Dragon Ball Super

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>>146703940
Justify the existence of ningen to these two or they throw it at your waifu.

Zamasu is a GodTube cam slut

>>146704039
I'm sweet like tea with honey! Don't kill me, Zamasu-sama

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Don't forget, the real identity of Black.

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>>146703940

M-MAI

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>>146704105

What's Mai doing here guys?

>>146704112
Maybe Zamasu hates Ningen because he doesn't understand the plot of Eva

>>146704105
naughty trunks fingering mai in front of his dad, kids these days are so rebellious

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>>146704039
how can dbs animators can even compete?

>>146704173
They stopped competing a long time ago.

>>146704166
>fingering
His two hands are holding her legs, anon.

>>146704173
>animatiors
Hell Toyble can't even compete.

>>146703940
template?

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>>146704163

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>>146704246

>>146704105
That's not the place nor time to be doing that.

>>146704039
They're here to be exterminated by Zamasu, of course.

Dragon Ball Super Kai when

>>146704282
That's what makes it hot, silly anon.

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>>146704105
TURANKSU

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I wonder if Zamasu read Schopenhauer

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>>146704045

>>146704391
>not watching that for the futa scenes

Gowasu, please.

How are they going to beat them?

>asspulls
>take Beerus and Whis with them to the future
>fusion
>Goku says fuck it, and calls Zeno with the button

>>146704391
I'm surprised no one has done a Boku no Pico edit yet to be honest.

>>146704381
>reading ningen crap

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>>146704391

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>>146704484
i was doing it

>>146704166
"Fingering"

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.>>146704543
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>146704202
top panel, desu

>>146704543

No wonder Zamasu is so fucked in the head.

Do you think Gowasu touched Zamasu when he was a child?

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>>146704792
DELET THIS

>>146704792
Na, Gowasu isn't that type of person. He just picked up Boku no Pico as a reccommendation from a friend.

>>146704792
yes, he did even more than that, that's why he joked about "fusing" back on planet babari

ZAMASU

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>>146704905
>Just watch them and MAKE SURE NOBODY IS AROUND YOU WHEN WATCHING IT!

>>146704905
He picked it up because of Zamasu.
It was the thing that pushed him over the edge and convince him that every ningen is filthy.

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>heh, i can do that too

Do not defame Gowasu, he is a pure hearted and kindly old man who only sees the good in people.

>>146703940
So it seems Trunks is able to use some form of SS2 Full Power, like Gohan and Goku did with SS1 against Cell.

Will we ever get to see a Full Power SS3? Like, no flashy blue sparkling, no aura, white hair instead of gold, and so on...

That sounds too cool to ever happen though doesn't it.

>>146705041
which new attack from goku and trunks did black learn this time?

>>146705052
lies that's Zamasu. Gowasu doesn't give fuck about the suffering that takes for filthy ningen to progress

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>>146705041
FAST

>>146705106
FAINARU

FURAAAAASHU

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>Zamasu did what frieza couldn't and gain immortality through the dragon balls

I wonder what Future Whis, Future Kabito and Future King Kai are up to

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>>146704222
>Hell Toyble can't even compete.
Nice joke anon.

>>146705220
Someone edit the cat in the zoom in to Gowasu.

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>>146705041
Black only getting stronger and learning more stuff
We'll probably get little of him next ep though.. if at all

>>146705243
Nigga what?
Toyble is lacking so much detail by comparison.

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>>146704173
>tracers

>>146705201
> Future Whis
unknown what he did after Future Beerus kicked the bucket
>Kabito
dead used as a meat shield along with Future supreme Kai
>the regular kai
probably killed by zamasu for being a nigen lover like he did with his master

>>146705293
Is this manga where only fighting happens and hardly any story?

>>146705331
>unknown what he did after Future Beerus kicked the bucket
That reminds me. Why did Beerus die if Old Kai was still alive but stuck in the sword?

>>146705201
Kaiosama trains Goku all day every day.

Kibito is either dead or waiting all day on Kaioshin kai jobless.

Whis is waiting all day on his planet jobless until the day another Kaioshin takes on the job and he can get another god of destruction.

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>>146705375
he wasn't linked to the old fart he was linked to this weakling here.

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>>146705293
>>146705353
Don't know just skimming it.

Lads! Omni King doesn't have ears! That means he can't pataro fuse.

>>146705443
That's an odd as shit connection when you think about it.

>>146705375
Either he doesn't count since inside the sword doesn't count as being "on the job" or he died somehow maybe Kaioshinkai got destroyed by Dabura.

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>>146705509
tell me about it beerus agrees with you.

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>>146705118
Zamasu! give me some tea and let's enjoy human suffering with the magic ball, stop caring about others!

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http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Bal_Super_Manga_Power_Levels

>>146705509
It makes sense, that way an evil god of destruction can't just go and kill all kaioshin to stop creation.

>>146704105
Why is Trunks fingering Mai?

>>146705243
this looks terrible. not only is his head fucked up (i guess he was trying to do some tricky perspective but it really didn't work out), there's way less detail)

>>146705443
Black will go back to the past go instant transmission then break the kaioshin neck and bye bye beerus, hello old dragon ball z

>>146705640
They were horny.

>>146705640
Horny after abstinence

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>>146705615
>It makes sense
Not really, I mean why wasn't he connected to the Dai Kaio or at the very least this guy. He's literally the strongest Kai.

>>146705715
In the present, Trunks realizes how much he loves her. When he returns to his timeline, he's gonna give Mai a deep kiss.

>>146705775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg9v1S9g7Vk

>>146705752
Zen-o is an asshole, that's why

>>146704137
>shoving her hand inside his pants so naturally
F Mai isn't that pure anymore.

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>>146703940

>>146705103
Nah, wouldn't be cool, SSJ3 is as shitty as SSJ Third Grade just on a different scale.

