Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1658

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ガンバル

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>>146617189

草くそ

>>146617189
ぞい！

Man I fucking hate kana only words

>>146617362
Man i fucking hate your ass

>>146617384
表出ろ

>>146617421
I wanna fuck you

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When you see it...

>>146617564
なんてこ゜った

>>146617564
How the fuck is that pronounced

>>146617603
ngo

>>146616253
>いや無理だよｗ　実際私は読めなかったし普通習わないからね
テメーはバカだからねｗ
普通にエロゲを読むならたまには見える漢字だけど
何も読まないバカが分かるわけ無いｗ

>>146616783
妖怪だよ
いっぱいセックスした

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>>146617603
びだくおんのひょうきはだくてんだよ

>学校

びだくおんだけど、かきもじは「がっこう」だよ

８０ねんくらいまえまでは、かきもじは「ぐわつこう」だったよ。びだくおんをくべつしていたんだとおもうよ

がんばっておにいちゃん

>>146617756
そうですか
ありがとういもうと先生
スリーサイズは何

日本語でできる面白いゲームを教えて

レイプレイ

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>>146617189
I've uploaded a more up-to-date version of the djt.neocities offline archive that can be found via the "offline archive" or via the following direct link:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9chml4ihdaakj19/djt_learn_japanese.zip
Pic related is what is inside the zip. The djt_offline/djt_online.html files are shortcuts that can be placed on the desktop or what have you. Opening them in your browser will function the same as using the neocities site, only the obvious exception that they are local files, and the "offline" version of the site is hosted entirely locally outside of the grammar reference, feedback and dojg site/deck QC links. The final two for obvious reasons and the grammar reference because it is a different site entirely and not finished yet. An offline version of the current form of that would be nearly 100mb, with the image files, making it not really worth archiving, yet.


Reason I'm posting is mainly for feedback from the anons who were after an offline version, and a version they can easily host themselves, etc. For those wondering, yes they are static html pages, meaning they are not dynamic google documents pages. They are however very easy to update, even the CoR/Reading list.

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>>146617883
あさから

しゃけ
そうめん
みずたき

だよ。ふとるようそはない

>３１日のたまねぎの値段が１ｋｇで１６９円で、３０日より１４円上がりました

なんでやねん、台風のくせに

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>捗る

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I'm currently reading a book about Japanese history.

Did you know that back then, Japanese people only learned a set of vocabulary needed to do their job?
Kinda explains how such a complex writing system was even remotely usable, I mean even today it takes many years for them to learn their kanji, so I was always wondering how they did that back then.

There is also the story of a 8 year old boy that had the task to practice 4000 kanji everyday, I assume if he failed they would tell him to kill himself like they did all the time for no reason back then.

Man if had to kill myself if I don't do 4000 reps everyday I would probably become 出来る in no time.

>>146620116
>8 year old boy that had the task to practice 4000 kanji everyday

That's what happens when you fall for the kanji study meme

Should have just done core

>>146620116
>Did you know that back then, Japanese people only learned a set of vocabulary needed to do their job?
The same thing happened all over the world. Not many fishermen would have known words such as stochastic or declension a few hundred years ago, if they even know them now.

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かけるようになるまで

１０ねんくらいかきとるから

かんじかけるようになるだけで

がいじんのあのんくんにwritingはつらいよね

勉強に集中しなさい

>>146620876
無理

>>146620876
不可能

>>146620876
今出来たけど

>>146620876
おにいちゃんはたまにいいことをいう

>>146620417
Can confirm. I'm a fisherman.

where in the guide do I find the yotsuba reading guide.

>>146621559
In the yotsuba reading guide section

>>146621559
Yotsuba Reading Pack

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>>146621629

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Where does DJT download Japanese subtitles? I used kitsunekko but some subs are just super off. Anyone got some other sites?

>>146621760
animelon

>>146621860
This is surprisingly good, thx /a/non

あっつぅぅぅ

>>146618367
レイプなんか酷いわよ

Has anyone got a list of the most common words sorted by frequency in a *balanced* corpus (not just light novels or just newspapers like the ones I've found)?

>>146621860
>streaming

just give me the god damm subs

>>146622619
なに～？
私のボイプッシーをレイプしてくださいって？
まあ構わないけどぉ～

>>146622789
If you want the subs to be synced then just use the damn site and stop complaining you autist

>>146622901
>just use the damn site

nah, if its streaming or nothing, ill take the nothing, thanks anyway

>>146622686
http://core6000.neocities.org/freq/
>Based on a 100 million word corpus, composed of spoken, fiction, non-fiction and news texts in current use,

>>146622789
>>146623055
Check it out before complaining. It's pretty good.

>>146623055
Even if the quality was unbearably shit, which it isn't, surely you'd still prioritise listening practice over having a slightly lower quality picture

>>146617564
I don't see it.

>>146623567
Nevermind I'm retarded

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＞ヤツ
???

