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Kochikame ends after 40 years of publication.

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Weekly Shounen Jump’s, and all of Shueisha, longest running series has its ending scheduled for September 17th. Amounting to 200 Volumes and who knows how many chapters (they aren’t numbered like other Jump series).

Osamu Akimoto has worked continuously on his magnum opus, never missing a single WSJ issue; the final chapter will have the honor of being that WSJ’s issue cover, not even Dragon Ball and Naruto were graced with this, only Slam Dunk was ever honored this way, Kochikame will be the second series to have it.
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-09-03/osamu-akimoto-kochikame-manga-ends-on-september-17-after-40-years-of-serialization/.106073

Shueisha already has the series final volume cover ready, and the cover for the final WSJ issue the series will be part of.
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Wow I'm depressed; everything is ending this year...
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>>146696057
Fuck mods, just sticky this already.
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Araki is such a bro, he pays his respects to everyone.

Whenever they call other artists to draw something, he is in it.
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>>146696394
Fucking really, how could this not be a sticky?
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>>146696057
Did the same author remain for the entirety of its run? I only ever saw a few chapters here and there including one in a rather old issue of Jump I own.
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>>146696183
The cover was illustrated by Akimoto, Furudate, Oda and Horikoshi.
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>>146696677
>Did the same author remain for the entirety of its run?
Yes, Japan rarely change authors and artists for their manga, serious stuff like death and creative divergences must happen for them to drop out.

Osamu Akimoto has been there drawing and writing since day one.
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>>146696436
>Nami from One Piece starring as Reiko Akimoto.

Out of all Jump artists to draw Kochikame's poster fanservice girl they pick Oda, he should have drawn someone cartoony like Ohara.
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>>146696310
It's the end of an era. There are now only 3 series in Jump that did not premiere in the 2010s.
>Gintama, Dec '03
>Hunter X Hunter, Mar '98
>One Piece, Aug '97

Well, there's also Toriko from '08 but no one gives a shit about Toriko. Everything else is from this current decade. I wonder if any of these current series will get super long runs.

Who wants to bet on what's going to be the last of these three to end? Maybe Togashi will have enough hiatuses to run on longer than One Piece.
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>>146696797
Yeah, I'm aware, that's why I was asking. And man, that's simply amazing, such dedication.
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Niggerstream you attention whore motherfuckers, you entitled faggots better translate Kochikame's final chapter.

If there ever was a time you leeches should "steal" a project, that time is now.
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>>146696183
I was thinking of buying both of these, but they look heavy
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Is this the longest running manga of all time?
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>>146697133
Continuously published yes, as in it actually reached the 200 volumes mark in one contained series and never took breaks.

- Golgo 13 is older, like 8 years older, but the series has taken several breaks, like full years without publication.

- Dakoben is 5 older, but it is divided in many series.
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>>146696924
Gintama and Toriko are also on their ways out, too.
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>>146697076
>but they look heavy
Paper quality of a WSJ issue is toilet paper tier, that is to maintain its very small price, it is actually really light.
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>>146696924
Why is Toriko even still going?
I thought its sales were complete shit last year
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>>146697275
I know that Gintama is about to end, but I had no idea about Toriko. Is Toriko ending this year? It almost makes me think that Nisekoi and Bleach were given the axe all in the same year on purpose.

I can't help but speculate that Jump executives are in a state of panic worrying that they have no future big hits anymore and they need to clean house as much as they can (aside from Oda and Togashi for obvious reasons) with series that don't sell as well anymore. Like they're trying to get as many new series in as possible and hope that they strike gold like they did with One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach in the very early 2000s.
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>Osamu Akimoto is 62 years old.

Honestly I though he would be way older, all successful mangaka really start early.
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>>146697508
Curse the japanese and their immortality.
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>>146697495
Might be why Boku no Hero Academia got massive promotion (including an anime) barely a year and a half into publication.
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>>146697645
This isn't new. HxH got an anime a year after it started serialization
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>>146697645
The series has actually won some prizes that early though, so Jump is capitalizing in hoping that it becomes a hit, they didn't push it before gauging fan reaction.
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>>146697495
Haikyuu is selling really well, and Shokugeki no Souma is getting there as well
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>>146697645
>barely a year and a half into publication.
That's quite the standard procedure at Jump if they feel it has potential.

