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Which one is top and which one is bottom?
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>>146539367
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Zamasu is clearly bottom.
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>>146539367
Use the catalog faggot >>146501759
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>>146539367
xth for DBZ KEKS MAD AND BLACK BEST /SMUG/ VILLIAN
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>>146539464
Fucking ningen
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Vegeta Black when
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>>146539634

Oh I'll show you ningen.
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>>146539652
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#57: Advent of the Immortal God, Zamasu
#58: The Mystery of Black and Zamasu
#59: God of Destruction of Universe 10
#60: Gowasu's Infinite Wisdom
#61: Black To The Present
#61: Rematch! Son Goku vs Black!
#62: Omni-King's Button
#63: The End of All
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he's never going to be relevant huh?
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>>146539714
He's literally the main villain
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>>146539464
>>146539539
>>146539634
>>146539652
>>146539691
>>146539714
God DBS threads are cancer
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>>146539763
>Replying to all of these

Fucking autists
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>>146539747
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>>146539700
>62
>Zen-chan button
I hope its true man
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>>146539700
>Black To The Present
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>>146539700
>Gowasu's Infinite Wisdom

Is "infinite wisdom" will consist of saying ZAMASU! really loud while Zamasu ignores him.
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>>146539700
#64: Unexpected arrival, Son Gohan!
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>>146539763
The new god forms, and this pink SSJGJSGJSGJSJGSJGSJ shit is the cancer that killed DB
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>>146539763
Sounds like it's gonna be the best arc since Namek desu.
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>>146539866
>being this retarded
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>>146539833
>>146539763

GOHAN
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>>146539529
>Archived
Kill yourself, faggot.
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I want to protect his smile.
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>>146539946
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>>146539915
Maybe in the manga but not the anime.
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>>146539832
ZAMASU!
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>>146540033
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>>146539700
>Black To The Present
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>>146539700
>Black to the Present
Nice
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>>146539367
zamasu is bottom, he made goku black as an excuse to get some ningen's cock in him
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>>146540033
>>146540104
Okay, now show us something this bad in the current arc.
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>>146540033
>it's the manga fag again
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>>146540104
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>>146539700
>#62: Omni-King's Button
>#63: The End of All
>Z warriors get BTFO
>somehow they summon Zen-chan by accident
>he mistakes Black for Goku, Black is mean to him
>fucking disintegrates his ass right there
>still the first villain that actually won over the Z warriors

Make it happen.
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>>146540127
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>>146540153
>>146540104
At least show the blu-ray versions, you fucking autistic cunt.
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>>146540044
I doubt that Gowasu has that face and name by pure coincidence
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>>146540153
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>>146540175
goku is such a retard.
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>>146540198
>>146540203
goku is such a retard in the DBS anime
ftfy
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Where's the Anons that wanted to fuck Zamasu
I want to know what you would do in detail
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>>146540186
I usually call him FEELS kai
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Best villain since Freeza.
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>>146540203
>can't drive or comb his hair
>can only be 'normal' when people force him to do so and constantly remind him
>everyone is apologizing for him
>makes all situations super awkward for much more important guests/visitors
>the only other person that understands him is an equally autistic child
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>>146540411
Best DB villain period.
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>>146540436
>that hand
>those fingers
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>>146540430
>can't drive
Nigger what
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>>146540430
>>can't drive or comb his hair
Why the fuck would he bother driving when he can fly? And Saiyans' hair never changes from the day they're born. Nothing he can do about that.
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>>146540503
Beat me to it.

>>146540430
You're retarded btw
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>>146540498
Cut the artist some slack anon, he's doing this shit for free
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>>146540503
but can he do that in super? I mean we know he can read and write due to Roshi training but in super he needed pictures to know what to buy at the grocery store. he has regressed in intelligence in Super by the looks of it.
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>>146540430
Goku can drive.
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>>146540411
Agreed

>>146540436
Nah
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>>146540582
Fuck you kid.
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>>146540430
>>can only be 'normal' when people force him to do so and constantly remind him
>>everyone is apologizing for him
>>makes all situations super awkward for much more important guests/visitors
>>the only other person that understands him is an equally autistic child
See >>146540264
>goku is such a retard in the DBS anime
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>>146540614
>but in super he needed pictures to know what to buy at the grocery store.
Toei filler, Jesus how do you faggots not know this?
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>>146540678
Making Frost evil was a mistake.
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>>146540723
>blaming every complaint on toei filler
shut up
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>people desperately trying to defend goku's intelligence

He's living autism, just admit it and move on.
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hi
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>>146540792
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>>146540761
Tbf, he did bash his head against a rock as a baby.
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>>146540759
Except it is dumbass Toriyama only did the outlines for the Champa arc and the Future Trunks arc. Most of the slice of life and that Jelly Vegeta were filler, speaking of which see how it's ignored here?

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-05-09/dragon-ball-super-anime-starts-future-trunks-arc-in-june/.101915
>The new arc follows the conclusion of the "God of Destruction Champa" arc

Becasue it's filler.
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>>146539832
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Fucking zamasu posters. Your funny meme is just another baneposting wanna be.
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>>146540919
The anime is canon. Fuck off.
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>>146540614
Nigger what?

He knew how to use a fucking smartphone dude.

Goku only seems like a retard in Super because of one very specific writer who likes to make him seem like one. And he handles a large amount of episodes, so we're stuck with his portrayal.
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>>146540986
You're stupid kys
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>>146541012
>He knew how to use a fucking smartphone dude.
5 year olds know how to work smart phone that isn't an accomplishment.
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>>146540981
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>>146541058
>kys
You must be 18+ to post on this site
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>>146540678
>Goku is SOOOOOOOO smart in the DBS manga

Yeah, you retards can shut the fuck up now.
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>>146541112
>post a pic of him passing a test to prove he is stupid
You're the stupid one Anonymous
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About 10 more episodes until DBS is as long as DBGT
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>>146540847

People who say this are wrong Goku was naive during the early stages of Dragon Ball because he was raised away from civilization not because he was dropped on his head, the only thing that did was change his personality.

Toei has just flanderized him, hell they're doing the same to Ussop in the One Piece anime.
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So I just realised there's more evidence to suggest Black is the new God of Destruction after Kaioshin and Beerus died.

Beerus, Champa, Whis and Vados are all alcohol puns, now:

>Black
>As in Schwarzbier, black beer.

>Super Saiyan Rosé
>As in Rosé Wine.
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>>146541174
>Goku struggling with basic maths
>he still only gets 50%
>this means he's smart
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>>146541112
>putting words in my mouth
Top kek whatever. Nothing is wrong with that and it's way better than >>146540614
>but in super ANIME he needed pictures to know what to buy at the grocery store. he has regressed in intelligence in Super ANIME by the looks of it.
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>>146541202
Black is the god of destruction and zamasu is his whis

That´s why he obey him.
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>>146540264
Goku asked Gohan if Videl was a boy or girl in the fucking Buu Saga

Goku has always been a retard.
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>>146541289
But the roles are reversed for Beerus and Whis. Whis is the one who obeys while Beerus gives the orders.
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>>146541058
>kys

Underaged mangafag pls go. You shit up every single thread with the same fucking posts and webms. At least change it up a bit so it's not that obvious that it's you. We get it, you like the manga better. Then stick to that and stop shitposting in every DBS thread.
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>>146541273
>he had pictures in his list
>This means he NEEDED those pictures, he couldn't read at all despite the fact that he read something out loud and counted to 50k in the same series!!
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>>146541327
>Goku asked Gohan if Videl was a boy or girl
See >>146541201
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Lads. If Beerus and Champa fuse they'd be Cheerus or Cheers
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hi again
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is there anyone, I mean anyone in the history of /a/ more smug than both of these pompous motherfuckers right here?
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>>146541347
>he had pictures in his list
>This means he NEEDED those pictures
Then why else is the list in pictures instead writing dumbass?
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>>146541448
Have you forgotten that this series is aimed at kids you fucking retard?
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>>146539367
At first I thought Black was top... but then again, he seems to enjoy pizazz and showmanship, and he seems more bottomish to me. Also, I'm sure Zamasu loves feeling in charge over Filthy ningen Goku's body.
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>>146540981
I can't help it. I love gowasu saying zamasu.
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>>146541448
Maybe it's Chi-Chi who doesn't know how to write?
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>>146541474
>he read something out loud and counted to 50k in the same series!!
Are you fucking retarded? What difference does that make?
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>>146540436
His face looks like Spikes from Cowboy Bebop
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>>146541504
I could see that being the case. She is a hick too after all, probably why she's so obsessed with education.
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Black connected to Zamasu in the same way Beerus is connected to Shin

Black = God of Destruction of U10
Zamasu = Kaioshin of U10

Zamasu gets promoted to a kaioshin. Intrigued by Goku, uses the time ring which can only go to the Future. He somehow takes over Future Goku's body in Otherworld and turns him into his own God of Destruction.

I feel like that's the main reason they introduced this concept of linking the Gods of Destructions to Kaioshins. Also this way they don't have to kill both of them.

That, or Toriyama plans on killing Beerus.
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>>146541474
>this series is aimed at kids
>so Goku's grocery list has to be symbols instead of writing
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>>146541369
This happened in the Buu Saga. Not in the early stages of DB
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>>146541671
Black is temporarily a kaioshin. He's wearing the potara earing.
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>>146541695
When did Goku EVER receive a single day of formal education?
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I'll be very mad if Trunks didn't reach SSB this arc.
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>>146541202
>>146541671
Did you steal this from Sawyer7mage's comment section?
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>>146541781
He got a bit from Lunch.
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>>146541743
And?
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So, I am playing ketchup with whole Dragon Ball franchise and finished 10 movies.

