How much value do you put into visual direction?

>>146535784
>there are people who genuinely prefer the newer version of HxH

>>146535784
A lot, that's why '11 was shit.

>>146535861
Right genuinely looks better and less cluttered.

>>146535784
I miss anime made with paper instead of Adobe Flash, you can feel the details and the depth.

>>146535784
I was always told to avoid the old version of hxH

Jesus Christ why? It looks really good

Why do the hands swap in both?

>>146536204
Paper was also responsible for things like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf1PtgIds4I

>>146536100
Left looks much more detailed and interesting

>>146536204
A lot of the "texture" is from the film.

>>146535784
the visual not so much but the OST is the most valuable for me.

the OSTs in hxh were just perfect

>>146536303
I hope you weren't listening to /a/
Dear God, why would you ever listen to /a/

>>146536303
Save for a few scenes like the one in the OP, it's a pretty subpar adaptation, especially since it completely butchered the manga; it's really nowhere near as consistent as the 2011 version

>>146535784
There's definitely something wrong Killua's face in the 1999 version.

>>146536545
Fucking this. People prefer the 1999 version usually out of nostalgia or because they like grimdark shit.

>>146536545
>>146536683
oh thanks anons

>>146536531
Well meme'd.

>>146535784
Here we go again

>>146535861
>There are people who are overly nostalgic over a version which had lots of filler, some of which was horrible

They both have their good points. Both are definitely above average. If you hate either, you are retarded.

It's certainly a lot more important than forced animation

Is it an age thing?

1999 is so much superior. How can you argue otherwise?

What's even going on in the pic?

I never read the series.

>>146536723

Yeah most people that prefer the 1999 version nitpick the same exact scenes every single time and a majority of the scenes come from the first arc. Most people can agree that the 2011 version of first arc + the first episode (for skipping kite) was a trainwreck

But other than that, the only legitimate complaint is that the OST utilized terribly. They use their better track not enough, and too many of the tracks are played way too often. Someone will cough the puppeteer starts playing.

>>146537400

I actually kind of liked a bit of the filler as someone who switched from the 1999 version to 2011. Made you grow more attached to the characters (Ponzu and Pokkle) who didn't get that much development which made what happened in the chimera ant arc all the much worse.

>>146537688

Nen stuff?
I dunno, the series is stupid.

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>>146536545
>especially since it completely butchered the manga
>2011 fags can say this after the shit they pulled in the Killua Rescue arc and FUCKING SKIPPING KITE

>>146537506
>1999 is so much superior. How can you argue otherwise?
By cherrypicking, just like OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8M5NIB6KXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQRIvyuij6g

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>>146535861
>>there are people who genuinely prefer the newer version of HxH
I prefer the newer version because the characters stayed true to ther manga selves -especially Gon- instead of the story turning into a Kurapika fanfiction because the director wanted to bone her

>>146537712
>Yeah most people that prefer the 1999 version nitpick the same exact scenes every single time and a majority of the scenes come from the first arc.
You weren't here when the 2011 anime was covering Yorknew

>>146537770
Is the 2011 anime suppose to look better or are you just bad at this.

>>146537712
>Yeah most people that prefer the 1999 version nitpick the same exact scenes every single time and a majority of the scenes come from the first arc. Most people can agree that the 2011 version of first arc + the first episode (for skipping kite) was a trainwreck

How can we compare something that doesn't exist. The only later arcs of the older version was GI ovas. And they're not great. The industry was transitioning to shitty modern animation.

> But other than that, the only legitimate complaint is that the OST utilized terribly. They use their better track not enough, and too many of the tracks are played way too often. Someone will cough the puppeteer starts playing.

Other than OST, character design are questionable in the 2001 version. Weird proportions.

>>146537789
>I prefer the newer version because the characters stayed true to ther manga selves
>Gon forgetting Kite
>Making shit even more gayer than they were
>The movies

You fags can't win

>>146537770

Both are shit. Pretty sad, it's pretty interesting arc.
Watch HxH until York Shin arc only.
GI ovas started to use "modern" animation.

>>146537894
>>Gon forgetting Kite
Yes, and that's the only thing they changed.

