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Macross Delta (マクロスΔ)

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>>146670140
Is Mirage going to dance too?
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>>146670285
she is going to <<dive into the fireworks>>
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>>146670323
Is this the birth of new epic meme?
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Checklist:

- Freyja's song must surpass Mikumo or reach same level.
- Romance ending Hayate x Mirage.
- Freyja MUST survive AND be happy loved by the entire galaxy.
- Mikumo must survive and legally be adopted by Freyja
- Windermere short life fixed using the ruins power.
- Kaname dumping Arad and confessing to Messer 's grave.
- Roid dead by Keith's hand or life sentence.
- Isamu's cameo because Myung is lady M
- Berger death as painful as possible.

Simple requirements for Delta's legacy to be secured for 7+ years until the next series.
For once, let everyone win, no KIA/MIA/bittersweet endings like Frontier or Zero please Kawamori, the fans will reward you.

no tragedy end like Mirage on last scene going to Hayate's mother to inform of his death, or taking care of a fully VAR'd Hayate please no
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>>146670505
>>146670323
>IP count didn't increase
>It's the same retarded shitposter reposting his "memes" in every thread
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Mirage: Hayate, formation Planet Dance!
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>>146670585
Well shit, there's dead generals for dead show.
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>>146670505

Right now if they don't tell me who Lady M is that alone will ruin Delta for me. They've built her up so much at this point that to not have her show up or even tell us who she really will piss me off to no end.
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>>146670949
It's Minmay.
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>>146670949
>They've built her up so much at this point
By mentioning her name 4 or 5 times?
I can't understand why anyone would care about her. Her identity really doesn't make any difference. There are more important questions like whose clone Mikumo is (and what her role was) or why Immeldad dropped the bomb.
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How many more deathflags will Hayate get this week?
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>>146671113
At least Mr. Birler from Frontier is relevant compared to lady M. Both are founders of PMC with a personal goal to achieve; Both are mentioned several times in the show, but the only thing different is Mr. Birler was introduced and none on lady M. Mr. Birler's intentions is known and serves as a plot device whereas lady M is just something hanging around the show expecting audience to guess her identity and determine whether her intentions and affiations with the NUNS is relevant to the plot.
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>>146671113
What if the failed experiment that the CIA mentioned has something to do with Lady M and the origins of Mikumo? Mind you that almost all researchers present in the Macross universe are shady as fuck with shenanigans under their sleeves.
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>>146670505
But Mirage taking care of a sick bed VAR'd Hayate is a legit great ending.
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>>146671579
>Mr. Birler's intentions is known and serves as a plot device
He was completely irrelveant for the plot. President, Leon and Grace wanted Frontier fleet to get to Vajra planet and those 3 were already moving the plot to its final encounter with Varja Queen. There was no point in introducing Mr.Birler who had exactly same goal, but for a different reason. He existed in Frontier just to make Minmay/Megaroad-01 reference. They even dropped him from movies.
Lady M is just nostalgiawank character too.

>>146672012
>failed experiment that the CIA mentioned
You mean NUNS in episode 14? It was failed operation, not experiment. Most likely it is something related to Immeldad. I think there is just no time for "NUNS experiments" plot development.
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Have some Freyja to start off your weekend.
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>>146673040
And some Freyjafag Hayate. I will never look at Hayate the same after reading the novel translation of the first chapter
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>>146673218
Need to find that chapter then. Did someone link it in earlier threads? Didnt follow macross threads for a while.
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>>146673517
Literally previous thread (and one before that).
https://gubabablog.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/macross-delta-vol-1-chapter-1.pdf

Though anons already spotted one translation mistake. In the 2nd to last sentence it says that mirage was "terribly beautiful", but original says "terribly ugly and literally who".
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>>146673517
https://gubabablog.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/macross-delta-vol-1-chapter-1.pdf
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>>146673660
>>146673654
Thank you, I was just about to dig old threads. Hopefully there will be full novel translation.
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>>146673654
>Though anons already spotted one translation mistake. In the 2nd to last sentence it says that mirage was "terribly beautiful", but original says "terribly ugly and literally who".
[CITATION NEED]
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>>146673654

>In the 2nd to last sentence it says that mirage was "terribly beautiful", but original says "terribly ugly and literally who".

Ah, Frejyafags, never change. I'm looking forward to your ultimate defeat.
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Pilots and their singers.

UTA WA _________!!
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>>146673972
HEIKI
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>>146673972

Delete this picture.
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>>146673972
>UTA WA _________!!
Himesama dakko
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>>146673654
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When will Ernest sing "Watashi no kare wa pilot?"
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>>146673972
Those are some shitty pairings
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>>146675832
They're the same pairings from the show. Though if you meant shitty in terms of development, then yeah, only two of the couples work well.
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>>146675832
It's pilot-singer pairing, I don't know why but I really like Mirage-Makina pairing.
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>>146676892
I don't know but I feel like this scene need both Freyja and Mirage.
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>>146673654 #
>>146673660 #
I wonder how they would alter that scene from Episode 22, the author could make that scene in favor one of the girls instead of that triangle crap from the anime. He could go something like:

>but suddenly the song began to sound different, I felt all sparkly inside again, and then I could feel Freyja's warm presence once again

or

>but then I hear an angelic voice calling out to me, and there I see Mirage, in tears, embracing me

Your pick, boys.
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>>146672281
He's dropped from the film because the film has a different plot. Kaifun (made a cameo) and Kamzin are also dropped from DYRL, and Dornkirk was dropped from A Girl in Gaea. That doesn't make them irrelevant to their respective series.
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>>146677850
I already explained why Mr.Birler as a character was completely irrelevant for the plot of Frontier. Yet you completely ignored it. I didn't expect anything else from tripfaggot.
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hayate x mikumo otp
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I love fanarts of HayaFre with kids bc it means they did the doodly do
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Would Freyja still call him Hayate or Hayate-senpai?
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>>146678498
>>146678729
Cat husbando and cat waifu.
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>>146676132
Seems like the whole pilot/singer thing is some sort of vestige of an older concept of the show that still hadn't been completely removed by the point that they started work on 0.89. It's pretty much completely absent from every other episode except for the relationships between Kaname & Messer and Freyja & Hayate.
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>>146677200
>suddenly the shrill cacophony broke and my mind began to clear. I looked down from my VF to see what remained of Freyja, split asunder by the very bullets her vile song had forced me to fire in unbridled frenzy. I could rest peacefully now knowing her tainted words could no longer control me and I could find comfort in the loving embrace of Chuck.
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>>146678058
Is he non-essential to the main plot? Yes. Is he irrelevant, not really unless we're going on the basis that only the main plot is what matters. Birler brings about an opposing motivation to wanting to get the Vajra and their ability to fold without worrying about fold faults. His views also serve as a counter to Alto's view that the galaxy is too small for multiple people. Ultimately his purpose is to bring another perspective to the Vajra question as well as the issue of galactic expansion. And a character who brings in a different perspective isn't irrelevant as that character helps to open dialogue about the themes of the story.
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>>146679041
Back when Chuck actually got character development HayaChuck wouldn't have been such a bad pairing... Not that there was any sexual tension there, but they were pretty good bros which is a good first step.
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>>146679003
And Keith and Heinz. They share that same pilot/idol thing too, except their relationship is set up to improve by the end.
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>>146679169
>Birler brings about an opposing motivation to wanting to get the Vajra
It's not opposing to anything, it's 4th motivation after president's, Leon's and Grace's. It's absolutely irrelevant. And ultimately it's the same shit as president's and partially Leon's goal - kill Varja for the benefits of humans. It's not another perspective, it's absolutely identical to Leon's. That's why they both revealed Alto that Varja are not actually aggressors, but they need to be destroyed anyway. Bilrer and Leon had shared views on Varja.

>His views also serve as a counter to Alto's view that the galaxy is too small for multiple people.
And this is some plain bullshit, Alto never had such views. You're just retarded frontierfag and nothing else.
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>>146680063
It is an opposing view. Leon's goal is to set himself as the ruler of the galaxy using the Vajia. Grace's goal is to mind control everyone through implants. Birler's goal is benign. He's trying to connect a galaxy that's too disconnected.

>Alto never had such views
So you missed episode 12 and the second half of the series where Alto decides to go full exterminate bugs.
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>>146677200
>I heard my mom calling for me and I wanted to tell her to fuck off, but then a voice, like my dad's, pulled me from trance. I MISS YOU DAD.
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>>146680881
Sasuga Kawamori. Hayate's daddy complex is stronk
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>>146680742
>He's trying to connect a galaxy that's too disconnected.
Wasn't this just an excuse and his real endgame was to use that to find Minmay?
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Well I don't know about you guys, but I'm having the time of my life laughing about Hayate's daddy complex.
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>>146681088
I think it's pretty original it's muh dad when is always muh mom.
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>>146681088
Can't stop imagining him and Freyja doing it on his dad's VF-22 while she's wearing his old pilot uniform.
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>>146680975
The two aren't mutually exclusive, and you could argue that Minmay going missing was what shaped that viewpoint for Birler.
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>>146680742
So why did you omit president? He wanted to find home for 5 million people on board of Frontier fleet. He wanted to kill Vajra for benefits of humans. And that was secondary goal of Leon too (after obtaining power, obviously).