Naruto also got an Anime when the Manga was barely one year old.
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>>146697508
Rumiko Takahashi started Urusei Yatsura in 1978 at 21 years old and has also collectively published around 200 volumes of her works so far. Looks like a pretty similar case.
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>>146697762
Hero is selling beter than Shokugeki now. Central shit and Azami ruined the manga
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>>146696057
So will just Kochikame end in 2 weeks or will they end another manga like Takuan?
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>>146697495
>I can't help but speculate that Jump executives are in a state of panic worrying
Why? With the exception of AssClass all the series that's ended weren't really top sellers. Kochikame was also never really a top seller especially within the last decade, it was kept alive due to special conditions. Jump is in a state they've always been when they had to let go of longrunning series its really just out with the old and in with the new.
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>>146697805
Akira Toriyama was already sending his short stories for publication when he was 18 years old.
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>>146697904
>Takuan
If I was WSJ's Editor-In-Chief, I wouldn't swing the axe for a minor series at Kochikame's sendoff, that would be bad taste.
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>>146696394
>>146696490
Because barely anyone on /a/ actually cares about or follows it? Like 2% of it is even scanlated. There won't be a sticky when Golgo ends, either.
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>>146698091
I would be glad if my manga ended at the same time as Kochikame
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>>146696057
>>146696183
Shueisha should make a digital reprint of Kochikame's first issue in 1976.

Like Naruto got it when it ended, Weekly Shounen Jump re-released the issue Naruto debuted in its full online, it was the issue Rurounin Kenshin ended.
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>>146697940
It's not about cutting non-top sellers really in my mind, but more about trying GET more new top sellers.

Kochikame seems like it ended because it was the right time though, exactly at 200 volumes. Pure coincidence. Nisekoi, Bleach, AssClass, and Gintama all ending in the same year is kind of odd to me. I guess I'm just overthinking everything though.

>>146698145
At least honor it though, holy shit. This is history right here.
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>>146697508
Twenty-two isn't that early to make your debut, especially not in 1976. He just managed to get a hit on his first try, instead of having to waffle around with oneshots and cancelled series until something stuck.
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>>146698145
It's pretty big news even if most of the western world hasn't heard of it.

/a/ has sticked completely retarded things before, fuck's sake I remember some of KoG's gets being sticked in 2007, surely Kochikame is more deserving.
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>>146697495
>I can't help but speculate that Jump executives are in a state of panic
As long as they have One Piece, panic won't set in. I mean, I'm sure they want new hits and all, but there is no serious danger for them in the near future, and I'm sure they all know it.
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>>146698408
What gets stickied depends mostly on what either /a/ in general or the mod doing the stickying cares about, not really what's "notable" in a broader sense. And occasionally for containment.
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>>146697904
Natural endings can happen at any time, but cancellations are timed to happen to coincide within a few weeks of new series coming. 10 weeks after Red Sprite premiered is when Takuan dies.
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>>146697904
Samon and Sesuji might have been saved by Kochikame ending. Though I think they won't be able to recover anyways and probably will die the rounds after the next.
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>>146698312
Eh...kinda coincidental but we've known about Bleach and Gintama ending for a while now, Nisekoi should have ended years ago but rankings reflected how readers lost interest in it so now was pretty much the time to end it. AssClass from the beginning was going to be a short series and they really couldn't stretch the story out for another year. Kochikame ending this year came out of nowhere, out of all the series that pretty much could have went on for as long as the author was alive that was pretty much it but Akimoto probably thought it was time. And honestly Jump has always done this shit, they want everything in their line up to be a top seller, I know a lot of people keep saying they want another "Big 3" but really it seems that they want a repeat of where the magazine was at from 2004 to 2009 (D.Grayman, Prince of Tennis, Hitman Reborn, Eyeshield 21, Death Note, One Piece, Bleach, Naruto) where all its series reached record high volume numbers, had ongoing anime and a plethora of merch to back it up and despite magazine sales being below 3 million they were still ahead of teh competition.
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>>146696057
f ;_;>
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>>146696057
>only Slam Dunk was ever honored this way, Kochikame will be the second series to have it.

