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Madhouse vs Kyoani

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Taking into account everything they've made so far, which is the better studio?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11126945
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Madhouse, by far.
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Madhouse, easily.
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>>146547817
Haruhi > everything and anything.
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They're both washed up studios who's best content aired years ago. About equal I guess.
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Koe no Katachi is going to be better than any Satoshi Kon movie.
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Madhouse doesn't improve source material.
Kyoani does.
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>>146548163
You don't really believe that.
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Let's see.

Mirage of Blaze
Rizelmine
X Movie
Chaos;Head
Marvel Shit
Aquarian Age
Mahou Sensou
Ultraviolet
Tenjou Tenge
and a bunch of shitty 80s/90s OVAs

Taking into account everything they've made so far, Madhouse has produced far more terrible anime and a greater percentage of terrible anime.
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>>146548323
The K-On movie, Disappearance, and Tamako Love Story were all better than his movies, so why wouldn't Koe no Katachi?
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>>146548358
I actually do believe you. It's pretty depressing there are people as stupid as yourself browsing /a/.
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Madhouse has a SHIT load of works that are flat out diarrhea, can't really say the same for KyoAni.
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>>146547817
>Madhouse
Literally who?
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>>146547817
>which is the better studio?

I wonder.

Madhouse - $25 million in debt before bought out by NTV.

Kyoani - solid track record and amazing production values.
Praised by overseas companies, industry veterans and other studios.
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>>146548468
Everything after Hyouka has been pure trash, save for Hibike.
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>>146548589
>save for Hibike
Opinion discarded.
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>>146548420
Tip that fedora harder
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Chances are that a new KyoAni anime in current year is going to be better than a new Madhouse anime.

But if I tried to make a lit of the top 20 anime from Madhouse or KyoAni, Madhouse would have 15+ spots.
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>>146548589
Nope, pure trash would be this >>146548351
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>>146548468
K-On, Hyouka, Amagi Brilliant Park, Lucky Star, Endless Eight, Air, Free, Phantom World and Chuunibyou.

On top of that, Kyoani have never reached the heights of Madhouse at their best. None of their anime come close to anything Satoshi Kon worked on, particularly Magnetic Rose and Millennium Actress. Then you have a whole range of other top tier shows and films: Kaiji, Kaiba, Paradise Kiss, Texhnolyze, Metropolis, Barefoot Gen, Card Captor Sakura and Gungrave among many many others. Sure they have duds, especially in more recent times, but taking all of their works into account, they're a far better, more ambitious studio than Kyoani.
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>>146548843
was your intention to list mostly good works?
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>>146548683
>h-he doesn't like MY kyoani!
>m-must be a fedora tipper!
Would you like a tissue?
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>>146548101
>who is best content

Is this a bizarre rhetorical question?
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>>146548892
For Madhouse, yes.

For KyoAni, no. None of those works have any real quality writing, nor do they have a grain of ambition. Reality check: K-ON as a whole is a 5/10 at best; pretty visuals don't make up for an extremely shallow script.
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>>146548843
None of those things you listed are worse than Madhouse's bubbling diarrhea like Needless or Stitch. Some are even great or good, but you're just baiting.
>K-On
K-On is the pinnacle of anime.
Madhouse has never reached KyoAni at their best, and they never will now that all their talent is dead or gone. Bubbling diarrhea has taken over.
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>>146549076
>None of those things you listed are worse than Madhouse's bubbling diarrhea like Needless or Stitch
But they're well below Madhouse's par for the course.

>K-On is the pinnacle of anime.
>Madhouse has never reached KyoAni at their best
>this is what idiots believe
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>>146548843

>Keion
>Amagi
>Lucky Star
>Haruhi S2
>Chuuni S1

>bad
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Also, Nichijou is the greatest anime of all time, so KyoAni by default.
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>>146549409
Madhouse's par for the course is bottom of the barrel trash, so no.
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>>146549429
>says endless eight was good
How to spot an utterly mindless idiot who eats up whatever shit his favorite studio churns.
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>Quality of shows
KyoAni wins because of K-ON
>animation prowess
KyoAni wins because they're animation gods
>overall studio management
Madhouse got massive debt then bought out so KyoAni wins

Verdict: KyoAni wins in a landslide victory
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>>146549535

Not *everything*. Phantom World was trash, I didn't like Chuunibyou S2, not a big Key fan, etc.
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>>146549535
Found the pleb who can't appreciate art
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>>146549497
Nope. If we're to examine the studio's entire backlog as the OP states, their par is around Trigun, Black Lagoon, Hunter X Hunter and Parasyte. That is already far better than shows like K-On and Chuunibyou.
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>>146549076
>K-On! is pinnacle of anime
Yes, just like Boku no Pico is.
>Madhouse has never reached KyoAni in their best
Well, it wouldn't make sense for them to reach rock bottom in their prime.
>and they never will now that all their talent is dead or gone
They might just have a chance.
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>>146549581
>he thinks repeating the same episode over and over again is art
>b-but they animated them individually!
Found the idiot.
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>>146549633
So their par is uninspired bland adaptations? KyoAni wins again, they only improve source material instead of doing lazy, mindless copypastes.
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>>146549539
>>146549076
>K-On is the pinnacle of anime
Why are you posting on /a/ today, Digi?
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>>146549581
You mean, people watch the whole endless 8 instead of episode 1,7,8 ?
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>>146549708
Here's a serious, non-bait question, were Chuu2 and Phantom World changed by KyoAni ?
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>>146547817
The one that's actually a studiol.
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>>146549708
>So their par is uninspired bland adaptations
>look mommy, i'm trolling on 4chan!
Looks like there's nothing to argue with. Retards like you are boring.
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>nobody has pointed out how ridiculous it is to compare a studio that's been doing anime since the 70s to a studio that's been doing anime since the 00s
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>>146549982
shut up
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>>146549982
Badhouse is literally my dad's used cum rag, not a studio senpai.
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>>146549633
Wow generic action shows! Really advancing the medium of animation in interesting ways. This is obviously a troll post, if it was sincere it would have atleast named their worth while projects of Redline, Dennou Coil, and Vampire Hunter D.
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>>146550087
>kyoani retard realizes how stupid he was, so he resorts to falseflagging as the OP
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>>146549633
>Trigun, Black Lagoon, Hunter X Hunter and Parasyte.
not sure if serious
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>>146550124
KyoAnus is literally shit-smeared dildo of your mom, not a studio
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>>146549982
It's a ridiculous comparison, but for very different reasons.
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>>146547817
The shows KyoAni and Madhouse produce are almost on complete opposite ends of the genre spectrum. It's be silly to compare them to each other.
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>>146550168
That was a joke
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>>146549982
Madhouse and Kyoani are the only studios that Western populist anime fandom can quote by name, no doubt due to HxH, One Punch Man, Kyoukai no Kanata and Hibike. They're basically the casual, normalfag studios of choice.
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>>146550138
>Wow generic action shows!
Try watching them.