>>146705897
For next time just say that SSJ3 is to ki what Third grade was to speed.

>>146705387
About Whis, I'm guessing they'll do what Z warriors brought a namekian from New Namek to become a God of Earth. But someone from another universe would probably be the best chance to get a Supreme Kai.

>>146705752
Presumably Beerus was/is connected to all current Kaioshin, 1 god of destruction who is OP so almost impossible to kill and a group of Kaioshin who are weak yet incredible strong for a ningen and since they are more than 1 there is a bigger chance for at least 1 survives until the god of destruction in charge takes care of the problem in time.

Of course now Beerus is fucked, but before there were 4 niggas to kill first to get worried.

Bibidi was pretty smart, he almost got Beerus killed.

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>>146705942
When Black talks about his origins in a flashback, that he's literally half Kaioshin or some shit.

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>>146705591
I don't even know how to read these numbers anymore.

>>146705880
T-Thanks, doc.

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>>146705942
nah. sorry anon

>>146705591
>enraged Vegeta
>being that high

Yeah no.

>>146705974
>1 god of destruction who is OP so almost impossible to kill
Beerus was the one who sealed up the Old Kai. Apparently he wasn't as strong then as he was now and he was nearing Buu.

If that's the case then he certainly wasn't unkillable to begin with.

>>146705942
Fun fact: Funimation had this character voiced by the same lady who did young Gohan.

Anyone mind telling me the episode where future Supreme Kai is revealed to be dead? I remember Trunks saying he beat Dabura but nothing beyond that.

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>All chan cucks goku's kill

>>146705775
You mean fuck like mammals that's all there is to love

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reminder that these two should have relevance but never will and also they should have fucked

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>>146706351
This.

ZAMASU

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>>146704105
This ship is fucking killing me. After giving them some happiness they just break my heart again. Not fair.

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>>146706547
Everything will work out fine in the end, anon. Don't forget that F Mai will eventually get new clothes.

>>146705974
>>146705752
>>146705615
>>146705509
>>146705443
I think the whole 4 or 5 kaioshins thing is just retconned altogether. They weren't there for Universe 6, and they're not there for Zamasu's universe either.

>>146706439
please make this happen

>>146706643
>I think the whole 4 or 5 kaioshins thing is just retconned altogether.
Nah, otherwise Old Kai and Buu wouldn't make sense and neither would Supreme Kai meeting the Z fighters at all.

>>146706246
It was in the manga. The only thing the anime did was establish the fact that the god of destruction is linked to the kaioshin

>>146706200
Still pretty strong, apart from Buu the strongest ningen was Freeza, who was stronger than his father or Yakon and then a huge power gap to Ginyu.

Remember that the average citizen of U7 is a weakling, just avoid Buu for the time while Whis makes Beerus above him.

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>Saves Goku's retarded ass
>Spars with Black, kicks him into a wall
>Stabs Zamasu
>Final Flash even though he displayed no evidence of even knowing the technique before
>Able to fight on par despite only being SSJ2

How did he get so based, /a/?

>>146703940
POWER LEVELS ARE BULLSHIT. TRUNKS AS STRONG AS SSB

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So who's ready for best Boy to come back? and save the day?

>>146706630
>Le Mystere

The fuck is this? Has Toei become reddit?

>>146706883
It's a french translation you retard.

>>146706839
>being this retarded.
wew

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>>146704543
>>146704484

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>>146706883
It's from a French website dumbass.

>>146706839
Terrible writing.

>SS2 who gets knocked out in one attack by SS3/SSB goku

>Somehow can fight evenly with Black and the souped-up Zamasu

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>>146706839
I hope he trains to become SSB in the next episodes.

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Why didn't Goku just teleport with trunks away from Black's Kamehameha?

>>146706839
>based
>still hasn't fucked mai

Nope.

>>146706943
>>Somehow can fight evenly with Black
Except he can't.

>and the souped-up Zamasu
>souped up
Stop saying this, we have no idea how strong Zamasu has gotten in that amount of time. The only gauge we had before is that he was being beaten by Goku using SSJ2 while not as full power.

>>146706439
>Mai's face

How lewd.

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>>146706630
going green to match Trunks

>>146706994
He doesn't use teleport under pressure.

>>146706988
If he can fight Black at SS2 level, he would kill Whis as a SSB.

>>146707003
>Except he can't.
He did. Knocked him clean into the wall, like Goku did to Zamasu.
>stop saying this, we have no idea how strong Zamasu has gotten in that amount of time
Goku seems to be having more or less the same amount of difficulty with Zamasu as with Black, so it can be assumed they're close in powerlevel.

>>146706994
Too little time/can't concentrate enough, not the first time it happens to Goku.

>>146707041
He did with Cell multiple times and vegito did against Buu.

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>This entire fucking episode's choreography
Is Dragonball Super saved?

>>146707041
Yes he does.

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>>146707076

>>146707093
No, better animation than usual in one episode doesn't make up for the terrible animation everywhere else, much less for all the other huge problems super has.

but as much as I shit on Super, it wasn't bad at all. Nice and dynamic.

>>146707076
Not bad/10

>>146707073
>He did. Knocked him clean into the wall
Literally a surprise attack.
First he jumped into the fray when Black wasn't expecting it then increased his power in a split second.

>Goku seems to be having more or less the same amount of difficulty with Zamasu as with Black
I don't think you can really use Goku as an accurate gauge as he was already exhausted from fighting Black at that point. In fact I would go as far to say that Zamasu is significantly weaker than Black and Goku seeing as he never fought Goku directly without the assistance of Black.

>>146707073
>so it can be assumed they're close in powerlevel.

This is where you failed your reasoning.

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You dogs got a location with subs up?

>>146707176
Like I said in the other thread.
Add a to be continued.