I literally don't understand Broly's appeal and apparently he's pretty big among fans.
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>>146541789
Why should he?
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>>146541858
MOOSLES is Broly's appeal
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>>146541858
His power is maximum
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>>146541657
She just doesn't want her kids to be retards like her and her husband. Although she does mention that she reads lots of romance and home life magazines which is where she got her dated views on what being a housewife is.
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>>146541858
He's a big guy and his power is maximum
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>>146541926
>>146541939
He got beat by 7 years timeskip Gohan.

7 years timeskip Gohan.
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>>146541858
> I literally don't understand Broly's appeal and apparently he's pretty big among fans.

He's a big dumb brute, that can only say "Kakarot". I don't get it either.

It doesn't help that his whole reason for vengeance is because a baby cried next to him when he was also a baby. How does he even remember the exact baby that cried? And his name?

I guess people like him cause he's buff. And that he's the "Legendary SS" despite being weaker than Cell
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>>146541962
Lel, no he didn't. He was kicking Gohan's ass.
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>>146541781
Dude follow the argument probably before you jump in. Also
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>>146542003
>despite being weaker than Cell
>Cellfags actually believe this
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>>146542003
>He's a big dumb brute, that can only say "Kakarot".
Dubfag spotted
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>>146541962
Also Videl tanked a fucking clothesline from him without getting decapitated. Broly is an always was a joke.
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>>146541962
Pretty sure the ghost of Goku descended from the heavens and saved the day.

I'd also like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that Bio Broly did absolutely nothing wrong and was just defending himself after Trunks and Goten tried to murder him in cold blood.
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>>146541858
I watched the Broly movies almost 10 years ago and it was fucking amazing at that time. I'll probably hate it if I rewatchrd it now, you are too late to the party I guess.
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>>146541858
>I literally don't understand Broly's appeal and apparently he's pretty big among fans.
His fans are retarded man childrens seeking a power fantasy self insert.
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>>146541858
Remember when GT/Brolyfags theorized that Magetta was Broly under the armor?
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>>146542062
That dress looked absolutely lovely on Videl.

And with dat up collar, unf.
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>>146542062
>He thinks Broly was being serious in the least
lmao what a retard.
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>>146542049
Maybe not in M8, but he only said "Kakarot" in M10

Even in Japanese. Retard.
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>>146541327
Not exactly true besides Videl with short hair is easy to confuse.
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STOP SEXUALIZING ZAMASU, FUCKING NINGENS
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>>146542230
nah
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>>146541327
>>146542207
>animefags fucking up as usually
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>>146542230
subarashii~
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>>146542152
GT/AF/Brolyfags are the worst
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>>146542047
> Cell: Needed SS2 to beat him
> Broly: 3 Kamahamehas from SS1s

Not to mention Broly can't regenerate from a single cell core like Cell can. It doesn't help that Gohan didn't go SS2 against Broly in M10.
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>>146542379
gohan was using ss2
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>>146542207
And later Goku offered her to the old kai for sex
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>>146542379
>It doesn't help that Gohan didn't go SS2 against Broly in M10.
Yes he did, you fucking retard.
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>>146542195
Why are Brolyfags so delusional?
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>>146542207
I think I take back what I've said about Videl in the past, based on that page she does retain her personality post haircut, in the manga at least.
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>>146542514
Videl lost her personality after Spopovich wrecked her.
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I WANT MORE OF THIS IN DB SUPER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Which DBwaifu has the best body?
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>>146542592
Piccolo.
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>>146542592
Piccolo.
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>>146539367
I don't know, but I know Zamasu is the one taking it while spouting hateful Ningen comments.
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>>146542592
Oolong can have any body
So Oolong
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Toriyama is senile.
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>>146542479
>Brolyfag
I don't give a shit, you're just being an idiot.
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>>146542653
Only for 5 minutes.

I pity any man who can bust a nut only after 5 minutes.
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>>146542592
WHEN BRAAAAAA!?!?!?
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>>146542453
No he wasn't

Gohan was only SS1 in M10
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>>146542474

> another delusional brolyfag

See: >>146542727
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>>146541184
At least it's not as bad as GT

>inb4 "it's worse"
Nothing was as bad as GT
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>>146542727

They didn't add electricity due to being cheap. One bang is SSJ2, 2 bangs is SSJ1.
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>>146542727
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>>146542592
18
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>>146542834
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>>146542715
So sometime within the year after Pan is born.

Pan: Age 779
Bra: Age 780
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>>146542539
What's this from?
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Why couldn't Frost turn into Golden Frost? Was Freiza just the most powerful natural being in all universes?
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>>146542868
Why couldn't Cabba turn into SSJB?
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>>146542535
She was ok in the movies.
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>>146542760
>Another delusional Gohanfag
See
>>146542815
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>>146542849
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>>146542790
They change bangs all the time depending on who's drawing.

SS2 = Spikier hair than SS1 (if possible) + lightning sparks
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we can all agree Yaijirobe is gonna be Vegeta's savior? Maybe he can got Mai in the process
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>>146542927
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>>146542592
>those hips

Goddamn Chi Chi, I guess doing martial arts gave her a god tier body. And seeing how she did that massive jump during the Goku vs Frost fight, she's probably still in decent shape. If only she didn't wear all that baggy clothing.
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>>146542959

Look at her tits, now
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>>146542592
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>>146542911
That doesn't mean anything. If there wasn't lightning in the movie (even if it planned, but possibly scrapped), he did not go SS2.

>>146542943
Yes that's SS2 because it has lightning. M10 Gohan didn't have that.
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>>146542855
The ROF Trunks special.

>Trunks special
>99% of new scenes are redrawn namek saga ones
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What if black is goten and zamasu is broly?
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>>146542592
Chi-chi's chi chis.
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>>146542592
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>>146543025
Launch is like two women in one. It's just not fair.
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>>146542790
People complain about recolors...but changing an SS form with a difference of only one hair bang is ok?
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>>146543050

He went SSJ1 when he Kamehameha's Broly. He had two bangs and a softer expression. He was a SSJ2 against Broly in their initial fight. The same shit happened when he fought Dabura and Fat Buu. He was a SSJ2 but in the anime they skipped the electricity.

Please stop it.
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>>146543120
>>146543050


SSJ2 hair gets spikier and their expression gets more intense as well.
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>>146542727

I read somewhere that each villain introduced after another is stronger.

So basically Cell>Broly1
Broly2>Cell
FatBuu>Broly2
Janemba>Fat Buu

so on so forth
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>>146542959
I don't get how she hasn't gotten wrinkles/aged really. I mean she's just human, saiyan's age very slowly, but she's late 30's yet has the skin of a teenager.
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>>146539700
Once you go black you never go back :^)
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this WHEN???
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>>146542959
I like that super keeps Chi-chi's super jumps, since that's kind of the only martial arts thing she canonically does. I wish they kept her buu personality though. She finally chilled out and they got rid of it.
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>>146542959
>I guess doing martial arts gave her a god tier body

Pretty much. Unfortunately even if she wore tighter/revealing clothes, thanks to the current art style of Super for females she wouldn't really look that appealing. The girls used to be a lot more thicc as seen in pic related and >>146542849
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>>146542715
When F.Trunks and F.Mai returns back in time for F.Trunks to participate in the Universal tournament
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>>146543317
She's asian, anon. Apparently her chest has lost its bounce, according to Goku.
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>>146543345
>The girls used to be a lot more thicc
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Why was Bulma a lot of people's first fap? She wasn't very sexualized in DBZ
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>>146543301
That interview only showed the logic they used for movie villains
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>>146542894
no Beerus to inspire him, just Champa
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>>146543317
Same reason why Bulma looks young as fuck despite being older than Chi Chi. Also there is Bulma's 70 year old mother who looks like she's in her 20s.
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>>146543379
Goku was just making up shit so he could whore out Gohan or Vegeta's waifus rather than his.
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>>146543449
Did you not watch dragon ball?
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>>146542539
>>146542855
huh
thats a better translation of the actual manga panels than the original anime had
especially that nice blindside kick
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N35NrEPdOg&feature=youtu.be

Goku Vs Frieza OVA scene
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>>146542783
continuity wise, it's leagues above gt, but some of the super saiyan god/super saiyan blue x10 kaioken and Beerus and now Zeno pisses me off. Goku wouldn't stand for this shit, countless races being destroyed and yet he's chummy with Beerus.

I don't like that idea of powerlevels this retardly high/enemies so strong that Goku can't do shit about.
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>>146543503
IN THE ORIGINAL WHICH PEOPLE DIDN'T GROW UP WITH YES, BUT IN DBZ WHICH PEOPLE GREW UP WITH SHE WASN'T SEXUALIZED, YOU FUCKING RETARD
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>>146543449
She was in DB though.
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>>146541202
I've been saying this in all these threads but Super Saiyan Rosé is NOT a god form.

Black is naturally God Ki (like Beerus dark purple aura) and combined with the Light, Regular Saiyan form (which he copied from fighitng goku) it kinda mixes and becomes this rosé color
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>>146543231
And lightning
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>>146542539
Nope you'll take your 2fast2furious punching spam, constantly reused frames of animation and you'll like it DAMN IT.
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>>146543528
Calm the fuck down. When I was a kid Dragonball was on Toonami too. Take your caps lock off.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iETcS7mAV8U
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>>146543528
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>introduce Beerus as the strongest being in the universe
>suddenly Whis is stronger
>suddenly his brother is equal
>suddenly Whis sister is stronger
>suddenly a melon kid is THE STRONGEST OF THEM ALL
>suddenly melon kid's buttler is one of 5 strongest beings in the multiverse, stronger than Whis
>suddenly you can kill Beerus by killing a shitter
>Beerus is nothing but a comedy relief now
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>>146543472
Reminds me of the episode of DBZA.
Bulma: Mom, why don't you age?
Mom: Your father won't let me.
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>>146543709
Welcome to Dragon Ball anon.
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>>146543709
>Beerus would still smash Goku with his tail
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>>146543709
>>146543526
This is my biggest gripe. Retardedly high powerlevels make it all feel like there's no hope or point.

