Minmay as a cute idol he'd like to date. A fantasy if you will.

And that's why HikaruMinmay would never work. They never met halfway.

Misa on the other hand understood him and was a better choice overall for him.

>>146845456
He has a point though. She's definitely more relevant. It's to be expected though, since the main thing in Delta is the idol action, not the mecha action.

Also, the ending they building up to is a showdown between Mikumo and Freyja (plus the other Walkure girls). I can't see Hayate having a major role in all this. Sure he'll fight to support Freyja and Walkure but that's about it.

It's kind of an inversal of roles from Frontier, where the idol songs were support for the mecha pilot.

>>146845232
>people compared Mirage with Misa
>now they're comparing Freyja with Minmay

Here's the difference newfag. In SDF, Hikaru had a one sided crush on Minmay, so Misa was there to talk to him when he felt down, so they fell in love. In Delta, Hayate had no crush, he started out as friends with Freyja. The two would always playfully tease each other and support each other. Freyja now loves him and so far it's strongly implied he loves her back. As for Mirage, he saved them a couple times, spoke with Hayate a few times, fell in love with him for some reason, but has made no romantic advances towards him at all. To make things worse, Hayate has not once looked at Mirage as more than just a friend or a teacher. What exactly makes you believe Hayate will just give up on Freyja when the circumstances of both shows are very different?

>>146845767
Probably because the producers are afraid it would feel too much like shoujo.

>>146845814
>idol
>Filthy Windermerian
>30 yo life expectancy

>>146844425
>>146845118
is this AnimeSuki or reddit?

>>146845638
No sane person would want to get cucked by a man while watching anime

>>146845892
>idol
Sheryl was an idol
>Filthy Windermerian
Well Hayate is a filthy Human
>30 yo life expectancy
Sheryl had even less time to live when Alto fell for her

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>>146845892
>>146845908
Why are people this retarded?

>>146846015
We will see with the ending in 3 weeks.

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>>146846082
pls Kamille-kun leave

>>146845022
What will happen to Mikumo? That's the real question. She is supposed to be a Star Singer or something.

>>146845638
>a love triangle with a female as the MC and 2 supporting male character
This only happens in shoujo, In other genres it's always Yuri.

>>146846399
>What will happen to Mikumo? That's the real question. She is supposed to be a Star Singer or something.
Chances are very good that the ruins wouldn't survive the end of the show. And that without the ruins Mikumo would be just an ordinary girl with some minor superpowers.

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>>146846082
>posting kamille
>calling other people retarded

>>146846495
Was Escaflowne a Shojo?

>>146846553
The original manga was shounen, but Kawamori changed everything and made it shoujo like (there's an interview when they talk about why they did it). The various manga adaptations that were published after the anime are all shoujo manga.

>>146846553
>Escaflowne
MECHA is not the main GENRE of Escaflowne.

>>146845816
>>146846495
As if it isn't shoujo now with a male mc and two girls. If Mirage wasn't part of this triangle, Hayate and Freyja would be all over each other with no triangle drama needed.

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>>146846538
Kamille was just too smart for everyone.

>>146846654
>The original manga
Escaflowne is an original anime though.

>>146846755
What do you mean?

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>>146846854

>>146846755
Mecha is never the main genre in 99% of the mecha show

>>146846863
>Escaflowne is an original anime though.
No, it was a adapted from a manga. The manga is so different it doesn't look like an adaptation though.

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>>146847028
This is perfectly true.
Time to fucking end myself

I wonder where Mikumo learned her sick CQB skills. Did Messer or Mirage give her lessons?

>>146847040
The shonen manga was started while the anime series was in production. Escaflowne was created and imagined by Shoji Kawamori.

>>146847292
>>146847040
>Initially, the series was planned at thirty-nine episodes, with Yasuhiro Imagawa brought on board to direct. He is credited with coining the word "escaflowne", a Latin-based derivative of the word "escalation", that would be used in the title. Imagawa saw the series as being a typical shōnen series that was heavily male oriented and featuring a shapely heroine and dramatic battles.However, he left the project before actual production started to direct Mobile Fighter G Gundam. Without a director, the series was put on hold and Kawamori left to work on other projects. After two years sitting on the shelf, Sunrise revisited the project and brought in relative newcomer Kazuki Akane as the new director. In order to broaden the potential audience, Akane decided to add more shōjo, or girl-oriented, elements to the series. The suggestive elements were removed, several of the male characters were given more bishōnen—"beautiful boy"—appearances, and the plot element around the tarot cards were added. Akane also gave the character of Hitomi a complete make over, taking her from being a curvy, air-headed, long-haired girl with glasses to the slim, athletic, short-haired and more intelligent and confident girl seen in the final series.

