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Tiny Ainz spinoff when Maruyama?
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>>146788849
>Shota Ainz adventures where he needs to avoid being raped by the female NPCs
>Albedo, Shalltear and Yuri are the biggest threats
>Aura, Mare, Sebas and Cocytus are his allies
>Demiurge just watch from afar hoping that one of the female NPCs are able to get the bone and somehow produce an heir
It's printing money.
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>I can't keep up anymore.
>We were walking this desert for too long.
>How long was it?
>Two months.
>The suffering is real.
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Ainz-sama is for ______
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>>146790659
Communism
What else for red background with yellow letters can be?
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>>146790720
>not supreme dictatorship of all worlds
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>>146790659
Becoming Pirate King.
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>>146791058
Chill dude.
When communism ever was truly about communism?
You tell people it's communism but then you just take more shit for yourself and gulag anyone who protest.
It ain't rocket science.
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>>146791176
>It's Captain Ainz Ooal Gown
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>you home one day and Ainz is just sitting in your front room

What do
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>>146791633
>Prostrate
>Sasuga
>Ask for junior position in SKAOG
>With possible promotion to magical loli
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>>146791633
Laugh at him being a manlet.
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>>146791840
>5ft8

holy fuck

he's tiny

how the fuck is he drawn so big? How come Momon is like 2 meters tall?
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>>146791945
He's 5'10" actually. LN Ainz and Anime Ainz have different heights for some reason.
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>>146792110
>He's 5'10" actually.

holy fuck

he's tiny

How come Momon is like 2 meters tall?
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>>146791840
>Get burnt to a crisp by hellfire for being a disrespectful insect
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>>146792187
Momon in LN isn't fuck huge either.
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>>146792240
I swear he's repeatedly described as being huge
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>>146791633
Ask him to be turned into Cz s lil bro so i can have her spoil me.
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>>146792187
>he's tiny

C'mon anon, you think anyone shorter than 9'8" is tiny.
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>>146792296
Because he's still tall compared to NW characters.
However it's 'taller than average' tall not 'fuck huge mutant' tall from anime.
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>>146792305
I suppose.

Though I suppose 5ft7 is the average height for a jap.
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>In all ways but one, Albedo would faithfully follow her beloved husband.
>“Still, what’s happened to him?”
>But of course, there was no answer to the sound of Albedo’s muttering

What's all that about?
Is that about Smaragdina?
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>>146791176
>>146791259

Imagine Ainz and guardians in One Piece as a pirate crew. How high a bounty would they have?
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>>146792912
Ainz would be 1 billion because he bluff his way through everything
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>>146792777
The way Albedo sees it, the other Supreme Beings abandoned their creations. Part of the reason everyone is so fanatically loyal to Ainz is that for years after the rest of his Guildmates had stopped playing, he carried on solo playing, grinding to maintain the Great Tomb.

the NPCs love him for that. However, Albedo is loyal to Momonga, and only to Momonga.
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>>146792912
Taking all their abilities into consideration - no one could probably stand in their way so either the highest or none.
There would be no World Govt to place bounties on their heads you see.
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>>146792777
She can do whatever he orders her but she will never accept him changing his name to AOG.
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>>146793034
>“Still, what’s happened to him?”
Then is that about Momonga?
She's not a dipshit to not understand that he changed name for good.
I thought she's talking about her creator since she could not probably go against Smaragdina even if Ainz ordered it.
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>>146793133
I think it's about her waiting in his bed to show up but he's busy somewhere.
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>>146793133
I think she states to herself that she'd choose Momonga over Smaragdina.

>“Still, what’s happened to him?”

That line there I think is just about her sexual frustration. She's a sex demon thats a virgin, the poor lass.
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>>146792777
She is sad cause Ainz stopped smilimg and is falling in deeper and deeper sadness.
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So.. everyone under 180 is a manlet now?
I thought the high bar for it was for 175 and under 170 was generally manlet status if you're a gym rat
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Just finished Dungeon Defense, while the MC is kinda relatable to Demiurge, I'd rather compare him to Mare, two of them seem like a much closer pair in terms of character.
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>>146794244
>everyone under 180 is a manlet?
Yes, anon.
Thank you for not using freedoms.
As fellow 175-kun myself I can confirm that bitches usually have a lot of prejudice towards male's hight.
A lot of them even to as far as to declare "everyone below 180 is not a man".
You always have to take nips anthropomorphic scale into consideration.

I have a charismatic buffed buddy who never had any issues with girls, his current gf said some shit like this.
Now he won't stop nitpicking her cuz he 172 and she's still with him.


Notice how buff guys in anime\manga data sheets are all like 185cm and 80kg.
Nigga I'm 175 and I'm 80 when I'm eating clean.
I once was 98 when I ate shit for half a year.

TL;DR: Nips are manlets and 2 meter tall is huge for them and 80kg is super-heavy-weight MMO champion.
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>>146794350
Is it completed or you finished up to date?
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>>146794703
Up to date to current translation only, it's quite fun, reading it alongside Lazy Dungeon Master(basically softcore version of Dungeon defense) to pass time until vol.11.
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>>146794642
Idk, I'm at around 180 but I can't see how could someone at 175 be considered short, the difference is like, the thickness of the hand, you can't even notice it unless you literally stand back to back.

And wasn't manlet something that short(~160cm) buff gymrats were called and not literally fucking every dude under 180cms?
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>>146794901
Don't ask me.
It's female stereotype.
Something like 90-60-90 males have (had?).

Point is: Overlord call DK huge while they are told to be "2 meters tall".
Not a day passes when I see some dudes who need to bend their heads when exiting subway tram.
That is why what is considered "tall" in nips media can be considered meh or even manlet in western circles.
They even had their fucking tanks remodeled for your average JSDF manlet.
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>>146795108
Forgot to add:
girls like to look up to the guys.
Due to quality of life, healthcare, food distribution and other improvements we have growth acceleration in western world.
Even being a slav for every girl much shorter than me I see 5 who are the same, slightly lower or slightly higher than me.
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>I guess Jircniv does this too.
>After all, he leaves a lot of things to his maids, Ainz thought as he commented on the role model as a king whom he had been constantly studying.
I now understand a bit more about stalker mentality
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>>146795231
Idk man, at 175 you should be taller than ~85% of female population in slav areas, otherwise it's ~90% world wide due to asians.
Regardless from what I've experienced it's the wide shoulders that matter a lot but we're getting off-topic.

Ainz is considerably taller in the anime, but even so he should still stand out a bit from most people according to the LN, and even more when he's in his Momon armor, which should at least give him 5 extra cms.

>>146795414
He is literally stalking him, and JUST literally knows this but believes it to be just paranoia, He can detect high-level spy voodoo by Ainz with power of paranoia!
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>>146795592
>should be taller
Then I'm living in a fucking northern equivalent of amazon or something
>power of paranoia
Eh, Maruyama, as most nip authors, likes shit like "he felt the strange presence" or "the displacement in the air" or some shit.
IRL you have to be a fucking monk or a PTSDed war veteran to twitch on that kind of shit.
But that is funny
>I'm feeling a gaze
>That damn skeleton
>Gulping hp potion
>Ainz literally writes everything down and uses it as textbook
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>Ainz thought, I can guess why Albedo wanted to sit on my thigh, but why did Aura want to do that?
>It’s not like she loves me like Albedo does.
I see that NW did not heal the classic terminal case of MC thickness.
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>>146795993
Can't blame him really, first he thought it was because of Aura and Mare being kids, which was probably on-point, so 50 points to Nazarick, then he started trailing off and thinking same way JUST does these days, except in less crazed way.
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>>146796102
>Aura and Mare being kids
>Implying BukuBuku crush on Momonga was not imprinted into twins
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>>146795993
>I see that NW did not heal the classic terminal case of MC thickness.
You can't blame him the only person who ever loved him was his mother and she died while making him a sandwich.
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>>146791633
>pledge eternal loyalty
>expect nothing
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If Demiurge is so loyal why did he lie to Ainz about the sheep?
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>>146796170
They've been made as 70 year old perfect brother and sister kids in BukuChaga-sama's vision, and Ainz literally treats them as kids. I would push it really hard that they see Ainz as a father figure like PA does, except in less literal sense.Unless it was literally written as flavor text that they're Buku and Momonga's children
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>>146796202
That supposed to be sad, but gave me keks instead.
Somehow I've immediately thought about Chinese guy who jumped on office chair while sitting and a pneumatic thingy blew up his anus killing him by blood loss before medics could do anything.
Is something wrong with me?
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>>146796359
He didn't lie. He used a euphemism and knew Ainz-sama would understand.
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hope I don't get banned
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>>146796359
Using euphemisms isn't lying.
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>>146796416
You're just assblasted.
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>>146790000
fund it
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>>146796359
Because he didn't lie? He doesn't see those elves as nothing else but cattle/sheep for Nazarick's farm.
I bet he said it ironically thinking that Ainz would naturally know what he was talking about, and was convinced that Ainz was simply playing along to his sarcasm with his unknowing answer.
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>>146796359
He though Ainz knew and belittled humies by calling them sheep on purpose.
He has -500 karma after all and he thinks Ainz think low of humans too as a projection result.
>>146796407
I though about how Demi and Sebas inherited their creators enmity.
Could twins not inherited their creator sympathies?
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>>146796416
>That supposed to be sad, but gave me keks instead.
Yeah it makes me kek too, of all the possible ways to die she died while making a sandwich.
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>>146796489
That's mostly ST humans and wild demi-humans like orks.
Elves supposed to be a rarity near places where Demi operate his Happy Farm.
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>>146796572
>died while making a sandwich
>females naturally drawn to strong
It's almost as if Maruyama tries to tell us something.
If only I could understand what.
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>>146796507
Unless there's text that states otherwise then they've inherited it too, and since they're like, you know kids, the inherited feelings would just strengthen the father-kids bond, especially due to way Ainz treats them.
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>>146796648
Well Cocytus confirmed personal growth in NW.
Ainz treated Aura with sympathy in "Two Leaders" on their way to Troll&Naga lair.
She could've remembered that and developed a daddy-crush on him.
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Albedo had no problems with Ainz going on a trip for several weeks with 2 female rivals?
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>>146796915
She had a kiss and she's house-keeping.

>Make it easy enough to
understand that even a child could get it.
>But I don't know what the plan is!
>He was simply trying to buy himself time.
>Ainz felt like running away
Post more Ainz catch-phrases
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>>146797045
>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHH!?
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>>146797045
>if I can’t think of it, it couldn’t have been that important
When did this ever ended well?
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>>146797045
>This guy with the same name as me, Ainz. I would like to meet him.
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>>146797820
Every single time? Well, it ended generally well for anyone Nazarick related, for other folks not so much. It's almost as if Ainz was some incomprehensible monstrosity so mighty in intellect that it surpasses mortal concept.
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Imagine touching Fuck Me
What happens if you touch him?
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>Ainz leaned forward, so he could look right into Ainzach’s eyes from close up.
>“I am very upset. But more than that, I am saddened by the fact that you are nothing more than simple monster exterminators. How dare people like you call yourselves adventurers?
>Ainzach, what do you think? Are you willing to adventure under my rule? It is my hope for you all that―”
>Here, Ainz paused for a beat. Then, he let the strength flow into his eyes and his voice,
>“―That you will all be able to become ‘Adventurers’.”
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>>146799986
Is he a grasshopper or something?
Look at dat fukin' thigh!
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>>146800173
Touch Me is a bigger fan of Kamen Rider than he is a justice fag, figure it out.
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>>146797045
>amabo sknaht [By your will]

t. victim
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>>146796202
So the first person to make him a sandwich wins the Ainz bowl? or he just gets PTSD?
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Will Re-Estize and E-Rantel orphanages will be run under same principles and with the same goal by Nazarick?
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>>146800979
No, Renner opened the orphanage with an ulterior motive in mind, poor kids. Ainz would more than likely run the place like an actual orphanage.
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>>146800122
I'd sign up for that desu.
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>>146801596
Like a race transformation bath in the blood of 1500 virgin children or something?
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>>146801596
I wonder if Brain has any idea about Renner's true aim or characters since he is pretty observant and also has a malicious aura as narrated by Climb.