Any big villain could get one shot by Zeno. Any hero gets one shot by Zeno.
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>>146543749

L-Lewd...
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>>146543466
stop posting this picture it arouses me
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>>146543165
Okay. Show me where in M10 when Gohan was SS2.

Also Gohan didn't have sparks in the manga against Dabura. But that's besides the point. I'm talking about M10
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another Vegebul's moment when??
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>>146543775
>Tfw hate Beerus but like Kaioshin so you don't want Beeurs to die even though you do
JUST
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>>146543769
zen-chan is best boy so not a big deal
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>>146543528
I love DB, but christ this fanbase sometimes.
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>>146543853
What causes a "man's" taste to be so shit, I wonder?
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>>146543913
you talking shit about Zen-chan?
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>>146544004
No, I'm talking shit about you, dumb dumb
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>>146543797
For fuck's sake, pic related.

From the time he transformed to the time he finished his fight with Broly ending up in lava and reverting back to his base form he was in his SSJ2 state.

Afterwards he transformed into a SSJ1 when he had his final confrontation with Broly during the beam struggle with Goten. Hence the two bangs and softer eyes.
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>>146543853
While he's happy. We haven't seen him when he's mad (and according to Whis it wasn't even a big deal, just something didn't go his way).
-Destroyed 6 universes effortlessly
-Everyone fears him knowing he can do this if he's looked at the wrong way.
-Threatened to kill his loyal subordinates for wanting to Goku to show him respect.
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>>146543775
there's a lot of champa porn just saiyan
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>>146544110
Don't bother arguing with powerlevel kids. He just like Omni King because he's strong. They don't have the capacity for this sort of thing, they just get on their knees for the strongest.
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>>146543881
I wonder if Krillin fucked Bulma during their trip to Namek? He must have some pretty strong willpower to resist when she was walking around in her underwear the entire time.
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I wonder how many kids Roshi has.
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>>146544305
Bulma was such a cocktease.
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>>146544305
Bulma has some standards man, she's not desperate.
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Where should I start watching/reading from if I only want to follow the Goku Black arc?
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>>146543336
See
>>146543361
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Quick Bulma and Chi-chi from memory before class, although Bulma doesn't really look like herself.
Might come back and draw more later.
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>>146544456
Dat bulge.
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>>146544448
You'll want to start with the Hit vs Vegeta fight, and watch the two movies before that. Then you can fully appreciate the job Vegeta does against Black.
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>>146544292
I honestly think it's just terrible. Zeno trivializes any feats if he can literally destroy universes on a whim.
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>>146544531
the vegeta vs other saiyan fight was alright. you could start there.
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"I can't tell you the source because it's insider information, but he surely got turned off and reluctant to keep being involved with Super, so they had to provide him with some basic ideas for the plot of the new Goku Black arc."
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>>146544421
>she's not desperate

This is the woman who dated Yamcha.
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>>146544480
Ayy, pretty good anon.
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>>146544339
He's been senile for at least 200+ years. So any children he may have had have died.
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>>146544644
>Zeno trivializes any feats
same with the dragon balls being able to fix any and all problems, takes away most if not all tension. how new are you to DB?
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>>146539367
YAOI Doujins when??
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>>146544718
he has had to score a couple of times during DB, Z, and super.
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>>146544339
I wish we got to see more of young Roshi.
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>>146544711
And dumped him before he became the joke of the franchise.
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>>146544711
>Qualcuno
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I wish Trunks had come back to the past fused with someone else wearing Potaro Earrings.
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>>146544305
Why would she like krillin? He's a manlet and she has only ever known him as a manlet.

Yamcha at least was handsome when Bulma first saw him.

Not saying Yamcha > Krillin, just that it made sense why she liked Yamcha at that time.
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>>146544724
Trivializing feats =/= Trivializing consequences

Sure, death is no biggie and the tensions been non-existent since the show's beginning, but at least we didn't have the sense that a being could wipe out all existence and no one could do shit about it.
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>>146544829
To be fair, Bulma is a majorly thirsty slut. I'm surprised she didn't try to molest poor Gohan
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I want to fuck the kai
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Prologue
The door to the Room of Spirit and Time opened without a sound.

My father Vegeta rose as if he’d been plucked up, and started walking to the door. I suppose he’d been waiting impatiently. He stared straight towards the door, not making eye contact with Piccolo-san, who was on his way out.

I continued to stare at my father’s back as if in a trance. Then suddenly I was driven by an impulse to run after him. Wouldn’t father disappear into that endless space the moment he entered the door? I had that feeling.

The door closed again without a sound.

Looking back, I think it’s always been like I was chasing after my father’s back. From when I was still very little, it’s always been that…
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>>146544761
He's literally impotent. He may be immortal, but he's still got the body of an old man.
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>>146544913
who doesn't?
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I Want To Know About My Father
From my earliest memories, Vegeta-san was already dead.

Piccolo-san, Kuririn-san, and the others were likewise defeated in the battle with #17 and #18, the artificial humans that Doctor Gero had made. I didn’t even know my father’s face. This was because there wasn’t even a single picture of my father in my house. I don’t know if there weren’t any originally, or if they burned when #17 and #18 attacked Capsule Corporation. I thought about asking my mother Bulma about my father countless times, but it didn’t feel manly to do so, so I never asked.

Death became such a common thing there in the future that I even got used to it when I was very young. Everyone locked their sorrow deep within their hearts and picked their words carefully, not having the composure to drag that out.

One day, my mother took me to Gohan-san’s house. When I saw how his room was decorated here and there with pictures of Gohan with his parents, I suddenly became very lonely. I couldn’t take my eyes off one of those pictures.

It was a picture of Gohan-san and his father. Son… Goku-san…

Perhaps I was drawn to the aura of a full-blooded Saiyan that he had, and the aura of a father. Because that was something my own father would surely have had.

Then, I heard a loud noise like “Ga…pii“. Gohan-san was adjusting the radio frequency. Both the television stations and radio stations had been destroyed by #17 and #18, and a pirate broadcast called “Artificial Human Report” was our sole source of information.
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>>146544815
Original Character, Do Not Steal
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>>146544895
please each arc a magical even more powerful foe comes out of literally nowhere. making the last arc feel even less. thinking there aren't others in the universe that make Goku and Friends look like jokes isn't that crazy
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One day, my mother took me to Gohan-san’s house. When I saw how his room was decorated here and there with pictures of Gohan with his parents, I suddenly became very lonely. I couldn’t take my eyes off one of those pictures.

It was a picture of Gohan-san and his father. Son… Goku-san…

Perhaps I was drawn to the aura of a full-blooded Saiyan that he had, and the aura of a father. Because that was something my own father would surely have had.

Then, I heard a loud noise like “Ga…pii“. Gohan-san was adjusting the radio frequency. Both the television stations and radio stations had been destroyed by #17 and #18, and a pirate broadcast called “Artificial Human Report” was our sole source of information.

“What is it Trunks? You’ve been pretty quiet today.” Realizing that I was looking at the pictures, Gohan-san spoke up.

“This person is your father, isn’t it?”

“Yeah, that’s right”

I looked at the photo together with Gohan-san.

With his gentle smile, that person didn’t look like the “incredibly strong person” that my mother Bulma had said he was.

“Is it true that he was strong?”

“Ahh…”

“Stronger than Gohan-san?”

“… Ahh”

At that time, I didn’t believe that anyone existed who was stronger than Gohan-san.

Still, Gohan-san had faced the artificial humans on his own, and continued to fight them. They said that he got the scar that ran from his forehead to his cheek in a battle with #17. I thought that scar was a cool-looking medal, and revered Gohan-san.

There’s no way there’d be any other person capable of doing that, even if you searched through the entire Earth. Even if it were Gohan-san’s father. Because even my father, who I heard was prince of the Saiyans, had been defeated by #17 and #18.

Because of that photo, I became obsessed with wanting to know about my father. Just what kind of person had he been?…
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>>146544909
I'm sure she sees Gohan as a kind of nephew figure.
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>>146544909
Gohan was five, even sluts have limits.

She definitely would have if Gohan had been ten years older.
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>>146544913
>>146544964
Sexualising Kaioshin-sama is completely unforgivable.
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>>146545017
Is this an incestuous fanfic?
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My Mother Bulma’s Memories
Late that night, after being troubled, I slipped out of my bed and went to mother’s laboratory.

Not noticing that I had entered, my mother Bulma had all of her attention wrapped up in working on the time machine prototype. Once the time machine was completed, she intended to send me to the past and give Gohan-san’s father medicine that would cure his heart disease.

“If Son-kun just hadn’t died from his heart disease at that time, then I think the world wouldn’t have ended up like this.” That’s what mother had told me when she began researching the time machine.

But mother, what I wanted to learn about then wasn’t Gohan-san’s father, it was my own.

Unexpectedly, I spoke up behind my mother’s back.

“Mother, what kind of person was father?”

It looked like mother was a little surprised, but her eyes immediately sparkled and she smile. With #17 and #18 continuing the destruction and slaughter every day, it had been a very long time since I had seen that smile.

“Your dead father? Ye~ah, he was strong and stern, and lonely… and he also did a lot of bad things… there’s no doubt that he’s in Hell right now.”

“Hmm.”

“But he also had good things about him. He was very proud, and not the kind of person to show his gentleness, but… I could tell.”

At that time, I didn’t really understand things like pride or loneliness, but I could at least tell that my mother had loved my father.

“Am I… am I like him?”

