Here's why i think re: zero falls apart in my different

>>146698079
At this point, i like it. It's a good hook into the series with a solid cast and premise. Bonus points becuase it seems to come off as self-aware through subaru and pokes fun at cliches.

I'll start and point out the questionable decision in pacing to throw two of these characters to the backburner and have a complete shift to slice of life murder mystery mansion setting(i'm not even including the assasin and knight). This went from an adventure chase that took place across different areas of a city to a static mansion. I don't care if the previous characters come back 10 episodes later. It's jarring and breaks flow to introduce a whole house of a new cast.

I'll also point out that if you're going to do that, don't make the cast a complete cliche(moe twins, a loli, confident homo erotic male).

Anyways.

We get to the mansion and have to be reintroduced to new characters. This is an inherent "retcon" of a cast foundation. 4 episodes into your anime. It isn't just adding characters. It's a re-learning of who we're suppose to care about. Emelia certainly isn't strong enough of a character to afford to be absent. I'd even say it's detrimental that she occasionaly shows up just to interact with subaru and enforce him.

At this point you guys are probably saying something along the lines of "she isn't suppose to be the center of attention, she has her own life away from subaru. She's independent". I disagree. That pretty much solidifies that the anime is only about subaru and his unbearable character "development", which i don't think is good enough to hold the anime by itself . What am i getting out of subaru selfishly crying for 16 episodes exactly?

>>146698107
This is enforced with the opposite "overdeveloping" of rem. I say overdeveloping becuase the anime focuses so much on her just to do so little. She is given a back story, she has a dynamic arc with subaru, and she has motives(keep in mind she developed into a character that hinges on the existence of subaru). What happens? She's shafted to highlight subaru's character trait.
I.e shes torturted by cult leader just to make subaru suffer, she becomes a character who's purpose is to serve subaru, is supportive of subaru when he needs it, ect.

The main love interest is underdeveloped and the developed "love interest" is treated like a plot device.

Look, i get it. We've had our string of gary stu's for the past couple of anime seasons. That doesn't mean that a character that comes along to be bad at everything is a good character. There's more to good character writing other than "look how cringey he is!". He's unreflective and events around him only happen to reinforce his lack of learning. It's just a small part on to the bigger shit show that is the anime.

And that there lies on my biggest issue with the anime.

Subaru, who is suppose to be the one carrying the anime, who demands a cast around him to be neglected in the eyes of the viewer, is too weak of a character for this show to be considered "good". There is no learning for subaru to justify so many episodes. You can't have subaru suicide to save the twins in one episode, have him be scared to die in every episode after, say that he actually didn't learn anything the whole time and expect that to be acceptable. I don't give a shit that he "derives his worth from the views around him" because everything falls apart around him for little return, if any. There's no solid theme, plot point, or characterization that stands out as exceptional.

>>146698163
I say weak plot point because the "grand focus" seems to change every couple of episodes. The only consistent plot point is his death cycle, which is underused imo.

What are some examples of how the death cycle can be used interestingly?

>killing yourself thousands of times to learn a bunch of interesting talents
>having a death "limit"; something like you can only die x amount of times, or if certain things conditions happen the respawn is moved.

How cool would it be to have an episode where subaru carelessly goes throughout the day fucking up his relationships just to find out that if he dies after x time the spawn point changes. Leaving his fuck up permanent, and he fails to kill himself by that time?

The death cycle in re:zero is cryptic. That's not necessarily bad, but i have no reason to think much of it because subaru questions it far less than he should.

At most the death cycle is just an excuse for the writers to torture subaru without consequence aside from his "break down". A break down that happens becuase he cares so much about the people around him, yet his character is suppose to be about not actually caring about people around him? Also not addressing the viewer's elephant in the room that is "this nigga can just respawn whenever something goes bad, right?".

>but he doesn't like dying because of pain!

Then why does he put himself in positions that cause pain? Like getting beat up by the knight or fighting evil characters? His main dissatisfaction from dying is the pain, yet he puts himself in a position to have pain for people who he doesn't actually care about aside from their views of him? Views he can reset from dying?

>>146698205
Anyways, that's getting besides the point. let's also list all the different plot points this anime attempts to tackle.

>death respond
>criminal chase
>mansion slice of life butler learning
>learning about your special power
>murder mystery
>forest demon dogs
>demon twin background
>empress crowning
>faction wars
>religious fanatics
>white whale
>spirit animal apocalypse

It's so awful to try to care about something just so the anime can jump to the next thing. There's no reason to keep watching because there's nothing to care about that gets a proper treatment. It makes the journey to stick with subaru unbearable because everything around him is so shallow. Filled with waifu bait, underdeveloped love interests, and characters that seemingly come in and out because of convenience. There's no incentive to keep going. Subaru hasn't learned anything at episode 16 so i struggle to give a shit. If he come around later it would already have been too late.
I don't hate subaru. I just don't have a reason to care.

>>146698400
Stop trying to fit in using words you don't know the meaning of.

tl;dr Re:Zero is shit.

OP, you obviously made a real effort, and I would address your posts if it wasn't the first Saturday of college football.

epic

tl;dr- the thread

looks good, man. upload your review to mal

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>/a/ can't handle more than memes and one liners

>>146698400
He's talking about the show not his life you retard.

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>>146698079

I've heard that the point of the series is to reveal just how powerless Subaru is, because he's not the "main" character. He's just some background character that we happen to view the world through.

>>146698820
>>146698750
Hi OP.

>>146698896
Sorry I can read a few paragraphs.

>>146698750
Very meaningful contribution to the discussion on your part.
You're so much better than everyone else in this thread.

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>>146698896
That's not me though.

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>>146698872
That doesn't work if the world around him is uninteresting.

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>>146698239
>>146698205
>>146698163
>>146698107
>>146698079
OP, I think most people with half a brain agree with you. Re Zero is obviously pretty garbage in terms of story and characters, but it's fun to watch and has funny plot twists, and the memes on /a/ make it better. The sad thing is that most people here will just say "LOLLOL YOU HATE SUBARU BECAUSE HE HITS TOO CLOSE TO HOME AM I FRUED NOW LMAO."

It's a dumb show that's the equivalent of a popcorn flick like Transformers or something in Japan. Don't take it too seriously. I watch it still because I enjoy laughing at all the stupid shit. Keep in mind that this is a show where four stupid teenage girls are running for queen, and the show expects you to take all of them seriously.

Just ignore the shitposters and turn the other cheek, OP.

>>146699551
I was just trying to help you man. I was only watching the show because my friends were so into it.