Such a honor, yet it doesn't pass the image of a glorious cover, at least not to me.
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>>146697232

When did Golgo take a break? Takao himself said he's never taken a break.
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>>146698994
I'm only certain that Slam Dunk got it by mistake. Not even Dragonball got it. Even the editors were surprised by Inoue's abrupt ending
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>>146697232
There are actually several other older series, too - Haguregumo, Yuuyake no Uta, Glass Mask, and Ouke no Monshou. No idea what the breaks have been like on the first two, but Glass Mask and Ouke no Monshou have taken plenty.
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Holy shit, take One Piece out and literally all the remaining Jump "hits" are barely 5 years old.
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>>146699223
>literally all
Gintama still exists for the time being.
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>>146699091
Dragon Ball didn't get it because no one knew it was going to end, had they knew it Toriyama could have gotten it too.
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>>146699091
>I'm only certain that Slam Dunk got it by mistake.
C'mon man, Slam Dunk literally made Japan care about Basketball and sold really damn well for a 6 years old series.

It certainly is one of the best and most popular series Manga of all time.
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>>146697805
How rad would it be to have 4 individual 100+ TV anime
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By most recent volumes, these are the only series in Jump above 100k.

2,387,144 One Piece
1,199,109 Hunter×Hunter
787,223 Haikyu
446,246 My Hero Academia
402,915 Bleach (ended)
387,481 Soma
352,609 Boruto
313,678 World Trigger
259,108 Gintama (ending?)
226,089 Nisekoi (ended)
203,095 Toriko (ending?)
121,023 Black Clover

WSJ is in trouble.
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>>146698452
Except Oda keeps killing himself working on One Piece.
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>>146699353
Mandatory breaks every month.
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>>146698279
They did it for Bleach ending and Gintama's anniversary too.
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>>146696057
Holy shit, this is like the Simpsons ending. What the fuck, why is so many big name "long as shit without end in sight" series ending within the last year?

Next you'll tell me One Piece will end by December 31st.
>and then Shonen Jump will roll over and die
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>>146699349
>2,387,144 One Piece
WSJ is not in trouble.
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>>146698408
>boring shit that's been running so long it's become a cultural touchstone
I imagine its just as bad as I imagine.
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>>146699392
Exactly, they have to force him to not die on them. One day they're gonna slack off, and then bam, Oda sends in another issue and dies from overexerting himself.
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>>146699353
Not anymore, Jump forces breaks on him, it has been happening for month now.

They are treating their remaining golden goose with care.
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>>146699447
>I imagine its just as bad as I imagine.
You might want to read that sentence out loud.
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>>146699319
No doubt about it Slam Dunk was one of the most popular and celebrated manga series in the 90's but not more significant than Dragonball, Hokuto no Ken, Kinnikuman, Dr. Slump and Gutsy Frog? Arguable.
>>146699308
Toriyama had to have given a notice of wrapping up to his editor or else they couldn't have published the chapter. They would have given him something special but not the front cover.
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>>146699353
>>146699477
Only because he already got ill over that shit and they got scared.

They don't want another Togashi on their hands.
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>>146696057
JUST
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>>146699431
Except that's a decline from last year. One Piece used to sell 2.75 million by it's 10th week, not anymore
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>>146698312
>>146697940
>>146697495
Gintama isn't ending this year. After a long time we seem to be getting non-serious stories again, the newest chapters seem to be even attempting to use NobuNobu as part of the comedy cast.

They might be trying to extend its run now. It could be just up to next year for the movie though, I guess, but it's certainly not ending this year anymore.
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>>146699540
Editorial's pretty incompetent. They didn't step in or had any clue how bad it had gotten until Kishimoto straight up blabbed to them that Oda was still drawing in his hospital bed. He's like a lemming with no survival instinct.
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>>146699349
According to Oricon, 32 manga had volumes break 400K in the first half of 2016, so having three regular series capable of doing that (and one of those capable of breaking 2M) doesn't seem like dire straits to me.
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>>146699091
Many Japanese B-ball players atribute their initiation and love for the sport because they read Slam Dunk when they were little kids.

Don't fool yourself, in just 6 years of serialization Slam Dunk became one of the most famous sports manga of all time.
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>>146696436
that mediocre oda art as usual
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>>146699572
I still don't see how that's trouble. It could decline at that same rate for five years and at the end of that it'd still be the second- or third-best-selling manga. Your definition of "trouble" is ridiculous if you think Jump is anywhere near it.
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>>146699177
>Haguregumo,
Monthly
>Yuuyake no Uta
Actually did went on hiatus
>Glass Mask
Ended and then relaunched from where it left off
>Ouke no Monshou.
Ended in 1991 and then relaunched

