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Despair in a couple days. 16 and Chiaki dies this week.
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Posting best girl
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>>146827078
Fuck off with your canon slut and fatty fucker.
She's galko level of coalburning
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>>146827058
Place your bets, who is going to survive the encounter with Munakata aside from Naegi?
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Your truth bullets:

Small hard candies: They are scattered about the scene, there are several in her mouth, some appear in a straight line down the length of her body and continuing between her legs. None are bloodied.

Larger Pastries: all of the pastries are stained with some blood. One appears to be malformed to the body's left side.

Eyes: The victim's eyes are completely reddened, and tears remain on her face.

Clothes: her shirt is in total disarray, with tears/cuts across its entirety. A few smaller tears/cuts can be seen on the shorts.

Stab wound: There is a stab wound inflicted into the victims heart by a similar knife used on victims of the traitor.

Bruises: the victim has various bruises across their upper body including their arms.

Hands: something about the hands may play a role in determining her killer

Gashes on the legs: there are seven visible gashes along the legs of the victim. Two appear sutured (although this could be an artifact of the animation, if so regard them as the other gashes), and only one appears to have suffered any major bloodflow

Leggings: The victim's right legging is lower than the left, which is pulled tightly.

Boots: Something about her boots maybe

Environment: A slab of reinforced concrete lay to the victim's right, two bent rebar rods extend over the body. There's a big ass hole in the ceiling, and there are multiple cracks along the floor tiling as well.

Blood spatter pattern: the blood spatter may play a role.

Hat: The victim's hat is entirely free of blood.

Class trial, BEGIN.
Use the truth bullets to determine the killer
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>>146827078
Why does everyone hate Ibuki? I mean she ain't my top pick, but I still think she's ok.
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Reminder that this LUCKY SON OF A BITCH

"predicted" what the objective of the final killing game was several episodes ago

and basically,

YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID
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>>146827078
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>>146827058
I want to marry Sonia
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>>146827118
I use the bullet "Naegi, tell them"
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>>146827078
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CHIAKI WILL DIE THIS WEEK
KIRIGIRI WILL SURVIVE NEXT WEEK
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>>146827167
Alright then, I'll start things off.
I think we should determine exactly what killed her.
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>>146827109
Kill yourself.

>>146827130
Edgy cunts who hate fun.

>>146827160
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>>146827161
You can't marry to Sonia.

You can be only owned by her.

You can't be loved by Sonia

You can be only fucked by her.

Most likely in one of her rape dungeons.
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>>146827146

>implying this wasn't explicit foreshadowing that he's the mastermind
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>>146827078
She's cute but far from best grill.
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>>146827206
Naegi, tell them
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soniacucks are more annoying than kirifags
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>>146827130
>/u/ bait
>shitty fte's
>"lel so randumb xdd"
>ibukifags are shitposters.
>spam threads with ibuki
>tell people to fuck off when asked to stop
>"muh best girl" spam

Jeez, I dunno why people hate her.
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>>146827058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERO5nsmYQy4
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>>146827118
Isn't it "case 4" time at this point of the anime?
There's probably going to be one more death.
But to your point, I'm pretty sure she killed herself, basing it on the cloth fragments underneath her fingernails.
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>>146827228
>You can be only owned by her.
>You can be only fucked by her.
>Most likely in one of her rape dungeons.
I don't really see a problem here anon.
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>>146827206
It's been determined in-show that every victim of the killer is stabbed directly through the heart.

Please stop with this autistic charade.
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>>146827248
I won't fall for this bait.
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>>146827161
I want Sonia to marry Hajime!
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>>146827252
>>146827252
>>ibukifags are shitposters.
>>spam threads with ibuki
>>tell people to fuck off when asked to stop
>>"muh best girl" spam
you mean like the other chiaki,mikan or other shitty waifubaits faggots
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JABBERWOCK LITERALLY FUCKING WHEN
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>>146827256
>Hitler reacts video
Kill yourself.
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>>146827118
Something about her hands is strange... What is it?
>[Improved Hangman's Gambit]
>FPEESIABSCIROCF
>PIECES OF FABRIC
Yes, I've got it!
Take another look at her hands. It's best seen on her left hand. Notice those small pieces of fabric in it? Their color matches the color of the clothes she's wearing. Which means...
The one who shredded Ruruka's clothes was Ruruka herself!
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>>146827228
>>146827264
>Being Sonia's rape slave

Yeah, I don't see how is that bad.
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>>146827146
>brilliant sparks fly
Holy shit
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When you think about it, there have been too much foreshadowing that Nagito did something.

Furthermore, while he was gone from HPA, he was actually abroad.

And when he returned to HPA, guess who else coincidentally returned from being abroad.

What are you doing, Kodaka?
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>>146827278
is not a bait you cucks are posting the same shit every thread
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>>146827248
What kind of fags are the most obnoxious anyway?
>Chiakifags
>Mikanfags
>Junkofags
>Nagitofags
>Juzoboys
>Soniafags
>Ibukifags
>Kirigirifags
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rate pls
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>>146827206
asphyxiated by candy
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>>146827058
I will relish the day Persona dies.
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>>146827320
>Junko is Chisa
>Persona is Hopeman
KODAKAAAAAA
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qt
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>>146827290
Did I say they were the only type of cancer that populates these threads?

People hate Chiaki and Mikanfags too. Only Ibukifags can be this delusional to believe only them are persecuted.
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>>146827236
She might not be the overral best girl, but she'll always be my personal best girl and waifu.

>>146827216
Thanks, I'll always be a Kirigirifag and fight for what's right
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>>146827130
She was pretty underdeveloped with no real redeeming qualities except for being the village idiot.
She has aswell the worst fanbase. They contribute to nothing and go out of their way to derail the thread into waifu war.
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>>146827341
Gay/10
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>>146827161
I mean it when I say I want an invitation. I don't care if it's in 2land or with your dakimakura. I will literally drink all of your beer and sleep on your couch.

>>146827328
And you get mad about it in every thread. It's the circle of life! Be happy!

>>146827341
Great taste my man. 8/10
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>>146827341
Decent/10
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>>146827320
>Komaeda and Munakata returned to HPA the same day
How did I never realize
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>>146827394
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>>146827341
>Ibuki, Sakura and Genocider that high
It's shit.
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So how likely is it actually that Kirigiri faked her death and that Boxer is still not dead?
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I'll be back to victorypost later. Have fun anons, and remember—you're appreciated.
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Note well that while an insane edgelord, Munakata has NEVER BEEN WRONG

>Says that the Izuru Project is dangerous because the project could be defective, that it could make students riot, and that a rogue individual could exploit it for the sake of despair

>What happens is precisely that

>Tells Naegi that if he wants Kirigiri to live he needs to kill himself

>Naegi doesn't and Kirigiri dies. If he did she would have lived.

So what do you think about him calling Aoi "Despair?"
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How big were Ruruka's Rurukas?
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>>146827320
Oh shiiit
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>>146827238
God damnit
alright, I think she was KILLED with the knife.
I don't think that was the first thing that happened, but her death was caused by the knife.

>>146827261
There are no cloth fragments under her fingernails, only some in both of her palms.

>>146827270
Unless she's not a victim of the killer.

>>146827306
But is that a logical assumption we can really make? Perhaps we'll need to determine something else before we can draw a conclusion about this.

>>146827345
SORE WA CHIGAU YO
None of the candies have any blood on them at all, yet there is blood surrounding the mouth, which means, if the candies were present when the blood appeared, the candies would not be so clean!
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>>146827449
Both are dead.
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>>146827328
I like to post "I want to marry Sonia!" just to have an easy way of identifying which threads I posted in. I also find it fun.

Bully-anon gave me this idea when he told us why he was always posting his pasta.

>>146827394
In 2Dland, of course. It'll never happen and it hurts. Unless VR becomes what we hope for.
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>>146827461
About Mikan-sized probably.
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>they've finally reunited in the heaven

;_;
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>>146827449
Kirigiri didn't fake her dead on purpose, she used the cure W with the hope that it can save her. But she's probably gonna use it in her advantage since she's probably out of the game since the ng code was activated.
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>>146827449
>Kirigiri
Quite likely she faked/survived by medicine
>Boxer
He's gone
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GIVE BACON HANDS BACK IT'S NOT FAIR
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Smooth or Unsmooth?
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>>146827206

X - GRAVEL
Y - BEANIE
A - THE
B - IN
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>>146827449
Very likely.
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>>146827430
>Kyoko as Sherlock
>Makoto as Watson
>Chihiro as their Mrs. Hadson (male) (and cute)
>It will never be real
I don't even care how fanfictiony it sounds, it's too cool.
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>>146827514
>Ruruka
>Heaven
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>>146827543
Don't lose hope anon
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>>146827458
>Tells Naegi that if he wants Kirigiri to live he needs to kill himself
No he didn't.
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>>146827292

>Izuru vs FF showdown on Jabberwock will happen entirely offscreen and we only see the aftermath
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>>146827556
IN THE GRAVEL BEANIE
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>>146827339
junkofags definitely
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>>146827612
So, Mikan and Kodaka?
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>>146827612
>junkofags definitely
That only makes us happier to know.
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>>146827557
I love how the parallels basically confirm that Juzo really was about to confess.
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>>146827665
case in point
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A smile that /a/ couldnt protect
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>>146827604
Hajizuru vs 13th Branch Commander, Nanami-san
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>>146827339
Mikanfags and Junkofags. And Nagitofags to some extent when they spam the thread.
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>>146827058
Christ, that tracker is so depressing to look at.
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>>146827732
Neither could Koichi
But at least it wasn't completely in vain, since if she fell, the notepad would've been gone alongside her.
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Is this really the end of the Juzo boys?
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>>146827732
Seeko protected that smile.
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>>146827783
The guy who posted the pasta was probably banned.
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Just gonna say that I'm on cloud 9 through all this. I miss Fedora but Hagakure is super safe so far - the crazy fucker can dodge bullets for hours, become a survivalist, and calmly roll away from a building collapsing around him.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN REMOTELY STOP THE HOT TEACHER?!
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>>146827783
There will be a resurgence when he's revealed to be a gay cuck.
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>>146827755
>Mikanfags, Junkofags. Nagitofags
>How to identify an Ibukishitter 101
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How do you bring Junko over to the side of HOPE, /a/?
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>>146827783
I hope not, nothing should be able to even remotely control them.
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>>146827834
Kill her.
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>>146827811
>Hagakure
>Hot

yeah seems legit.
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>>146827834
Give her a Naegi.
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>>146827834
With my dick.
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>>146827826
Nagitofags are fine most of the time.
Junkofags come up with retarded theories.
Mikanfags are literal faggots.
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>>146827732
Kyosuke and despair will soon feel the wrath/love of Makato's hope. Smiles live on in survivors, such HOPE

>>146827834
Impossible by human works
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>>146827826
typical junkofag. piss themselves whenever someone says anything bad about their waifu.
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>>146827877
>Mikanfags are literal faggots.
I can't hear you over the sound of your waifu dying.
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>>146827783
Dont you worry, we're still here, and will always be! Juzofriend may be sleeping or something like that, I don't know
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Seiko-chan please
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They were first put to sleep by a sleeping gaz. When they woke up, they discovered their bracelets around their wrists.
Monokuma said the game already started and Chisa was found dead at the end of the first episode.
So the first timelimit was offscreen. They were put at sleep twice in a row. Else, Kirigiri's count would be wrong.
Also she was shocked when she first checked her NG action.
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>>146827858
Well...he is. He was before and especially now.
> that dreadlock ponytail too
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IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN EVEN REMOTELY CONTROL OUR BOY JUZORaiden's not allowed