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tl;dr - pic related is all there is

I just think it doesn't deserve the praise it gets and it's honestly pretty overrated

Like really overrated

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>>146699567
I'm perfectly ok with that. Too many people just think otherwise so i vented it out.

>>146699649
Forsure, didn't mean to come off snappy.

>>146699773
You know what, guy. Life is overrated.

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>>146698079
Yeah the show is pretty bad when it comes to consistent themes, pacing, character development, character relationships etc. And almost all emotional moments are derived from shock 'BET YOU DIDN'T SEE IT COMING' schlock.

But really what are you looking for here, this IS that anime where you don't think too hard. Because when pic related is given as straight faced political discourse, you know the author didn't give a shit about that aspect and neither should you.

>>146698079
This is the first decent Re:Zero thread in months. Keep up the good work OP.

Also a tl:dr would be appreciated.

>>146699153
Sad thing is that he is (at least a majority (good work OP))

>give elaborate explanation as to why they don't like your favorite anime
>t-tl;d-dr
>m-muh autism

>>146700415
OP, please.

You're mostly right, OP. I'm too lazy to argue specific points, so I'll just say if you're already up to ep 16 you should watch up to 18 or maybe 19 before deciding to drop it. 18 was what made the series worth watching for me, it's high on the blatant-waifubait-scale which I found a little insidious but the execution as a whole was great. It's probably the major turning point of the anime so if you don't like it you can safely drop it.

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>>146699968
That actually hilarious to have it singled out like that.

>>146700255
Tl:dr

>anime jumps around too many things
>viewer has nothing to latch on to throughout story
>world around subaru is shallow and subaru isn't strong enough to carry the anime

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>>146700476
That's not me

I think it is easier to list example of anime that *don't* fall apart in this manner. I don't know why the medium is so fucking bad for this but it sucks. I have been blue balled so many times by a great concept and really strong opening episodes, sowing seeds that you assume will come to fruition in the closing chapters. But then there will invariably be half a dozen episodes squandered on random shit before segueing into a rushed and abrupt ending.

And when it comes to adaptions it's even worse because even if the source material did it right (which it probably didn't) the adaption will always be incomplete or just fuck it up entirely. This is why I mostly watch slice of life these days, Japan just can't do good storytelling.

tl:dr anime is shit. Read novels if you want properly constructed stories.

You're right man. You're right.
I can now finish reading JOJO.

I agree with everything you said OP, but I recommend you keep watching just so:
1. You're fair and objective, some of the things you said are fixable (not all).
2. There are others problems in the next few eps already that I want to hear you criticize, and probably even more in eps yet to come.

All in all I appreciate your effort.

I wont read that

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>>146701167
It's a shame. I don't know how the economy of adaptions work but it honestly feels like manga writers strike gold by being interesting for a couple of chapters. They get an anime deal, and show their lack of story structure by falling apart in the middle of the series. I still get fired up over SAO.

>>146701372
Maybe after the last episode airs ill post again, i prefer to get working all at once than week by week. Thanks for the appreciation.

>>146699968
You may think it's not a show one should be thinking hard about while watching, but I've seen people defend it by saying we aren't thinking hard enough while watching it.

>>146701167
It's really just a problem of bad writers not knowing what to do so they pad things out with filler until they give up. You can find a lot of those writing bestselling novels, too.

>>146699567
>>It's a dumb show that's the equivalent of a popcorn flick like Transformers or something in Japan.
I wish people wouldn't falseflag about it being the greatest thing EVAR then

>>146698079
Yeah, this >>146699567 pretty much, I think most of us are just watching it to participate in the threads and get the memes.

Agree with everything you said, including the lack of proper lore, over characterization, the absurdity of the romance subplot and all, but two things that I've seen in this show kept me hooked for more in the hopes that I'd see them again.

You mentioned how we're overwhelmed by the amount of plot points thrown our way and how the narrative doesn't hold together when scrutinized with their priority in mind. But there have been instances where I felt the worked to the show's favor. Like when Subaru dies one time with Rem in his arms in front of the mansion with the monstrous wolf-like being looking upon him as his head silently falls to the ground. Such scenes help illustrate what >>146698872 said. It just felt so powerful and plays right into the show's themes of helplessness. It might all be a huge mess, but it's still enjoyable from some perspective.

Also, Subaru's hero complex seems very interesting to me, as I haven't seen enough shows where protagonists sperg out so much or whatever. I would ask you not to judge the show by the nature of the characters, but their quality. That said, almost all of the main ones are inconsistently done. I too did not like the few episodes where everyone turns on Subaru needlessly, but maybe it's just trying to tell us something, however clumsy it may be.

All in all, great post, keep it up, and stay away from the generals.

>>146702788
It's funny how the mind works, your post starts and ends almost identically as mine >>146701372
and has a similar middle.

Not saying you didn't contribute, indeed you contributed more than me, but clearly I had some effect on you and I find that interesting without ulterior motives.

>>146703061
Hey, it almost looks like I just elaborated on what you said, and even stole your concluding words. Gotta stay more focused.

>>146698079
Holy shit, this is MAL-tier review bullshit. I can't even bother reading with this being that long. Keep it short, simple, be specific as you can but simplify it and DON'T MAKE ANOTHER DAMN THREAD AND SAY IT TO THE OTHERS FACES.

>>146703061
>>146703378
Morphogenetic fields.

>>146703527
From what a quick search on Google got me, I'm not too sure that's what this is, as your specific comment definitely unconsciously triggered me to write mine up, and it isn't as if there are a lot of us apologists considering that this is one of those polarizing shows. But yeah, I feel you.

>>146698872
He's neither powerless nor a background character. He clearly has the Witch's favor and can influence others with some luck and foreknowledge that comes with every death. The series has shown him to be powerless that many points but I'm not convinced that the point is to show how useless he is.

>>146703676
That's not me, I also googled it and concur it's not what happened between us. It seems to be a cellular phenomenon not a cognitive one.

>>146699567
>four stupid teenage girls are running for queen

Speaking of that, what's the requirement for winner to get the throne again? Kill each other?

Coincidentally, I'm just watching Episode 16 no, making me perfectly situated to address this.

>>146698107
It's based on books, so it makes sense that it leaves things a bit long on an anime time scale. If you can't handle the shifts in backdrop and not seeing characters for a few episodes, then you're probably not the target audience.

>At this point you guys are probably saying something along the lines of "she isn't suppose to be the center of attention, she has her own life away from subaru. She's independent".
Rather than that, she isn't supposed to be the center of attention because she's the Dulcinea, not the Juliet. You should have realized this when they were in the mansion, but if you didn't realize it when it was explicitly pointed out at the beginning of episode 16, the problem is probably just that you're stupid.