>>146846863
Search in Google, you can find the list of Mecha series from newtype magazine.
series such as Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion and Escaflowne aren't classified as Meha series.

>>146840655
1) Voices
2) Angel voice
3) Angel voice - Mari Iijima version
4) Valkyria
5)Lion
6)Absolute 5
7)Love Thunder
8) Obelisk
9) Rune ga Pika tto Hikattara
10) Information high
11)Ikenai Borderline
12)Inifinty (Duo)
13) idol talk
14) Try Again
15) Northern cross
16) Ai oboeteimasuka
17) Axia
18) Giraffe blues
19) Remember 16
20) Welcome to my fanclub's night
......

9000) Anything solo by Ranka
9001) Anything solo by Mylene
9002) Anything solo by Reina and Makina

>>146847701
>Valkyria

It's "Sayonara no Tsubasa," faggot.

>>146847586
What is a Mecha series then?

>>146845892
>idol
Kawamori never care about Idol's purity.
>Filthy Windermerian
Race doesn't matter.
>30 yo life expectancy
Hayate said to Cassim that they should living fullest with the bucha gorigori time they have.

>>146847701
>9000) Anything solo by Ranka
Why? Seikan Hikou was great.

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Will they avenge Messer?

>>146847967
or one eye was enough?

>>146847701
>holy lonely light isn't even on there
>all those trash Sheryl songs
>Welcome to my fanclub's night even deserving to be on a list
Throw your list in the garbage.

>>146847967
Messer's death was payback for Bellri's.

>>146847701
No Hamtsu no Junjou!?!?!

>>146847824
When the fuck is Hayate going to say "gori gori" again? His waifu needs cheering up dammit!

>>146847967
Ruining that gorgeous face was more than enough avenging for Messer's death.

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>>146848089
He wasn't even a character.

>>146845777
Actually even in Frontier both girls were infinitely more important to both the story and lore than Alto.

>>146847824
>>146848172
I miss Hayate using Freyja's phrases. Fuck Kawamori and the other writers for stalling HayaFre and putting it on hold for the sake of drama and making them focus on the plot.

>>146848234
That's not the case in the movies.

>>146848230
Tell that to his wife and family.

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>>146848275
>defending a character that had 30 seconds of screentime and 2 lines before dying

>>146848271
That was true in the movies too. The situation could only be resolved due to their involvement.

>>146848230
He's a middle aged man. He could have had a wife and kids.

>>146848234
>>146848362
Not the same anon but the movies are mainly about Alto's character development. That's not to say Sheryl and Ranka don't get development. Sheryl specially grows quite a bit. But Alto's development is most central to the story, and comes together in the finale, as he lets go of his anger and faces the Vajra queen, and then chooses Sheryl as the girl he loves.

Delta's kind of different. Freyja's development is more important, specially now that Mikumo's looking to become an antagonist. Freyja will save her, not Hayate.

>>146848257
http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/05/28/shoji-kawamori-on-macross-delta-and-his-hopes-for-the-series/#36a94d3d1210

“As the singers became a kind of unit in Delta I was thinking of having the variable fighters as a team as well and focusing on the teamwork between the two groups. Before this plan was completed, I had an idea for a competition in terms of air combat. As this kind of competition exists within an air force, like a numbers of air force squadrons competing with one another.”

“For that premise there was no Var Syndrome, just these girl singers harmonizing with an air combat team and get themselved empowered by their songs. However, during that period the sponsor asked to have an obvious enemy in the story.”

“If there was no enemy, then I could possibly show a wide range of representation in piloting the variable fighters with a great degree of skill, so something like Macross Plus.”

“So I ended up thinking about the combination between the approach in Macross 7 with how Macross Plus worked. In that, combining singing with piloting and mind controlling.”