Let ignore how the old Anime made Gon basically a normalfag protagonist that is scared of Hisoka and Killua and Killua a DARK EDGY dude who talks with his dark half or what the fuck.

>>146537506
I like 1999 more simply because it adapted my favorite arc (Yorkshin) perfectly. 2011 didn't really adapt any arc perfectly, but it had a few 10/10 episodes. Also 2011's designs looked ugly and that bothered me.

>>146537966
>Yes, and that's the only thing they changed.
Wrong again. They also changed shit in the Rescue Killua arc as well
>Let ignore how the old Anime made Gon basically a normalfag protagonist that is scared of Hisoka and Killua and Killua a DARK EDGY dude who talks with his dark half or what the fuck.
Nice fanficition bro

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>>146537966
>Let ignore how the old Anime made Gon basically a normalfag protagonist that is scared of Hisoka and Killua and Killua a DARK EDGY dude who talks with his dark half or what the fuck.

>>146536100
Right looks like complete shit.

>>146538017
What happened with Rescue Killua? I didn't see the new version.

>>146536100
>cluttered
What are you even talking about?

>>146538017
>Let ignore how the old Anime made Gon basically a normalfag protagonist that is scared of Hisoka

But he was in the manga. If anything Gon was much more interesting from the get go in 1999. 2001 is the one he becomes normalfag protag.

> and Killua and Killua a DARK EDGY dude who talks with his dark half or what the fuck.

He was not. This is just lying.

>>146537848
>Is the 2011 anime suppose to look better
Are you blind? Of course 2011 GI looks better
>>146537912
>Watch HxH until York Shin arc only.
I've done that long ago and liked old version of Yorkshin more
>Pretty sad, it's pretty interesting arc.
No it's not and it looked ugly in the manga

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>>146538017
>>146538043
He's right about that. Rewatch the 1999 version of the scene where Hisoka punches Gon. As for Killua, pic related. Take off your nostalgia goggles

>>146538110

Teenagers have limited vocab.

>>146538136
Who are you quoting?

>>146538140
>No it's not and it looked ugly in the manga
Kill yourself.

In terms of looks I go 1999 all the way but the adaptation of 2011 was really good

>>146538136
>But he was in the manga
No he wasn't. In 1999, Gon felt victimized and losing his shit in dramatized fashion after being punch by Hisoka. In 2011 and the manga he takes it on as a lesson.

>He was not. This is just lying.
Look at the pic here >>146538153

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>>146538153
>Killua wasn't an edgelord

2011fags

>>146538244
>In 1999, Gon felt victimized and losing his shit in dramatized fashion after being punch by Hisoka.
Where are these 2011fags coming up with this blatant fanfiction

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>>146538249

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>2011fags will defend this

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>>146538331
>The 2011 version is more faithful

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>>146538331
>>146538372
Contrary to what 99fags will tell you, the 2011 version was less censored. Pic related. Of course, you will keep spamming 'fanfiction' even when presented with evidence

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>>146538393
>the 2011 version was less censored.
I wrapped your heart up for ya bro

>>146538393
>A 2011fag makes a biased chart

Why are you showing us this?

>>146538460
>The heart in 1999 is just a black dot, versus a bloody bag
They both fail. No points awarded

>>146537749
>>146538017
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE RESCUE KILLUA ARC THAT IS DIFFERENT?

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Simple.

2011 scenes followed the original work (much) better.

>>146538393

So both are heavily censored?
This is just grasping at straws.

>>146538500
>>146538587
I don't have a preference for either adaptation but 2011 being more censored is a falsity spouted by people who never watched either series. The reality is 2011 is slightly less censored overall

>>146538538
Oh yeah, apparently Leerio and Kurapica push the door together as oppose to individually like in the manga and the original.

>>146538577

Manga was shit, the one closer to manga won.
Just 2011fags thing.

>>146538618
>The reality is 2011 is slightly less censored overall
Nice meme

>>146538577
>1999 improved the manga
based

>>146538627
That's literally the only difference, that's the nitpickest shit ever. And anyone who gets so butthurt about it is mentally unstable. It's a difference but not big enough for me to make a post about it.