>>146707093
Nah DBS won't be able to pull off another episode like this one for a while and Toei's characterization of Goku is still horrendous.

>>146704391

Is that Bible Black?

>>146707212
>Toei's characterization of Goku is still horrendous.
That's literally Goku to a T though. What have you been reading where he isn't that kind of goofball?

>>146707199
It's only been up a few hours, if any subs exist they're so shit they'd be harder to understand than the Japanese

>>146707167
>Literally a surprise attack.
No, retard, he did so after trading many blows with him. He traded blows with both black and Zamasu. Hell, he "killed" Zamasu with his sword.

>>146707167
>I don't think you can really use Goku as an accurate gauge as he was already exhausted from fighting Black at that point
Horseshit, because if that was the case, black would have just steamrolled him later, or steamrolled trunks when they traded blows.

>>146707187
Please do explain how a fighter having a similar performance against 2 other fighters doesn't logically indicate both other fighters are of a similar level of power.

>>146707212
He's been a lot more serious in the future though, he's even considerate to Mai and the survivors.

>>146704045
stop this is turning me on

>>146707091
I don't think Vegetto ever used shunkai idou unless it was filler, now obviously he knows it, but there was never any need against Buu.

But Goku can fail to teleport as seen when Kid Buu destroyed the earth and Goku just couldn't concentrate enough and got saved by Kaioshin.

>>146707204
before it got archived I was about to ask, provide me an example and I'll add it

>>146707246
>where he isn't that kind of goofball?

He wasn't "that kind" of a Goofball when he was 11, let alone at the end of Z. Goku in super is dangerously stupid. He reminds me of the actual brain damaged Goku from the spanish parody Dragon Fall.

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>>146704112
>>146704263
>>146704270
>>146704391
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>>146705124
>>146705880
>>146706922
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>>146707176

This exploitable is literally the best thing to come out of the episode.

>>146707246
>That's literally Goku to a T though.
No, it's not. Read the manga.

>>146707317
>But Goku can fail to teleport as seen when Kid Buu destroyed the earth
Because he had to try to teleport away from earth, anon. Goku has no issue teleporting close by. Hell he did it in the same fucking fight.

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>>146707330
I can do this all night

Never Forget!

POWER LEVELS ARE BULLSHIT!

>>146707278
>No, retard, he did so after trading many blows with him.
You can see the surprise on Black's face and Trunks powering up. After that he doesn't get anything else in on him.

>black would have just steamrolled him later
Like he did? Or did you forget that Goku was almost killed this episode along with Trunks and Vegeta?

>>146707246
Fuck off back to Dragon ball abridged retard.

>>146707380
True, it's just that they used to be mostly consistent bullshit.

>>146707246
goku stopped being a goof after freezer, i think db was in part deconstructing action movies and comics by having a guy (goku) disregarding trends and shit

>>146707374
Make one of 18 breaking his arm

>>146707336
Goku is literally that retarded in every part of the series. The only time he's ever smart is fighting and that's still in Super.

>>146707263
That's what I figure but thought I'd ask, oh well.

So who is Black, really? Zamasu says they're like-minded individuals, but they appear to only be working together to kill Goku (and squabbling over who gets to do it, at that). And Black keeps saying that he wants to fight Goku "in this body," implying that he has a different form.

Who else hates Goku and ningens so much?

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>>146707374
put this in it

>>146707431
Nope, only retard here is you. Read the manga.

>>146707391
>You can see the surprise on Black's face and Trunks powering up
No amount of powering up should put him on a level to surprise Black, who was fighting SSB's without trouble. The fact that he was not instantly crushed by Black was already fucking retarded.

>Like he did? Or did you forget that Goku was almost killed this episode along with Trunks and Vegeta?
After Zamasu immobilized them so they'd be forced to take Black's attack.
Goku at SS3/B could oneshot Trunks. Black is stronger than that. There's no match, trunks should not have stood a chance, let alone be able to trade blows for a while.

>>146707406
To be honest only the Cell saga made him smarter than he usually is. The Buu saga went right back to the normal retard however.

>>146707454
I think the spic subs are already out.

>>146707416
if you have the gif, I'll do it
>>146707463
alright, let me just finish one

>>146707459
idk freeza? dr gero?

>>146707431
What >>146707467 said.

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alright, now to take that request >>146707463
asked for

>>146707278
>Please do explain how a fighter having a similar performance against 2 other fighters doesn't logically indicate both other fighters are of a similar level of power.

Because you're removing every variable and instantly turning it into two theoretical potentials of an unknown quantity and saying hat they both appeared to be less than X, thus they must both be close to X.

Even Tien could land a sucker punch on someone and not melt just because someone looked at him. Also you're forgetting that dramatic presentation > ridged adherence and like a gorrilion other factors. The moment you have to say "this seemed to happen" is the moment you shouldn't be speculating and should be double checking what you think happened.

>>146707475
>The Buu saga went right back to the normal retard however.
No retard, read the manga.

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>>146707374
perhaps one for the gohan fags?

>>146707471

Trunks was trained by Vegeta, it's safe to asime he got stronger.

Besides this is DB, good and bad guys love to toy around and never fight seriously

>>146706943
zamasu is a weak fuck, he's just immortal now.

>>146707374
put Zamasu falling from the sky from previous episode

>>146707535
here it is
>>146707523

>>146707459
Captain Ginyu.

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>>146707483
From a google search

>>146707524
>Even Tien could land a sucker punch on someone
You're introducing variables that weren't there.
Goku was having a tough time fighting black. He had a similarly tough time fighting Zamasu. There's no surprise or luck or bullshit there.

>Also you're forgetting that dramatic presentation > ridged adherence
Super's all flash, no consistency.

>tfw the animation was really cool

neat

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>>146707523
heres another

>>146707553
if you have the gif, i'll add it

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>>146707523
One with this please

>>146707523
Make one with that infamous Super Shenlong growing animation.