>So you missed episode 12 and the second half of the series where Alto decides to go full exterminate bugs.
>galaxy is too small for multiple people
>Vajra
>people
You're retarded. And Bilrer's view wasn't counter to that anyway since Bilrer wanted to exterminate all Vajra too. The opposite of that would be Ranka's view that humans and Vajra can peacefully co-exist together.

Seriously, you just stupid Frontier fanboy who thinks he needs to defend his fav anime even when no one attacks it. It's not surprising that a character with less than 3 minutes of screen time in 25 episode anime is irrelevant for plot and main character development. But he made possible a subtle reference to SDF/DYRL so it's not like he was completely pointless in anime.
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Bump this shit
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So if Alto had a mommy comples and Hayate has a daddy complex, will the next MC have a sister/brother complex now?
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>>146684027
>>>/m/14690341
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>waiting 7 days for a new episode again and again
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>>146673972
Heiki~
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Hayate and Freyja should have a daughter. Next Macross could have her as the MC, as a pilot who sings as she fights. She gets her pilot genes from Hayate and her song genes from Freyja.

And she'd inherit her parents abilities to ride the wind. Also she'd use her songs to boost her own pilot abilities.
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>>146685567
>Freyja
>winning

Greatest meme ever
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>>146685897
>using a meme to call something else a meme

Amazing
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fucking kek
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>>146686955
>I mean, dose tiddies...
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Now I want pie. I'm so hungry, senpais
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>>146682389
>So why did you omit president?
Because the President never makes his argument known to the main cast with the exception of at most Catherine. With that said, Birler and the President's goals aren't ultimately the same.

>Vajra
>people
You're being pedantic. The "people" doesn't have to refer to humanoids. The Vajra are a race. Alto, takes on the view after the events on Gallia 4 that the galaxy isn't big enough for different races to co-exist.

While Ranka holds a counter viewpoint on human Vajra relationship, Birler presents a counter viewpoint on the possibilities of using Vajra fold quartz.

Also, Frontier isn't even my favourite Macross series.
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>>146688645
>With that said, Birler and the President's goals aren't ultimately the same.
But they are completely the same in terms of plot and character motivation/development. It doesn't matter if Varja should be killed to get their planet, unlock instant fold travels or anything else. It's the same trope of exterminating other species for the benefit of humans.

>Birler presents a counter viewpoint on the possibilities of using Vajra fold quartz.
Also in episode 23 it was explicitly stated that both Leon and Bilrer has the same goal of getting fold quartz from Varja. They both needed it to unlock new form of instant space travel. One wanted to get money and power with it, other wanted to find his waifu, but it doesn't change a damn thing.

I don't think there is anything to discuss if you can't understand such simple idea.

Also I can't imagine anyone else except you to use word "people" for Varja. And again Bilrer's view wasn't counter to Alto's since Bilrer wanted to exterminate all Vajra too.
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>>146685105
Berger Stone is best idol, would buy weapons and anime figures from him.

Actually, he and Mirage are the only characters saving Delta from being boring as shit
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mikumo isn't a clone

cloning is illegal in the macross universe
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>>146692047
>cloning is illegal in the macross universe
You just went full retard.
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>>146670323
<<Have you finally found a reason to fight?>>
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>>146693330
A world without...

FREYJA
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Bumping this shit
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>>146695587
Fuck off.
There'll be a new thread when the episode airs.
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Just rewatched the first few episode, those were so good and fun compared to the few latest episodes because it turns from Macross Delta to Freyja Delta.

I miss ikenai borderline and fun threads we had.

What went wrong?
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>>146697189
>Implying Freyja isn't fun
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>>146697351
>fun
She's the new Ranka
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>>146697503
>calling Freyja Ranka 2.0 meme

You must be a miragefag
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>>146697503
You just went full retard, anon.
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>>146697189
>What went wrong?
these
>>146697503
>>146698090
>>146698395
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>>146697189
>What went wrong?
People got used to the same topics, discussions and shitposting.

Also making 2nd cour when they didn't even plan to do it and when they clearly had not enough ideas for another 13 episodes.
I re-watched few episodes too and I noticed how difference is huge. It's not only pacing, it feels like first 13 episodes are more polished and detailed. On top of plot and action they have a lot more character interactions, scenery porn and better world building. Like for example how much did they show us interiors of their Island class ship? They are living on it for 8 episodes yet it had less scenery than a cat planet after a single episode 7.

Hopefully we will get another Frontier treatment with 2 movies. One retelling first 13 episodes of Delta with improved animation and battles and 2nd movie with complete different and improved story.
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Did Japan draw any Ernest/Gramia porn? I want ahegao Gramia.
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>>146698090
You don't have to be a Mirage-fag to see that Freyja shares a lot of traits with Ranka.
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>>146701168
Imo Mirage is more like Ranka. Insecure, mopey, meltran, interacts less with MC than best girl, afraid to be romantic, etc. Except Mirage is worse, not because she's a bad character, but because she's halfassed.
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>>146697189

Macross Delta was originally pushed on the idea of two star crossed romantics going full CUHRAZY and shocking everyone with their CUHRAZY antics. Now that the antics have stopped and turned fully to melodrama and half assed politics (with a tinge of "lets all hate the central government because UN Spacy is just like the Japanese parliamentary system", the series has mostly sucked.

Having the knights curbstomp everything in five minutes and a writer softban on any of them dying doesn't help, either.
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>>146703775
53 years old and she still poses like a teenager.
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>>146702719
THIS FUCKING THIS, Slow pacing and shitty melodrama killed the show.
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>>146682389
>Bilrer wanted to exterminate all Vajra too.
Lol No or he wouldn't have warned Jeffrey about the nationalization and let him go pirate to save Frontier from itself. Warning the NUN of Leon and Macross Galaxy's plots.

What Bilrer wants is the unification of the Children of the Protoculture. Not through force like what Leon and Grace is thinking but through advancement of communications and transportation. That way it would be easier to find what happened to Minmay. Yeah he is a big fan.
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>>146705207

>What Bilrer wants is the unification of the Children of the Protoculture. Not through force like what Leon and Grace is thinking but through advancement of communications and transportation.

Apparently thats a hippie pipedream since Delta establishes that there are colonies and protoculture worlds at war with each other and with the UN government. This is only the beginning of star systems taking the path of galactic conquest, ensuring the eventual destruction of the Protoculture races (again).
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>>146705452
Good. Protoculture races don't deserve to live, they are retarded warmongers, just like their parents.
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Bumping the shit out of this crap
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>>146697503
>>146701883
Please stop compairing Delta with Frontier.
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>macross plus came out in 1995
>kawamori predicted the rise of Miku which was in 2007
>assuming he is right yet again the age of bio waifus will begin in 2028
GET HYPE
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I want Mirage to sing Delta's OP1 badly like how Gamlin did with Seventh Moon.
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Mikumo slaps whiny bitches into IDOLS OF DESTINY
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>>146707930
It's okay to let the thread die anon.
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i'm reading macross 7 trash and it's practically air gear
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I had a dream where I could bang any Walkure and I chose Reina.
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>>146711148
Bogue pls.
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>>146711941
I didn't dislike it though.
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Will Macross get an artbook or atleast something about character development?
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>>146678926
Old and bust, it's time for the crack ship.
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>>146715634
Freyja control your rune boner.
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>>146710908
Macross 7 trahs begun and finished before Air gear began.
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>>146714693
There is an artbook which will come out this year.
Episode 23 will air in 2 hours.
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Should I watch Macross by air date or chronologically?
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>>146697189

>Now you've done it

That was a cool moment.

But I fully agree. I am not one of those that calls the new episodes the worst shit ever - they do have their good moments. But in the end, the first 13 episodes were indeed superior. They felt like a different anime altogether! As >>146699050 has said, they really put more effort into those first episodes. From graphics to pacing to overall writing everything was better. Really strange, you had more character development on top of having battles every second episode.
Oh well, doesn't help if we lament too much about this. Let's hope the finale will be REALLY great. Then I will forget all of Delta's sins.
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>>146705207
>Lol No or he wouldn't have warned Jeffrey
Bilrer did that because he knew Leon would betray him just like he betrayed president. He never had intention to save Vajra because he still needed them dead for fold quartz and research.
Vajra escaping to another galaxy is the reason why his dreams didn't come true after Frontier.
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>>146716804
Air date. Which is mostly chronological.
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>>146716865
> finale will be REALLY great
With these writers and director?
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Mirage, please be even more relevant
Mirage, please be even more relevant
Mirage, please be even more relevant
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>>146697189
Should have stuck to the 1 cour then movie idea. Second cour had some good moments but it isn't enough.
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>>146709988
The retarded part is Freyja was absolutely correct to hesitate since her singing made Hayate go nuts minutes after this.
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>>146718490
Slow pacing and drama shit made it boring.
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>>146718388
It's too late, episode 22 is probably the most we're going to get. After all, if episode 13 is any example the vast majority of the finale will just be Freyja and Hayate being useless until Freyja makes him not useless. If we're lucky we'll at least get Elysion doing something cool but it's not even at Windermere.
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>>146718564
I wonder how will they resolved this problem, if the problem already got resolved because Hayate got his harem then it's a shitty writing.
>>146718588
>Elysion
More Elysion please, I need more best girl.
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>>146718644
> I wonder how will they resolved this problem
Spess magic. It's always spess magic.
> More Elysion please, I need more best girl.
We need MC to get his father's VF-22 and fuck windies right up in the ass with it, to make Delta a bit less boring.
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>>146718644
>I need more best girl.