>>146623678
Watch like 3 animes and you'll understand it don't worry i believe in you 信じてる沿い

>>146623678
>やつ(P); しゃつ(ok) 《奴》 (pn,adj-no) (1) (やつ only) (uk) (derog) fellow; guy; chap; (2) (やつ only) (col) thing; object; (3) (derogatory or familiar) he; she; him; her; (P)
>(2) (やつ only) (col) thing; object;

Why are you so stupid, anon-kun?

ラノベの文章はBroken Japaneseだから日本語の勉強には向かない。

>>146624049
ラノベって何

>>146624049
分かった
エロゲに専念する

ひらがなと漢字の使い方を知りたい場合は
"Flowers for Algernon"の日本語訳を読むと良い。

>>146624671
ヒラガナとかんじか

>>146624860
平仮名とカンジでもある。

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Can somebody translate this for me?

もっとおもしろい、描きがいのある作品を充ててやってほしい・・・・とはいうものの、今の世界では、おもしろい作品はすべて、作家の名前を使って別人が描いてる始末だものね。消費者としてはやってられない。

>>146625263
Context plox

>>146625449
It's a comment from an anime video I made.

Here's the whole thing:

アニメーターたちの技術はすこぶる目覚ましいものがあるというのに、描く作品のレベルの低さというのはなんとかならんものかね。進撃の巨人でも、あの原作は落書きだろうってくらいのものだからね。もっとおもしろい、描きがいのある作品を充ててやってほしい・・・・とはいうものの、今の世界では、おもしろい作品はすべて、作家の名前を使って別人が描いてる始末だものね。消費者としてはやってられない。

>>146625621
It says you're shit

>>146625621
>>146625263
he's just whining about modern anime and such it's nothing about your video

>>146625968
>>>/tv/
>>>/pol/
>>>/v/

>>146625621
>もっとおもしろい、描きがいのある作品を充ててやってほしい・・・・
I want animators to get a better job.

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>>146626054
>>146626159
Thanks.

>>146626099
>>>/co/
>>>/lit/
>>>/v/

How do you pronounce words like 完了 that have an ん and then a "r" series sound after it? Feels kind of weird.

>>146627073
You're probably pronouncing your r's wrong

>>146627073
Your tongue shouldn't change position at all while transitioning between the n and r.

>>146627663

That's the part that feels weird. Like the sound blends and doesn't sound right.

>静寂に包まれていた
>包まれていた
How is this usually read, kurumu or tsutsumu? Anki thought me the latter but rikai has kurumu first

>>146627732
Make a Vocaroo recording or something. I don't know how else to help you if all I have to go off of is "it sounds weird."

>>146627073
I also have trouble with the nry although no problem with just nr

the りょ seems like it requires the kind of hammering of the tongue against the roof of the mouth

>>146627899
http://vocaroo.com/i/s008dl4IWQHm

>>146627929
Your tongue should already be pressing against the roof of your mouth from the ん. Then it pushes off forcefully from the roof of the mouth while you're expelling air.

>>146628067
１０/１０完璧

>>146628067
I hate to sound condescending but if you're worried about your pronunciation sounding weird you've got more problems than just んりょ.

The word should sound closer to this:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1WXY2Rskxaq

>この瞬間も、先輩を秒刻みで好きになっている。

That's a typo, right? 病気？Else I need an explanation for 秒刻み

>>146628355
Second-by-second
http://ejje.weblio.jp/content/%E7%A7%92%E5%88%BB%E3%81%BF

>>146628296
かん　りょう　ＤＩＧ ＩＴ ＳＵＣＫＡ！

>>146627929
Say "butter" in an american accent. Not say "buddy" the same way. Not with a hard, difficult "d", but with a very rapid one.

Now say "buddio". Make it fast.

The "dyo" there is the same as the japanese りょ. Because japanese does natively distinguish "d" "i" as a valid sequence of consonant and vowel (it comes out as "dji" or "zhi" instead), this is not an overlap between different sounds.

You just have to make sure that your "r/d" sound does not sound like a voiced "t", like some anglos with heavy arbitrary gemination and aspiration do without realizing.

Your "r/d" sound needs to be very fluid when pronouncing a ら series syllable. Conversely, your だ series syllables need to be precise, otherwise you sound like those girls getting wrecked in doujinshi when they go 「らめらっ！」

>>146628296
http://vocaroo.com/i/s05dMpXoSNiJ

>>146628763
>Tfw Americans don't know the difference between "tt" and "dd"

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>>146628782
I was waiting for this.

>>146628085
Yes, that is how you pronounce nr. Again, the problem is only when the y is there.
>>146628763
So you just do the "y" as a short い instead of as a "consonant"?

>>146629161
Of course. Some people analyze it as palatalization, but that's wrong. It's just a diphthong that starts on "y". The "cu" in "cute" is identical to "きゅ".

>馬車
>not うまくるま

i quit japanese...

>>146629304
I think if it was うまくるま no one would have been able to say it with a straight face

Got to do my reps before this storm, according to the news, destroys everything in its path.

>>146629226
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1VSQ1creQeY
muzukashii

>>146629462
You're trying too hard to make sure it rolls. With this bad mic quality it almost sounds like じょ at some times.

