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This jobber cant even use Observation Haki properly.
He should of have sense him
He also didn't sense Pedro on Zou
>Fight is over.
What happened? I think he won because asspull or someone stopped the fight.
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Gear Fourth will run out next chapter and Cracker will trip on something and lose
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>Luffyfags are so quiet now
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>yfw law comes out of nowhere and helps luffy win
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the cake will be ruined, big mom will rampage and attack germa 66.

DID CARROT CALL CHOPPER CH-ANIKI?!?!
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>>146586845
reminder that monet is still alive, and will join the strawhats when they set off for the moon.

i'm substituting for the absent monetfag
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so luffy needs a doctor, right? LIke all the muscle and tendons on one side of his arm were cut
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Observation not working right when someone is inside something else has been a thing since Luffy was in that giant snake. Or for a closer example, that rock guy fight when Zoro was trying to figure out where he was.
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>>146586845
BROPPER
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>every Paramecia from now on will use clones
Thanks Kagebunshin.
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>>146586592
Wax Wax Fruit does seem to be a better applicant for something like this. But then again, you can expect a Yonkou's commander to have full control of his DF, so it's not completely out of the question that he can compensate this fucking much.
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>"he totally one-shotted Cracker, guys, just look at his whited out eyes!"
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>Cracker goes to finish luffy
> trips over a rock and pass out from skinning his knee
This is the shit oda will pull
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>i actually enjoy more the weekly thread than reading the chapter
>mfw
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>>146587078
I could totally see him doing this like the troll he is
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>>146586845
Why do all the other D.s have more interesting stories?
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>Luffy will use another mode in gear 4
What would it be and for what purpose? What could it do that a rubber ball cant?
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>>146587147
It could PUNCH REALLY HARD
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>>146586845
is cracker a sweet one or saltine?
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>>146586952
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>>146587147
Awakened his fruit
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Why is he so cool
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>>146587262
when will brulee come out of her armor?
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>>146586845
luffy fags on suicide watch, he got rekt. and they were saying he could beat an admiral LOL.
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>>146587262
>inb4 his name is fake as well, and is really coldsteel- not cracker
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Nami will use the homies to help Luffy.
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>>146586952
>yfw it's actually Garp wearing a mask that saves Luffy
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>>146587451
You mean an armor made out of punching?
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>>146587319
Luffy doesn't stand a chance against an admiral. I doubt 4th Gear could take on Fujitora.
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>>146587262
His explanation of his fruit and 'final form' gimmick makes me wish it was saitama he was up against.
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Why couldn't it have been Zoro fighting Cracker?
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>>146587559
Who said Zoro won't fight him after?
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>>146587520
Luffy was kinda holding his own against Fuji with gear 2 after just waking up from a 3 day coma.

>>146587559
He probably will. I doubt Luffy's fight versus Cracker will be very decisive.
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>>146587262
>Why is he so cool
its the dickhair anon

Trust the dickhair
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>>146587389
That would be more embarrassing than just losing.
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>>146587609
I wouldn't say hold his own. Fuji wasn't taking things seriously & Doffy took 4th Gear to beat.
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>>146587649
Well, Fuji went there with his intention to capture Luffy.

I mean, it didn't look like he was fighting seriously, but why wouldn't he have?
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How strong are Ace & Blackbeard without DFs? I remember it was mentioned that both were pretty strong even without them.
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>>146587679
Because people don't go all out 100% of the time.
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>>146587679
Fuji is more fair about his style of Justice than Akainu. He had the balls to report that Luffy & the Strawhats beaten Doffy. The guy's got his doubts about Akainu.
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>>146587720
Blackbeard was strong enough to scar Shanks, and almost broke Ace' neck with a single punch.

Not sure when Ace got his fruit, so can't comment.
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>>146587679
I mean Fuji did something as incomprehensible as pushing back the birdcage when he could have just wiped the floor with Doffy. You never know what the blind old fool is up too.
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>>146586845
obviously luffy will just eat the biscuitmen
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>>146587147
It can complete the 720 degree 4th dimensional Dempsey Roll.
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>>146586845
How didn't he cut his arm completely?
This is bullshit
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I'm surprised there isn't a Milk-Milk fruit yet.
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>>146587827
I think Blackbeard's sniper said he thought that many Devil Fruit uses overrely on theirs but Ace's basic combat skills are capable enough that he seemingly deserves to be the 2nd Whitebeard commander.
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>>146587262
>naruto tier villain
>cool
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>>146588023
>pic related
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I feel like I'm enjoying this arc more than I'll enjoy Wano. The Charlotte Family is so bizarre and the Vinsmokes are a really cool twist for Sanji, and the premise of crashing a wedding is fun. Meanwhile Wano seems too typical Shonen for Oda and another Beat Up Everyone War arc that Oda seems to be increasingly fond of.
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>>146588009
Considering all of Blackbeard's crew are basically fodder like Xusasu Basasu I don't think it means much. Blackbeard's most promising member right now are Rainfag the Coldsteel and the giant. None of his original members had an inkling of competence other than the angelfag who has nothing to do with fighting as his competence.
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>>146587147
He will pull an Ippo and store more oxigen on his muscles to win the fight
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>>146588023
What does Naruto tier even mean?
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>>146588085
>Crocodile
>Not cool
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>>146588085
>>146588023
>tfw Doffy is ur favorite villain and he'll never be relevant again
Why must the good die young?
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>>146587262
Huge sword
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>>146588006
>drowns opponent in milk
>makes opponent sprout udders & drains all nutrients from body
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>>146588097
Same. I'm planning on taking a break during Wano. I'm not sure if I'll enjoy it one chapter at a time.
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>>146588006
>milk-milk fruit
what does it do, give lactating cowtits?
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>>146588101
It depends. That marksman could snipe across islands, Burgess was fodderized by Sabo but he seems to have some strength & somehow all of them can survive hits from Sengoku. Rainfag does appear to be one of the stronger ones.
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>>146588097
Wano is going to be another Dressrosa. Calling it.
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>>146588106
>Nami: COME ON LUFFY! RUBBER AND GUTS! REMEMBER! YOU'VE GOT PLENTY OF OXYGEN IN YOUR MUSCLES!
>Luffy: HOLY FUCK YOU'RE RIGHT! I CAN STORE BOUNDLESS AMOUNT OF OXYGEN IN MY MUSCLES! YOU'RE DONE FOR CRACKER!
>Cracker: FFUUUUUUCK HE'S GOT SO MUCH OXYGEN IN HIS MUSCLES! IT'S RIDICULOUS!
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>>146588229
>makes the opponent make milk
>drinking the milk gets you their power
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>>146587559

>Implying Zoro isn't inside Luffy

How new are you?
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>>146588106
>>146587986

ok ok we know you watch hajime no ippo, now stop.
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>>146588273
l-lewd
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>>146588229
>>146588152
Nah, it'd just be a milk version of the Wax-Wax Fruit, with big tits, good skin, and stronger bones as a side-effect the same way the Slip-Slip Fruit made Alvida slim.
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>>146587262
His armor is cooler. It's so like One Piece to have a no-nonsense old man knight with small legs and a huge body show up and slap their shit around, but in the end he was actually some Fairy Tail-tier fox-eyed twink with stupid hair. Wha- The grumpy, odd-shaped old man was just a puppet he was using as armor and he's actually a normal-looking faggot? Before 2005, I had never seen that before!

Someone should make one of those 4gaijin pictures with Cracker's reveal.
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Cracker is the son of Doflamingo and Big Mom
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>>146588231
Sengoku isn't impressive sadly. I mean he couldn't even get pass pre-TS Luffy's balloon. Imagine real Cracker swinging Pretzel at Luffy what would happen? Luffy, Mr. 3, and Ace would have been bisected like hot knife through butter.

Keep in mind Sengoku and Garp were in their fucking 70s during Marineford. I don't know why everyone hypes them up as gods when they are clearly declining like crazy and is part of the reason the marines are so worried about keeping the peace, since the old generation legends are all weakening like with Whitebeard.

It'd be a totally different story if Sengoku was 20 years younger though, and I doubt Xusasu could have stayed awake in that case. But having a title 'the Buddha' doesn't exactly scream powerful, rather smart or enlightened, meaning he's always been about brains not brawn. Shame in the world of One Piece, there's no such thing as real brains, just a different category of power levels. Even Yang Wenli's semicircle spam is more legit.
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>>146587317
Anon, that's a picture of a branch.
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>>146588136
>die young
Doffy was finished in chatper 790. That is not young, especially for someone introduced like 600 chapters earlier.

