What an utterly useless power.
>>146625432
It's good for handjobs.
>>146625432
>touch self
>immune to fire
>immune to freezing
>useless
>>146625432
It's good for pranks though
>Day hot as shit
>Friend comes to a.c. room
>Touch him and now he can't cool down
>>146626984
kek
Uiharu is cute! CUTE!
she can oc the shit out of her pcs and they don't overheat
She should star in a cooking spinoff.
>>146625432
>entropy manipulation is useless
It's not useless!
She can hold my tea
>>146625432
I suppose it could be used to counter Mugino's plasma beams if bumped up a few levels.
>inb4 the broscience posters show back up
Hehe
Just watch
THIS is what is known as a level 1 who has surpassed a level 1
You can just call it a level 2
AND THIS
IS
TO GO
EVEN
FURTHER
BEYOOOOOND!!
>>146625432
>someone is overheating
>grab them
>they overheat to death with no chance of cooling
she can prevent the heat death of the universe it's literally the most overpowered power there is
>>146627705
misaka can generate energy for the whole world with her power! no wait she cant, shes way too weak, and shes level 5.
what makes you think this urigani can influence the entire universe as a level 1 ?
>>146627385
that's not how it works you little shit
>>146625518
>>146625432
You high or something?
At lvl3, she can already control the laws of thermodynamics at a fundamental level
aka. once she activated it, all the air particles around her will remain in the same temperature. And if that happens, the lungs will not be able to break down the oxygen and her opponent would suffocate to death.
She can easily defeat accelerator and Touma without breaking a sweat
>>146627826
>misaka can generate energy for the whole world with her power
No one has ever claimed that. She can be Magneto in limited bursts with considerable effort involved. That's pretty much a step below Magneto himself, who practically controls magnetism effortlessly.
That 'effort' part is what gives Uiharu's power potential. Her power is sustained simply by her very existence. All she needs to learn is how to apply that power.
You guys realize she's not breaking entropy, but keeping something from exchanging heat with other things, right?
If you were to touch something she was touching, temperature-wise it'd be like touching the same area of your body that's touching the thing.
It won't be hot, it won't be cold, it will be exactly the temperature that surface of your body is.
At best, she's delaying entropy for an object until she stops touching it.
>>146628246
If the universe had a heart, all we have to do to save the universe is to get her to cling to it. Sure, its useless 99% of the time. We just need that 1%.
>>146625432
Just imagine it:
At lvl 2, this girl will find no problem in bringing down bridges and sky scrapers simply by preventing molecules from interacting with each other.
At lvl 3: all the air around her will be at her to command. Anyone within a radius of 100 meters will be unable to break down oxygen and absorb vitamin D
At lvl 4 her manipulation with the air temperature would be so great that even the organs of her opponents would no longer be able to break down their glucose and shit.
And without glucose and oxygen, brain cells will suffer permanent brain damage in less than 1 minute.
At lvl 5: her territory would encompass a quarter of the Earth
>>146628339
A heart needs more than just temperature to function, though.
>>146628514
>>146628339
Actually, if anything, the heart's inability to lose or gain temperature as a result of her touching it will almost immediately kill it, because the pumping itself produces a miniscule amount of heat.
This heat will have nowhere to go, as it can't increase the heart's temperature. Possibly, the heat may go to whatever is closest and able to accept it, but that's not certain.
At best, we could use her to keep the heart beating until something other than lack\excess of heat kills it. At worst, she'll immediately kill the heart.
>>146628514
My theory game is pretty weak so someone correct me if I am wrong
The universe is slowly creating heat and when there's enough of it, the whole universe will die. If a definite source could be identified (I.e a "heart" of the universe), Uiharu could stop this death of the universe, just by being there.
I don't think that anon means a literal heart.
>>146629195
>My theory game is pretty weak so someone correct me if I am wrong The universe is slowly creating heat and when there's enough of it, the whole universe will die
>>146629195
It's actually the opposite, my mentally challenged friend. The universe is slowly having all temperatures balance out, which will eventually result in movement being non-existent, and the universe will then cool down due to absolute zero.