>>146628296
Do you think I'd sound like a retard if I just used the latin trilled r?

>>146629572
You'll always sound like a retard if you try to pronounce Japanese using the sounds from another language. That's what having a foreign accent is all about.

But a trilled r is closer to らりるれろ than the English rhotic r, so go for it.

>>146629529
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1xTtJ60txrb
tried doing it lazier

>>146629831
Some of those are fine, others aren't. You have the right idea, you'll figure out the exact right articulation with time.

Any one know good japanese image board to see how japanese people talk to each other?

>>146617189
Yo, I just taught myself Katakana and Hiragana during my free time. I also know a good chunk of Chinese characters from dicking around with Chinese over the past couple years.

I have a background in learning languages, and checked some of the basics of the grammar and doesn't have the normal pitfalls of learning European languages (varied plurals, nominal infliction, gender). It seems inferring subjects is a difficulty with the language, as well as the adjectival infliction.

I'm curious what parts of Japanese make it very difficult. I may very well learn this shit, considering I'm getting into Kool Korean Kartoons now.

>>146630055
>I'm curious what parts of Japanese make it very difficult

Resisting the urge to skip all the dialogue and just fap when you're doing reading practice with doujins and eroge

>>146630055
>I'm curious what parts of Japanese make it very difficult

Vocab. You can't cheat by inferring the meanings of words due to common latin or greek or w/e roots like with European languages.

>>146630222
He might be able to actually since he said he knows Chinese.

I don't know how much it's changed over the years but I think the chinese meaning of kanji is at least somewhat similar to root words.
I know there's tons of exceptions, but isn't there also a ton of really common words that are composed of kanji which fit the chinese meaning of the kanji pretty closely?

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>>146630213
>>146630222
I've seen a lot of loan words in the stuff, but yeah, a complete lack of vocab similarity and the sheer fapability of a lot of this shit will sure get in the way.

Thanks champs.

>>146630392
Well I'm pretty sure it's still the most difficult part of Japanese since everything else (barring maybe pronunciation depending on your mother tongue) is relatively straightforward.

>>146630433
Jesus christ man. If only there was a hole in that shirt at the bottom

>>146630392
>but isn't there also a ton of really common words that are composed of kanji which fit the chinese meaning of the kanji pretty closely?
There is, but even then he has no idea how to pronounce them since there's no logic to how kanji compounds are pronounced.

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>>146630055
Refer to graph. It seems daunting when you know nothing, but when you begin learning the basics you start to think maybe Japanese isn't as hard as people say it is, that it's merely a rumor to drive off the weak willed. Then you actually started to learn it in earnest and you bravado turns to despair.

>getting impatient with my reviews
>accidently hit "good" on a card I didn't know
Is there a way to undo this? I guess it'll probably correct itself the next time the card comes up and I don't know it, but it's kind of bothering me now.

>>146630481
Dunning-Kruger effect is a bitch, ain't it.

>>146630515
Ctrl+Z.

>>146629697
I can't even pronounce the thrilled r in my own language, if I ever have to speak with native speaker I'll sound extremely retarded

>>146630481
I'm definitely in the experiencing despair part. I'm going to keep trying though because fuck it I'm not letting all the hours I put in go to waste.

>>146630599
You have to がんばるぞい every day, but if you really try and put in the work you can overcome nihongo despair.

>>146630566
From what I've been able to tell, the way to properly do a Japanese r is your curl your tongue to the upper part of your mouth, and you flap it forward a bit, and produce a sound that sounds like an amalgamation of r, d, and l.

>>146630655
This is pretty much correct. It waffles between those three sounds, so that sometimes it sounds almost exactly like one of them. In some songs I listen to the R's sound almost exactly like L's.

>>146630642
The cool part about this shit is the near limitless access to the listening and hearing parts of language learning.

Also, the day will soon come where Japan will be able to utilize the enormous population of NEETs and weebs that's been training for the last 30 years to come and bolster the Japanese birth rate. Soon...

>>146630723
ありがとう

I needed my Aoba-chan fix.

>>146630055
The main hard part is just that, unlike chinese, readings of kanji in words are very unpredictable. Also, the grammar is very different from English.

But knowing characters is a big advantage, especially if you know some traditional too. You can probably handle 50 new words a day in Core. And once you know 4k words or so it's a lot easier to pick up grammar (not that you should be completely ignoring grammar before that point)

>>146630481
Except most people who think they are on the second hump are probably actually on the first hump ;-)

>>146630655
Was just going to say this.

I've been doing it that way this whole time because I thought I read somewhere that that's the right way to do it, but everyone in DJT always seemed to say something else.

It makes my r's sound more accurate than anything else I've tried at least.

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>>146630771
>Except most people who think they are on the second hump are probably actually on the first hump ;-)
That's why you have to refer to this graph also.

>>146630989
Maybe you can't tell from the top of Mt. Stupid but this is /a/ and DJT, not /pol/.