>Really advancing the medium of animation in interesting ways
In contrast to Kyoani's "___"

>This is obviously a troll post, if it was sincere it would have atleast named their worth while projects of Redline, Dennou Coil, and Vampire Hunter D.
If you weren't a stupid idiot and chose to actually read, you'd have realized I was highlighting their par-shows. You just highlighted their better shows, which are an echelon or five above Kyoani's average.
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>>146550124
It's sad that Madhouse became a bought out whore.
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>>146547817
Madhouse and it isn't even close.
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Why even try to make a thread about KyoAni? The shitters will rip the thread to shreds.
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>>146550237
>western populist fandom
>Kyoukai no Kanata
>Hibike
Guess again.
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>>146550302
>Implying that these aren't popular
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>>146550296
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>>146550243
What techniques do Trigun, Black Lagoon, or Hunter x Hunter use that pushed the medium?
For KyoAni this has an easy answer, The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya is all animated on 2s. Hyouka's genius spot colouring, K-On's relinquishment of removed adolescence by genius framing. Hibike Euphonium's use of lighting, and Nichijou is one of the most well animated comedy shows of all time, this is all in the span of just this decade.
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>My favourite studio kyoani's is the gloriest. Let's see which studio to compare it to

>Sunrise
>They're the wealthiest studio out there with their merchandise sales so probably not
>Ghibli
>Their movies has been recognized worldwide so i'm too afraid..
>Gainax
>They're dead right now but a lot of their old works are solid and are /a/'s essentials so i better not say anything
>Production IG
>They've worked on a lot of classics so i better not mess with them..
>Shaft
>I hate them but they have a secure lineup so i don't want to say anything wrong
>Bones
>They've a lot of talented animators plus i'm too scared to argue with Bonesfags
>DEEN
>Their adaptations have been pretty good lately. They've even beaten us last year

>I'll know! I pick Madhouse who's barely even putting out anything these days. That'll show em!

I'm surprised you didn't pick Gonzo, OP. That way you'd get a lot more strawpoll votes on kyoani's side.
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>>146550368
I said the THREAD for a reason, smartass
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>>146550334
If we're talking about western fandoms, shows like Naruto, Tokyo Ghoul, Attack on Titan, Sword Art Online and Hunter X Hunter come to mind.

There isn't a single KyoAni show that even comes close to the popularity of those shows in the west.
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>Madhouse soundly destroying Kyoani in the poll

Thank god, looks like /a/ hasn't been lost to the kyoanus shitters yet.
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>>146550479
It's the same 10 people that circlejerk them though.
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Hanayamata was underrated.
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>>146550382
>techniques
>pushing the medium
Such is the stupidity of a Kyoani idiot. One abstract shot or coloration and your creaming yourself, claiming it's an utterly majestic work of art, no matter how shallow the story or the characters.

Dumbasses like yourself will never learn.
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>>146550396
Don't forget White Fox as well. They've been destroying Kyoani in sales for a while now.
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>>146547817
> madhouse
A whore with no style

> kyoto animation
A whore with a shitty style
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>>146547817
Has KyoAni ever made anything as good as Satoshi Kon's works? Didn't think so.

This is the dumbest comparison I've ever seen OP.

KyoAni can only really be compared with Shaft.
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>>146550382
Madhouse never had any talented people who adapt manga so they are always hollow and lazy.
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>>146550807
But that's bullshit, people who adapted OPM loved it.
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>>146550636
Oh no how could I forget Story and characters. You do know madhouse doesn't have any script writers right?
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I love Kyoani but I gotta give it to Madhouse honestly.
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>>146548163
>>146548358
>>146549076
This is what KyoAnuslickers ACTUALLY believe.
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I love Madhouse but I gotta give it to Kyoani honestly.
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I love my dick, but i gotta give it to my ass honestly.
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>>146551032
If you loved Craphouse you'd put it to sleep
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>>146550800
Tell that to the Kyoani fans in this thread.
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>>146551080
That's what Hyouka did to me.
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>>146550800
You don't understand madhouse's structure
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>>146551080
I love it so much that I enjoy watching it struggle and flop.
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>>146550904
Didn't Madhouse outsource to BONES for OPM?
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Madhouse gave us greats like Satoshi Kon, Yoshiaki Kawajiri, and Takeshi Koike.

KyoAnus gave us fucking Yamakan.
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>>146551197
Good for you, because i can't find to enjoy KyoAnus drivel at all.
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>>146547817
How is this even a question? Madhouse for sure.
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>it's another school SoL centered around an ordinary high school boy and cute girls
>made by kyoani
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>28 people lick kyoanus
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>>146551309
I want to fuck those pancakes
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>>146551226
Not really, i can't find that much of BONES regulars at OPM. There were lots of talented freelancers at key animations though.
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>>146550768
>"no style"
You know nothing about Madhouse do you
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>>146551467
That part of his post's true atleast madhouse no longer has any discernable style.
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>it's a KyoAni vs X thread
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>>146551585
I really, really like this image.
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>>146551520
What is it about the OP's post you find so difficult to understand?
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Objectively Madhouse.

Picking KyoAnus just means you're a dumb fanboy that belongs on leddit.
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>>146550904
They didn't love it enough to do the comedy justice apparently.
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>>146547817
Madhouse if only for CCS
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>>146547817
>kyoani getting BTFO in the poll
Faith in /a/ restored.
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What the fuck is wrong with /a/ how did anime fans sunk that low, where shows like k-on are considered a masterpiece above the artistry of satoshi kon movies. There is really no hope.
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>>146551638
Or it means you're a contrarian faggot, in which case you'd fit in on 4chan easily.
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>>146551814
Or it just means madhouse fanboys are insecure about their taste and more likely to participate in juvenile studio wars threads.
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>>146547817
>Taking into account everything they've made so far
this is not even close to fair
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>>146551857
Nobody cares about your dead style over substance hipster director.
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>>146551857
Yamada is the greatest director since Dezaki.
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>>146551980
orrrr it just means you got btfo

hold that L bitch
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>>146549429
>good
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>>146551857
>K-On!
>not art
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>>146552035
Get the fuck outta here, holy shit when did you guys get so shitty. I thought people here had taste but this is worse than the generic youtuber crowd or MAL. Actually its worse. Anime is fucked. Moe is the future.
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>>146552083
Yeah, because I honestly give a fuck which is studio is more popular in a random strawpoll

Do me a favor and fuck off back to >>>/v/ once you're done participating in your weekly containment thread
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>>146547817
>Madhouse has more than double KyoAni's votes

CGDCT-fags BTFO
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>>146551857
Check the poll. It's only a vocal minority that's licking KyoAnus.
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>>146552135
I would put that on the same artistry level as big bang theory or other sitcoms so really low. Instead of Moe girls you got nerds, same shit now that i think about it. Both suck.
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>>146552149
>Moe is the future.