>Punched Naegi so hard Rihanna playing sticks and stones
>Knee'd the fuck out of Anxiety fag and makes niggers drop faster than the Detroit police department
>Went one on one with the Gozuboys
>Rekt Hinata so hard he turn Izuru
>100% accuracy rate in Olympic chair throwing, that one miss on Kirigiri was just to flex his muscles and check dat ass
>Went full ham on the old man and crew just to get his kick quota fulfilled
>Roundhousekicks the everlasting shit out of Monaca's puppet
>Too busy punching manlets, so some mentally deranged kid blows up half the school
>Great try, but no normalfags died
Fucking reeeeeeeeeee
>Tried to kill the donut but jobbed again
>Survived 2 missile barrages by some random ass cripple in a wheelchair
>Called out Monokuma's bluff with his cameras, recording his mad-ass pecs and didn't give a fuck in general about any of these plebians
>Became the world champion in boxing, declaring himself to be best with bare hand combat before even leaving high school
>Too Alpha to mess with the bitches and instead neglects his own feelings as being the third wheel to protect his friends no matter what
>Only taking 2 episodes rest before kicking the shin of everyone again.
>Took a fucking spear to the shoulder, impaled into a wall and shrugged it off like it was just a mosquito bite
>Seduced by Ruruka's sweets, but who gives a shit, our boy definitely doesn't. Fuck candy and fuck that whore, time to get her killed via NG
>Kicks the riot down with the power of flaming fists and thousands of normies
>Crawling to safety as we speak! :v(

>HE WILL BE THE ONE TO SLAY PUNISHED SHADOW PERSONA, A MAN WHO HAS ALREADY BECOME DESPAIR, A MAN WITH NO WAIFU, NOTHING TO LOSE

J U Z O B O Y S
U
Z
O

B
O
Y
S

PS: Normalfriends and Chiakifriends need not apply to based Juzo
>>146827804
Haha! I'm not out yet, my friend!
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Anyone got that gif where Hopeman goes into maximum objection overdrive?
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>>146827783
Well there is always the despair side episodes where he is still around
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>>146827896
>Junkofag
Don't compare my angel to that slut.
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>>146827471
>Unless she's not a victim of the killer.

That means the killer didn't kill anyone and the game should be over.
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>>146827834
It's 2016, so we bring people to our side by twisting the words' definitions!
"Enoshima-san, what you feel isn't despair. Despair is hope+power. You, as a marginalized woman who is oppressed by the Patriarchy, do not have power, so you cannot feel or want despair. It's just hope."
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>>146827922
Yeah, I haven't thought about it.

When they first knocked out, did it count as first sleeping session or not? Or first time was when Gozu bit the dust? Kinda important.
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>>146827958
not necessarily.
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>You will never give Mahiru a soapy
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>>146827932
Hagakure's fuckable, in a stoner kinda way.
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>>146827916
(You)

>>146827939
wew. Good to know you are okay.
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>>146827783
Not yet, he has to btfo by Junko Thursday first
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I just realized that if next week is Jabberwock, even the survivor count won't tell us anything if it's any number other than five.
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>>146827939
Glad to know Juzo boys are still aboard.
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>>146827058
Why is Kirigiri crossed out? We already have it pretty much confirmed that she's still alive.
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>>146827984
Once they hit the timelimit, the attackers wakes up and kills someone.
That's what Monokuma explained. Chisa was killed by the attacker so their bracelet injected the sleeping drug.
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>>146827939
Reporting in, brother!

I cropped this slightly different Juzo from the one you posted yesterday. I don't know if you also did this one but it was good practice!

>>146828040
We would never quit! We're on this until the end!
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>>146828041
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>146828029
>Juzo BTFO
>Chiaki dying
>Chisa theory proven right

It's going to be beautiful.
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>>146827922
If there's no trick to the time limit, Kirigiri is really dead.
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The DR team sure love thighs dont they?
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>>146827058
Munakata stop cosplaying Kaneki
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>>146828034
What if the number is 7?
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>>146827941
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>>146827939
JUZOBOYS
Glad to see you're back, I was a little worried tbqh after episode 9 but we should be fine now
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>>146828104
Who doesn't?
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>>146827146
He is the 16th player, not the mastermind.

His NG code is "revealing yourself to the other players"
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>>146828166
He's in Jabberwock though.
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>>146828132
Would you an intelligent, evil beta Akane?
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>>146828124
Don't worry brother, we will never leave!
He's been posting normally, you were probably just unlucky to be here when he was offline
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>>146828193
nah he got lucky and found a hidden one person airplane.
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>>146828118
At the beginning of the episode there were 9 survivors.

1. Naegi
2. Kirigiri
3. Asahina
4. Ruruka
5. Munakata
6. Juzo
7. Mitarai
8. Miayabot/16th participant(?)
9. Hagakure/16th participant(?)

We saw the apparent deaths of four participants: Miayabot, Juzo, Ruruka, and Kirigiri. I would say that out of all of them, we can rule Ruruka and Miayabot as very dead, though the latter's status as a participant is questionable. This means that with a counter of 7, either Miayabot wasn't a participant or one of the other two survived.
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>>146828071
Explain the bottle retard. I can't wait for it to be confirmed either next week or at the end that she's still alive.
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>>146828220
Hell yes
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>>146828244
oh, you're shitposting, my bad, keep it up.
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>>146828027
>>146828040
>>146828124
No need to worry, my friends! There's three more weeks to go and we'll stand strong till the end as there's no reason to give in when we're this close to the end, our comradery will carry our boy through and we will stay till the end of the ride!

>>146828065
Yup! I was the one who did that one my friend. It was one of the toughest crops due to the jacket, you've done great work my friend. God bless you!
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>>146828268

hagakure doesn't have a bracelet, he can't be a player.
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>>146827261
No, Case 4 would have been Kizakura given how Case 4 usualy revolves around self sacrifice.
Andou's brutal murder is closer to Mukuro'sand Komaeda's murders.
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Was Koichi's sacrifice in vain?
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>>146828220
I guess it makes sense that her hair has a similar shape to Komaeda's.
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>>146828290
J
U
Z
BOYZ
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I had this song on repeat for a while today and she was all i could think about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3WIHtOmkBg

So tear me open but beware
There’s things inside without a care
And the dirt still stains me
So wash me until I’m clean

It grips you, so hold me
It stains you, so hold me
It hates you, so hold me
It holds you, so hold me
Until it sleeps

So tell me why you’ve chosen me
Don’t want your grip
Don’t want your greed
Don’t want it

I’ll tear me open, make you gone
No more can you hurt anyone
And the fear still shakes me
So hold me until it sleeps
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>>146828290
Isn't the 12th episode a special?
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>>146828330
I put Hagakure because it can't be totally ruled out that the survivor counter is a red herring and it was counting him the whole time. I doubt it at this point, though.
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>>146828382
No because he gave Kirigiri the time needed to solve the case.
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>>146828280
If that is shitposting then nagito is a shitcharacter, because all his character development is literally shitposting.
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>>146828397
>Junkofags are Metallicafags
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People who keep claiming that Kirigiri is dead funnily are completely unable to explain why the bottle was shown and why her hand looks like it was grabbing something. Most people showing that she's alive aren't happy about it - we've had this death set up for a number of episodes only to have it be a repeat of the same sort of
fake out we saw earlier. It's shit.

But it's time to accept that the ending to this series isn't going to be very good. I don't know why anyone has any faith in Kodaka anyway.
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>>146828407
Yes it is my friend! The 12th episode of Zetsubou-hen is a special one and the 13th episode of Mirai-hen is a special one. They'll be commentary with the VA's, so you're right! It might be an extra week that I'll be tagging along!
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>>146827320
>>146827409
>Komaeda and Munakata return the same day
>Implying they returned in the same plane
>"Only" Munakata should know about the underwater building
Hmmmmm...
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>>146828228
Ah ok that's a relief, yeah I couldn't get on the threads much yesterday anyways
>>146828290
Exactly my friend, we must stay strong and help our boy pull through!
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>>146828382
If Kirigiri is dead and has nothing of worth in her notebook, then yes.
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>MEAT ON THE BONE
>SWIMSUIT GRAVEL
>CAMERA ANGLE
>OCTAGON
>SELECT SOMEONE!
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SO MANY QUESTIONS
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Isn't despair last episode supposed to take part after future?
Anyway, I hope V3 takes place in a another universe and this one gets a happy end.
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>>146828382
Not if Kyoko's notebook has any useful notes.
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Do you guys think Kirigiri always wears a condom since she's always wearing her gloves?
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>>146828449
All it will be is Kohacka running damage control after he failed to live up to his promise that this would be the ultimate fan material, with the VA's helping him by thanking people for watching and spouting "I hope you enjoyed it". Pointless, just like Future in general really.
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>>146828474
>>146828505
It has Makoto's lewd pics of his thick ahoge
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>>146828268

gekkobot recognized munakata as a "new" FF member

real munakata is the 16th member, his NG code is to not reveal himself until a certain amount of time has passed.

during the naegi v raiden fight, real munakata appears to save the day.

fake munakata is the ultimate imposter who got /fit/
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>>146828482
Swimsuit and angle were piss easy, man.
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>>146828496
Despair has only 11 episodes.
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>>146828482
>Thea
>Ter
>Bonus
>Prize
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>>146828513
I don't think Kirigiri has a dick.
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I'm guessing Mahirufags, Chiakifags, Kirigirifags and Soniafags are back on top
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>>146828540
>Swimsuit
>Piss easy
I hate you.
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Honestly all you idiots going around saying "Kirigiri isn't really dead because Junko didn't really die in DR1" are forgetting that a real honest to goodness human being died in Junko's place and that was a major element of the plot.

Kirigiri really got poisoned, and what's more, she was poisoned in her sleep, with no possibility of taking an antidote unless

1.) She was the attacker, which is stupid
2.) The attacker gave her this "Cure W" while she was asleep, which is equally stupid
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>>146828546
Why is the BD/DVD listing a total of 24 episodes?
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>>146828573
On top of what?
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>>146828220
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If Kirigiri dies, I will riot. Who's with me?

Since one person trying to riot isn't exactly called a riot.
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>>146828572
>Kirigiri doesn't have a dick
What.
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Might have to update this
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>>146828539
>Fake Munakata will be the one to save the day.
>The Munakata we've been seeing ever since right after Tengan's death has been the real one
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>>146828573
We Chiakifags are usually quiet since we already accepted her fate.
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>>146828618
>11 despair
>13 Future
>11 + 13 = 24
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>>146828618
Despair 12 is just a commentary with the VAs.
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>>146828614

>aoi is the attacker who killed seiko and ruruka
>took seiko's cure
>aoi obviously doesn't attack DR1 survivors
>gives antidote after reading the bracelet
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>>146828621
Other than on to of their waifu we are safe as the Mikanfags and Junkofags take the piss at eachother
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>>146828220
Don't mind either way. I like her just the way she is
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>>146828636
Not much is needed here desu. Just write somewhere that it's the 5th time limit or something.
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>>146828664
>13 future
Source?
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Guys.

I cracked the code.

It's called Danganronpa 3

1 for every fake death
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>>146828664

>24

Ha thats the gay number
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>>146828666
What the fuck Satan, you aren't lying?
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>>146828636
>Juzo kills five people with one punch
Impressive.
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>>146828581
>game makes a point of saying there is gravel

Why else would they say that? I didn't think it was that hard. They even drive the point home really hard, like "HMM, I WONDER IF IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE IN THE ROOM THAT HASN'T BEEN RELEVANT YET".

Sure, most people probably guess the aquarium itself first, but gravel is the next logical assumption. And then you think about what could have possibly contained it, and the swimsuit is the only possibility. I don't see the issue there.
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>>146828624
Those legs.
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>>146828636
What the hell is happening here
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>>146827922
Look at Kyoko's face here, it's fucking perfect.
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>>146828614
>The attacker gave her this "Cure W" while she was asleep, which is equally stupid
Yeah, which is exactly why people are complaining about it. You don't think the bottle is insignificant, do you?
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>>146828220
Sinner Akane would basically be Mira from ZTD?
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>>146828756
>I didn't think it was that hard.