>What happens? She's shafted to highlight subaru's character trait.
Yes. Personally I think she makes a good deuteragonist in this regard. She highlights it very well, while also painting a clear picture of a somewhat abusive relationship.

>>146703803
(cont)

>Look, i get it. We've had our string of gary stu's for the past couple of anime seasons. That doesn't mean that a character that comes along to be bad at everything is a good character. There's more to good character writing other than "look how cringey he is!". He's unreflective and events around him only happen to reinforce his lack of learning.
In the same way that being super powerful and baddass doesn't make a character a good character, being a shitty person doesn't make a character a bad character.

>There is no learning for subaru to justify so many episodes.
I don't think learning is exactly the point.

>There's no solid theme, plot point, or characterization that stands out as exceptional.
I think that it's too early to fully see where it's going, it's clearly a slow burn series, but the focus on motivations is pretty clear. That said, I also don't think a show needs those things. It's well-done throughout, and so it's absolutely fine to just watch it in the moment without trying to build an overarching framework in your mind.

>>146698205
Your idea of using death interestingly sounds like boring schlock, honestly, the kind of wish fulfillment fantasy that this very much isn't.

tl;dr: You've done a good job at being right while being wrong. Sure, your arguments are more or less true, but you've missed the point consistently and your complaints are more or less irrelevant.

>>146702788
>I too did not like the few episodes where everyone turns on Subaru needlessly
>needlessly
>implying he wasn't being a total ass

This isn't MAL tho. Therefore I'm not taking the "review" seriously. Kill yourself OP. Never come back.

>>146698079
For once a legit criticism, well done OP.

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This is MAL tier. It is just an anime.

It's pretty hard to state why exactly I like this show.

There are so many great and interesting characters in it, for one. I really, really do want to find out what happens in the future with Crush, what's the deal with Al, what the deal is with the dragon, etc.

This is how you build lore properly, by the way. You don't shove the MC into a story and have him tackle every single storyline. You have each storyline peek a little bit from the background. It makes the world of the show feel grand and, more importantly, that the MC isn't some superhuman that will solve all the world's problems.

Thirdly, groundhog day shenanigans. I fucking love that shit and always will.

Fourth, as someone said in this thread earlier, the theme of helplessness. Subaru is a very average everyday guy who's piss weak and just trying to do the best he can. He's not Batman in a world of supers, he's just a normal person doing the best he can and realising he's basically utterly useless in the grand scheme of things. I personally love this theme and in fact I'm writing my own story on the same theme. The world is a difficult place and often you can't control what happens. Re:Zero is one of the few shows to tell this well.

Lastly, there's no overall plot. I think this connects to the above reason that makes this show great. I mean, sure, the end goal is "defeat Satella" or "win Emilia" or whatever, but in between all that, it's literally just "MC is stuck between a bunch of random shit that occurs" which I also love in a story. It reinforces the idea of a chaotic world.

I really can't bother with contrarian opinion threads. I had to go through so much bullshit in correcting people and misconception based on perspective and translation that this is a bunch of bullshit. Put your damn review in the damn thread, we don't care but having to hear something behind the people's backs especially using another thread to do so, and say, "This show is shit because of this!" While you continue to show your "feelings" into the review while copy-pasting the damn thing into multiple posts to do so. Say it to the people despite how bad the threads are, and do it. This did not work in the long run and only three anons in an entire thread was willing to put up in responding to the same amount of bullshit as yours while a bunch of contrarians, false-flaggers, stigmatizing assholes, delusional idiots on both sides of fans and a bunch of pseudo-intellectual bullshit with no standing of being able to do so. In other words, do these instructions:
> Don't make another thread.
> Say it in the fucking Re:Zero threads and to their faces. Do so, and you don't look like a weasel.
> Don't go through so much bullshit with your feelings on the matter. You mixed to much emotional response to where it became jarring.
> Don't say, "It's a TRAINWRECK" while not being specific and supporting your opinion. This is lazy.
> Keep the review simple, shortened, and less feelings on the matter while you spout half-assed ideas and views on characters, themes and archetypes.
The threads maybe shit with Ferrisfags, waifufags and and spoiler bullshit but it is alot fucking better than your bullshit of a thread while you decide to share your damn opinion instead of saying to their own faces. It shows cowardice, circlejerking contrarians who can only be contrarians in a group instead of doing so directly. Or are you not man enough to say it to their faces? Then I might respect you people in these threads a little more.

>>146698079
Agree.
I watch Zero when it has about 5 episodes, the anime really falls apart now that I have already dropped before episode 16.
I like to watch it as a random adventure than just some castle harem.

>>146698079
>>146698107
>>146698163
>>146698205
>>146698239
Honestly, agreed with a good majority of this. I do think Subaru is a fairly interesting character, but only in the small moments when the series is self aware about him being an entitled, useless piece of shit. The story in general just feels like a barely relevant vehicle for him and his waifus to emotionally manipulate the audience with death and romance. The total lack of world building, jarring inconsistencies in tone, lack of a strong central message, and all those unrelated plot points being shoehorned in with no build up or foreshadowing combine to make it feel very loosely written with no real 'anchor' for the story. I should've dropped it long ago.

>>146698239

OP, you made a decent post, but nothing you said was extraordinary enough to make any of the general-posters or meme-posters even consider their own views. Not that the migrated leddit posters have the capacity to read half your post, but whatever.

Personally, my biggest problem is simply that Subaru and Rem are shitty characters. Objectively bad. The world is cool, the action is decent, the porn is actually astounding, even the plot is alright (Although I love a nice conspiracy), but the two main characters are just written atrociously.

I'm assuming anyone who thinks this is AOTY or even AOTS is a MAL or whatever equivalent who's only seen SAO and SnK. It's not a bad show, but it's by no means a great show.

>>146699811
too many people have different opinion than me

boo hoo fucking hoo, i wish you didnt have to put it this way anon, fuck you

Re:Zero is the Shuffle anime to SAO's following the first girl wins formula.

It did "something different" but it misfires anyway making it barely better than the myriads of throwaways.

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>>146704201
>Or are you not man enough to say it to their faces?

At first your post was funny because of all the self-praising and how non-coherent it was, but then it devolved into an autistic meltdown. How do you function in the real world when you can't handle any criticism of what seems to be your first anime? We're on an anonymous imageboard for japanese cartoons, nobody cares about how angry you are that someone didn't adhere to your guidelines for critiquing babbys first edgy anime.

>>>/leddit/

>>146703879
To each their own I guess, but I believe he had his reasons for acting so desperate.
And to be clear, I'm taking about when Crusch and the blonde denied him aid and mocked him instead.