Then again Brain might as well find the successor and then fuck off to power-up his own sorry ass (E-Rantel Dungeon or not).
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>“You really need to thank your luck for that.”
>Climb could only nod in response.
>Little did Climb know
How many lives already sacrificed in exchange for his "luck".
And how many will.
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>>146801758
He's probably going to head to the dwarf kingdom, get his katana runed up.

Poor bastard is going to meet chair again.
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>>146801860
Would be amusing if they took Zenberu along for the trip since he has actually met dwarves during his travels.
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>>146801988
The less we see of Shounen Lizard the better.
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>>146802071
They're endearing since they at least know their place and the limits placed upon them.
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>>146796578

So is Demi's kidnapping of elves be a reason why the Elves suddenly went to war with the Slaine Theocracy?
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>>146802218
Nah, the shit between ST and Elves have something to do with CD mother.
Likely humie fucked her, CD was born and after some time purefag elves couldn't bear it anymore and killed her or something.
CD then was transported to ST and raised there by a bishop.
At least that's what I got from vol10 intermission.
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>>146802354
That or some hypocrite humie couldn't live in Rome like the Romans do and strangled the elf mother and claimed persecution and escaped with the young child and they decided to brainwash her.

It's an age old feud seemingly since CD doesn't seem to give a shit about the other side of her family tree, poor elf needs some therapy from her peers at Nazarick.
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>>146802354
>>146802218
Make that father humie one of 6GG on second thought.
That would make more sense: elves hating his guts, ST taking his half-bred child in, CD being powerful godkin.
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>>146802473
Iirc the late bishop who took CD under his wing was talked in past sense like he already kicked his boots off so who knows how old the feud is.
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>>146802525
>>146802473
>Old feud
CD is fucking old like centuries
She can be direct 6GG descendant for all I know.
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>>146802520
I doubt it would be a direct descendant since that would mean the feud has been going for over 500 years.

Surshana the Death God was the only one living when 8GK killed him after appearing half a millenia ago as per oral traditions from the era.

Probably another bloodline mixing/experiment to see if they can get more of the bloodline to awaken than just the paltry 2 they have now.
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>>146802725
I doubt the feud is older than war against Demon Gods 200 years ago. Older than one generation of humies for sure considering the past tense of bishop being talked about but <200. Maybe?
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>>146802733
How accurate are the oral traditions?

200 years is hardly anything when the life expectancy is so long, especially amongst the people who will be most focused on retelling the oral stories, the priests that also administer the medical magic. A few exceptionally old people and suddenly its only a couple of generations from the current day.
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>>146803711
Considering the 6GG are holy to them I doubt they would knowingly obfuscate their demise or departure unless there's really really heavy reason/benefit to it.

Theocracy isn't as secretive in the end since even Evileye knows about the "Godkins" to be of descendants of mysterious race called Players.

And she could have gotten that intel only from granny or during her stint in the war against Demon Gods.

Since Ainz wishes an utopia for all races it would be nice if the elves under Aura & Mara would have given more intel on the history of the feud or how they ended up being slaves.

Unless of course they were born to captivity and raised as such before being sold to that dick from Empire.
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>>146801758
I don't think Brain suspects Renner to be a psychopath, but he doesn't see her as a saint like Climb does, but that's not saying much. Either way, if he ever finds out about her true self it will probably be too late. Beofre that he'll probably ditch the Kingdom to train in the SKingdom in hopes of beating chair one day, or not. I don't see him sticking around too long though now that Gazef is gone.
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>>146794642
>>146794901
>>146795108

The manlet definition depends on the country. Here, a manlet is below 170cm, while we assume that viking women obviously consider a 172ish guy a manlet, since they0re all bears over 190cm on average.
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>>146800979
>>146801596
Ainz explicitly states that the orphanage's purpose is to scout for talented individuals that can be of service to Nazarick, that was the whole point of his technology speech. Renner basically says the same thing after her orphanage goes up an undisclosed amount of time later. They're both arms of Nazarick.

>>146802218
This is a fun theory, but I don't think the timetable works out. CD's tragedy seems to be either the cause or related to the war, and they said "the people who knew the situation back then are all dead", as in it happened 1+ generations in the past.

>>146802354
It's really hard to follow what they're talking about, but my interpretation was that the elves were responsible for the death of CD's mother, which either caused or inflamed tensions between the nations. If elves killed her and the Slane humans had CD's back, it'd make most sense if the mother was human right?

Because she was born from "impossible odds" my personal theory is that the father elf was one of the 13 heroes and the mother was a god-kin.
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>>146788849
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>>146796458
You should be banned for posting this shit in every thread.
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>>146790000
Quads confirm this would be the best spin-off.
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at what point during the novels do I listen to the CD dramas?
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>Oh cool an Overlord thread, surely this means the Manga updated

I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED!
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So did Ainz give Fluder an actual magical tome/grimoire or did he just give him a plain copy of the Book of the Dead?
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>>146791945
>>146792296
hes wide
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>>146806475
I'm willing to bet it was just an online copy of the Tome of the Dead.
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>>146806033
http://overlordmaruyama.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline
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Excluding Entoma, would each individual member of the Pleaides be able to take on and defeat Blue Rose?
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>>146810558
Narberal, Lupusregina and Solution wouldn't have a problem in defeating them unless Blue Rose have a skill or magic that is effective against them just like Evileye's insecticide. Yuri and CZ would fail, Solution said that Evileye alone is quite strong and might not be an opponent that Yuri and CZ can beat just with levels.
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>>146810558
yuri seems like she hard counters evileye's magic, so probably? she might have trouble actually locking her down for a final kill but the gnats shouldn't be any problem.

cz's too low level to take them all on at once, but she might just be able to assassinate all of them.

solution and lupus both easily hunt them all down, and narberal probably one shots all 5 with her strongest spell
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>>146792187
>>146792110
>>146791945
>forgetting theyre reading chinese cartoons with chinese height context
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>>146810964
>cz's too low level to take them all on at once

She has a gun.
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>>146812192
Didnt Gazzefs warrior band also have ones?
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>>146813080
ahahahaha no.
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>>146813080
bows, they had bows
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>>146813377
>>146813437
Bad translation then.
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What if instead of Ainz it was only CZ who came to the NW, what would the LN be about?
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>>146813491
Where did you get that bad translation from?
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>>146813625
"Uwah!"
>>146813631
Nigel-dono to the rescue, or Nigel-dono triggered by bad Overlord translation.
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>>146813491
I pretty much downloaded every Volume translation I could find, without keeping a record of which ones were memes, Reddit, or Nigel.
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>>146813625
The Slane Theocracy recruiting her to exterminate the bakemono filth in a more efficient way. I am sure they have no prejudices against robots.
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shouldn't Druids be old men with beards?
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>>146814009
But you can see hat-chan.
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>>146814009
So she gets Mind Controled and treated like a regular golem?
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>>146814063
She is Number 2, but the Power Ranger is the best.
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>>146814325
I want these BS scrubs to get rekt by the Pleiades.
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>>146814415
I want the Pleiades to get rekt by the Dragon Lords.
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>>146814325
I want to messily impregnate hat-chan.
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>>146814574
I want the Dragon Lords to get rekt by the floor guardians.
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>>146814415
Do you count the captain among these scrubs, because if yes then it will be one of the fairest fights in the LN so far. Also, I wonder how strong they are. The LN did say the adamantium level, but just the frog siblings already prove it's not necessarily true for all of the non-Godkin members.

Another point is that the NW doesn't have a metal better than adamantium.
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>>146810558
No, except for narberal.
EE is about the same lv as them plus her team mates, pleiades get destroyed separately BS > pleiades

>>146812192
EE blocks it and they rush her.
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>>146814621
I want the floor guardians to get rekt by the bone.
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>>146814779
EE's shield can only take 3 shots from CZ's gun and that was when she was ordered not to kill EE.
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Is there any place where I can see all character sheets made so far in high quality or I'm better off scrapping them from the novels?
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>>146814041
Dude he's a fucking Apostle of Catastrophe, not some weird ass druid.
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>>146815068
Would mare light up if I cast a [Detect Traps] spell?
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>>146815170
His rod would.
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hop in anon, the water's nice and warm
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>>146814744
I believe it would be difficult but the Pleiades would be able to manage a victory even including the captain. Nabe alone would be able to one-shot most of them.
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>>146814779
Yuri, Solution, Lupu, Nabe, and even CZ would be able to easily one-shot all of EE's teammates. Ultimately it would come to a showdown between EE and whichever member of the Pleiades she's fighting. Even though EE is Pleiades lvl, the maids have better equipment; EE would lose. Pleiades > Blue Rose
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>>146815450
Why would I want to take a bath with a gorilla, a lamprey, and a beaner?
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>>146814325
just to be clear, was it Hat-chan that locked herself up after seeing SPLAT in the interlude of vol. 10?
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>>146816129
Yes, it was her.
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>>146815992
cause youre a faget
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>>146815661
You forgot that EE also has some city-destroying power, whatever that is.
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>loyal
>can cook clean sew
>rock hard abs
>great mature body unlike some children
>will do anything you want in bed
she's still the best girl and there's nothing you can do about it

>b-but muh gorilla form
who fucking cares retard it's not like her cute form is an illusion she can switch between them enjoy you boring ass human farm girl retard she's gonna age horribly once she turns like 35 meanwhile Albedo will remain flawless till the end of time
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>>146816312
Just like how chunni Lakyus could destroy an entire country with her sword if her dark side takes over, right?
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>>146816366
>not liking all Overlord girls
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>>146816366
>it's a slut
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>>146816396
Yes, only in Evil Eye's case it's not just letting her imagination run wild.
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>>146816475
not anymore, Papa Bones sent her down the true waifu path
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>>146816366
She is a slut and a mistake. Worst character together with Climb.
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>>146816366
I would have liked her if she hadnt took all of Chairs brains.
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Look at these stats you stupid dfc lovers, this is what a Head Wife looks like
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>>146816667
>Others
>such as slut

>>146816550
Once a slut...
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>>146816576
Maybe vol 11 will redeem Shallchair, now that it's a brand new tale with no material for Albedo to snatch.
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>>146816817
canonically pure
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>>146816817
A woman with a seemingly insatiable desire to do or have sex is considered a slut. Albedo whole character is a slut who wants the bone.
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reminder she is voted #1 best girl by superior nip taste
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>>146816906
Pure slut
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>>146816906
desu that's retarded as hell
>succubus
>pure
The problem of used goods doesn't even exist for succubi.
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Albedo is a slut, Shalltear is a slut, the Pleiades are sluts, Aura will probably grow into one, who in this series isnt a slut?
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>>146817236
wtf I hate sluts now
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>>146817236
Renner
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>>146817236
Is Climb a slut?
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>>146817360
Climb is a shit
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>>146817243
You should.
>>146817249
Try again.
>>146817360
Yes.
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>>146810558

1 v EE, Ninja Twins, She-man and Chunni?

Only Narberal with AoE lighting spells might be able to.

The others excluding Yuri well depends on locations. But likely heavily forested or city areas.

Solution and CZ function best in these areas. Lupu with her stealth tactics, yes. Foucs on taking out the Ninjas first.