ESL faggots. That's the explanation.
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>>146828771
Everyone dong their forbidden action at the same time.
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>>146828626
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>>146828771
Everyone violating their NG codes. Except for Ryota, Kyoko and Ruruka because their codes weren't known when this was made.
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>>146828719
The Strawberry Seed only shows its face three times.
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>>146828787
How so?
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>>146828805
I'm ESL and nailed the gravel in the swimsuit. Eat shit.
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>>146828755
>Himself
>Asahina
>Fedora
>Bandai
Who I'm missing?
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>>146828439
>why her hand looks like it was grabbing something
You're reaching.
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>>146828872
Okya, I'm retarded, he's killing Ruruka too.
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>>146828871
>Eat shit.

Can you fuck off with the shitposting?
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>>146828845
Reminder that Bandai already predicted underwater building:

>So you are saying both deer and dolphins live in the same tree
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>>146828915
Why are you mad?
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Please give this couple your blessing.
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>>146828841
Ruruka's reaction obviously shows that whoever drew this knew her NG code
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>>146828439
> why her hand looks like it was grabbing something.
It's not though. When you see her hand for the second time, Naegi moved it so check her NG code.
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>>146828841
Ruruka's was known. Just look at her speech bubble.
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>>146828805
I'm ESL and I only missed MEAT ON THE BONE the first time, I didn't have any problem with the swimsuit.
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>>146828636
>Kills Munakata
>Kills bandai
>Kills fedora
>Kills Aoi
>Kills Miaya as she has to move
>Kills Ruruka
>Kills himself
That's impressive.
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Would you lick dead Kyoko's saliva?
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>>146828930
I object because she is mine
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>>146828696
If someone was working for despair why would they care about their friends? You have to remember that remnants of despair in DR's universe are complete psychopaths with no remorse and no feelings about anyone other than obsession with Junko
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>>146828290
I believe you slightly missread my post about the crop and/or I didn't express myself very well. But it doesn't really matter, really. I am glad you enjoyed it!
And about the jacket: alternating between magnetic and polygonal with ALT (I believe) makes it much easier. I've done the entire crop in about 10 minutes. But then again, I'm not sure of how fast is this.

>>146828614
Her death being faked (again) would be just terrible. After Fedora's sacrifice, I was sure she had the ultimate plot armor and thanks to that her death really surprised me. Going 180° on this would be nothing but dissapointing.
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>>146828940
Obvious that there are different levels of ESL. But Meat on the bone was a big case of ESLs missing the meaning of the word "on".
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>>146828933
Actually, we know that hand is being affected by poison, but why the leg doesn't?

Or does it?!
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>>146828945
I think Bandai moved because of the punch, so he killed Seiko too.
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>>146828621
Why does a non-lewd Mahiru pic make me so hard?
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>>146828945
And Naegi since he's running to go help
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>>146828980
What about Peko/Kuzuryuu then?
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Kirigiri is for Naegi.
Chiaki is for Hajime.
Hiyoko is for me and I'll protect her, back off.
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>>146828928
Can you imagine Bandai taking a big bite out of your forearm

Jesus christ there would be nothing left of it.
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>>146828970
Please don't objectify Sonia.
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>>146828928

>Strawberry Seed

Literally, what did he mean by this?
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Pretty obvious Ruruka killed herself right

That whole survival speech was a red herring
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>>146829007
send it over along with a lude
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>>146829015
Ibuki is for me then
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>>146828849
The framing. She's shocked as fuck with Naegi in the foreground, it's actually subtle foreshadowing.

>>146828845
It means only 3 people will die from violating their NG codes.
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>>146828882
>>146828933
Explain the bottle. You can't. She's alive, time to accept it.
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>>146828930
>Crack

No.

>>146829007
Mahiru makes me think of cuckoldry, thanks to that anon.
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>>146829047
I thought she's for black cocks.
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Ruruka is your daughter now

What do?
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>>146829048
>It means only 3 people will die from violating their NG codes.

That's already false. Koichi, Izayoi, Bandai, Kyoko.
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>Gundam says he heard the clock ringing because his hamsters have exceptional hearing
>Hajime somehow thinks its a bad argument
Anyone who owned animals knows how developped their senses are. Gundam's argument was totally valid
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>>146829007
>found a porn actress who looks like Mahiru
My dick is so happy.
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>>146829048
And it's all for nothing because it's just another fake out for shock value. Time to stop having in Kohacka.
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>>146829058
You can only call something a crack ship if it doesn't have a zero chance of happening, anon.
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>>146829048
>Bandai
>Izayoi
>Koichi

that means Kirigiri is not dieded?
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>>146829085
>rape
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>>146829085
Ask for candies since I need to gain weight anyway
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>>146828980

watch it be a twist where the attacker isn't evil, just like how they build the future foundation to be the bad guys and then it turns out they aren't.

but that's the real twist, FF really is evil.
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>>146829085
Protect her with my entire life, since that's what parents are for.
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>>146829101
They are just friends. FTE's are not canon.
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>>146829094
what is her name
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>>146829088
Remove Kyoko.
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>>146829010
What about them? Nothing from the brief flashes of them in their despair versions indicates they love each other.
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>>146828998
Look at Bandai's feet, they aren't affected by the poison.
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STANDING HERE

I REALIZE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IkwwngK2Ls
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>>146828989
I misunderstood, my bad! I didn't notice because of the mouth and eyes being the difference, I'm still not fully awake! 10 minutes for that is pretty fast, it took me around 15 to do this one. I should check out the magnetic and polygonal settings on my next crop as it might improve the speed and quality my friend!

>>146829003
>>146829008
So the madman killed 9 people with one punch in that work of art? That's somewhat impressive with just one punch. I wonder what the reactions would've been had that been in the actual anime.
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>>146829092

Hajime argument was that the soundproofing was greater than the hamster hearing
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>>146829057
Seiko's drug look green, like the reanimator we saw in Despair part.
Also the bottle is different. Why would Kirigiri change the bottle?
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>>146829153
Dis. She's probably drinking a cup of coffee and waiting for all of this to blow over as we speak
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>>146829149
Seira Matsuoka
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>>146829153
Having hope only leads to despair.
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>>146829168
He just says "Is that really your argument?"
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>>146829144
The same could be said about Gundam since she never outright declare her love for him.
So I'll go with the one guy who's still alive and going strong.
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>>146829057
>explain the bottle
The bottle is just a desperate hope for people who wish Kirigiri isn't dead.
It's hard to even tell if it's a pill bottle, after all they had a bunch of cans and snacks in that room.
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>>146829203
Despair only exists to foster hope.
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>>146829092
Since it's a class trial setting, all that matters is having a convincing argument, not a valid one.

If none of the other participants know animals well, that argument is useless.
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>>146827058
>Chiaki dies this week.
No, she wont. Cant wait for the shitstorm when that happens and Kyoko is confirmed alive too. Secondaries spouting shit and pretending they know the series are hilarious
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>>146829202
Anon she looks nothing like her
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>>146828636
>11 died
Goddamn Juzo.
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>>146829047
I thought she was for Ibukianon/depressionanon
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>>146829220
>>146829101
I think she's talking about Chiaki here
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>>146829140
Good lad
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>>146829214

Disregard that, i forgot about it.
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>>146829318
>implying she doesn't want both Hajime and Chiaki.
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>>146829271
Because she is 3D
>>
>Establish that no one expects a DR1 cast member to be killed
>Introduce 12 new characters
>End an early episode on a cliffhanger: Aoi is dead
>No, just kidding - It was only a prank
>Systematically kill off the newly introduced characters, typically after they've had some backstory given
>Have the only bit of relevance in 3 from UDG, Monaka, fuck off to space to be a NEET
>But she's not leaving without doing anything, she reveals a DR1 cast member is going to die
>spend the next few episodes building up to this moment
>Have a new character conveniently sacrifice themselves for Kirigiri, meaning she can't be the one killed
>Shock, it is Kirigiri who dies
>Just kidding, all of Monaka's main contributions and Kirigiri's NG code and all the foreshadowing done beforehand and all the hints thrown in there was just to setup another fakeout like what was done before
>None of the DR1 cast die

I can't believe this is actually what has happened. Who in their right mind seriously thinks that making people expect one thing, then hint at something else, only to reverse that something else leaving us back at the first expectation is good or even entertaining? 3 is absolutely shit.
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>>146829129
>FF really is evil.
Yeah no shit. AE hints that the Future Foundation can be just as bad as Ultimate Despair, and when you read Killer Killer and watch DR3, you can see several corrupt, irrational, and borderline immoral members of the future foundation

>Ruruka
>Killer Killer
>Munakata

And Miaya Gekkohara shows just how easily it is for despair to infiltrate FF.
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>>146829345
NO ANON-SAN SHE HAS NO FRECKLES
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Why the fuck does the ultimate imposter have two heights in two different regions? What the hell is the point?
http://danganronpa.wikia.com/wiki/Ultimate_Imposter
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>>146829268
I mean, even if Chiaki is actually alive, they're gonna have to pretend she's dead for awhile

Maybe LITERALLY kill her off but then show Tengan fapping over her corpse or something, idk
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Kirigiri is still alive.
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>>146829376
Togami is dead as fuck, man.
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>>146827834
Honestly I suspect it would require what happened to the Remnants of Despair but to the extreme degree. A almost total mind wipe. That's if she went nuts because of trama and not just pure boredom.
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>>146829237
It's the exact same bottle, label colours and all, as a bottle labelled "CURE". It really doesn't get much more obvious, I'm worried that you haven't been able to catch on to this. Try again.
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>>146829424
In our heart.
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If Kyoko is pretending to be dead, how would she fake her NG code?
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>>146829237
You can't denied that they don't add anything like that if it doesn't has any meaning.
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>>146829444
>CURE
You're confusing the cure for Ruruka's candy. It's labelled as 'CURE W'.
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>>146829400
Isn't the wiki currently shitting itself over Juzo being gay/straight?
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How many bricks will be shat if Munakata turns out to be Hopeman?
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>>146829444
>as a bottle labelled "CURE"
And the bottle labelled "CURE" looks nothing like this one >>146829194
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>>146829461
There's a trick with the time limits.
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>>146829469
Yeah, "cure". I wonder what that means. Certainly not a "cure" for poison or anything. Holy shit, you dumb fucker.
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>>146829468
Sometimes they do though.
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>>146829518
>"cure" for poison
No such thing. That's called an antidote. If it was a "cure" for poison, it would be called Antidote W.

Cure is for diseases.
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>>146829518
How do you cure a poison that takes effect immediately from an extremely small dosage?
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How can anyone believe Kiri is dead? I thought they were just memeing while they could, but people actually think he's killed her off? WEW.

They wouldn't put the bottle there if it was insignificant. She's alive, it's confirmed.
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>>146829342
Entirely possible.
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>>146829505
So, what?

The person who made the game and bracelets is somehow going to be tricked about which time limit triggers her NG code?

Do you know how retarded that sounds?
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>>146829424
No Anon she's dead

"Indubitably"
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>>146829548
>>146829554
>expecting logic in danganronpa
You do realise this is why people are mad over it, don't you? It's an asspull for the sake of pulling a "SHOCK VALUE" twist that was also riding on at least 3 episodes worth of hints and foreshadowing. It's fucking awful.
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>>146827078
>Ibuki nowhere to be seen during last week's episode
Must feel pretty weird for her character's fans, it looks like she might actually be relevant for a scene or two soon

>>146829487
He basically is an angrier katana-waving Nagito I suppose, even made a similar speech about "true hope being born from true despair" a while back
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>>146829481
I really don't pay attention to it, I just saw the beta danganronpa 2 image and wanted to see if Twogami has the same design since chiaki has slightly longer hair and I noticed he had two different heights

I really hope not though who cares the sexuality of the characteres
Juzo is very obviously straight or bi, and all we know right now is straight.
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>>146827058
>fedora man died for nothing
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>>146829564
Yeah, just like it was "confirmed" that Fedora was the mastermind because he was hiding his wrist?