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Please just go to the damn thread while shortening your review and simplifying it. You people are just fucking weasels that don't have the balls to say your crap in the threads themselves and have to make another thread to have a contrarian opinion that is equivalent to MAL-tier bullshit. Long story short: Fuck you, say it to their damn faces while keeping your words less jarring having to read with your feelings on the matter. Maybe then I can bother to face your own bullshit. That goes with alot of you in these threads. I haven't bothered to read the whole thing yet I've seen almost the same amount of opinion aside from the people calling this MAL-tier crap. And this is and you're doing it now without even realizing it. The bar becomes even lower of you people.

>>146704849
He had reasons, but he was still being an ass about it, and from the perspective of those two, who didn't know his reasons, it was even moreso.

>>146704874
This is what generalfags really believe.

>>146698079
Epic

>>146704874
>>146704201
>my attention span is too short

>>146704836
> Edgy
Language evolves through linguistic morphing not through people misunderstanding words and using them incorrectly. Buzzwords have no meaning no matter how the culture you decided to make into but this is an illusion and only a meme. Stop using the urban dictionary.

>>146704874
>getting this butthurt that he didn't post in your general
This seems like a sign of circlejerking.

>>146704874
>shortening your review and simplifying it
>being literally unable to handle two bare;y three-line paragraphs on your anime
Holy fucking SHIT. Have you ever read a fucking book or studied anything, anything at all? You have a smaller attention span than a goldfish.

>>146704942
I hate generals and the waifufags but at least they are direct. Unlike you.
>>146704950
> My attention span is too short.
When I hear a review or point, I'd like them to get to the damn point. Not having to read a wall of text while not being able to be direct with the approach.

>>146704977
A good argument is only good in the proper context.

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>>146704836
You're retarded. If OP actually wanted to critique and try to convince people the show sucks, he'd do it in the threads. He's just looking to get his cock stroked. This whole thread is just a circle-jerking shitfest.

If he honestly wanted to criticize the fucking show, he should do it in the show's thread. He just wants fags like you to continue to suck his cock like you're doing right now.

Hilarious that you're bringing up reddit when you're part of the hugboxing shit that you'd see on reddit. Retarded Chaika poster as well, big surprise.

>>146705005
It would brighten their day. Maybe then the threads will improve. Mix a little of that into the threads and you don't get a circlejerk of strange crap that goes on with Ferrisfags and waifufags
>>146705012
Oh I read, but reviews are one thing that can contain alot of pointless things unnecessary. And especially with where you are, I'd like for it to be open and not jarring to read with pointless opinion mixed in. Keep it straight to the point like every essay and paper especially.

>>146704874
Is this the typical intelligence level of a re:zerofag? You're basically saying
>say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens!!
even though it's just as 'direct' to create a thread the entire board can see. Why the fuck would anyone be obligated to direct any comment on a series solely to the fanbase itself?

Not to mention that there's nothing wrong with the length of his post for anyone with the patience to actually think about what is being said. He brought up plenty of good points, it could be more eloquent but it wasn't hard to read or rambling or anything.

>>146705094
Thus artificial and tampered definitions of words do not work.

>>146705196
You're a fucking moron, a new thread means anyone, fans and non fans, can see and respond to it. There's fucking nothing stopping you circlejerking idiots disagreeing with him. You're literally trying to stop anyone who dislikes the series from seeing his points and supporting them, because you don't want a series you like being shit on.

So, I read this thread, and the general response seems to be
"If you don't like this terrible seasonal anime then you're a contrarian from MAL."

Sasuga /r9k/-reddit-whoever.

>>146705285
Thus the post you wrote meant nothing in regards to the post you were responding to.

>>146698079
Autistic and contrarian, tldr saged

>>146705258
The fact that there are too many agreeing like you and not willing to share the damn opinion into the Re:Zero thread is a waste. Even I have standards of every review people make of multiple series. I want OP to say it in the threads. You might get more criticism but surely it will improve with the overall idea and the gap between contrarians and the fans can improve. I want the threads to improve as well as claims into show to improve. None of which will happen if you don't bemore open, which you're not. The biggest concentration you would have to face are the fans themselves. But you don't do that. Also, like every essay or review, they should be simple, to the point and not get side-tracked with too much opinion on the matter. This is a circle-jerk of opinions. If you bother to put the opinion somewhere else where it would get more criticism instead of your own place, then it might not be like the majority of the threads right now.

>>146705583

I keep telling you ESL faggots to type in proper English.

>>146699999
>>146700000

>>146705306
And what about the threads that are contained by the rest of the fags? You should have long-since noticed of the bullshit in Re:Zero threads. The same pattern went on in contrarian threads like these and you know what happened? There was a chain of replies all down that only a few Re:Zero fags that manage to discuss what goes on in the show compared to 90% of the contrarian opinion of the thread. In other words, majority of the Re:Zero fags are circlejerking their own same bullshit while you guys haven't realized you have been circlejerking your own contrarian opinion in the damn threads.

>>146705823
But this thread isn't a circlejerk. The only reason I replied in agreement and appreciation of OP's effort is because there were many others posting they disagree with/didn't read the OP. If nobody was disagreeing I wouldn't be (vocally) agreeing.

Also you're just retarded, there's frequently more than one rezero thread and nobody is prevented from reading any of them at any time. OP probably made his own thread for convenience as it actually makes it easier to read a smaller thread, not harder.

>>146705745
And why should I do that while I have no time to be able to proofread at the moment? I'm busy replying fast to you people.
>>146705402
Wrong,
"I agree and so on with you OP."
"The show is shit Tl:dr"
"MAL-tier review"
"Just simplify the damn review and put it into the generals no matter how bad it is. It beats circlejerking contrarians and circlejerking whatever goes on in Re:Zero threads (waifufags, ferrisfags). Maybe then threads can improve. And you realize there is less contrarian circlejerking that don't realize they are circlejerking. "

>>146705583
You do realize /a/ thread ain't really the place for that, too much shitposting from both sides.

>>146706026
That's because I bothered to be here. I'd much prefer more discussion with being more open with the fans within the thread. But they are too much contained here and don't bother to do so in the actual thread. That means you have been circlejerking without even realizing it because majority of the Re:Zero fags to occupied in their own crap. You could have said it to their faces DIRECTLY I SAID. But you didn't. Say your opinions right in front of their faces, not by chance of hearing it and maybe hope they'll come. That only worked very little with a few and they had to fend off majority of these kinds of threads.

>>146706172
And that is why we are full of shit. And at least admitted themselves especially Re:Zero fags.