By this point all matter in the universe will likely have become one big clump of matter due to gravity.
Like a swing which slowly swings slower and slower, hot and cold slowly bring each other closer and closer until there is no heat variation.
>>146629195
Well, that's just now how it is.
Heat death isn't the universe 'dying' when there's a certain amount of heat, and the universe isn't really creating heat.
The TL;DR is this:
Neither energy nor matter ever goes away or is created. All energy, when "used", goes into some lower form of energy, and the lowest of these is heat. The heat death is when all the sources of potential energy, like hydrogen and whatever fusing in stars, has been spent, and all the energy of the universe has gone down to heat. The universe doesn't "die" in some particular way, there's just no more potential energy, meaning nothing's happening and nothing can happen again.
(This is a rough-as-fuck explanation, you guys, please don't kill me)
>>146628514
>A heart needs more than just temperature to function
Is itlove?
>>146629852
If it was, /a/ would be a board of undead
>>146629852
No, otherwise all people with depression would end up dead
oh
>>146629895
why so mean
>>146629852
where's the futa version of this
>>146629852
You got the pair wrong my friend.
>>146629565
>>146629573
So when I run an engine with coal, the unneeded heat generated is lost forever, never to return;
and if I repeat that till I have converted all forms of potential energy in the universe into only heat, that's heat death?
>>146630139
Essentially, yes.
>>146630139
If you've never learned about the basic concepts thermodynamics then you're not old enough to be here.
>>146630139
Read "The Final Question". It's short and you will understand the concept a bit better.
>>146630363
"The Last Question" by Asimov
>>146629895
>implying you're not a skeleton
>>146629895
>He isn't an undead little girl
>>146630243
What if he never went to college?
I finished highschool and immediately started working full time, because I knew I had no use for something like college when all I wanted was a quiet, easy life and my hobby was basically free.
Uiharu is so nice, promoting /sci/ discussion.She also covers /g/ too but no one ever notices her thinkpads.
>>146630561
>>146629573 here
I never finished high school.
Learned this shit at some point in middle school (inb4 "it shows")
>>146630609
Yeah, I finished highschool through homeschool classes myself and only did learn about entropy and all that because I'd always been interested in space and the universe from a very young age. Most of what I know now is self taught.
>>146630561
The three laws of thermodynamics are taught in high school. It's pretty much common knowledge, you don't need to have a Physics PhD to understand how her power is related to entropy and the heat death of the universe.
>>146630732
I get the relation, but what I don't get is what Uiharu actually needs do.
What would she need to be touching to prevent all forms of potential energy in the universe from losing heat?
>>146630994
Everything, but separately.
This would, however, just result in an Uiharu-sustained, temporary heat death.
As nothing can exchange heat, nothing can happen, so for as long she continues touching everything, nothing happens.
>>146626896
She said she can't do it to anything too extreme in the anime. Something like fire wouldn't be stopped.
>>146628032
>the lungs will not be able to break down the oxygen
I think you'll find lungs don't break oxygen down into anything.
>>146627162
The only good value would be for the scientists to figure out how the fuck.
>>146628032
>the lungs will not be able to break down the oxygen
Am I missing some obvious science, or is this bitch just retarded?
>>146631080
*Potentially.
As discussed in >>146628709 it is possible that her power doesn't prevent the production of heat, and merely displaces it to the closest non-touched object.
In this case, everything would function as normal during the Uiharupocalypse, with the exception of it being impossible to heat up or cool anything. It would be an existence without temperature, but in all other ways I suppose the universe would function.
>>146631080
So Uiharu's ability, on the topic of preventing heat death, is one step forward, two steps back?
Since she has the ability to but can't feasibly touch
>everything
>>146630994
It doesn't work that way.
The theory about her being able to stop the death heat of the universe is fundamentally wrong.