As for Yuri, I'm No.3, I seriously doubt she could take all 3 of them at 1 go since she is more or less direct combat built. Unless her "Lone combatant" class have some hidden shennaigens, she is pretty much on the back foot.
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>>146817249
Renner is a mental slut, she's craving that big juicy Demi cranium
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>>146817387
>Try again
As far as we know she has explicitly zero interest in anyone but Climb, meaning she can't be a slut. Meme harder.
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>>146817574
See >>146816982
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>>146817609
>>146816982
That's nymphomania, not a slut.
From the Oxford Dictionary:

Slut (noun):
>derogatory
>1A woman who has many casual sexual partners.

Nymphomania (mass noun)
>Uncontrollable or excessive sexual desire in a woman.

Albedo and Renner may both want the penis, but they're only willing to take it from one person, and Renner conceals it so well that she's not even a nymphomaniac since the big distinguishing feature is that it's an overwhelming part of their visible personality. Renner's main trait is being a sociopath.
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>all black-haired waifu bait are in Nazarick

Is there a single black-haired new worlder female? There's huge abundance of blondes.
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>>146817761
this desu. now enough of your shitty arguments
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>>146817868
The people there are literally all Aryans in the meme sense, that's probably just how their genetics pan out in the area. Remember that we've been wandering around in an absolutely tiny area, for everyone to have one hair colour isn't that unlikely.
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>Vol. 11 will be out by Sept 30
Can't wait.
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>>146817868
We have yet to see any, but it's been mentioned that there are Asians like Nabe living in the south.
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>>146817868
people in the desert city below the flying guild base, probably because the greed kings were asian avatars
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>>146817915

>out by 30th

im sorry anon we will have to wait for scans and translstions. Atleast the Fanfic will be releasing around october too
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>>146817991
There were only eight of them, no way they dominated the entire gene pool that hard
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>>146818013
each one thought they were genghis khan
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>>146818006
The Pure Pure Pleiades OVA is being released on the 30th so at least we have that to enjoy right away.
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>>146818075
Yeah but even Genghis didn't completely dominate the gene pool. He has a shitton of descendents but he didn't literally change the ethnicity of the places we went to.
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How much will ainz freak out once he hears about the race Players from evileye? i can just imagine him freaking out and recalling all the guardians ti Nazarick
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>>146800173
given that all of ainz owl gown's memebers are non-human/monster races, id wager touch me is some kind of humanoid insect race
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>>146818203
It's actually been confirmed that Touch Me is an insectoid.
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>>146818295
What a stupid fucking name
Do you think it comes from the 'can't touch this' meme or what? Was Maru making a sex joke or a 'can't even touch me' joke?
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>>146818319
>What a stupid fucking name

Have you ever even played an MMO? The joke Maru was making is that MMO names are stupid.
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>>146818361
Well yeah, I guess.
>Tabula Smaragdina
Sounds tryhard as fuck
>Bukubuku Chagama
>Herohero
>Peroroncino
>Momonga
>Ankoro Mochimochi
These all sound pretty normal for MMO games
>Touch Me
Sounds kind of tryhard.

why the fuck does he know 'effulgent' as word
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>>146818148
yeah you're right. the flying city also probably had a shitload of human npcs/descendants that migrated there, unless they were all wiped out
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>tfw re-reading and get to first Climb section in Vol5 again
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>>146818505
Climb's sections are literally painful to read
It's just him sperging the fuck out about Renner, I can't believe this isn't on purpose.
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>>146818505
I'm also rereading and I straight up skipped Vol5 and the first half of Vol6.
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>>146818409
>not playing 2e D&D
>not knowing about Elminster's Effulgent Epuration
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Which NPCs are most likely to develop meaningful relationships with people outside of Nazarick? the Lizards already won Cocytus respect and so did Renner with Demiurge, whos next?
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>>146818636
Do nips have the original English versions of the manual?
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>>146818645
All of them should be capable of it now that Ainz has more or less decided that the Great Tomb of Nazarick has expanded to enclose the entirety of his state and soon the entire world.
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>>146818521
It really is. It would have been much more interesting if they just told everything from Renner's perspective instead since she is actually an interesting character. Instead fucking Climb man.
>>146818614
Yeah I'll probably skim through his parts. I did the same for the first half of Vol 4 with the Lizards, just couldn't deal with learning about fish farms.
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Going back through the first volume and I noticed this.
>The Black Scripture was protecting the holy relic 'Downfall of Castle and Country' in preparation for the resurrection of the Catastrophe Dragon Lord

This is the thing they used on Shalltear right? Have we heard anything else about the Catastrophe Dragon Lord? Is he going to fuck the Theocracy up because they had to use their WCI on something else?
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>>146818733
>Instead fucking Climb man.
I'm almost certain that Maruyama is doing this on purpose to make Climb die in a blaze of glory and cheering from fans that he's finally fucking finished
I mean his sections are written in such a fucking bizarre tone you can't pretend it isn't on purpose.
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>>146818795
>that feel when Stronoff bro died before Climb
I hope it's painful
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>>146818733
>>146818614
You two are going to miss out on Sebas making Climb and Brain wet themselves and one-shotting a sadistic degenerate who likes to beat women.
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>>146818853
Stronoff died in a (he had hoped) meaningful manner and even Ainz respected him despite thinking he was an utter retard
Climb will die alone after being cucked by the RotI and the Most Manly Form and his name will be forgotten by history.
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>>146818887
don't worry man I got Sebas ctrl+f'd and highlighted
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Climb's going to get mindbroken and never die when he finds out about Renner's race change and betrayal.
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>>146818887
They're re-reading, not reading for the first time.

>>146818933
How strong do you think lastborn is
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>>146818319
mmo names are all usually stupid, is this a surprise to you?
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>>146818887
I don't like Sebas so whatever. Monk characters are always boring. Butlers even more so.
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>>146818744
From name it sounds like a dragon lich.
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>>146818961
We know Lastborn is lvl 100. Other than that, we know nothing about her strength.
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>>146818961
>How strong do you think lastborn is
idk I haven't read Vol 10 yet, do they give any more info on her?
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>>146818992
>I don't like Sebas so whatever
>Monk characters are always boring
>Butlers even more so.

>>146819046
That's why I said 'think'
We know she has a "special place".
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>>146818992
Plus Sebas is a faggot who placed his own interests before those of Ainz. It's a good thing Solution was there to keep his faggotry from getting too much out of control.
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>>146819060
There's nothing about Lastborn in Volume 10.
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>>146819046
>We know Lastborn is lvl 100
No we don't. We know the last level 100 looks kinda like a miko when wreathed in shadow and we know the Lastborn looks like a miko, so some people assume they're the same. It has never been stated that that's actually the Lastborn.
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>>146819062
>you will never go to Lastborn's special place
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>>146819062
Maybe there's a pattern to the maids that reveals more into on her

we have

Alpha
Beta
Gamma
Delta
Epsilon
Zeta

so what's missing and is there any correlation between names and race/class?
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>>146819112
Lastborn guards the guild weapon. Would she be assigned such an important task if she wasn't a lvl 100 NPC?
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>>146819086
Solution is a miracle of the universe, if Sebas had a little more sense, he would of went for one of the Pleiades instead of a former sex slave.
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>>146819112
I can imagine the stat card already.
>100 levels in slut
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>>146819153
Because even level 90 NPCs can be deadlier than 100s if they're specialized? And Lastborn who manages the portal network is clearly a candidate for specialized NPC work.
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>>146816982
Wrong, woman who sleeps around with large quantity of men is a slut, she's just a nymph, wait, see >>146817761
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>>146819145
There's nothing.
The Pleiades Seven Sisters of Greek Mythology don't have any explicity powers iirc. They're the daughters of Atlas.
The only thing that makes the lastborn special is that Merope had sex with the mortal Orion.
She'll be named somethingsomething Eta, though.

>>146819195
Guren is some bullshit.

>>146819202
I already replied to that post, you don't have to link him to a direct reply.
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Post Overlord memes
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>>146819062
Considering Lastborn is an immortal human, I would assume that all of her levels would be in job classes, since humans don't have racial levels. Looking at the NPC character sheets, it looks as though NPCs that have few racial levels have superior stats to those who have a lot of racial levels e.g. Demiurge vs Albedo. Mare who is a demihuman only has job classes and he is the second strongest guardian. So Lastborn could potentially rival Mare or even Shalltear, especially considering she is tasked with guarding the guild weapon.
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>>146819480
I presume that her immortality comes from one of her job classes so it's likely that she has some sort of hidden job like Eclipse.
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>>146818685
The material was minimally translated so they probably had to teach themselves how to pronounce it.
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>>146819247
I'm hoping for Omega because that would be super edgy and fitting a secret weapon meido
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>>146819512
Wasnt there a D&D class that confered immortality and involved not leaving your backyard and climbing a mountain, maybe thats the reason she cant leave the Eight Floor among others.
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>>146819636
She can leave the eighth floor, Ainz explicitly told Sebas not to move her.
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>>146819636
>Wasnt there a D&D class that confered immortality and involved not leaving your backyard and climbing a mountain
I highly doubt Maruyama knows or cares about the unbelievably obscure Cloud Anchorite prestige class. But yes, that grants true and lasting immortality, and one of the prerequisites is living 12000 feet above sea level for a week. (It's hilariously useless apart from becoming immortal, so I guess it would be perfect for Yggdrasil.)
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>>146819636
>>146819657

So controls the teleporters. If they move her, who is gonna man it?

One of those DK?
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>>146819753
>I highly doubt Maruyama knows or cares about the unbelievably obscure Cloud Anchorite prestige class
He's a veteran DnD player, I imagine he does.
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>>146819763
A DK dressed as a train conductor.
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>>146819763
I think the teleporters can function by themselves. She's only there so that in the event that invaders try to use the teleportation gates, she can instead send them to a lava pit or some room with a death trap. It's just a security measure.
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>>146819791
It's a prestige class from Frostburn! For Monks! Nobody remembers Frostburn and nobody plays Monks!
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>>146819869
Do you really think so? With all the Sebas dicksucking?
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>>146817395
Man, i really need a chapter or two of Yuri wrecking shit.
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>>146819906
Sebas is clearly an unarmed Swordsage.
Monks don't even have ki techniques in 3.5.
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>>146819799

>Uh..hi, I need to get to the 5th level
>GRAWWWWAWW!
>*Cheezy elevator music*

>>146819856
Well, Demi's minion could take that job.
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>>146819984
There is d&d 5 elements too tough.
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>>146820126
What?
D&D 5th Edition PHB was released on August 19, 2014. Overlord Volume 7 was released on August 30, 2014. Only volumes 8 and on could have 5E elements.
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>>146819938

She can't, not when she need to take care of her other sisters. What about educating the kids at the orphanage?
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>>146810558
As in blue rose Gagaran, EE, two ninjas and chuuni leader?
Fuck no, none of the Pleiades would be able to defeat them individually.
If you're talking about Gagaran + Tina + EE party then it's hard to say.
Lupu and Nabe would probable put up a decent fight, everyone else would be defeated easily.
Solution is rogue so her 63lvl doesn't give her much credit.
>>146818187
>Alert alert raise security to the maximum
>Promptly returns from treasury armed with the twenties to the teeth
>Please do continue EE-san
>>146818744
>Tabs on Catastrophe Dragon Lord being a dragon lich
>Sleeping under the Katze Plains
I mean BS literally was sneaking around Ainz lawn while investigating CDL current status.
It's bound to be sleeping somewhere nearby
>>146818961
A level 100 telespammer?
She's probably the one controlling teleports, Cherry Blossom Area Guardian or something.
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If Lastborn is the miko depicted in the lvl 100 NPC picture, then wouldn't that make her a spirit based magic caster like Entoma? I imagine she would have job levels in medium and shaman like Entoma does, and she would of course use talismans. Basically, Lastborn would be a superior lvl 100 version of Entoma.
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>>146810558
Lupu might be able to do it, CoDzilla stronk.
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>>146820236
She can educate me anytime:^)
>tfw Yuri will never educate you ;_;
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>>146788849
Alo, is weeb 9gag still kill?
testing
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>>146814744
>LN did say the adamantium level
No, it didn't. Stop with this bullshit already.
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>>146820290
Gagaran, ninja twins, and Lakyus would get one-shotted by any of the Pleiades. Then it would just be EE left and she can't win against Nazarick's superior equipment. You think Nabe would put up a decent fight? Did you forget that Nabe can use 8th tier magic? Nabe could one-shot all of Blue Rose including EE. You apparently have no understanding of power levels.
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>>146820376
Huh?
>>146820290
Zuranon tries to ninja their way into getting CDL into their ranks and runs into CDL bowing and swearing allegiance of him and entire Katze Plain to Ainz who is strolling

SASUAGA
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>>146820415
It's more complex than this.
For example Yuri could be in trouble if Lakyus realizes she's an undead.
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>>146820290
>Fuck no, none of the Pleiades would be able to defeat them individually.
The only reason Entoma lost at all was because of the bugspray, it was a horrid matchup. Yuri and CZ are completely immune to the vampire powers Evileye has and are also resistant to her elemental attacks. All of them can be one-shotted if they take a solid hit, and Maximized Twin Dragon Lightning just destroys everything.
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>>146820394
>“Then… can the Black Scripture deal with it? That’s the most important thing.”