>>146706309
You're legitimately a fucking sperg, how are you missing the hypocrisy of what you're saying? How is it LESS of a circlejerk in a thread exclusively for re:zero fans? This thread is equal opportunity, anyone who likes re:zero has the same chance of reading it as someone who dislikes it. On the other hand, only people who like re:zero will be in the generals. There is literally no reason for someone who dislikes the series to go in those threads, ever. You want OP to go post his reasonable negative opinions in a thread for hardcore fans, so that absolutely nobody will agree with him and you don't have to face the fact that not everyone loves the series.

>>146706549
Oh hell no, you wanna hear real hypocrisy of why you people are not really open to opinion? Let's see here:
> Contrarian opinion within Re:Zero threads (general): Almost non-existent while that gets overshadowed by waifu wars and ferris fags. They didn't even show their faces with these kinds of opinions.
If you say OP can't post his damn opinions in front of hardcore fans, you know what you really saying? You are telling him to not be fully open and is too fragile to get the full extent of criticism that his opinion can really get and put it somewhere that the Re:Zero fans won't fully notice. Meanwhile,
> You and your thread that you decided to have while 60% of you people have contrarian opinion and in agreement while 20% is me and probably one other anon that tries to make criticisms and corrections that makes up majority of differing opinions while the other percentage is saying this is MAL/reddit-tier.
>You want OP to go post his reasonable negative opinions in a thread for hardcore fans,
Be careful what you said, you made a huge mistake. You have just admitted how weak the whole point of you and your people's opinion. You have just admitted circlejerking indirectly and decided to not truly open to opinion. Who is really contained in their own opinion here and not having the guts to do so? Same chance my ass. It all depends if you can truly be open and direct about it. But you didn't do it and you admitted it now.

>>146707134
Pretty sure hardcore fans are gonna see a thread on what they're fans of, though.

>>146706549
And let me tell you this. I bothered to make up majority of criticism towards this thread and your opinions in the matter. And that's one person and probably just a couple others that bothered to take a glimpse into the thread. That's not being open, the true majority and weight of your criticism can lie with the fans of the show on majority of their evaluation. Not fully doing so and admitting
>You want OP to go post his reasonable negative opinions in a thread for hardcore fans,
That he can't do it? No, you made a thread so you won't face the full fury of that and alot of your opinion is truly not up for criticism. That is now circlejerking your own opinion and not fully being direct and saying it to people faces about it.

Not OP here:

Just watched Episode 18 and fucking hell. For an episode where nothing happened, that hit hard and Subaru rejecting her so out-of-hand was some major fucking bullshit.

>>146707316
Have you SEEN the threads? You look at the thread right now and tell me if they can get out of it at all. Quite frankly, they can't. It's impossible from that kind of level of crap they are in right now in those threads.

OP you're dumb. It's a good enough anime where you're willing to critic it to this level, That says loads. Not going to go too in depth here, but how you talk about the cast foundation with Felt and Rom and how disappointing it is to switch over to a new cast is proof that the work was written with enough merit to actually care when characters you feel for are present or not.

By the way, the Mansion cast is great. The twins are well characterized, Betty and Roswald both are more complex than you give them credit for, and Subaru and Emilia more than make up any of their faults later on through great character development. Subaru's struggles might be too realistic for you and that's okay, you can always watch fluff like SAO or Kono Suba if you want.

To me OP a lot of your arguments I simply disagree with. The setting changes yes, but this nearly every work in every medium ever. While he stays at the mansion he learns a lot about magic, satella, and the characters that become a backbone for subarus character. If you were to remove this and make it about adventures with felt in the city or went directly to the election ceremony, its would be worse this is not what its about. Its makes the world interesting and engaging but it is not the main focus.
>>146703803 makes a good point about the characters so Ill leave it at that.

I think the meat of the problem, and where a lot of the criticism is partially justified, is Subaru. The show undeniably revolves around him and his interactions. What makes him a good character is the fact that he isn't linear. He has a strengths and weaknesses that often conflict with each other and develop separately. I see this a lot. If he was ok with dying before why can't he just kill himself over and over. Its because he isn't a static character. He changes over the course of the shows and this change actually has very little to do about overcoming death. In fact whats great about his power is that puts death on the backburner for the themes of the show. Which is great because now we can focus on the real powerlessness. Subaru jumps because he knows he has the power to go back. We've seen before that he can be brave, arguably out of arrogance, and this is simply a another example of that. But the entire arc after is all about him fulling realizing he isn't strong and his inability to realize this is holding him back. They even had a whole episode about this. Now, how its holding him back can be a little shaky. He goes increasingly irritable during this arc and I'd like to believe the witch's influence had a good part in it but I will concede Its a bit drastic of a change.
This is turning out not to be short. Fuck
Continued to briefly touch up on some points

>>146708038
Anyway, come the middle end of the whale arc, he fears death because he realizes that its a problem on a much larger scale than he expects and he feels powerless to do anything about it. When he asks beato to kill him. He's in pain and literally just wants to die. Albeit briefly he gives up. Whats great is his fear and fondness for his friends and his anger and pride all allow to story to avoid boring, unrealistic, and all too prevalent plots points other anime seem to take.
Why wont he just kill himself over and over to learn more about the world?
Why wont he immediately go back once someone dies ?
Why isn't he fearless?
Because thats boring and flat and once he over comes his fear of death his character would end then and there. Its real life for him, not a calculated game. He sais this too. If he alright with something going wrong to the point where he just sais, "eh Ill just reset" how can we take his compassion and devotion seriously? He be doing it all simply to live in a the easiest life he can achieve for himself.

Now the problem is I do believe we are getting some relapses in character and sometimes its not done vary smoothly. I don't think Subaru is poorly written, but the work almost requires him to be perfectly written and that is something hes not. Because we experience everything almost exclusively through him, I doubt the show will ever be at the level it has the potential to be. The medium its self is much better suited for full stories and even know we are only 30 or 40 percent done. Overall I think its a good show though, and anons are getting far too caught up in the contrarian nature of this board and the site as a whole.

TLDR Its not about death its about powerlessness. Subaru's action do not change by his ability to overcome death but by his ability to understand and deal with his sense of powerlessness.

Hahaha... Oh wow, this whole thread reeks Animesuki, Reddit or MAL.

Reviews of any show aside (which I have no issues against, since anime is actually being discussed) I gotta love how you sperglords get so defensive about this.

Also, why would OP expect good writing for this? Anyone should know this is being adapted from a WN, which is written by a fucking amateur. Hell, not just OP, fags in here criticise the poor writing of series like these even LNs are more often than not written by amateur authors. These aren't proper novels, written by people who understand the writing process and about literature in general, the people who write LNs/WNs are no better than the fucks who wrote Twilight or 50 shades.