“Now that you mention it, are you like your father? Let’s see…”

My mother stared fixedly at me, and I felt a little awkward.

“Yes, you really do resemble him. Particularly your ambiance and… that mean look in your eyes is just like him. But don’t worry, you’re a lot more handsome than he was.”
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>>146544964
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>>146545047
delete this
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As they went on talking, my mother’s eyes flashed with anger when she realized that the man’s motivation was simply to save himself. But the man didn’t notice, and looking at mother indecently, he said:

“How about it, Bulma-san? Why not join up with me and use the time machine to go somewhere in the past or future were the artificial humans don’t exist? If it’s money you want, I’ve got tons of it. I wouldn’t let you be destitute…”

In that instant, the man flew through the air and crashed through the window, landing outside. He certainly hit the ground before he had time to even be surprised.

“I’m building this time machine for the future of everyone, not trash like you. I’ll tell you something else, since you’re such a hopeless moron: what’s needed in the world now isn’t money, it’s this.” Mother declared this as she showed her slender but muscular arm.

“It might not be any use against the artificial humans, but it’s plenty useful against petty scoundrels like you. If you want, I’ll show you one more time.”

“H-hhheee~~~~~~~!!”

At the sight of the man running away at full speed, I clapped my hands in joy. I rubbed my noise and cried “Serves you right!”

Vegeta-san must have undoubtedly been an amazing person to have stolen the heart of my strong-willed mother.

The prince of the Saiyans, and at any rate a strong and stern person…

I yearned for and at the same time was fearful of the father who I had never met. From that time onward, my father became my goal. Though it was only in my imagination, the image of my father that appeared when I closed my eyes was always from behind for some reason. Every time, he would always be standing straight up, and never look back. Only wishing to become strong, father advanced forward and forward…
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>>146544999
It's fine for them to be totally outclasses, but a being that literally wipes out universes is retarded.
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You Are the Last Hope…!!
Several years passed. Wanting to defeat the artificial humans no matter what, I trained with Gohan-san every day.

Even in the midst of training, as usual my objective was my father Vegeta, who would float into my mind. Once I managed to catch up with my father and see his face, then surely I would be able to defeat #17 and #18. Somewhere in my heart, I believed this baseless thing. One day when I was thinking this, I gently confessed it to Gohan-san. Just like I thought, Gohan-san didn’t laugh at me, but earnestly listened to my story.

I muttered while looking down from the mountain at the half-ruined city far below.

“But instead of me catching up to him, it looks like father is rapidly leaving me behind.” At the time, I was irritated at myself for being unable to become a Super Saiyan, no matter how hard I tried.

“Don’t worry, you have Vegeta’s blood. You’ll soon be able to become a Super Saiyan, absolutely!” Gohan-san’s smiling face encourage me.

“But I really understand how you feel…”

“Eh?”

“I made this dōgi thinking… that if I could become as strong as my father…” That dōgi was an old design, but it suited Gohan very well.

“Son… Goku-san, right? Mother tells me that it always surprises her how when you wear that dōgi you look just like Goku-san.”

“But I guess there’s no way I would be just like him in power… hahaha…”

Even while he was laughing, Gohan-san’s eyes were too quiet, and I became somewhat sad.

What happened next I can’t forget, even though I want to. My insides feel as if they were being pressed with a hot branding iron, and the feeling won’t go away. Even now, when much time has passed, it still aches sometimes.

—There was an explosion
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>>146544913
Come on Anon, you can be more detailed than that
HOW would you fuck the kai
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With a thunderous roar, the area was enveloped in a terrific flash of light, and as it lasted there was smoke and explosions here and there. The artificial humans had come again to attack the city.

“Da-damn it… I, I won’t let them get away with this any longer…” A golden ki blazed up from Gohan-san’s entire body, and he became a Super Saiyan.

“Trunks, you stay here, all right!!”

“No! If you’re going, so am I!!”

Though I cried this desperately, Gohan-san’s answer was a karate chop that he brought down upon my neck.

In my dimming consciousness, I thought that I heard Gohan-san’s voice.

“Trunks, you are the last hope…”

By the time I regained consciousness, everything was over.

The moment I saw Gohan-san’s corpse lying stretched out in a pool of blood screams and anger and frustration and tears swelled up in my body like a surging wave. That instant, fire ran up my entire body. My muscles trembled, and my blood vessels burned.

When it felt like all of my blood exploded at once, I became a Super Saiyan for the first time—.

From there, I began training all on my own. I hid Vegeta-san’s form and Gohan-san’s voice saying

“You are the last hope…” deep in my heart.
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On the pirate broadcasts, it seemed like every day reports of the artificial humans would stream in, but I didn’t try to do anything pointless.

To avenge Gohan-san, Vegeta-san, all those killed by the artificial humans.

I needed to definitely be above them in power. I knew that if I fought without knowing that for sure, I would only die needlessly.

The screams of those attacked by #17 and #18 echoed in my mind, but I repressed my impatient heart and absorbed myself in training. I could only think about becoming strong, becoming strong, becoming strong.

Oddly, when I began training on my own, I felt that the distance between my and the image of father that floated in my mind shrunk immensely. I took this as proof that I was doubtlessly doing things correctly.

As for my mother Bulma, it seemed that she intended to finish the time machine and send me into the past. However, I was secretly intent on defeating #17 and #18 on my own.

“Won’t it be all right this way?” It took me three years to be able to think that way.

However, I was too naive.

On the day mother finished the time machine, I was fought with the artificial humans and was severely beaten. It was nothing short of a miracle that I returned alive.

When I regained consciousness in the hospital bed, my mother glared at me angrily.

“… Really, trying to fight them all alone no matter what; you’re just like your father!!”

Then she shed two tears. My mother, who was always strong and hardy, who could easily send a man flying…

Immediately after my injuries healed, I resolved to ride the time machine. My goal was 20 years in the past. My objective was to give Son Goku-san his medicine, allowing him to survive.

Before taking off, wishing for my journey’s success I wrote “HOPE!!” on the time machine. This was the “hope” from Gohan-san’s words… “The last hope…”

“I’m going, mother!!”

“I’m counting on you, Trunks!!”
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>>146544698
This is sad if it's actually true. I suppose it makes sense, because Zamasu and Black kind of feel like they might not be his original concept. Toei must have fed him most of the ideas for this entire arc, then.

Why don't they just stop pissing off Toriyama?
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>>146545161
VICIOUSLY
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With mother’s reassuring words, I entered the time machine.

My First Tense Experience… With Father
Right from the start, things didn’t go as planned. Because I hastily killed Freeza and his father, my plan of only meeting Goku-san went amiss. I was worried about not changing history, but for me it was a happy miscalculation.

While we waited for Goku-san’s pod to land, I had trouble with the fact that my gaze kept going over in Vegeta-san’s direction. Meeting my father for the first time, just like mother said he was a person who was strong, proud, stern, and seemingly lonely. And startlingly, from behind he looked just like the father from my imagination.

“What are you staring at so intently? If you really are a Saiyan, then I shouldn’t be such a rare sight.”

Naturally I was startled when my father Vegeta spoke to me.

Controlling my throat so that I wouldn’t unthinkingly reply with “Because you’re my father…”, all I did was apologize with a “Sorry…”

Nevertheless, it was a strange feeling. My father was alive, my mother was young, Gohan-san was more of a kid than I was… what’s more, the way the mother and Kuririn-san talked noisily with everyone was completely like it was a family.

For me it was all new. I realized that I was smiling. I was surprised that I was smiling, because I hadn’t smiled since Gohan-san was killed by the artificial humans three years ago.

My mother Bulma worried about me, and tried to tell me joke to make me laugh. I tried to laugh, but it was no use. People who carry a sadness like a bullet in their chest cannot laugh. That’s all I could understand. I thought maybe I’ll never laugh again.
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>>146544820
Then he wouldn't be Trunks.
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At any rate, I was smiling. The past was incredible. It was a world where noble friends talked together underneath a blue sky. I didn’t want this world to end up like my future. This I strongly wished.

Meeting Goku-san for the first time, he was stronger and more reliable warrior than I had thought.

“Perhaps this person just might change the future.” The light of hope burned in my chest.

When I came again, the past had various points of difference from the past I knew. The time that Goku-san came down with his heart disease was different, and there weren’t just the artificial humans #17 and #18. On top of that, their power was also far above the ones that I had known.

I don’t know if the reason that history changed so much was due to me, or possibly due to the monster Cell who had come from even more distant future than me. Anyhow, I did what I could to fight alongside everyone.

My second meeting with my father Vegeta was the worst. When my mother Bulma and my baby self were going to be killed by Doctor Gero, father did nothing to save them even though he was nearby.

If I hadn’t saved them, they certainly would have died. It drove me up the wall. I demanded of father why he hadn’t saved his wife and child.

“How worthless… I’m not interested in those things.” My father Vegeta answered with a cold smile.

He then soon flew off towards Doctor Gero’s laboratory. He went in order to fight the artificial human, ignoring everyone else’s desire to destroy #17 and #18 before they awakened.

My father who I had yearned for since I was very young, who had been my aspiration… the retreating figure of my father that I had always chased after… was smashed to smithereens…

At that time, my mother’s voice repeated in my head.

“But he also had good things about him. He was very proud, and not the kind of person to show his gentleness, but… I could tell.”

I-it’s a lie… He doesn’t have any good in him!! He’s rotten to the core!!
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hated my father.

He’s an unpleasant person. However, I won’t let my father be killed by the artificial humans a second time… Two contradicting emotions whirled around in my head.

I immediately went after father.

“How long to you intend on following me? Get lost, you’re annoying me.” Father said this to me as I flew behind him.

“I can’t do that… You’re underestimating the fearsomeness of #17 and #18.” I was determined to not let father die. Tasting the loneliness of losing my father just once was enough.