>They were the Slaine Theocracy’s final ace in the hole, a special forces unit composed of heroes. One could think of them as adamantite-ranked adventurers, but there was a critical difference between the two, that of their equipment.
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>>146820502
They're the analogy to adamantites because of their rarity and power, not because they're literally the same level. Gazef is stronger than Adamantites in a straight fight, but Clementine (barely heroic tier) is stronger than Gazef (approaching heroic).
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>>146820502
It doesn't mean they're adamantium tier in power just that they are
>final ace in the hole, a special forces unit composed of heroes
as the strongest people the nation can send against powerful enemy.
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>>146820456
Yuri can tank a few spells. What do you think is going to happen if Yuri punches Lakyus in the face? All of BR would quickly get one-shotted by the Pleiades.
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>>146820558
Lakyus isn't even level 30 is she? Do we have an updated power chart for volume 10? This is an old-ass version at least
Remember too that Entoma is an all-rounder in terms of her build, she's not a solo fighter like Yuri or Narberal might be considered.
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>>146820553
But they are. Clementine can defeat normal Gazef even with her shitty equipment. If both wear their special equipment then Clementine wins aniway.
And Clementine is not even the strongest.
They are adamantite rank average but have better equips than Gazef.
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>>146820713
Adamantite ends at 28, 29 is Gazef's borderline heroic and Clementine at 9th seat is minimum equivalent of a level 30.
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>>146820713
Read what you just wrote.
>Clem is stronger than Gazef
>Clem is not even the strongest BS
>Gazef is stronger than adamantium
>they are adamantium rank
Can you see what's wrong here?
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>>146820762
>>146820775
Gazef himself says he is weaker than a true adamantite adventurer. There are adventurers who reach adamantite rank with teamwork.
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>>146820612
Actually, I believe Lakyus should be atleast lvl 30. Adamantite adventurers are more or less lvl 30.
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>>146820762
>>146820775
>>146820713
Not him but technically since there are no ranks beyond Adamantite, even Narberal Gamma and Momon are Adamantite-tier.

>>146820803
No they're not.

>>146820798
He does not say that, he says he'd lose against them in terms of fighting monsters, teamwork and sheer utility. In a straight fight, Gazef is stronger than Adamantite adventurers.
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>>146820612
I think Fluder and Dominon places should be switched, while EE and Rigrit be on the same level as him.

Vampire brides are too high, Brain could clearly beat one.
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>>146820835
>there are no ranks beyond Adamantite
>what is heroic tier
>what is outlier tier
Just because Adventurer's Guild stops their ranking at adamantium it doesn't mean it's the top.
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>>146820845
In the novel Brain and the Vampire Bride are roughly evenly matched.
At any rate I know there's at least one version that's more populated and I'm waiting for someone to post it.
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>>146820867
>Just because Adventurer's Guild stops their ranking at adamantium it doesn't mean it's the top.
But it literally does, because Evileye is still an Adamantite even though she's also legendary tier.
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>>146820803
They can't be, otherwise Entoma would have had more trouble with She-man and Tina, or to be more precise they would last a lot longer in the fight, rather than just simply suffering rolf-stomping from Entoma.
Their range is 28-25/24 at best.
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>>146820886
It stops for AG that's why the author said BS are comparable in status to Adamantium rank adventurers (ST doesn't have AG).
But people who are heroic tier are still stronger than adamantium tier.
>>
>Re-read Lizards
>Re-read Climb
>Cannot read Philip
Sasuga Veggie-dono
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>>146820415
>power levels
>Overlordfags used to hate those faggots
>they don't even react to it now
What happened? Is it shonen tier now?
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Isn't the raw of next manga chapter out or something
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>>146821052
Powerlevels were always part of those threads even though they were called ranks or tiers.
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>>146821052
>What happened?
Anons stopped giving a shit.
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>>146821052
There's explicit powerlevels in the novel.
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>>146821112
>vague
Here, anon.
I fixed it for you.
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>>146821052
Because the powerlevelfags aren't dropping it, and we don't have any other proper term for headcanons and speculations, plus we ran out of fucks to give and don't want to turn every thread into >kys.
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How hype are you for another Pure Pure Pleiades?
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>>146820364
>Yuri will never educate you

>mfw Yuri educate you how to become a maid. You now wear the same dress as her
>little boys wear skirts in Nazarick
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>>146821267
This much

On the othernote for the lewdfags, someone said there's a Albedo isekai into Suzuki's real world and meet him there doujin?
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>>146821104
Just how far was our fall?

>>146821163
>headcanons and speculations
>headcanons are tolerated now
>using the acronym kys
Even farther than I thought.
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>>146821375
Would you shave your legs and beard for Ainz-sama?
Will bearded maid be okay?
I mean they got Sebas.
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>>146821394
>Just how far was our fall?
>headcanons are tolerated now
Fuck off newfag, headcanon like Rubedo's ability or personality and what Victim actually did was tolerated since literally the first threads on /a/.
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>>146821394
It can be worse.
It can be ITT Touch me x Ulbert
It can be humanfags
It can be PDL >120lvl

It can always be worse, anon.
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>>146821394
To be honest it's more of anons being zealous about speculations with a newfag here and there that mixes something up or asking because of speed reading.
>>146821417
That's speculations that most were doing, head canons were those few that took it as canon.
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>>146821462
It could be for example ESLfags.
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>>146821469
Specula has been nigh equivalent to headcanon for as long as I can remember since before the actual canon is revealed any and all specula that you think is a reasonable guess and 'probably the case' counts as headcanon.
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>>146820612
I reckon Evil Eye is lower level than that.

The reason she was able to stand up to Entoma was because she had a spell that Hard Countered the Bug, and even then with the help of 2 other addy adventurers she barely won. So I'd put her down by around 5 levels.
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>>146821052

To be fair, the whole powerlevel Bullshit is mainly due to encounters we knew. The totally lack of correct official info kinda fucks it up.

Moreover some Anons here jump on any info not counter checking. Which brings us to the headcannon masters feeding them.
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>>146820612
Where does Momon fit in opinions of the NWers?

Do they think he's around 100 too?
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>>146821474
Overlord is internationally popular.
You read nips -> chinks -> eng fanfic translation.
We ESL aren't going anywhere no matter like it or not.
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>>146821550
They use "challenge scale" instead which is usually accepted to be Ygg lvl multiplied by 3.
EE said something about Momon being 200+ on this scale so they at least give him credit up to 60 lvl ygg.
Which should be fair for perfect warrior transformation.
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>>146820912
Lakyus is stronger than the twins tough.
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>>146821550
NW doesn't have a way to measure levels. The guild has challenge rating but it's not the same.
I don't think they could even comprehend the true lvl 100.
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>>146821375
>ywn be taken in E-Rantel tutored by Yuri-sama
>ywn work so hard you get compliments from the big boss Ainz Ooal Gown
>ywn have Yuri-sama say her satisfaction with your devotion to work
>ywn get promoted to work inside Nazarick with restriction of never leaving outside
>ywn have Ainz try to award you with any wish
>ywn have Ainz awkwardly grant you to date/engage Yuri-sama
>ywn marry Yuri
>ywn have Yuri-sama teach you everything there is to serving Ainz Ooal Gown, including being an amazing lover on your wedding night
>yw read this piece of shit fanfic
Why live?
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>>146821410
>shave your beard

You need to under the age of 12 to join Yuri's education program.
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>>146821387
Name?Pic?Anything?
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>>146821608
Still doesn't make her stronger than Adamantium. She's in the mid adamantium range, or even top, twins are probably bottom class of Adamantium rank. Still only 4 level difference at best
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>>146821626
My mental age fits.
Does it count?
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>>146821646
Apparently this or something like it, but I've searched fucking everywhere and I can't find it.
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>>146821654
>She's in the mid adamantium range
Like Gazef she's almost heroic so around 30.
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>>146821672
>alfredo shows up in rl
>she's not a demon
>no powers/magic
>only crazy
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>>146821611
>>146821600
I meant where do they think momon stands relative to the others, rather than the actual level.

Most agree that he's way ahead of Evileye and other Addy adventures. But do they understand the scale of the gap between the top NWers and the Lvl 100 Guardians?

They continue to assume that AOG might be using ~8th tier spells, not even considering the possibility of 9th/10th/Super.

I think they would say that AOG, Jalbadaoth and Momon are around 80ish, or on the level of the PDL. They haven't realised that they are even further ahead than that.
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>>146821672
Assuming he was heading out - where is his hazmat suit and gas mask?
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>>146821678
Yet she was still weaker than Gazef, Gazef who's more or less confirmed to be level 29 equivalent, so she's top Adamantium, at level 28 equivalent, at best.
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>>146821565
>We ESL aren't going anywhere no matter like it or not.
Does that imply, that you don't intend to improve your language skills?
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>>146821672
>your waifu will never isekai to find and marry you
Why even live?
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>>146821704
>she was still weaker than Gazef
wut?
>Gazef who's more or less confirmed to be level 29 equivalent
double wut?
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>>146821711
I don't even fucking know, vol.11 maybe?
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>>146821702
It's kind of hard to imagine an upper limit anon.
They only have Dragon Lords to compare to.
Anything above that is usually beyond NWers imagination.
Also emphasis on "challenge scale".
With no quests suitable for 100lvl Ygg entity - they did not ever use ratings like 300 to rate monster or quest.
ST does know of 10th tier and judged Dark Young summonint to be of this level.
>Jokes on them
>It's Super Tier
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My main beef with ESLfags is that they sound retarded. Other than that there's really no need to care more or less about them. They like Overlord, let them like Overlord.
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>>146821739
Looks like a good enough reason, thank you.
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>>146821760
Doesn't that mean they are overestimating 10th tier? and that the upper tier is weaker than they think?