Something else I find funny is how some fags bitch about OP making his own thread, rather than going to the Re:Zero thread. And though I hate thread spam - which this shit of a show has had a lot - this is how /a/ has always been. People don't have to limit themselves to the crappy generals, and anyone, even the people posting in the generals can see any thread (especially since we've had things like the Catalogue for a while).

I honestly wonder why is it this shitty shows gather the most retards. Fuck, not even the Naruto and Bleach threads attracted as many idiots as this show.

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>>146708780

I love being able to post this

>>146708780
>Hahaha... Oh wow
Stopped reading there.

What a shit thread, holy shit. Literally reeks of reddit and MAL.

>>146698079
There's a fucking general thread you hopeless moron, is it so hard to post your shitty blog there instead? Are you so afraid of being ignored because of your shitty blog?

>>146709148
>Literally reeks of reddit and MAL.
Maybe if you say it enough times and people will stop listening to t he people you disagree with.

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>>146698872
>The main character is a background character

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>>146698079
Fuck this shit it need to die we need work together to bring back watamote for a second season i know we do it.

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>>146704201
>>146704874
>>146705823
100% pure autism

Here's the (you) you so desperately crave, only not in your shitty threads but in this one

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>>146709798
>(you)
Amateur. When you attempt a (You), try to do it perfectly. For that, I give you a (You).

>>146698079
>he unoronically watched it not for the memes

I understand your disappointment OP but goddamnit you are baited as hell

fucking hell is re:tard fag always being this bad and obnoxious? the OP made proper criticsm instead of replying back with argument you decide to lash on him for not posting on your shitty cancerous general. Fuckin hell truly the shittiest fanbase on /a/ right now with that speshul snowflake delusion.

>>146710101
Kill yourself.

>>146710182
Your garbage anime almost tempt me to do it i just hope it work wonders for the fanbase.

>>146710101
> fucking hell is re:tard
When you decide to insult someone, be prepared to get insulted back. Start looking at yourself before you decide to make an ad hominem.

I'm having fun on the ride so far. I was getting pretty upset about Subaru's ineptitude but he redeemed himself later on with the whale so I have no complaints.

>>146710219
> i
Who is the retard here? Just wondering? That's right, (You).

>>146710101
Lrn2write, you fucking spic.

>>146710267
>>146710335
Well im not OP i could care less with your kindergarten insult but hey feel free focusing your time on me instead of addressing the point OP made surely prove my point for re:tard being the most unashamed entitled fanbase on /a/.

>>146710662
>it doesn't matter that I'm a retard showing no regard for global rule six because there's someone else here who isn't!
Refer back to >>146710182

>>146710623
>Lrn2write
learn to spell nguyen.

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>>146710662
> Another hypocritical ad hominem.
Anon, just shut up and look at yourself.

>>146710722
Learn to capitalize, idiot.

>>146710722
>nguyen

kek. I want Indonesians and PHfags to leave this site.

>>146710722
You need to go back.

>>146710784
Fuckoff SEAscum back to your own facebook anime group.

>>146710766
You dont tell me what to do.

>>146710841
Did I struck a nerve, nguyen? This site is for whites only, fuck off.

And where did facebook come from? Please go back to whichever hugbox you came from.

>>146698079
Is there a show in recent history that /a/ has despised more than Reeeee:Zero?

>>146710743
>muh ad-hominem
Who the fuck cares.

>>146710959
Every popular anime.

>>146710959
Fatefag

>>146710959
>>146711015
This happens literally every year, just compare pre-popularity threads with these

>>146711015
This

It's literally the only reason why this is getting shat on. /a/ religiously shat on Brotherhood and Tatami Galaxy when they were airing, and the shitposting was worse than with Reddit:Zero

>>146710959
Remfags. It's the fucking Remfags that makes people hate it.

>>146704489
Actually you're wrong and you literally have it the reverse of the actual reality, the characters are good to great, the plot and writing just torpedo the whole thing. It's very good at eliciting an emotional response and making the viewer attached to the characters (and I love how the two worst characters in your mind are the two characters that are most effective at getting the viewer to care about them) but the way the show handles the characters is all kinds of fucked up.

>>146710959
re:zero is legitimately worse than sao at this point

i'm not fucking joking. it has better world building, a better MC (barely) better characterization, and tone shifts that aren't so drastic

>>146711172
>/a/ has become so contrarian it's starting to like SAO
I thought you were better than /v/, what happened?

>>146711119

see

>>146711063

Rem made the show popular by multiple objective measures so now suddenly she's the worst character in the series and the show is overrated trash according to /a/.

>>146711201
how about you actually make a point Reddit:Fag

>>146711201
>the opinion of one faggot
>/a/
The opinion of someone that can't capitalize is worthless, man.

>>146711292
>The opinion of someone that can't capitalize is worthless
Words of wisdom, it's always some ESL or underage faggot.

>>146711201
SAO always has been universally liked, even more compared to reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:zero

>>146711332
>>146711292
Re:Zero fans, everyone.

thanks OP, i hate re zero now

>>146711332
Definitely some poorfag filthy asian.

>>146710963
You are not even using a fucking question mark. You are a hypocrite.

>>146711147
>the character are good to great
>The most developed character is the dumbass unlikable shit MC
>rem is nothing but waifubait in steroid
>shit 1-D side characters that only there to fill Moe stereotype checkbox since otakubuck lol.

>>146711361
Calm down, SAOfag.

>>146711358
Universally hated after second half aired, you mean.

>>146711387
> lol
Opinion discarded. >>>/out/.

>>146698079
>and some characterization from subaru(a neet that tries to find a stereotypical role to fill in an "anime" world).
For once OP was not a faggot.

>>146698107
>What am i getting out of subaru selfishly crying for 16 episodes exactly?
Joy?

>>146698163
>Look, i get it. We've had our string of gary stu's for the past couple of anime seasons. That doesn't mean that a character that comes along to be bad at everything is a good character. There's more to good character writing other than "look how cringey he is!". He's unreflective and events around him only happen to reinforce his lack of learning. I
Thank fucking god. Bless you OP.

Its shit for retards
Stop making threads about it
Cant wait for it to end so it gets forgotten

>>146701167
This guy gets it.

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The only real crime this show had was the predetermined rite of passage for Subaru that was overstocked with SUFFERING. The show tried to make it clear as possible that he hit rock bottom and suffered immensely, but it was mostly unnecessary and overdone.

But this is not as bad a show as the usual /a/sshole thinks it is. I see that OP doesn't make the point that the show is absolute shit, but our underage /a/ssburgers will suck every negative connotation about the anime in OP's post to reinforce their parroted meme that this show is shit. That way, they can continue to pretend they have elitist taste and continue to feel different and exceptional compared to the "average", "normal" anime viewer, who they believe are all concentrated in places like reddit or /v/, when most of them are actually right here in this board.