However, there was no way I would inform father of my identity. Feeling impatient, I tried to change father’s mind as if my life depended on it.

However, it was pointless.

“Hmph…for pure-blooded Saiyan, the stronger their opponent is, the more they want to fight them.” This was father’s answer.

“A pure-blooded Saiyan…?!” My father actually said this then. That the stronger their opponent was, the more a pure-blooded Saiyan would want to fight them. Those were the words he threw at me. If that was the case, then father would have to know that I wasn’t a pure-blooded Saiyan.

It was then that I realized it. Father didn’t save mother because he knew that… I was his son.

“To further surpass Super Saiyan.” I was shocked by those words. To tell the truth, I had never thought of trying to do anything like surpass that.
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>>146545217
Anon, come on. One word isn't enough.
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If Super Saiyan could be surpassed, then even I… Simply asking to train like that, it wouldn’t be a waste of time, even if father refused me.

For three days, I stood on a rock looking at father’s back. That view of his back was the very thing that I had pictured when I was very young.

I wanted to catch up with that back. To catch up to him and face him from the front. I once again resolved to do that. However, even now I still haven’t reached that goal.

Even as I spent one year with him in the Room of Spirit and Time, father completely ignored me. Despite this, I became conceited in thinking that I had surpassed father in power. I believed that I could definitely defeat perfect-form Cell, who not even father had been able to beat.

Using a transformation that relied on power, I killed my speed. My father Vegeta had understood that, and had not dared to use that transformation.

However, being the fool I was I used that transformation, and was defeated by Cell. On top of that, Cell even pointed out by mistake to me, and I made an unbelievable fool out of myself.
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>>146540264
>expand dong
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Epilogue
Twenty hours have passed since my father Vegeta entered the Room of Time and Spirit.

Father will soon come out again. Being my father, he will probably be brimming with confidence that he can defeat Cell. Even though I already have a one-step lead on him.

But someday, I will definitely catch up with father! If father’s ultimate goal is Goku-san, then my goal is father!!

When I am able to look at father’s face head-on, and have him look back at me, then that will be when I am able to grant my wish from when I was very young. Even if that has to be on a battleground between father and son…

Without a sound, the door slowly opens.
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>>146545083
thats hot
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>>146545306
my body does the talking
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>>146545097
>offering money to a Briefs
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>>146545231
Yeah, he'd be like Trushin or Kabito Trunks or something.
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>>146545396
would you cum in him, or on his face
do you think he has a dick
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>all this lewd Kai art
I didn't think anyone liked them enough for fan art.
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I have the other two stories Toei published, but not in text form.

I guess I can dump the images with the translation if anyone wants it.
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>>146545222
this shit is bad, please stop, no one wants to read your fanfiction
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>>146544988
is this canon?
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>>146545396
>sexualizing a kaioshin
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>>146545496
dont worry zamasu, your time will come
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>>146545480
It's not fanfiction and it's not mine, either. It's official matterial.
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>>146545347
That was interesting, thanks for posting anon.
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>>146545462
there's a small dedicated community that comes out from obscurity every now and then
but there's still not enough
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>>146545475
Fuck it, I'll post it anyway because these stories are good and more people need to be aware of them.
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>>146545739
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>>146545458
cum IN the kai
Id like to hope he has a dick
>>146545496
youre next
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>>146545771
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My wife
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>>146545805
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>>146544456
Noooo, my eyes. Get away from Mai, you blue faggot. Don't hug her. I hate this so much, why not pair him with someone else? Shu and Pilaf are so cute in this pic, tho.
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>>146545835
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>>146545825
a shit
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>>146545876
Next is Vegeta's, which I think is the worst out of the 3.
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>>146541093
>Goku and gang get their shit wrecked by Black and Zamasu.
>Goku laying there dying.
>Little trinket falls out.
>Black looks at it and picks it up.
>Pushes button.
>This little fucker appears.
>See his friend laying there half dead.
>Asks whats going on.
>Black attacks him like an idiot while Zamasu realizes who it is.
>He kills them fucking both.
>GOKU YOU GOT SOME EXPLAINING TO DO FUCKER!
>Takes them back to their time.
>Wipes out the excess time lines.
>Trunks is fixing to be wiped out along with Mai.
>NO WAIT PLEASE DON'T!
>Ok, ill make him a time cop, deal?
>Tells everybody to not fuck with time again or he will wipe out the universe.
>Beerus does goofy faces.
you will never thrust your cock into Beeru's ass while he whimpers for more and you try and tell yourself you are a straight male.
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>>146545848
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>>146545906
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>>146545825
gohan a cute
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>>146545941
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>>146545988
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>>146546019
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>>146545848
>why not pair him with someone else?
because they're the best pairing
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>>146546061
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>>146540981
He works for the ningen, the blacked man
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>>146545781
the more details you give the easier it would be to write a fanfiction or draw something just saiyan
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>>146540411
>>146540436
>literally a brainwashed goku
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>>146546096
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>>146545848
Best girl should be with best boy.
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>>146546137
And that's all of them.

I hope someone enjoyed the stories as much as I did.
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>>146545926
>trunks is fixing to be wiped out along with mai

uh, if anything it would be goku and friends' timeline which would be wiped out if that is the case.
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I didn't want to create a totally separate thread for this buy doesn't it bother anyone else that they literally could of had the perfect story arc and reason to tie in the Freeza and Universe Tournament Arcs together.

They literally could have just not done the whole time reversal thing and had the remaining survivors from the explosion head to Beerus planet and then introduce Champa, the concept of the Super Dragon Balls and an actual reason to fight and win the tournament utilising established characters mean something again.

It actually fits in with all the character motivations including Beerus (beating his brother and getting food out of it by wishing earth back with the Super Dragon Balls). Champa could even of had Freeza on his team if the creators really wanted to reuse the characters assets.

Fuck I am getting so irrationally mad at how it could've been so much better, Instead they totally waste the Golden Form Freeza, devalue the purpose and the grandeur of the Super Dragon Balls (Which they fucking used to Wish EARTH BACK TO BEGIN WITH ANYWAYS).

I really hope they wont absolutley fuck up the Black story arc with another Deus Ex.
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>>146544061
> pic related

Except that's fucking SS1

Try harder faggot
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>>146545927
>>146546162
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>>146546270
How fucking stupid are you? One bang is SSJ2. Goku and Vegeta were SSJ2s when they fought but there's no electricity here. By your logic they're SSJ1.
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>>146546378
doesnt even matter because ssj2 isnt canon
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>>146542196
Not until you lie dead at his feet
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>>146546341
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>>146546378
They had electricity throughout most of that fight

Try again
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>>146546430
>>146546509

Uh-huh, sure.
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>>146546430
>ssj2 not canon
I know you trolling but that triggered me.
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>>146546504
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>>146545927
>>146546065
>>146546162
>>146546341
>bringing her back just for this
>forces them together with a new arc when Toei tries to remove the pairing from the anime
>people eat it up like crazy

It is like watching my favorite painting being tainted by a black ink while the culprit is smiling at me with a smug face.
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>>146546680

Well to be honest, I am smiling when I draw Mai lewds.
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>>146539832

All I keep thinking is

"Unlimited Zamasu Works"
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>>146545064
CANON?
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>>146546680
>It is like watching my favorite painting being tainted by a black ink while the culprit is smiling at me with a smug face.
How is it like to have autism?
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>>146543775
That's horrifying
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>>146546767
It's written by the same person that wrote History of Trunks so take that as you will.
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>>146546558
>>146546570
literally everything past frieza is non-canon
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>>146546793
Wel, at least I'm not jerking off over a fictional pairing. :)
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>>146542715
I think Bulma is carrying her already?
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>>146546912
Probably is. Too much drama going on to tell Vegeta.
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>>146546226
Goku and the orginal time line would be saved thanks to Goku now being play buddies with the Omni-chan, and the only way to correct the situation or laws broke is to destroy the splintered time lines created by Trunks first adventure back in time.

We allready know that the creators mentioned it would tie in a bit with Xenoverse games, so I wanna assume "since there is such a small population on Earth left in the time line they currently are in" that they will all be spared and given jobs in the time dimension for time cops.

It would make sense at least.
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>>146542042
...is Goku reading incest-rape stories?
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>>146546891
everything past cell is non-canon for me.
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>>146543841
soon anon, soon.
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>>146546673
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>>146544061
Buu Saga Gohan actually had 2 designs as a SSJ1. The first one is shown when he's training with Goten before the tournament, the other is introduced when he sees Videl getting beaten up during the tournament and it's the only one used from that point on. The later design is also used for his SSJ2, the only difference are the sparks.
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>>146544698
>but he surely got turned off and reluctant to keep being involved with Super

Would this make the Black arc not part of Toriyama-canon if they're feeding him ideas and he's now just reluctantly a part of Super at this point?
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>>146544480
nice anon.

also from memory?
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>>146545210
>>146547077
>falling for that bullshit
wew
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>>146544305
>>146544421
>>146544711
>>146544798
Vegeta was the only one that could quench her thirsty fires apparently.
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>>146546907
>not jerking off to Chinese cartoons
Why are you even on /a/?
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>>146542042
I want any Goku to read that to me
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>>146544796
He was already a joke actually.
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>>146542704
Pfft watch me I can do it in 30 seconds.
15 if it's a Monday.
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>>146547056
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>>146543379
What would Chi Chi do it Goku secretly took the dragon balls and wished she was ~20 again?
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>>146547113
It's not bullshit. A moderator on Kanzenshuu said that, they're the most trustworthy DB site.
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>>146547273
complain that he's not making enough money and the kids aren't focusing enough on their studies
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>>146544480
Oh, very nice! Have you been watching Super, too?
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>>146547274
Sure faggot.
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>>146547274
It wasn't a moderator, just a long time user. Kei17's generally trusty worthy and has given information directly from Japan before since he lives there, but there's no history of leaking behind the scenes information like that.