Truest statement in this whole thread.
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>>146549076
>K-On is the pinnacle of anime.
Oh man, thanks anon. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. That felt good.
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>>146547817
Movies: KyoAni
TV shows: Madhouse

>muh Kon
I like his work, but Yamada is better.
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>>146551980
If we're talking about insecure fanboys, nothing even comes close to Kyoani retards like yourself.
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>>146551857
Lurk more newfag. Most of it is ironic shitposting, although there is definitely a circlejerk of fanatics who do genuinely believe K-On is a masterpiece.
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>>146551980
You have to feel bad for Craphousefags though, because their studio is dead and they'll never recover.
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>>146552384
he said we take everything they have made so far so I'm sorry but kyoani films don't even come close.
Now if we take recently of course kyoani is far ahead in term of films
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>>146552384
>yamada better than satoshi kon
You could've just admitted you're stupid.
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>>146552475
Better take time to do something good than adaptating moe and sol every year with your sameface.
I'm glad kyoani is trying something new with evergarden, It looks pretty cool and original.
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>>146552475
Hopefully GodAni is kind enough to rescue more people from dedhouse
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>>146552562
You don't "adapt moe" you don't even know what moe is or means. Go back to /v/
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>>146552663
You know what I mean by saying this unless you're too retarded and agitated too understand simple things because someone doesn't praise shitty ln adaptations like you do.
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Comparing these two studios is pretty unfair considering Madhouse is well over 40 years old with 300+ titles to it's name while Kyoani is about half that age with about a third the titles.

Over all I'd say Madhouse, but within maybe the last 10 years I'd say Kyoani.
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>>146547817
>>What's your opinion about the anime as well? If given the chance to choose your preference, would you have chosen another anime studio to do your LN series?
The anime companies in Japan are very close to each other.
Someone can work at several studios, and studios help other studios anonymously.
Success isn't guaranteed by simply choosing a certain studio. I'm satisfied with the current system.
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>>146547817
Nobody besides /a/ gives a fuck about Kyoani, they arent even that noteworthy

Their last good show was Haruhi, which was released 7 years ago
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>>146552791
Agreed, Madhouse does some shitty LN adaptations.
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>>146553007
thanks for agreeing that kyoani most works are shitty ln adaptations.
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>>146553007
Badhouse sucks at adaptations in general.
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>>146553068
How are they shitty adaptations? Every KyoAni adaptation is pretty much universally considered better than it's source material. Besides for key shit.
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>>146553112
Stupid SoL adapted with a lot of moe don't make something good.
If the source material is shit, it won't end up good.
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>>146553112
That isn't difficult when you're adapting shit.

No ambition. No grit. No intelligent writing.
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>>146553194
>Stupid SoL adapted with a lot of moe don't make something good.
Are you an ESL or something? You come across as mentally retarded.
>If the source material is shit, it won't end up good.
False. K-On is a prime example of this. Or at Bankruptcyhouse, No Game No Life. A good director can turn shit into gold.
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>>146547817
Madhouse made CardCaptor Sakura, that's enough for me.
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>>146553231
Madhouse doesn't even have any writing.
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>>146553293
>K-On is a prime example of this
K-On is dead set garbage. Only the mentally ill believe it's as good as morons like yourself claim.
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>>146553293
So you think K-on and Ngnl are gold?
I may be an ESL but you're a retard.
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Madhouse did opm what else did kyoani do that was noteworthy lately? Was it hibike? Kyoani gets my respect for being totally independant and paying their staff good wages but their shows apart from moe and crisp animation dont offer much to someone who wont jerk off to the characters.
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>>146553328
What are you even talking about here?

If we're comparing studios, we're not comparing contracted staff members, we're comparing each studios set of works. The reality is, the best of Madhouse has far far far far far better writing than anything Kyoani has produced.
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>>146553384
based digibro

literally the socrates of anime
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>>146553388
"madhouse" did opm
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>>146553293
>No Game No life is gold
As expected from a kyoanifag, you have no taste.
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>>146553384
There we have it folks, Kyoanifags resorting to posting Digibro.
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>>146553388
OPM had nothing to it other than fights, what are you doing nigger?
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>>146547817
Kyoani is hit or miss, but when it hits it makes some of the greatest anime.
Madhouse makes fun anime but nothing that stands out too much.
I can't decide.
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>>146547817
This isn't even a contest.
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>>146553338
Explain your points.
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Holy fuck the amount of autistic butthurt from both sides in this thread is pure gold
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>>146553456
Badhousefags value flashy fights over storytelling and characters, more news at 11
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>>146553443
kyoanifags think color filters make something good.
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>>146553526
>demands others to explain their criticisms
>refuses to explain why it's a 10/10 masterpiece and the pinnacle of anime
I could, but you're not worth it. No amount of sensible critique could breach a skull as thick as yours.
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>>146553384
>digibro
holy shit, fuck off and form an opinion for yourself.
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A single Satoshi Kon movie is better than everything made by KyoAni combined.
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>>146553593
It's a brilliantly directed meditation of adolescence and more broadly the transience of life. Filled with countless meaningful shots and compositions.
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>>146547817
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>>146553889
He has a good point though. The studio seems to draw inspiration from film and photography.

>Kinoani confirmed
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>>146553664
>It's a brilliantly directed meditation of adolescence and more broadly the transience of life. Filled with countless meaningful shots and compositions.
You could say that about any garbage. Try explaining your points rather than mindlessly stating them.
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>>146548351
>and a bunch of shitty 80s/90s OVAs
nigga thats the holy grail of anime right there
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>>146553456
It had no fanservice and moe, that already puts it above everything from kyo. Combine that with sakuga from the finest of the industry, snarky humour with social commentary of the japanese workforce and a totally original parody but also praising of cliche shonen tropes and you got something that.is truly good and refreshing. Only a total nerd wouldnt get that
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>>146553947
wew didn't know you were in this thread too.
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>>146553889
The funniest part of that is 3 of your posts getting deleted.
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>>146547817

/a/ the official Kyoani dickwave forum. Not actually for discussing anime.
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KyoAnus is trash. Madhouse is the best.
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>>146553979
I've done infinitely more to defend my point then you have yours.
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>>146554063
and guess what, your defense completely and utterly worthless.
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Madhouse all the way
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>>146554001
>It had nothing
There, I fixed it for you.
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>>146551068

Hahahaha.
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>>146553947
>The studio seems to draw inspiration from film and photography.
Too much inspiration honestly. Sometimes I wonder why they're even an animation studio when a lot of their work can nearly be translated to live action scene for scene. Sure, they're good at animating, but they hardly take advantage of the medium at all.
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>>146551857

Shitposters and morons rule this community now. They have way more time to say stupid shit here than any rational person ever will.
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>>146554001
The OPM anime rode on the strength of the source material and good animation. The directing, color design, background art, and music were mediocre.
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>>146554141
>they hardly take advantage of the medium at all.
Were you dropped on your head?
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>>146552149

It's fucking horrible but almost kind of funny now. Like complete disorganized utter nonsense shit getting spewed some days. This is a really really exceptionally bad day though.
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>>146554063
Dude shut the fuck, stop emberassing yourself, you can like the kyoani bullshit but dont delude yourself into thinking it could compete with madhouses best. Not even close what would it even be k-on, haruhi, free? Damn what a dumb nigger
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>>146552445

It's getting kind of old though you have to admit
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Children please
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>There are people who don't think that cute fun things are above story with a strong message, deep meaning and well animated sakuga
>in 2015+1 (2016)
It's like you don't even like fun
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>>146554111
Well you are one of those losers that get a hard on from moe shows so your opinion is meaningless.
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Madhouse before the 2000s > KyoAni

KyoAni > Madhouse after the 2000s
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>>146554401
Still not true.
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>>146554141
K-On, Nichijou, Hyouka, TLS, Hibike wouldn't be possible in live action. For Yamada specifically, her statement is basically "animation as life". She captures an expressionist reality, something that can't be done in live-action.
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>tfw huge KyoAnifag
>tfw KyoAnifags are shooting themselves in the foot in this thread
Just stop embarrassing us kudasai
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>>146554368
Form and technique is much more import than almost any story.
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>>146554389
Well you are one of those landwhales that get wet from fujoshit shows so your opinion is meaningless.
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>>146554401
It's like you don't even know all the masterpieces after 2000
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>>146554449
>KyoAni TV anime > Madhouse TV anime
You're delusional.
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>>146554449
>Madhouse movies > KyoAni movies
This, and it's not even close.