>才能も努力も頑張りも運も使い果たした後に残るのは「執念」だね。
>After running out of Luck and Talent only "Obsession" remains.
Judge me

>>146631025
We told you that it was about discipline and not motivation dude
why didn't you listen

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>>146630723

>>146630655
>>146630697
I always thought it was something between r and l, never really heard anything similar to d there.

Got any examples where it sounds more like d?

>>146630989
Fucking christ why do you pol guys come to this board. Isn't anime degenerate to you guys?

>>146631248
Like this: >>146628296

り、りゃ、りゅ、りょ are where it sounds most like "d".

>>146631103
There isn't a debate you dumb /pol/tard, you just got triggered by a joke image and started sperging in this thread.

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>>146631228
ちょっとやりすぎたかしら

>>146631987
面白くないもんそれ

>>146630785
Yeah. If it's wrong, I will change that in a heartbeat, but at least for now it matches the weeb trash shit I listen to.

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Can someone help me figure out what this says?

>>146631293
I hang out on there for memes n' shit. There are camps. One camp thinks anime praises traditional values and proper lifestyles, but only the correct anime.

Tomoko, my truest waifu, is degenerate in their eyes. : (

>>146632317
And lefty/pol/ and a large amount of the good trolls left for /s4s/ or decided to get some poon and move on with their life, so what's left are stormfags, $hills, and 13 year old retards.

ni hao

I'm having more trouble remembering the vocab I mine myself than the super random garbage core 10k throws at me.

I guess the audio cues really make a difference.

>>146632316
扉ふさげ

>>146632526
That makes sense, thank you.

おはようおにいちゃん

みどりのはっぱしようよ

ウェイクアンドベイクだよ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hm2PXjrDhU

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>>146630566
You're saying you can't pronounce it? Then I guess your r... is not thrilled about it.

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>>146632827

ダサい "ジャパニーズ" スレッド

>>146617189
「私わ　毎日　六時に　内へ　帰ります」
Does this makes sense?

>>146634647
oops I meant 家

>>146634647
What you want is 我每天晚上六点回家

>>146634746
I'm getting really tired of your shit you chink fuck

大東亞共榮圏 when

>>146617611
it says so right in the picture you stupid fuck

>>146634834
In another 3 months or so I'll be fluent and won't feel the need to shitpost about it all the time.
Until then 我慢我慢

猫粪屁眼

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>Other students (no prior kanji knowledge)
>N1 3000–4800 hours
>N2 1600–2800 hours
>N3 950–1700 hours
>N4 575–1000 hours
>N5 325–600 hours

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>>146635900
>asshole is fart eye in chinese

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Let's all learn Japanese now lads. Let's do this!

Using magick and hard work we will succeed!


>>146632317
>One camp thinks anime praises traditional values and proper lifestyles, but only the correct anime.

>>146636405
Fortunately you can spend most of that time playing porn games.

a student of the [ero] game

Today I did Anki for 34 minutes and then I read a visual novel for 2 hours and 27 minutes.

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>>146636646
ゼシカはやりすぎたんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

もげればいいのに

>>146637322
What VN?

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Okay /a/, here's a scenario for you.

One day, while you're sitting at your desk, a magical loli fairy flies out of your ass. She says she has a deal for you:

With one magical spell, she can make it so that you can master any language instantly, so long as you physically go to that country and spend 24 hours there. You will master the written and spoken forms of that language as well as all dialects and accents. You will be able to speak flawlessly and write with perfect grammar.

As a consequence however, once the spell is cast, you lose memory of all significant life events before you turned 18. This includes the names and faces of your parents, plus essentially everything you learned up through HS. You won't forget how to breathe or anything, but you won't remember any of your friends or any class you've taken before then. You can relearn all of this stuff, but your brain is forever altered in such a way that remembering names of people and even their faces is difficult. You can also relearn stuff you learned in school, like basic math and science, but it takes significantly more effort.

You will forget your native language, but you will regain full control after 24 hours at home.

Do you accept her offer, /a/?

>>146617189
After a year of studying Japanese i feel silly having this question, but here it is:
is there a different pronunciation betwen じょ and よ ? i am a native spanish speaker and i cant really tell

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>>146637428
Jessica is beautiful ._.

>>146637612
Yes. Just like there's a difference between jo and yo in English. And yump and jump

>>146637611
>plus essentially everything you learned up through HS
I don't want to have to go through Discrete Math for the first time again fuck that

>>146637710
Fuck, i really can't tell them apart...

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Ohio, DJT.

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>餅について話そう
>餅のことは話そう
Is there a difference between these sentences?

>>146637612
SONO CHI NO SADAME

YOOOOOOOYO

>>146637937
one was written by a japanese person (or by you closely copying a japanese person) and one by you making stuff up

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so hebrew is based on pictograms and i tried to match the pictograms with japanese

not very good at japanese yet so im open to help

>>146637611
No that would be dumb. It's easy enough to learn a language without help. She's gotta offer something better than that.

>>146636405
Sounds like some pretty inefficient study to be honest. Like I bet 2k+ hours is accurate for N1, but you could easily get N4 in 300 hours or so. You could probably pass N5 a couple weeks after learning kana if you work hard at it.