Your taste is impeccable.
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My sides
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4 episodes left
Fans everywhere running out of patience
Will Delta strike back?
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>>146718683
Nah, we just need shitposters like you to fuck of from these threads.
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>>146718719
> Will Delta strike back?
No. Wait for movies, if there will ever be one.
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>>146718683
>>146718588
i want hayate to trash messer's plane during battle, somehow find his dad's vf22 and kick ass while being guided by the ghost of his dad
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>>146718766
> ghost of his dad
No. Zeta was enough. But VF-22 fucking windie shit up would be great.
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>>146718709
After read the novel I can't see Hayate as a white knight anymore, he's a creepy father complex & MUH UNMEI faggot.
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>>146718766
I'd rather see some proper Immelmann dance fuckery but I honestly think the writers have completely forgotten about it at this point.

And even more unlikely I'd like to see Hayate actually achieve something on his own without a buff before the end of the goddamned series.
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>>146718884
He will be buffed because he has to fight Keith, the second or third or whatever coming of Jesus Yamato.
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Mirage will be killed in this episode, and Freyja will take the blame.
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>>146718927
It's ok, Xaos has their own messiah.
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>>146718884
Delta is about resonate so we gonna get a song buffed until the end. Have to go back to Macross plus and watch Isamu dodge the itano circus like a boss.
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>>146718884
>Immelmann dance
It's literally just dancing and it has very little usage in actual combat.
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>>146718791
>>146718884
him dancing in the vf22 would be great
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>>146718955
No, she gonna have knife fight.
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>>146718981
Guld was also a boss at dodging Itano circus.
>>146718978
LONG LIVE WINDERMERE, NATION OF JESUSES.
>>146719013
Anything VF-22 would be great. Siegfrieds are pretty lame.
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>>146719026
>Siegfrieds are pretty lame.
FIGHT ME
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>>146719048
Fag. Kairos > Drakken > Siegfried. And only Arad has decent paintjob.
>>
30 minutes left
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>thread is dead
>ace combat and idolshit shitposters wake up
>last 30 posts is literally their wanking with each other
What did we do to deserve this?
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>>146718709
God damn she's fucking clumsy.
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>>146719107
Delta was mediocre at best, and 2nd cour is absolute trash. Everyone lost their interest. What did you expect?
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>>146718978
Needs
>life expectancy 1/10
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>>146719152
Windies is going to be magically cured through the power of UNDERSTANDING. It's Macross.
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>ep 1 establishes Hayate has top skills with battroid form even before any kind of military training
>never comes up again
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>>146719145
>everyone
Speak for yourself, retard.
There is nothing strange that thread is not active on 7th day after episode aired. But I don't think anyone wants your retarded shitposting in these threads anyway.
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>>146719202
Using battroid during atmospheric combat is pretty retarded idea. You have no AMBAC benefits and it makes you an easy target.
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>>146719236

all aces in macross use battroid in flight.
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>>146719273
Barely. It's mostly GERWALK for some quick maneuvers.
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>>146719305

i'm not going to waste my time to go through every major macross fight to prove you wrong, but almost every encounter between aces has them going to battroid to deal with itano circus bullshit. you're just wrong.
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>>146719326
In air? In space, yes, that is how it's supposed to be done. Delta is mostly aerial fights.
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>>146719346

you made me go to youtube, but less than 30 seconds into max v. milia and max is in battroid mode in atmosphere fighting milia.
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>>146719236
Writers could just create situations where they fight on the ground again.
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>>146719326
Yes, it's basically the only reason they ever switch to battroid mode - to shoot down missiles. It takes like 3-4 seconds and then they switch back.
In Delta they don't use missiles too much so there is no need to use battroid.
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>>146719388
That's fine. Some rifle and hand-to-hand mecha action would be fun. But actually, it'll be buffed MC against buffed Keith in the air.
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>>146719394
> Yes, it's basically the only reason they ever switch to battroid mode - to shoot down missiles.
GERWALK is also usable for that.
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>>146719236
AMBAC doesn't actually make sense to begin with it's just a thin excuse Gundam uses for humanoid combat machines, which make no sense under any circumstances.
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>>146719456
Any mecha makes no sense. Ever. /k/ pls.
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>>146719394

again, max v. milia, max is in battroid in a gunfight against milia. milia uses missiles, and he switches to fighter to book it.

it's been established that battroid is useful in atmosphere. delta just doesn't want to bother with it.
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>>146719513
That was back then when there was no ISC and mecha-planes were not SO FUCKING FAST.
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neetball is up
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futakuro thread: http://board.futakuro.com/jk2/res/3155056.htm
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All I pray for is that Freyja is finally back to her normal self this episode. Please god. PLEASE
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>>146719811
HOINA
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>>146719811
Why? She should sing more. To turn MC into some kind of batshit insane berserker.
>>
ded thred, ded anime franchise
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MY BODY IS READY
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>>146719861
Go away.
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Get in here
>>
Get in here niggas
>>
IT BEGINS
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Heinz be safe.
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>>146719861
You rekt of /ffg/
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Cassim's death reported to Heika.
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>that weeabo ad
Every fucking time.
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They're wearing fake runes
>>
I don't think just using a fake rune counts as a disguise.
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>fake runes
DISGUSTING
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SEIKAN HIKOU!
>>
KIRA~!
>>
gtfo ranka
>>
CHIBI FREYA
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>Freyja sings Ranka's song
AHAHA
>>
KIRA!
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>>146720064
not to mention any windie can detect thats it's fake
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Literally Ranka 2.0
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KIRA!
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That jaw
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KIRA
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>>146720104
>FREYAFAGS BTFO!
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>>146720112
Not unless they go into physical contact with their rune.
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>mikumo never ate with anyone
>>
KUMOKUMO KYAWAWA
>>
MIKUMO BLUSHING
HNNNNNNNNG
>>
KUMO KUMO CUUUUUTE.
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>Kumo blush
HNNNGGG
>>
MakiReiKumo OTP
>>
KUMOKUMO Kyawawa!
>>
Holy shit, Mikumo is the cutest.
>>
MIKUMO A CUTE!
>>
SoL in Windermere?
>>
STOP RUINING MY SHINPI
>>
That was a pretty cute scene, but I don't know if doing it in the middle of enemy territory was a good idea.
>>
please don't let this be a mikumo death flag
>>
KUYASHI
>>
plz stahp ruining my Shinpi Kawamori
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haytae no koto
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Like Hayate looks really good with runes...
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>knights in charge of hitting slowly moving transport
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Nod, pls
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>>146720277
i'll take anything as long as she won't die
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Mikumo kicks ass, damn
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>>146720300
They were just herding them toward the flying squirrel people.
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Those bikes can transform
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>>146720308
KANE LIVES IN DEATH.
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>mirage and freyja didn't confess to each other
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Roid is such a creepy stalker, holy shit.
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>>146720334
ONE VISION
ONE PURPOSE
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>roid roofies his waifu

I don't think I like this.
>>
rip kumokumo, death in the hands of stalker
>>
Roid's gonna rape Mikumo so hard
>>
NOOOOO PLEASE NOT THE MIKUMO AS THE LAST BOSS ROUTE!
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>>146720360
FOT THE BROTHERHOOD. Why did you have to remind me of that.
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Time to Roid's rape prison.
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LOCAL IDOL NOT SO TOUGH AFTER BEING KIDNAPPED BY IDOLFAG
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That wasn't Megumi Nakajima's voice during the ad was it?
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>>146720403
It was
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>>146720378
oh come on this has been obvious since the beginning
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rape prison we go
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BOGUE A SHIT
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Hayate deathflags?
>>
Bogue has gotten a few smacks from the QUALITY wand this episode.