Assuming she could emit a field that encompasses the while universe, the result wouldn't change.
If anything, she'd bring about that heat death the exact moment she activates her power, since nothing could exchange heat anymore.
>>146628433
She maintains not changes.
>>146631257
It's more or less unusable for preventing heat death, since really all it does is either simulate heat death by terminating all events which produce heat, or she creates an environment wherein all produced heat is ejected outside to an object outside the environment.
>>146630994
It's not possible at her level, with her current power she can just keep things constant by touch. Now, what this actually means is that all molecular movement stops the moment she touches whatever she wishes to keep warm/cold (absolute zero 0K).
As I understand it it's the core concept of her power that's completely broken, if you escalate the magnitude she could 'freeze' the universe preventing energy from changing/being transferred.
Her power can't reverse entropy (what Kyubey was trying to do), but she can keep the current entropy in a system constant.
>>146631250
We are all slowly dying. Oxygen is poisonous and it just takes a really long time for it to kill us.
>>146629565
>By this point all matter in the universe will likely have become one big clump of matter due to gravity.
dark energy disagrees.
>>146631450
I haven't read the novels, but is this
>Now, what this actually means is that all molecular movement stops the moment she touches whatever she wishes to keep warm/cold (absolute zero 0K).
canon, or is it fan theory?
From the anime, what I was lead to believe was that she created a closed system whenever she touched something.
I.E if she was touching a car, the car would still run, but likely give out fairly quickly as all the heat would be trapped within the car-exclusive system.
>>146627162
Its good, but its not great when the raw Newton value is low.
But Raildex fags forget what those Levels actually mean, all the time.
>>146631250
>>146631165
I think he meant breakdown as in diffuse
>at constant temperature with absolutely no possible molecular change, it is statistically impossible for oxygen to diffuse into the pulmonary membrane cappilaries
>>146630598
I DO ANON
I NOTICE THEM
BASED X41
>>146631965
>No flowers
Who's that? Myonri?
>>146631965
>>146631648
Yeah, the most likely scenario is that she creates a closed system on anything that will not cause any damage to her hands. Some anons are actually exaggerating (most likely jokingly) how powerful she would be at level 5 too considering how Accelerator's power is far more powerful and versatile than all of the other level 5s (with the exception of DM Kakine), and he can only manipulate the vectors of things he is in direct contact with. The AIM field doesn't spread out that far even at level 5. Things like preventing the heat death of the universe would be something a level 6 Uihara could possibly do, but I am leaning towards the idea that her power would either only stall or immediately cause universal heat death.
>>146631648
I'm not sure, she literally just says 'I can keep things I touch at a constant temperature'.
How this would affect a whole car that I do not know.
To keep something at a constant temperature you'd either have to
1. Transfer as much energy as something is losing, this would mean she can create energy (or else she would have to get that energy from some other sources like food or photosynthesis thanks to her forehead plants which would be unsustainable).
2. Prevent energy from being lost at all by instantaneously stopping molecular movement (entropy doesn't increase).
Maybe someone more knowledgeable on the subject can elaborate.
>>146634530
Fuck off feetfag
>>146631151
Maybe not at her current level.
>>146629989
>where's the futa version of this
I wish I was fast enough but I wouldn't be finished before the thread dies.
>>146635547
Start working.
Thread will live long enough.
>>146632522
Question. Isn't temperature measured with the movement of particles? Wouldn't 0 molecular movement mean a temperature of 0K?
>>146635833
Should we just hijack it like usual or is the thermodynamics discussion still going.
Now wait just a fucking minute.
If her power can basically halt all movement of an object by keeping it's temperature constant, and as it increases in magnitude has greater and greater extension.
Does that mean that eventually she could stop time?
>>146636065
That's the only way to stop entropy. Literally stopping time
>>146626984
>>146636121
But her power is basically anti-entropy.
So it follows that once her power is at it's full extension, she should be able to stop time and completely control the movements of the universe.