Fuck off, denialfag.
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>>146829342
What are you saying?

That she wants to be able to taste Chiaki while she's sucking Hajime's dick?
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>tfw just now getting on the Danganronpa train
>have to avoid these threads like the plague

All the fun will be over by the time I've gotten caught up.
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Why are Kirigirifucks so triggered? She isnt coming back in the anime, face it. But she is still alive outside the anime

>Chisa slaps Junko
>Junko's despair is fixed
>They all instead make a hope anime with a happy end to counter the Killing Game video
>They have a special screening for Chisa by herself
>Everyone lives happily ever after as friends
>Except Natsumi
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>>146829461
She didn't fake it, she's taking advantage of it.
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>>146829653
You can binge-play the games and finish both of them in like a week.
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>>146827252
But Ibuki isn't a lesbian.
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>>146829638
Explain the bottle Kohacka apologist. You can't.
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>>146829487
>How many bricks will be shat if Munakata turns out to be Hopeman?

Japs actually think he's Chiaki
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I'm just shocked at how many people already managed to convince themselves that Kirigiri didn't really die and are already pre-emptively mad at a Kodaka "twist" based on such little clues as a bottle on the floor.

It's kind of... dumb.
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>>146829687
but she wanted to taste Mikan
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>>146829687
She's bisexual at least.
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>>146829716
It just makes their tears more delicious.
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>>146829716
Why would the bottle be there and animated if it was just a random bottle? I think you're the dumb one here. It's not like Kodaka is a clever writer either.
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>>146829706
i considered something similiar, but I was also high off my ass on Benzedrex Inhalers
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>>146829461
She didn't. She took Cure W, survived, and just hasn't woken up yet.

One thing that people don't understand is that antidotes to poisons don't prevent the poison from wrecking havoc on your body. They just keep you alive and rapidly break it down to other, less toxic (or inert) compounds. You still suffer partial toxicity, and you certainly aren't going to be walking around smiling.

For instance, if you took a cyanide pill alongside an antidote, you're still going to be down for the count. You'll survive, though.

In this case, Kyoko will probably have a permanently defunct left eye and some bacon-esque scarring on the left side of her body, but nothing compared to Kizakura or Bandai.

This was foreshadowed as well. The reason why Seiko's generic panacea didn't work on Bandai is because the poison is extremely fast working and he was already dead. However, Kyoko took it BEFORE she was poisoned, so she survived, but only barely.

Also, Seiko has been shown to have this generic antidote from the very beginning (heck, it's even in the Zetsubou-hen episode with Hopeman blowing up the gym), it's not even an asspull in the slightest. Kyoko had no way of knowing if it would work, or to what extent it would, and she'll probably continue to fake her death so she can investigate without being stalked. Naegi will still have to put the pieces together from the notebook, but Kirigiri will bust in with a crucial piece of information at the eleventh hour.

Juzo is obviously still alive and will get a single punch off on Munakata before he dies. Ruruka is deader than dead.
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>>146829716
It's all an anime, man. Like there is literally no reason for the blood to be red in Future. Plus the font shown in Despair arc on Ryota's anime. Plus Chisa at the start. It is blatantly obvious that Mirai is an anime inside an anime.
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>>146829678
How do you take advantage of being dead?

I mean, I know Kyoko is well versed when it comes to taking advantage of the dead but I think this is beyond even her.
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>>146827958
why do i think there is actually no killer between those guys?
Probably the whole despair guys are killing them in their sleep , and make the hope guys think they are being played by their comarades.
Somehow making them kill each other.

knowing the ones that made the story , probably the end will be some bullshit in kojima and the "nanomachines son!" kinda level
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>>146829730
She also wanted to fuck Twogami.

She isn't a lesbian either way.
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>>146829696
See >>146828614 as to why your "bottle" argument falls apart.
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i really hope nagito is the mastermind
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>>146828991
I'm not even ESL and I fucked that up because I misread "on" as "in". It was a new mechanic DR1 didn't have and it caught me by surprise so I was trying to read fast before the time limit ran out.
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>>146829651
Why's the surprise tone? She literally want to eat both Hajime and Chiaki at one point.
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>>146829706
> Japs actually think he's Chiaki

I want whatever they're on.

>>146829716
> Kyoko tried to pre-emptively dose herself Cure W.
> She still died like a bitch.

Watch it happen. The tears will be delicious. ;_; pls no.
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>>146829758
Do you actually think this is good writing?
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Its pretty amazing how good both dangan anime have been. The first dangan anime was dogshit, and the despair arc started off bad.

I'm impressed that Kodaka was able to write both shows, while writing V3 and somehow have them both be solid 9/10s

I really did come into this expecting me to either drop or not really care for either series, but I am very pleasantly surprised

Hope really does win
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>>146829771
Assuming she's alive, now that the NG code was activated, she's out of the game so she's not bound to the rules. So if there's another sleep time, she's free of that for example.
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>>146829716
Kodaka is absolutely ball less. He doesn't assume any death since DR1.
Even fucking Chiakin which was an AI in dr2 was "existing all along guys :^)" in dr3. We will probably have some bullshit plot twist about her
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>>146829777
Twogami is gender neutral believe it or not like Hanji from SnK
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>>146829784
See: >>146829758
Bottle wouldn't be there if it was insignificant. Now try again, dumbass.
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>>146829706
>Japs actually think he's Chiaki

We are reaching Umineko levels of baseless speculation
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>>146829820
Almost nothing in either arcs so far has been good writing.

It's not like Kirigiri living would be some new low as far as dumb twists go.
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>>146829716
I think you're misinterpreting what people are getting asspained about. If Kyoko dies, people will be mad that Kodaka killed her off for the sake of giving Makoto a dumb character pick-me-up + Koichi's sacrifice being muddied. If she survives due to Cure W or whatever the fuck, people will be mad for Kodaka repeating the same fake-out twice and resorting to cheap shock factor.

As far as I can tell, people are annoyed that Kodaka's gone down this route at all to begin with, if that makes sense.
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>>146829820
It isn't so that consistent with DR3's writing.
Honestly that's much better than mind control anime.
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>>146829876
>people are annoyed that Kodaka's gone down this route at all to begin with, if that makes sense

But she was always going to die and Makoto's reaction to her death was always going to be a strengthening of his resolve.

It sounds like waifufags just want her to be alive even if the story suffers for it.
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>>146829770
I mean, it just being an anime is a twist with tons of evidence and foreshadowing supporting it.

Kirigiri not being dead just seems like a crack theory.
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>>146828636
Where are Gozu and Chisa?
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>>146829380
>Ruruka
>borderline
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>>146829923
The story has already suffered no matter what happens to her. The damage is done.
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>>146829129
I'd buy it. Aoi/the 13th branch head would be responsible and saved Kyoko because she knows her character.
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>>146829747
>that pic
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>>146829923
>It sounds like waifufags just want her to be alive even if the story suffers for it.

It's the opposite, people want her to stay dead because they believe that having a survivor from the original cast die by itself would make the writing better when it wouldn't. It would just be a cheap and pointless death for shock value.
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>>146829963
Their codes were unknown when this was made.
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>>146829923
Why does Makoto need a strengthening of resolve at all? He's been through Junko's killing game and got a bunch of his comrades out of it, helped save and salvage the Remnants of Despair, and has been helping civilians out working under Branch 14. There's absolutely no reason for him to be the exact same character he was back in DR1 after all this time, and also no reason for Kyoko (or other characters close to him) die solely to "strengthen his resolve". I don't think waifufaggotry has much to do with it (hell there are plenty of people who want her dead solely to dispel the sense of plot armor that the DR1 cast has, no one seems to be engaged with Makoto's role in this at all)
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>>146829747
Why Hajime isn't a SHSL Meme yet?
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>>146829833
None of 3 has been 9/10. I'm sorry, Despair has been pretty good, but Future has been absolute garbage.
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>>146829876
Koichi's sacrifice was not in vain. Even if she did die later.

It's like the game NieR. Many characters in that sacrifice themselves just to buy time for others who die shortly after. It might seem pointless, but it's very meaningful.
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>>146829923
>It sounds like waifufags just want her to be alive even if the story suffers for it.
LAUGHING
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>>146829747
Why is Hajime so based?
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>>146830053
u wot
He already is
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>>146830053
I'm pretty sure he is
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>>146830050
He's going to toughen up the way Munakata tells him to. As in, "your pretty words won't save people and defeat despair". Unless Kohacka.
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>>146829684
Already started on Saturday. I'm pretty sure I'm getting close to the end of the first one.
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>>146830058
You literally have it backwards.

Brainwash anime has been the worst twist so far, too much focus on FF members, Junko has been disappointing, too little of class 77

The only good parts so far have been Izuru and Komaeda (disregarding the stupid retcon of them meeting.)
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>>146829866
>>146829905
It wouldn't be the worst, but it would basically mean the entirely of 3 is "introduce new characters, kill them all off while pretending to kill off a DR1 character" - which is exactly what most thought it would be beforehand. Danganronpa has never been that predictable. That would set 3 as a low for the series as a whole.
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SHES DEAD DEAL WITH IT
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For the sake of argument, let us assume that Kirigiri did indeed fake her death, and her friends leave her in the room (potentially with her journal).

What would she be wanting to do alone? What COULD she do alone?
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>>146830050
>Why does Makoto need a strengthening of resolve at all?

Because that's the only character fluctuation he has.

And Kyoko got her first death flag when DR3 was revealed to be an anime.

Either her or Makoto had to die and since the conflict was once again centered on Despair vs. Hope, it couldn't have been Makoto.

You should have seen this coming and some of us did but you were too busy being smug while calling us idiots to see common sense.
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>>146830126
Hey that's my edit. I was pretty proud of this one.
I should make more bully-kun edit. It's fun
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>>146830163
Provide evidence of death, sir. Conclusive evidence.
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>>146830050
>Why does Makoto need a strengthening of resolve at all?
Did you not watch Future 9? He clearly was buttflustered at what Munakata was saying, he thinks his Hope isn't actually useful in the "real world"
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>>146830023
I doubt anyone could pin the Great Gozu for a three count anyway, besides hotwheels, and maybe not even then.
This show's greatest crime was not allowing a showdown between the SHSL Wrestler and the SHSL Boxer
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>>146830185
>you were too busy being smug while calling us idiots
And holy fuck does it feel good. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated, kouhai.
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>>146829850
hanji isn't gender neutral? Women in Japan are seen as inferior and pronouns are not used in the japanese sentence structure.

Hanji being "gender neutral" is a play off having a high ranking female soldier that outranks most of the men and is seen as an EQUAL instead of a girl. Also the mangaka is a fucking troll. Stop bringing tumblr into this.

Twogami being listed as gender neutral is that we don't know twogami's biological sex and it's not important to their character.
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>unnatural number of coincidences
What makes Chisa being an ultimate housekeeper is because she's like the maid in traditional murder mysteries.

Not only she's great at what she does, she also is always present for decisive situations.
Her talent works like Celes, Naegi and Komaeda's.
It's like they bend fate or fate guide them.