Lots of mangaka seem to be going back to their older series it seems. Kuramada relaunched Otoko Zaka recently the manga with the infamous "incomplete" ending.
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>>146699638
Also manga will still keep selling even after they fall below the top 50 chart. Soma, Boruto, World Trigger, and Gintama will probably go over 400k.
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>>146699519
>They would have given him something special but not the front cover.
Dragonball's final chapter has half of it in full color, another type of honor that 4 or so series in Jump's history has also gotten.
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Great series. Great cartoon run too.
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>Naruto ended
>Bleach ended
>Gintama is ending
>Kochikame ended

How do we save Jump?
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>>146699731
>Ended and then relaunched from where it left off
When?
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>>146699638
>>146699734
Also in all those lists Shuiesha manga are always in the top 50 compared to Kodansha and Shogukkakun manga which only have two or three listed.
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>still no sticky
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>>146699572
One Piece didn't become a juggernaut until the 10th anniversary. 2007 started a wave of hype that carried on to Strong World, Marineford, and Z causing a huge spike in popularity. The 20th anniversary won't be as big, but it should stop the declining sales for a year or two.
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>>146699813
When it moved from Yume to Bessatsu in 2008, she took a two year hiatus from writing it
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>>146699349
I thought BBClover was popular?
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>>146699875
>Shuiesha
That's true, Shueisha remains the top dog, they have most of the top-selling manga in Japan, but WSJ is in dire need of hits. Shueisha doing so well with non-WSJ hits will only put more pressure on WSJ since they're no longer the shining star of Shueisha.
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>>146699749
Weekly Shounen Sunday is in a more dire situation.
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>>146700016
It is, but that's the problem. Jump used to eliminate series that sold poorly, but the past few years there are a bunch of high-ranking series that sell badly. Hinomaru, Black Clover, Saiki, Kimetsu no Yaiba, all are hits in the magazine but have no sales potential.
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>>146699914
>One Piece didn't become a juggernaut until the 10th anniversary.
These were OP sales 10 volumes
*16,899,000 - HunterxHunter
>*16,500,000 - One Piece
*14,000,000 - Death Note
*10,100,000 - Assassination Classroom
**9,000,000 - Kimagure Orange Road
**8,000,000 - D.Gray-man
**8,000,000 - Prince of Tennis
**6,300,000 - My Hero Academia
**6,190,000 - Hikaru no Go
**6,000,000 - Bakuman
**5,500,000 - Haikyuu!!
**4,580,000 - Fuuma no Kojiro(Series End)
**4,200,000 - Toriko
**3,600,000 - Nuraryhiyon no Mago
**3,000,000 - Kuroko no Basket
**3,000,000 - Busou Renkin(Series End)
**2,400,000 - PSI KUSUO Sainan
**1,100,000 - Inumarudashi

That is insane. And of course this isn't bringing up the rankings in which One Piece had been top dog since 1998 only dropping once in 2005 to Naruto.
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>>146700104
But they have Fujita again now.
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>>146700178
>hikaru no go

and then it just turns to shit after ghost no longer was present.
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>>146700149
Is it just a change in market or something?

Like, people are buying less tanks in favor of digital or something.
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>>146699749
About the only series that might have hurt magazine sales was Naruto
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>>146700178
OP was a popular series, but it didn't become undisputed number one until the late 00s. With the combined hype of 10th anniversary, Strong World, Marineford, Timeskip, and Z launched it into the history books. it was selling over 30 million in one year at that point and has declined since.
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>>146700277
I think it's because consumers aren't as into magazine anthologies anymore. They pick up things based on word of mouth and don't bother flipping through Jump.

Attack on Titan, Tokyo Ghoul, One Punch Man, Seven Deadly Sins are all from smaller publications but got huge off internet buzz or from popular anime adaptations or both.
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>>146699749
Pretty much only the lack of Naruto is being felt on the sales chart, One Piece carries the whole magazine on its back.
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>>146700524
In the past five years, OP dropped a million in per volume sales. From 3.5 mil to 2.5 mil.
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>>146700637
because oda started the sanji arc. No one likes sanji
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>>146699914
Nah once Luffy takes down a Yonko the hype will come back and the series will begin selling like before.
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>>146696057
Someone will scan the last chapter right?
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>>146700847
Knowing mangastream's faggotry they'll translate the final chapter for clickbait. What I really want to see is the final congrats from the mangaka
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someone translate cooking papa
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>>146700847
Niggerstream's fame as attention whores and project robbers might come in handy now.
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>>146700771
I thought it was Franky that no one liked
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>>146700974
Someone started with 3 or so chapters.