>>146707546
>Trunks was trained by Vegeta, it's safe to asime he got stronger.
In a fucking day? Is he Frieza now?

>>146707549
His fistfight with Goku as a SSB proves otherwise. Goku never landed a hit that would need him to be immortal to resist.

>>146707093
nah, probably going to be a dip in quality until the finale in a month or two.

then they'll throw the whole budget at that and everyone will praise it like goku vs hit. just being realistic...

>>146707488
Freeza is the only one that makes sense to me, since he contemptuously referred to Trunks as a Saiyan when he was first introduced.

But that would be fucking retarded to have Freeza come back AGAIN.

>>146707580
>He had a similarly tough time fighting Zamasu.

He didn't start fighting Zamas, he started fighting black and then later on fought Zamas, you aren't usually fighting at full strength after being wailed on by someone.

I mean you go pick a fight with someone out of your weight class, get shat on and then immediately try picking a fight with someone below your weight class and tell me how that goes.

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>The reason Black knew about SSB is because he saw it on GodTub

Well that's....anticlimatic.

>>146707471
>No amount of powering up should put him on a level to surprise Black
You do realise what series you're talking about right? Anything that can cause a surprise can throw an opponent of any strength off balance long enough to at least put some distance between them and the opponent.

>The fact that he was not instantly crushed by Black was already fucking retarded.
Wouldn't be the first time that's happened in the series. At least this one has a decent reason behind it. For example Frieza vs Goku in ROF which ended in a similar situation to Black, Goku and Zamasu with Goku being exhausted enough to take a heavy hit.

>Goku at SS3/B could oneshot Trunks.
So now you're comparing Trunks pre training with Vegeta. To Goku who fought with Black to exhaustion.
I don't think you understand how this comparison thing works.

>>146706630
>>146706547
Doujin of Black mind-breaking Mai with his cock when?

>zamasu still sucks but hes immortal so he's an annoyance

wow

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>>146707523
If you want to.

>>146706742
Well, I mean that NOW Toriyama isn't considering that at all.

>>146707459

I think we'll get answers next episode, his techniques are similar to Zamasu's while he also has Goku's techniques.

There's still too many mysteries about him to say exactly what he is, the best guess would be he got another Zamasu to go along and go purge ningens with him in a fresh new body, but the thing is it's like Zamasu and Goku meshed into a single being with Zamasu's mindset and knowledge but Goku's desires and personality leak out with his desire to fight and how he approaches fights, and if you just inhabit a body it doesn't mean you get to learn it's techniques.

>>146707625
>He didn't start fighting Zamas, he started fighting black and then later on fought Zamas, you aren't usually fighting at full strength after being wailed on by someone.
No, he fought Zamasu for a decent time before black interrupted. He was not gaining the upper hand at all, so at worst we can say Zamasu was on equal terms with Goku in fighting power.

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>>146707669
back in my day we had a way of getting rid of immortal beings

>>146707336
>telling someone else to read the manga when you think Goku was ever anything more than a retard that only cared about fighting
Even in the android saga he was more concerned about fighting the androids than doing the smart thing and destroying them first.
Then there's the part where he forgets most of what Trunks says right after talking with him.

Don't forget about the Buu saga that made him extra retarded by "giving everyone a chance to fight".

>>146707644
>You do realise what series you're talking about right? Anything that can cause a surprise can throw an opponent of any strength off balance long enough to at least put some distance between them and the opponent.
He didn't "put some distance". He traded blows with Black for a good long while. Remember, Goku literally knocked him out in a single attack as a measely SS3.

>>146707644
>Wouldn't be the first time that's happened in the series.
>For example Frieza vs Goku in ROF which ended in a similar situation to Black, Goku and Zamasu with Goku being exhausted enough to take a heavy hit.
This is like Piccolo had tried to fight Frieza after he went golden and didn't get instantly taken out, and traded attacks. It's that stupid.

>>146707677
No, again, you go take a beating then try fighting someone weaker than you. You won't win. Also you know, it's easy to block without taking damage when you're incapable of taking damage.

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>>146707667
doubt we'll get any new doujin of this arc before it ends

>>146707722
Could Tenshinhan get a chance to shine again?
Nah probably not.

>>146707727
Having wrong priorities is not the same as having subnormal mental faculties like he's displaying in DBS.

In the Buu Saga he was trying to forge a successor because he was dead. That's putting his selfish fighting lust behind other priorities, which he's literally unable to do in Super because he's a fucking retard.

>>146707756
Maybe for the Kikoho, apart from that he's gonna be a background character

>>146707730
>No, again, you go take a beating then try fighting someone weaker than you
If Black was actually strong enough to have noticeably lowered goku's fighting potential as much as you're pretending he did, 2 things would happen:

1) Goku would be instantly dead as soon as he traded blows with Black again
2) Trunks would be instantly dead as soon as he traded Blows with Black the first time.

Neither of those things happened. Goku was not particularly beat up or tired until he was forced to take Black's Kamehameha head on.

Which, also idiotically, Trunks survived just as well as SSB Goku.

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>>146707596
I have this one

>>146707766
Or maybe that's not the theme of super so it's retarded to keep talking about it?

You're just going on about why isn't the story and focus totally different, his son didn't want to fight, he's not exactly got a short amount of time where he and vegeta will be around because Saiyans. He can wait for Goten to be older if he decides to fight or not, and you know, he could just be waiting for Uub to get a bit older.

>>146707727
Beerus explains how the entire Universe rests on Goku's behavior
Goku: Beerus-sama, ya got a funny look on yer face

If you think this is the same Goku as the one in the original manga YOU'RE retarded.