I'm beginning to think that a lot of the KyoAn fags in this thread are simply ignorant to the works Madhouse have done over the years. I'm not gonna blame them though, they just don't know.
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>Almost 1/3 of the people who voted are underage
Why am I not surprised?
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>>146554482
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>>146554449
Casshern Sins
Paranoia Agent
Texhnolyze
Dennou Coil
Kaiba
Kaiji
Chihayafuru
The Tatami Galaxy
Monster

There isn't a single KyoAni TV series that is better than any of these.
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>>146554542
> KyoAn fags in this thread are simply ignorant to the works Madhouse have done over the years.
Of course they are, look at this anon >>146554401
It's like he is saying that metropolis, patlabor, texhnolyze, Tokyo Godfathers, mousou dairinin, toki wo kakeru shoujo, paprika, kaiji, dennou coil, casshern sins, kaiba, redline, the list goes on, don't exist.
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KyoAni is fucking garbage.
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Flophouse is fucking garbage.
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>>146554820
BAHAHAHAHAHHAA
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Ignoring the fact that Madhouse is now completely irrelevant without Kon,

>sum of their best works
Madhouse > Kyoani

>ratio of great works to trash
Kyoani > Madhouse

>average or expected quality of a work
Kyoani > Madhouse
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>>146554768
Hyouka, Haruhi and K-On are better than (most) of that list.
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>>146554401
2000s Madhouse still had some good shows, the real decline started in the late 2000s.
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>>146554781
Random moeshit slice of life shows with bad writting and boring cliché plots are like 10 times better than any of those, though.
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>>146554886
This pretty much. I'm a KyoAni fag, but madhouse has so many works that a large amount are good or great.
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>>146554964
>i'm a kyoanusfag
kill yourself
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>>146554933
>le false flagger face
fuck off
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>>146554886
I can agree with this
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>>146554984
>falseflagger
>when meming a stupid fuck
sure thing retard.

>le
fuck off reddit.
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>>146554781
>action cartoons for kids
SoL is a far more complex and patrician work than such crude and simple action.
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>>146554768
Tatami is the only one from this decade and shouldn't even by credited to Madhouse but to Yuasa.
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>>146554886
most of kyoani works are stupid trash with no ambition though.
Both have the same amount in the ratio of shit.
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The polls have spoken, KyoAnus sniffers.

Watch more anime and lurk more.

Only then maybe we'll give you permission to post here.
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>>146555058
Right, I don't think anyone is arguing that Madhouse hasn't declined in the 2010s though.
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>>146554886
Pretty much this.
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>>146555058
>tatami is the only one
>Openly admitting that you have bad taste
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>>146555105
if you can't recognize that kyoani is a cut above 95% of the rest of the anime industry, then i simply feel bad for you.
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Madhouse did Texhnolyze. I think we know the answer. Fuck K-On.
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>>146555058
Shit, Madhouse hasn't done anything worthwhile in 6 years.
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Obligatory otaku opinion. Filthy gaijins point of view is irrelevant to Japan
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>>146555137
I'm not the one giving credit to the studio and not the staff.
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>>146555149
Who gives a shit about production values when it's wasted on complete garbage though.
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>>146555105
>implying I haven't seen over 500 anime
K-On! is better written, directed, and animated than anything Shitoshi Kon put out.
In fact, K-On! is better written and directed than any anime I have ever seen (Hyouka is better animated though).
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>>146555058
The last part applies to Dennou Coil too since it's Mitsuo Iso's personal project.
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>>146555184
>>146555218
based Nip of good taste.
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>>146555222
didn't read. nice digits tho
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>>146555176
>Shit, Madhouse hasn't done anything worthwhile in 6 years.
But you just said that No game no life is gold >>146553293
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>>146555198
That's why studio wars will forever be pointless.
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>>146555184
>>146555218
garbage taste
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>>146548281
Phantom World says hi
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KyoAni is pure moe garbage so Madhouse wins by default.
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Madhouse? More like MANIMEhouse

KyoAni is girly stuff for faggots and trannies

Men rule this board like we rule the world
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Does Madhouse have any good directors and animators left, or did Maruyma poach them all when he left to form Mappa?
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Bit pointless to compare them since both studios have different styles

KyoAni focuses more on what they do best which is mainly moe slice of life and are able to put out some great animation for a tv shoe (plus there one of the only studios that pays animators hourly wage instead of by commission) but they usually won't straw to far away from that and they have a fairly small catalog for how long they've been around (23 tv shows and 10 movies for there 35 years of existence) so you barley have any wiggle room between loving them or hating them them

Madhouse is know to basically to anything and everything and has a huge catalog and you can easily find shows that are great but are complete shit (a dare someone to say the supernatural anime was good with a straight face) and is not a secret that they have been on some hard times every since Maruyama almost drove them into committing a manglobe (aka bankruptcy) before jumping ship to MAPPA

But desu My favorite studio at the moment is still David Production
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>>146555386
>when you don't even try to make good baits anymore
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>>146555420
>David Production
Why them of all studios?
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Am I the only one who love Godhouse, IG, & Godani equally? Both of those studios are great.
Also, I need right dose of Moeshit series to balance Manime series, vice versa.
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>>146555397
Ishizuka is decent and Asaka is alright.
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>>146555420
>David Production
That's a weird choice.
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>>146555176
kaiji, wolf's children, chihayafuru, opm aren't worth to you?
Even death parade and kiseijuu have more ambition than most of kyoani works.
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>>146554886
This. And stop this stupid studio war thread. Why do you have to bring it up everyday?
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>>146555397
>>146555420
When is MAPPA gonna get good though
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>>146555503
This tbqh fÄ…m smdh
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>>146555420
>35 years
Kyoani was an in-between studio until like 13 years ago when they made Munto, their first work.
>moe slice of life
They only have two SoLs, K-On! and Tamako Market
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>Kyoanifags
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>>146555556
Ore Monogatari was pretty good too and there you have a list that beats KyoAni's 2010s output any day.
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>>146553889
Shaft is the heir to the French new wave movement. If anyone deserves to be called anime kino, it's them.

Francois truffault would be proud.
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>>146555556
Kaiji was almost a decade ago. Wolf Children was mostly Hosoda's studio, OPM is barely madhouse.
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>>146555420
>My favorite studio at the moment is still David Production
Preach the gospel brother
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>>146555702
He's talking about the second season
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>>146554141
-t. John k.