Anyway, Doffy was much cooler before the timeskip when he was just some play-by-his-own-rules slouch who would sit on tables. I was looking forward to him being an actual villain, but he just turned into yet another hunk of meat with an eight pack.
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>>146587020
>Carrot is now Chopper's little sister
That's cute af
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>>146588497
honestly, why were the marines not trying harder during the war?
the pirates obviously went all out
hell, kizaru could've done half the work if he didn't fuck around as much.

it's almost like the marines want the pirates around, so that they have an excuse to keep control and "protection" over settlements
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Since there is a Commander Cracker is there also a Commander Nigger?
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>>146588710
Not trying to start shit here, but is it any indication of crew-joining-likelihood to give a character cute nicknames? What non-crewmembers have given the crew nicknames like that?
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>>146588590
I knew he was going to be a letdown since late Punk Hazard. He's slowly degraded since Jaya from "one of the strongest guys in the setting," to "Kaidou's lackey."
>>146588745
Vergo
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>>146588136
crocodile is a tsundere, weaker doflamingo
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>>146588770

eyelashes
bon-chan
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>>146588770
vivi
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>>146588779
In Punk Hazard he seemed cool because he seemingly still had his old style, with the sitting on Smoker and all that.
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>>146588770
mr. bushido (vivi called zoro that)
vivi also temporarily joined the crew, then once the job was done, went back to her place
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I like Gomu Gomu no Kong Organ
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>>146588874
>Vivi
>not a crew member
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If Cracker is this much of a fricking monster that only Luffy can take him down then how the hell are they going to take down the other commanders and not to mention Big Mom herself?
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Mihawk and Perona got married
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>>146587933
In the eyes of the World Government, Doflamingo was untouchable. Fujitora can't just attack a Shichibukai 'cause they're being a dick; the World Government protects them from shit like that. Also, what's more likely to bring about change: a Marine apprehending a crooked Shichibukai or a group of random people including wanted pirates banding together to take out a crooked Shichibukai?

Their efforts put a spotlight on how broken the system is, which is what Fujitora wanted. So, instead of risking the wrath of the World Government by apprehending Doflamingo himself and creating a familiar headline that won't do much, he tried to help the civilians suffer the rebellion and then apologized to them that the World Government let this go on like it did, and purposely having it broadcast as well so the World Government can't cover it up.

It was the perfect plan.

Except now he's glued to Luffy's and Law's asses and not allowed to port in any Marine bases. Probably worth it.
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>>146588770
Mr.2
Caimie
Shakky
Ivankov
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>>146588980
Nami will end up winning Big Mom over, simple. Big Mom's dream isn't even One Piece or becoming Pirate King. All it takes is shrinking her down.
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>>146588729
>it's almost like the marines want the pirates around, so that they have an excuse to keep control and "protection" over settlements


Holy shit you literally figured it out all by yourself.

Give the man a bloody medal.
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>>146588901
>vivi also temporarily joined the crew, then once the job was done, went back to her place

I knew there will be a new Vivi eventually. Looks like it turned out to be Carrot.
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>>146588497
>I mean he couldn't even get pass pre-TS Luffy's balloon
The Gomu-Gomu no Mi's defence is best against regular blunt hits. Sengoku didn't use any of the special attacks he used against Blackbeard there. It seems like Sengoku didn't expect Luffy to grow bigger.
>Imagine real Cracker swinging Pretzel at Luffy what would happen?
Same thing as someone using a blunt attack on Buggy. Not even Mihawk could cut Buggy.
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>>146588980
Another timeskip, obviously
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>>146589159

Mihawk could cut Buggy effortlessly, its just that buggy is complerely immune to slicing attacks.
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>>146588729
>it's almost like the marines want the pirates around, so that they have an excuse to keep control and "protection" over settlements
So, Coby actually did the marines a favour interrupting Magma Brat? And Kong/the Gorosei wanted to make him the new fleet admiral because to the outside it would look like they were trying to get rid of the pirates.
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>>146588980
Big Mom is going to be an ally. Her and Luffy would be the best of friends with their appetites and her dream doesn't conflict with Luffy's own.
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>>146589044
Nami is big mom's daughter. Of course she will.
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>>146588497
Guys like Garp & Sengoku are still somewhat strong. Garp knocked down Marco just fine & it looked like that strike phased him more than Kizaru's beams.
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>>146587609
>after just waking up from a 3 day coma.
When isn't luffy recovering from a near death experience? In these shonen animes, the main characters are pretty much always on the verge of dying.
This whole "he's not fully recovered" argument is bullshit.
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>>146589159
There's no reason for Sengoku to hold out on that hit, absolutely none. He was fuming. The build up to it doesn't make sense for him to hold out either. All he needs is Haki provided he had a good amount to finish them right then and there.

You're using very flaky evidence that Sengoku was ever hot shit given how everyone he ever attacked at Marineford got up no problem afterwards, no different than saying Luffy one shot Cracker. Ranks don't mean shit otherwise the Tenryuubito would be invincible in combat.
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>>146588112
I guess he means the character is aesthetically reminicent of the ninja designs seen in Naruto
>Lean, sculpted frame
>is introduced squatting with a sword over his shoulder like characters like Kisame are often seen doing
>the whole shoulder armor+bare chest+trouser&boot combo

Frankly I don't really see it, but I kinda do. Most likely he's just bitching to fit in with the kewl kids
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>>146587317
Is she Hogback's daughter?
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>>146589208
>Buggy effortlessly, its just that buggy is complerely immune to slicing attacks
Exactly? I'm not sure what you're getting at.
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>>146589293
No shit an attack fused with haki versus an laser shooting into fire, which do you think hits an intangible body harder?

Did Marco stop moving for the rest of the war? Nope, got right back up afterwards off panel, no lasting damage what so ever.

They are strong in the sense that they aren't vice admiral fodder but they are still weak compared to the admirals.
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>>146589341
Even Lucci can hurt Luffy heavily at that point, and Lucci had no haki.
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>>146589329
>There's no reason for Sengoku to hold out on that hit, absolutely none
Then explain the regular punch without any of the special beam shit used against Blackbeard. He thought it would be enough to kill them & didn't know that Luffy can grow bigger.
>You're using very flaky evidence that Sengoku was ever hot shit given how everyone he ever attacked at Marineford got up no problem afterwards
You might as well say the same of Whitebeard & how the majority of the named characters he attacked got back up as well. Only one Vice Admiral I remember sorta went down. Everyone else just got back up.
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>>146588993
please no, Zorofags are already salty enough.
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>>146589419
>No shit an attack fused with haki versus an laser shooting into fire, which do you think hits an intangible body harder
>intangitble
I thought Marco was a Zoan.
>Did Marco stop moving for the rest of the war? Nope, got right back up afterwards off panel, no lasting damage what so ever
Given how Marco's schtick is explicitly healing & regeneration, sure.
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>>146589460
But Luffy was hurt by Sengoku's attack? He immediately spits out blood.
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>>146589471
it's the only explanation given the evidence so far
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>>146587262

>that hair
>his edgy face
>never bled before :DDDD
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>>146588980
Because power levels don't exist. Just like how all of CP9 were fricking monsters, yet the crew fought them all head to head and won.
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I like how Big Mom seems to have some respect for the Straw Hats and is somewhat disappointed they seemingly got beaten like wimps.
I hope they become allies
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>>146589588
>ruins
>cacti everywhere

I considered it to also possibly be their wedding, but c'mon, dude. There's no fucking way Perona would get married in a place like that. Even Mihawk would probably be against it.
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>>146589467
I do say the same about Whitebeard. Whitebeard is a fucking fossil and is weak as fuck compared to those in their prime. How many times must I post this? 3 times. Kizaru tanked Whitebeard 3 fucking times and no sold him despite giving Whitebeard all the time in the world to do whatever he wanted while Kizaru charged up his pew pew very very slowly.

>>146589535
He is a zoan. Except his beast is the mythical phoenix, you know the bird made of flames. Read it again and watch when Kizaru shoots him in bird mode, look at how the impact is dispersed. Then compare it to when Garp hits Marco in bird mode. Totally different.

>>146589558
Yeah exactly, that's it. The Fleet Admiral is merely at Rob Lucci's level, and to me that's perfectly fine cause he's fucking 75+ years old at that point and primarily has a desk job. Why wouldn't he be weak (relatively)? He's not Garp he doesn't get to sail around abusing the powers of middle management.
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>>146589329
>Sengoku throws a single punch, equivalent to Luffy using Gommu Gommu no Pistol, on Luffy's ultimate defensive technique, and not only severally injures Luffy, causing him to spit up blood and lose Gear 3rd, but also crack the entire execution tower
>Somehow this is "Not getting pass pre-TS Luffy balloon"
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>>146589718
Now imagine if Don Chinjao attacked them instead of his drill head. They'd be dead. Chinjao is a fucking jobber.
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>>146589613
Well, if Sanji doesn't marry Pudding, then Germa 66 don't mean shit to Big Mom. And since Capone is plotting against her, that's a plot they can foil to get her respect.