An acceptable sacrifice for perfectly animated Mikumoe.
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>>146720462
Hayate going full Demon Lord?
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>>146720462
At most he can disappear going to the center of the galaxy.
>>
STANDING ON THE EDGE OF THE CRATER
>>
anyone else spot the bluehaired earthling during Freyja's flashback? Would be hard not to.
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>>146720429

>Kat...ta..! Keikaku doori..
>>
MUH FAMILY
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>>146720525

Like the prophets once said
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>>146720585
That was actually small warhead. Why the fuck windies are so buttblasted about it?
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Bogue already beating his future wife.
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>>146720609
MUH PLANET
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>>146720609
>muh casualties
>muh tainted wind
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BOGUEBOYZ
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>Talk no jutsu ending
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>>146720617
so much for the "Ill never lose control!"
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>>146720631
>>146720634
I wonder how buttblasted windies would be if the warhead was the size of one used on Gallia 5.
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That was it?
>>
That felt too short.
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YES VF-22 COME HERE. And the episode was mediocre. What the fuck are they even doing. It's war you fucking crybabies.
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>>146720685
Disappointing episode, they just talked and plot doesnt go further much.
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>>146720685
>pros
mikumoe

>cons
she's also the final boss
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well that was shit
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>>146720716
We got Mikumoe at least
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How many eps left?
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Keith is into bondage?
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rape cave tastefully decorated with glasses
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CONFIRMED RAPED
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Fuck i missed it /a/nons pls summarize the episode.
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Hoshi no utaite... Starsinger?
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>>146720751
3 episodes.
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3 episodes left
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>>146720759
D-did Roid undressed and tie Mikumo himself?!
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>>146720759
SHE'S ONLY THREE
ROID YOU SICK FUCK
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>>146720763
Which one's the rape glasses?
>>
>>146720774
mikumoe
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>>146720776
What the fuck is wrong with production. It's literally episode of useless exposition. AGAIN. At least they showed us the final plane.
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>>146720736
Yeah but if this pace keeps on it will be the worst macross to date. How many plot threads are left out there that wont even get touched upon? We are going for Mikumo final boss as star singer route.
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>>146720795
All of them.
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>>146720759
Jesus Christ, Roid.
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>>146720774
Delta divided and partly captured. Many nice individual scenes. Plus Loli Freyja doing a Ranka.
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How many babies?
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>>146720759
WTF I HATE ROID NOW
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>>146720774
Freyja, Hayate, Mirage and Mikumo get captured. Knights show the first three the hole in Carlisle and it turns out part of Bogue's family died in the explosion, they also show them the VF-22 and they know Hayate's dad dropped the bomb. On the other hand Roid calls Mikumo the star singer.
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>>146720759
>bondage
>rape
>toddlercon
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>>146720805
We still have NUNS guys, Arad being a shady fuck, Lady M being a shady fuck, NUNS central goverment doing anything relevant. BRAVO KAWAMORI.
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>>146720804
>It's literally episode of useless exposition. AGAIN
No. They talked about the explosion, showed the flashback from episode 01 about chibi freyja and talked about Hayate's father.
Mikumo as the final boss was fukin obvious though
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>>146720759
Dreams do come true if your try hard enough, /a/~!
>>
So when chibi Freyja was singing, they focused on one guy with blue hair smiling at her. I guess she really did know Immeldad.
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>>146720856
> No. They talked about the explosion, showed the flashback from episode 01 about chibi freyja and talked about Hayate's father.
That's the meaning of useless exposition. We have already seen windies being crybabies and Freyja flashback. The only plot relevant things were VF-22 and Mikumo.
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>>146720833
One for every pair of glasses.
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>>146720889
This time, the main characters are directly confronted to this.
>>
Windies trying to execute HayaHaya net episode?
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>>146720833
>>146720759

Well dammit all. Knowing Roid he won't rape or hurt her in any way, but actually mindcontrol her or something similar. Shit, I can see it before my eyes. Have only two deaths throughout the whole series and then pull the kill switch on the best character in the last episode. Mikumoe just went final boss route. FUCK.
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>>146720754
>glasses
x-ray glasses
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>>146720889
>MUST HAVE MORE EXPLOSIONS RAAAAAAAGH GLORY TO OUR GOD MICHAEL BAY
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>>146720915
And? Besides VF-22 being the final plane and Mikumo being raped nothing happened.
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>>146720759
Why the fuck that pervert tie her up like that?
>>
Hayate going full VAR when?
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>>146720959
Oh you know why. :3
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>>146720864
I wonder who's behind this post. Roid you sick bastard
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>>146720944
Contain your autism.
>>146720970
Never. Raging berserkers are the best. SKULLS TO KHORNE.
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>>146720795
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I can't believe people still think they're gonna kill a main idol.
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>>146720958
I was expecting Arad to find something in his way in the abandoned NUNS base but it turned out nothing.
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>>146720937
They wouldn't kill the money making singers r-right?
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>>146720958
>And?
It's not the same thing.
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>>146720970
on the final battle with mikumo
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>>146720889
I wouldn't call it exposition. More like characters from different factions confronting each other face to face. Macross is about understanding ultimately, so this was needed since the main trio hadn't seen the hole, nor the plane nor met someone who had lost part of his family in the explosion.
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>>146720994
>Ace combat shitposter talks about autism
Ahahaha
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>>146720997

>elrond cosplay
>walküre "research"
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>>146721013
please tell me mikumo is famous in niplang
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>>146721020
It IS exposition. A boring one, we already knew that windies are crybabies and MC's father is THE BOMBERMAN. And that shitty Bogue dialogue, goddamit.
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>>146720997
hue
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>>146719013
>him dancing in the vf22 would be great
The Immelmann dance was only used at the beginning, it's time to see it again.
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>>146721081
What do you want then? More freyja-hayate-mirage time?
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>>146721065
They already have concerts planned for months. They can't kill Mikumo. It's probably something similar to Frontier TV with Ranka brainwashed to sing for enemy.
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>>146721081
Like he said they actually confronted each other about it. They met face to face. That is interesting enough.
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>>146720997
I will never get why he has so many of them anyway, he's like on of those woman that's obsessed with shoes.
>>
>>146721081
You're boring exposition
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>>146721128
so he's going to start breakdancing while dodging mikumo's song beams?
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>>146721129
No. Something something plot moving faster NUNS doing SOMETHING. Just let NUNS bring a fucking armada or whatever.
>>146721150
That Bogue dialogue was fucking annoying. From irrelevant shitter to worst fucking character in Delta. Nice fucking writing.
>>
so DYRL(Mikumo ver.) confirmed?
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>>146721176
Omg, yes this needs to happen.
>>
>>146721129
I demand more battles and air jousting! This whole war has been building since the first cour and now the pacing has died down. Declaring war against muh whole galaxy is a joke. They could've made this episode way much earlier now I can just imagine that the ending for Delta will be an asspull
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>>146721081
Man it would have been interesting if this was the first time Hayate found out that his dad was the bomberman and he had an actual emotional reaction about it in front of Bogue.

Episodes 14 through 19 were a mistake.
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>>146721183
Bougue is a waste of character
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So Freyja and Mirage both confessed their love for Hayate? This means Freyja was actually not aware of Mirage's feelings either. Can Hayate really be blamed for not noticing?
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>>146720871
Here context from the novel
>In her hand, she clasped an old looking music player as though it were a good
luck charm. It was a type whose only real virtues were being sturdy and inexpensive, not good for much besides accessing the network, but used a lot by soldiers in remote regions and frontiersmen.
The mp3 player should be Immeldads.
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>>146721183
>NUNfags
I understand now why you don't like this episode.
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>>146721243
He is too dense to even realize
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>>146721243
I don't think anyone blamed Hayate for that.
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>>146721222
somebody did say that the second cour was supposed to be a movie
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>>146721230
Shota Bogue is good though.
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>>146721290
Yeah, Kawamori.
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>>146721013

I would like to think so, but I'm afraid that Kawamori and his men have still a bomb up their sleeves and they will drop it soon. Killing off Kumo would unleash a tidal wave of butthurt and agony, they would do something previously unseen. Yes..chaos and oblivion is upon us. Prepare yourselves.

inb4 Kumo dies and in the last scene we see a new clone of her standing before Lady M
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>>146721183
Bogue is supposed to represent a Windermerean who was affected directly by the bomb Immeldad dropped, just like Cassim was your average peasant who lost everything in the war. Except one is an angry immature teenager and the other is a gentleman, but whatever.
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>>146721222
>>146721230
He literally BITCHED for entier fucking anime to BITCH EVEN MORE. Holy fuck that's some quality writing.
>>146721290
That 'someone' would be series director.
>>
This wasn't a bad episode, but this is something they should have and could have done much earlier.
>>
>>146721222
>Episodes 14 through 19 were a mistake.
Episode 16 was a mistake.
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>>146721275
In a way, he looks like Kawamori.

>his face when he sees his future daughteru
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>>146721340
>elite force of handpicked warroirs
>angry immature teenager
I laughed.
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>>146721382
>16
No.
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>>146721290
It not like because (put any reason here) so we can forgive them.
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>>146721401
>14
No.
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>>146721183
You complain about shit writing and want Delta to end in mindless battle in the same fucking post. You should stick to shounen battle anime.
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Kawaii-chan
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>>146721419
I'm not the anon you replied to though. I think he meant episode 17 but fuck that I liked that episode too.
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>>146721340
I love angry immature teenage pilots. It's the most realistic response to your family getting blown to smithereens.