Chisa's death in Mirai part will probably have a bigger meaning.
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how many times have they been knocked asleep?
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>>146830126
Holy shit, this is gold.
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>>146829923
>>146830007
The problem is that all of the characters who have died are newly introduced with no devleopment while DR1 cast have their plot armour. Kohacka has tried to make us believe that no such plot armour exist, but pulling 2 and arguably 3 fake outs only reinforces the plot armour idea. It's like he's gone out of his way and wasted a load of setup, foreshadowing and hints to make us think that DR1 cast has no plot armour, only to give them plot armour anyway. That's pretty bad, even by his low standards.
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>>146830058
How has future been garbage?
Its entertaining, well animated, has some interesting ideas (a lower level base being foreshadowed in the opening, the NG codes, etc) and the characters it introduced are both interesting and lovable besides ruruka and I like how the two series play off of eachother

I agree with the other anon that despair has no question been the weaker side. It should of been more of a focus on the class and Junko. We really don't need to know whats happening with the Izuru project, what we want to know is how it affects the class.

I think Junko has been ok, I gotta say I'm disappointed the tradegy didn't cause instant revolt across the world like it was originally implied
Hopefullyin the next few episodes they explore how Junko fucks up the DR2 cast
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>>146830167
She can investigate alone, she's out of the killing game so she can be a wild card and Mitarai won't follow her anymore.

Or maybe she wasn't planning on fake her death and the antidote didn't work well or at all.
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>>146830200
I think the ones made using the anime and game are better.
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These Kyokofags desperately trying to come up with ways she could live annoy me so much.

It's like Lelouch in Code Geass.

He's dead too, his ghost even shows up to have some fun with his friends but morons have to keep believing he could be alive.
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>>146830185
>You should have seen this coming and some of us did but you were too busy being smug while calling us idiots to see common sense.
Go look at the chain of replies again. You're not even talking about the same thing I am here, and I'm not calling anyone idiots either. I'm saying that people aren't trying to "delude themselves into Kyoko still being alive" like someone else said, people are annoyed at the manner in which Kodaka is doing this.
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Alright there's one thing about this stupid Seiko saving Kirigiri theory to me.

If Seiko had a cure for the NG code poison, why didn't she use it when she was fighting Izayoi and Ruruka? She could have just injected some of that shit instead of going hulk and smashing all the lights. She couldn't have made it after words since she dies immediately after that scene.

Until someone can explain this to me I refuse to believe this theory.
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> When Kirigiri said 'no matter what happens, don't give up on hope' she was talking to the viewer.

DON'T GIVE UP ON HER GUYS! KIRI DEFENSE FORCE UNITE! WE MUST PROTECT HER SMILE!
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>>146830143
All Future has been is setup, killing new characters and fake outs. Literally, that's it. It doesn't even need to exist so little has actually happened.
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>>146830253
4 times.
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>>146827939
I'm no Juzoboy, but stay strong, friend.
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>>146830288
I don't hate Kyouko but I'd really hate it if she survived.
It's the second time Kodaka will fake a death.
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>>146830263
>maybe she wasn't planning on fake her death
Her other options are limited, assuming they even exist. If this was her only gamble, then it was the ultimate one.

>>146830277
>desperately
I believe the word you're looking for is "joyfully." Provide more sodium chloride, it is important to one's diet.
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>>146830200
There can never be too much good bully-kun, go for it anon!
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>yfw you're the attacker
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>>146830258
>2 or 3 fakeouts
What are they? I only know of Aoi's.
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>>146830126
Wrong filename.
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>>146830050
Both MCs in DR3 are incredibly easily led on by others, for some reason. Maybe they were like that in the games too but it feels way more prominent here, how they latch on to things other people say really quickly and let it get under their skin really easily.
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>>146830308
I'm a fucking tard, it even says on kyoko's ng code, can't remember anything, thanks though.
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>>146830260
Future has had no substance whatsoever. At least compared to 1 and 2, Future is by far the worst entry. Probably worse than UDG.
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>>146830222
Chisa probably could. Or Seiko on steroids.
Or Ruruka just fed him mindhakku candy and asked him to let her pin him to the floor.
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>>146830263
>She can investigate alone
Why would she? She can't do any better than she was before she died.

Plus she'd be putting her friends at risk by separating from then when Munakata and Juzo clearly want to kill them.
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How do you guys feel about cold bacon?
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>>146830362
1) Aoi
2) The dream sequence (this is the arguable one)
3) Kyouko dying of poison
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>>146830424
Best served cold.
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>>146830284
>She only had one dose and wanted to save it from other people
>She used it on herself but she still was cautious of triggering her NG Code since she wasn't sure if it was going to work.

I'm sure there can be other reasons.
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>>146830380
It's better than simply being a constant letdown and waste of potential.

Despair has just been giving explicit details on things we already knew happened, except makes it undeniably worse by doing so.

The only unknown factor about the tragedy was what happened to class 77, and it's about to be all chalked up to a brainwashing video. Despair is by far the worse entry.
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>>146830284
>If Seiko had a cure for the NG code poison, why didn't she use it when she was fighting Izayoi and Ruruka?
Exactly. Why would she freak out over Ruruka discovering her NG code if she had a magic antidote? She clearly didn't.
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>>146830149
>That would set 3 as a low for the series as a whole.
Are you joking ? DR3 is already a low. I know a good ending can redeem an anime but I seriously think DR3 is utterly disappointing.
>>146830238
In the manga hanji was never specified to be either male or female. Instead of just gender neutral think of it of androgynous. She was supposed to be some weird titansexual freak anyway.
For Twogami it being unspecified added to his character. He is the SHSL impersonator, despite being fat. It being able to pass off both male and female is part of the act. It's not "gender neutral" but just like he has no name, he can pass off as both.
The only thing that bother me with this character in despair is that in DR2, he was acting as Togami while deep down he was a timid and and shy person (as seen in that scene in chap06 where you have a flashback with everyone alive) but in DR3 it seems to be the opposite.
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>>146830416
>Why would she?
She suspects Mitarai and you know he won't leave her alone.
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>>146830448
> The antidote works.
> ...But she saved it for Naegi and co. for the final showdown.

Or:

> She tried the antidote.
> It didn't work and she still died, just a less gruesome death.

Watch it happen.
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When you think about it, Future Arc is pretty insignificant to the overall Danganronpa plot. Unless they pull some big twist at the end to actually make these killings meaningful.
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>>146830260
>well animated
Well about that
>the characters it introduced are both interesting and lovable
It would if not for them to literally die without contributing anything and without developing at all.
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>>146830448
But her not using it still doesn't make sense because if she was willing to take the chance on her NG code killing her, why was she so averse to eating Ruruka's candy when doing so would have gotten her Ruruka's forgiveness?

She clearly doesn't want to die.
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>>146830380
>Future has had no substance whatsoever. At least compared to 1 and 2,
Well yeah dude. You're comparing a 12 episode anime to 20 hour visual novels with hours of optional side content.
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>>146830342
I have some in my OC folder but no reason to post them.
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>>146830219
Why is Makoto even entertaining any of the shit Munakatana is saying though? Look at it from Makoto's point-of-view - thanks the efforts of him & the other DR1 survivors Junko killed herself, which led to massive amounts of her followers killing herself, and the strength of her remnants dwindling with each month. Society is slowly starting to pull itself back together. As shifty as his actions were in DR2, he now knows that he can "undo" people falling to despair too.

After achieving all that, why on earth would he get buttflustered so easily?
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>>146830496
Isn't DRv3 supposed to be a direct sequel to this anime? Maybe the game will be about sorting out the mess left by FF.
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>>146827320
He's Nagito's son from the future?
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>>146830440
>2) The dream sequence (this is the arguable one)
Yeah, I wouldn't argue that to be a fakeout. It's just a dream sequence.
>3) Kyouko dying of poison
Until this is proven to be a fakeout we shouldn't just go around definitively calling it one.
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>>146830455
>waste of potential
But that's exactly what Future is. All we've had is killing off new characters en masse, Kohacka trying to make us think DR1 don't have plot armour only to then go and prove that they do, twice, and nothing else of note. It's fun enough waiting a eek for next episode, but how shit would this be to rewatch, knowing that most of the foreshadowing and setup is just another fake out?
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>>146830477
Thank you. I hate when people use "gender neutral" as if it has any implication towards the character or how they act/what they do.

I like seeing impersonator as ??? because it does add to the whole ABLE TO IMPERSONATE ANYONE, and for that I adore him. You're absolutely right about his timid/shy character, but you have to remember this is "mind wipe" Impersonator in SDR2, so he doesnt have the events of DR3 in his mind. Maybe he was able to tough up a little after befriending Mitarai?
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>>146830469
Are you retarded? Antidotes aren't cure-alls. If Ruruka stepped on her shadow, suddenly Seiko would be super vulnerable for a period and she'd easily succumb to a finishing blow. Antidotes rapidly change toxins into less toxic or inert substances. It doesn't prevent the toxins from being there in the first place, and the less toxic (but still toxic) stuff that it breaks down into will still deal damage.

Also she had no fucking way of knowing if it would work in the first place since it's a generic pancaea. Are you a retard?
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>>146830296

Better than muh MINDHACC anime
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>>146830533
Kodaka said this can only work as an anime. He picked the medium, so it's fair to directly compare 3 with 2 and 1.
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>>146830519
Uhhh both animes have been well animated with basically no quality

Thats what despair is for
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>>146830520
Because she worries a lot about other people. Even when she was a crazy berserk girl, she was worried about Asahina'a little injury.

I'm not saying this is an absolute truth or anything I'm just theorizing with what I have.
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>>146830558
Nope. DRv3 is the start of a new story.
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>>146830380

>Comparing 12 episode anime with 30 hour VN

Are you retarded?
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>>146830571
The bottle being there as good as proves that it's a fakeout dude. Worst thing is that even if she doesn't return immediately, she could still return later on, so it's constantly lingering. Kohacka's constant reliance on misdirection and fake outs have ruined this series as a weekly watch.
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>Kirifags complaining their waifu is dead.
Y'all niggers should be complaining about how anticlimactic her death was instead.
I played DR1 on the fucking PSP, solved crimes with this bitch while spending precious free time with her since there was no School Mode, watched this ice queen mellow out and survive the death game with her "Tell them, Naegi" bullshit, only for her to die offscreen of poison while unconscious?
This is the type of death you'd expect one of the new cast to succumb to, not a series mainstay with her own LN series.
She deserved a more meaningful death is what I'm saying.
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>>146830603
>Also she had no fucking way of knowing if it would work in the first place since it's a generic pancaea. Are you a retard?
By that same logic, Kirigiri would have no way of knowing it would work, and it likely wouldn't work.
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>>146830649
But the V stands for "victory". Wouldn't it make more sense for it to be the ending of the story, where despair is finally ended?
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>>146830663
See >>146830619
Length =/= Quality.
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>>146830663
The writers compared them when they named the anime "Danganronpa 3".
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>>146830619
>Kodaka said this can only work as an anime.
Yeah, well Kodaka is fucking retarded idiot who loves to go for meta-fiction twists (because DR3 will turn out to just be an anime).
This would have been fine as a VN, or maybe even a survival game.
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I honestly wish Kirigiri were dead. It would have been a good death. But I really can't see it happening.

In terms of the actual "text":
>Kirigiri knows she is going to die, but doesn't share literally anything about Yukizome or Great Gozu, or anything she's discerned about the attacker. What she's done up until the last Future Arc episode has been entirely meaningless apparently.
>In this very episode, she gives Mitarai a number of meaningful looks. When his opinion on Naegi takes a 180, and when he stares at his phone muttering about the hope of the world. She clearly thinks something is up, but allows herself to pass without saying anything to anyone about it? She's secretive, but knowingly taking her detective work to the grave is something well beyond that.
>Compounding these points is her notebook (that she has been using extensively throughout), which she seems to have intentionally hidden. The anime goes so far as to give us a close-up of this for numerous seconds, for emphasis.
>Of course, there's the bottle. It's both conspicuous and subtle in the right measures to assume it has meaning, as many anons have stated before me.