>>146638161
Correct.
I just thought the bottom was correct too.

>>146636405
that doesn't sound right

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>既読無視

>>146639502
Fuck off back to your shithole

>>146628067
This sounds so american.

>>146637762
It's easy. Compare the "ji" sound in "John" and the "yo" sound in "Toyota"

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This thread is so dead.

What are you guys studying?

Did twenty new words in anki and now reading DQVs script mostly for understanding sentence structures since it is pretty simpilistic and the kanji I already know forthe most part.

http://light37.web.fc2.com/dragon/dq5/dq5wordsy/d5storyy1.htm

Also playing the the Super Famicom version and almost finished with it in the DS version. Want to finish it before DQ7 comes out this month.

I have such a large backlog though.

>>146641148
ブログしても救わないよ

六百万はうそですか

>>146641148
Aside from my daily reps, I'm reading https://vndb.org/v15393
I've also been watching　実況プレイ for listening practice.

>>146641478
問題発言は注意しましょう

私のちんこは注意しましょう

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>>146641148
I'm reading 久住君、空気読めてますか？It's okay. I'll give it a few more chapters since not a lot has happened yet.

Otherwise I need to do 'real' studying for N2. Should probably do that now that I think of it.

any recommended add-ons for anki?

>decide I want to learn nip speak
>learn the hiragana symbols
>think I'll be able to read some japanese texts

So why exactly is this language such a clusterfuck of different scripts?
As if Kanji wasn't bad enough, it's mixed with two other sets of symbols?
Why not just hiragana or katakana for that matter?

Is there a way to see how many times i failed a card or how close it is to becoming a leech?

>>146642501
Because languages are the product of thousands of years of history and not designed for the express purpose of making it as easy as possible for you to learn so you can play your porn games

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>>146642456
Auto import is the greatest tool you will ever have studying Japanese. Kanji grid is pretty cool also.

Now that I think about it my kanjigrid got deleted. Does anyone have a link to it?

>>146642501
Read more and you will find out. The three different scripts are like the easiest part. Katakana is generally used for loan words, sounds, and is generally used to differentiate things that aren't normal.

>>146641580
N2.
How long have you been studying for to be at that level?

>>146641491
Nice...what games?

I want to get a slime tattoo.

>>146642456
Kanji grid, replay buttons (if you have audio on your cards) and real time import (if you are mining as you should)

今のスレ状況に　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfq4zjzpTPA

>>146642719
>How long have you been studying for to be at that level?
That's a hard question because I 'studied' for a long time but didn't get far and gave up for a while. I got serious and actually started to make real progress two years ago.

>>146643318
When I was in the navy for two months I came back I didn't forget a thing at all. My reps were behind but took a couple of days to get back into place.

>>146642501
Because Japanese has a shitload of homophones. Without kanji it'd be hard to make out the words in a text. On the top of that they don't even use spaces. It all boils down to the fact you can't make as many sounds with the Japanese syllables as with Latin letters

>>146642719
>Nice...what games?
Nothing really specific, but I've been enjoying 幕末志士's videos recently.

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>>146641148
Went through a bunch of nihongonomori's n3 grammar videos. They're super easy to understand, highly recommend them if you fall asleep while reading text grammar guides.

I got a jp player's guide for DQI & II from a game shop a little while ago, considering going through one of those, or VI since I have the sufami carts lying around. Have you played any of those in japanese?

Also 二の国, but I still can't find a script for it.

Fuck, how do I prevent my ESL and JTL from showing?

>>146643744
Don't speak with natives.

>>146643744
Read, read, read, then listen, listen, listen. Work on pronunciation, shadow some audio, make use of scaffolding phrases and natural pause words if you must talk.

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>>146643724
I skipped I & II in Japanese just because it was written too simplistic for my liking tbqh.
VI is probably the perfect game to practice with. I was using that for a minute. Final Fantasy 6-7-9 are great also.

>JP players guide
Awesome how did you snag that?

>>146643387
That's good to hear. It means you really learned it and it made it into your long-term memory.

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>>146644000
The shop just has a bookshelf dedicated to old player's guides and magazines and such. You have to do some serious digging but you can find nice stuff in there under all the old nintendo powers. It's probably some sort of trade in thing?

They had FF5 and FF7 guides too, but they were quite pricey, so I sprung for the cheaper DQ one.

Also are we doing random pictures now? Here is a katakana reading practice one I guess.

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>>146644250
>katakana reading practice

The most annoying character I have ever read was Robo from Chrono Trigger. the words he was saying was simplistic but he talked like a robot which is hard to read in Japanese.

I don't own enough things in real life in Japanese and it is all hard to find unless you specifically order it.

I just like JRPG tiddies which is why I keep posting them tbqh.

>>146644209
記憶
I just wanted to post that so I have more usage because I messed it up for some reason in my mined deck.

Is the best way to go about learning grammar just to simply read and look it up as you go?

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>>146644646
Pretty much. The first few months of beginning reading are hell. Have tae kim at hand.

>>146644646
Yes.