>>146538757
>And anyone who gets so butthurt about it is mentally unstable.
see
>>146538153
So I'm guess 2011fags are mentally unstable

>>146538757
2011 has very few flaws/changes adapting the story so 1999fags have to magnify every little thing as much as they can. While at the same time defending the adaptation with shit like this >>146538153

It's pure autism

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I only watched 2011 because of extra episodes but god damn the designs looks so much more crisp and better in 1999.

>>146538814
Listen closely: everyone in this thread is. and they will never admit to anything

>>146538814
>anon says Killua being edgy and talking to himself with a "dark half" is fanfiction
>other anon posts screencaps from the series proving him wrong
>this somehow makes him both a 2011fag and mentally unstable
You're grasping for straws

Is this just the poor man's dragon ball that attracts autistic people who hate each other

>>146538884
>Anon says the 2011 version is more faithful and less censored
>Other anon proves him wrong by showing scenes that are censored and aren't faithful to the manga
>YOU ARE SO AUTISTIC YOU NITPICKING FAGGOT

>>146538971
It's a deconstruction of shounen like Dragon Ball

>>146538994
>Anon says the 2011 version is more faithful and less censored
Which is a fact, as proven by the chart here >>146538393

2011 is a 1:1 adaptation and 1:1 adaptations are always trash. If the director doesn't insert his own personal vision and take liberties, there is no reason to watch an adaptation.

>>146539119
Lol, go to /tv/ or /lit/ and say that, especially about LOTR.

But I seriously hope you are just baiting.

>>146539119
>2011 is a 1:1 adaptation
It isn't, though.

>>146538704
The list is right here >>146538393
You're free to point out the inaccuracies.

>>146539041
>fact
>not even all the episodes

Okay

>>146535784
Every week until we hate it?

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>>146538393
Why are you lying? 2011 was more censored and it didn't even show chrollo losing his left hand like in the manga.

Faithful adaptation my ass

>>146539310
1.) That's not even the full list and doesn't even include the first half of the 2011 anime
2.) You're retarded for even taking it seriously

>>146539119
>2011 is a 1:1 adaptation
no
>1:1 adaptations are always trash
no
More dumb shit you want to spout?

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>>146538393
>the 2011 version was less censored

>>146539388
>The first 9 lines are shit that happened during the exam
Huh, I didn't know that the hunter exam was in latter half of the show, although I could have sworn that the series started with it.

>>146539349
Which is acknowledged in the chart, dummy.

Can we all just agree all anime fanboys are faggots?

>>146535784
None. I'm blind.

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>>146539486
>The Hunter exam only had 8 instances of censorship

>>146535784
The sad part being that the exam arc is the arc that got the most effort put into in the 2011 show.

>>146539530
I agree.

>>146539584
> That's not even the full list
Not disputing that
>doesn't even include the first half of the 2011 anime
>>146539486

>>146538577
>1999 adaptation has hirumi having a different hairstyle
>"10/10 they improved the original material so much holy shit"

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>>146536100
>less cluttered.

What is that even supposed to mean?

>>146539774
>hirumi
ah yes, my second favorite HXH character behind qurof wrlccywrlfr

>>146539155
There's a reason Kubrick's The Shining or Tarkovsky's Solaris are more critically acclaimed than any adaptation that stays a slave to the source material.

>>146536204
It's not about what they are using to make anime. It's all about people making animu. People put in charge have no talent nowadays.

>>146540215
There's a difference between adapting shitty novels and adapting a masterpiece manga.

>>146537789
They really didn't though
Gon in 2011 was marketely different from his manga counterpart in how happy go-lucky 2011 made him, instaead of the pragmatic character that he was in the manga

They completely dropped the ball with Killua, trying to have him be seen as heroic when in reality he wasn't supposed to be.

Kurapika really felt the change during the York Shin arc, where in the manga he genuinely had problems killing but was still mostly calm, was turned into him raging in 2011. Leading a lot of 2011fags who believe that Kurapika was an edgelord.

>>146538577
Who cares? The anime should try to be it's own work with it's own goals.

>>146541832
>Gon in 2011 was marketely different from his manga counterpart in how happy go-lucky 2011 made him, instaead of the pragmatic character that he was in the manga

>They completely dropped the ball with Killua, trying to have him be seen as heroic when in reality he wasn't supposed to be.