“However, with Delta it’s more of a combination of the manga style of Macross 7 with the realism of Macross Plus. Though the two styles are obviously completely opposite, like water and oil, the result from this difficult combination could be something new and exciting.”

“While the Saab 35 Draken is a delta shaped craft, the name for Macross Delta came from elsewhere. The name actually originated from the fact I had to include the three main elements from Macross, the battles, songs and a love triangle relationship, as this is something the sponsor were steadfast on having.
>Each time I plan for a new Macross series, I always think that it could be about time to remove one of the three elements, such as the love triangle relationship, but the sponsor always says no (laughs).”

>>146848351
No one is defending him, retard. But just because he was a background character doesn't mean that he didn't die. Should we sweep under the rug the fact that Roid put a whole planet into a coma with his ruins experiments just because those people were background characters too? Or all the people killed by the dimensional eater 7 years ago?

>>146847798
A social construction

Macross 7 has a female MC / pilot

>>146848621
Also, from another interview:

>Kawamori pointed out that the delta symbol in the logo is made of triangular symbols, to symbolize the three main thematic elements of Macross: music, a love triangle, and transforming fighter planes. However, he noted that the two symbols are split, and explained that this is indicative that the three elements will not come together as expected in the new story.

>>146848688
It doesn't look like it.

why does 7 feel so incomplete, like it's completely lacking a middle.

There's no climax, unless you count the final LISTEN TO MY SONG, but seriously it was just so over the place

Ragna Nyan Nyan is the best vehicle in Delta. Ragna Nyan Nyan w/ Super Pack when?

>>146848831
Climax happen at episode 49 where he moves mountains and the entire galaxy. TRY AGAIN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kP52iSirTI

>>146848900
exactly, which again was weak as fuck because he already dropped Try Again in ep40, with no real impact

>>146848831
The last episode has the best conclusion to any macross ever.

Max fucking sings.

>>146848982
It was more strong there since he gives life to everyone + Sivil is singing for the 1st time if i remember correctly.
There is also the climax with Angel voice in the OAVs.

>>146848831

>lacking a middle

27 might be the best episode in all of Macross.

>>146849259
Your love for 7 is going too far.

>>146840381
They're going to be ally somehow.

>>146840343
I'm going to bully the Kumo!

>>146848621
>manga style of Macross 7

Is that why the idol is winning here?

>>146841228
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpXQhoejeSQ

She is interacting with Mikumo in that recent CM as Ranka.

>>146840859
>he didn't listen to their song

>>146849670
No. It's because there was no plan to do a love Triangle for Delta >>146848621
>>Each time I plan for a new Macross series, I always think that it could be about time to remove one of the three elements, such as the love triangle relationship, but the sponsor always says no (laughs).”
He fukin trolled everyone. If you rewatch Delta again, there is little to none developpement for Mirage. Freyja on the other began to be a bit forced with the 2nd cour. They were pushing here too hard.

>>146849679
And we gonna have a rythme game in 2017 so she will work for Ranka's role for sure.

>>146841775
Didn't Kawamori say Minmay was the real MC of SDF?

>>146849777
Forced? Not too sure about that, it is a war against her planet, she's gonna be the one with the most screentime because it's her people.

Does Megumi Nakajima still have a career?

Watching Frontier, she sounds completely different to any other voice actress I've ever heard. Not exactly in a good way, either.

>>146849777
>Freyja on the other began to be a bit forced with the 2nd cour.
Why?

>>146849816
You shouldn't take everything Kawamori says as face value.

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>>146849904
She gets all the developpement while it's lacking for the others. It's like the show was about herself.

>>146849920
PreCure and some incidental shows here and there.

>>146849920
>Does Megumi Nakajima still have a career?
>Watching Frontier, she sounds completely different to any other voice actress I've ever heard. Not exactly in a good way, either.
She was selected for Frontier because she sounded different. But yeah, her career is officially on ice from 2013 onwards. It's not because she did anything bad, I think she just wasn't as popular as her agency expects her to be.

>>146850097
I wouldn't call that being forced, that's just the MC being the MC.

>>146850106
is that enough to live off

>>146849920
Her opening for Rinne no Lagrange was 5/5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaKXIxnon_8

>yfw Delta resolves the lifespan thing by allowing runes to deactivate their fold receptors which has the added benefit of Freyja's songs no longer being weapons and purely something to inspire others
Hayate will loyally say they make him feel bucha gorigori anyway without the buffing effect.