That series actually has a continuous but slow plot, Papa's kid grows up into a young man as the years go by.

No one is going to brave through all that for free.
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Soon
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>>146701224
It's not going to stop at chapter 1000, forget it.
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>>146701224
Then Shounen Sunday will truly die.
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>Trying to doommonger One Piece of all things
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>>146701063
does his son become chef or office guy?
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>>146701224
When this ends so will I
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>>146701224
i have 50 volumes of this from /co/ fo all places.

The status quo of him having his identity remain secret is killer man.
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Can Ippo end already?
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>>146701580
Its been less than year in universe
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>June 16, 1996 – December 19, 2004

Oh wow, the anime ran for a while.
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>>146701663
How do you solve 971 cases in less than a year
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>>146700497
>Attack on Titan
>Tokyo Ghoul
>Nanatsu no Taizai
>from smaller publications
Nigger, those are each from like top-five magazines, what are you even saying?
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>>146696436
>Oda ruining everything

Everytime..
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>>146701715
Ask Aoyama
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>>146701715
we aren't supposed to take the timeline that seriously, but if you want to, just assume so of those were AU or non-cannon
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>>146701715
The same way the Simpsons keep celebrating Halloween every same year.

>>146701737
He was right on Attack on Titan, Bessatsu Shonen Magazine was literally nothing before Titans crossed its path.
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>>146701918
>He was right on Attack on Titan, Bessatsu Shonen Magazine was literally nothing before Titans crossed its path.
False. From October 2008 to October 2009 (SnK began in September 2009), Bessatsu Shounen was the third best-selling manga magazine. In fact, its rank has fallen since then- it's been like sixth or seventh over the last year.

Source: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-01-18/2009-japanese-manga-magazine-circulation-numbers
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>>146697645
>>146697762
>>146697940
The problem about the new series is that none of them are a big hit.

Yes, Hero Academia, Shokugeki and Haikyuu do indeed have good volume sales but for how long?

And that's not the main issue, the main issue is that they're not success outside of Manga, none of those series are capable of carrying a long running anime and before you meme against long running anime, they're the ones that make more money.

Yes those 3 got an anime and it did well but the hype dies until the next anime, and even if it does moderately good it will never get worldwide recognition with 13 episode seasons.

One Piece and Naruto have people tied to their seats since since 15+ years, the anime can support itself and it doesn't run because it needs to sell volumes but like I said because it's able to support itself.

Bleach was cancelled, fine, but it ran for like a decade and it was a worldwide hit.

These new series don't have that, that's why JUMP is desperate to push a new hit whatever it takes.

Pic unrelated
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>>146702059
Make that fourth, because I'm retarded and missed Coro Coro edging it out for third.
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>>146701674
Yet no english subs, at least not one I could find.

There some spanish subs though.
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>>146700497
>Attack on Titan, Tokyo Ghoul, One Punch Man, Seven Deadly Sins are all from smaller publications
You shouldn't talk about things you have literally no idea about.
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>>146702066
It's a different time though because the idea of the ongoing shounen adaptation is not popular anymore. If this was say any time before like 2005 or something, you can bet all three of those would have had ongoing anime series
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>>146702066
Bro, Naruto, One Piece and ESPECIALLY Bleach weren't big hits out the gate. Hell the only Jump series that was a big hit out the gate were Dr. Slump, Dragonball and HxH. It took years for them to catch on and gain their status, its kinda silly to expect these fresh series to have the same status when they're not even 5 years old. Souma I don't really feel is going to last long because there's nowhere you can go after Azami's downfall so regardless if it becomes a big hit or not will probably not matter much if it doesn't have any market potential beyond the manga.
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>>146702362
Soma can always go beyond japan after they beat Azami, like against other schools
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>>146702066
>the main issue is that they're not success outside of Manga, none of those series are capable of carrying a long running anime and before you meme against long running anime, they're the ones that make more money.
A long running anime nowadays is a pipe dream due to the every increasing competition between older series and the ever decreasing TV viewership as streaming starts to take dominance so the only thing people watch on TV on a regular basis are Sazae-san, Conan and Shin-chan. Even Pokemon is struggling in the ratings. Its not really worth much of an investment for a 400k increase in sales.
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>>146702338
>It's a different time though because the idea of the ongoing shounen adaptation is not popular anymore.
It's not about the idea, it's about money.