Sorry for my shit taste.
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>>146720759
BABY FUCK
BABY FUCK
IT'S AWWRIGHT
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>>146721445
what happened to Wright's body?
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>>146721401
>>146721222
>episode 14
>Mirage x Hayate episode
>a mistake, A MISTAKE

>16
>1Frejya x Hayate episode
>not a mistake, NOT A MISTAKE

I see what you did there Freyjafag.
>>
>>146721421
> Delta to end in mindless battle
That's how the wars usually end.
>>
>>146721275
That's a very cute scene, my heart goes full HNG when I saw Freyja sing and him smiling.
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>>146721470
It shows evidence of VAR.
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>>146721222
Yeah, I think it'd have been more impactful if he had found about his father there. Also, they showed Hayate the hole and the plane because he said he didn't believe his dad had done it, I think.
>>
>>146721501
Meaning Wright indeed was Var-ed during his mission?
>>
Anyway, now that we know Immeldad's VF is still intact, Hayate can fulfill his daddy complex sex with Freyja just like Alto did with his mother complex sex with Sheryl in his mom's yukata.
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>>146721470
They found his dead body in it.
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>>146721275
It's his face when he sees Rankafag.
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>>146721472
>>146721401 here, how is episode 14 a hayate x mirage episode?
Also I'm not >>146721472 so stop embarassing yourself.
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>>146721546
I love this father complex meme so much.
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>>146721556
How can a pilot in a Special OPs plane die when landing a bomb? How is that even possible?
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>>146721546
freyja dressed in a similar outfit to pic related but in a vf22 theme when
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>>146721324
>I would like to think so, but I'm afraid that Kawamori and his men have still a bomb up their sleeves and they will drop it soon.
I still think there is a non-zero chance that the entire Winderemere planet would be rendered uninhabitable if not blown in half, by the end of the war. This is the only path I can think of that would make everyone else feel sorry for Windermere, as to spare the survivors any more punishment. Trying to activate ancient Protoculture weapons can have really unpredictable results. Mikumo reminds me of that ultimate weapon in Doctor Who, the weapon that judges the user and decides the fate of both sides of the war.
>>
>>146721456
Me too. I understand why many people don't like Bogue but, come one, his actions and his behavior are understandable and make sense.
>>
>>146721622
There's Sheryl-being-VF-22.
>>146721618
It's Delta, turn off your logic.
>>
>>146721492
That's not how fictional story should end.
>>
>>146721656
> understandable and make sense.
> elite group of handpicked pilots
> a literal bitchboy crying every fucking time he's on screen
Anon pls.
>>146721680
Most decent fictional stories about the war end in some bigass massacre. That's how wars actually work. Even original SDF ended with 99% of humanity dead.
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>>146721629
2 more episodes left assuming next episode will be another exposition+rescue episode. What will the final battle be as we are down to 2 episodes left? We haven't even seen any movements coming from the Major Valak and his shady NUNS CIA superiors.
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Kaname and her silly hats.
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>>146720617
So the resonate problem didn't get resolved with that shitty muh wings scene, thanks.
>>
>>146721618
Next time wait for subs before asking retarded questions.
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>>146721750
We haven't seen NUNS doing anything. Bigass goverment that polices entire fucking galaxy doing nothing is a little bit strange.
>>146721786
There's still hope for MC turning into servant of Khorne. I'd watch the shit out of MC murdering windies right and left.
>>
>>146721760
I'm surprised she's not wearing a silly vest, too.
>>
>>146721760
Kaname has the best fashion sense.
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>>146721750
>2 more episodes left assuming next episode will be another exposition+rescue episode. What will the final battle be as we are down to 2 episodes left? We haven't even seen any movements coming from the Major Valak and his shady NUNS CIA superiors.
Mikumo reminds me way too much of the main girl in The Fifth Element.

I don't really see how the NUNs would have anything to do with Windermere's story at this point. Really they are barely associated with each other and that's why I suspect it would end with the doomsday machine being pulled, only for Windermere to have it backfire on them.
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Best dad already looking for a waifu for his son.
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>>146721831
>We haven't seen NUNS doing anything. Bigass goverment that polices entire fucking galaxy doing nothing is a little bit strange.
I truly believe they haven't done anything because if they did, Windereme woud have been defeated in two episodes. Everything will be solved by the Chaos team and Winderemere itself. NUNs used to matter but it is ancient history, clearly at this point NUNs hadn't been involved for some time.
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>>146721599
They were together for 3/4 of the episode.
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I rewatched the first episode recently. It's disappointing how much promise Delta had at the start and how low it's fallen with the 2nd cour.
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>>146721857
The point is, well, windies declared war on entire fucking galaxy. Live, during coronation of their new KANG.
>>146721922
Poor NUNS guys, being cannon fodder is pretty boring.
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>>146721831

>Bigass goverment that polices entire fucking galaxy doing nothing is a little bit strange.

This is the strange thing. I can't believe that they simply will remain irrelevant and let a mini-war between a planet and a mercenary group resolve itself. I, too, suspect that they will do some nasty last-minute ruin. Perhaps as Delta defeats Windermere/ Roid and departs the planet, NUNS comes in and nukes them to ashes?
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>>146721857
The NUNS would have made the perfect filler to shut people up. It baffles me that they wouldn't bother to use it. It's almost like they didn't have the budget to do action scenes anymore so they wrote the scripts to accommodate.
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>>146721949
This logic is confusing.
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>>146722002
> NUNS comes in and nukes them to ashes?
Not when Kawamori drives this train.
>>146722017
They also had windie war as a literal a-tier flashback material.
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>>146722043
Mirage's love for Hayate grew during that episode.
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>>146721982
>The point is, well, windies declared war on entire fucking galaxy. Live, during coronation of their new KANG.
Yes, but Chaos are the main characters. If NUNs show up with an armada it would literally render the crew irrelevant.

You can argue that NUNs is busy elsewhere and they were waiting for Chaos to be entirely defeated before they get involved. Chaos had the job of defending this sector and NUNs probably see no point showing up yet.
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>>146721857
>I don't really see how the NUNs would have anything to do with Windermere's story at this point.
Then why the shady scene of having Major Valak discussing something mysterious with his superiors? I bet they have a plan under their sleeves, its just a matter on how the plan is triggered. It is clear that they were not shaken by Windie's presence at all judging by how calm the discussion is.
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>>146721760
>KAname is a slav
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>>146721537
Just guessing. It's not established yet.

>>146721760
Kaname and Mirage has teardrop-shaped fake rune. Mikumo has heart-shaped rune like Freyja's.

Pottery.
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>>146721733
>Most decent fictional stories about the war end in some bigass massacre.
It ends in big battle, not necessary massacre. Plus, 7, and Zero and Frontier didn't have any kind of "massacre" at all. Also you need to read some actual sci-fi, for example Stanislaw Lem, he was master of anti-climatic endings.
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Hayate better take his dad's old VF-"one plane genocide"-22 and rescue Kumo from Roid's rape cave before she turns into the final boss next episode, he was supposed to protect the youngest walkure after all.
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>>146721905
Based Immeldad, I wish we get more loli Freyja.
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>>146722083
>If NUNs show up with an armada it would literally render the crew irrelevant.
And thank god it that would have happened. Delta characters are so fucking bland and shallow. Like, WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING WHILE WRITING THAT BOGUE DIALOGUE?
>>146722119
Lem was more into psychology side of things. Macross is a little bit different. Heinlein is not a sci-fi writer anymore?
>>146722103
Nyet, my friend. She's a finn.
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>>146722086
I'm pretty sure they are going to show again soon and I doubt it will be for the greater good. For now they are enemies, but I wouldn't be surprised if NUNS attacks Windermere and Xaos decides to help protect the planet. Of course there's still the Roid issue and his plans, but as we have seen, Keith is wary of him.
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>>146722017

Although I belong to the minority that likes the 2nd cour, I have to agree. Objectively speaking the fillers were not chosen well, the first thing that comes to mind is the Frejya birthday EP. I mean this entire thing with them looking for presents and chatting in the restaurant was like 15 minutes long. They could have shortened that to 5 minutes and make a parallel story about NUNS making their moves etc. It IS possible to satisfy both the idol and military angle as the first cour has shown. See this is the thing: all those scenes are not bad on their own - in fact they are good! But the overall puzzle could have been better laid out.
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>>146722071
>Her forced to strip to help with the repairs is a proof of her growing love
I thought it was just Mirage being her usual innocent maiden.
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>>146722210
I agree with you. I like the 2nd cour but I wish it has been better paced overall. The content is good, I enjoy the character development and the interactions, like the ones in ep 21 and this one.
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>>146722207
>but I wouldn't be surprised if NUNS attacks Windermere and Xaos decides to help protect the planet. Of course there's still the Roid issue and his plans, but as we have seen, Keith is wary of him.