>>146849920
does being the voice of GUMI count? If no, then not really

>>146850481
>Hayate will loyally say they make him feel bucha gorigori anyway without the buffing effect.
He would be lying though.

>>146849920
Everything stopped at 2014. I don't know the reason. What about others Macrosses girl?

>>146850097
Because they wasting the episode for fanservice and infodump.

>>146850533
Nah he's a big enough Freyjafag for it to be true.

>>146850097
That's the literal definition of what makes a MC.

>>146850570
She was the MC of a Precure series from 2014-2015. That's a pretty decent role.

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>>146845777
>>146848611
>>146850097
>>146850195

Autistic people's brains are literally wired differently from normal people's.
I don't have the least doubt. delusional freyjafags are genuinely stupid people, often literally retarded.

>>146850481
No foldreceptor mean that she can't be Walkure anymore so that's not gonna happen.

>>146850570
MAY'N's wikipedia doesn't have any concerts or releases since last year.

Is there a curse on Macross singers?

>>146850570
>What about others Macrosses girl?
Frontier was the 1st to take a new VA/Singer with Ranka/Nakajima.

The next one being Freyja/Minori :^)

>>146850823
May'n did the opening of the anime Taboo Tatoo this season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfS30D12hR4

She's also doing the ending theme for the anime Shuumatsu no Izetta that will air next season.

>>146850726
anon just ignore them, they're weeb shitposters from reddit and animesuki

>>146850726
>Riddhe shitposter
You're retarded.

>>146850097
It's not like Hayate hasn't gotten any development. Would you honestly say the Hayate from episode 1 is the same from the Hayate we have now. He's no longer a bum, he no longer dances in battle, he's much more devoted to protecting Freyja, he recogbized that shitty thing he said about a couple of years being "no big deal". He's not the best MC in anime but he's the best pilot MC in Macross at least.

>>146850729
>yfw the ruins will prove a key to solving the Var problems too

>>146851176
He's not the best pilot MC, he's just a great boyfriend material.

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>>146850995
>reddit and animesuki
>Weebshits
I hate it

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>>146851176
>he's the best pilot MC in Macross at least
no. Isamu and Alto are better Pilot.

I don't count Basara because he's too autistic to fight with a VF.

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A-are delta threads usually like this?

>>146851544
This is a Macross/Gundam/Kawamori Thread.

>>146851327
>>146851513
I think what anon meant, is that out of all the pilot MCs we've had, Hayate is the most charismatic/nicest. But yeah, a lot of it boils down to him just being excellent boyfriend material for the Hoina.

>>146851513
Is Hikaru a manlet?

>>146851327
Shouldn't all Macross pilot MC's aspire to be great boyfriend material? It's a romance series after all.

>>146849904
There's important character and there's "nobody can do anything useful without this character being involved"

>>146849920
She does some shows here and there but she's seemed to have dropped off the map completely. Though that may have been her own fault for not differentiating between herself and Ranka. She pigeon-holed herself.

>>146850570
May'n is still very active, she seemed to have handled herself much better than NakaMegu.

>>146851679
Half of them are too autistic for that shit.

>>146851679
SDF Hikaru was a shit, he ditched his date with Misa for Minmay.

>>146851513
I'm not talking skills, I'm talking likability. In terms of skills, all of them are overshadowed by Max, a fucking side character. In terms of understanding the waifu, Hayate is best boy, even though he still manages to be dense.

>>146848611
I wasn't talking about their development but rather their importance to the main conflict.

We can all agree Delta is pretty shit right?

>>146850845
Mari Iijima from the original
Haruka Chigusa from 30, whose only memorable role after that was in Shirobako as the seiyuu who always fails the auditions

>>146851770
SDF Hikaru is the worst. Best girl Misa didn't deserve to be treated like a back up. At least DYRL Hikaru had the balls to confess his feelings though.

>>146851679
They're mostly shit at it. Hikaru was a scumbag, Basara was completely autistic for music, Isamu probably has STDs, Alto was too passive and too immersed in roleplay, and who the fuck even was Shin.