There's some unclear evidence about the condition of her body, so I wont' get into that.

In terms of "metatext", her immediate death after Kizakura makes little sense, but more importantly there's the entire Kimura Seiko thing. The entire "Cure W" shot, prior to this, felt pretty oddly emphatic at the time but her death immediately afterward made it very easy to forget. With hindsight, I find it hard to see it as anything short of foreshadowing, however. This is, of course, keeping her speech about "being unable to save anyone" in mind. It'll be oh so heartwarming and triumphant when it turns out that she did manage to.

It seems a plain as day setup for Kirigiri to return at the 11th hour to provide that extra boost of HOPE that they will direly need, and unveil the final evidence to pin down the nature of the attacker. Lame.
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>>146830685
>Kirifags complaining their waifu is dead
No one is doing that, people are complaining because she isn't dead.
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>>146830701
Yeah, but that was what was stated. 3 is the end of the current story, v3 is the start of a new story.
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>>146829850
Twogami was posing as a boy and everyone thought he is.

Besides, he's probably a guy anyway. When he let his real personality show itself in front of everyone grabbing komaeda, he had his masculine voice.
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>>146830704

With more lenght you can develop things better and take things more slowly

>>146830705

That isn't what opens the door for comparision, retard

They're in different mediums
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>>146829716
I'm shocked that people like you are so dumb that they actually thought Kodaka was going to kill off the most popular female character in the entire series. I didn't buy Kirigiri's death at all and I'm shocked that so many people are too dumb to realise that Danganronpa's writing IS that bad.
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The fact that that they spent all that time on the Class 76 Trio only to kill all of them off before any of them achieve much is bothering me more than Kyoko dying (which we all sort of anticipated happening eventually anyway, right?) to be honest. Seiko's power pills and shit are plot relevant but they didn't even need an entire character for that, could've just been written off as "Future Foundation tech" like the Hacking Megaphone and the Revengeance sword and so on.
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>>146830583
In my opinion japan has a far healthier approach to sexually deviant characters but that's not really the subject.
The real problem with impersonator is that he was supposed to be a student from class 77th and being a joke acting as twogami.
But in DR3 Mitarai was added. he was a real student that was supposed to attend HPA but was replaced by an Impersonator that already emulates Togami for some time beforehand.
Mitarai obviously wasn't thought of when DR2 was written (same with Chisa and IRL chiaki) so I guess Kodaka just tried to assemble to pieces the best he could.

Despair arc was a mistake in my opinion. He tries to tie it too much to the future arc. It's a real shame. It should have been "Watch as how class 77 fell into despair and acted as UD". A nice fan service anime with heartful moments and despair inducing events for more backstory.
Instead we got "watch how Junko and Mitarai plotted DR3 against the latter's will, and how Chisa fell into despair with her class as well"
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You know at this point part of me wants the it was just a anime ending to be true as not only has it had enough foreshadowing for it to not just be a cop out but the new characters deserve more development
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>>146830864

If what ended up saving Kirigiri was just a nameless random plot device the anime would feel less complex. By connecting the fact that she ended up being saved with Seiko's regret, you can make a very heartwarming character arc
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>>146830685
>expecting to die on your own terms
she had her moment with Makato, used up the precious time she had left well
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>>146830844
>That isn't what opens the door for comparision

You can say that if you want to. It doesn't mean anything though.
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>>146830766
I mostly agree with you, but it's also possible that she left the notebook with all of her detective work in it for Naegi. And didn't Munakata take the Cure W?
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>>146827078
Why would Mahiru cosplay as Ibuki?
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>>146829237
>It's hard to even tell if it's a pill bottle, after all they had a bunch of cans and snacks in that room.
That's easy to prove wrong. Nothing they had on the floor resembles the bottle.
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>>146830771

You do know you guys here are a minority, right?
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r8 my taste m8s
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>>146830704
I don't see how making Future Arc longer would improve it, but Despair Arc definitely suffers from an inability to slow down.
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>>146830980

What you are doing is as stupid as comparing a single movie with a TV series, you're being retarded
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>>146831020
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>>146827161
>wanting to marry "reformed" girl-Hitler
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>>146830960
She could have been saved by a magic Bandai banana and make him heartwarming instead.
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>Tengan said he had other projects in the works besides Kamukura.
>he personally recruited Mitarai into the FF.
>Mitarai has yet to do anything meaningful in Future.
>Tengan's message of entrusting the hope of the world isn't necessarily directed towards Naegi.
Animanlet is a part of his other projects.
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>>146831002
because shes an independent woman
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>>146830891
>same with Chisa and IRL chiaki
>IRL Chiaki
No, she existed. Nagito had the student profiles and didn't guess she was the traitor, so either the profile was an excellent fake (and the smartest kid on the island probably would have noticed) or real.

>Mitarai
Yeah, but Mitarai's existence makes sense because I doubt the Ultimate Impostor would impersonate someone from literally the class below him (making it obvious what he is), so he'd have had a different disguise in HPA.

>A nice fan service anime with heartful moments
Yuck
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>>146829747
god damn it now I'm struggling to contain laughter in my lecture hall because of that pic
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>>146831070
>girl-Hitler

Please, anon. You're making me like her even more.
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>>146831020

Bait/10

>>146831029

Future arc is as fine as it is, the nature of this killing game doesn't allows for shit like FTE, until now I think the pacing has been okay

24 episodes of the despair arc seem to be overkill too desu
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>>146831020
>that list of top girls
Kill yourself.
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>>146831020
>getaloadofthisguycam.png
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>>146831070
>Not wanting to marry girl-Hitler
Found the kike
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>>146830960
All that screentime devoted to those characters for the sake of a single cliffhanger fake-out sounds sort of terrible to me, to be honest.

Not to mention that her regret also enabled Munakata's wild ride around the tower.
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>>146830960
>By connecting the fact that she ended up being saved with Seiko's regret, you can make a very heartwarming character arc
inb4 Despair arc shows Kirigiri and Seiko meeting at some point
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>>146831074

Sure, but Bandai was just an example for how the NG code works, a strange character with strange quotes , he didn't had his character background and conflict as explored as Seiko did
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>>146831103
>Mitarai
as much as I would love to think that Impersonator switch someone from the class below him, we can only guess that he had some sort of... recon or hints that togami was to be a future student: I doubt that would have been knowledge to others who the scouters were looking at. How did he know impersonating Togami would be an issue in the future?
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>>146831046
Keep saying "retard" some more and you might convince someone that you actually have a point. I can compare story 1 and story 2 to story 3 however I want. If the medium is what makes it bad, it's still bad.
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>>146827341
You're pretty good. You got some clunkers, but nothing offensive.
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>>146830685
Why do you think people have been arguing about her being really death?
Retards fucking spam "muh delusional kyokofag", but her death is legitimately shady, and we we'll know more next episode.
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>>146831157

Is that alex from cow chop?
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Chiaki being a real student was hinted at by her "surviving" her execution

Hajime even basically says "hey, who the fuck are you really?" to which she doesn't answer.
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>>146831235
Yes.
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>>146831209
Maybe someone in the school told him?
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>>146831083
>Mitarai has yet to do anything meaningful in Future.
It is on-going.
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Reminder that the night time deaths are woken up, shown the Despair video/anime, and then as they are trying to commit suicide, the killer kills them with a single stab to the heart:
> Chisa climbs to the chandelier, either to try and escape back to the floor above or to jump off. Killer just stabs her through the floor, and starts to weaken the bolts for dramatic effect later. She doesn't struggle and just finally accepts death.
> Gozu tries to fight it by gouging his own eyes out. He tries to attack the killer, but due to being blinded gets tangled in the exposed wires. Defenceless, he is stabbed. Monaca isn't impressed because she saw Gozu resist the despair and continued trying to fight for Hope in the end.
> Seiko swallows the remaining pills and keeps trying to slam herself into the wall to make the bad thoughts stop. As she tires down inside the indent, she's easy to stab.
> Killer takes much longer to get to Ruruka, which gives her plenty of time to claw herself and attempt to kill herself with candy (as the last thought she has pre-Despair is her boyfriend dying due to eating candy). Her body is a fucking mess, but the killer finishes her off anyway.
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>>146831147
>24 episodes of the despair arc seem to be overkill too desu
Maybe not a full 24, but it needed more than 11. It's got a pretty big ensemble cast and very few of them are given attention after the first two episodes. With more episodes it could have gotten more in depth with the people involved in the murders of Natsumi and Sato and see how it affected them, it could have spent more time at the first killing game, and it could really examine how the 77th class falls into Despair, rather than glossing over Mikan with brainwashing video and likely doing the same with the others.
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>>146831174
>>146831140
Girl-Hitler did nothing wrong!
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>>146831242
How? I always saw it as AI Junko simply failing to delete every single trace of AI Chiaki from the system. A lot of things can be simplified if you have even a bare minimal knowledge of computer systems.
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>>146830864
I was pretty interested in what Ruruka was actually going to do further down the line, even if she was a cunt. Felt like a complete waste of a character right as she seemed to be on the cusp of actually having some sort of meaningful development (guess it's tradition to do that atleast once in every DR though)
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>>146831242
I see less of these things as "retcons" and more like... the author being able to find specific points in plots/writing where he can redact something or change it's "original" tone to something else.

IDK, like if you ever were forced to read "The Giver" in middle school, and were told the main character dies in the end and that's how the book was interpreted for years, only for the author to make quasi-sequels where that MC was still alive somehow.
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>>146831266
Killer Killer only kills killers.
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>>146829047
I like Ibuki.

Actually, DR2 >>>> DR1 in general. Although DR2 has both the worst girl (Mikan) and worst boy (Hopeshitter), and best girl (Hiyoko).
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>>146830960
I suppose it could be pulled off in a way that justifies all the time spent with the 76th class, but I really doubt it.
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>>146831003
If we are, it's because the majority are dumb, gullible retards who buy into anything Kohacka sells them.
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I don't understand all the hate people are leveling at MINDHACK ANIME, considering AI Junko's entire plot in DR2 was to literally upload herself into the bodies of the Despairs and spread herself until she took over the entire world.

She was literally trying to mindhack already. This is nothing new. I mean, I don't really like the implication that she used the anime on class 77 instead of more direct manipulation either, but it's not like this level of writing is anything new.
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>>146830686
Exactly. It was a gamble. Why the fuck wouldn't she try though?
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>>146831341
>and worst boy (Hopeshitter)
You take that back
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>>146831260
I'd imagine that spy/imposter work involves lots of sneaking around and finding information to whatever suits him best; if that weren't the case, having a character like him as RoD is pointless.

I think he found out about Togami through his own busy work(?) and realized there was no way he could fake a student that would undeniably attend class and was "younger" than him.
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>>146827449
100% likely, though Juzo is also 100% likely to die before the show is over, most likely in the next episode.
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>>146831195

It's good enough for a character arc in a 12 episode killing game that has to kill people, though, you can't develop or grt to know everyone. Not even in the game you could, outside of the school/island mode

> Not to mention that her regret also enabled Munakata's wild ride around the tower.

Yeah, but that isn't exactly saving anyone is it? If anything her drugs are being used by destruction

I really liked Seiko as a character, as a fan of her character it would be nice if she had such closure
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>>146831323
No, it's not really a straight up retcon. A retcon would be an actual contradiction (like Nagito and Izuru meeting each for the first time twice). New information that wasn't mentioned before isn't a retcon.
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>>146830685
For the record, Sherlock Holmes, the most famous fictional detective of them all, also had a story which ended with him throwing himself off a waterfall, killing both himself and Moriarty.

Except being the Worlds Greatest Detective, of course he had a plan.