I'm not sure how it'll all go down, but Luffy and Big Mom aren't fighting. Luffy needed help from Law AND a 10-minute timeout to beat Doflamingo, a man who shits his pants when a Yonkou is mentioned. Yonkous are at least two arcs away.
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>>146589460
Reminds me, is there a reason why lucci had no haki or am i being a speed reader? He could have been much stronger. Was he dedicated to rokushiki or some asspull reason like that?
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>people implying Garp isn't admiral level
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>>146589696
>Whitebeard is a fucking fossil and is weak as fuck compared to those in their prime. How many times must I post this? 3 times. Kizaru tanked Whitebeard 3 fucking times
You mean Aokiji instead of Kizaru? I don't remember many times where Kizaru fought Whitebeard.
>The Fleet Admiral is merely at Rob Lucci's level
This is some bait here, even garp after all his time could still hurl giant cannonballs
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>>146588980
Brook is going to counter Big Mom's soul power. After that, it'll be basically a combination of Luffy and his allies assisting with taking down Big moma and her crew, much like Dressrosa. Luffy wouldnt have beaten Doflamingo without Law and the allies he gained.
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>>146587147
I can't even think of another power up for luffy.

G2 speeds up his blood, G3 his bones, and G4 his muscles.

Any ideas for a potential G5?
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>>146589815
Does BM want a D. inside her family?
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>>146589931
There is always the awakening
He will probably have another power-up apart from that though.
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>>146589950
Hasn't she had enough D.? :^)
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>>146586944
I admit I was one of those people who claimed Cracker got knocked unconscious.

It was wrong, but I think both sides of the discussion was wrong.
The Cracker side claimed the biscuit soldier was able to endure the Kong Gun, it wasn't. You were right, but for the wrong reasons.

Cracker hid inside some place in the big biscuit, and Luffy spent/wasted his energy on the biscuit. So he survived the Kong Gun through deceit.

If the real Cracker was hit by the Kong Gun in the same manner, it might still take him out in 1 blow.
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>>146589931
G5 is called "Fuck Man".

Luffy uses his haki'd dick as a lasso weapon.
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>>146589696
>Read it again and watch when Kizaru shoots him in bird mode, look at how the impact is dispersed
It went through him & instantly regenerated. His power was explicitly to be able to regenerate any hit taken. Similarly, when Kizaru lasered him after he got those cuffs placed on him, he only momentarily flinched.
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>>146589617
So...how did Big Mom get a soul all the way to the sun?
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>>146589927
You think Luffy and only a third of his crew, along with a couple minks, are going to take down an entire Yonkou's crew in her own fucking city?
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>>146589797
>Don Chinjao's strong attack vs Sengoku's regular punch
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>>146590133
You're forgetting jinbei, and the germa are going to have something to do with it, too. Likely some betrayal might happen or so. Then there's Big Momma's daughters, which all of them don't exactly like her. Also, if Luffy takes down Big Mom, he'll basically become the new emperor.
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>>146590019
>no fingernails
Eh.
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>>146590020
>If the real Cracker was hit by the Kong Gun in the same manner, it might still take him out in 1 blow.

I will agree with this only because Cracker happens to have a severe aversion to pain. A normal person of his strength wouldn't get one-shot by Kong Gun.

>Source: Dressrosa, that fight where everyone says Doflamingo got raped by G4 even though he survived all 10 minutes of it and Luffy had to be fucking rescued by fodder.
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>>146590123
It's probably a candy sun.

Alternatively, the planet of One Piece has multiple suns and some are smaller and closer.
>inb4 physics discussion about thermo-nuclear fusion or some nerd shit
This is One Piece.
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>>146589927
>Brook is going to counter Big Mom's soul power

And what will stop Big Mom from just stepping on him like an ant?
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>>146590118
I got the page right here, it looks like his power is to instantly regenerate shit. He did get torn to pieces, just getting filled with holes doesn't seem to bother him.
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>>146590319
His speed.
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>>146590315
You'd think Big Mom having control of the fucking sun would make her the most feared pirate in the world.
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>>146590357
This idiot legit thinks Brook can defeat Big Mom.
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>>146590279
Well, I said might, as in maybe. Because I think it's likely that he could survive a hit.

But if Oda made yet another last page of the chapter where the real Cracker is hit and shown with those unconscious eyes, I would put my money on him being unconscious.
Because this time there isn't any deceit.
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>>146589931
Rotates his fists for punches using the power of the golden rectangle
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>>146590404
Nah, just playing along here.

>>146590361
Maybe the sun ain't a big deal in One Piece. A sun that small and that close could probably be destroyed by a bunch of people in the world who are not even in the absolute top tier.

Alternatively, she only uses the sun to goof around so no one cares.

Alternatively, it is a candy sun.
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>>146590404
Brook isnt going to defeat her, but he's going to make all her soul subjects worthless by overriding her control over them with his music, which is tied to his own soul power. His power and hers being similar, along with the coincidence of his soul music, and with the fact he is going on the infiltration mission are key signs that he's going to be a key component in all of this.
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>>146590421
>Because this time there isn't any deceit.
Nah, this cracker is actually the armor of an even smaller Cracker who has the ability to create mini biscuits to form larger biscuits.
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>>146590463
>candy sun
I suddenly find myself wondering about certain legends on how solar eclipses were caused by dragons swallowing the sun.
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>>146589411
>He protected Oden before that
Retainer doesn't mean elite bodyguard. It means loyal member of a household, that can include the menial servants.
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>>146590520
Well, that dragon was only the son of Dragon, but the part about him swallowing the sun will turn out true.

Nothing of that island will remain.
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Nami will make it rain, causing Cracker's biscuits to get soggy.
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>>146586845
Water luffy will make an appearance and soggy biscuit cracker will get BTFO SCREEN CAP THIS
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>>146590575
>>146590582
Fight is over already speed readers.
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>>146590516
I would lose respect to Oda if he did that.
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>The Bisu Bisu no Mi may be based on a Japanese children's song called "Magical Pocket", which goes:
"There is one biscuit in a jacket pocket
By tapping on the pocket, it becomes two biscuits
By tapping again it becomes three biscuits
By tapping more and more it becomes many biscuits"

Why didn't anyone figure it out last week?
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>>146590123
it's not the real sun obviously

there's several of them in totto land. we saw her destroy one and it caused an explosion so maybe they're just spheres full of glowing/explosive substance
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>>146590575
How many times has the standard Devil Fruit weakness of being unable to swim come into play? For all we know, maybe Jimbe can beat certain DF users through drowing them.
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>>146590657
Yes, anon, as you are clearly able to tell with your human interaction abilities, I was making a joke. Good job, anon!
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>>146590676
We just saw Chopper and Brook fall in the water back on Zou, speed reader.
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>>146589931
He might use his haki to compress the air in his muscles/bones even more, to the point where he looks rather normal again. That way he could throw punches by lowering his haki on his arm and let the pressure do the propelling. Kinds like G4 right now, just stronger and faster. The pressure might even cause his arms to catch on fire. And by lowering the haki on his hand he could cause an ursus shok like rapid expansion when he hits an enemy.
Thoughts?
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>>146590660
Because we're not elevens.
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Ok /a/, who is the stronger D.?
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>>146589931
>and G4 his muscles.

That's not how G4 works you fucking idiot.
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>>146590813
rouge
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>>146590825
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>>146590793
Not likely because

>The gear 4 aesthetic of Luffy will most likely never change
>I'd assume Oda would use a completely different idea for a gear 5 instead of a "better 4"
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>>146589613
this. I think she was kind of looking forward to the patented Strawhat brnd of carnage that shortly follows their arrival on an island. Maybe she was hoping to use them as an example to the rest of their generation by thoroughly trouncing them at their best. Now...now it seems all she has to look forward to is the wedding she has planned. She prolly misses the days before she was one of the Four Kings, when the decks weren't so stacked in her favor
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>>146589931
Nervous system?
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>>146587002
Eh, the power of friendship will have him fixed right up in 3-4 chapters, depending on how long the plot wishes it.
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>>146587262
> people are all over Cracker's new form
> he looks like a generic faggot you would see in Fairy Tail
> Cracker's previous design actually fit the One Piece manga and looked like a veteran pirate

it's no surprise that this manga is turning to shit when his audience is made of teens who've been breeding with shit mangas like fairy tail
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>>146590800
What?
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>>146591264
lurk more
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>>146591230
never read FT, I'm sorry. Maybe that's why I like him? I'm not used to evil looking characters
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>>146590660
the song reference was brought up though
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>>146591230
Oda changed his design because he knew he fucked up and that he needed to make a more edgy and cool design for hi pre-teens readers.
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>>146590813
Deez nutz boooiiii!!!
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>>146590825
Spee D. Reader detected.