I'm now questioning Kawamori's ability to resolve all this plot points in a neat fashion rather than asspull since we are down to only 3 episodes left.
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>>146722306
Why? He's my hero!
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>>146722305
I already said Delta is SEED of Macross. Now it's wandering into SEED Destiny territory. God forbid.
>>146722351
Belka pls.
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>>146722306
Roid you sick fucker, she's only 3.
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>>146722366
She's a clone. 99% of humanity has clone ancestors. These clones fucked each other when they were 1.
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>>146722306
This scene was hot.
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Anyone can explain me Delta's plot. I'm lost.
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>>146722306
>Someone please kill this guy.
He is going to end up like Gendo Ikari. There is no worry that he would survive, he betrayed his own king and basically can go nowhere but down.
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If Roid uses Mikumo to sing, will we see Lady M using another or few Mikumo-clone to counter Roid's plans?
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>>146722454
Good old fashioned WMDs still work.
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>>146722454
An army of Mikumos...
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>>146722420
I will ship them if they have a knife fight.
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>>146722193
>comparing pro-military Heinlein with hippie Kawamori
Kek.
And even then Heinlein is not massacre-ending kind of guy (unless it's fight against mindless monstetrs/bugs).

I seriously can't remember a single decent sci-fi with massacre ending I recently finished Haldeman's Forever War and despite being one of the grim and agritty sci-fi war stroy it ends with UNDERSTANDING.
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>>146722501
But is it gonna be knife_fight.webm?
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All I asked for was that Freyja would go back to her normal smiling self and I got tears instead.
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>>146722552
Kawamori is not just hippie, he's a fucking shitter. Put him in the cage and let design mechs.
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>>146722193
Is there a difference in the fur hats of Finns and Slavs then? I've always thought those boxy fur hats = Russia
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>>146722574
>His dad fucked my planet.
;_;
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>>146722210
They had NUNS appear in episode 15 and lots of people complained about it.
You can't satisfy "muh gritty war drama" shitposters.
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So we will never gonna see full scale galactic war in Delta like we used in the past ever again. It all comes down to muh understanding.
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>>146722298

Yeah, it really is a strange dilemma. They could have either changed the structure of the episodes or just make the entire series longer. If there were three cours or so, would anyone complain about slow episodes? Surely not since they were quite good honestly. Actually, why do they stop at 26 episodes?

>>146722306

I hope they don't do a "literally Hitler" with him. He obviously is the classical "ends justify the means" guy and actually has good intentions.
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>>146722429
Everyone is lost.
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>>146722552
It's less about good old masscre and more about war having actual effects. Windies are doing war for shits and giggles i guess.
>>146722625
Boxy fur hats are meme-tier actually. They are and always were. Only nobles pre-Peter wore them on daily basis.
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>>146722569
If they get a QUALITY in knife fight scene I will ship them even harder.
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>>146721905
Maybe this is right after he gave her the mp3 player!
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>>146722673
I think they would complain. Some people don't want slow episodes like this one and would prefer more battles, which is okay, I guess. To each their own.
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>>146721546
Now to just get Freyja to put on the pilot suit before they get started.
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>>146722806
Yes, everyone would complain. 7 already had horrific pacing issues. You don't do that twice.
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>>146722692
You literally said that war should end with big massacre battle, now it's about effects. Shitposting for the sake of shitposting.
Name me a single sci-fi story where war ends with one intelligent race wiping other intelligent race.
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>KISAMA
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>>146722863
No one said anything about full-blown genocide. Just good old killing, a lot of it.
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>>146722863
Gundamu
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>>146722670
>we will never gonna see full scale galactic war in Delta like we used in the past
What are you talking about? Not a single Macross had full scale galactic war.
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>>146721618
it means someone just put a corpse there
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>>146721905
>Immeldad smiling
>he knows deep down that this little loli is gonna listen to all those songs
>he slipped Idol Talk in there
>the loli will never understand the English lyrics clipped from a porno
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Pretty coincidence that Macross Delta and Kuromukuro both going end in winter weather with snow.
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>>146722908
No one fully genocided anyone in Gundam. Zeeks were asses though.
>>146722928
And this time, Windermere officially declared it on the whole galaxy.
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>>146722863

Ender's Game
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>>146722928
sdf, frontier.
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>>146722806
It's not that we prefer battles. They have been building all this tension right from the beginning and then it just dissipates like that. A lot of things were introduced and they did not even care to follow up e.g. Major Valak's appearance and the NUNS. We already know he had something under his sleeves. Do you think he collects the data of the protoculture ruins at Ragna on purpose? Heck setting off the reactive bomb placed at the Ragna's Protoculute ruins is also part of the plan which he had already anticipated.
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>>146722968
It was an accident.
>>146722969
Neither were galactic. Now we have an actual GALACTIC WAR. Where absolutely nothing happens.
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>>146722830
The main problem with 7 was its repetitiveness. There is limit to how much you can endure monster of the week formula with Planet Dance solving everything in the end.

Also don't forget that these threads has most vocal shitposters ever. Last time one of them was banned it removed 50 posts from 450 post thread as well as ALL complains about "shit writing" and "idolshit".
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>>146722969
sdf only happened in one system, that's not a galactic war at all
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>>146723014
I actually agree with you on that. I wish Valak had appeared some more because I doubt NUNS has good intentions and they are clearly going to play a part in the final episodes. This way it's going to come out of nowhere.
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>>146722306

But he puts the KumoKumo in the rape rope so it's alllll good.
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>>146723045

Well it was an accident for Ender himself, but the admirals behind him clearly did all that on purpose, meaning that also the government behind those admirals did that on purpose.
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So many talks, too little fight....
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I'm so happy that HayaFre will come true!
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>>146723014
Not just CIA guys crushing this VF, NUN goverment is doing absolutely nothing. Do they ever exist? Why the fuck windies are even angry then?
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Who literally thought it was a good idea to rewrite a movie into Second cour after 4 episodes done?
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>>146721905

That's the smile of a man who's about to commit genocide and by proxy cockblock his son in the future. I bet he's a Miragefag too.
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>>146722950
>Windermere officially declared it on the whole galaxy.
Yet they didn't attack anyone outside of their cluster yet. It's galactic war only in Windermerian minds.
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>>146723167
Anyway, bugs survived.
>>146723209
Bamco. Probably bamco.
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>>146723209
Probably the producers.
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>>146723187
Keep being delusional.
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>>146723229
It's also a war for everyone in NUN goverment. And they are doing nothing. Why the fuck windies are so buttblasted then?
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>>146723240
It's gonna happen tho
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>>146722944
<<here comes the snow>>
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>>146723288
Who cares anyway? Shipping cardboard cutouts is the most boring thing ever.
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>>146723234
>Probably the producers.

Kawamori seems to always have problems dealing with producers
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>>146723221
It's just his unmei keikaku desu senpai, still don't know why the fuck he bombed windy planet.
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>>146723275
>It's also a war for everyone in NUN goverment. And they are doing nothing. Why the fuck windies are so buttblasted then?
Because the entire war is just a war over pride. Windremere felt insignificant and wanted to conquer other planets to feel better about themselves.
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>>146723288
This episoder proved to Freyja and Mirage that they both like him.
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>>146723364
And they are supposed to PAY for that, PAY for their pride. Pay with their blood. Too bad NUNS are non-existant.
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>>146723331
>1366x768
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>>146723209
It's not after 4 episodes are done, it's after the writer wrote episode 4, way different.
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>>146723426
They were still lazy enough to not write anything for 2nd cour.
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>>146722942
That's a Sharon Apple song. Freyja doesn't know she exists and the songs were banned weren't they?
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>>146723322
A lot of people.
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>>146723464
Yes i agree, the writer should start doing something more when movie become 2nd cour, but seems he end up just being lazy.
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>>146723322
Only Mirage is a cardboard cutout tho
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>>146723364
>>146723393
You clearly have understood shit about the plot.
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>>146723473

I'd still like to think a guy who can drop nukes can slip an illegal song onto a loli's mp3 player.
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>>146723415
My program's kinda shitty just look at dat file size.
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I want to rape Mikumo so bad my balls are actually hurting.
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>>146723473
Yes. Hayadad was a spec ops guy, so who knows.
>>146723516
They could have made a windies civil war flashback, show NUN doing something.
>>146723538
Self-insert MC and a flawless idol are cardboard cutouts too.
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>>146723594
We can play pretend...
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>>146723393
>And they are supposed to PAY for that, PAY for their pride. Pay with their blood. Too bad NUNS are non-existant.
They will pay. But all signs points to one of their own causing their own destruction. NUNs showing up would be too easy, and Chaos is not capable to doing the deed. So the most obvious candidate would be Lloyd "activating" Mikumo, only to have her turn on him and his people in a catastrophic way.
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>>146723638
So Birdman 2.0?
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>>146723701
>So Birdman 2.0?
EXACTLY.
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>>146723598
>self insert
>flawless

No that's incorrect.
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>>146723715
Boring. Why not to show NUNS being absolutely fucking competent ONCE.
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>>146723736
That's absolutely correct.
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>>146723744
>Boring. Why not to show NUNS being absolutely fucking competent ONCE.
In this case NUNs isn't incompetent. In this case NUNs is overpowered. They are not here because they have better things to do. This is just a minor war as it stands and NUNs isn't going to bother unless Windermere truly try to leave their cluster.
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What a fucking Freyjafag
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>>146723598
>They could have made a windies civil war flashback, show NUN doing something.
And it would be as pointless for the plot as Walkure flashback. I already recommended you to stick to battle shounen anime if all you want is stupid action.
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>>146723803
Hnnnng.
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>>146720759
Unfinished bondage job, what the fuck Roid?
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>>146723364