>If this was say any time before like 2005 or something, you can bet all three of those would have had ongoing anime series
But what-ifs are irrelevant.

Long running series make more money, simple as that, they have more recognition and like I said they're able to support themselves. One Piece doesn't have an anime because the manga needs it, One Piece has an anime because the anime sells.

>>146702362
>Bro, Naruto, One Piece and ESPECIALLY Bleach weren't big hits out the gate.
Sure.

>It took years for them to catch on and gain their status, its kinda silly to expect these fresh series to have the same status when they're not even 5 years old.
You're not getting my point here.

JUMP is trying to make those series a big hit right now because they need to big hits, Souma and Haikyuu will not run for too long.
Hero Academia has a chance but the author burns through arcs as lightning fast pace and honestly the entire idea won't catch up to the level of Naruto or OP anymore, Heroes are just not as interesting or innovative.

They tried with Toriko, sure Toriko is does well enough but it's not a huge hit. They're going to try Black Clover and Hero Academia now for sure, but the same thing about Hero Academia appies to Black Clover, BC won't surpass Fairy Tail or Deadly Sins to say an example, direct competition.

And the big problem is that they're not that much of a profit outside of manga,
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>>146697508
Keanu?
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>>146702674
>for a 400k increase in sales.
Jesus do I need to repeat it 200 times? One Piece money makes enough to support itself for years, Naruto is the same.

It's not about Selling volumes, it's about selling anime, toys, pachinko, dildoes or whatever the shit the japanese and gaijin feel like buying, which is much more money than manga sales. Videogames too, Naruto alone pumps million seller games every year and they're all rehashes.
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Kinda wanna see how the cover for the last chapter of slam dunk looks like.
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>>146702919
>>146698994
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>>146702362
>Bro, Naruto, One Piece and ESPECIALLY Bleach weren't big hits out the gate.
You need to be more specific, what do you mean by 'big hits' because all three were popular early on.
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>>146702751
>JUMP is trying to make those series a big hit right now because they need to big hits
But they do that all the time. They're being promoted because they're popular not because Jump is trying to force it down people's throats in hopes of striking gold.
> Heroes are just not as interesting or innovative.
Neither were pirates or ninjas, hell ninjas were a fucking joke in Japan before Naruto made them "cool" again by making them military commandos.

>Toriko
The issue with Toriko is that they pushed it as something it was not and never had a chance at being, HeroAca and Souma all met their expectations and there's still demand for them while Toriko kept dropping in sales and ratings as it went on. Completely different cases.
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>>146700178
What the hell is this?

Why is Saiki in this list?
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>>146702911
>One Piece money makes enough to support itself for years, Naruto is the same.
STOP USING THOSE TWO AS EXAMPLES. OP and Naruto has been running over over 15 years and are brand institutions at this point, they're going to make money because they have gained a plethora of fans over the years and have proven to be successful. If you want to make a point give us their numbers on the exact same timeframe as HeroAca and Souma. They weren't making money in the millions I'll tell ya that.
>>146702990
You need to ask the other anon that question because his standards of big hits seem different from everyone else.
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>>146702751
>JUMP is trying to make those series a big hit right now because they need to big hits
You make it sound like this doesn't happen like all the time.
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>>146703092
>Neither were pirates or ninjas, hell ninjas were a fucking joke in Japan before Naruto made them "cool" again by making them military commandos.

Yes and Hero Academia is not doing anything for Heroes to be "new" or innovative. Naruto since the first volume made Ninjas cool when they weren't before.

You can change Heroes to Ninjas and nobody would care since they don't have anything particular to them and the whole hero thing could be pretty much everything.

I mean there's a firefighter manga by the guy from Soul Eater that is already more """"innovative"""""" in a way(it's not, they're both shonen shit), you expect heroes to do the shit they do, you don't expect firefighters do go around doing super shit. Toriko made cooks into planet busters, that's pretty interesting too in a way.

That's my point don't know if I explain myself well enough
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>We are witnessing the end of the long running manga business model.
How will Sueisha recover from this?
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>>146697133
Choujin Locke.
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>>146703403
Just because One Piece will be the oldest manga in Jump going forward doesn't mean the long running manga is dead
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>>146703253
>STOP USING THOSE TWO AS EXAMPLES. OP and Naruto has been running over over 15 years and are brand institutions at this point, they're going to make money because they have gained a plethora of fans over the years and have proven to be successful.