He's right, btw.
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>>146555699
That's the shittiest statement i've ever heard. That's like saying the renaissance style. Simbo and his school of direction is more influenced by Obayashi
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>>146555556
>kiseijuu
there's nothing ambitious about a laughably butchered adaptation
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Studio shaft because of hidamari sketch
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>>146554368
Hey, a significant amount of anons legitimately believe sol is the only good anime genre.
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>>146555702
>It's not madhouse I swear
Sorry but it has the name of the studio on it, you can't refute it like that and call it a day
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>>146555681
2010s KyoAni: Disappearance, Tamako Love Story, K-On S2, Hyouka, Hibike, Nichijou
KyoAni wins.
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>>146555859
Is every show passed onto kyoani for a few cuts of animation a kyoani show?
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>>146555521
>>146555484
>>146555484
Because there one of the few new studious (they where founded back in 2007 so they aren't even 10 years old) and already have 2 shows I liked (first is level E, second one i'm not saying since it will spam the thread) and its more of a curiosity of where they are gonna go
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If Kyoani is so bad how come people don't just have other studios compete against eachother?

Why don't you ever do Shaft vs Madhouse?
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>>146555982
Because shaftfags and madhousefags are too classy.
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>>146555982
Because then it wouldn't be the MOE vs MANIME contest that shitposters love.
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>>146554768
I just watched The Tatami Galaxy and don't see why people like it so much. Kyoani has made tons of stuff better.
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Madhouse may have bunch of shitty shows but atleast have a nice variety of good anime either from manga adaptions or their own original works.
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>>146555904
Madhouse did a few cuts of animation and got all the money from those shows that's what you're saying?
stop joking, you're not into the center of the industry and I am not either but we both know that those shows are from who? madhouse.
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>>146547817
Silver link for nnb.

No sol comes close.
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>>146555655
ok sol was a bad way to use it I admit that,

But i meant that kyoani shows usually sticks to a set shared common element and rarely straws from them
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>>146555982
Because subconsciously everyone knows Kyoani set the standard for this decade and pushed the medium as an art form forward just as Gainax had done before them.
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>>146556073
It was in regard to the wolf children
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>>146556041
>madhouse doesn't have moe shit

See unlike Kyoani, Madhouse does fucking eveything.
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>>146555859
I bet you think Space Dandy is a Bones show.
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>>146555982
Kyoani is the protagonist of anime.
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>>146556094
"Set the standard for this decade "

Well k-on did inspire love live, complete with yui expy. Real proud legacy there.
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>>146555982
Kyoanifags are the easiest to trigger.

If you do any ther studio thread will die in 10 posts but shitting on Kyoani guarantees hundreds of (You)'s which shows there's some retarded cult following here who take shit to heart.
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>>146555982
Because Kyoani fags are the only ones that do that, is pretty stupid to compare animation studios to begin with it, you should compare directors and series of the same genere.
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>>146555982
It's not about kyoanus really. Just their insecure coven. All you have to do to trigger them is mention how evergarden will flop and bankrupt them, force them to get bailed out by aniplex, and spend the rest of their days making in betweens for shaft.
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Where you where when GODHOUSE did DEATH NOTE? WHERE YOU WERE ? WHERE YOU WERE?
Will Kyoani even COMPETE? Ohhh.
come again.
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>>146555982
>Why don't you ever do Shaft vs Madhouse?
Because they're both shit. Shat is literally Aniplex's slave and Badhouse is dead as nails as produces even shittier works than Shaft at this point.
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>tfw Godhouse did OPM last year
>poor kyoani is trying to compete with violet gardenflop
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Phantom world was so fucking trash I truly believe they are the same retarded autists that defend Asterisk
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>>146547817
Name 5 anime from each studio, that will be remembered in 10 years from now.

Kyoani only have Haruhi and maybe K-on, those are kyoani magnum opus
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>taking a studio wars thread seriously
You all are absolutely fucking retarded.
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Blown the fuck out.
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>>146556514
Are you self-employed,anon-kun? If not, then congratulations! You're a corporate slave too!
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>>146556790
Studio war threads are like Trump. They started out as jokey memes, then people actually started taking them seriously.
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>>146556706
true
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>>146556866
kyoanusfags on suicide watch
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what's the last well directed madhouse show?
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>>146557076
>well directed
No amount of "good direction" (which just means flashy backgrounds) can save every Kyoani series from being full of one-note characters and terrible writing.
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>>146557124
Because muh dead studio that flops like crazy.
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>>146557124
Because you're a Kyoani idiot, and you've convinced yourself the other side is butthurt, even though they have no reason to be.
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>>146557076
Tatami Galaxy

Modern Shat and Badhouse are good examples of what happens when you don't have good directors to keep things in line.
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>>146557259
Stay mad. It must genuinely pain you to know most of /a/ rates Madhouse as a better Studio than Kyoani.
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>>146557192
Madhouse doesn't have writers.
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>>146557206
Wow, Sunrise 9th. I kind of feel bad for them.
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>>146557192
>which just means flashy backgrounds
I really hope you're pretending to be retarded here
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>>146547817
I respect Madhouse but KyoAni's MO is right in my strike zone
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>>146557415
>KinoAni
>>>/tv/
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>>146556706
It's been almost 10 years and people still remember Lucky Star. It's been almost 15 years and people still remember Full Metal Panic.
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>>146557206
This chart is depressing
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>>146555982
Because that's not even a contest.
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>>146557504
lucky star was garbage though
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>>146558074
this desu
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>>146547817
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>>146553085
what? If you at least said that Madhouse had bland adaptations you'd at least have an argument, Madhouse pretty much has the most accurate-to-the-source adaptations out there, and I say that as someone who isnt even a fan of either.
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>>146553947
is it even possible for an animation to not be inspired by film? That's like saying there aren't any anime inspired by real life...
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>>146558074
>>146558108
That's, like, your opinion, dude. Plenty of people didn't like K-On or Haruhi either but no one's forgetting them.
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>>146554820
>lucky star
>muh food discussions
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>>146558488
Haruhi is only remembered by dumb ironic Steam weebs.
No one gives a shit anymore.
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>>146557206
Where do I find a full list?
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>>146558527
And also anyone that knows anything about anime. If you don't care about things like that just substitute it for Clannad, which is still huge with Average Joe Anime Watcher
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>>146556094
If this thread was just about animation quality, Kyoani would definitely win, but even implying Kyoani shows are "art," or really have any sort of depth past "cute girls are cute in high school," then I don't even know what to think of the anime community anymore.
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>>146558662
the average joe anime watcher watches shit like dragon ball and doraemon, not this modern shit that airs
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>>146558676
It's just not DEEP enough, you know? It's not art.
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>>146555982
Because shaft has been shit for a good time now and their best shows are comedies most of the time with the exception of Madoka which is an outlier by any measure.
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why is madhouse winning

wtf
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>>146558732
Correct.