>>146707729
>He traded blows with Black for a good long while.
He did it for like two maybe three seconds and slapped him away to which Black recovered extrememly quickly. That was it he wasn't fighting him on par or anything

>Remember, Goku literally knocked him out in a single attack as a measely SS3.
>Still comparing pre-training to post training

>This is like Piccolo had tried to fight Frieza after he went golden and didn't get instantly taken out, and traded attacks. It's that stupid.
You aren't even following your own comparisons anymore.
Anyway Frieza could have instantly crushed Goku because he outpowered him by a large margin. The factor that was his downfall was the fact that he couldn't maintain the form because of his inexperience other than that Goku would have lost.

Anyway, that's how it's similar, however in this situation Goku is the one who fought to exhaustion while Black was still at full. And you can't compare an exhausted Goku to anything and expect an accurate result.

why is mai such a cunt

>>146707835
>Or maybe that's not the theme of super
Is the Theme of Super "Goku is literally a fucking retard now"? Because he's literally never been this dumb since he was 10 years old.

>>146707809
No i mean tien know's the mafuba and he's the only person other than kami to use it without dying.
I'd be fine with piccolo getting some spotlight too, he's probably the best bet because he's got experience with the reverse mafuba so he might be able to dodge or redirect it if the inevitable "someone other than goku can't win" plot point happens.

>can't beat goku so just create your own version of him

Is Zamasu the smartest villain in dragonball so far?

>>146707816
Holy fuck you're talking in such comedically black and white terms.

You wouldn't die just cuz you took a beating from someone twice as strong as you. A silverback gorilla wouldn't die because it took a beating from something ten times strong than it (a human isn't quite that sturdy so it's likely but not certain that it would)

The stronger you get the more you have to overpower to actually just outright murder it instantly. To instantly kill goku like that he'd have to be at least stronger than Whis and to kill Truks like that he'd have to be stronger than Beerus.

Anyone wanna pass me a link with the English sub?

Trunks beating black a bit is just like Gohan did against Freeza, not one but twice, rage and power up a lot more than the enemy would expect, chimp out and hit hard for a few seconds until the way superior enemy recovers with no damage.

>>146707865
>He did it for like two maybe three seconds and slapped him away to which Black recovered extrememly quickly
>Able to trade blows with someone who should be able to knock him out in a single blow
>Able to knock back someone who whould be able to knock him out in a single attack
>"That's not fighting him on par"
Don't be stupid.

>>146707865
>>Still comparing pre-training to post training
He trained for ONE AFTERNOON. He's not fucking Frieza, if he actually powered up that much in that time, that's just as retarded or worse than him being able to match black as a SS2.

>>146707865
>Anyway, that's how it's similar, however in this situation Goku is the one who fought to exhaustion while Black was still at full
Full black would have trashed Trunks if that was true. Trunks did equally well against both Black and Zamasu. So everyone was relatively equal in this fight despite it making no fucking sense.

>>146707907
Dr. Gero already did that and he did it with science, so no.

>>146707941
It's time Akira just makes hybrids stronger than full sayians.

>>146707941
>chimp out
Frieza detected.

>>146707941
What about the part where he beats Zamasu (sans inmortality) when the latter was enough of a threat for SSJB Goku ?

>>146707950
Cell was actually a bio android with ONLY some of goku's cells. Zamasu is literally using Goku's body. There is a big difference.

>>146707881
>maybe they aren't focusing on him training a successor because passing things down to the next generation was the theme of Z not super.

>never been this dumb since he was 10.

Goku has always been relaxed in front of authority figures unless he wanted something from them.>>146707851 he just acted like he did the first time he met zen, the same time that zen told Goku that he liked him, why would Goku worry? from his perspective Zen is a cool dude and they're all just being way too stuck in the mud.

>>146707922
1) Goku instantly knocked Trunks out as a SS3
2) Black is stronger than SSB Goku, who is MUCH stronger than SS3 Goku.
3) Trunks was not instantly knocked out by Black
4)Trunks fought both Black and Zamasu, and he was relatively even with both.
4) Trunks received the same damage Goku did from Black's Kamehameha

Why are you pretending there's even a shred of consistency here?

>>146708011

He still killed Goku though.

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>>146708011
Yeah the difference is Gero tried to make an improved goku, whether he succeeded or not it was a better plan.

>>146708014
Goku could fucking do math when he was 12.

The episode was good until it became nothing but "Ok, now to finish them off...oh no, pocket sand!" moments.

>>146706630
all they're doing now is playing with our feelings, for a dragon ball ship, trunks x mai is one wild roller coaster ride.

>>146707991
It's almost as if Zamas acted like he did before but without the ability to actually be hurt and that made goku pause.

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>>146708067
Goku overwhelmed Zamasu as a SS2. He couldn't as a SSB. There's no acting here, just a much stronger Zamasu.

>>146708011
>Zamasu
>Literally a god that used dragonballs to get what he wanted

>Dr Gero
>Literally a human that made several beings far beyond Freeza's power without any dragonballs

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>>146708064
It had nice bits of fighting but it made little sense even before the stupid pocket sands.

>>146708023
See, you fail at point one. He didn't knock Trunks out, he punched him once, he went to the floor because he punched him down and then went down, asked if he was okay and Turnks got up and seemed reasonably okay from the exchange.

>Vegeta saved both Goku and Future Trunks
So where is that I one anon who said Vegeta role for this arc was over after last episode?

>>146708121
It's from konosuba but specifically this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UpZnSjMko4

>>146708121
konosuba

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>>146708065
I know it gets frustrating sometimes, but that's why it will really pay off in the end.

>>146708155
Vegeta exists for two reasons:
To job
To save the main fighter/s from getting btfo.

>>146708140
As a SS3, anon. And he wasn't trying to kill trunks or anything. The fact is, Goku as SS3 was OVERWHELMINGLY stronger than Trunks in the anime, and even if we go by manga standards, as SSB he was still overwhelmingly stronger.