And that's exactly my point you retard. They became so popular that their anime started 20 years ago and it's still running and people still sit every fucking day of the week to watch it.


Souma, Haikyuu or Hero Academia don't have that, they have short series with hype boosts that die down, in the end those short series are only there for those momentary boosts and to sell volumes, while the real big hits sell manga volumes by themselves and then have an anime to sell everything else ranging from socks to fuckdolls.
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>>146699349
It would not be the first time.
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>>146701224
Re:Soon
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>>146703556
Is it true that he is going crazy (literally)
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>>146701224
I doubt it. It sells very well.
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>>146703582
He was a pro boxer, he maybe has brain damage
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>>146703638
>was
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>>146700149
Saiki is a gag manga. It's not going anywhere.

You retards seem to forget that the main goal for JUMP is to sell JUMP because the magazine needs to keep attracting people, everyone loves gag manga in Japan, you need one of those in the magazine because people read them to take a break and laugh their ass off.

The problem is stuff like Hero Academia, selling 400k right after the first anime hype is not good enough for a battle shonen, even Haikyuu is outselling it.

>>146700016
120k for a new manga without anime IS popular.
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>>146703349
>those feet
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>>146703488
He's saying not to use those as examples because a long running shounen adaptation doesn't work today so even bringing that up as a factor is wrong
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>>146702059
>From October 2008 to October 2009 (SnK began in September 2009), Bessatsu Shounen was the third best-selling manga magazine
Monthly Shonen Magazine and Bessatsu Shonen Magazine are not the same thing. Monthly has been published for decades, Bessatsu is less than ten years old and didn't even make that list.
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>>146703638
Heavily implied. He couldn't draw a straight line one chapter recently
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>>146703727
There's plenty of fanservice in the manga.
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>>146703349
>Naruto since the first volume made Ninjas cool when they weren't before.
Yeah but ninjas weren't innovative so I fail to see your point. In fact all Kishimoto did was ripoff Ninku from 4 years before. HeroAca never really set out to be innovative it was just made because the mangaka likes superheroes and it shows with his linework and odes to western comics.

>You can change Heroes to Ninjas and nobody would care since they don't have anything particular to them and the whole hero thing could be pretty much everything.
The appeal n both series are largely different. Naruto's claim to fame was its down to earth sensibilities of ninja warfare (in the part one) by essentially making them military commandos instead of losers in black pajamas like they had been before and people eventually caught on to the characters. HeroAca's appeal according to credits is the sense of wonderment and positivity in the world and characters while artist love and appreciate the nodes to western media. People do like the hero aspect in series and that's probably why it has an appeal since ninjas aren't considered "the bees knees" anymore.

>I mean there's a firefighter manga by the guy from Soul Eater that is already more """"innovative"""""" in a way(it's not, they're both shonen shit), you expect heroes to do the shit they do, you don't expect firefighters do go around doing super shit.
That manga literallyhas nothing to do with firefighters or work within teh grounds of actual firefighting, its just a motfit to give the series something to standout because beneath the surface it really is just a generic shounen whereas HeroAca does take aspects from superhero comics right down to the layout of color pages and the even the way how its paneled with SFXs written in English instead of Japanese.
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>>146703828
Hero Academia is a generic shonen with superhero elements.

Fire Brigade is a generic shonen with Firefighter elements.

Please stop being blinded by fanboyism. They're both the same trash.
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>>146699349
Where did you get those numbers from? What volumes? Source?
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>>146703828
>Ninku will never be translated
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>>146703714
>The problem is stuff like Hero Academia, selling 400k right after the first anime hype is not good enough for a battle shonen, even Haikyuu is outselling it.
Do yourself a favor and stop talking out your ass. Seriously nobody knows what the fuck Shueisha's exceptions for a manga that's only two years old at this point because all you're doing is comparing its success to THE BIGGEST MANGA SERIES OF ALL TIME.
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>>146704008
>mfw
I saw the Ninku movie when I was younger. That shit was amazing. And also, man Naruto ripped off it something fierce
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>>146703960
I'm just going to give you your (you) so you can go since you don't feel like making an argument.
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>>146703828
Hero Academia doesn't use English sound effects though you filthy secondary
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>>146699345
its a dream i know i will never achieve anon
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>>146704099
>Comparing it with haikyuu
>Biggest manga of all time