>>146636199
Yes, it was an positive answer
>>146636014
Doesn't matter, anon will have his time.
>>146635547
Hope you started your work.
>>146636065
>If her power can basically halt all movement of an object by keeping it's temperature constant
Well, it could be that she is "adding" extra temperature (either cold or warm) to the object she is touching in order to keep the temperature constant. That means that she has a temperature source inside of her body.
>>146636065
>stop time
Technically.
But assuming her maximum range only extends to the Earth and not the entire solar system, she may very well be able to kill off the entire human race.
Freezing the entire Earth would either result in a different lunar orbit with a risk of terrestrial impact, or the Earth being pushed out of its current orbit and in a uninhabitable zone, if not oitright expelled from the solar system.
>>146636497
>Well, it could be that she is "adding" extra temperature
Reminded me of this
You do realize that would kill her, right?
>insulting Kakine's waifu
>>146636001
Yes, that's what 0K is.
>>146636497
She wants to keep an X object at a constant temp. If said object was at a lower temp than the ambient temp it would mean the object would eventually get warmer if she did not use her power.
So to keep it at constant temp she would have to constantly absorb the energy (heat) from the object to keep it at a temp below ambient temp.
This would eventually cause over heating, as a human's ability to lose heat (sweating, etc) is not without its limits. It would eventually lead to dehydration and other issues leading to death.
In the case of an object Y that was warmer than ambient temp (which would get eventually colder), she would have to transfer heat to keep the object's temp constant.
Exertions means you use calories, she would not be able to keep up with the demand forever, again hypothermia, exhaustion, death.
>>146625432
She can't be boiled and freeze to death.
>>146625432
>useless
>you would never have warm sodas ever again
are you truly this ignorant or did you have to learn it?
Level 5s don't really have much physical range. They're all only able to affect things in their most immediate surroundings. Uiharu at hypothetical Level 5 would not be that powerful. The actual nature of her power wouldn't change much.
Level 5s in general aren't really all that impressive in the grand scheme of things. A hypothetical Level 6 can theoretically reach the calculations of God, which would put them at Magic God class. At that point, the specific nature of one's abilities become entirely irrelevant.
>>146631876
>>146628032
if the particles can't move then wouldn't that mean your cells would immediately cease to function and they would stop burning oxygen so you wouldn't suffocate. rather you would be suspended animation until she lets go.
>>146631965
>No logo in lower right of keyboard.
Uiharu is only useful for being Kakine's kickbag
>>146639692
Anon please, in a few years she'll be soldiering with the Dragon Killers.
>>146636190
>>146636190
>>146636190
I keked. Here's my triple (you)
>>146625432
I can't believe you fuckers had the same goddamn thread again.
these threads, to me more than anything else, serve to show how the author didn't really think things through when picking superpowers and explaining their workings
Accelerator should be a fucking God capable of disintegrating anything he wanted down to the very subatomic particles
>>146636190
Source?
>>146640516
If Accel ever did get forced into level 6 that's exactly what he could do. It's more or less that he still has limitations.
>>146640634
If he was Level 6 it wouldn't really matter what his power is because he'd be borderline omnipotent. A Level 6 Accelerator and Level 6 Saten would be basically the same.
>>146640516
You can only do so much with what you're able to calculate.
>>146640710
He'd still get stomped by magic gods honestly.
>>146640319
Welcome to Raildex, one of the most autistic fanbases in the history of /a/.
>>146640781
So would everything.
>>146640516
He might be able to, he's just never had a reason to try to do so. He never realized he could make plasma until he took a fist to the face.
>>146628243
>All she needs to learn is how to apply that power.
Write this Kamachi! NAU!
>>146640319
I can say that to a third of the threads on /a/ right now.
>>146640825
We're insane, not autistic, there's a slight difference somewhere.
>>146640962
Mobileposter is the very definition of autistic.
You're all retarded with the entropy shit.
Her power is useless.
>>146625432
Wait, does that mean she can't feel hot when she touches herself? This power is even worse than I thought.