But black, who is stronger than Goku's SSB, can't overwhelm Trunks. It's fucking stupid.

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WHY THE FUCK DID MAI JUMP OUT OF THE TIME MACHINE, EVERYTHING WAS GOING SO WELL, AND DONT TELL ME TO PROTECT THE REMAINING NINGENS BECAUSE I DONT GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT THEM

>>146708201
you forgot his main role is to just a fusion lab rat when ready.

>>146705187
To be fair, Zamasu's base power level is as strong as perfect cell and he can teleport anywhere by saying "kai kai".

>>146708155
>Vegeta saved Goku and Trunks
>Yajirobe saved Goku and Trunks
>Mai saved Vegeta

speaking of which, did Mai do anything to Vegeta's body?

>>146707820
for some reason it is saved corrupted so I can't work on it

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>>146706439
That look on Mai's face in the last panel
spending the last of her fertile years on constant baby making.

>>146708201
Is that you?
yfw you got BTFO?

>>146708112
He overwhelmed him, he didn't send him flying. You know what being overwhelmed in the way he was in that fight would look like if he couldn't be hurt? like what happend in this episode, he just takes the hit because he doesn't care, before he was trying to flow with and guide goku's attacks off target, so goku just pushed through into him harder and pushed him back, this time he didn't do that, Goku noticed that, why didn't you?

>>146708253
>pic
source?

>>146705672
>Implying he can do that with Whis around especially when he knows about the future and Black
All he has to do is revert 3 minutes back, call Supreme and tell him to teleport to his location and protect him. Black is strong but he's still shit against Beerus/Whis.

>>146708217
>can't overwhelm Trunks.

But he can, and he did. You're bad at observing things. Notice how Black and Zamas walked away from the fight completely fine, not a scratch while they both had to be dragged to safety? I'm sorry they didn't choreograph and animate it exactly the same way because they have some sense of drama.

>>146705187
What is even the point of the Super Dragon Balls when the normal ones could have done the same shit.

>Gowasu wasn't sure if they were even real
>Somehow doesn't know about the namekian Dragon Balls.

I guess maybe there's no namekians in U10? Still pretty silly that the new DB's don't do anything particularly new.


>>146708256
>He overwhelmed him,
He did fucking not, he practically landed no good blows until he threw him against the wall. Trunks fucking got to test his immortality long before Goku could.

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>>146708253

>>146708328
funsexydragonball

>>146708359
>What is even the point of the Super Dragon Balls when the normal ones could have done the same shit.
We don't know that.

>>146707893
Zamasu getting shut down by the EVIL CONTAINMENT Wave would be pure fucking gold.

>>146708067
Zamasu clearly tries to attack Trunks after the stabbing, but Trunks outmaneuvers him and hits him multiple times. I doubt he was pretending there. Seems Zamasu is straight outmatched by Trunks in terms of pure fighting ability.

>>146708224
To protect the world of course, she's doing it for her boy trunks, also Trunks is still pretty naive and childish for an adult. He needs to grow out of his attachment issues like weaning a baby. You know, Pilaf and Shu probably did the same to her.

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>>146708224

she's the Sarah/John Connor of the resistance,
she had to stay.

> tfw no Kid Trunks/Mirai Mai reunion

>>146708348
Is your definition of overwhelming someone "getting knocked into a wall by that someone"?

Because THAT's what Black did. He got fucking OVERWHELMED, though not hurt, by trunks, by a fighter who should be getting oneshot by a much weaker form than Black's got.

>Notice how Black and Zamas walked away from the fight completely fine, not a scratch while they both had to be dragged to safety?
Notice how that only happened because Zamasu had to lock them down while Black blasted them?

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>>146703940
wewie fuck

Trunks took some goddamn names in this episode like goddamn

>Kicked the shit out of Goku Black which even Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta couldn't do and got shanked for trying
>Stabbed the shit out of Zamasu which would've been a kill if he wasn't magically immortal
>FINARU FURASSH when he only saw it one time.

Vegeta needs to get on his knees and start sucking his sons cock

>>146708359
>He did fucking not, he practically landed no good blows until he threw him against the wall. Trunks fucking got to test his immortality long before Goku could.

The ability to LAND a blow is just skill, that's not power levels. Beerus himself said Trunks was pretty good, it's entirely believable for a skilled fighter to land a blow against another skilled fighter. And did you not notice what happened when Zamas took Goku's attack first time? like, for real? Are you watcing the episode or skimming through and not even trying to understand what's happening while waiting for subs? because I'm fine with that if that's the case, but wait for the subs before you talk.

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>>146708393
>We don't know that.
They can bring back the dead. There's no reason they couldn't.

The only thing the new DB's seem to be able to do is go around the "oh no this villain is stronger than kami so he can't be wished away" rule, but that is a moot point because since this is a shounen fighting manga they'll never wish their enemies away.

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>>146708253
They have to do that for humanity's sake.

>waiting for batman subs
fuq

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>>146708480

>>146708462
>The ability to LAND a blow is just skill, that's not power levels.
Without the power and speed to land a blow, skill is irrelevant. Trunks is not more skilled than Goku, stop fucking dreaming, and he's much less powerful. He should in no way be able to fight shoulder to shoulder with Goku against enemies giving Goku a hard time unless he'd gone Blue himself.

Seriously, stop being a Toei apologist.

>And did you not notice what happened when Zamas took Goku's attack first time?
I noticed he had the physical power to resist a SSB's attack without getting flung away, when he couldn't do that vs a SS2 before. Did you?

how big is mai's penis?

>>146708497
>They can bring back the dead.
And? That's not immortality.

>>146708588
>Without the power and speed to land a blow, skill is irrelevant.

Okay, you confirmed for never even having tried to throw a punch.

>>146708590
This isn't Blazblue

>>146708593
Immortality is negating death, dragon balls can negate death.