What are you on mate?
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I mean come on, it's only 9 volumes
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I miss Psyren
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>>146704157
>Hero Academia doesn't use English sound effects
At least read the fucking manga
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>>146704257
Nobody cares this is not a boku no pico thread, go back to your general.
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>>146703714
>>146704181
>The problem is stuff like Hero Academia, selling 400k right after the first anime hype is not good enough for a battle shonen, even Haikyuu is outselling it.
Haikyuu isn't a battle shounen you fucking retard
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>>146704304
Not him, but I'm pretty sure this conversation was about Jump manga
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>>146704317
>Haikyuu isn't a battle shounen you fucking retard

Which is exactly my point, are you illiterate?
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>>146703714
see
>>146700178
Its sold more than Haikyuu 10 volumes in at the same time frame.
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>>146704359
Your point is that you're comparing a sports manga to a battle shonen.
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>>146704257
I knew you were going to pull off a dumb exception like that but that still doesn't mean you were right, you stated the series use sfx in english and while it's the case in some scenes like the one you posted the rest of the manga has the normal katakana sfx
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>>146704447
Yeah, and battle shonen are supposed to sell more.
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>>146704497
>battle shonen are supposed to sell more.
Found the retard
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>>146704552
It's the main Shonen Jump audience.
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>>146703714
> even Haikyuu is outselling it.
>even Haikyuu
Nigger, what? Haikyuu is outselling literally every ongoing manga not named OP or SnK right now.
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>>146704483
>I knew you would prove me wrong but that doesn't mean you're right
FTFY. You're wrong kid. Deal with it.
> you stated the series use sfx in english and while it's the case in some scenes like the one you posted the rest of the manga has the normal katakana sfx
He mixes both of it. But for action scenes he uses English primarily. Read the manga next time before spouting stupid shit.
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>>146703743
Oh, fuck me, then. In my defense, apparently Monthly used to be called Bessatsu like twenty years before I was born.
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>>146704565
Shounen is just a demographic. Among the most popular titles in Shounen Jump were gag and sports manga.
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>>146704483
BnHA use both english and katakana in sfx. Every single smash, Bakugou attacks, Iida engine going "DRRR", and any big action have english sfx. Other much smaller actions such as a simple hit or load noise are in Japanese.
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So the guy who wrote it, how many grandkids does he have now?
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>>146699349
So are you going to give me source or not faggot?
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>>146704723
At least you can take pride in knowing at least you don't think every weekly shonen is Jump.
Seriously, how the fuck are some people able to convince themselves of this.
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>>146704929
>Seriously, how the fuck are some people able to convince themselves of this.
Do you really think people here read more than a couple of manga series every week? Why do you think we keep getting people saying Nanatsu no Taizai is from Jump?
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>>146696057
All I know about this series is from Gintama, Sorachi seems to respect the guy a lot.
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>>146704994
>Do you really think people here read more than a couple of manga series every week?
Plenty of anons read lots of manga, most of them just shy away from the weekly shounen threads for obvious reasons.
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>>146701224
To be brutally honest, I would throw a party once this shit is over, of course, only my two brothers would come, but fuck it.
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>>146705148
New chapters just started a countdown to chapter 1000. It's unlikely it'll end, but they'll do something big for it.
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>>146702066
The only anime of those you've mentioned that carried its own weight was Bleach. One Piece, HxH and specially Naruto never sold half worth a damn.
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>>146705693
That's not how it works you dumbfuck. Anime sells merch, licenses and all that.

You can watch Naruto anywhere in the world, do you think they get it for free?
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Jump will be fine, stop being autistic you fucks.
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Toriko getting divine intervention, it will survive through the ending of others.
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>>146708554
Toriko looks like its in the last arc, there's nowhere else to go after building up Neo so much and the blazing fast pace its in.
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>>146708554
I sure hope so. I want that rumored "space arc" to become a thing.
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>>146699349
Damn, in the end Bleach still reallly sold well, sounds weird for WSJ to want to canel it.
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>>146701224
unlikely

new volumes still hit the top of the charts. it's hard to believe

Kochikame, despite my loving it, hasn't hit the charts until this 40th anniversary/ending hit.

or should I say NEW Kochikame doesn't sell. There are however three reprint volumes published per month (Monthly Kochikame and 2 volumes of Jump Remix) that still sell.

Kochikame, Fukumoto and Jojo seem to be the perennial favorites of the convenience store reprint market for squatting Yankii and overworked sarariman
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