There is no way Kirigiri isn't prepared, even if it's just a dying message in the notebook. Realistically, she was only vague in her Naegi pep talks because she has to reason to believe one of the other two is the Mastermind,
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>>146830686
Yeah, and she didn't know, that's why she was talking like that, to prepare them in case she dies.
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>>146831389
Go back to raping dead bodies and dreaming abou your illusional artificial """hope""", Komaeda.
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>>146831389
DROP THE GUN
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>>146827834
Lobotomy.
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>>146831416
If it's an addition to something already established in the story it's also a retcon. Not him, but just saying. It's just that the term retcon is usually used for contradictions where it also has the meaning that something additional that alters the character or gives them something new.
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>>146831377
It looks like they are living peacefully and not even trying to give each other despair, buildings all look really comfy

What is bad about Junkoland again? I'd live there.
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>>146831103
> Nagito had the student profiles and didn't guess she was the traitor,
Monokuma already said he messed with the profiles, which was at the time just for allowing Nagito's wild chapter 5 ride.
The thing is that there is nothing that prove that IRL chiaki didn't exist in the DR2 universe, but her whole character was being an AI(it was basically Alter ego 2 in that regard, with the same humanization of a program and sacrifice for real people theme). Nothing but "she could have existed" in this game and that's pretty hard to disprove actually.
The real problem is why wasn't real Chiaki mentioned, especially about Izuru and Hinata.

Retroactively you can make Chiaki exists in the canon, but before DR3 there was no theory whatsoever about Chiaki ever being real because we never had any hints about her.
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>>146831266
No, there's a pattern to everyone's death.

The bodies are placed lower each time someone dies. The attacker is also getting more violent.
If someone else is killed by the attacker they'll probably be disfigured or even dismembered and their body might lies underneath the floor, or even underwater.

And the next victim, if there's one, might be the last one. The way he places the bodies reminds me of a countdown.
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>>146831205

Seiko isn't in the school anymore so that probably won't happen

>>146831215

I'll keep at it as long as you're acting like a retard

You simply can't expect the amount of slow burn development the DR 1/DR 2 games had out of 1 cour anime like DR3
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>>146827528
Retard she's dead
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>>146831377
People were legitimately interested in seeing how the flaws of the characters from SDR2 could be exploited in order to make them fall into Despair and become edgy supervillain terrorists.

Instead the 77th class are just background characters who are likely going to have their fall to darkness handwaved by a brainwashing video.

It's like if the Star Wars prequels poorly handled the character of Darth Vader, or Metal Gear Solid V wasn't about Big Boss's fall from grace.
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>>146830891
>The real problem with impersonator is that he was supposed to be a student from class 77th
He is. In episode 1 you see an empty seat. Imposter is never there. He's acting as the animator.
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>>146831377
I wish the only used the anime on useless mobs to spread despair globally and personally turned to despair class 77th, since they are part of Ultimate Despair.
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>>146831389
>>146831456
Both off by 1
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>>146831463
Huh. It really seems like there should be different terms for those two things.
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>>146831416
To be fair, Nagito's brain looks like this.
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>>146831533
Then how was the DR1 anime able to be better than this trainwreck? Don't even bother responding because I already know you can't answer.
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>>146831598
Imho there should be a different term for both of those man. It doesn't make sense to have retcon be such a huge generalization when most use it for one specific part of the definition.
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>>146831209
>or hints that togami was to be a future studen
He's prettty much a spy and probably has a great information network. He knows Byakuya is one year younger then him and a great prospect for the future. Him getting accepted into HPA is a pretty good guess.
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>>146831370

> who buy into anything Kohacka sells them.

Don't we all? That's why we are here right? That's why even if you guys keep complaining you still keep watching the anime

But yeah, you guys are in the minority, both in the west and in Japan
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>>146831578
Fucking hell will it ever end
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>>146831333
Which means he's free to kill FF members who have killed but can't touch those who have never killed.

>>146831377
That wasn't her true end-goal, anon. She even says she was planning on luring Makoto-tachi to the program and trap them for all eternity.
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>>146831341
> Nagito is worst boy
Finally, somebody says it. He's an annoying fucker most of the time. But I don't get why anybody likes him at all after Case 2-4 when he shows that the smiley hope retard is just a facade he uses to hide the bitter, pompous douchebag he really is.

He's the Dangan equivalent of dumb frog posters. It's all fun and memes with a side of self loathing until a normalfag walks into the room and slaps Hope's ass.
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>>146831322
I sort of appreciated that Ruruka was this bitchy other party in the FF power conflict. Not every character has to be nice, in fiction characters are given worth by what they add to the story and not how "nice/likeable" they are, and Ruruka was an interesting other angle within the story.

It definitely feels like the Class 76 sub-plot was wasted, given how much screentime was devoted to them. If Kyoko does survive because of Seiko's drugs then I think that'd be even worse, because it means that all those characters existed for was to cement the DR1 survivors plot armor and little else.
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>>146831634
>DR1 anime
>better
what are you smoking
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>>146831617
Are the holes in his brain bigger?
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So what memories is Izuru going to have to remember this episode?


Juzo, Chiaki, and Natsumi?
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>>146828439
>People who keep claiming that Kirigiri is dead funnily are completely unable to explain why the bottle was shown and why her hand looks like it was grabbing something.
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>>146831551
>People were legitimately interested in seeing how the flaws of the characters from SDR2 could be exploited in order to make them fall into Despair and become edgy supervillain terrorists.
Given that case 2-6 goes out of its way to call them secondary characters repeatedly, it's a bit crazy that people thought, in a 1cour show of all the things, they would go far enough to actually do this for each individual character. They were never written for that purpose, nor were they ever intended to be.
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>>146831578
You're one to talk.
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>>146831533
>Seiko isn't in the school anymore so that probably won't happen
Wasn't she already recruited by Munakata at this point? It's not like there's much time left until the despairpocalypse occurs
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>>146831675
>normalfag Hinata slapping Komaeda's self-loathing ass
Yess
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>>146831020
>Ruruka higher than anyone
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>>146831551
>It's like if the Star Wars prequels poorly handled the character of Darth Vader, or Metal Gear Solid V wasn't about Big Boss's fall from grace.

WAIT A SECOND
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>>146831701
>watched pup named scooby doo.
>older and more mature and now get the red herring joke.


Call me dumb but in that one episode of spongebob when it came out, I had no idea what a panty raid was.
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>>146831634

>DR1 anime better than DR3

Is this a new meme?

> Don't even bother responding because I already know you can't answer.

You're clearly baiting at this point, it isn't even funny
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>>146831699
Nanami of course. Junko noticed his strange reaction to Nanami already.
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>>146831699
Not expecting it due to the lack of time left but I'd like something about his home life to be honest. We know that not only did Hajime consent to the Kamukura Project, but his parents also consented to it to. His fucked up views about society have gotta be rooted in somewhere too.
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>>146828572
Of course she does. Junko grew it in a planter. Have you not been paying attention to the supplemental works?
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>>146829092
Gundam argument was since he got 4 hmsters, their hearing accumulate and they got 4 times a hamster hearing which is total bullshit
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>>146831389
>>146831456
gibe hope plox
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>>146831682

> because it means that all those characters existed for was to cement the DR1 survivors plot armor and little else.

That'd be just your interpretation though

From a story point of view that would be good for Seiko's character arc and a great example of Chekov's Gun
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>>146831691
FTD makes the brain go smaller, literally. It's rotting.

He should be having seizures and memory problems. Think dementia in old people. He's absolutely not portrayed realistically, but DR2 Komaeda probably remembered himself in a really early stage.
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>>146831551
>Star Wars
Will they reveal that Nanami is Hajime lost sister?
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>>146831666
>Don't we all? That's why we are here right? That's why even if you guys keep complaining you still keep watching the anime
I keep watching it because I've spent too much time on the franchise to not see the ending, no matter how bad it is.
>But yeah, you guys are in the minority, both in the west and in Japan
Citation needed. Also, why should I care? If the majority believe she is actually dead, let them, they're wrong and they will find that out soon within 3 weeks time. "You're in the minority" isn't an argument.
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>>146831752
>>146831687
The DR1 anime still had a basic plot and some murder mysteries. DR3 has nothing. The main characters walk around in dark hallways while occasionally seeing some background characters die.
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>>146831835
>>146831835
>>146831835
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>>146831647
He had every reason to sort of panic and try to figure out what to do.

What really bugs me is ... is he a "genuine student" logged into HPA as SHSL imposter, or is he just... there?
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>>146831377
It's not new, but it's pretty cheap. Mitarai's character was created for this sole purpose only and I don't like the fact that it absolve the RoD of any personal responsabilities.
Class 77th being despair scum was a cool subversive plot idea. Empathizing with terrible monster is always a bit weird. They were terrible people but you still liked them.
Now they will be terrible people because they were brainwashed. That's kinda underwhelming and I feel it's more about Kodaka not assuming his themes than anything. He seems pretty bad at explaining what happens. I feel myself less and less believing the DR world because of DR3. Some things should just be left to imagination imo.
The tragedy, reserve students revolts and mass suicide ,class 77th fall into despair and involvement into barbaric inhuman things were better when not explained. They were preposterous and unbelievable but when it was just stated as "it happened, deal with it" it held much more power because you had to accept it.
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Reminder that Kodaka said that things will get worse from now on so don't count on HOPE.
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>>146831882
>believing Kodaka
I've learned to not trust that fucker.
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>>146831882
No problem. I'm used to despair.
Despair really makes thing interesting. Just see these threads.
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>>146831831
DR1 was a horrid adaptation of the VN

DR3 was made as a anime thus it works in a way that is better for anime then a VN IE no FTEs no trials ect
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>>146831817
>for Seiko's character arc
The one that got the most resolution of the three as a character already, yeah. She's not the only character being talked about and not even the one who got the most screentime or focus either.

Unless there's more to it, the sub-plot was was pretty much thrown out the window. Arguing a tangential connection between one of it's characters being used as the solution to the dumbest NG code yet somehow justifies all that screentime those three characters got is really reaching.
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>>146828276
This level of denial
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>>146831960
You can't explain the bottle can you?
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>>146831882
That's good though, the more despair, the better the hope.
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>>146828439
How desperate can one faggot be
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>>146832037
See >>146832023
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>>146829085
Spank.
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>>146831830
> I keep watching it because I've spent too much time on the franchise to not see the ending, no matter how bad it is.

Sorry but you're a masochist then. People don't normally watch things they don't enjoy and an anime like DR3 is supposed to provide entertainment, if you can't even find anything good or worth looking foward too then you might as well stop watching and only check for spoilers, right?

That's what I've been doing with Berserk and TG:RE

> Citation needed.

Go check Twitter and other social medias, go check how the number of DR R 3 BD pre orders fell in Japan after episode 9

> Citation needed.

You don't

Btw when I said that you guys are in the minority is regarding your distaste for Kyoko coming back
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>>146828989
>koichi sprites based off of Adachi

Anymore?
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>>146831831

Fuck off with this shitty bait, doesn't even deserves an answer
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>>146832081
>People don't normally watch things they don't enjoy
When it comes to late entries in longrunning series they usually do.
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>>146829057
Keep being in denial. She's dead
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>>146831405
>Yeah, but that isn't exactly saving anyone is it? If anything her drugs are being used by destruction
That was my point.