I guess it actually means they simply don't consier super to be possible. If Super tier is abilities, does it show up in the nameless tomb?
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>>146821707
It is imply my language skills are enough for my job and free time chatter.
Being the lazy /a/ss of course I don't plan on improve something even if it would work just barely.
Where do you think you are?
>>146821735
Well anon Gazef is heroic.
He's stronger than Lakyus but weaker than Clem with comparable equipment.
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>>146821814
>Gazef is almost heroic
>Lakyus is almost heroic
Where the fuck do you get this Gazef > Lakyus?
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>>146821774
Did you consider that we usually not only sound retarded?
>>146821795
That means they underestimated Ainz's spell.
It could be that 6GG was not toplvl players and have no access to Super Tier or they just didn't bother to try explaining it to a closeminded fanatics who worshipped them like gods.
>Eh uh
>Yeah that's 10th tier spell, you can say that
>Whatever
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>>146821838
What exactly in "Strongest Warrior in neighboring Human nations" is not clear to you?
Not taking top secret KC and CD (Clem too) - he was known to be The Strongest.
Adventurers or not.
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>>146821735
Clementine was pretty much confirmed to be on powerscale/powerlevel/tier/whatever-the-fuck-you-want-to-call-it of a level 30 or yggdrasil character, and was considered to be in the realm of heroes/heroic tier, while Gazef who was slightly weaker than her was considered to be on the doorstep to the heroic tier and was known to be stronger than a Adamantine class/rank/tier adventurer, so his power is basically/more or less confirmed to be equivalent to a level 29 yggdrasil character if you ignore that it's intentionally being kept as a secret so that it's set in stone that NW is completely different from Yggdrasil, and that there's no way that this is simply Yggdrasil 2.

Now if we take Laykus, who is weaker than Gazef 1v1, Gazef who is at the power of a level 29, then her max power can be at that of a level 28.
>>146821838
>Where the fuck do you get this Gazef > Lakyus?
They said it? Gazef can take the Blue Rose members 1v1 on and win, but he can't beat them as a group, likewise he wouldn't be able to beat an opponent that they could as a group, but neither of them(not counting Evileye) could win solo against opponents that he'd struggle to win.
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>>146821859
But doesn't the ST have that nameless tome (not tomb), that records all magic, even newly invented magic? Evil Eye mentions it in the tavern while talking with Beefcakes and Climb, in Vol 5.
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>>146821859
I understand that people type differently from the way they talk and that it's petty to rag on people for their command of English.

The fact is that they do sound retarded. But hell, retarded-sounding people get elected and you meet them all over the place, it's hardly a mortal sin.

In short, disliking the way ESLfags speak is a purely stylistic gripe.
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>>146821887
Except Lakyus is not a pure warrior, you retard.
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>>146821932
She's basically a paladin.
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>>146821902
I can triple check spelling in my work-related mail while obviously I won't go that far for /a/nons.
People picking on ESLs are usually trolling or self-affirming.
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>>146821895
Do keep in mind that the organic thing anon mentioned thread of few ago still counts, I get it but I can't freaking explain it.
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>>146821932
>Gazef
>The Strongest
Who's fucking retarded there?
You can't even comprehend three words phrases.
>>146821899
IDK if ST owns it or it just lays in some tomb.
Super Tier may count as skill and don't show up in that book.
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>>146821976
>organic
Explain, I missed it
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>>146821967
Yeah, pretty much. There's just no point in hassling them about it unless you want to get your jollies and I'd like to think I've grown out of that.

>>146821932
Lakyus is a battle cleric. Same type as Lupu or Shalltear.

I wonder if Lupu and Chair would team up to rape Lakyus?
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>>146821993
>three words phrases
Yes the three word phrase is "The Strongest Warrior" and Lakyus doesn't count as warrior.
She has levels in Templar but she's a divine spellcaster.
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>>146821565
>We ESL aren't going anywhere no matter like it or not.
I'm an ESL too you imbecile. Learn to speak English.
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>>146822058
I think ESL are those that can't into English.
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>>146822058
>Learn to speak English
My skill is enough for my purposes.
If you're unsatisfied with it - don't take it to heart.
>>146822034
Do enlighten me how a Paladin weaker in melee than Gazef would have an advantage in 1v1 with him?
He's not a fucking undead.
Gazef estimated that he would probably wheck Fluder shit when equipped with Five Treasures.
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>>146822070
No, ESL literally means 'English Second Language'. You don't apply it to people like me because you have no fucking way of telling that it's my second language unless I explicitly bring it up.

>>146822102
If you're going to post on an English-speaking imageboard it's generally a good idea to be fluent in English and not type like someone who took his local uni English class for a year. It's incredibly fucking jarring to read your posts.
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>>146822058
Oh except if >>146821474 meant to say "ESLfags = ESL shaming retards"
Then I do agree and apologize for confusion
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>>146822102
Typically clerics and paladins can cast buff spells on themselves, heal themselves, and use attack spells during combat.

The healing part is most important; you can't fight if you have no HP.

>>146822123
When in Rome...
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Can we all just speak in chink and be done with the ESL ?
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>>146822123
That's what I said. You only call it people that can't speak English properly.

>>146822102
She's not a Paladin you fucktard.
She a Cleric with some levels in Templar. She can wear armors and use swords but she's still not a warrior.
So even if she would lose against Gazef in a fight it doesn't mean her level is lower.
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>>146822123
>generally a good idea
Tell me how /a/nons are adepts at following common sense and accept generally accepted values.
My colleagues can understand me fine.
I don't check what I post for spelling three times cuz you know, I'm not getting payed for that, it's not my native language and I don't intend to spend my free time on getting 400 score in language courses instead of degrading here.
>>146822156
Gazef equipment allow regeneration.
It's only fair to count it in since I doubt Lakyus would be wearing scrub gear.
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>>146822208
Fuck no, I can't navigate a Chinese keyboard. Reading is one thing, I can't be arsed to hunt and peck for characters.
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>>146822011
Do bear with me here as I'm terrible at explaining.

It's the whole thing with Yggdrasil system, and well pretty much the whole game being fused with the NW.

Yggdrasil character(lets take the 2 players from 13 Heroes headcanon for example) would "grow" in a mechanical fashion. He would perform and act as a set level until an "upgrade" or a level up happened, then a jump in skill/power would occur as result, from a NW bystander point of view it would seem like suddenly getting stronger or smarter and taking a leap forward.

NW individual on the other hand will "grow" in a organic or natural sort of way, there would be no sudden jumps in power/strength/speed after for example hitting a tree with a spell/fist/spear every day for a month, NW would grow a bit stronger every day, instead of needing a set amount of experience of doing something to improve.

I can't really explain it to you unless you know what I'm talking about, so apologies for that, hopefully you'll understand from this nonsense I've written.

"Gamer" manhwa manages to merge this part very well when it comes to MCs HP, a spear to his chest only counts as a hit and set amount is removed from his HP, or a critical if it's to his face, but unlike normal people it's not lethal.
Argh this is annoying, I can't explain shit.
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>>146822212
>lose
>not weaker
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>>146822154
No, I meant specifically ESL imbeciles who are defiant and won't just Learn 2 English before posting on an English imageboard. Yurifag no. 3 was the same and he/she very nearly singlehandedly ruined the general.

>>146822102
>Gazef estimated that he would probably wheck Fluder shit when equipped with Five Treasures.
Gazef is retarded, he has no way of stopping Teleportation / Fly / Fireball spam. Fireball is a 3rd tier spell meaning it's borderline heroic tier, even Gazef won't get away unscathed.

>>146822222
Nice quints but that doesn't excuse you. ESLs are and always have been a cancer upon all of 4chan and /a/ especially.

>>146822208
I don't care if we do since I can speak Chinese fine.
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>>146822228
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>>146822222
>Tell me how /a/nons are adepts at following common sense and accept generally accepted values.
We, as in /a/, generally adhere to proper grammar unlike some other boards.
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>>146822251
Anon, 3rd tier spell is mithril.
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>>146822246
Next you are going to tell me that healers should do more damage than a dps?
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>>146822311
>3rd tier spell is Mithril
No it ain't what are you on about?
Evileye's strongest tiered spell is 4th tier and the strongest caster in the NW has up to tier 6 spells.
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>>146822222
Gazef's gear is basically:
- infinite stamina (infinite uses of MA, can function at peak capacity forever)
- regeneration (can't be worn down by small attacks)
- immunity to critical hits (he can't be taken out by lucky shots and single big attacks)
- sword of sharpness (he can kill opponents without exerting himself so much)

In short his gear basically gives him a pocket cleric backing him up and given his nature as a martial arts user, he is actually the perfect user for it.

>>146822230
Basically, game physics are not RW physics. You can basically consider people from YGG to be constructs with the same parameters as they would have in-game, while NW people are regular people who power themselves up using concepts similar to the game.
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>>146822316
Clerics do kick the living shit out of rogues in D&D, and YGG is heavily inspired by D&D.
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>>146822379
THANK YOU!
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>>146822340
>Arche is borderline heroic tier
>Crush is borderline heroic tier
What would Lakyus be with her 5th tier then?
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>>146822424
Pregnant with doppelbabies.
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>>146822424
I'm pretty sure Lakyus' resurrection spell is an equipment thing, since even Slane has to do some big-ass ritual to rez.
Both of those are very high-end casters, 4th tier casters are extremely fucking rare while 5th and 6th are legendary.
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Which volume of the LN is the one with Shalltear just getting dranks the entire time because she's bummed she betrayed papa bones?
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It was a mistake to enter this thread.
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>>146822483
Resurrection is a 5th tier spell. Some people in the ST can cast it by themselves (the Cardinals?). Summoning Dominion Authority is definitely a ritual, though.

>>146822490
v4.
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>>146822437
LIES!
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>>146822483
3rd tier is Mithril
5th tier is Heroic
6th tier is Fludertium
ST rituals are 7th tier
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What is the point of visiting dwarfs in their mountainhomes if you cannot get drunk with them?
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>>146822530
>5th tier is heroic
>dragon lightning is heroic
Don't think so.
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>>146822537
You wait for them to get drunk to steal all their runes.
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>>146822514
Please, PA fucks Narb for duty but he makes love to Lakyus because they're soulmates.

I wonder if PA will ask Lakyus to "tell me your name. No, not the lame one your parents gave you, the true name of your soul."
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>>146822537
Well, since Shalltear can drink as much as she wants she can become a dwarf legend .
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>>146822542
>I know better than LN
Headcanon the post
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>>146822554
>the true name of your soul
I laughed have a (you)
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>>146822580
Where does the LN state that 5th tier is heroic
Remember, Evileye uses tier 4 spells as a high heroic tier.
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>>146822561
>Aura and Shalltear have to wear dresses
>Aura is uncomfortable in a dress
>Shalltear bullies her mercilessly
>sun rises in the north
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>>146822554
>Suddenly Ainz pops out screaming his nazi-loving chuuni lungs out
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>>146822605
Before I spoonfed you, tell me where does it say tier 4th is high heroic tier?
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>>146822605
Evileye can use higher rank spell tough, didnt she use a rank 5 spell against Yuri and Cz?
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>>146822616
You mean
>Ainz rolls around on the ground (while invisible) as PA (in Ainz's form) teaches Lakyus how to heil
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>>146822642
Evileye is mid-high heroic tier if we believe that Gagaran, Tia/Tina, and Lakyus are on the border of heroic tier and barely below Gazef and we assume that Fluder is the upper boundary of Heroic tier to legendary.