You know what to do, pally wally anon virgin san
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>>146591230
> he looks like a generic faggot you would see in Fairy Tail

But half of FT's designs are ripped from one piece.
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>>146590626
they could still be fighting in the morning, idiot
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>>146589931
Heart. He'll reinforce it with Haki and go G2 x5, sending blood rushing at full force towards limbs that need an extra oomph
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It's strange, Naruto and Bleach end and then One Piece threads become almost unreadable. Really fires up my neurons.
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>>146589931
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>>146591557
really provokes critical internal dialogues, doesn't it?
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>>146591264
A hint
Code Geass
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>>146591557
>>146591663
Don't pollute OP threads with this /pol/ diarrhea
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>>146590752
and Jack
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>>146591230
I don't care muh about both of the designs, but he does look more generic now, seems like a mix of bellamy post-ts and doffy

>>146591445
Not him but with G4 being time limited I think its pretty unlikely to be that way, I think that either Luffy won or he didn't stand a chance and fled.
Luffy losing would require some asspull to save him, I think they already have their hands full with saving Sanji
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>>146591426
FT's art shifted from oda-lite in like 2010 desu
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>>146591330
Half the characters nowadays look like Fairy Tail characters, maybe just 'cause Oda's getting older and his artstyle is becoming gradually more and more generic-looking and I guess he over-characterizes as a way of compensating, which reminds a lot of people of Mashima who has just naturally always done that.

I wouldn't call him evil-looking, though. He just has fox-eyes.
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>>146590342
Fuck is it with all the exposition dialogue?
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>the Strawhat Grand Fleet
vs
>Germa 66

Which would you choose if you were Big Mom?
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>>146591850
Shipping is cancer, yes.
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>>146591775
this post really makes me want to engage in thought provoking self reflection
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>>146586845
minks probably have natural zetsu that allows them to avoid being seen with observation haki

luffy doesn't have a great one anyway
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>>146591557
>>146591663
>>146591962
kaaaaankeeer
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>>146591930
It was the beginning of the battle and the two sides were measuring their dicks.

>>146591395
Weevil.
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>>146591856
>>146591902
>early fairy tail art is blatantly ripping off one piece
>late one piece art is ripping off fairy tail
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>>146590793
Sounds good, it would also serve as a lightning fast attack form, with higher vulnerability to balance out the speed increase (since he's using lowered haki)
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>>146591902
he looks a bit like Aladdins wife...I think its the eyes. He'd have looked good with freckles too, except I wouldnt be able to keep the Southern twang out of his voice when I'm reading his speech bubbles if he had them. Bad enough his superpower's got to do with biscuits

now I want warm biscuits and gravy. Damn it
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>>146589931

>AWAKENING SON

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Nh0Fvoe9k
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>>146592018
really makes me ponder a while longer tbbqh with you famalam
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>>146592050
Honestly, I thought Oda was doing it intentionally. There were a lot of details in Dressrosa that sounded like Oda was possibly calling out Mashima, and I know Mashima retorted by having pirates show up in Fairy Tail and calling the heroes out on stealing from them.

It made me think: at what point does parody just become you making the same follies? Then Dressrosa lasted another lifetime and I didn't care anymore, I just wanted it to end.
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In retrospect, its kind of disappointing how Doflamingo was barely a match for Gear 4th Luffy yet some Yonko's scrub can put up a decent fight (ok top 4 commanders but still..)
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When did Nami stop being cute?
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>>146591902
Worry not, I'm sure Wano and Kaido's crew will be full of goofy characters, OP style; just look at Kanjuuro, the Ninja guy or Jack's underlings
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>>146592307
Doflamingo's insides were fucked up by Law.
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>>146591930
It was Marco's first fight. Much of the initial Marineford arc was just showing off for both sides.
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>>146592277
>having pirates show up in Fairy Tail and calling the heroes out on stealing from them.

I have read all of Fairy Tail and I don't remember this at all.
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Reminder that Marguerite washed Luffy topless
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>>146588005

Not hawkeye level I guess. Haki sword and on his arm, that's a good quarter of the way through his arm.

Interesting question for CoO here as well.

Is this a fight between two equal CoO people basically nullifying each others attempts at precog? Or is Luffy just not using it for some stupid reason?
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>>146592307
You do know Luffy failed to beat him at first, even with Law's help, and other characters came in and tanked Doflamingo for 10 minutes while he recovered, right?

Why are people just glossing over this?
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>>146592356
>this meme again
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>>146592050
I wouldn't say that. But I would say that Oda's artstyle has changed in that the characters aren't as skinny or long-legged as they once were. Fairy Tail's characters nowadays have physical proportions that resemble normal people (the biggest exaggeration is that 90% of the girls are /thicc/) whereas Oda has shifted towards normal proportions in some of the main crew (Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Sanji) but still keeps many of the wonderfully outlandish proportions similar to that in early OP
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>>146592314
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>>146589613
She looks like the type to get bored and maybe wants to have fun. The strawhats causing a commotion will amuse her.
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>>146592403
He's probably talking about Brandish and the island and the naval ships, which isn't an analogy but would seem somewhat like it if you just looked at the pictures in the chapter
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>>146592314
Around thriller bark
>>146592417
Niice
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When did this whole fairy tale meme start?
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>>146590279
Doflamingo only survived as long as he did because Oda makes Luffy fuck around for 10 minutes just so he can use a bigger Kong Gun.

Luffy literally used the equivalent of Kong Gatling this chapter on Cracker to no avail. I doubt Doflamingo could do that.


I mean, I agree Cracker could easily lose due to the pain aversion cop-out but still.
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>>146591162

Remember this is the guy who has been impaled a few times, had a snack and got right the fuck back to it. Injuries in OP are often meaningless unless narrator or 'doctor' talks about it.
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>>146592417
Best girl
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>Gear 4 is already 1 1/2 years old

WHERE DID THE TIME GO?
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>>146592570
A handful of people said to have liked the real Cracker's desing and a little autist got triggered for unknow reasons, saying they were FT fags
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>>146591100
>yfw Luffy stretches his brain all throughout his body for instant reaction times instead of just nerves
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>>146592403
>I have read all of Fairy Tail

Holy shit. You must be some sort of demigod. I got to the parallel dimension arc and I just couldn't. Every arc ended with someone showing up and just shutting everything down. Half the characters were obvious One Piece rip-offs, but without character or interesting abilities. There were lots of good gags, until I realized I had heard them all before also in One Piece. There's that one guy who is somehow half the characters. Jesus, I'm getting PTSD just thinking about it.

MS made a blog post about it, I think, so maybe you can find out what I'm talking about there. I didn't actually read that arc, just people were talking about it.

>>146592449
Precognition in a fight is not much different than speed. Someone could have better precognition than someone else, but be slower, and thus not capable of reacting like you'd expect of someone with such ability; conversely, someone who's faster with little to no precognition might look like they have it due to sheer reflexes. When the two fight, it becomes splitting hairs which is which nine out of ten times.
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>>146592314
Chapter 1
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>>146592595
Oda's breaks. The pacing's actually been pretty good (by One Piece standards) since Doffy got KO'd, aside from maybe the forest.
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>>146592595
What? That's bullshit.
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>character looks goofy:
waaaah im tired of this shit designs waaah, i cant take this character seriusly waaah

>character looks cool:
waaaah oda has lost his touch and sold himself to pander the edgy teenagers, waaah all the characters must be goofy and wacky and if you dont like it you are not a true one piece fan waaaah.

kill yourselves faggots
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>>146588023
>Judging the quality of a villain with only two manga chapters.
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>>146591940
SHGF has the remaining warriors of Elbaf right?
I'm going with the side that has the giants, plus the Happo Navy/Orlumbus' fleet also has a lot of bodies to contribute to a potential war effort.
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>>146592766
He's not excatly right, i checked it and Gear 4 was introduced on on April 23 2015
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>>146590931

4 is kind of a batter 2 as it is. Minor down side, but most of it's positives. We've hit the limit of body parts to augment and we're at the point where it's just pile it all together at once for OHKO/last ditch. So I'd guess we'll have a 4+3 type deal down the road that will just knock Luffy out (and preferably, cause him some lasting harm). He's fundamentally a 'hit harder and faster' fighter, not much room to go from here.
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>>146592595
do you remember where you were when you read this, /a/?
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>>146592868
on /a/ shitposting
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>>146589251
>ftw big mom want a son of luffy
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>>146592701

Reasonable way to see it, but in a world with precog, farsight etc. The viewer needs to know when those kinds of things are going on. A way to demonstrate that someone is trying their best to acknowledge (precog) what's coming, but simply unable to keep pace. It's reasonable that anyone whose spent their light fighting can read the signs of motion in a persons body before they execute the move.