>>146708621
You confirmed for not reading fucking Dragon Ball. Literally since Roshi's time the lesson was "fuck technique, you guys already know how to fight, now you need speed and power overwhelming". And that principle held true throughout the entire series.

This episode is just all sorts of retarded.
>SSJ Trunks shrugs off an attack from a god powered Black, then throws him to a wall
>using the same sword that broke against android 18
>Black's kamehameha couldn't even obliterate SSJ Trunks
It took Trunks 2 days to surpass Black with god mode and he doesn't even have god mode himself. Are we gonna get a Black Trunks arc when Zamasu realizes how strong Trunks is?

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>>146708457
He just needs SSJB.

>>146707766
>In the Buu Saga he was trying to forge a successor because he was dead
So instead of trying to do as such by killing Buu as soon as possible using SSJ3, which he could have done, he prolonged the fight for no reason at all and let Buu live.
Does that sound like the actions of a man who has an ounce of intelligence?

Or how about when he could have IT'd Vegeta away from Babidi's space ship so their fight wouldn't risk awakening Buu. Sounds like something someone with "subnormal mental faculties" would do.

Or how about how Goku never realised he was the one transforming into a great ape and destroying the landscape as a kid until around the time of the saiyan saga.

Then there was the time he first went to King Kai's and forgot the word for gravity.

I could go on with how dumb Goku has been over the years and how he hasn't changed a single bit across the various media. Even the Super manga makes him this retarded.

>>146708060
Sorry but it was the manga where he used his fingers to count.

>>146708689
What's retarded is the amount of apologists defending all that idiocy.

>>146708621
I didn't know dragon ball worked like real life bruh.

>>146708689
>using the same sword that broke against android 18
how could it be the same if it broke? :^)

>>146708247
should I try reuploading it?

>>146708673
>dragon balls can negate death.
The Dragonballs don't work on Gods.
Plus Zamasu only knew of the Super Dragonballs.

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>>146708120
Absolutely perfect. By the way, did Future Trunks destroy Geros lab in his timeline?

>>146708673
and power level directly equates to speed right?

and that totally isn't the words of someone telling someone that they need to shift priorities because they're too focused on technique right?

Zamas didn't get knocked back because it wasn't a punch thrown in the right way to knock him back, it didn't have the weight and power behind it, the angle was all wrong, etc.

Stop trying to make everything a binary, it's not a binary it's a gradient.

>>146708457
Don't forget the blade catch followed followed by a patented Guile flash-kick right into Zamasu's dome

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>>146708498
that duty and dedication to save their world.

>>146708760
please do, let's see if this time it works

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>>146708704

>>146708826
l-lewd!

>>146708457
>Kicked the shit out of Goku Black which even Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta couldn't do and got shanked for trying
Are you dumb? Vegeta was rekting Black before he got stabbed and landed way more hits than Trunks.

>Stabbed the shit out of Zamasu which would've been a kill if he wasn't magically immortal
Don't mean shit, it was just there to show off Zamasu's immortality.

>FINARU FURASSH when he only saw it one time.
Newfag? That happens a lot in this series. Goku with Kamehamaha, Vegeta with Kienzan etc

>Vegeta needs to get on his knees and start sucking his sons cock
After Vegeta just saved his life no not really, but you're free to do so, you so clearly want to anyway.

>>146708715
>So instead of trying to do as such by killing Buu as soon as possible using SSJ3, which he could have done, he prolonged the fight for no reason at all and let Buu live.
Are you fucking stupid?

>Go SS3 and beat Buu (not a sure thing)
>Time's up
>No successor
>Next big threat everyone's fucked.

So yes, trying to train the living to solve their Buu problem WAS the responsible thing to do.

>Or how about when he could have IT'd Vegeta away from Babidi's space ship so their fight wouldn't risk awakening Bu
That would have been too smart for Dragon Ball, period, and Vegeta would likely have had none of that. This is incomparably less of a dumb thing than almost everything he's done in Super.

>Or how about how Goku never realised he was the one transforming into a great ape and destroying the landscape as a kid until around the time of the saiyan saga.

He was 10 years old. How the fuck would he know?

>Then there was the time he first went to King Kai's and forgot the word for gravity.
Animeonly shit, problably dub-only too.

>I could go on with how dumb Goku has been over the years
You could, but none of those examples are nearly as bad as almost anything he's done in Super. And yes, the Super Manga is terrible too.

>Sorry but it was the manga where he used his fingers to count.
The manga is terrible too.

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>>146704422
That wasn't a futafags scene you futa faggot

>>146708766
>The Dragonballs don't work on Gods.
Nice headcanon. The Dragon Balls don't negatively affect anything stronger than their creator, but can work fine on willing subjects, even gods. See: Kibitoshin's De-fusing.

>>146708673
>dragon balls can negate death.
No, they can bring someone back to life.

Boys please, I need a link

>>146708715
It actually made sense. He wanted the next generation to be able to take care of themselves in case a threat arrives & he can't help. Buu wouldn't have even escaped had Vegeta not went Majin.

>>146708939
link to what?

>>146708791
>and power level directly equates to speed right?
Outside of unbalanced forms, yes, pretty much.

>>146708791
>>Zamas didn't get knocked back because it wasn't a punch thrown in the right way to knock him back
He was able to withstand a punch of someone supposedly many many times stronger than him, for no real reason. He didn't divert it, he stopped it.

There's no gradients here, just tremendous inconsistencies.

>>146706839

Honestly, he has the same hidden potential as Gohan, seeing as he is a half Saiyan, half Human hybrid.

Trunks, while staying in SSJ2, has shown that he has similar strength to an SSJ3 at max power. It's really not that difficult to believe that he can go toe to toe with Zamasu, who Goku was able to overpower in SSJ2 form.