>>146822649
Did she? I'll reread that fight.
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>>146822684
Sand Field All was 5th tier, IIRC. It's in v6, I think.
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>>146822684
>I'll reread that fight.
Better reread the whole NW.
EE and Lakyus can cast 5th tier.
Your so called "borderline heroic" 3rd tier is usued by everyone in Mithril and above.
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>>146822725
3rd tier is "highest in common use" while 5th tier (according to Nfirea) is heroic tier.
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>>146822692
I know where it'd be, it's just been a while.
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>>146822743
Yes, that's why that guy who said 3rd tier is borderline heroic tier is wrong.
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Almost every Overlord threads without fail have Anons vs Anons over:

>English
>Headcannon
>"I not reading, just tell me"
>Powerlevels

Makes me wanna go back in time where Anons just wanted their dicks chopped off by CZ and turned into a girl.
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>>146822794
That was the worst fucking period though.
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>>146822251
>defiant
Just lazy, anon.
The one who's triggered like you are rare.
>quints
>not excuse
I don't need you to excuse me since I don't feel any guilt.
There is no point in arguing further since I'm not going to git gud just for you.
>Gazef retarded
That may be, but Fluder mana is not infinite while Gazef is quite agile on the ground with treasures and have nigh infinite stamina for evasion.
>3rd tier
>Heroic
Just no, anon.
This >>146822311
3rd tier is considered powerful, but not really legendary.
Just good.
>>146822311
I try but don't expect me to invest real effort in it.
I don't invest it in my life so why /a/ should stand any higher?
>>146822316
"Stronger" means literally "can kill".
If 30lvl healer can be diedened by 30lvl warrior then healer is weaker in combat without support.
Plebs usually talk about this when they throw words like "The Strongest" while unbeknown to them monsters like Clem, KC, CD exist.
>>146822537
Equipment for Adventurers
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>>146822292
this >>146822855 was partially meant for (you)
>I try but don't expect me to invest real effort in it.
>I don't invest it in my life so why /a/ should stand any higher?
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>>146822855
>If 30lvl healer can be diedened by 30lvl warrior then healer is weaker in combat without support.
It doesn't change the fact that both are level 30 and they will be at the same level on the chart.
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>>146822891
>I don't invest it in my life so why /a/ should stand any higher?
>I don't invest effort in my life so haha just fuck off and deal with my idiocy
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>>146805640
dont be so stingy at least they're contributing to the thread
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>>146822930
I don't expect anything of you.
You are free to deal with it however you see fit.
It's not changing anytime soon from my side that I can tell you.
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>>146823014
That's what's known as a shitposter and now you see why you're disliked.
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>>146822929
But who is the strongest in the fight?
My point always was that 1v1 Gazef could wreck any of Blue Rose members, not to engage into phallic fencing over power levels with you.
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>>146823034
>disliked
>1.5 anons
I can live with that
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>>146823034
He's baiting you hard m8888888

>>146823044
Nigga that's not the point, when we talk about power tiers we're going off total level
A level 35 alchemist might lose to a level 35 berserker and a level 35 Strategist might lose to both but all of them are Heroic and none are any stronger than others.
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>>146822829

Ya, kinda agreed, but better then watching Anons here at each other's thoart.

ppl

>>146822891
>>146822930

Come on Anons just take a step back and let it go.
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>>146823044
>My point always was that 1v1 Gazef could wreck any of Blue Rose members
So you just butted in and derailed the discussion? Because it was started by some retard claiming that Lakyus is lower level than Gazef just because he's a strongest.
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>>146823096
>none are any stronger than others
I still meant stronger = can kill in 1v1.
That's stronger in my book.
If you need comrades to tank for you - that's okay, but you still realize it's stupid to go 1v1 against pure warrior cuz u know.
>U'r a fucking healer and is weaker than him
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>>146823162
Yes.
Cuz when someone says "stronger" I think "can kill" not what the fucking numbers are in their character sheet.
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>>146823132
He >>146821474 started it!
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>>146823162
Well Laykus must be lower level than Gazef, otherwise EE would say during the tea parties that Laykus is in the realm of heroes, which she is not.
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>>146823285
But Gazef isnt either.
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>>146823312
Well Gazef was borderline, she's not even that. Difference between them two isn't big, but it's there.
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>>146823285
>>146823367
LN states that Gazef
>had yet to overcome the barrier to reach the realm of 'heroes'
while Lakyus
>is already one step into the realm of heroes
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>>146823380
Then did I read a bad translation where it was said that Gazef could beat any BR members 1v1(minus EE)?
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People tend to forget but Lakyus beat the ninjas twins when they tried to kill her. And this without killing them.
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>>146823430
Beating someone doesn't mean shit.

Lakuys is already "one step into" because she can cast 5th tier which is domain of heroes.

headcanon/speculation warning
Her only 5th tier spell is resurrection which means she can only use up to 4th tier in battle. If she learns proper 5th tier battle spell she would be stronger than Gazef.
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>>146823518
It is incredible how such a chuuni could get so far.I want her to meet PA already and train under him.
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>>146823518
>she would be stronger than Gazef.
But she already is anon.
Technically.
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>>146823602
Water God was impressed by her chuuni about defending demihumans and shit.
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>>146823623
It reminds me of that Skeletal Dragon discussion months ago.
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>>146822398
The fact that Touch Me, Sebas, and Cocytus are not disregarded as completely ineffectual makes it clear that for whatever Yggdrasil takes away from 3.5, it is not class balance.
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Why Gandalf can't control the Death Knight if it's a low level creature?
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>>146824013
>strongest guardian is cleric
>second strongest is druid
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>>146824067
because he didn't read LN
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>>146823689
>Skeletal Dragon discussion
What was that about?
>>146824067
He's shit at Divine Magic and it's supposedly what is needed to control\banish undead.
>>146822230
>>146822379
Thanks for explanation.
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>>146824068
>second strongest is druid
Mare isn't the second strongest guardian.
Meanwhile Albedo is also a melee class.
Even assuming Cocytus is a Warblade, Sebas is a Swordsage (unarmed variant), and Albedo is a Crusader, they're tier 3s compared to pure wizards.
If class balance was anything like 3.5, Ulbert and Touch Me would not be rivals, Ulbert would be the strongest living existence on the planet.
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>>146824068
That said, the third strongest Guardians are a tossup between Albedo, Cocytus and Sebas, who are all melee tyoes. However, it should be noted that none of them is just a melee attacker; ALbedo has the strongest defenses among the Guardians, Cocytus has ice powers and an arsenal of weapons with powers of their own, while Sebas is the fastest Guardian and has the highest P.Atk in addition to dragon mode.

>>146824150
It may be that you have to be a necromancy specialist to be powerful enough to control a DK. Fluder said something about Rigrit being able to do it, as a necromancer.

I want to read about Rigrit, She's a cool old lady.

>>146824189
Mare is the second strongest guardian, though.
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>>146824150
Basically it was about placement of SD on the chart. Someone was insisting it's lower level than Gagaran since she said she could won against it. Others tried pointing out she has magic items, preptime and SD is strong against mages.

>>146824189
>Mare isn't the second strongest guardian.
LN literally says he is.
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>>146824202
>>146824254
The strongest guardian is Gargantua and the second strongest is Shalltear.
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>>>>146824254
It'll be impossible to know what level the Skeletal Dragon is because its main distinguishing feature seems to be magic resist up to T6 but that's almost certainly just a racial feature.
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>>146824202
>cool old lady
Old lady that can match Brain in fight.
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>>146824460
She kicked Brain's and EE's ass, to be precise. And she talks to PDL like an equal.
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>>146824460
>>146824480

Reminded me it is her that beat up EE and forced her to join BR.
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>>146824480
>>146824460
>>146824778
>>146824202
>Rigrit
What chances of her being a player?
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>>146824914
zero
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>Sebas

Speaking of Sebas, was it Sebas that brought Tsuare to window shopping or it was Narberal that volunteer to bring her there.
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>>146824914
PDL knew players. He didn't count Rigrit as one.

>>146824935
Tsuare and Sebas went fumbling around awkwardly on a date while Narberal went jiiiii~ and followed them.
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>>146824914

Maybe descendant of a player, maybe NPC, if we wanna "push it"
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>>146824914
Nil.

Otherwise PDL wouldn't be so dumb and ask her to investigate possible Yggdrasil leftover item intel.

But since she has beaten her natural lifespan she is 110% certified to be very interesting character like Fluder and EE are.

Can't wait for the first chapter that's told from her pov as she either roams around at PDL's behest or is intrigued by the appearance of a necromancer higher rank to her.

She'd probably lose herself over the Crypt Lord at E-Rantel, trying to lick its boots or otherwise contain her excitement.
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>>146824935
>tfw setting up the kissing booth with Sebas in Re-Estize would make Ainz rich in less than week
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>>146825127
Sebas is pure!He doesnt do lewd stuff like that.
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>>146825063
>trying to lick its boots or otherwise contain her excitement
That's something most wizards in NW do. Just imagine what happens with Ulbert's wand in Magician's Guild.
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>>146825127
Why not prostitute meidos or at least POP female npc?
I doubt Nazarick have none and Ainz wouldn't mind if it's POP at the very least he can summon some cheapass mercenaries or use Vampire Brides.
>>146825063
>Rigrit
>Crypt Lord
Taking all things into consideration - she shouldn't be too far below 70lvl.
No reason for her to admire CL.

Kingdom outlawed brothels so I think this business would be profitable.
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>>146825285
Flud admired Narberal too tough.
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>>146825285
If she can't cast 6th tier then everything above will make her wet. Also high level undead she haven't seen before.
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I wonder what race was used to make the lvl 70+ undeads.
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>>146825063
Rigrit apparently mastered a successful version of the long life ritual Fluder devised.
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>>146825399
lv 70 humans
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>>146825442
I don't think so.
She's getting older so she probably used some kind of necromany to extend her lifespan.
Fluder botched the immortality ritual.
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>>146825063
While I too think that Rigrit being a player is impossible, I think PDL is okay with players as long as they are not bad people.
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>>146824301
> 1 Shalltear: Considered strongest because of her over all abilities.

> 2 Mare: He excels in devastating area attacks.

> 3 Cocytus: His skill and ability with weapons.

> 4 Sebas: Excels in hand-to-hand combat.

> 5 Albedo: She has the strongest defense.

> 6 Aura: She is strongest in group battles.

> 7 Demiurge: In his third form, the most wicked Form of the Devil in Ainz Ooal Gown. He is strongest in a manly way.

This is provided in Emissary of the King. I understand where you're coming from with Gargantua being the strongest but he isn't counted in this list because he's an exception.
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>>146825580
> 4 Sebas: Excels in hand-to-hand combat.
> wow it's fucking nothing

Sebas is like the champion of paralympics.
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>>146825676
There's some advantages in going hand to hand in a game system where equipment damage (Sundering) exists. Herohero neutralized enemy weapons and armor, right? Can't neutralize someone's fists.
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>>146825676
Sebas has slightly lower attack than Cocytus and slightly lower defense than Albedo but he beats them in total physical atributes.
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>>146825676
>Unarmed
>not top tier
I bet you like katanas too, you faggit.
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>>146824995
>>146825127

Narberal probably went around thinking Tsuare as some insect and how unworthy of her boss.

>Ainz and Demi's plan to get Sebas laid might have worked. But Narberal is cock blocking.

They should have sent Lupu instead.
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>>146825676
Sebas is stronger than Shalltear in his heteromorphic form (stated somewhere in the Ainz Ooal Gown full ranking, NPC and guild members included). Him being a monk would be perfect since in his true form, he won't be wielding weapons or donning armor anyway.
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>>146825748
Just cut them off.
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>>146825748
>>146825780
>>146825807
If he's strong unarmed, he would be even stronger with a weapon.
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>>146825828
>Lupu
You mean the cucking master?
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>>146825676
Well, that's how it was written in the translation. It just means that being a monk he's strongest in hand-to-hand combat.
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>>146825865
If your fist count as +5 weapon you don't want to use +3 longsword without special attacks.
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What if Shalltear catches Lupus talking behind her back like she often does?
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>>146825911
Or you do because slashes are more lethal than punches, not to mention range.
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>>146825954
That's not always true, and to a martial artist who doesn't know how to use a sword his fists are going to be superior.
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>>146825954
>punches
It's more like hitting someone with metal clubs.
Range is shit with high level techniques. Both Sebas and Cocytus can destroy shit yards away with "melee" attacks.
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>>146825954
That's RL logic. In games and shit your body becomes a weapon that is superior to a sword.