As the series goes on you'll be wondering why characters are not reacting or noticing things in time. We saw ussop basically see through walls demonstrating the 'locate someone on island' skill from enel and monster trio after TS. Why isn't this spammed? Does it require having met the individual to know what to look for? Is this why during a fight you can really only precog against the opponent in-front of you? And only if they're slow enough.
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>post yfw you turned the page and saw this motherfucker
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>>146591660

We've been having the texture/composition change argument for years. Have we ever seen that happen without the haki catalyst? All thse vulcanization type ideas. Is he too stupid to understand 'rubber' takes many forms? Many other paramecia have multiple state and composition changes.

Would it be too late in the series to have him learn this and start using it. It's a huge volume of utility there, if in the hands of a smarter character.
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>>146593089
How did shanks even stop him
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>>146589931
Maybe he'll use every Gear at once for G5. Or uses the same logic of Gear 2nd, but with the air in his muscles and the blood in his veins, so he's got, like, super heated air racing through his whole body
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>>146591940
Germa 66 has better technology and SGF didn't exists until a few weeks ago

Which commander marries Big Moms daughter when this arc is over and why is it probably Orlumbus?
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>>146593260
He didn't, he just held him off till he got tired of fighting.
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>>146593089
>Hey cool Urouge!
>Hey cool Kid/Apoo alliance!
>suddenly, 40 FAILED EXECUTIONS

Arguably one of the most impressive reveals in the series so far.
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>>146593059
I don't think you're supposed to think about it like it's a D&D spell, anon. Haki was added to give some internal logic as to how top tiers are able to fight each other without everything just being giant blurs and nuclear explosions.

>Oda: This guy will be so fast! He'll be, like, able to move at the speed of light!
>Oda: Hmm. If someone moves that quickly, doesn't that mean no one - not even other top tier fighters - can react to them?
>Oda: Maybe they can SEE faster! No. No, that's stupid.
>Oda: Maybe they can see things right before they happen?
>Oda: ...That works. Cool. Now, how to bypass Logias...

Obviously CoO isn't just precognition, it's also the ability to "hear" people. It's really two different techniques, just like CoA is separated into hardening and Devil Fruit-bitch slapping. It's possible the ability to "hear" people is something you can actively enhance, but the precognition looks to be an instinctual sense and not something you "use," but something you "have."
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>>146590020
>So he survived the Kong Gun through deceit.
Not really. Luffy's strongest attack wasn't even able of one-shotting Cracker's armor, which he himself stated is something he can create with just a finger.
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>>146593089
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>>146589870
Oda haven't invented Haki when Ennies Lobby happened.
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>>146586999
>trips
You're doing a good job. Though, I believe she'll join up well before the second timeskip.
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>>146593260
Told him he heard of a good way to die.
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>>146588729

I also agree part of it's basically just a gigantic protection racket and desire to not loose power. Like on the kizaru note, he could have teleported around the battlefield and shot lazers in everyone head. We know he can pierce bodies, we know he can move at speeds that most non officer/ranked crew members simply cannot respond to. He could have whittled the numbers down by 90%, then finished off what's left in tandem with akainu.

If you view it from the 'don't kill everyone, we still need many alive' perspective it works. But it's not like killing off just WBs friends would have ruined the need for the protection racket, so this doesn't work. So you're really just left with a character who is powerful enough to end most fights on their own (he even got the go ahead to go fight, they made no explicit commands NOT to kill all the pirates) and doesn't because bad writing.
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>>146593561
Chapter 1.
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>>146589931

G5 manipulating his whole buddy like Jake from Adventure Time. Like growing more limbs.
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>>146593089
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The fuck with all of these 'jobber' posts?
Just because she/he is lost in a fight doesn't mean she/he is a jobber.
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>>146593587
Forgot pic.
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>>146589931
Gear 5 sends all the blood to his brain allowing him to see everything as if it was happening in slow motion
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>>146593637
Meme shitposters.
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>>146593671
you know i've thought of this, but then there'd really be no excuse for any bullshit, and oda has to make luffy job at least a little
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Can we please the word "jobber" filtered? These stupid faggots have run it into the ground.
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>>146593561
>>146593606
That's BS.

Haki was really invented in Jaya, as Blackbeard says it, and then Skypeia introduces Mantra which is CoO.

When Oda was trying to figure out how Luffy would beat Crocodile, he probably started to wonder if it'd be too convoluted to have people all running around, documenting and carrying weapons in the further seas to counter Logia intangibility, and he probably thought it would be lame if everyone had a weapon like Smoker's, like suddenly Zoro and Sanji need to go invest in seastone from someone or something. So he probably thought he'd just add an "energy" system at some point to write it all off.
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>>146593731
Ironic jobber posting is still jobber posting ;^)
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Why hasn't luffy tried combining gears?
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>>146593799

King Kong Gun looks like Gear 3 + 4.
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>>146593799
You mean like in Thriller Bark, the arc after he invented them?
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>>146593799
Isn't that KKG? Its basically Gigant Pistol in Gear 4
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>>146591445
Haha. Luffy can't last in g4 so fuck off. Fight is definitely over.
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I feel like it's worth remembering that Biscuit is the kind of opponent that Zoro would have peeled off Luffy. Swordsman are not really his forte opponent.
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>>146593499
Just because he can create something powerful with his Paramecia, it doesn't mean his physical condition is anywhere near Luffy or Doffy's level.

What is wrong with saying Luffy was deceived? It's the truth.
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Craker has to be the best design in years, I can only think of him, Jack and Caesar after the time skip
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>>146593606
>>146593787
Haki as we know it doesn't existed until Sabaody-arc, Shanks stare and mantra was just re-conected to be haki.
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>>146590813
Con D. oriano
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>>146593897

That's bs. I don't undersrand why people are saying that the fight is over. Luffy has still plenty of time in G4 by Dressrosa standard and maybe even more. Oda just has to say that Luffy was tired against Doflamingo and voilà, one hour long G4.
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So Garp is going to die saving Luffy from Akainu right?
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>>146593900
Bladed weapons in general, even Krieg gave him a bit of trouble until he broke his 'splosion spear. Same with Arlong's shark saw.
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>>146592450

>10 minutes

Doffy should have won. Cage should have closed faster after he fended off Luffy, get to high ground and call it in. Both had been fighting all day, Law against Doffy and Luffy at the coliseum.

Just battle tactics in this series tend to not matter because each arc has a conclusion it needs to reach even if multiple options are open for characters to take.
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>>146594004

No, Sabo will kick his ass.
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>>146593799
He does it all the time.
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>>146594057
I hope Sabo is dead, I really hate that faggot
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>implying Luffy didn't off panel Cracker with some super powerful secret move
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>>146594003
>Oda just has to say
But Oda is not stupid like you are.
Just accept it Luffyfag
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>>146593897
>turns off G4
>fights without it
>lasts til morning
inb4 'b-but he wouldn't last without g4', Crack is obviously weaker without his armor and the armors without him inside are even more weak
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Oh my god, these Water 7 fillers are terrible.
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>>146593634
Yes please. Oda could explain it off as Luffy trying to imitate cracker
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>>146594175

So if i understand fighting all day against powerfull warriors in the coliseum, running around everwhere, fighting Bellamy. All of that din't drain Luffy's stamina and haki?
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>>146594211
>last till morning
Hey there speed reader. Let explain something to you.
It was said the vinsmokes were going to arrive at noon the next day.(12:00). But as we can see this chapter they were late so they probably arrived like at 3:00 pm.
It's been almost 24 hours if not 24 hours faggot.
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>>146594283
>no liking zoro babysitter
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>>146593886
When will we see king Kong gun plus gear 2nd
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>>146594344
Nope, if that was the case Luffy would have mentioned it.
If Oda thought about it that way he would have made Luffy say that. He obviously did not
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>>146594350

You are just dumb. Oda could show the end of the fight next chapter. He doesn't need to show everything in correct order.
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>>146593977

CoO aka mantra, skypiea.
CoC, Chapter 1, Shanks meeting WB, Luffy KOing the bull.
CoA, meeting Garp, maybe it's what Rayleigh used to disarm the bombs, certainly seen that arc.

I would say 2/3 powers were seen early on. Why we never saw more CoO use until TS is questionable. CoA was certainly the 'oh fuck logai are OP' problem. Seastone was meant to be really rare, controlled heavily by WG. Then we find out there's heaps of that shit on sky island. Yet the crew didn't collect any, they really should have made cuffs, a jail, some jutes etc.
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>>146594350
>the next MORNING
>GOOD MORNING mama
who's the speed reader, faggot?
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>>146593634
>buddy
body.
fuck... I should go to sleep.
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>>146594484

Eating build up Luffy's stamina it has been shown a lot of times. He could just eat random shit on the island and continue fighting in G4.
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>>146594484
Luffy is not a coward that hides behind such petty excuses
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>>146594505
>Then we find out there's heaps of that shit on sky island.
I don't remember this. What chapter?
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>>146594490
>He showed me facts so I will call him dumb. I don't know what to say
Are you really that butthurt? Sure Oda could show it next chapter but it would be a flashback.
I know you Luffyfags are all underage but Jesus don't make it so obvious
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>>146586845
Luffy won because he's way stronger. Cracker got a hit because Luffy is overconfident.
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>>146594147
>next chapter starts with nami carrying a completely flattened out luffy
>"you can't use that anymore if this is what happens luffy!"
>"whatever, it worked right? I'm going to be like this for a little while nami so protect me."