SPIC SUBS OUT
>SPIC SUBS OUT
SPIC SUBS OUT
>SPIC SUBS OUT
SPIC SUBS OUT
>SPIC SUBS OUT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU2y7_4D6N4

>>146708930
>No, they can bring someone back to life.
Which is literally negating death.

>>146708980
>It's really not that difficult to believe that he can go toe to toe with Zamasu, who Goku was able to overpower in SSJ2 form.
Problem is Goku would have destroyed Zamasu if he was still at that level, because SSB >>> SS3.

>>146708980
The difference is that this Zamasu is comparable to SSJB Goku and Black, so there is no way Trunks Could've matched them without a God form himself.

>>146709009
Spic Subs were out over 3 hours ago anon.

>>146709029
you forgot Trunks trained a bit with his father making him stronger

>>146708080

Perfect.

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>>146708826
Hands off my husbando.

>>146709045
Oh, I didn't see them until now. I'm retarded, sorry famalam

>>146708976
3 > 2 ergo 3 is infinitely stronger than 2.

Also weaker people have been faster before.

>>146709016
can bring someone back to life=/=unkillable body

>>146709056
>Closed the gap between SS3 and SSB in one fucking afternoon

Please no, that's even dumber.

>>146708862
> Vegeta was rekting Black before he got stabbed

You focking wot? Soon as he became Super Saiyan Rose he was literally playing Vegeta and just set him up into getting stabbed.

>it was just there to show off Zamasu's immortality.
And also show that Trunks is good enough to fatally wound Zamasu It means something in his favor no matter how much you go "no" about it especially when Zamasu was surprised by the stab.

> Newfag? That happens a lot in this series. Goku with Kamehamaha, Vegeta with Kienzan etc
Firstly Goku doing that was treated as a huge thing back in Dragonball

Vegeta never even calls that shit he does Kienzan which just solidifies it as a generic move

And you've gotta list more for me to counter.

Now (You) get on your knees and suck off Trunks.

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>>146708939
here

>>146708874
>>Go SS3 and beat Buu (not a sure thing)
They established that SSJ3 has more than enough power to kill Buu in the first place but Goku's job was to stall. In other words if he had finished him off in the first place he still would have had time on earth to teach the others how to fight and protect the earth.
Remember how he still had a lot of time after that fight? Granted he did lose quite a bit but it was more than enough to teach hell he would have been there for longer if Goten and Trunks didn't ask him to go SSJ3. Which was another retarded decision by Goku mind you because that wasted the rest of his time that could have been spent teaching them.

>So yes, trying to train the living to solve their Buu problem WAS the responsible thing to do.
No, it was the worst possible course of action to take and took us on Buu's wild personality ride: the arc.

>and Vegeta would likely have had none of that.
I think you missed the whole "instantaneous travel" part of IT. Vegeta wouldn't have had a choice in the matter.

>He was 10 years old. How the fuck would he know?
Oh sorry I didn't realise he was 10 years old when he was with Gohan and still didn't realise it was him that was doing it when he was a kid.

>Animeonly shit, problably dub-only too.
Literally in the manga jackass.

>but none of those examples are nearly as bad as almost anything he's done in Super.
Yeah I agree, they're worse by a large margin.

>>146709091

But he did "Image training" according to Shu!

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>>146709084
They have power over life and death, there's no reason they can't give you an unkillable body. Hell, if they couldn't, Namek wouldn't have been a fucking problem.

>>146709082
>3 > 2 ergo 3 is infinitely stronger than 2.
Stronger enough to completely blow away a SS2 in one attack. And SSB is even stronger compared to 3 than SS3 is compared to 2.

So yes, for practical purposes, the difference may as well be infinite. Zamasu should have been obliterated by Goku if he was still as strong as back then.

>>146704173
they don't even try to compete

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>>146704173
>making a ki blast together

>>146709093
>Firstly Goku doing that was treated as a huge thing back in Dragonball
Yeah and then they did it with Tien
Then Gohan
Then Goten
Then Buu

In dragonball this shit isn't hard to copy.

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>>146704039
>tfw SSGSS Golden Cell could send a few SSGSS Golden Cell Jrs & win

>>146709071
>choosing the wrost of the twins to be your husbando
kys

So I take it a lot of people just started watching Dragonball with Super right?

Do half of you retards realise that powerlevels never meant a thing and that characters can literally rage themselves into fending off gods? Just look at Vegeta. At the time he was probably weaker than Trunks is now.

>>146709144
>They established that SSJ3 has more than enough power to kill Buu in the first place
No, they did not. Goku was roughly even in power, a little stronger than Fat Buu. But it's not certain he could have killed him before his time ran out.
>Remember how he still had a lot of time after that fight?
A couple hours, whereas he would have had almost a full day left otherwise.

>No, it was the worst possible course of action to take
Hardly. Trying to take out Buu himself would at best left earth without warriors to protect it, at worst he'd have failed and everyone would have been killed by Buu.

>I think you missed the whole "instantaneous travel" part of IT
He has to put his hand on Vegeta and concentrate first.And again, if he'd done that, he'd have been too smart for shounen.
>Oh sorry I didn't realise he was 10 years old when he was with Gohan and still didn't realise it was him that was doing it when he was a kid.
There had been no more apes since the first tournament. How the fuck would he know?

>Literally in the manga jackass.
I own the manga. Maybe just your shit translation. Though let's say you're correct, forgetting one word is not as bad as forgetting to count, and not as bad as almost everything Goku's done in Super.

>they're worse by a large margin.
This is what you're reduced too. Just admit you're wrong, anon.

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>>146709325
If by worst you mean cutest then yeah no.

>>146709290
Krillin and Yamcha did the kamehameha with relatively little effort too.
Also Goku and krillin copied Taiyoken after only seeing it and presumably practicing a bit on their own.