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>>146644459
Talked like a robot? Like all in katakana?

Also I don't think this is the thread for RPG tits, but here you go anyways. Perhaps make a thread on /v/?

>>146644646
For me, just reading about grammar doesn't work very well. It's good to have some idea of what it means, but to really GET it, yeah, you need to experience it in context.

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>>146644750
>>146644766


The grind is real.

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>>146644785
ロボ「ゴヨウの時はいつでもお呼びクダサイ.

This is pretty simple but a decent example of his writing I guess. Basically he uses simple vocab but he makes it difficult because he writes random things in Katakana. Looking back at it it isn't as hard as I thought it was when I first finished it a year or so ago.

https://static.chronocompendium.com/Black/Publications/Retranslation/CT%20Retranslation%20-%20Chapter%209.htm

People are probably going to complain but it's on topic to Japanese learning and VNs are a staple of learning Japanese and they are just as offtopic. Ill post DFC tommorow or something lol.

漢字テスト
次の漢字の読み仮名をひらがなで書け。
1.著しい
2.無垢
3.償う
4.勘定
5.紛れる

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

How much would you generally make if you translate H doujinshi and start commissioning translations?

>>146645246
ちょしい
ないあか
しょうう
かんさだ
ふんれる

>>146645010
It certainly looks odd but I wonder if that wouldn't be easier for really beginner learners to parse?

Also considering playing いけにえと雪のセツナ but once again there are no guides (this one is relatively new though) and can only find walkthrough like sites. Since you mentioned going through CT you might like this one?
http://ds-can.com/setsuna/

>>146645353
0/5 motherfukka

>>146645396
(´・ω・｀)

私がdjtを覆すムービー

youtu.be/dDfpSYYQLsg#t=118

>>146645384
there are no scripts* whoops

>>146645322
I remember another anon saying it wasn't -that- much money because it's relatively time consuming in terms of the editing you'd be required to do. The translation part was easy, but the manual fixing of pictures + typesetting + redrawing is quite labour intensive.

>>146645322
Depends on where you're getting your raws from and whether or not you're going to scan, clean, typeset and QC them yourself. I don't know exact numbers but you can just look at some scanaltors site to see how much they charge.

>>146645384
I like that site tbqh from what I am seeing so far. I am going to go through it though more thoroughly. At the very least it has a bunch of useful grammar that will help you navigate Japanese websites.

Thanks for the link.

>>146645419
you made mistakes I expected

>>146645584
*as I expected

>>146645470
Lol I have grown up on professional wrestling so I love it. It inspires me in many ways. It got me to ift.

>>146645384
I am continuing from my last comment here.
>>146645530


That site is cool because it has walkthroughs to games I have beaten in English like
http://ds-can.com/zelda3ds/

Good find tbqh.

>>146645489
>>146645506
Is it illegal to just use someone elses raws from sadpanda and just edit it with a text editor?

>>146645798
I honestly don't know, but probably? Afaik raw scanners are super protective of them.

There is sometimes a scanlation thread on /a/, they might know more about it.

>>146623192
>>146623233
i will gladly use it as just a tool but its frustrating when i can see the subs are there but you cant download them on their own

I have agth hooked for my media player already setup, i can resync subs on my own using subedit so anytime i can do something offline i'll take it.

Especially given that sites like these legality is shaky at best and relying on them makes me uneasy

this thread is illegal.

>>146645798
Nope, unless it's been licensed somehow.

>>146645246
1. いじるしい
2. むく
3. つぐなう
4. かんてい
5. まぎれる

Well shit, close enough.

>>146645798
Not illegal but possibly frowned upon? Also, removing and readding text is a ton of fucking work, dude, unless you want it to look like shit which you probably don't if it's a commission.

>>146646145
3/5 not bad
japs could make the same mistake about 4

>>146646060
戒厳令をしく

youtu.be/gajN0Em3_Q8#t=59

>>146646336
It's illegal copyright infringement against the doujin creator. Not that there is any chance of that being enforced.

>>146646665
I meant that it's not any more illegal than grabbing scans with permission from the scanners.

The doujin creator is infringing copyright to begin with anyways. The people you stole your scans from are stepping on the toes of the doujin creator, and now you're the final step of this chain, stealing scans from the scanners (who never asked permission from the doujin creator, who never asked permission from the creator of the original media.)

>>146646957
really makes you think

>>146647014
yah i get really deep into thought when i see people waving their hands briskly

>>146617189
When should I start trying to read things? Should I finish up Tae Kim's grammar guide first or should I just jump into it?

>>146647188
>Should I finish up Tae Kim's grammar guide first
yes, then grab yotsuba reading pack and start on that
keep TK bookmarked

>>146647188
Just read Tae Kim as fast as you can and start reading something easy like Yotsuba while referring back to TK whenever needed. I also recommend doing at least the first 1000 words of Core2k so you don't have to look every other word up.

>>146645246
I knew all of those, so I made you a slightly harder one:
1.反物
2.荒む
3.解毒
4.独楽
5.行灯

>>146647304
Is there a way to find out how many words you've learned on Anki? All it gives me are the number of cards.