>>146851679
Hikaru is too retarded.
Basara is too autistic about music to care about that
Isamu is too impulsive and reckless. He was autistic about planes.
Alto is too indecisive and try to escape it.
There is only Shin who cared a little about it but it was too short in Zero.
I don't remember the others

>>146851887
>Mari Iijima
She's active as a composer/singer but she didn't try to do anything as a voice actress besides Minmay.

>>146851327

>best boyfriend is a bum who wouldn't do anything without getting mind controlled

Gamlin is the correct answer.

>>146852105
She doesn't even like people acknowledging her role. She should be more like Mark Hamill. Embrace the character that made your career as a VA.

>>146852179
Gamlin is best girl.

>>146850705
That's the literal definition of what makes a retarded characterfag in love with a fictional character

>>146851291
>yfw the ending isn't even going to touch on natural var

I expect tons of dangling plot threads personally.

>>146852298
>the NUNS never show up again

>>146852179
Wut? I thought this mind controling meme already end.

>>146852179
Gamlin a best but he wasn't the MC. Macross MCs are traditionally subpar at romance.

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>>146851870
I've been telling everybody that for months now. After the past four weeks of categorically noting the threads' discontent with the direction Macross Magical Princess Idol Show is going, I believe I can not only reasonably state "I told you so", but emphatically declare that for as long as manchild Kawamori clutches his greasy hands to a franchise he has no business being in control of, the discerning anime viewer will never receive the Macross they deserve without turning to Robotech, the superior product, for satisfaction.

The ride will seemingly never end, my friends, but no one said you were obligated to sit on that train forever. Jump the rails any time, we at Harmony Gold will be here to catch you and take you home.
t. Carl Macek, the Invid Flower of Life

Best Macross girl?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11171716

>>146852179
>>146852200
Mirage should have been like Gamlin. If she's gonna act like a loser, she should at least have a fun personality to go with it. Have her sing Walkure sings, poorly. She may not rival Freyja in the triangle but she can rival her in being best girl.

>>146842728
ranka fag still mad till now, hilarious

>>146851839
They're important to the main conflict as mcguffins. The central active character in the conflict is Alto. He faces the Vajra queen and resolves the conflict (with the support of Ranka and Sheryl's song, of course). Ranka also has the role of teaching Alto to understand the Vajra.

At least that's what happens in the movie. I didn't watch the series.

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>>146851544
>genki girls
>moe girls
always attract a large number of shitposters and cancers.

>>146852448
Gamlin is a main character in 7 with Mylene and Basara.

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>>146852745

>>146850419
this

ranka a shit

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Freyja has AIDS

>>146853270
Well so does Hayate so it's all good.

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>>146847967
Probably not.

Why are there 3 first episode for frontier? Which one do I watch to get all the stuff?

>>146854632
Broadcast version.

>>146840343
The reason they put her on the medical ship is to fix her broken fucking fingers, apparently.

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>I'm going to make you a mother....

>>146855220
delete this

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>>146853305
Post more cute

>>146855370
You first

>>146847967
Kaname will kill Keith with her own hands

>>146853941
fangs are objectively the worst.

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>>146855541
I don't have much

>>146855751
>I don't have much
Ah, so that is why you're going to save it for later. That's fine. Get the Mirage out of your system before cute posting.

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>>146855751
Surprise surprise....

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>>146855925
I've got your back, senpai.

>>146855925
>>146856125
>only a few more weeks of Mirage bullying
I am going to miss you guys

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>>146855286
No. Their meeting was destiny.

>>146856210
MA LOVE TSUNDA GUROL FOR YOU
LIKE A NORTHA BLUE

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>>146855925
And this one here

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>>146856187
I am going to miss all the Mirage bullying too. It's been a nice ride, senpai. Let us see this through until the end.

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I am going to miss <<Buddy>> posting.

<<REMOVE FREYJA>>

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>>146856187
>>146856472
While I am a freyjafag, I wish there didn't need to be any Mirage bullying. She could have been a funny meme meltran like Reina.

>>146856756
Honestly? I'm generally a pretty nice and neutral person when it comes to shipping and character faves. But Miragefags had it coming with how much they shat on Freyja with their memes up until episode 16. And even then, they still continue to insult Freyja, wish for her to die, and make edits of Mirage killing Freyja. I have little to no sympathy for Miragefags.