Of course a sword exponent learns sword skills that make him superior to a regular sword wielder...
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>>146825580
didnt ainz mention that PA has the potential to be the most powerfull? he can just swap between like every supreme beings or other guardians to counter any foe. too bad hes a fedora meme.
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>>146825954
Yeah, not when there's armor in the way. And since Monks in the LN can make their arms as strong as steel they don't need to be afraid of getting them cut. And if they can shorten the distance, the weapon's reach would become a hindrance.
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>>146825859
There's no rules for sundering body parts in 3.5. The only severance rule at all is the Vorpal enchantment, which severs necks when attack rolls land on 20.

>>146825865
>>146825954
If your fists deal 3d10+5 per hit, switching to a 1d8 nonmagical sword will hinder you far, far more.
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>>146826090
>if they can shorten the distance
That's funny because in the only proper fight between a monk and a fighter the latter one had problems with distance.
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>>146826074
Pandora's Actor isn't actually a floor guardian. He's an area guardian (of the treasury), on the hierarchy he's below them.
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>>146826074
This list was for floor guardians though. So, no Gargantua, Rubedo or PA. Though it is implied that PA is among the strongest ones specifically because he can adopt any of the 41 SBs' stats except for HP, MP and Special. Plus his intelligence is on par with Demi and Albedo.
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>>146826152
But then Sebas just had to come and turn the fight in another Nazarekt episode.
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>>146826215
Miko is an area guardian but is stronger than shalltear.Just give PA the equip of the former members and all is fine.
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>>146826248
Gargantua is an actual floor guardian, but its nature as an automata means it's less of a "person" and more of a "siege weapon", basically.
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>>146826152
If you're talking about Brain vs Zero, it should be noted that Eruya had some kind of air slash technique too.

>>146826215
>>146826248
PA's true strength is his ability to revitalize the flagging strength of E-Rantel and create a Nazareich that will last a thousand years. SIEG AINZ!
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>>146826248
Gargantua is a floor gurdian. He's not an NPC though.
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>>146826008
A barely competent person with a sword can easily kill a champion martial artist, just like a housewife can kill its strong husband with a kitchen knife.

Weapons are lethal. More so than fists.

>>146826042
Range as in I can attack you before you reach me, and keep being outside your range of attack while keeping you in mine.

This is demonstrated in Sebas judgment. He was in Cocytus range, but Cocytus wasn't on his, so Cocytus had the advantage.

>>146826090
>And if they can shorten the distance
If they shorten. It's another thing to overcome, while the other person with superior range does not need to overcome this. The speed the hands traval it's always superior to the speed of the feet travel. There's a reason polearms always dominated war.

If both are equal in footwork, then the one with the bigger range has an advantage. That's basic combat.

>>146826147
That's not a fair comparison. If you have access to a 3d10+5 sword and your fist does the same damage, the sword has advantaged because it can deal three types of damage (slash, thrust, impact) while having range advantage.
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>>146826322
>That's not a fair comparison. If you have access to a 3d10+5 sword and your fist does the same damage, the sword has advantaged because it can deal three types of damage (slash, thrust, impact) while having range advantage.
Only Daggers have variable damage in D&D. Bastard Swords and Longswords always do Slashing and Shortswords always do Piercing. Furthermore, none are Reach weapons and so have the exact same range as a fist, 5 feet.
You are thinking in real world terms, not game terms.
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>>146826322
>If you have access to a 3d10+5 sword and your fist does the same damage, the sword has advantaged because it can deal three types of damage (slash, thrust, impact) while having range advantage.
That's not a fair comparison either. You're basically saying "If I gave my sword all the damage of the fist while letting it keep all the advantages of being a sword, the sword is better."

Well, no shit, Sherlock. What our friend is trying to say is that monks in games train to do more damage than regular swords and making them use a regular sword is a downgrade because they can't use their field of expertise.
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>>146826298
>>146826301
Yeah, I know that. I just didn't explain it in this specific way.
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>>146826322
You still think "realistically". Monk can channel his Ki energy into his hand to make his fist hit like truck, but the rules say he can't do the same while holding a weapon. Unless it's a specialized Monk weapon, maybe.
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>>146826322
>If both are equal in footwork, then the one with the bigger range has an advantage. That's basic combat.
Monk has an advantage in footwork. Even bigger if his opponent is wearing heavy armor.
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>>146826396
Well that's a pretty retarded system.

Why would you ever use a two-handed weapon like a longsword if you have no range advantage.

>>146826433
>>146826513
But if they did the same amount of training with a sword they would be way better with them because of the innate advantage.
Imagine like this.

A fistfighter starts causing 5 damage.
A swordfighter starts causing 10 damage.

Let's pretend they gain 20% damage for every one year they train.
In your example, the fistfighter trained for 10 years, getting 30 damage.
but the swordfighter trained for 5 years, getting 24 damage.

Of course in this case the fists do more damage, because more effort was put into them, but if the same effort is put in both weapons, then the swordfighter goes to 61 damage and it's better than the fistfighter, for the same amount of training.

>>146826574
That's not true at all. Fencing has just as much as footwork as any martial art.
>Even bigger if his opponent is wearing heavy armor.
Heavy armor doesn't make you slow, it makes you tire faster and overheat.
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>>146826637
>That's not true at all.
Like someone already said, stop comparing rl things.
Monks in fantasy settings are faster, stronger and more durable than others.
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>>146826637
It ends up being more like:

Monk trains for 20 years, his fist goes from 1d6 to 2d10 damage and can hit 6 times.

Sword guy trains for 20 years, his sword goes from 2d6 to 2d6+4 damage and can hit 4 times.

They don't improve at the same rate, they aren't the only abilities being improved, they are not comparable beyond the fact that the fighter and monk would be fucked if they had to fight outside their areas of expertise.

And of course magic btfos them both.

>>146826749
but but muh RAELIZARMS
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>>146826637
>Why would you ever use a two-handed weapon like a longsword if you have no range advantage.
D&D Longswords are one handed. Bastard Swords are optionally one-handed too, but it requires Exotic weapon proficiency. (They're standard Martial weapons with two hands.) Only Greatswords require two hand usage.
And the reason is for a normal person, an unarmed strike is a mere 1 damage. No dice at all, it is 1 damage. Nonlethal damage that provokes an Attack of Opportunity, even, if you don't have the Improved Unarmed Strike feat. Going unarmed is the height of stupidity.. for anyone except Monks, a handful of Monk-like classes, and Swordsages (unarmed variant). They get special progression on their fists that make them equal to Daggers to begin with, and progressing up to beyond Greatsword quality. With the right feats they can choose to deal Piercing or even Slashing with their unarmed strikes, too.
Unarmed Swordsages are unequivocally the best, being able to perform all kinds of magic ninja bullshit with their bare hands.
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>>146826637
Dude, it works off D&Disms, where a weapon gives you 1dX damage, the same as an appropriately trained fist. Also, monks can channel qi/ki/whatever which gives them additional effects, which cannot be replicated without expensive gear. Also he's a fucking dragon, hence an unarmed style would work best when he goes full heteromorph
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>>146826814
You forgot arcane swordsages.
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>>146826637
Let's say a monk catches the weapon with his steel hand/hands that can't be destroyed by simply turning the blade around (if his grip even let's the weapon user to move the weapon). What now?
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>>146826884
Does he then see through Kyoka Suigetsu?
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>>146826866
Arcane Swordsage doesn't get unarmed strike progression, I don't think. They just get spells instead of maneuvers, so their bare fists are still 1 nonlethal (without Improved Unarmed Strike)
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>>146826961
IIRC the arcane bit replaced the maneuver progression while the unarmed bit replaced weapon proficiencies. So combine the two and you could get a kung fu wizard.
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>>146826906
Yes, and in his enlightenment he sees that titty monsters were the best thing about Bleach while Gin was the best boy.

And once again it's proven that a hand>muh katana.
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Overlord threads are evolving.

Now it is about D&D rules of unarmed vs armed.
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>>146827075
I only discovered this series thanks to /tg/ so yeah.
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>>146827075
/tg/ is the thread that binds 4chan together
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>>146826884
The weapon user has the advantage because he has more leverage. Also weapons travel at extremely high speeds, to be able to catch it you would have to higly overpower the other person which at this point it doesn't matter anymore.

>>146826795
>>146826814
>>146826749
Yeah I get that, this going off on a tangent.

My point is, fistfighting isn't as impressive as being a Tank or a Swordfighter at very high level, because while strong fists are good in the beggining, they give diminishing returns in the long run.

Sure the guy with his fists can break a wall and has a body as strong as steel. Meanwhile the knight guy has a Flaming Vorpal Moonlight Holy Blade of Destruction +10 that can level a city while wearing Heavy Indestructible Adamantium Armor of I-can-Bounce-Around-Like-a-Fairy +10 that can survive a nuke.
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>tfw it's more than a month to the next fresh content
>but Overlord threads already reach bumplimit daily
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>>146827070
LIke many things, it depends. IIRC Albedo > Sebas > Cocytus > Albedo. Their advantage is a subjective thing, probably so the outcome is more in doubt and Maruyama can asspull the conclusion he wants.

>>146827187
But the stuff you mentioned isn't the swordfighter getting better, it's just his gear.

Now, if you mentioned that the swordfighter can automatically counterattack anyone who swings at him 6 times (see: Jack B Quick) or hit hard enough to one-shot a god (see: Uberchargers) you'd have a point.
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>>146827187
The Monk is more adaptable, is a better generalist and is harder to hit, the fighter has strong but unadaptable equipment and overall is tougher due to armour. But then you give all the monk bonuses to a fucking dragon, who gets nothing from weapons or armour. Thats what gives you the unholy rapetrain equalled only by a Cleric or druid powerbuild
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>>146827187
You're entering the bullshit shounen fantasy tier here.
In this case monk will be Saitama.
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>>146827303
It's like giving the Druid a monk's belt, suddenly he can add his huge Wisdom (for casting divine spells) to his AC and improve his unarmed strike routine (and add that to his natural attack routine).

Sasuga Voltron.
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>>146827187
>My point is, fistfighting isn't as impressive as being a Tank or a Swordfighter at very high level, because while strong fists are good in the beggining, they give diminishing returns in the long run.
But they don't in D&D.
A level 30 Warblade might end up wielding a +10 Keen Vorpal Adamantine Greatsword of Ousidersdread (Godslaying), but a level 30 Unarmed Swordsage would easily have +10 Keen Vorpal Adamantine Unarmed Strikes without paying a single gold piece. They're down one (potent) enchantment, but the base damage of the greatsword is still 2d6, whereas the Unarmed Strike is 2d10, and the price of that legendary supersword would easily total several million GP. (And it's actually the worse weapon, unless you're facing Outsiders.)
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>>146827332
It's not that bullshit. The monk is balanced to be the equivalent of an armed warrior with the stats of a human being, when you let him turn into a fucking bear he will KUMAAAA the shit out of everyone.
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>>146827276
But getting better gear is part of becoming a better swordfighter, as it is a gear based class.

The muscles of the Monk can be impressive, but they'll never be as impressive as the gear the swordfighter can get. Because they can never equip gear, he'll never be as impressive as a knightlike class, or even a mage that can also benefit from gear, while having a power that escalates even highter than fighter based classes.

>>146827303
>But then you give all the monk bonuses to a fucking dragon, who gets nothing from weapons or armour
Who says so? If a dragon is strong without a sword. It'll be stronger with a sword, because the sword is a lever for his strenght.
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>>146827398
I meant that we're talking about 'normal' fantasy shit like weapons with increased damage or chance to crit not the uberkatanas of destruction that can cut the Moon in half.
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>>146827396
Well that's straight up a broken and unfair system.
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>>146827414
>The muscles of the Monk can be impressive, but they'll never be as impressive as the gear the swordfighter can get
D&D accounts for this, you know.
You can have an Amulet of Mighty Fists to make your hands into powerful magic weapons.
You can learn Ki Strike feats to give your unarmed strikes magical enchantments, up to and including the legendary Vorpal enchantment.
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>“N-no, that’s not it. The Sorcerous Kingdom’s emissary-sama says she wants to meet you, Renner-sama!”
>“Is it a lady?”
>“Yes, a very beautiful lady!”
>Renner’s question should have been strange, because there was only one woman among the envoys from the Sorcerous Kingdom.
>If someone pressed the point, they might wonder what she was on about.
>However, the maid was currently confused, and answered in earnest.
Did she meant Demi just to kek over clueless maid?
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>>146827476
They're pretty balanced in execution. A Warblade can whip out a bow and arrow to kick ass at long range, whereas a Swordsage will need to burn a turn using a maneuver equivalent of Air Walk to approach enemies in the sky, and then close whatever distance "on foot" as it were.
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>>146827490
That's not fistfighting.