>>146647621
What's the difference?

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>>146647555

Please, I knew all of those except 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.

Step your game up, pleb.

>>146647736
Well, the cards repeat don't they? The number of cards I've seen aren't really the number of words I've learned.

>>146647829
statistics > card types
total number - unseen cards = cards you've "learned"

>>146645246
>1.著しい
>2.無垢
>3.償う
>4.勘定
>5.紛れる

１．いちじるしい
２．む...
３．＞ー＜
４．かんじょう
５．(;﹏;)

Just recently started the grind, any bad habits I should be conscious of not falling into?

>>146648131
posting on djt

>>146648131
dont look at the numbers at the bottom, look at the kanji, dont try and lose weight, at least 7 hours of unbroken sleep umm dont listen to music while doing reps

Wow reading Tae Kim now at 26 is much, much easier than when I was 19. Maybe I had no intention of really learning back then.

>>146648202
when the student is ready the teacher appears

>>146645010
In old games they usually words that would normally be written in kanji with katakana if the kanji is not available since they were working with tight memory limitations.

>>146648190
>>146648199
Noted

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>>146648199
>dont look at the numbers at the bottom, look at the kanji

>>146648131

Don't do RTK.

>>146648202
you could have lived your 20s so much better if you just stayed in school and got your degree at tyler kim university

>>146648317
when i used to do that, id feel bad for failing a long standing mature or get anxious that i wasn't finished yet or whatever
perhaps others wouldnt adopt the same habit, but it doesnt hurt to just focus your attention on whats more important anyway

>>146648461
Oh, you mean stare at the little numbers at the bottom of anki.
I do that on harder cards but I'm not paying any attention to the little numbers, I'm just searching my mind for the answer.

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Im thinking about making an anki deck with street signs, instructions found in ATMs and ticket vending machines, texts one finds in museums, things that would make it easier for someone who likes Japan to enjoy it a bit more.

What do you think?

About how long does it take to get Japanese and the character system down. I'm looking into learning but it's not like I can just up and move to Japan and immerse myself. How long would you guys say it took to be pretty fluent

>>146648573
nobody here is fluent

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>>146648131
>>146648323
The thread shits on RTK a lot, but if you find that during the grind the kanji are giving you a lot of trouble, consider some form of kanji study on the side. It usually happens when you encounter enough kanji with a very similar overall shape but different radicals - that are also sorta similarly shaped.

It doesn't matter which one you choose, radicals, KD, Kodansha, RTK etc. etc. they all lead the same place and will help you progress faster.

>>146648570
>What do you think?
Stop thinking about it and starting doing it.

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>>146648605
that grass looks fantastic m8

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>>146648573
>About how long does it take to get Japanese and the character system down
Less time than it takes to read the Guide, for most.

>>146648573
Fluent at what?

Reading? Speaking? Writing?

It depends on how serious you are about it.

Some people here talk about studying Japanese for 6+ years and have almost nothing to show for it.

Me myself have been studying for almost 3 months now and got the kana down + ~300 kanji and almost done with Tae Kim.

The first 2 weeks were hard. But studying is now a part of my daily schedule. It feels pretty great to be able to understand most of the Japanese spoken in the thread as well.

>>146648658
I posted here to know if someone knew if this had been already done

(´･_･`)

>>146649029
So what? Make a better one.

I hardly studied at all today.

>>146649192
Close this thread and start immediately.

>>146648605
roadways are for the common folk the true way to become ペラペラ is to fly through the skies overlooking the ground confined riff raff

I'm feeling like my studying is starting to become imbalanced.

I put a lot of effort into vocab and kanji but I just can't find the motivation to do any grammar and practice with it.

Some tips aside from "just do it"? (I know that I have to do it but it's a motivation problem.)

>>146649466
Read more.
This may sound like a meme answer, but it's the truth. The best way to practice grammar is being exposed to the language as much as possible. Find something that interests you, be it a manga, VN, game, whatever.

>>146649466
there are a lot of grammar forms you can treat as "vocab" and make cards out of

some are way too versatile/complex though and need to be read in the wild

>>146649161
thanks :)

bye, I'll be working on it

>>146649639
Post an update of your progress later, anon.

>>146647555
Well, I know that 5. is あんどん, but beyond that I have no clue.

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>be new
>check manga recommendations
>よつばと！
>homoerotic slang
what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs4gkmDxCTc

>>146650174
finally, now I can learn japanese

>>146650174
Who comes up with this shit?

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>>146650158
but its fun

>>146650578
Normalfags.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxvwQTRQ0cdvWlcvzOUhaw

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Why don't we have a 弁当屋 on every corner of the street?

I bet if you'd open one and market it as healthy eastern traditional shit people would replace their mcdonald with it.

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>>146650813
wow thats quite impressive, in a way

>>146650982
mcdonalds may lack any kind of fibre, but its not unhealthy, people order too many calories

>>146651073
Nah, McDonald's is literal garbage.

>>146650620
what did they say?

>>146650813
Jesus.