The drugs didn't need an entire character to be introduced, the drugs themselves are more prominent in the plot than Seiko (or Ruruka or Izayoi) too. There ae characters less disconnected from the main events that they could've focused on instead.
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>>146831949

I was talking only about Seiko because she was the only one of the three that really mattered though

Izayoi and Ruruka were static characters meant to expose a few themes of the series

They had their own subplot there but that ended after Seiko died without an resolution for her problems, if she finally manages to save someone that will be quite good for her character

>Dumbest NG code

Not really, Kyoko's NG code is pottery and makes complete sense
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>>146829268

Keep crying secondary garbage
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>>146829564
Your tears nourish me
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>>146832265

Izayoi and Ruruka had a legit participation in one of the mysteries of the series and were static characters used to represent some of the themes of the series

If Seiko's agency as the one who was behind the drug was erased and these drugs just existed they would be just a souless plot device rather than a well executed Chekov Gun used to end a character arc in a heartwarming manner
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>>146832266
None of them mattered in the end. They didn't make the story more complex, their actual presence in the plot was straight up fluff.

>Not really, Kyoko's NG code is pottery and makes complete sense
Yeah, regurgitating character development Kyoko already had at the end of DR1 and passing it off as something new.
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>>146830848
>denialfag sperging out again
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>>146830167
Mitarai gave her the antidote, along with his open-all-doors key, so that she could investigate outside of the rules of the game.
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>>146831851
I'm pretty sure he's a student, since he had an official HPA profile, but he wasn't really meant to be in Chisa's class. Which means another class is missing a student, I guess.
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>>146832127
Nice argument
>>146831916
This would make sense if DR3 was actually a good anime, but it simply isn't. Outside of epic twists that won't matter once the series finishes airing, DR3 has nothing to offer. A shotty adaptation of a good thing is still better than a shitty original thing.
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> hopeman reveal
> killing game turns out to be orchestrated by him
> jabberwocky island bullshit actually junko fucking somehow
> final episode nothing is resolved
> after final credits
> UPUPUPUPU, LOOKS LIKE THERE IS TIME FOR ONE LAST KILLING GAME IN DANGAN RONPA 3: THE MOVIE, SIDE ONE: HOPE

God, avoiding spoilers for a year is going to be impossible.
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>>146827286
Well Hajime is the only one qualified to do so.
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>>146832435
The mystery regarding Izayoi and Ruruka went nowhere in the end, since all three characters involved in that sub-plot were killed off before doing much. Waste of a few characters and a ton of screentime for no real reason.

The drugs are a soulless plot device. Munakata is literally using them as a video game power-up. Seems like they'll also be used to reiterate the DR1 survivor's plot armor too.
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>>146832081
>Sorry but you're a masochist then.
For wanting to see the ending to one of my favourite series? It's not like it's particularly time time-intensive. Two slots of 24 minutes each week.
>People don't normally watch things they don't enjoy and an anime like DR3 is supposed to provide entertainment
Plenty of people get enjoyment out of bad series, and it's not like I really hate the series. It's just that it's a 6 or 7 out of 10, when i had hoped it would be a solid 8 or 9.
> if you can't even find anything good or worth looking foward too then you might as well stop watching and only check for spoilers, right?
That's as bad as saying if you are reading a bad book you should stop reading and just read the synopsis to get the idea. No point - I rarely ever drop anime and when I do it's because I'm not interested in the conclusion. Clearly, with Danganronpa I am.
>Go check Twitter and other social medias, go check how the number of DR R 3 BD pre orders fell in Japan after episode 9
Social Media isn't a good barometer, and I don't have any data on how well it is/will sell.

You also mistake my distaste for Kyoko coming back as me being against the character herself. I like Kyoko. Her coming back wouldn't kill the series, but it would be very silly on kodaka's part to go out of his way to try to get people to believe DR1 cast do not have plot armour, only to actually reinforce the idea that such a plot armour exists at every opportunity he has. Chiaki being 13h head would be farworse, for what it's worth.
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If Kyoko comes back and she only has the pure red eye which she wraps in a bandage she'll look like shirokuma too much that its scary
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>>146831870
Mostly agree with you, but I think a lot of the "mystery" of the DR world was already getting clearer in UDG with explanations and reveals like how Junko amassed her army of Monokuma robots. The anime is just continuing from that trend.
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>>146830318
3rd time. Chisa.
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>>146831405
It seems like the core of your argument is just "I really like Seiko so shut up, there are these two other characters who got lots of screentime too but who cares if that went nowhere and the viewer gets no payoff on that front, because I really like Seiko".

Not that there's anything wrong liking Seiko, but don't try to deny that Ruruka got even more focus as a character, seemed to be going somewhere as a character, and then (assuming her character arc ends with her death, given that she was all about "survival" and so on) it didn't go anywhere. You shouldn't even be factoring in liking (or disliking) a character at all, that's not what people are talking about when they say that they're disappointed with what's happened here.
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>>146831703
Except that outside of the games narrative they're interesting characters in their own right and feel like, for the most part, fleshed out and enjoyable main characters.

At no point did they feel like secondary characters to me, and even when they tried to say it in the final trial it felt forced and simply wrong. Not to mention this anime could have been a good chance to make them more than that, but watching it makes me feel like they're too different from their in game representation where they were a good, well-developed cast even if the game tries to tell you otherwise.
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>>146832613

The mystery was necessary to reveal Ruruka's NG code in a non contrived manner and to evidence the mystery behind the facility and the secret room for the viewers, their death served to expose a few themes DR has already pretty much made part of it's stories, sacrifice towards a loved one and insecurity/reliance on talent being the key to despair

I also think Ruruka's body will be necessary to show once and for all who the killer is

The drugs would be a souless plot device if they were created by no one but they were created by Seiko, a character most people who watched DR3 ended up caring about. I don't see how Munakata using them is relevant to what Seiko wanted and to the end of her character arc
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>>146832828

What are you talking about? Not every character needs to have the same degree of importance, specially in a 1 cour series

Seiko was simply more important than the static and antagonist Ruruka and her lapdog Izayoi, not every character will be able to get development or a satisfying conclusion, even SDR2 had this with Hiyoko dying
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>>146831020
America's Next Top Bait
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>>146832961
The mystery behind the facility was already being foreshadowed since the first episode and being built on since then, people have been saying "are they underwater?" ever since Seiko's corpse was shown. Uou didn't need Ruruka's NG code to bring it into light.

I don't doubt that Ruruka's body will be a factor, but we're talking about her character arc overall.

Seiko creating the drugs is a non-factor in how they're being used and abused, that's why they're a soulless plot device. Them being used to save Kyoko will pretty much cement that.
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>>146831377
This seems like a really bad plan. "I'm bored by this world. You know what would be super great? If the world were full of nothing but mes who are bored."
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>>146833106
Oh come one guys. Half the characters in each DR game were barely developed beyond their starting gimmick, even including their FTEs. Don't pretend otherwise.
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>>146827320
>they returned on the same day
>the day hopeman met Junko
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>>146833055
When all three characters get as much screentime as those three get, to the point where they even took up an entire week at one point, so no it's not unreasonable to assume that they'd be more important. I don't believe for a second that you don't understand that much.

2/3rds of that sub-plot were given a lot of screentime, implied direction towards something, and it didn't go anywhere. There might be more to this than what we know at the moment but that's what seems to be the case here, you're triviliazing that completely by saying "oh but Seiko's the only one who really matters!".
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>>146833191
Not that anon but barring a small handful of characters the FTEs typically pretty reasonably explored why the characters act the way they do and went beyond 2their starting gimmick", especially with the DR2 cast
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>>146833106
He mystery was being forehadowed but never truly resolved, until now we still have myteries left like why was this underwater facility created, who had the power to move all of them and if mind wipe is involved

> people have been saying "are they underwater?" ever since Seiko's corpse was shown.

I remember a few anons here shitting on the underwater theory, it wasn't as much as a unanimity as you're implying

>Seiko creating the drugs is a non-factor in how they're being used and abused,

It is a factor because she created these drugs with the intent to help and save people, until now Munakata is using them for destruction

>that's why they're a soulless plot device

They'd be that if they weren't linked to Seiko

>Them being used to save Kyoko will pretty much cement that.

IF Kyoko indeed uses that to save herself it will only be a heartwarming ending for what Seiko wanted to do (she ended up saving someone)
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>>146833314
They weren't more developed than the entire episode devoted to Ruruka and Seiko, or the constant appearances of the other trio.
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>>146833399
>They weren't more developed than the entire episode devoted to Ruruka and Seiko
Yeah, they were. That episode was like an equivalent of 1-2 events within a FTE route at most. It's to be expected after all, the game goes into way more detail about this sorta thing.
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>>146833253

Not only this >>146833191

They didn't get as much screentime though? I mean we only learned their backstories through Seiko' eyes and we know her purpose in the story isn't completely over yet

> 2/3rds of that sub-plot were given a lot of screentime, implied direction towards something, and it didn't go anywhere.

This is a killing game, people have to die, what do you wanted? Character development will be cut short sometimes, people will have tragic endings and we will have one note character here and there, this is how it works in DR games

> you're triviliazing that completely by saying "oh but Seiko's the only one who really matters!".

She certainly is the more important one of the trio though

Ruruka and Izayoi existed to represent a couple of main DR themes like self sacrifice for a loved one and insecurity/reliance on talent leafing to despair, to make up the meat of Seiko's backstory and to show that the FF is not as united as it seemed because of what Ruruka wanted to do
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>>146829776
I offered that cenario as an argument for P4's stupidity some time back. The RoDs could be doing this just to fuck with his head and he fell for it pretty much instantly
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>>146833470

In the game you can't even complete all FTEs so it doesn't matter

In SDR2 even by the end oof it you still have one note characters like Akane and Souda among the survivors
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>>146833578
>In the game you can't even complete all FTEs so it doesn't matter
Anon, all I was saying was that FTEs typically go into tons of detail about how and why a character acts the way they do, contrary to what you were saying. What does not being able to complete all of them within a sigle run have to do with that?

>In SDR2 even by the end oof it you still have one note characters like Akane and Souda among the survivors
Both of those characters' FTEs go into a fair bit of detail about why they act the way they do actually. You don't have to like the characters to acknowledge that.
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>>146833578
Souda's not even one-note, he contributes a fair bit over the course of the game. He just also happens to orbit Sonia too hard and ends up being annoying because of it.
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>>146827916
This so much. Ibukifags cant get over the fact her waifu's dead was sad and pathetic.

Even Hajime admit it
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>>146829029
He meant Kyouko
She only showed her alive face 3 times, once per blackout
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>>146833734

>What does not being able to complete all of them within a sigle run have to do with that?

That's the point, since you don't know who dies next you can't chose on who to focus so for example, Mahiru dies in the scond chapter and the player didn't bond with her, that's the end of it though. Want to know more about her? Just on the Island mode

Too bad DR3 doesn't has an office mode, I doubt people would be complaining then

> Both of those characters' FTEs go into a fair bit of detail about why they act the way they do actually. You don't have to like the characters to acknowledge that.

In the same way we know why Ruruka acts the way she does? In the same way we know Izayoi acts the way he does?

Also nothing guarantees the player would have chose those two characters for FTE when there are better options
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>>146827130
Just the ones with shit music taste really.
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>>146833820

He is as much of a one note as Toko is in DR1, thankfully she got her much needed development in AE
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>>146831341
>has both the worst girl (Mikan)
Why are Ibukifags and Hiyokofags so easy to spot? It is like spoting retards that continuosly scream "Im retarded".
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>>146833899
>That's the point, since you don't know who dies next you can't chose on who to focus
That has nothing to do with anything being said though. You said that FTEs "barely developed characters beyond their starting gimmick". That is straight up incorrect.
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>>146833866
so Kirifags Soiafags Asahinafags and Akanefags win?
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>>146833962

It wasn't me who said that, my point was that they're quite irrelevant in the main game becaue you can't really get to see all of them
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>>146833936
Not really, since Touko almost exclusively orbits around Byakuya whereas Souda actually spends more time with Hajime overall and does things in the background (making the two-way radio, fixing the elevator, making Minimaru to get Akane to stop moping) as well as orbiting around Sonia.
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