Now what would g5 do?
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>>146594613

Don't recall, their fucking skates are made of seastone. Something, something volcanic material + clouds = seastone. The jist of it was that sky islanders had access to seastone and the ability to cut and shape it.
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>>146594631

I'm not even the same guy. Yeah it would be a flashback and? He did it a lot of times. We saw everything Sanji and the rest of the crew did on zou in a flashback.
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>>146588023
This.
It was lame as fuck, even for Oda's standards.
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>>146594702
This is not fairy tail fuck off faggot.
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Nobody is talking about Shanks's wedding?
Really?
No-fucking-body??
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>>146594912
Shanks is at a wedding. It doesn't say it is Shank's wedding.
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>tfw shanks married hancock
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>>146594936
Oh, right. Sorry, I immediately thought it was Shanks's. You know, because Makino's child and all. But it's Oda, so I should rather expect the unexpected.
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>>146594613

Found it, 240.
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>>146594912
There's nothing to talk about, he married Mihawk so faggots stop discussing who of the two would win on a fight

So, which one do you guys think is top and who is bottom?
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>>146593929
He was deceived but it doesn't really matter. It's not like Cracker would lose against Luffy without the element of surprise.
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>>146595153

What the fuck guys, the fight is not over, Luffy din't lose yet. Maybe in current time in the universe of One Piece but not for us reader...
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Imagine Cracker at Marineford, these biscuits clones are so strong it takes Ge4 power to destroy them and even then they were pushing Luffy back.
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>>146595239

Vegapunk is a faggot with his pacifista.
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>>146595239
Power scaling is a bitch, even One Piece isn't immune to it. Mind you Marineford was all the top dudes just fucking around basically.
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>>146595223
>It takes all of Luffy to defeat a single one of Cracker's armors that he can infinitely create.
>Has a chance of winning.
The only positive realistic outcome for Luffy if he somehow managed to run away, possibly with Chopper's help with the mirrors or something.
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>you will never see Kizaru get serious and go all out in a fight

Not even Blackbeard could stand against him.
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>>146594912
It's not Shanks, he's a cheerful libidoless idiot like Luffy.
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>>146595309
Gee, I wonder who could be behind this post.
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What asspull ability/technique will Luffy pull to beat Big Mom, now that he's already used his "ultimate" against her mere commander?
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>>146595472

Cracker is out of his armor, trying to hit on Luffy... A couple of good hits on him and it's done. What the fuck are you guys on seriously...
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>>146595360
Marineford was a clusterfuck. All the big dudes just stood at one end and basically did fuck all while luffy just ran down the middle.
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OK luffy is gonna eat the soldiers
OR cracker will just stub his toe after nami does a sneak attack
OR cracker gets a message from mom to do something else and leaves luffy in a near death state
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>>146595599
Who will protect his smile?
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Is this order correct?

1 Yonkou >> 1 Admiral >> Yonkou Commander ≥ Luffy > 1 Shichibukai > Other Supernovas
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>>146595622
They aren't going to actually fight Big Mom. They'll just negotiate with her.

The real bosses are going to be Germa
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I hope this guy will shit on zoro
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>>146595633
And yet Cracker seems so concerned over his current predicament. So much that he even attacked Luffy head on with his real body.
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>>146595070
Shanks would ask to be top and Mihawk would never fight him.

>>146593977
Chapter 233: Whitebeard and Shanks's meeting is set up. This meeting doesn't take place until after Enies Lobby, but is when Shanks knocks out all the mooks in Whitebeard's crew, and he complains about him using his "haki" so freely.

Chapter 234: Blackbeard remarks that he's surprised Luffy has such a high bounty when his, you guess it, "haki" is so weak.

Chapter 235: The Straw Hats ride the Knock-Up Stream to Skypeia, which is a place full of people with Mantra.

But nah, he made it up 5 years later.
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>>146595705
Same, it would be hilarious.
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>>146595662
It's not so linear. Buggy's below everyone there, Mihawk was a rival of Shanks, etc.
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>>146595718

Yeah the opponent is not afraid of Luffy that must mean he will beat Luffy....
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>>146595778
His lack of fear shows that losing his armor is not a big deal. He's just amused over the situation.
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>>146595622
Remember when he used his Ultimate to curbstomp Blueno in the first round of Enies Lobby? Or after that when he used his EVEN MORE ULTIMATE to open a door a couple chapters later?
He's always got an ace-kun up his sleeve in these situations.
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Was Red Hawk an asspull?
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>>146595829

He's an overconfident bad guy like there's by dozens troughout the manga. Oda is not gonna make Luffy lose against a commander.
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>>146595662
I'd agree except for two things.

1. Why the double arrows? They're all near each other in power. Akainu tore off Whitebeard's fucking face, and Marco and Jozu only lost when they got distracted and ganged up on. There's not giant gaps between them.

2. "Shichibukai" is not a tier. Mihawk is probably Admiral level, Doflamingo maybe Yonkou Commander level, most of the others are right above Vice Admiral with Old Man Garp and Old Man Sengoku.
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>>146595835
And remember when he didn't use his ultimate to curbstomp Magellan? Or when he didn't use his EVEN MORE ULTIMATE to save Ace?
Luffy doesn't need to win against BM's crew. It would be absurd if he won against a Yonko with just a few weak members of his crew + 2 minks. Germa are going to be the main villains, and this is the equivalent of Water 7.
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>>146595894
I'd like it better if it wasn't just Diable Jambe but with no actual friction involved.
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>>146595992
Mihawk is clearly Yonko level if he's on par with Shanks, who was perfectly capable of matching Kaidou.
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>>146595622
Who knows, maybe they really WILL escape without getting into a huge scrap against Big Mom.
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>>146596059

Luffy is not gonna lose against a commander after a two year timeskip... Urouge beat one of them but Luffy is gonna lose against Cracker?
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>>146596059
True, I'll admit I was moreso thinking about all the people saying Luffy's jobbing to Cracker.
He's gonna Python Culverin that weirdo in the back of the skull and that'll likely be it.
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>>146595894
It might be easier to ask what ISN'T an asspull at this point.
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>>146596108
On par with Shanks in swordplay 10 years ago. Things change.
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>>146595992
Whitebeard was old and his health was failing. He was probably the weakest of the Yonkou by that point.
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>>146596108
>how to beat mihawk
>fight with anything but a sword
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>>146593886
>>146593858
It's just bigger Gear 4th. He inflates his arm more.
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>>146588436

lul
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Luffy is going to davy back fight big mom and take Jinbe, sanji and caesar from her. Screen shot this post I'm one of Odas assistants.
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>>146596108
Except Mihawk said he's not interested in fighting a cripple and Shanks lost his arm 12 years ago while hanging out in East Blue.

I think Mihawk's strong, too, but it's hard to call him Yonkou level. He seemed disappointed in himself when he tried to cut Whitebeard and Jozu deflected it. Then got tied up with Vista.

If he's Yonkou level, he has not shown it, at all.
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>>146587262
I think both formes are really cool

Also it's a testament to how strong he is that not even the government knows what he really looks like since they couldn't break his armor
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>>146596216
You could say the same of Shanks then. I guess Kaidou isn't hot shit after all.

>>146596199
If he lost interest in dueling him because he lost an arm that implies that he's weaker now. And even if he wasn't, he's probably on the same level.
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Where is Sora gonna fit into the Sanji family drama?
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>>146596300
>If he's Yonkou level, he has not shown it, at all.
Casually cutting an iceberg is not a smaller feat to what the Yonkou have done.
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We Are! > Kokoro no Chizu > We Go! > Fight Together > Hard Knock Days > Brand New World = Wake Up! > Bon Voyage > Jungle P > Share the World > Hands Up > Hikari e > Power Gap > Believe > We Can > Kaze wo Sagashite > Crazy Rainbow > One Day
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>>146596408

Not seen shit yet for Big Mom, Shanks and Kaidou. Black Beard was not Yonkou level yet and White Beard could "destroy the world". What he did with the iceberg was basically Zorro/Law tier.
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>>146596108
That's like saying that Sanji is Zoro level because of their occasional skirmishes
Mihawk is surely the strongest warlord but he's not on the level of an Admiral/Yonko
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>>146596408
One Piece character are superhuman. What someone does to a mundane object is meaningless. It's also a feat of one aspect of their fighting prowess, which is made up of tons of different factors. He could cut diamond; he could split space and time. That's cool! And meaningless for this discussion.