Kei17 also only posted it after the Black arc had been revealed, even though it was revealed later that Toriyama had been working on it since September/October. Considering how close to the source you'd have to be to know that, I think it's pretty natural to question it. Now, if Kei17 had hinted at it before the official reveal of the arc it'd be a different matter, but that's not the case.
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>>146547143
To discuss anime, of course.
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>>146547225
>grasping at straws because tori is shit at drawing ssj transformation hair designs.
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>>146547449
>btw trunks I'm like 50 years old
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>>146541671
> le serious Whis face

evil Whis WHEN? when will the best character of Dragon Ball Super have his own arc?
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>>146547449
Let's discuss this.
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WHEN BRAAAAA!?!?!?!?
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>>146547599
Whis is already evil. The whole upper Pantheon in Dragon Ball is pretty much evil.
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Question: why does Zamasu go from thinking humans are worthless and should be destroyed, to humans are dangerous after his fight with Goku? Does he think he fought a human? Cuz someone should tell him that a Saiyan is not a human.
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>implying Trunks x Mai isn't the only sane thing Toriyama has done since forever
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>>146547639
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>>146547690
He's using Ningen as a catch-all term for the residents of the lower realms
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>>146547690
Nigel means mortal
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>>146547719
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>>146547719
*Ningen
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>>146547715
>>146547719
Ah I see, subs I was reading lost that in translation. Thanks, anons.
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>>146547711
>gi with no blue shirt under it
delete this
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>>146547607
Something about Zamasu, man.
He reminds me of that person. The guy who never stops talking about mankind and judging it, ignorant to the fact he might not be qualified to judge an entire species. The type who is either some crazy animal lover or tree hugger.
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>>146547756

No anon, she wants to be free. She doesn't wear panties either.
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>>146547756
His best designs have no undershirt
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>>146547813
heresy
>>146547826
its okay to be wrong, anon
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Why is Goku so /fa/?
I'd say this is his second most fashionable outfit, right after Yardrat clothes. Third is End of Z Goku, of course.
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>>146547826
I wish Goku was still using this gi in the current arc.
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>>146547826
why did that senile hack toriyama go back to the old desings after the fucking tournament?
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>>146547826
I liked this one the best, manly because King Kai is one of my favorite characters
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>>146547826
and dont even get me started on those shitty boots whis gave him jesus fuck
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>>146547908

Toei wanted them back in their regular outfits
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>>146547942
I bet Raditz would have had only girls. I don't know why, but I can just feel it. Like, he'd have two or three girls and no boys.
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>>146547908
Arc actually started being animated before the new designs so all promotional materials were ready before they changed into new clothes.
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>>146547986

More disappointment for him I'm sure.
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>>146547986
Why would Raditz want weak fighters?
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>>146547420
dont trust anyone on kazenshuu, the whole site gone to shit and the admin only cares about discussing sale numbers. The site has like ten people online daily at most.
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>>146547993
>>146547942
is the manga also using the old designs?
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>>146545210
>1
Why doesn't Toriyama just fuck off and stop being the George Lucas of Japan?
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>>146548039
I think he'd be down for the harem like based Nappa suggested. Or he'd settle down with someone and hope for boys who get that sweet halfie potential only to have girls. But they'd all be qt, so it'd work out.
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>>146547986
This is a plebby question but do we even know pure Saiyan females exist?
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>>146548073
You fuck off.
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>>146547699
It's amazing how DB couples are random, yet they all work out really well (except for only Lunch x Tien, I think)
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>>146548089
Gine, Goku's mom, existed. But she died.
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>>146547658
Whis gave Zamasu the exact location of Goku planet.

He didnt have to do it, he still did it even tho they were there to determine if Zamasu was a villain.
Now Zamazoo has snapped and will be coming to get Goku, and when he arrives, Goku wont be there. He is in the future, which is a crime.

What will Zamasu do when he cant find Goku? What every other villain does, he will kidnap one of Goku kids
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>>146548089
Either Father of Goku or Dragonball Minus are canon, and they feature femSaiyans so yeah.
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>>146547908
>>146547986
>>146547993
FUUUUUUUUCK SHIIIIT. But I liked more their new outfits, specially Vegeta's. Goku's looked really really good too. It also helped gain an identity that this was DBS and not just DBZ.
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>>146548057
>>146548153


Yeah anon.
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>>146547901
Xeno Goku is fucking sexy.
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>>146541671
This will never not be stupid.

Buu almost killed kaioshin too like nothing. Why Beerus allows that? A Whis tier guardian should be protecting Kaio at all times.
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>>146548057
The manga has been done longer than the animation and is published so that Jump keeps ownership of the current arc ( and its associated designs).
If there was no Manga, Jump wouldnt have a claim in it and it would be all Toei. Theres some business side shenanigans going about there to keep copyrights going.
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>>146548107
You know I'm right.
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>>146548089
The only canon one we know is Gine, but she is dead.
Also, keep in mind any possible pure Saiyan female that might appear from now on will be from U6 and therefore won't have a tail. It sucks.
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>>146548142
But the next titles are none related to that I wish tho
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>>146548199
Beerus was asleep
Whis doesn't really seem to give much of a fuck about Beerus, he's constantly trying to replace him
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>>146548199
I don't think there's any sense to it. It's just to explain why Beerus isn't in Trunks' timeline.
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>>146548199
Beerus was asleep and it should have been obvious by now that Whis hates Beerus.

When Zeno-sama showed up Whis ratted him out to the one guy that is able to erase people with a thought and he has been trying to get Vegeta to replace Beerus as a God.
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>>146547368
Of course. It's all right.
>>146547081
Yes. I draw chi-chi a lot so I remember her design better.But Bulma changes frequently so it's hard for me to really think of her design from only memory.
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>>146548274

Why does Whis hate Beerus, anon?
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>>146548288
Because he's an annoying arbitrary cunt. Does anyone like Beerus except for loser autists?
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>>146548245
xenoverse2 has shown the picture of black and said he would be a preorder exclusive but that they cant use his name because it was a spoiler.

Since "goku black" wouldnt really be a spoiler im guessing he might be "Goten( Possessed)"
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>>146548288
hes a fucking cunt that sleeps all the time and eats everything

Whis seems to be forced to serve him even tho he's stronger than him, but he doesnt seem to like him one bit. I have no idea if its a situation where Whis is actually forced to serve him or if Whis position is simply to have decent destruction Gods on the position.

He also threatened to tell vegeta that Beerus was working with freeza when planet vegeta was kill.
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>>146548288
I get the impression it is mutual, really.
Deep down Beerus dislike Whis just as much as Whis dislikes him.
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>>146548321
>>146548375

Does Vados feel the same towards Champa?
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>>146543050
Toriyama has said Gohan was SSJ2 in M10. They were just too cheap to add in the electricity.
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>>146548416
Delicious thick legs.
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>>146548322
>Retards still pushing this theory
Wew
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>>146548288
not that guy.
Vados openly hates Champa while Whis seems more indifferent towards Beerus (but then again Whis is more of a nice person while Vados is more of a bitch), but both of them tried to snitch to Zeno on their respective Gods of Destruction.
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>>146548322
>xenoverse2 has shown the picture of black and said he would be a preorder exclusive but that they cant use his name because it was a spoiler.
Source on that?
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>>146548416
Probably moreso. And Champa hates her but frankly he couldn't survive without her.
>Vados will never take care of you and passive aggresively poke fun at your lifestyle
>Vados will never humiliate you in front of your colleagues
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>there are people in this thread who think black isnt goten
Ill hug the stupid out of you
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>Dragon Ball Fusions doesn't have SSJGSSJ Gogeta/Vegitto
Do you know why? It's because they're saving him for this arc
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>>146548484
people just being retarded and making things up
super is not even licensed that's why black doesn't have a western name
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>>146548322
Man let's hold hands for that Also how the fuck are we suppose to live when after this week ep we have to wait 2 fucking weeks more to know the truth of all this shit
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>>146548322
Here's your entire 3 spike hair theory debunked
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>>146548564
Does it even have Vegito? I was looking at a list and I never saw him.
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Is there anywhere to download the DBZ BD's?
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>>146548639
No, but the EX Fusion is like the Potaro in that it fuses the clothes, too and is permanent until cancelled. So it has EX Gogeta instead.
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>>146548670
What
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>>146548484
I dont have the source anymore, a fellow anon linked to it on a previous thread. You can however check all promotional material to see that they always refer to black as
"an exclusive playable character featured in the new Dragon Ball Super anime series,"
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>>146548686
Yes but Ex Gogeta has wildly different clothes, and 50% of Vegito is the clothing design. I would have thought at the very least they'd throw him in as a separate unit like Gohanks.
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>>146542539
I know i want more of this very very badly but the animarion team for the movies doesn't seem to be the animation team for Super :( it made rewatching BoG and RoF really frustrating and rof was already useless filler material.
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>>146548618
what 3 spike theory?
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>>146548720
Its posted already >>146548568 and as the post rightfully points out, its almost certainly because this is western promotional art and saying "Goku Black" would draw many faces similar to what you can see on the left here
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>>146548174
I like this costume just not for Goku. It's just too busy for such a practically guy.
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>>146548741
It is a bit odd. I'm not sure why, either. Kabito Kaioshin is in, too.
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>>146548833
>Got a sack for his senzu beans
>Wristbands to give him wristband power
>Rope for his power pole
Not really seeing the business, desu. Except for the flowing bottom part seems pretty practical
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>>146548568
"Featuring Black From The Dragon Ball Super Anime Series"
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>>146548787
People have a theory that Goten is Black because Black has three hair spikes and Goten has three hair spikes
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Tell me about Goku

Why does he wear the wristbands?
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>>146544305
sauce?
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>>146548937
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>>146541446
anyone have the unedited version of this?
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>>146548989
ZAMASU
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>>146548987
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>>146548989
ZAMASU!
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>>146549031
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>>146548937
Kinda makes sense, the animator is going to have character models that they have to follow and if a character has to stay in model most of the time, their hair will have the same number of spikes.