This show has its faults. However, it doesn't have that many to warrant a board-wide hate-train. But there was a time when people screamed, "Code Geass is shit" loud and often enough that newfriends actually believed it.

>>146713349
This anime is pure garbage dude.

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>>146713349
It's not that people think it's shit. It's that this show is massively overrated. There are people who unironically argue that this is the best anime to come out in years. Sucking subaru's dick as the second coming of anime jesus.

>>146713445
> Not realizing that it is either meaningless babble/lies or just false-flagging to create stigma.

>>146713445
>There are people who unironically argue that this is the best anime to come out in years.
A minority, in actuality. Even so, blindly bashing the show as a reaction to it is incredibly immature for a board full of people who love "diskushon".

>>146713546
I'm pretty sure that minority is false-flagging. That usually happens to create a stigma on a certain show.

>>146713545
You can't pretend to be this autistic >>146704874

>>146713546
Blindly praising is just as bad as blindly bashing.

>>146713606
>That usually happens to create a stigma on a certain show.
Yes, this reminds me. People were very conscious of false-flagging and reverse-trolling back when Madoka was airing. I guess even a newer, an even younger generation of posters is the majority right now. They can't even detect classic trolling.

>>146713643
>Blindly praising is just as bad as blindly bashing.
People who want to defend this show from "blind bashing" do not "blindly praise". I want to defend the show from unjust criticism, not put it up on a pedestal for all to see.

>>146713643
I highly doubt that. One can say that they are legitimately false-flagging and the other being babbling.

>>146713706
I'm not saying that they do. I'm saying that if you go to re:zero threads, most anons are blindly praising. Much more than people blindly bashing.

>>146699567
This, even though it's actually a watchable show though so that's already a plus to me.

>>146713819
> Blindly praising
> Waifufag wars over girls
> Ferrisfags
I'm not seeing any praising. This is just being strange.

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>>146713819
> Re:Zero threads
Something is strange here.

>>146713994
The fact that reeeeee:zero general threads is infested with this shows the quality of it's plot. If it's more worthwhile for fans to discuss waifus rather than the plot and characterization then there is something wrong with re:zero. Just as this >>146714032 post pic conveys

>>146714307
I don't know. Sounds just like the usual /a/ antics. I call something wrong with people in general. I'd prefer not to rate a show based on the fanbase itself. You can have good threads but have a bad show (Memeyoiga ironically had good threads). You can have a good show and have bad/strange threads. It depends quite frankly. I've been around to see just a couple of good Re:Zero threads, but now it has been full of shitposting and I forget the reason why. Maybe it was to ward off other shitposters?

Reee:Zero is bad because it's so predictable. Author sucks egg at creating plot twists.

>>146714475
Hmm... Fair enough, but I think it's a problem on both sides, but it's just limited to /a/ right now cuz I never browsed other sites for re:zero threads.

>>146714884
Have some sympathy for Re:Zero fans. Right now, there's been a liar that has been doing all kinds of crap while saying he's a fan and praising the series while proclaiming he's an LN/WN reader. Turns out he was a fraud upon further investigation. There's all kinds of people at the moment within a fanbase. And people have been lied to from the beginning by these kinds of people. So have some sympathy for them at least.
http://imgur.com/a/hTYMl

wow if a show can generate this much discussion and strong opinions it must be as good as everyone says it is
i think ima pick it up

>>146715126
Just stop, if you're waiting to get a reply, then please, get out.

Yes the plot is all over the place and no plotpoint or character gets the development they deserve. I am going to watch the rest of it but it didn't turn out very good which is a shame since i do enjoy the idea of a character being able to go back in time and fix something shitty.

>>146710959
every popular anime seems to attract the usual "oh i gotta give this shows some criticism because muh taste is superior than majority of this casual fag"

mal literally filled with these kind of faggots

Did some spic actually come in here to say "say that to my thread fucker not in here and see what happens"

What the carajo

Hey there, do you enjoy watching subpar quality harem+romance+comedy+drama+action anime with garbage characterization? Well look no further, because if so, Re: Zero should be right up your alley.

To put it simply, Re: Zero has absolutely no substance. It's another generic, modern anime that tries to be edgy, but fails miserably. Annoying-ass GENKI BOI protagonist? Check. Decently cute main chick with a ~*QUIRKY*~ personality? Check. Flat chested side girls who will probably end up falling for the protag in the future? Check. You have your tsunderes, loli's, weird faggots, mary sue's, mascot characters, etc. There is nothing unique about any of the characters that made any one of them stand out to me individually.

The story is a hodgepodge of various genres, and frankly it's a fucking disaster. It's like the writers wanted to come up with an edgy/dark madoka-esque deconstruction of the fantasy/SAO genre, and they failed miserably. Ooh, death, violence, and time travel? Sounds awesome right? Wrong. The contrast between the serious and comedic tone of the show is way too drastic, and this really detracts from the "serious" parts of the show (if you can even call it that). Essentially, everything seems like a joke or a gimmick because it feels too much like your generic comedy-harem-romance anime. A good example of shows that properly incorporated light-hearted scenes/romance with a serious tone would be stuff like Fate UBW or Steins;Gate.

>>146716013

This may be up to personal taste, but I felt absolutely zero sympathy for the protagonist because I couldn't stand his stupidity. It was also difficult to sympathize with him because I couldn't comprehend the reason behind his resolve to save everyone. Stupidbaru hardly develops any meaningful relationships with the people he decides to save (they interact for a couple of days at max), so his "resolve" to save them was quite confusing for me. It felt like the writers were attempting to employ a cheap trick to have the audience feel sympathetic towards Stupidbaru, but unfortunately it backfired pretty hard for me.

The music and animation were fine. Everything else was shit. The only people who would enjoy this show are probably 12 year-olds.

Story - 3/10
Art - 7/10
Sound - 6/10
Character - 1/10
Enjoyment - 2/10
Overall - 3/10

Update: Watched the remaining episodes at 2x speed and I still think it's shit

Episodes succeeding the maids arc are filled with tasteless tortureporn/miseryporn and forced drama, in addition to more frustrating and implausible characterization. The pacing is incredibly off and inconsistent due to the obligatory edgy cliffhangers at the end of every episode. The plot and subplots are always all over the place due to said poor pacing, along with the writer's choice to include inane drama every few minutes in one episode. At times I often found myself asking, "What's the purpose of this scene or conversation? How the hell did we reach scene B from scene A? What events/character development lead to Subaru acting like X instead of Y, and how?" Even after 16+ episodes, I can confidently say that the cashier from the first episode had better characterization than any of the main characters.