>>146650982
Man, I want one now.

>>146651073
Yeah but what does the average person think about mcdonalds? That's all that matters.

Besides stupid westerners think "Western food=bad, Eastern food=good"

I'm just surprised capitalism hasn't put their greasy paws all over those things.

>>146651073
Nutritionally the meals are pretty shitty, calories and macros aside.

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>>146650813

>>146651326
Muslim BBW milf + aryan child???

>>146651137
they said read the bloody guide

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Browsing some old stuff on sad panda today and I came across this.

Not every day you come across a ten year old japanese pornographic comic referencing an obscure video game based on a 20 year old american movie.

>First question:
>Who is the player character in the MSX game 'Goonies'?
>Well, who do you think it is?
>M- Mikey?
>It's Mikey, isn't it?

>>146651933
very cool

>>146650813
That is the same guy who told someone in one of his comments that kanji in words like 観る[見る] and 聴く[聞く] are not used in modern Japanese. Pretty lame for someone with a channel dedicated to teaching kanji that clearly hasn't read a single volume of manga in his life.

>>146651933
That's hilarious. Sadpanda link?

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>>146651933
reading mikey in kata..oh lordy

>>146647555
I'm pretty sure I've come across 解毒 before and just assumed it was obviously かいどく so didn't bother to look it up.

>>146651933
what is the context here?

度渡疲彼波

Fuck you Japan, why you make this shit so hard

>>146653433
Check out RTK.

>>146653433
yea dude looks real hard *makes wanking motions*

>>146653566

As if I would ever subject myself to such drivel.

>>146653661
This coming from the guy who's freaking out over basic kanji.

>>146653774
it's just an RTK shill falseflagging

>>146653774

Freaking out? The only one who seems to be freaking out here is you. I'm simply rightfully pointing out the flaws of this barbaric language. If you don't think those kanji look identical you're lying to yourself.

>>146653942
Text speak isn't allowed here but if it were LOL to this entire post.

>>146653942
couldnt you pick a better angle for your posting gimmick

>>146654034
爆笑

>you'll never be able to draw as fast as a native

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SbbEs9A304

命がなぜ続く

>>146654516
I am fully capable of filming myself drawing something and then speeding up the video

>>146654516
>tfw you picked a skill that'll be replaced by machines in 20 years instead of one that won't for at least 200

>>146654516
キルキルじゃないか笑

>>146654516
You know he spent an hour on that, right?

>get to level 3 on wanikani
>you have to pay
I tried anki but the core2k deck is kind of a pain to use since it has sounds and pictures. Also there isn't a way to tie anki on your phone to your computer right?

Any similar programs/sites to wanikani that are free?

>>146654848
Then delete the audio and pictures (audio might be good though), or download the version with no media if there is one.

AnkiDroid; press the sync button.

>>146654848
>since it has sounds and pictures
You don't have to download those

>there isn't a way to tie anki on your phone to your computer right?
I don't use anki on my phone but can't you just make an account and sync it with your PC?

>>146654848
You might be better served getting over your learning disability.

Sound is definitely a good thing and you can just remove the picture field and delete unused media

>>146654891
>>146654900
Oh I didn't know you could do that. I'll try it out then.

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>tfw slacking off instead of reading

>>146655399
It's okay as long as you're watching anime

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>>146655399

At what point do I have to start learning kanji?

>>146655475
As soon as you know kana.

>>146655475
tomorrow

>>146655475
It's best to start as soon as possible, right after you learn hiragana and katakana. After all, essentially everything actually written in Japanese, with the exception of NES games and books for very young children, uses kanji.

>>146654687
>>146654844
o-of course its sped up, i knew t-that

>>146655475
I dove headfirst into kanji once I knew most of the kana then some wise senpai here told me to study grammar and vocab instead and learn kanji on the side. There's a lot more to learning Japanese than being able to recognize chinese houses.

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おはようおにいちゃん

にくだんごふたついれて

きょうはとくべつにいそがしいの

>>146655399
i read that as jerking off but i guess thats the same shit right

>>146656395
Not really because you can jerk off and read Japanese at the same time.

>>146656326
なぜ

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I want to play this after I finish あけいろ怪奇譚

Is it a bad idea? Anyone knows how hard it is?

>>146656326
いもうとをにくだんごにするべ

>>146656590
日本語を勉強するべきだろ

Waiting for my wanikani reviews is suffering

Apparently it gets faster after a while and there will be less downtime

糞日本語ばっかが

>>146657334
酷い

>>146656533
What I've read of it wasn't too hard, just your regular VN language.
I dunno where's "subahibi is super hard" meme comes from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=coK4G4SwATs
Listening practise

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>>146657652
筈

>>146657334
文法っては何でしょ

>>146657743
様

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How long should it take the average person to reach proficiency level N5?

I've always looked at learning Japanese as insurmountable because of how large it is, but broken up into rough levels and proficiency, and it inspires me.

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>>146657507
I agree, I read a couple routes and it was just a generic yuri moege so I dropped it. No idea what all the hype is about.

私以外に正真正銘日本人いますか