He's also getting killed by Shiliew so it doesn't matter.
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So, is Moriah going to be /fit/ when he shows up again or is he going to be fatter than ever
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>>146595239
NO NO NO NO AND NO

fuckers let me explain you, the original armor cracker had is the one he used haki on and thats the reason it was so strong that luffy went G4, id he could create a million clones like he says he can indeed would be a great force but he could not infuse with haki them by no means, and im pretty sure cracker cant control that many armors, the faggot is lying
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>>146596567

How cool would it be if Shilliew cut the arm of Mihawk and Zoro tell him that he's not a worthy opponent anymore?
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>>146595622
Gear 0
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>>146596408
Anon, Chinjao could split an iceberg.
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>>146596594
>He is lying
Hahaha keep thinking that buddy
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>>146596646

A legendary strong iceberg.
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>>146596589
Didn't Doffy kill him after Marineford, freeing up his warlord status for Buggy?
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>>146596626
Zoro already told him that when he beat Mihawk. Then the faggot attacked Zoro and stabbed his eye with that sneak-knife.
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Typical of crackers to deceitfully hide behind something really. The government knows his real face but they won't show it because of white privilege.
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>>146596731
Is this the legendary Spee D. Reader I've heard of?

>>146596626
That'd be funny, except Zoro is technically a cripple, too. Or is he?
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>>146596731

Blin D. Reader
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If Cracker armor is actually made of biscuits why Luffy doesn't just eat it? like he can easly eat all the clones.
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>>146596776
>>146596794
Okay just making sure, I'll admit I tend to miss things like that sometimes.
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>>146596731
He was saved by the invisible man
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>>146596672
yeah he sure can create and manipulate infinite amounts of clones.
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>>146595705
If Cracker's power is based on a nursery rhyme, could it be Bobbin's is, too?

>Wind the bobbin up,
>Wind the bobbin up,
>Pull, pull, clap, clap, clap.
>Wind it back again,
>Wind it back again,
>Pull, pull, clap, clap, clap,
>Point to the ceiling,
>Point to the floor,
>Point to the window,
>Point to the door,
>Clap your hands together, 1, 2, 3,
>Do a roly-poly, put your hands upon your knee.
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>>146596646
Prime Chinjao was a decent rival for prime Garp and his strongest move was as good as a casual slash from Mihawk. Sounds about right.
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>>146596929
I think he means he can always replace them. Sure he can't manipulate an infinite amount at the same time but he doesn't have a set limit that he can create.
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>>146592417
But, why?
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>>146592815
What's the point of having huge ass fleets in wan piss when a single overpowered character can demolish literally thousands of fodder?
>Luffy in Enies Lobby
>Injured whitebeard in marineford
>Akainu vs all the pirates all at once

Keep in mind you have to feed, clothe, and arm these useless fodder that do 0 damage to any hakied important character.

Luffy understands the uselessness of fodder which is why he roams with a small efficient crew.
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>>146597115
Why question it?
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>>146597130
honestly luffy is the biggest faggot copycat out there
>shanks was a great pirate ill be one too!
>aces dad was pirate king ill be one too!
like faggot think for yourself yeesh
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>>146597130

VA, Squardo, gun shot from BB's crew random fodder could damage WB. And that's why he's dead.
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>>146597249
He sure is. Even when it comes to pussy.
Oda confirmed it on the SBS he only gets nosebleed because he copies usopp.
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>>146597130
Fodder can handle arbitrary tasks you don't feel like doing yourself. They can also man ships so that your entire crew doesn't have to go do something you only need one or two people for.

A week ago, the Straw Hats were split in three. And then them and their alliance were split in four.
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Based cracker it's going to be sad to see him job to a tiny tap. Live his design and fruit power though. Puppet masters that actually fight are my shit.
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Oda a hack
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>>146597130
Anon its One Piece, Oda does this all the time.
>Franky Family helped besiege Enies Lobby
>CAPTAIN BUGGY's army of convicts
>Gattz and civvies getting Luffy away from Doffy long enough to heal

This is almost a war, those numbers will count soon enough.
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>>146597130
Territorial control.
Labor.
Meat shields.

Or as in Big Moms case, to own a huge number of souls.
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>>146597280
I think the point to take from this is that there's tons of pirates out there that aren't strong enough to challenge you in a real fight, but aren't weak enough for a good CoCking, and so a horde of them is actually effective even in the New World.

What if Luffy wants to protect Fishman Island and Big Mom sent like Tamago and Pekoms there to destroy it? He can't teleport there.
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>>146597373
but hes not a puppet master he creates biscuits
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screen cap this luffy ate cracker.
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>>146597437

But sheer number does impact a fight in One Piece. Pretty sure Luffy would lose if he had to fight 10 VA at once.
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Could luffy give big mom a kid to avoids fight?
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>>146597365
Wtf I hate Luffy now
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>>146597509
Come on anon he uses his biscuits to fight like an army you know what I mean.
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>>146596594
Except we literally see the clones still blocking Luffy's gear four attacks....
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>>146597635
Chigao. We see the shields and clones crumble.
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What if we see Luffy all deflated next panel and Cracker defeated? Would it mean Cracker was to G5 what was a fucking door to G3?
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>>146595634

The bloat is a real problem. Either all of WBs underlings were push overs or they were not trying their hardest. This guy seems above most WB commanders if he's really able to spam those suits. Somewhat glad Luffy didn't just hop to admiral tier in just 2 years.

This bratty 18 year old was able to smack around 2 shichi and just 2 years later take on the second largest crime boss, assuming that Kaido is the top of that particular chain. Bit quick, and the scale of destruction is only going to go up.
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>>146596594
fuck off luffyfag

Cracker is one of Big Mom's, one of the fucking Yonko's, top commanders. You think he is incapable of infusing haki on his biscuit clones? Think again
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>>146597720
The original armor crumbled too...
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>>146586845
why doesn't luffy just eat the biscuits
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>>146597737
Some anon speculated that Nami will make it rain on the seducing woods, making cracker's biscuits soggy.

Cracker is the gatekeeper to the Yonko level. He's telling Luffy that there's too much of a difference.

Just like Blueno.
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>>146596516
The thing is, whitebeard said that shanks vs mihawk's duel is "legendary" not just an occasional skirmish. I think it's pretty safe to assume that mihawk is at least "almost" if not yonkou level.
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>>146597859
Shittiest theory. Water also affects Luffy. Also implying cracker is slow. He is not an idiot like Luffy. He would sense Nami
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>>146597914
Sucks we won't get mihawk fights ever.
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>>146597743
The Whitebeard Commanders fought tougher opponents.

Ace was only killed because he tried to save Luffy.
Marco only lost because Whitebeard had a seizure.
Jozu too.

It's probably true that Big Mom would need very powerful commanders compared to Whitebeard though.


I want to know Pound's story. Why did Big Mom replace him with Cracker?
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>>146597914
>Couldn't even touch Jozu
>Couldn't beat Vista, they were about evenly matched (Mihawk would have won if the fight continued though)
>Whitebeard is clearly many times stronger than Jozu and Vista
>Mihawk is yonko level
>kek
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>>146597987
Not against Zoro, but Shiryuu of the Rain, yes we will.
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>>146597859

Honestly i believe Luffy will take on Big Mom at the end of the arc. I don't get people saying that he's not ready yet. He was not ready for Lucci, he was not ready for Crocodile even not ready for Doflamingo (according to anons this time). yet he beat them all.
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>>146597997
He didn't even try to hurt jozu. I know mihawk isn't yonko level but come on now.
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>>146595992
>Marco and Jozu only lost when they got distracted and ganged up on
Which makes me wonder how strong them, Ace, as well as the Blackbeard Pirates are.
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>>146597997
Mihawk could end war alone if he wanted to. He just doesn't give a fuck.
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so carrot and chopper busted out of brulees hutt?
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>>146598059
He sent his most powerful slash against Whitebeard but Jozu, who is inferior to Whitebeard in terms of strength, intercepted it without even a scratch. He wasn't even the least bit tired - right after he fucking picks up a iceberg and tosses it at the admirals.

How is Mihawk near Yonko level anon?
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>>146597997
Mihawk's strength is unknown.
However even though we can say with certainty some statement like:
>Rayleigh cut Kizaru's face in a duel of swords.
We cannot say that Rayleigh could do the same to Mihawk.

Since Mihawk is Zoro's friend, and endorsed him, and endorsed Luffy. It's safe to say he does not see them as an enemy.
If Mihawk meant to cut Jozu he would have. Possibly Whitebeard too.