>>146854632
yack deculture

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>>146856992
The Mirage killing Freyja edits are actually pretty funny.

>>146856992
Oh please Freyjafags were giving as good as they got right from the get go, don't try to sanitize the shitposting and act like it was one sided.

>>146857077
I never said it was one sided. All I said was that Miragefags weren't exactly innocent and that spurred wars.

You may not like it or want to admit it, but Miragefags have a tendency to be more aggressive in the intensity of their attacks than Freyjafags. While Freyjafags taunt and called Mirage useless/lack of screen time...Miragefags call Freyja an idiot genki girl, Ranka 2.0, constantly say she'll die, call her a cancer bitch, etc.

Different views, I guess.

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Nice Frontier callback.

>>146857983
Damn, you post this in everythread anon. So Hayate feel her pain or got VAR'd?

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>>146855925
>>146856125
>>146856187
>>146856360

>>146858061
Sick of losing screen time to Chuck 2.0: female zent edition

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>>146858109
I hate it but I knew how this was going to end from day 1

>>146858038
I didn't post this anywhere, I found it outside of this site just now. Anyways, I think he feels her pain. That's what the comparison is for.

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Are they ever going to address if Freyja singing is killing her?

Hell, she's already over the hill Windemerian-wise.

>>146846207
Trust me it will be sky end for Hayate on Windermere.

>>146858178
I didn't I thought she would be something. I was wrong. Luckily I came for Freyja.
I am a bit annoyed they wasted the Jenius legacy. What was the point of making her one? They only mentioned it twice and it never mattered at all.

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>>146858234
Look at this >>146856756

Her body is fine. I'm guessing it's happening to Heinz because of too much exposure to the ruins while singing. Mind controlling the galaxy comes at a price. I just want to see Keith give his sick little brother a hug.

>>146857327
Oh... you forgot to mass production of headcanons and fanwanks by freyjafags

>>146858453
>Her body is fine
Oh shit you're right. Using your rune/singing is a killer fags BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>146858234
>she

What?
Females have heart shaped runes

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>>146858482
>head canon
MIRAGE IS GONNA BE THE NEXT IDOL YOU GUYS. TRUST ME.

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>>146858557

>>146843327
All of them except Freyja and Reina.

>>146858627
>can't dispute it
>posts squid
Ah, vindication.

>>146858802
>>146858557
Kek, I remember that.

>obviously Mirage in a Walkure outfit is foreshadowing that Mirage will join Walkure!! She'll take Mikumo's place as the center!! Look they even made a figurine! Hahaha Freyjafags BTFO.

>>146859050
>not posting the fixed version

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sexy

>tfw Hayate use his dad's VF to save the day
I just want more windniggers butthurt.

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cute

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>>146859223
My fucking heart

>>146858557
I don't want to put a waifu wars fuel but damn I remember when they said Mirage wil get her arc and focus after episode 6.

>>146858178
I thought she was going to win from the start. I was surprised by how likable Freyja was, so since winner girl is best girl, I was really looking forward to Mirage stealing my heart. But that hasn't happened. A few cute moments here and there but nothing compared to the hoina.

>>146859356
Local shinpi not so tough after being bullied

>>146859493
Mirage's character arc completely sputtering out more or less unresolved probably explains why Miragefags are so aggressive.

>>146859493
My favorite Miragefags headcanon was when they said Freyja was mindcontrolling Hayate into liking her. And that after episode 18, Hayate would leave Freyja because he didn't give a fuck about her and he would run into Mirage's arms.

>>146859606
>not posting her at the end of the episode
Local squid not so tough after being molested

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>>146859589
That gap moe captivates me

>>146859631
>mindcontrolling Hayate into liking her
That's right. That their sync was a form of mind control and he just liked her because of their mental connection. When will the desperate Miragefags stop it with their head canon?

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Freyja has a penis which has ballooned to at least ten times the average size.

>>146859686
>When will the desperate Miragefags stop it with their head canon?

Several years after the show ends, once they've had some therapy.

>>146859711
Good. Time for the Freyers to take Hayate from behind and show him who's his daddy. I'm sure Hayate and his daddy complex will appreciate it.

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Where were you when Freyja won the Hayate bowl?

>>146859744
Exactly this. Hayate is just looking for a new dad now, given that Mirage is his new mother.