You can like keion all you want, but is does not and never will hold any artistic merit.
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>>146558715
If those are the people you care about, they're not going to know anything from Madhouse either except maybe Death Note if they're a nerd. We're making comparisons, not fishing for reasons that both studios are irrelevant
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I'm just glad everyone here agrees that they're the two best studios in the game

At least we can agree there

I love them both
and whatever studio made Ping Pong
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when KyoAni have a catalog with things like pic related we could have a proper discussion
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>>146558790
Because overall have made better shows than kyoshit.
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>>146558892
Whoa, hold the fuck up. We're comparing them because they're comparatively shit.
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>>146558790
Because teh poll is rigged against based godani reeeeee
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A 100 votes difference, kyofags on suicide watch
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>>146558971
That episodic was fantastic.
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>>146558790
wtf i hate trump now
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>>146558790
>have multiple gems that /a/ likes
>surprised they are winning
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I think the poll and this thread shows that Kyoani isn't nearly as well-loved on /a/ as many assumed. They just have the loudest and most obnoxious fanbase.
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think umadhouse had less otaku/weaboo/moeblob pandering shit, so ill go with them
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>>146556094
>KyoAnifags are actually proud of the fujoshit decade KyoAni started
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>>146558676
Artistic merit is not defined by complex thematic grounds, the scale and stakes of its story. I hope you know Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry have more artistic merit than Monster, Texhnolyze, Kaiji, LOGH, Ergo Proxy and whatever derivative "mature" works the animesnob worshipers follow.
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>>146559763
>Kyoani
>starting fujoshit
No
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>>146559908
>free
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>>146560139
You really think Free! started fujoshit?
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>70% to 30%

Stay mad, kyoani fags.
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>>146558817
>art as an ascription of quality
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>>146555646
November 12th.
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>>146560172
Popularised it.

Same way SAO didn't start the trapped in vidya shit but popularised it in nipland
>>
Both badhouse and kyoanus are garbage.
>>
Is UFOTABLE normal tier or shit tier? Or only for Fate/fags tier?
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>>146555771
Who the fuck is john k?
that's my name
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>>146561319
Most discussed? Sure.

Most popular? Not so much. There's a reason it's getting stomped by Madhouse.
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>>146561535
I get it. You're the type of idiot who thinks films like Avatar and Titanic are among the best ever.
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>>146560868
KyoAnifag has no response. Absolute BTFO
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>>146561805
>Titanic
>Avatar
>bad
My Little Contrarian Can't Be This Faggot.
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>>146561915
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>>146560934
Average animation covered up by digital effects.
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>>146547817
One of those studios made Haruhi. The other did not. Any questions?
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>>146561915
I never even said they were bad you idiot. Re-read the post.
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>>146562003
One of those studios made Legends of the galactic heroes. The other made free. Any questions?
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>>146562152
Not Madhouse
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>>146562003
Which one made Millennium Actress?
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>>146562128
Haruhi v.s. LotGH then.
Still Kyoani for me
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>>146562128
Both are Yaoishit but Free at least had over the top animation. Also it's ironic that Madhouse is so shit they weren't considered for the LoGH remake.
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>>146562003
haruhi is overrated normalfag LN harem pandering romcom shit
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>>146562184
Which one made Keion on London?
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>>146562003
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>>146562128
LotGH is kinda shit on the rewatch. What does it say that hasn't been said thousands of times
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>>146555058
Then Haruhi and Free should be credited to Yamakan and Utsumi respectively if you want to put it that way. They both ditched Kyoani.
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>>146562243
Trash Series made by a Trash Studio.
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Madhouse wins easily for me.

But they just make/adapt shows I enjoy more,
HxH
Texhnolyze.
Gungrave

You can't fucking compete with that, I love Kyoani and Hyouka is a fucking gem but yeah.
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>>146555184
>>146555218
Didn't i already told you days ago that Japanese Faggot Yuuta interviews are normalfaggot trash? Shoo shoo
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>>146562302
>what does it say
Who the fuck cares what it "says"? At the end of the day, it's a massive complex, intriguing, highly ambitious space opera.

There is literally nothing Kyoani has that comes anywhere close to Legend of the Galactic Heroes. That OVA is so much better than everything Kyoani has made it's genuinely scary.
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>>146562395
Madhouse HxH is trash
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>>146555386
>Men rule this board like we rule the world

It sounds like you're hurting just typing that. Does masculinity scares you that much, babby?
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>>146562447
>Who the fuck cares what it "says"?
Because it isn't doing any thing interesting, inventive or new? It accomplishes nothing thematically.
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>>146562451
Well I still enjoyed it, Episode 131 is one of the best directed episodes ever that shit is magical.

OST feels underappreciated too.
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Kyoani fags so assblasted right now
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>>146562535
But is that really due to any thing madhouse did particularly well? Or is it just the manga is good.
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>>146555982
Because Shaftfags and Madhousefags and Triggerfags and Ghiblifags are bros.

But then come the Kyoanifags.
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KyoAni fags:
>KyoAni made <boring show> so I'll ignore everything else and say that they're the best.
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>>146562451
t. 1999 nostalgia shitter
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>>146561319
>Put madhouse against any other studio and the thread wouldn't even be alive right now

And?

Wait so you're seriously thinking that this flame wars is a good thing?
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>>146562487
Oh, really? Do enlighten me. Name a single anime that precedes it with anywhere near the same level of scope and ambition.

In fact, never mind anime that precede it, just name one single anime from any point in time.

Now let's see you weasel your way out of exposing your idiocy by saying something like
>f-faggot, i'm not spoonfeeding you
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>>146562771
Arslan. It was airing last season. Same author but a whole lot better.
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>>146561838
>Really makes me think.

Glad it did. Do it more often.
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>>146562196
Get a load of this fagtron.
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>>146562801
>precedes it
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>>146562858
> just name one single anime from any point in time.
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>>146561319
>Most discussed on /a/

Probably, because /a/ is stuffed to the brim with autistic neckbeards who will buy or watch anything with a sexualized loli in it then make desperate attempts to defend it when someone points them out.

>Actually thinking /a/'s opinion means anything when they have "What does she smell like" threads every other hour
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>>146562801
>25 episode TV anime
Nice to know Kyoanifags are braindead as usual.
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>>146562946
>KyoAni
>sexualized loli
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>>146562771
I didn't specify anime. But every ideal it holds is infinitely boring, and understood by almost everyone.
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>>146562964
33 episodes and still counting. You know LoGH didn't all come out at the same time right? It came out in more than half a decade. Also Arslan >LoGH in terms of Character development.
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>>146563041
>Arslan >LoGH in terms of Character development
>making a baseless claim without explaining it
Nothing new from a Kyoani idiot; the true extent of your brain capacity.
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>>146563091
If you watched both series you'd know why. Dariun is a much nuanced character than Reinhard, Yang or Siegfreid. The scope of the story in Arslan is also tighter which gives the cast more time to shine and not bore you to death by a retelling of the Prussian war.
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>>146562801
Look dude, i think your lust for the beautiful boi prince have blinded you.
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>>146563179
>If you watched both series you'd know why
If you had a grain of intelligence, you'd be able to explain why.