Dunno if that proves Goten is black, unless black has hair different from goku in the same show, then that would be done on purpose.
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>>146548969
It's called "Aim at Planet Namek" Be warned though, the quality and the translation is shitty.
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>>146548521
Did Goten learn the ability of being able to possess bodies? Because Black is using Goku's body.
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>>146549153
stay deluded, filthy ningen
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>>146548984
I see. You have convinced me. Thanks bro.
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>>146548962
He has really chronically sweaty wrists. It's disgusting.
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>>146542815
Post a clear scan, can't read shit in that pic.
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>>146545475
>>146545941
For what purpose

These stories aren't even canon, right?
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>>146549126
>Kinda makes sense
It really doesn't. Goten wasn't even born in Trunks' timeline.
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>>146549246
Prove it
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>>146548937
Checks out. Does dbz go off model a lot for the hair?
Is there any chance Black has three spikes by accident, or is he consistently three spiked?
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>>146549246
He doesnt really have to, Zamasu knows where Goku lives because of Whis, Zamasu can just take the kid with him and use his rings to go into the alternate universe and just possess the shit out of him.
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>>146549031
thanks
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>>146549194
I'm deluded for thinking Black is possessing Goku's body?
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>>146549306
The only reason to do that is if he's afraid Goku is going to try to kill his Destruction God ( the one that he'll be linked like shin and beerus) and wants the God to be someone Goku is reluctant to kill.
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Rank the canon villains.

Freeza>Black>Vegeta>Piccolo Daimo>Cell>Tao>Buu
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>>146549355
yes
because its goten in gotens body
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>>146546430
Technically he's right, the name of SSJ2 isn't canon, at least in-universe. Goku only calls it SSJ2 once, and in the context of "this is my first transformation, super saiyan, this is my second transformation, the next level let's call just call it super saiyan 2"

SSJ2 is actually Super Saiyan Grade 5, official in-universe canon-wise, making SSJ3 Super Saiyan Grade 6 and for GT SSJ4 Super Saiyan Grade 7
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>>146548125
Fuck off, Chi Chi x Goku is shit
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>>146549393
in some european versions they would have different names. Super sayan=> ultra sayan=> Mega Sayan
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>>146549390
Black said it was an honor to fight Son Goku in the body Black was using.

That clearly implies he's using Goku's body. Why would a certain body matter if Black was Goten all along. It would be his own body and thus have no need to even mention being in a body at all.

Are all goten fags this retarded?
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Anime

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

>I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.

>Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.
>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-introduction/

>I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.

Manga

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

>Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
>Toriyama: That’s right.

>Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
>Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!
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>>146549265
Prove what? Goku died years before Goten was even conceived in this timeline.
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>>146549270
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>>146549382
Beerus > Freeza > Black > Vegeta > Boo > Cell > Babidi > Tao > Piccolo Jr > Piccolo Daimao
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>>146549146
let the research begin
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>>146549437
>Black said it was an honor to fight Son Goku in the body Black was using.

Nothing in that says it has to be Goku Body, it can be "your son body" or even "The body you've given me"

thats a pretty flimsy claim brotater
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>>146549232
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>hurdurrrrrruerh XDXDXD
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>>146549470
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>>146549478
>Beerus
>Villain
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>>146549550
>>146549527
>>146549470

Design errors, see

>>146549522
>>
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>>146549440
So manga is more canon than anime, heh
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>>146549527
Is that Goten stealing kid Goku's body?
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>>146549440
>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!

Yep Toriyama seems really reluctant.
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>>146549522
what does it say about goten hair? Anyone can translate?
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>>146549589
No, the announcer was realizing that Goten looks like Goku
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>>146549420
Chi-chi x Goku is fine. The bickering just makes it cuter when they're getting along.
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>>146549478
>Beerus
>Good
Nice shit taste kid
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>>146549600
Also
>I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.

>I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.

Kei17 a shit
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>>146549519
He said he wanted to try fighting Goku in that body he was using and it was an honor to do so. Why would he talk about his own body like that? It clearly points to him possessing a body.

Goten fags are delusional.
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>>146549586
See >>146548618
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Reminder that anyone who pushes the "Black = Goten" theory is a retard who isn't worth your time.
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>>146549714
>Goten fags are delusional.
>goten having fags
please its shitposters.
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>>146549744
remain upset
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I'm looking at my screen and I still don't get it

Can someone explain the three hair thing?
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Here's a Toriyama drawing of Goku from 2015
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>>146549720

This is Super now, now DB. He will always have four now.
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>>146549842
I'm not, just pointing out that you are mentally insufficient.
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>>146549871
4 spikes now. Toei done with 3.

>>146549821
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>>146549883
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>>146547420
He made a post on June 2nd mentioning that "even Toriyama was pissed by super" with the quote up thread. Maybe he always knew about it but didn't want to spoil anything until news actually came out?

Anyway, if Toriyama is actually sad about Super then that really stinks. It could be more than just animation, Maybe he also hates the story arcs too or something, but that's hopefully not the case.
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>>146549969

3 for Goten, 4 for Goku. Toei wants to distinguish the two so Jap kids don't get confused. Same with Trunks and Future Trunks having different colored hair.
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>>146549871
It's interesting having seen toriyama's art going from, round and expressive, to Sharp and detailed to more of a leaner style with pastel colors.
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This is the most retarded theory I've heard since 6v1.
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>>146549857
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>>146549704
Kanzenshit are a bunch of faggots
Spic forums >>>>>>> Kanzenshit
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Black can't be Future Goku simply because Future Goku is DEAD

Why is Future Goku being dead relevant? Well, the only "body snatchers" we have are Buu and Ginyu, Buu can't absorb dead bodies, I'm pretty sure this was stated somewhere and Ginyu can't take over dead bodies. So from the limited body snatching knowledge we have, we can conclude that Black cannot be Future Goku (or his body)
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>>146550040
you'd have to be a huge retard to mess up goten and goku when they're on screen together.
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>>146549265
Not him, but Goku died 3 years before the androids appeared, and them appearing is 1 year after Trunks was born.
In the timeline we watched, Goten was born after the Cell game.

Unless Goten is older than Trunks and no one has ever mentioned him, seems like he wasn't born.
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>>146549787
Excuse you. I wish I could punch Toei in the face to bring back Goten. Goten should be love and life
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>>146549969
Keep being mad, faggot.
Animation has character models, if a character spends ninety percent of their time on screen having four spikes thats what his model calls for.
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>>146549969
Toriyama really likes those shoes huh, bet the old geezer can't tie his own shoelaces.
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>>146550032
>>146550075
If you think hair strands are proof of anything, you seriously are a retarded moron. Also see
>>146549744
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>>146549704
>Kei17 a shit
This. Seems like anyone can claim to live in Japan or that their dad works at Toei and everyone will think their bullshit is true then.
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>>146550040
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>>146550180

Stay mad, anon.
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Both Turles and Bardock interestingly have four spikes

Goten is Black confirmed?
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>>146550130
Keep being retarded, retard.
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>>146550114
come on gotenbuddy, He is not black and won't be relevant this arc or the next.

which pisses me off how they wrote him out of the arc. "muh schooling" jesus chichi leave the poor boy alone.
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>>146550032
Its funny because with all the bickering from the guys claiming the idea is stupid the explanation of the spikes made me understand and agree about Goten being Black. Its more likely than it being Goku or the character model would be the exact same for them.
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>>146550213
You just disproved your own theory. Nice one.
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>>146549623
Like pottery
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>>146550027
It might be just how they adapted it. I don't dislike most of the concepts from super, but I'll say that the implementation has been less than desirable. Especially considering Toei still goes at a snails pace despite not having to worry about catching up to a manga and the fact that all the characters have been flandarized quite a bitl
>goku's stupid, chi-chi is way more bitchy than even peak Cell saga Chi-chi, Gohan's jobbing increased to the highest level.
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>>146550234
>>146550266


I'm not the anon who thinks Black is Goten. I'm just saying Goten has three hair spikes and Goku has 4 now.
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>>146550180
stay mad faggot
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>>146550114
>>146550231
It pains me that Goten does more in the opening than in the show.
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>>146550231

>>146550303
Gohan, too.
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>>146550215
Character sheets brah. No one designed Black with three spikes by accident. Everyone of those characters was designed that way and is animated always the same way ( when they are not, its off model, but its easy to tell when its off model if most of the time they are drawn one exact way)

Black has been shown with three spikes most of the time so thats his on model look, and that didnt happen randomly.

Only cucks like
>>146550224
would think that this kind of thing is just a random happenstance
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>>146550288
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>>146550288
too late anon, I beliebe in you now.
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>>146550342
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>>146550384
That's not Goten though, that's Goku Jr.
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>>146550384
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>>146550342
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>>146550384
>Goku Jr is Black
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>>146550299
Is that all you can say? Your dumbass theory keeps getting debunked and now you can only resort to repeating yourself over and over. The mental hoops that retards like
>>146550337
jump through to push the theory are amusing.
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Has Future Trunks interacted with Goten at all? Has Goten even seen Black?