No. Many want revenge for the bomb, while only a few want no war at all (Cassim for instance). The top dogs use this desire to achieve an even bigger goal: to undo their short life-span through the power of protoculture.
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>>146723788
Freyja's character is not even that complex yet you're still too retarded to understand it.
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>>146723744
>Boring. Why not to show NUNS being absolutely fucking competent ONCE.
Because Chaos would be able to do cool things trying to minimise the apocalypse somehow, maybe actually singing back to Mikumo to stop her before she purged the entire planet of all life. This is really the only way for Chaos to matter in a finale.
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>>146723818
https://youtu.be/lRkBJY1mua0?t=59s (0:59)
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>>146723796
>This is just a minor war as it stands and NUNs isn't going to bother unless Windermere
NUNS have no active wars going on sans rebelling zents here and there. They are not doing anything because otherwise there will be no singing idols and MC magically turning into ace. There would be drones and blood. And war. Actual war.
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>>146723851
Seriously, you call that bondage? Fucking amateur
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Is Delta popular enough to get a lot of doujin? Anything you're hoping for/hoping this episode's going to influence?
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>>146723803
He also notice her hand grasping. Top kek
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>>146723818
Was that Freyja getting visions through her rune or something? Can all Windies do it? I always assumed that considering how they feel everything through their runes, the bomb would be extra shocking because they could somehow feel it through their somewhat fold network, like Ranka and Vajra did, especially so for familiars and people they are close with (heck, Bogue senses Freyja through his rune in this episode).
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FUCK OFF ROID. DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH MY KUMOKUMO YOU PIECE OF SHIT.
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>>146723873
Windie declaration of war against the whole galaxy is like taking on the whole NUNS. NUNS doing nothing at all baffles me.
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>>146723867
>No. Many want revenge for the bomb, while only a few want no war at all (Cassim for instance). The top dogs use this desire to achieve an even bigger goal: to undo their short life-span through the power of protoculture.
That would have nothing to do with galactic conquest. If they want to live longer there was no reason to start a war over it. If they want to research ruins on other planets then they just had to politely ask. No, it is all about pride, just like with real life. This is the most realistic reason to go to war that Macross ever used.
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>>146721279
It's not like Mirage made her feelings obvious. She's incredibly insecure. It was cute at first but now it's actually gotten annoying.
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>>146723818

wew lad, that's quite explicit.
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>>146723961
And yet their supposed opponents are barely doing anything despite outnumbering them and having better tech.
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>>146723959
>Windie declaration of war against the whole galaxy is like taking on the whole NUNS. NUNS doing nothing at all baffles me.
It's because Windermere doesn't have the capacity to follow through. By your argument we should have organised a giant combined army of world powers and crushed ISIS by now. We don't because it would be overkill.
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>>146723939
All shows get tons of doujins. That's never the problem. The problem is if the doujins are bought and scanned by anyone.
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>Freyja is crying after seeing the 次元兵器 crater
>Hayate: SING FREYJA
Holy shit Immelman can go fuck themselves, a family of war criminals and insensible fucks
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>>146723923
They didn't interfere when Windies declared war in Brisingir cluster. There is no point in interfering now.

Also as shows in episode 15 they are still not fully prepared for the fight. As any sane military organization they should care not only about wining but about minimizing loses. This is the same reason why NATO didn't start ground operation against ISIS yet. It's basic common sense, something you completely lack.
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>>146723961
> If they want to live longer there was no reason to start a war over it
That's just an assumption, and one that applies to Roid mostly.

>If they want to research ruins on other planets then they just had to politely ask.
NUNS embargo'ed them and told everyone they dropped the bomb. They don't trust them at all nor want anything to do with them.
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>>146724057
Idk, I took that more as Hayate encouraging Freyja to sing out her feelings.
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>>146724008
>And yet their supposed opponents are barely doing anything despite outnumbering them and having better tech.
Because you don't bother with chattering of insignificant minor battles in the middle of nowhere. NUNs would bother when Winderemere showed themselves to be a true threat, which they are not. Chaos had been losing only because they are under-equipped, not because Winderemere was truly that strong.
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>>146723961

You cannot seperate war from them activating the ruins. To activate them, the wind singer has to sing and this fucks up people across the galaxy to the point of them dying. It's literally fighting your way to the top or accepting death and do nothing.
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>>146720617
I don't this this shows any problem in their resonance, it just shows he's feeling what she's feeling, and she's sad. Like in Frontier movies when Alto put on one of Sheryl's earrings and instantly had feelings of pain and loneliness. Ooooh, another winner flag for Freyja!
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>>146723955
They talked about it. Freyja was in contact with Heinz way back in 10. Heinz who's a windsinger is more in tune with nature and so, so he percieved it differently or some such. And then Freyja saw it hrough Heinz. Pretty much confirms she's not a wind singer herself I would say
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>>146724057
>What the fuck Hayate.
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>>146724057
Most funny part is the knights actually listen to she sings til Bogue start reacting.
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>>146724097
>>146724085
All NUNS had to do was to send a bunch of drone carriers to supress poor windies. It's that simple.
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>>146724162
Hermann looks not right here.
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>>146724097
Different anon, but that does bring up the question of why NUNS doesn't support them more. It's not like they are short on cash or planes and I imagine it would be convenient for them if this war was already finished with.
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>>146724125
>You cannot seperate war from them activating the ruins. To activate them, the wind singer has to sing and this fucks up people across the galaxy to the point of them dying. It's literally fighting your way to the top or accepting death and do nothing.
They don't have an actual cure, they just somehow had a fantasy that they could live longer if they grab all the ruins based on nothing. They certainly haven't started living longer at this point, and very soon they are going to find out they have no idea what they were doing with the ruins. Fear the Bird Human.
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>>146724057
You mean him very kindly encouraging her to sing for dead? As if he knew that she wanted to?
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>>146724228
NUNS don't exist, anon. It's your imagination.
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>>146723959
>if they want to live longer there was no reason to start a war over it. If they want to research ruins on other planets then they just had to politely ask.
>Hey guys, can we please sing at your ruins fucking up the ecosystem of the whole planet and brainwashing everyone? We need it for our experiments.
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>>146724204
>All NUNS had to do was to send a bunch of drone carriers to supress poor windies. It's that simple.
>>146724228
>Different anon, but that does bring up the question of why NUNS doesn't support them more. It's not like they are short on cash or planes and I imagine it would be convenient for them if this war was already finished with.
You are assuming there aren't other, more pressing matters that NUNs is taking care of elsewhere. From their perspective the Winderemere conflict is contained and can wait. Don't assume that just because we are watching the Winderemere war that it is suddenly super-important. As Nick Fury would say, he has other emergencies to deal with.
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>>146724085
But progress has already been made on Valak's side concerning the data that he retrieved back at Ragna. If they have no intention of including the NUNS then why introduce that cliched shenanigan shit in the beginning? Besides that we are yet to know why Wright drop the damn bomb. It was clear that Frejya and Mirage both in this episode argued with the aerial knights that there must be reason behind this MDE bombing. Furthermore, we have yet to have a concrete explanation to why lady M decides to clone Mikumo and for what purpose.
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>>146724057
>In Frontier Leon asks Ranka to sing for the victimns of Vajra attack
>Ranka can''t sing
>Hayate asks Freeyja to sing in similar situation
>Freyja sings
Freyja >>> Ranka confirmed.
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>>146724355
>Besides that we are yet to know why Wright drop the damn bomb.
Couldn't it just have been to give Winderemere its independence? The one reason the Windermere leadership don't want to accept?
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>>146724348
> more pressing matters that NUNs is taking care of elsewhere.
There are none. Maybe some rebelling zents here and there. You only have little buttblasted spess belkans with fetish for weird supperweapons. You don't even have to try that hard to suppress them. Do your job as a police officer.
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Is it just me or does the show seem to be going nowhere despite there being only 3 episodes left? Where's muh battles, where's muh action, where's muh climax? This character development is nice and all but it should've happened a dozen episodes earlier.
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>>146724420
>There are none. Maybe some rebelling zents here and there. You only have little buttblasted spess belkans with fetish for weird supperweapons. You don't even have to try that hard to suppress them. Do your job as a police officer.
NUNs already have Chaos there. You don't send the National Guard for every minor thing.
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Was this the first time we saw the title of episode 24? I don't recall seeing it before

>絶命ジャジメント
>Annihilation Judgement
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>>146724483
> National Guard for every minor thing.
You don't need to send your best forces. Just a bunch of unmanned drone carriers. They are immune to mind control.
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>>146724261
What bothers me is Hayate's attitude towards this. He has zero compassion towards what Bogue tells, outright denies his father's implication in the bombing and pushes Freyja to sing in a nonchalant way.

Fuck. him.
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>>146724355
>But progress has already been made on Valak's side concerning the data that he retrieved back at Ragna.
I'm not even sure if they planned to nuke the ruins _only_ to get some data. It could be they indeed tried to prevent Windermerian plans by running the ruins. And if it failed they could always get some valuable research data.