>>146641043
Well he certainly don't speak for all of us.
>>146640866
>Accelerator's level of apathy is mankind's plot armor
>the more he cares, the more likely everyone dies
>hold ice cream
>it never melts
WOW
>>146636190
Link?
reverse image search doesn't tell.
>>146640825
At least Raildex brings the "good" type of autism.
Like, goddman, just look at this thread.
>>146641969
>At least Raildex brings the "good" type of autism.
You're not a regular on Raildex threads, are you?
>>146642033
We can only discuss who is best girl so many times in our lives. Its pic related, btw.
>>146641616
She has to actually touch it, so she would feel cold on her hands and it would get messy.
>>146625432
Hold hands and keep warm on a cold day.
Keeping your food warm when you are running a bit late.
Her waifu powers are useless? Fuck you!
Besides, she is only level 1. Picture her "Thermal Hand" powers at a higher level with more training.
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Thermal_Manipulation
>>146642201
>Can keep a PC cool by resting her bare feet on it
Truly the ultimate waifu for the PC master race.
>>146642118
>Best girl
Not even best Railgun, not even best teleporter, not even best member of the slut brigade.
>>146642834
>Can keep a PC cool by resting her bare feet on it
Anon...
>>146644206
What classifies as a single object in this case?
>>146644418
>in this case?
The case
When the fuck is Fiamma gonna become important again?
>>146644550
Would it though? We've already seen that for espers what classifies as a "body" is up to interpretation. The pieces of a computer are all connected, so if she couldn't keep that cool she wouldn't be able keep anything with multiple components steady. Food, for example.
>>146644418
You do make a valid point, honestly.
She did keep the food warm without touching it directly, so perhaps she could be able to cool down the entire PC instead of just the external casing.
Fuck it, esper powers are magic anyway.
>>146644775
Yeah she didn't have direct contact with the food she kept warm.
So she just needs contact with the case to cool the entire computer.
>>146635547
Are you doing your job, anon-kun?
Uiharu a shit
>>146645540
You a shit.
>>146645540
>Lies to strangers that are kindly asking her for directions
She deserved everything she got
>>146640962
More like pseudo-intellectual.
>>146631965
I did my research, thats a X60s
How come other Raildex side characters don't get power discussions like this?
>>146645199
>your job
Hey there mate slow down a bit.Also, no.
Kinda disapointed her powers wasn't related to the flowers.
>>146648450
Its ok, Kamachi fixed that mistake
>>146648541
Please don't compare Uiharu to that slut
>>146625432
holy shit this power sounds fucking bro->>146631151
why, why would you gimp something with interesting potential.
>>146648707
Make everything to overpowered and you end up like shitty American comics.
>>146648797
yeah but this just sounds like the inverse where they make a power and make it useless by relegating it to party tricks and "holy shit I found a bomb that has a heat sensor on it, who could possibly help us?"
>>146625432
Think of it at Level 5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgPkXpRv9aI
>>146625432
can prevent a power plant from melting down...
>>146649419
>designing a reactor such that it is capable of a melt down
What is this, 1965?
>>146649581
It's Academy City, they have worse OSHA compliance than the Death Star.
>>146649701
>Putting Rocket boosters in your building
>>146625432
DESU, she'd make a good nurse.
She could help people with fever to not let it go higher.
>>146649804
I hate word filters..
could she touch bullets so they could never go off?
or hell could she capture heat from bullets, what about transferring maintained heat?
>>146649879
It's there to stop people from typing like retards.
>>146650068
desu senpai cuck baka
>>146649879
because implying using t.b.h. is retarded.
>>146635419
And she won't ever level up
>>146640781
Hypothetical Level 6 is basically omnipotent. In other words, a science-based Magic God.
Since Crowley has no interest in Magic Gods, though, it's irrelevant. From the very beginning, Crowley never gave a shit about SYSTEM.
>>146646767
Uiharu is secondary-friendly.