Overall, it's an overhyped show that honestly offers little material to actually analyze and think about. In terms of importance, overt drama, edge, and action far outweigh thoughtful plot and character progression.

>>146716013
Nice copy and paste from a troll on reddit.

>>146716013
> Edge
See here >>146704977

>>146699567
>Keep in mind that this is a show where four stupid teenage girls are running for queen, and the show expects you to take all of them seriously.
I don't get how is this a problem

The reason OP shouldn't post this in the main thread is because they will just post spoilers to prove their points.

OP should just watch up to 18 and reform his argument, Subaru is still struggling with feeling he is the designated hero despite other characters disagreeing and just pointing out his flaws to reject him.

That loop bullied Subaru the most and he is shot down constantly to drive home his complete failure even when he's trying.

>>146716867
Who cares about this point? They say it ruins the fun but I give the benefit of the doubt based on many misconceptions people have should be pointed out or elaborated if they needed to do so since they did not entirely get the idea. I wouldn't say it's the show's fault, it's that people perceive a lot less things on the matter.

>>146716867
>That loop bullied Subaru the most and he is shot down constantly to drive home his complete failure even when he's trying.

no amount of bullying and shooting him down is enough to make up for all the coddling and enabling that allowed him to be this much of a faggot in the first place
they should've shot his ass down for good a long ass time ago

>>146717129
Emilia shuts him down pretty quickly but Subaru fucks up at alarmingly high speeds and the damage is already done.
If Julius never got erased I doubt Emilia would have taken him back as quickly as she did

While Crusch could make him a man he should have gone to make money with Anastasia, she handles him sperging out pretty well and as long as he makes money she can overlook his fuck ups without coddling him.

>>146716957
I guess you're right

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Good job /a/. You really showed him.

>>146698239
I like you analysis. Please make it into a video and put it on youtube, so I can post it in Re:Zero threads to let everyone know how bad this series is.

>>146719544
>normal, male, animal

>>146719772
normal: 3
male: 2
animal: 2

Is this copy-pasta from reddit or youtube, anyone has the link?

>>146704977
In other words someone used a word to criticise your favourite anime, so you're claiming that this word doesn't exist so you won't have to admit this anime is shit.

>>146700413
>contributes to the thread with one line of greentexted meta shit and a smug reaction image while complaining about the post quality of others
Yeah, no. He's not better than anyone.

>>146698400
>in-depth well reasoned anime reviews are blogs now
I don't care if you kill yourself or not, but you need to leave.

>>146698872
This would be true if the world didn't practically revolve around Subaru him having a spoon in every meaningful soup.

I liked the show until it became mansion hijinks. Also Subaru's trauma and development is nonsensical and super plot convenient anime bullshit.

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I think you're overthinking it. It's a good show, a solid 7/10. Subaru is a breath of fresh air and is a great MC, despite picking the wrong girl. The characters are fleshed out enough, and have great interactions with each other. Everything that has happened so far was believable, every character has acted accordingly to how they were written. I really don't understand how people can compare this to shit like SAO where everything falls apart more and more with every episode. RE:Zero isn't a masterpiece but it's clever enough and unlike shows like SAO, people aren't wrong for liking it, even if its popularity is a little inflated.

>>146698079
>I don't like Subaru
The blog

>>146721655

> Everything that has happened so far was believable

How is holding a contest to chose which of 5 teenage girls should rule the country is believable?

How is Subaru repeatedly dying but being a afraid of dying believable?

>every character has acted accordingly to how they were written

And may were written to be complete retards so they wouldn't question what the hell is going on.

>>146699567
>Keep in mind that this is a show where four stupid teenage girls are running for queen
Why is this stupid considering we've had countless times minors as rulers in our own history?

>>146698163
>Look, i get it. We've had our string of gary stu's for the past couple of anime seasons. That doesn't mean that a character that comes along to be bad at everything is a good character. There's more to good character writing other than "look how cringey he is!". He's unreflective and events around him only happen to reinforce his lack of learning. It's just a small part on to the bigger shit show that is the anime.
>And that there lies on my biggest issue with the anime.
Which means you should go and watch the rest of the episodes before making a huge post, fuckin faggot.

>>146725132
All of those have had something to recommend them politically, though.

>>146725355
>it gets good from now on I-I swear

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>>146716692
>bunch of grown men actually looking up to bitchy teenage girls
>they all have bullshit super powers that make them "stronger" than everyone else

"Blessings" and "magic" are okay when used sparingly, but every other fucking little girl in this show is a demigod, and quite honestly it makes this show a lot harder to take seriously. It's a stupid plot device that the author is using just so he can make Subaru seem more powerless, but since he's clearly not a very talented writer, it seems as if he has no idea what subtly is and in order to show this he has to have everyone around him be Superman and have all sorts of bs nonsensical divine powers that kill him every other episode.

So in short, yeah, it is hard for me to take them seriously because without their superpowers they'd all just be stupid teenage girls, but the author would still write Crusch as really strong and able to beat big muscle men in a fight somehow. I mean this is a common trope in anime: the skilled little girl beats the shit out of the big scary man, and I have no problem with it if it's a comedy, but this is a serious show and if it expects me to take it seriously than it should be a little more fucking serious. I mean all this stuff with powerlevels and inherent skills and bony girls that don't give a shit about anything having god-like strength/powers for no reason at all is stupid and it makes me less able to take this show seriously. It's okay if it's one character every once in a while but when everyone is so powerful because of "magic lol" I get pissed.

>>146725363
You do realise we're talking about a world were religion is basically proven to exist and said religion tells them these people should become the rulers right?
And we've literally had 10- year olds ruling the country in our history dude.

This show makes me want to care about every character and their boohoo stories. Like what the fuck, am I suppose to care about this old man and his dead waifu? Am I suppose to care about these twin maid characters that somehow is important to the story when the characters themselves isn't even important in their universe? Also this "suffering" shit ain't even entry level. This whole show is absolute garbage you fags aren't any better than mal/reddit/fb other whatever shit that you mock on a daily basis.

>>146727509
Yeah, but the ten year olds that ruled did so for want of a better option. Felt and Emilia shouldn't even be considered in the running, regardless of what the Dragon says.

>>146728912
What you're saying makes no sense when we're basing ourselves off from a world which has a religion-proven system, there is no actual reason for you to not believe the dragon from a peasant perspective.
And there were always better options than putting someone with less than a decade old on power, but they still did it, shit, kids becoming rulers were the reason for revolutions many times in the middle ages.