Anyway, it's oblivious NUNS never planned to fight using direct brute force.
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>>146724400
Do you think a guy like Wright who seemed to care about Windermere would genocide its people for a 'greater cause'? You have seen how angry the Windies are. For them it was the last straw.
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>>146724348
But shouldn't that get mentioned in the show? Not just to settle questions like these, but to also better establish our setting as a minor conflict. It hasn't ruin the show for me thus far, but a a quick 2-3 lines of dialogue would have been nice.

I feel like Delta has this internal struggle. On one hand it wants us to take the conflict seriously, but also it doesn't. imho this offsets my enjoyment since I don't know if I should feel tense during battles or should just jam out to the music. Should I care about the small details of Delta like I'm interested in it or should I just accept what we get is a vehicle for fun songs intermixed with explosive visuals? Getting a lot of mixed signals overall
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>>146724585
> For them it was the last straw.
They are feudal society. They will do what they were told to do.
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>>146724557
He told her to sing for the dead. He knows her feelings because resonance.
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>>146724420
>There are none.
Source: your ass. It was already stated in anime that NUNS consider this war as small conflict between colonies.
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>>146724551
>You don't need to send your best forces. Just a bunch of unmanned drone carriers. They are immune to mind control.
They can, but why? The Winderemere district is a very far off area of space that wasn't that important. Chaos still exists and holding. If Chaos gets wipped out, THEN they might try to do something. Understand that Winderemere's region of space is unimportant. Fold Quartz access is fine, but it isn't that urgent.

You remind me of that time when my house was broken into and I called the police. The cops just filed a report for the missing goods and that's it, they could send forensics if they wanted but why would they?
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>>146724363
>>146724363
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>>146724727
There are none. They still have to do their galactic policeman duty and suppress rioting windniggers.
>>146724731
Windies are rioting niggers-tier. So NUNS should do something.
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>>146724602
>But shouldn't that get mentioned in the show? Not just to settle questions like these, but to also better establish our setting as a minor conflict.
Chaos is a private merc group, and the top pilots are not really that good. That's enough proof that this is a small conflict.
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>>146724803
>Windies are rioting niggers-tier. So NUNS should do something.
If the rioting was in some major planet then it would have mattered. But no one is going to care about a riot in some tiny mining community at the edge of civilization.
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>>146724803
>There are none
Source: your fucking ass again.
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>>146724580
The reactive explosion on the Protoculture ruins is a planned experimennt. It is sort of like two phrase plan, first is to draw in the signur valens in range and blow it up along with the protoculture ruins. Didn't he said non-chalantly that the result of the explosion is like what the scientists had anticipated?
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>>146724873
It literally 'niggers are rioting in suburbs, sir'. You're supposed to suppress there niggers.
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>>146724557
No?

He tells Roid that he won't believe it until sees proof with his own eyes. But he doesn't say a thing to Bogue. Why should he? Bogue is up on his usual high horse. He just looks at Freyja and gently tells her to sing for them when she cries.
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>NUNtards are /pol/acs

I'm shocked.
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>>146724994
>It literally 'niggers are rioting in suburbs, sir'. You're supposed to suppress there niggers.
Not suburbs. More like a village in Africa. There are constant minor wars in Africa and no one really do anything about it. Same here with Windermere.
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>Kumokumo is actually a mentally stunted child through and through
Fuck. I hope she gets to live and Roid dies for using her for his plans.
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>>146724400
Maybe he wanted to steal DE from NUNS and give it to Windermerians. He thought it miht stop the war since NUNS would be afraid of Windies using it. And then something went wrong?

I seriously don't know. Lots of people thought Immeldad could be mind controlled or Var'd and I expected Roid to be somehow involved into it. But it seems Roid is as butthurt about nuking as any other windie. So it's not clear who could mind controll or Var him.
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>>146725039
/pol/ is still alive?
>>146725052
That's not so minor village when they are literally rioting on your territory filled with YOUR citizens.
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>>146724517
>Annihilation Judgement
Genocidefags are celebrating.
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>>146725101
>That's not so minor village when they are literally rioting on your territory filled with YOUR citizens.
Not your citizens. We are talking about vassal states of non-Earthlings.
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>>146725162
They are still part of your goverment.
>vassal states
Democracy, ahoy. They have autonomy.
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>>146725101
>/pol/ is still alive?
Unfortunately.
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>>146725073
Roid was 13 when Windermere was nuked. There's no way he'd have played a part there.

On the other hand, the photos of NUNS soldier having fun with windies make me think that they weren't bad per se, like probably this is all NUNS's higher ups and maybe Epsilon staging a war over Windermere's resources and all these people getting dragged into it. Someone, probably form Epsilon, VARed Wright, which doesn't excuse NUNS if they indeed did bring a DE to Windermere.
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>>146724944
This is what he said. It can be interpreted that scientists predicted existence of structure in fold space. It doesn't confirm he wanted to summon that thing. Especially since it was later revealed windies don't need nuke to summon it.
It's all very vague so we still need more episodes to see the real truth.
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>>146724517
>>Annihilation Judgement
>Komm, süsser Tod plays.
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>>146725231
>it's joos, murrican politics and alt-right shit
Oh, it was never about actual politics, but this is horrific. Cancer needs to be contained, though.
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>>146725101
>YOUR citizens.
All planets in that cluster are autonomous.
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>>146725285
>not The Unsung War or Megalith -agnus dei-
Wew.
>>146725340
They are still YOUR citizens. Windies are not.
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>>146725206
>Democracy, ahoy. They have autonomy.
Yes, but so did Greece in the EU. The point is that there is a war but it is small scale in the scheme of things. And that there is a very good chance it was all going to end without NUNs ever needing to show up, which proves them right that they weren't needed.
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>>146725408
They definetly are needed because windies are playing with VERY dangerous toys.
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>>146725271
>more episodes
This is basically what I'm asking for or it will just end up rendering that scene as redundant. I doubt they could cramp everything in 3 episodes.
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>>146725295
The problem is that it isn't contained. They lost all shame so they post literally everywhere. I even see /pol/acs in the comments section of my third world country's news websites.
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>>146725475
>They definetly are needed because windies are playing with VERY dangerous toys.
Toys that would end up solving the problem by itself. Everything is under control, Winderemere will pull the lever and cause their own Armageddon, and Chaos would be there to pick up the pieces. Then NUNs will show up to recover what's left of the planet and turn it into a giant Fold Quartz mine.
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>>146725559
They are even in /g/.
>>146725587
> Winderemere will pull the lever
Absolutely no one in NUNS knows about incoming exterminatus for windies. Using shitton of marvellous tech they developed, like unmanned drone fighters and their carriers, they can pacify windies in a week or so.
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>>146725670
>Absolutely no one in NUNS knows about incoming exterminatus for windies. Using shitton of marvellous tech they developed, like unmanned drone fighters and their carriers, they can pacify windies in a week or so.
What's the point of sending drones when Windermere is quite happy to kill themselves?

I wouldn't be surprised if NUNs in fact already KNOW what the ancient Ruins would do when truly activated, and deliberately gave Winderemere Mikumo as a trap. Winderemere would basically kill themselves off, and if NUNs know this was the outcome then they would have no reason to send any army at all.
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>>146725803
> What's the point of sending drones when Windermere is quite happy to kill themselves?
They don't know windies are going to kill themselves. No one knows, besides the viewer because you saw Zero. You don't wait for monkeys to press the right button on panel controlling nuclear launch. You remove that fucking monkey.
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>>146725907
>They don't know windies are going to kill themselves. No one knows, besides the viewer because you saw Zero.
There has to be a way for Lady M to matter. The only real way to connect with the plot would be that her research had already uncovered what the ruins truly are. There are not enough episodes left, all the loose ends have to loop together somehow. And the only way for NUNs conspiracy to be relevent, is if they had allowed the Ruins to be taken over knowing the true consequences.
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>>146726041
> And the only way for NUNs conspiracy to be relevent, is if they had allowed the Ruins to be taken over knowing the true consequences.
If that would be the case, NUNS would call back the garrisons instead of letting them die or be mind controlled.
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>>146726087
>If that would be the case, NUNS would call back the garrisons instead of letting them die or be mind controlled.
They are cold hearted bastards, remember? It is a conspiracy, you are not suppose to let your enemy suspect they are walking into a trap.
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>>146715634
I would pop a rune bones if Keith smiled at me too.
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>>146726255
> They are cold hearted bastards, remember?
If they were actually cold blooded bastards they would have genocided windies during the first contact. 40k-style.
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>>146726261
He would smile at Heinz before anyone.
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>>146726316
>If they were actually cold blooded bastards they would have genocided windies during the first contact. 40k-style.
Cold hearted, but mindful of costs. Bullets and fuel costs money. 40k is all about religious fanatics who work for free and don't have a real economy. They are cold, but mindful of making sure they don't spend more money on this conflict than what they could earn from the Quartz mines.
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>>146726454
> 40k is all about religious fanatics who work for free and don't have a real economy
No. Not at all. They just have to wage war against whole galaxy. And drones and carriers are not that costly.
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