If no to both of these then prepare for a big ass plot twist
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A-Any Gohanfags in here?
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>>146550421
I know Anon. Maybe Black is Goku Jr and he's mad that Zeno-chan deleted GT
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Why don't you all just kill yourselves?
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>>146550463

ChiChi refuses to let him visit Trunks, anon. She wants him to study for his exam.
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>>146550472
Why you use SSJ4 when you can use God ki and be infinitely stronger
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>>146550463
The plot went out of the way to have Future Trunks be unaware of Goten, Chichi forbid Goten of meeting him.
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>>146550494
That would be funny as fuck.
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>>146550494
This. Toriyama make it happen
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>>146550526

Cause that's the GT universe anon
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>>146550544
>The plot went out of the way to have Future Trunks be unaware of Goten
Or, more likely, no one cares about Goten.
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>>146550384
>>146550454
>>146550545
>>146550555
Please fund it
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>rely on 3 hairs even though there is proof Toriyama has drawn Goku with 3 recently
>ignore Black saying he wanted to fight Goku in that body, which implies he is possessing Goku's body otherwise there would be no point in mentioning that line
>ignore the fact that Trunks said that Black called himself Son Goku when he first arrived
>Ignore Goku being dead in Trunks timeline, thus preventing Goten ever being born
>ignore the fact that Trunks and Gohan never mentioned anything about Goten
>In order to get around the fact that Trunks and Gohan did not mention Goten at all, make up story about Goten being kidnapped as a kid even though there would be no reason for Goten to be kidnapped seeing as Trunks who is the same age as him and thus as vulnerable as him, survived and Bulma was perfectly able to raise him in the android era

Goten fags
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>>146550494
I'll allow it.
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>>146550557
>Heroes differentiates between GT and Super
Wait so have GT and Super Goku ever met?
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>>146550584

I bet my hand virginity that Black is Goten, you stupid fuck. I fucking bet it just like that Gohanfag.
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Do you think Krillin or 18 will ever train Marron? She's already stuck in the same time hole that's preventing anyone from aging but even in end of Z and GT she was just a girly girl. Which is odd to me, that even though Krillin and 18 aren't fighting life or death anymore that they didn't at least teach her some fighting. Fighting is basically Krillin's whole life. At least teach that girl how to fly and use the Kamehameha.
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>>146550623

They're aware of each other but don't really interact unless you use them in gameplay.
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>>146550584
see >>146550082
Future Goku is DEAD

Unless you use the Dragon Balls I'm pretty sure a dead body is DEAD and USELESS
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>>146550463
They didn't meet because F Trunks wouldn't give a fuck about Goten. He even barely interacted with kid Trunks.
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>>146550514
Its kind of ironic cuz Trunks being the child of the Briefs family. He must have the best teachers and shit. They could study together and I bet it could be free. Because it is for the pilaf gang. But nooo I don't understand wtf Chichi is thinking
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>>146550647

Probably not. Flying most likely. It's up to 18 and if Marron is interested. Going by EoZ, probably not.
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>>146550514
After all he's missing out on this arc I'm gonna be so mad if he doesn't come home with an A.
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>>146550584
>In order to get around the fact that Trunks and Gohan did not mention Goten at all, make up story about Goten being kidnapped as a kid even though there would be no reason for Goten to be kidnapped seeing as Trunks who is the same age as him and thus as vulnerable as him, survived and Bulma was perfectly able to raise him in the android era


Why would Zamasu need to kidnap android saga Goten?
He can just kidnap the present Goten when he shows up searching for Goku. Whis gave him the address.
They sent everyone strong to the future, the present is completely helpless for an enemy the level of Zamasu. He can just walk in and rape Gohan.
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>>146550584
>rely on 3 hairs even though there is proof Toriyama has drawn Goku with 3 recently
Not before the Black arc

>ignore Black saying he wanted to fight Goku in that body, which implies he is possessing Goku's body otherwise there would be no point in mentioning that line
No, it implies that he's not using a mortal body anymore, he's now a God.

>ignore the fact that Trunks said that Black called himself Son Goku when he first arrived
Goten has no identity and decides to steal the identity of the person he looks up to the most. Since Goku would have been dead in the future timeline, he would have been that figure that Goten always strived to be.

>Ignore Goku being dead in Trunks timeline, thus preventing Goten ever being born
Goten could have been conceived any time before the androids attacked since the entire arc only lasted 2 weeks. Plus, Trunks returning to the past could have caused Goten's birth to be postponed.

>ignore the fact that Trunks and Gohan never mentioned anything about Goten
He could have been presumably killed whilst Trunks was a baby and Gohan never mentioned him because he didn't feel the need to.

>In order to get around the fact that Trunks and Gohan did not mention Goten at all, make up story about Goten being kidnapped as a kid even though there would be no reason for Goten to be kidnapped seeing as Trunks who is the same age as him and thus as vulnerable as him, survived and Bulma was perfectly able to raise him in the android era
Trunks doesn't look like Goku.
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>>146550513
Far too easy. The best way to punish myself would be to slowly go through life having to live with the shame of being me.
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What is the best sub group for Super?

Batman? Kami?
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>>146550494
Maybe that's why Black is tanned
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>>146549704
>I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime
>complained about the quality of the TV anime

Isn't he talking about Super though? Or is it that comment he made about the anime making Goku more heroic?
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>>146550837
Dragon Team and Batman
>>
THEORY TIME

The reason why no one in Super is aging is because it is all a dream. Goku is actually in a coma. The events of Super are all in his head. This is why all the bullshit and plotholes like Goku being injured by a laster happen. Black represents the evil Goku was meant to be until he hit his head, the evil that possibly still lurks within deep. The reason why Super has that nostalgic tone with the music and the laidback atmosphere is because Goku is reminiscing about his early days. Same reason why Frieza is revived.

GOKU IS IN A COMA CONFIRMED
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>>146550837
Dragon Team is the best but Batman is good too for speed subs
>>
>>146550890
>>146550897

Theres no Dragon Team for 56 yet right? Just want to show my friend SSj Rose
>>
I had no idea Gotenfags even existed until this thread lmao.
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>>146550752
>After all he's missing out on this arc I'm gonna be so mad if he doesn't come home with an A.

He'll get at least a B
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>>146550681
>I don't understand wtf Toei is thinking
I know deep down this is just a contrived reason for Goten to not be around. Because there's so many things that don't add up about that moment.
1. Chi-chi wouldn't let Goten help Goku with farm work but WOULD let him just sit around watching farm work for like several hours
2. Says that he got an F on a test when we've never once seen Goten go to school and since Chi0chi's been decidingly more lax with him.
3. Even if all that is true, goten AND Chi-chi have managed to both be out of the storyline, never even interacting with future trunks who's been there for like...3-4 days at LEAST. No matter how much studying Chi-chi wants to do for whatever reason she'd be pretty happy to see trunks is back and to introduce him to Goten.
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>>146550811
You dont really need to go that far even. If Zamasu is picking Goten, its because he thinks Goku wont be able to defeat him.
He could have picked the Goten from present times and taken him with him into the alternate universe. Using the green rings he can arrive at some time in the past and prepare his training and empowerment of "Goku Black", he could even brainwash the shit out of him convincing him that hes a God now and he has to fullfill his duties against the shit ningeen.
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>>146550940
Yeah not yet. Go with Batman then.
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>>146550958

They show up every now and then anon. But now that we're in the Future timeline, they're reappearing. Along with Vegetafags and that one Gohanfag.
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>>146550962
>Goku
>no Chi-Chi

WHO'S THE IRRESPONSIBLE PARENT NOW
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>>146550966

I don't think Goku's VA would be able to handle voicing Goku, Gohan, Goten, ChiChi, and Black. Maybe that's why they're not in the plot?
>>
hi
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>>146550584
I don't care if in the end Black is just a brainwashed Goku but this little fuck doesn't even have good fanarts to look at. Its like when I wanted mgs fanarts before phantom pain about bigboss and kaz but there was none
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>>146551035
Pretty much this.
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>>146551012

Surely she's taking the picture? RIGHT?

>>146551039
Hello?
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>>146551003
Vegetafags and Gohanfags get BTFO all the time. It'll be fun to see Gotenfags hide in their little corner again lel.
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>>146551071
>Hello?
wanna hold hands_?
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>>146551035
She doesn't voice Chi-Chi anon, and she's done plenty of scenes with Goku, Gohan and Goten together. According to interviews, she can switch from one voice to the other without having to stop the recording.
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>>146551082
hey everyone, its that one faggot that kept insisting that Future Mai was dead and then slinked off to his corner when she wasnt! Lets all give him a big hand and remember that his parents think he wont ammount to anything other than typing "lel" in an anime board for nerds!
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>>146551082
The worst of all are Gokufags though

Pure cancer

Please deport yourselves to Japan with that shit taste
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>>146551096
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>>146548969
how old are you, 4?
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>>146551096
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>>146551138
What? I don't give a shit about Mai. Don't get so salty Gotenfag. Lel.
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>>146551035
its a reasonable point but at the same time they should have thought of this before of all this clusterfuck
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>crisis of infinite grannies screeching
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>>146551313
>implying Nozawa's voice isn't pure sex
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Reminder that Future Goku is DEAD
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>>146551313
>tfw Raditz isn't voiced by her but Bardock and Turles are
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>>146551377
they used to future super dragon balls or namek balls to resurrect him, should be obvious
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>>146551377
And Black is possessing his corpse.
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>>146551374
>Making me think of Nozawa and sex
You monster.
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>>146551411
From what we know possessing DEAD bodies is impossible unless using the Dragon Balls
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SOMEONE MAKE A NEW THREAD QUICK BEFORE THIS IS ARCHIVED
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>>146551480
MAKE IT!
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>>146551480
Then make a new one faggot.
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>>146551313
Her serious evil voice is soothing as fuck. First heard it when Goku goes SSJ3 in Fusion Reborn.
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>>146551549
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>>146548283
draw one with Bulma from the future and the vegeta of the current arc.

I think it would be intereting if they revived the folks that black killed and she happened to see Vegeta and they talked.
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