That's cheating.
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>>146827472
Ah yes. Well yeah. I personally feel that >>146827414 is weakening his case when he says fighters are "gear dependent" because handing out extra gear is the number one way for a GM to bring weaker characters in line with the rest of the group. It's basically admitting "Yeah, you suck, have some extra loot so you can actually be useful".

Also, he's approaching the matter from the wrong angle, but let's not belabor that point. I will say that you can give monks Power Fists, Gauntlets, Handwraps or other "unarmed" weapons to basically make them a differently-flavored weapon user, though.
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>>146827526
Her question was stupid because she knew emissary was a woman.
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>>146827414
>>But then you give all the monk bonuses to a fucking dragon, who gets nothing from weapons or armour
>Who says so? If a dragon is strong without a sword. It'll be stronger with a sword, because the sword is a lever for his strenght.
But a dragon cannot use a sword, it lacks the ability to use the sword as a lever, while emphasising the strengths of a dragon involves its tremendous strength and power. Its hands have swords attached, its skin is already harder than any armour, its tail can bash down gates.
>>146827577
and using your +10 vorpal bullshit sword isnt?
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>>146827526
Isn't it just about the fact she knows the emissary's gender?
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>>146827577
Dude, if the fighter gets gear, the monk gets gear too. Their gear is just self-buffs usually.
Unless the monk decided to hamstring himself with the Vow of Poverty feat (trap), but even if they did that, they get magical fists naturally! It's a terrible idea.
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>>146827526
Renner was acting dumb to troll the maid. She does that to make them underestimate her.
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>>146827649
>>146827599
Isn't because I have to buy/make the sword, it can be lost, stolen or break.
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>>146827589
>>146827608
Oh, it's just that.

I wonder if Climb will ever be in surprise danger enough for Renner drop the facade and spring into action.
Whatever race change item she got - it bound to have battle potential decent enough by NW standards.
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>>146827584
Everyone is "gear dependent".
Monk can still wear magic items. It's just that this will be "Magic shirt of something" instead of "Magic armor +5 of something" and it doesn't matter because he has +5 by being a monk.
Only real advantage of a fighter is that he can get a gear that is above his level.
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>>146827649
VoP is actually good in one instance, when the GM screws you out of gear, since VoP is entirely internal. Yeah, you won't be as good as the guy who can cherry pick his stuff, but hell, when you have no stuff to pick from, you're better off with VoP's bonuses.

>>146827691
I don't think so. Remember, she WANTS Climb to be killed so she has an excuse to naughty nurse him.
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>>146827681
And a thief cant steal your monk amulets/rust insects eat your shinguards/another monk sunder your headband?
Its like im really in /tg/
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>>146827681
A monk can have their Amulet of Mighty Fists and Cloak of Epic Resistance stolen too. It's just a bit harder.
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I'll probably get crucified by /tg/ but my only experience with D&D is /v/ like Neverwinter Nights.
The monk is shabby class there early on but it grows exponentially into OP with more reaction shots than the number of opponents that could possibly swarm character simultaneously.
Whatever elemental damage necessary atop of class-related magical damage is acquired through items like gloves.
The dex based AC was also unreachable by any other character I used with an exception of some heavy tanks who lost inadequatly in DPM and maneuver cost (while AC was still comparable).
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>>146827894
>Neverwinter Nights
OP prestige builds bring some nice memories.
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>>146827894
EH, NWN doesn't follow D&D exactly.

The idea is that all classes should be fun to play and it seems the NWN monk can at least do its job.
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>“Is that so… Albedo-sama’s a woman too, so maybe it’s girl talk… is it about makeup?”
Mother of trolling
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>>146828037
For some reason, Renner's performance in v10 made me want to savagely impregnate her.
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>>146825577
Same, otherwise PDL wouldn't have wished for t-0 Nazarick to be "positive, like the 2 heroes from then" but he was skeptical after battling auto-mode Shalltear and her karma.
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>>146827894
NWN and NWN2 are much more balanced than 3.5 is naturally. Monks trip over themselves and die, their base stat spread is too wide and their abilities are too weak. They're easily the bottom of core classes, weaker than even NPC classes.
Unarmed Swordsages are cool and strong and whatever, but they're not core, they're from the Tome of Battle splatbook that came out near the end of 3.5's life, which was intended to rebalance the broken core classes. (Warblade is a rebalanced Fighter, for example.)
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>>146815661
>>146820415
>EE fights 1on1 and the others support her

GG pleiades
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>>146828100
Honestly, you can't blame PDL, his only experience with players before the 13 Heroes was the 8 Greed Kings.
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>>146828143
Would not work with Narberal s op spells and her teleport.
Remember how she got through 2 skeletal dragons and still killed the bald monkey?
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>>146828143

A huge depends. Location matters.
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>>146828207
Nobody can blame him for that indeed. At least he still shows caution and doubt even if he's a dragon.
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EE S teammates against Narberal would just be a burden since EE would not be able to use her most powerful spells while Narberal s aoe would just kill them all .
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>>146828207
The most powerful of the Six Gods lived until the 8GK, so that one had to be there at least.
But he was a fearsome "death god" so perhaps that wasn't the best impression.
Do you think they never made the connection that the Boastful Sage was a player?
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>>146826322
>A barely competent person with a sword can easily kill a champion martial artist, just like a housewife can kill its strong husband with a kitchen knife.
Literally not true. Most martial arts actually have specific ways to deal with people wielding weapons.
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>>146792912
You see... He'd be like one of the Yonkos, he'd have no bounty because the amount of money you could have by killing him would be equivalent to a planet full of money.
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>>146828062
I wonder how far she has planned on keeping the facade up and if she has any contingency plans if Climb were ever to lose his "pure eyes" pre-maturely before she receives her second reward from Papa Ainz.

And really, the shittiest off in the Kingdom are Blue Rose. It's their home country and they have no real ties to it in the long run.

Climb belongs to Renner and Renner joins Nazarick. Brain is a free spirit that goes where he wants but what will the chuuni party do when Kingdom gets annexed?

They have no real leverage and a puny favor of Water God on Chuuni-o hardly helps. Will they leave Kingdom or will they try to follow Momon's footsteps?

These pretty much the only routes for them unless they flee the country. Even with chuuni fever I doubt they would really try to attack Nazarick.
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>>146828678
Evileye has a massive ladyboner for Momon-sama. Also, depending on when exactly they annex the Kingdom, if the Sorcerous Kingdom is already clearly good for humanity they might just join up with Ainz, it'll facilitate their mission to protect humanity and let them become True® Adventurers™
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>>146828530
I doubt it, Boastful Sage was more of a kooky demihuman than Alexander the Great. SO he passed under their radar, if nothing else.

>>146828530
Well, the 6GG may not have been that nice to nonhumans either. Remember, they came to the NW when humanity was being bullied by everyone and they probably didn't care for good intentions or whatnot from the dragons. Not saying that they hunted the dragons, but if a dragon sees one of the 6GG nuking a goblin village, he's probably not going to take the time to find out that the goburins were killing and eating the nearby human villagers with their ogre allies, and so on.
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>>146828678
Well, they might actually try to take Ainz up on his adventurer recruitment offer. Momon is already there; he could try to appeal to them. It would be a huge feather in Ainz's cap to get Blue Rose to pledge allegiance to him, and they would be living testimonials that the Sorcerous Kingdom isn't an enemy of life.
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>>146828783
I'd say there's still enough turmoil in the annexation that they would happily run to E-Rantel or not make any moves for Renner.

Depends of course how badly the plan is on violence instead of elegance and if they manage to meet up with Momon before the whole ordeal.

Would be great if EE decided to go and see Momon before the plan is a go and Momon decides to "rescue" parts of the Kingdom from the upheaval while the rotten parts are destroyed by Albedo/Demi/8F in the backstage.
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>>146828678
>Water God
Who?
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>>146828906
Lakyus worships the Water God.
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>>146828906
One of the bullshit colored "entities" Lakyus gets her divine powers from for being a cleric.
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>>146828906
A god of water. Kind of like that Fire God the paladin of Raeven's former orichalcum adventurers worshipped, only the exact opposite.
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>>146828954
>>146828958
>>146828993
Thanks, I forgot it was mentioned.
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>Incidentally, there were no women among the scribes. The only woman who Jircniv trusted to handle this sort of work was one of his concubines.
>Mom died making sandwich
>Women are drawn to strong men
I start to suspect Maruyama in chauvinism.
Yet another strong point!
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>>146829105
It's japanese culture really.
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>>146829105
>historically acurate medieval setting
>accidents happen
>objectively true statement
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>>146829256
It's not like Maruyama doesn't have stronk women, he doesn't sprinkle them in like "progressive" Western literature.
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>>146829307
George R Martin making girls rulers of literally every country excluding zombie faction made me drop it.
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>>146829307
I don't mind stronk women. I just can't stand if those stronk women are stronk because they are women.
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>>146829374
I would think that's cuz males dropped like flies due to war and conspiracies.
Females are often spared cuz fertile noble womb.
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>>146829419
The girls were the ones killing their husbands in most cases.
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>>146829397
Vagina can take a beating
Balls can't
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>>146829105
Maruyama specifically has Brain say that there's literally nothing wrong with strong womyn because they worked for it too. The first statement is more of Jircniv's own bias while the last statement is biological fact.
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>>146829450
My memory is getting shabby.
Apart from blond - who else killed their husband?
Also blond did not do so out of spite, but out of pity.
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>>146829519
>blond
Dany? She has platinum hair.
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>>146829519
Oh, the incest-san too.
How could I forget?
But they're nobles.
I think medieval europe has a lot of fine examples of this too.
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>>146829576
Platinum blond is still a blond though.
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>>146829459
Then why are pussies afraid of being beaten up?
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>>146829515
Also, you have to consider that Jircniv chooses concubines for beauty, not brains. He has one smart concubine, his favorite, in fact, but she doesn't want to become his wife because she feels Jircniv needs a pretty wife.

>>146829397
Pretty much.
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>>146829515
Would you a Virgin Slayer?
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>>146829709
Young Gagaran is hot as fuck, but I lost the doodle.
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>>146829668
That's just society brainwashing, they actually all crave it
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>>146829578
You forgot the sandniggers, they killed all the male royals so they could get their revenge on the Lannisters .
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>>146829728
Have it somewhere but too much stuff in my overlord folder. Aniway it looked a bit like this.
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>>146829794
That wasn't GRRM though, that was the show. Which is trash and does a fair bit of the whole >Wymen thing.

In the books its better
>Read novels
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>>146829419
>>146829450
>>146829519
>>146829578
>>146829794
>>146829862
Pretty much yeah, the show fucked up and murdered all the good male characters and handed everything to the women on a plattered.
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What's Enri's next few arcs going to be?

Going to the Dragon Kingdom with Cocytus and the lizards?

>>146829889
Show fucks up on a lot of stuff. The good guys are too good and the bad guys to bad.

Jon is basically Manlet Aragon at this point and Dany is female Jesus.
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>>146792187
No flesh, no muscle, no ligaments, just bones.
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