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>>146859711
DELETE THIS

>>146860074
It's still not over. She may have a 90% chance of winning but there's always that 5% chance she'll lose. The other 5% is for sky ending.

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>>146860074
The usual place - before my pc having show on hold since 20.

>>146860179
I think it's more 50% Freyja 45% Sky

>>146860222
They must be swimming in gold if they can make 100 seasons/cours of one show.

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>>146860222
Waiting to marathon the end is a good idea, but shitposting on /a/ about each episode is even more fun.

>>146858557 >>146858802 >>146858959 >>146859493 >>146859626 >>146859631 >>146859686 >>146859739 >>146859739 >>146860074 >>146860179 >>146860231
>>146860074 >>146860102
When will the desperate Freyjafags stop replying your own shitposts?
Stop replying to your own shitposts

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>When will the delusional Freyjafags stop it with their head canon?

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She's so best girl without even trying but if she actually ends up together with Roid this'll become shittier than Aldnoah Zero's ending.

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>>146860429
Why are Mirage fags so easy to bait?

>>146860429
>f-fuck you I-I bet you're only one person
Simply Eric

>>146860531
Because they are temperamental, aggressive and inexperienced, like their namesake.

delta 4

>>146860500
>giving a shit about who squid gets with
Dude, at least Roid is an actual and fleshed out character. He has friends, hobbies, motivations, skills and dreams. There are worse outcomes insofar as romantic conclusions. Look at Hayate, he might end up with Mirage who has basically no characterisation.

>>146858234
They did actually. Waaay back in episode 6. Mikumo is humming the song of the wind. Then she notes that she can feel the life force in the song, which is because Heinz is literally burning his life force singing it. Then she looks at Freyja and says "It's strange, I don't feel anything like that from you"

>>146860429
>can't find a counter argument
>I-I'll just call them delusional. T-that'll show them.

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>>146860617
>when you get so cranky you forget to greentext

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>>146860531
Why are Freyja fags so easy to bait?

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>>146860617
>he doesn't browse with a script that automatically loads deleted posts

>>146860678
I saw you deleted your original post, Miragefag. The one where you originally copy pasted "miragefags" but then you realized your mistake and deleted it.

Kek

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>>146860678
kek, you're a thousand years too early to challenge me kiddo.

>>146860074
pls Wandering Soul leave

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>>146860678
This is a good thread. Sadly I think all the resistance will be scared off for awhile. It will be a few days before we get anything of this quality again.

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UTA WA GENKI

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>>146860958
UTA WA SHINPI

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>>146860767
I saw you deleted your original post, Freyjafag. The one where you originally copy pasted "miragefags" but then you deleted and re-posted to blame other fags.

kek, you're a thousand years too early to challenge me kiddo.

>Hayate is going to hook up with a girl he will not only outlive, but he'd outlive their children as well
>Not hooking up with the girl who will probably live to be 250 and will only start looking middle aged at 100

Poor life choices.

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>>146860979
UTA WA INOCHI

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>>146861003
UTA WA KIBOU

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>>146860678
>failing this hard

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>>146860984
>I- I can't argue with anon
>it's time to use "that"
>I know you are, but what am I?

>>146860664
>Frejyamato

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>>146861038
UTA WA AI

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>>146860979
Fuark where were these being sold? All I saw in Akiba were Valk kits.

>Series almost over
>Still wish that Windermere was burned to the ground

Can they at least try and make us feel sorry for them? All we have to feel sorry for is Mastah Hermann and the guy that died last week. The rest of Windermere is still scum.

>>146860984
Your edginess is so out there, senpai. Please stop. It's scaring the children.

>>146861092
http://hobby.dengeki.com/event/256394

>>146861117
But NUNS is not? This war has no good or evil. Both sides are fucking idiots. Just like real wars.

>>146861092
>you can get based windies
Niiiice

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>>146860664
This version is slightly better.

>>146861178
NUNS were always assholes though, the only series they weren't was probably the original SDF.

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>>146861225
Frejya Lee

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>>146861218
Y-yeah. It looks like a l-lot of fun.

>>146861354
man i want one now

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>>146861470
They buy one on the internet. I know they're at least on AmiAmi, so you don't even have to go to Akiba.