He tried harder vs Zoro at the Baratie.
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>>146587262
>has a sword
>implying Luffy will fight him properly
>obviously a Zoro battle
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>>146598120
Did you just pull that out of your ass or something
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>>146597172
I'm not complaining, I have masturbated countless times to get. But what is the logical answer?
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>>146586952
reminder that Law is a tactically worthless fighter despite his completely hax powers.

> can instantaneously and imperceptibly teleport swap shit is his big bubbles
> confirmed able on Punk Hazard to be able to do it with seastone restraints
> discards his own cuffs literally 2 minutes before facing off Doffy

the fight with Doffy (and really any other fruit user) should have been over before his opponent even realized it started.
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>>146598056
You honestly think Luffy is Yonko level, even though we saw him clearly struggling against a mere commander? Wow.
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>>146598120
Anon, congratulations on making the stupidest comment on this thread.
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>>146598220
Fuck, to her*
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>>146598268

But he struggled against Blueno. Also i believe into G5.
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>>146598268
You honestly think Luffy is Shichibukai level, even though he struggled against Mr. 3?
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>>146598143
because he is friend of Shanks, just like Buggy
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>>146598205
Mihawk fans tend to do that.
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>>146597494

This.

They just need 'enough' arrogance/willpower to no get KO'ed. From there they can just gun spam and be used as a meat shield to slow you down.

Even with all the shit at MF Luffy was still getting nicked randomly by marines. I wish gun play had some function in the series so that a swarm of marines was a threat. And not in the usual robin/nami are on mook duty kind of way, but have hundreds of marines shooting and hounding the non bullet immune characters and actually landing hits.
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I think it's pretty shitty they gave Cracker such an obvious weakness. He's going to job like that Aerosmith guy did on Dressrosa since one scratch to his real body and he's dead.
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>>146598346
>>146598385
Right, just like he totally struggled and won at Sabaody, right?

And here I thought people thinking Luffy being yonko level was just a meme.
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>>146586845
Cracker is BM's Marco or Jozu. I can't believe people are whining about Luffy's power now that he gets a tense fight against a strong opponent. He's always been the underdog expect for two arcs after the timeskip where he stomped everybody.
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>>146598615
Saboady was given a flashback at the time Rayleigh proposed to train Luffy and then there was a two year time skip.
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>>146598615

> Beat everyone until a certain point
> Realize he's not strong enough and lose his brother
> Train like crazy for two years
> Realize he's not strong enough

That's what people actually believe?
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>>146598615
>Rayleigh trained Luffy and graduated him six months early because he believed Luffy was still too weak to challenge the world.
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>>146598266

Powers are horrible under utilized in OP.

Read for 'events' and plot progression, pretend like every fight is just a fist fight because the varied powers in the series could end fight instantly if written by a different author. The powers are for the most part a flashy spectacle, rarely actual plot relevance. Same goes for not finishing the fight by taking the enemies head etc How many times have characters come back for round X to finally come out victorious after a beating.
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Why would a biscuit be hard? And how could a biscuits mouth and body move?
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>>146598756
Rayleigh had shit to do and realized Luffy was a lost cause due to his shitty devil fruit and lack of physical training
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>>146598886
By continually generating biscuit in a way that makes the appropriate patterns. He molds the biscuit. You can mold one with a knife he can do it with his fruit.
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>>146598739

That's almost as people don't know Luffy is the future pirate king.
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>>146599186

Die fucking Luffyfag. Blackbeard is the future pirate king.
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>>146599262
Blackbeard should be the MC to be honest.
It's better than an autistic rubber faggot.
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>>146599402
>implying bragbeard's jobbing adventures would be any more entertaining
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>>146599262
ZEHAHAHAHA the series.
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>>146597796
right but they dont all have crackers inside them
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>>146599424
Blackbeard defeated Marco and co. He is way above Luffy now. Especially with his broken DFs
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Law comes out of Nami's tits and helps Luffy.
Screencap this
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>>146599658
Cracker has just been fighting a drawing of Luffy this whole time
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is there a count for characters in the whole cake arc that have been captured?
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>>146599756
1?
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>>146599601
So the phoenix fruit keeps the user alive right? I'm guessing there is some loophole there that kept Marco alive while Blackbeard took his fruit. That way he's nerfed at his reintroduction and him helping out isn't immediately overwhelming everyone around him.
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>>146598220
1,She took some clothes off to get in a bath
2, Oda felt like drawing some boobs, he loves boobs
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>>146599849

your not even trying
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Caesar for nakama get
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>>146598266

anon, his cuffs in punk hazard were not seastone

>feeling the NEED
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>>146587262
He's a badass coward, a rather rare yet endearing combination.

Not to mention biscuits are delicious, especially with butter and honey.
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>>146600000
holy shit
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>>146599906

Marco without fruit is nothing Phenix is in his fucking name
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>>146600000
N-NANI?
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>>146599998
Who's been captured besides Sanji?
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>>146600000
wow confirmed
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>>146600000

NO FUCKING WAY
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>>146600000
>>
>>146600176

Chopper,carrot,Ceasar,Jimbei, and possibly Pekoms if he is not dead already.
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>>146600000
There's nothing stopping it now.
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>>146600000
yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>146600000
Holy fuck, Confirmed
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>>146600236
Pekmons is going to save luffy from biscuit-kun.
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>>146600236
Chopper and Carrot figured out a way to use the mirror world against them so they aren't really captured anymore.
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>>146600000
Jesus. Yes.
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>>146600148

Phoenix is his nickname. We don't know his fullname.
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>>146600000
he has no chance at being a straw hat. he's an evil cunt to the bone and will probably nuke big mom's islands with another shinokuni this arc.
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>>146592595
oda's pacing is ridiculous
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>>146600000
why does the evil scientists always win? is not fair
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>>146600005
the ones he was wearing weren't seastone, since he magically switched them out as he was getting detained.

he obviously can't use his powers while cuffed by them, the point is that he could teleport seastone away to/from arbitrary locations.
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>>146600000
Waste of quints. It's going to be Carrot.
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>>146600356
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>>146600103
>Cracker is actually a cool name
>but I can't stop laughing at how the fanbase has dubbed him Biscuit Man
Its just a funny word to me, I can't help it
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>>146600328

Still who wants a nerfed ex youkou cremate in the grandfleet we need someone to best Kizaru.
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>>146600509
I was losing my shit last night at how mad people were getting over biscuits. Kek biscuits
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>>146587262
if Doffy was revealed to have Cracker's eyes it would've been legendary
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>>146600305

still got captured no excuse
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>>146600000
Amazing
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>>146600559
i-i do...
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>>146600328
Ananas Marco
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Someone has the Kaido pics with Urouge's face?
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>>146600305
They still have ball and chains attached to their legs though, and it seems they can't get out by their own will, so they still are prisoners somewhat
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>>146600642
Wait, how did Chopper go monster point yet is still walking around afterwards?
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>Rewatching Fishman Island
>They capture Caribou and he talks about how it's smart to have a sea monster pull your ship

Sea King ship steed when? That would actually be a cool addition to the crew. Also

>The 66 in Germa 66 refers to their eyebrows.
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>>146601011
I think they did that with Momoo on Sanji's ship back at arlong park.
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>>146601011
>watching
Do you hate yourself or something?
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>>146601011
>The 66 in Germa 66 refers to their eyebrows.
Seriously?
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>>146601120
It doesn't though. Unless the vinsmokes were part of Germa since the beginning then yeah
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>>146601095
i like my entertainment presented to me rather than actively reading, i can passively watch
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>>146601251
The anime is good up until the start of dressrosa.
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>>146601219
I was under the impression they did create germa.
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>>146601073
>They didn't follow through with it.
Man fuck.

>>146601095
I started at Thriller Bark I told myself to stop after Punk Hazard. Never watched it animated and I really like Caesar so it's worth it. Not even touching Dressrosa. I'm not that much of a masochist.

>>146601120
It just seemed to make sense when the connection was made.
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>>146587147
I want him to start being supported in battle by his crew mates.
Something like Nami starting a lightning storm around Luffy and whoever's he fighting creating more opportunities for Luffy to attack
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>>146600000
idk if caesar will get along with carrot though
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>>146601302
I don't think is mentioned
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>>146601334
>>146601334
>>146601334
NEW THREAD
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>>146601333
>Remember that bomb that almost killed your entire race?
>That was me, friends?
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>>146596514
Law had his DF and Zorro had to get super-launched into the air to make one of his best cuts
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>>146600000
I want to believe; considering they're still following him after the fact, he seems to have potential, except he's evil
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>>146600328
Marco Pantani
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>>146595486
Kizaru is CIA tier
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Do oyu think this fruit will be in this arc?
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>>146598266
>reminder that Law is a tactically worthless fighter

seconded. he could have teleported seastone cuffs onto him then ripped his heart out in pic related, but he chose to just use his painful but not really harmful attack for no reason.

> oda should make powers less ridiculous if he has to make their users retarded to compensate for narrative reasons
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