>Dariun is a much nuanced character than Reinhard, Yang or Siegfreid. The scope of the story in Arslan is also tighter which gives the cast more time to shine and not bore you to death by a retelling of the Prussian war.
It's baseless claims like this that illustrate you don't have a grain of intelligence.
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kyoani was great

then they weren't
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>>146549539
>kyo Ani are animation gods
I disagree. No show kyoAni has made has come close to the frame by frame erections that s Redline
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>>146563189
That boipussy is great but the story and characters behind it are all top tier. Best storytelling iin anime actually.
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>>146550138
>Trigun and Parasyte
>generic
Nigga these shows are the shit. At least in my opinion
>generic action shows are shit
I'd say generic action is less boring than generic slice of life
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>>146563397
That award actually goes to KyoAni for endless 8.
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>>146550194
Anon speaks the truth
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>>146563434
No one made claims of boring or entertaining.
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>>146562003
>made entry level shit for retard MAL and reddit faggots
You told them buddy
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Kyoani isn't anywhere near the level of Madhouse at their best. Probably never will be.
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>>146564151
>entry level
>code gay ass
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I don't understand how delusional you have to be to think any new airing anime will ever be as close to LoGH in terms of storytelling and overall quality.
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>>146564549
You don't need to, LoGH isn't very good in either. Kuma Miko last season was far better at storytelling with how haunting its story was.
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>/v/
>console wars
>/a/
>studio wars

what's the difference between the two again?
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>>146564649
Kill yourself.
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>>146564698
/v/ uses more impressive numbers than /a/.
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>>146564549
>the source material is good so the studio who gave it an uninspired adaptation is good
LOGH is an outdated meme. No one who actually respects genuine auteurs in the medium will think of it as a favorite.
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>>146564746
Impressive argument.
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>>146564698
/a/ has shit moderation, /v/ has no moderation
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Why were so many posts deleted ?
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Love this meme that K-on is the best anime. Otaku pandering and decent animation is enough, in your criteria? Come on.
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>>146565349
Perhaps they all came from one anon who got banned from the entire board.

Happens sometimes.
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>>146565349
It was one of the Kyoani shitters who used Digibro videos to back up his point about K-On being a masterpiece.
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>>146565555
Well, my opinion of the mods has now risen a bit.
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>>146547817
I didn't realize how much /a/ preferred Madhouse.
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>>146564549
Logh's storytelling was non existent.
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>>146547817
Madhouse
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>>146547817
Madhouse wins.

Fatality.
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>>146566533
Lurk more then.
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Even manime lovers don't talk shit about cardcaptor sakura. That's the difference between madhouse and kyoanus.
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White Fox is the spiritual successor to Madhouse. They do multiple genres, and do them all well.
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>>146553460
you got it backwards
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>>146571317
Call me when they adapt a single good manga.
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>>146566533
I thinks it has more to do with KyoAni having so many haters so they get voted against.
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>>146571657
Adapting Manga should normally be one of the easiest things to do, White Fox just seems to suck in that department for some weird reason while doing a great job of adapting LNs, VNs, and WNs which has been a challenge for the rest of the industry.
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>>146571745
>haters

What's it like being 13?

You seem to not realise Madhouse has alot of /a/ favourites in much more quantity than kyoani does. This would even be the same result if it was Sunrise than madhouse instead.
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>>146571826
I think it will.
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>>146571822
Probably because they pick the shitty ones like Akame.

They're more like a better version of Kyoani picking the non shit LN's/VN's to adapt.
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>>146571886
I don't think you know how things work, they're not in charge of choosing what to adapt.
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>>146547817
It's been nearly 60 years since anime started. Why can't any animation studio in Japan be as good and as prolific as Disney. They all seem shit when compared to Western studios.
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>>146571964
Yeah i know i just means figuratively.
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>>146572028
Aside from Disney and Warner what other prolific 2D animation studios existed back then?
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>There are people who can't appreciate cuteness and a steady, lighthearted tone
Almost every criticism of K-On! for example is just people expecting it to be something else. It doesn't compare to LoGH because it isn't meant to, it doesn't make you go into a laughing fit because it isn't meant to. This attitude is pure autism and the equivalent of saying that all horror or action movies are bad instead of just acknowledging that you'd prefer to watch something else.
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>>146572137
It's trash moeshit that is circlejerked hard by the same people everytime. I'd forget about it if not for how much people try to say it is the best anime ever. Even shit with little to no storytelling like Redline is better than that by far.
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>>146572137
/a/ is no better or less entitled than MALfags. Just look at the childish responses you get for daring to say K-On was not meant to be LoGH >>146572199
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>>146572136
Hanna Barberra, Dargaud Média and many German studios.
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>>146572236
But at the same time, look at the youtube-tier responses in this thread saying K-on is the pinnacle of anime. Both sides have their autists, but kyoani's side is much more vocal.
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>>146572286
I see KyoAni and moe haters in general being more vocal in this thread.
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>>146571886
It's not like adapting LN's, WN's, and VN's is a breeze even if you have good source material. Look at the Steins;Gate adaptation done by WF vs the Chaos;Head and Robotic;Notes adaptations done by other studios. S;G's anime was amazing, while the other two were pure flaming garbage.
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>>146549982
This entire thread was made to shitpost, /v/ style.

Do you really think they'll clear that out for the sake of """"""""""argument"""""""""""
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>>146572325
You new? K-on gets dickridden so hard to be the best anime of all time on /a/ it isn't even funny.
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>>146572325
Who the fuck hates moe? Madhouse made the Cardcaptor Sakura anime adaption, one of the greatest little magical girls-shows made of pure moe.
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>>146553456
>Rocky had nothing to it but, fights
>The good, the bad, the ugly had nothing to it but, gunslinging
>Jurrasic Park had nothing to it but, Dino's
>Samurai Jack had nothing to it but, sword battles
>Lord of the rings had nothing to it, but fantasy

Is this your argument? No wonder you Kyonoshitters are the worst fandom on /a/
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>>146572286
One person said K-On was the pinnacle of anime. I searched moe and got 21 responses from this thread.
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Madhouse films alone beat all of Kyoani
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>>146572520
Half of those posts are being ironic.
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>>146572617
You mean that only half of them are being ironic.
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This thread has almost reached its bump limit, what should we compare next? DEEN vs Bones?
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>>146572137
LoGH is legitimately not good and anyone who claims it to be the best anime ever are even worse offenders than Kyoanifags.
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>>146572616
Madhouse films were less Madhouse films and more like industry wide projects.
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>>146572617
Sure, just like how having a waifu was just a joke at first, before people came and took it seriously.

Poe's law
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>>146572723
What if they did take it seriously? Are they not allowed to have an opinion?
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>>146551309
>tfw you will never make perfect pancakes like these
Feels fucking bad man
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>>146572743
By acting like retards shitposting loudly like it's youtube and ruining board quality? No.
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>>146547817
You might as well go on /tv/ and ask if Michael Bay or Christopher Nolan is better.
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>>146557192
He literally asked for well directed Madhouse shows, and you just shitflinged the argument to bash kyoani instead

Are you fucking deranged? For all the preaching about "kyoanus fanboyism", you sure seem like a rabid fanboy.
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>>146562447
>who the fuck cares what it "says"?
Really nigger? That's your fucking argument?

Holy shit, i like lotgh, but you are doing bad job defending it, buddy
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>>146547817
>Best anime madhouse ever made
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>>146571826
I think everyone can accept that working 40 years in the industry will bring many good shows to the table.
That doesn't mean this thread was made for "discussion", this is /v/ levels of cancerous console wars.
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>>146572704
This and Madhouse is dead for long time already.
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>>146572199
>It's trash moeshit that is circlejerked hard by the same people everytime
Have you ever stop to think why is that so?

The only times people bring k-on or other kyoani related shows, is so they can derate them, to make the "other" side of the argument like the next coming of jesus christ.

And thats called fanboyism, you are not better than /v/ shitposting.
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>>146573671
>this is /v/ levels of cancerous console war
Actually madhouse fans are most likely either newfags or nostalgiafags coming from /v/, anyone with little of knowledge about the industry knows that madhouse ceased to exist long time ago.
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>>146572199
>It's trash moeshit
/v/ermin detected
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>>146572723
Welcome to the post-ironical era.

Where shitty 2nd-class sarcasm and tinly veiled "studio war" threads are the norm.

You guys are a fucking joke.
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>>146556422
>>146556572
Just curious, why do you predict that Violet Evergarden is going to flop?
>>
Perfect blue alone owns all of Kyoani, what a dumb comparison, Kyoani produces anime for social outcasts with a few decent ones like koe no katachi or haruhi. Madhouse aims to produce quality products with a wide range at least they did in the past, kyoani mostly just does Moe for otakus. Wouldnt be suprised if everyone voting for kyo was a total weirdo with shit taste. Probably one of those that think K-On is more than just decent.
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>>146573959
Go back to digibro retard. People here have liked madhouse since before your kind arrived here you son of a bitch.
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>>146575567
What a cringy post.
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Why does it feel like Madhouse fans are the only ones salty in this thread? They're being incredibly defensive even though their studio is winning in the poll, for whatever that's worth.
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>>146573959
Yeah you are seriously blind if you think /a/ has never liked madhouse shows from early.
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>>146575629
Stop trying so hard.
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>>146575988
If you consider a 3 sword sentence as trying too hard, you might have some brain problems.
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>>146575770
What are you talking about, so far KyoAni fans are defensive as fuck.
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>>146576054
>3 sword sentence
>sword
Jesus, stop trying so hard. You sound too uptight
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>>146576257
It feels like both sides are being a bit ridiculous.
>>
If I look over their whole history, Madhouse has a pretty good win. They have produced some genuinely fantastic work thhrough their back catalogue and did so in a huge range of settings and genres.

That said, considering the last few years and staffing/other situations: if you ask me right now if a hypothetical show next season is likely to be watchable I can almost assure you the Kyoani show will be something enjoyable on some level, while the Madhouse show has a similar chance to be great but might just be trash.

I guess this is a long way of saying Kyoani is consistent and while both studios peak high Madhouse has historically hit near their peak more often.
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>>146575372
>kyoani mostly just does Moe for otakus.
Aren't KyoAni's recent work notable for selling out side of standard demographics.
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>>146578130
Are you talking about fujoshit?
>>
>>146578829
No, Look at K-on's sales demographics. Look at how many say they aren't usually anime fans, look how many are women. They don't pander to the otaku.
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>>146578881
So you're talking about free! And fujoshit then.
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>>146579009
K-On! is Free!?
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>>146578881
You're gonna have to show some source on that.
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>>146578881
totally not for otaku
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>>146579152
Yoshihisa: For the timeslot that K-ON screens at, for normal core audience is age 20-35 females. But we with K-ON were aiming for a broader audience so younger people – teenagers, and also 20-35 female viewers, and I think we succeeded in making it appeal to a wider audience than just the people that usually watch that time slot.
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>>146560945
John kricfalusi. Creator of ren and stimpy. He's said that if animators don't try to do things in animation that they can't do in live action, you might as well just film it in live action.
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>>146579576
Wow that's a really interesting ideal to follow while animating.
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>>146547817
Same face vs madhouse hmmmmmmmm
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>>146579576
That assumes live action is the default and not a choice on it's own with it's own strengths and weaknesses.
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>>146547817
Arthouse vs Madhouse hmmmmmmmm
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Studios like a Kyoani and Ufotable, with a more consistent core team of staff members, are in a different category than studios like Madhouse with a much larger volume of work and a lot more outsourcing. One punch Man, they're most impressive recent tv series animation wise, was a huge collaborative project involving many outside talent. Meanwhile Kyoani trains their animators themselves in-house and boy does it show.

Body of work:

Madhouse >>>>> Kyoani

Animation quality:

Kyoani>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Madhuse.

If we're talking pure sakuga, madhouse can't even touch them. Sure you can list the many many good series they've done in the past, but that just shows how out of their prime they are
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>>146581597
I'm a huge KyoAnifag and I would argue that studios like Madhouse or Bones can potentially make better sakuga because of freelancers but can't offer consistency, because of freelancers as well. For example, OPM and MP100 both have pretty impressive and dynamic animation sometimes that I haven't seen much of in KyoAni shows, but then there's also lots of stills and corner-cutting. And then there's also the shows that they don't care as much like Btooom!, Soul Eater Not! or Chaika and they just don't have nearly as good animation quality as even the ugliest KyoAni show.
>>
>>146550419
This. Even in Indian subcontinent also this holds true. No one cares about Kyoani shit- they are considered too girly and also trashy with no intrinsic value. If we want good girly anime we watch shoujo like Kaichou wa Maid Sama, etc. Action shows like Noragami are far more heard of than Haruhi.
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>>146552222
Checked.
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>>146582554
Because Naruto, SnK, and SAO are totally the better option.
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>>146550419
>caring about the west
>>>/v/
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>>146579282
>aiming for
>I think
Still don't see anything that proves your claim there.
>>
>>146583901
>kyoani mostly just does Moe for otakus.
>making a anime aiming at a different demographic.
The discussion was in regard to target.
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>>146583901
Not him but it aired on Disney Channel Japan, I think girls actually liked the show.
>>
>>146584038
I doubt 20-35 year old females spend hours watching disney channel Japan.

>>146583988
So they want the homobucks from the fujos then?
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>>146547817
They are equally shit.
>>
>>146556094
dont ever compare gainax with kyoanus, its like comparing nirvana with justin bieber
>>
Madhouse is better. Kyoani shows have better quality overall, but they keep to the formula by adapting shitty VN's. Madhouse takes more risks which results in some shit shows here and there, but also some fucking masterpieces.
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>>146586793
>KyoAni
>VNs
What year are you from?
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>these poll results

Kyofannys on suicide watch.
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>>146589753
I don't see any butthurt KyoAnifag by this. If anything Madhouse fans are acting very salty in this thread.
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>>146590013
kyofaggy's on suicide watch
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>>146590101
Thank you for proving my point.
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>>146590171
kyogrannies on suicide watch
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>>146590305
Why grannies? Doesn't make sense.
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>>146590348
kyoemmys on award control
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KusoAnus on bowel control
>>
This thread is pure cancer
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>>146591345
kyokeikaku's on plan control
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>>146591493
ChirurgyAni on cancer removal
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>>146591696
kyotrannies on genitalia control
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MadokAni doesn't love HomuraAni
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