None of this is true.

>>146541832
All of this, basically. It was annoying as fuck when I started watching it and Gon was some super pumped generic shounen character. 2011 was like watching 4kidz shit.

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>>146535784
2011fags are always so cute. The majority of them have never even seen 1999.

>>146542176
Except it is, they didn't miss a moment to always give Gon a wide smile even when he originally had a neutral face, and they also made him much more excitable than he was in the manga. All of this results in a Gon that appears to be happy-go-lucky.

The same is true for Killua they put too much emphasis on Killura's thoughts instead of the world and situation around him, so people going into the Chimera Ant arc, tended to take his perspective as law, when it was untrustworthy as fuck.

Both version seemed pretty much the same to me.
Only thing that annoyed me in 1999 was the shitty adaptation of Kastro vs Hisoka.

>>146535784
the new version got the atmosphere right by the time it reached chimera arc.

But, my question is... what about greed island? I haven't seen the 11' version yet

>>146542703
>>146535784
Man I would love BDs of the 1999 version. The current masters are way too dark and the art is amazing.

>>146543077
Its better than the OVA version but still not good. That arc is just hard to adapt for some reason because both of them wind up skipping a lot of material.

>>146542794
Then how are you fine with 99 adaptation, that makes Gon even a more generic protagonist and Killua more of an edgy faggot?

>>146543077
11 rushed the shit out of GI and removed a lot of stuff. The OVAs were better but the manga is the best.

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>>146543776
Yeah man look at that edge

>>146543857
Yes, look at it>>146538153

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>>146538393
>All these triggered 99fags
Holy shit

>>146538577
Does most of the manga look shit like this ? I was planning to continue with it after GI final but I might reconsider if it's all like that.

>>146543981
>Does most of the manga look shit like this ?
Yes. The manga is infamous for its shitty as fuck art

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>>146538577
>99fags
>caring about faithfulness to the manga

>>146543887
Look at this
>>146538249

Killua has always been an edgy faggot.

>>146544137
The different is Killua having a dark half wasn't in the manga and it's something the anime director invented.

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>>146544117
>2011fags caring about faithfulness
>supporting an adaptation that omits an important character like Kite and changes the motivation for the fucking protagonist

>>146544172
>dark half
You didn't even watch the adaptation did you?

The only reasons to watch the cartoon versions are the visuals and sound. Otherwise you could just reread the comic.
Obviously the one that excels in those is the better watch, the 1999 version.

Can't polish a turd.

>>146544298
>Comic
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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It's kinda sad that no one knows the definition of an adaptation nowadays if it's broken down to something as simple as "this was copied exactly like the source of material" and ignore the direction of the scene altogether. It's equally as sad when the notion of a director putting his/her input into a scene instead of just copyng straight from the source is bashed by fans because "THAT WASN'T HOW IT WAS IN THE _______".
So pretty much going by the logic of 2011fags the Naruto is a good because it sticks 1:1 with the manga while the Rurouni Kenshin Trust and Betrayal OVAs are bad because the director decides to do his own thing rather than copy word for word and panel to panel from the manga. Ther's no such as an adaptation that's 100% as the source of material, hell, not even the 2011 HxH is all that faithful to the manga given the plethora of omits (*cough* Kaito *cough*) and other silly edits it's laughable to see fans get relied up over something as silly as a character's behavior which doesn't deviate anything from the scene being adapted or changes anything about the character itself.

>>146544035
Thanks. I'll wait until it's completely finished and adapted then which means never, in other words i'm droping the franchise

>>146544424
I agree with you, but you type and meme like an underage newfag.

>>146544424
>muh artistic liberty justifies making shitty changes to the story and characters
This is what happens when you give Furuhashi free reign: https://myanimelist.net/anime/401/Rurouni_Kenshin__Meiji_Kenkaku_Romantan_-_Seisou-hen

1999 Killua is a fucking abomination and Gon isn't far behind. The only character they got right is Kurapika.

>>146544298
You. I like you.

>>146544618
A sequel that's better than the last arc of the manga that butthurt mangafags hate?

>>146544618
>999 Killua is a fucking abomination and Gon isn't far behind.
SHINOBI-03 pls

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>>146544618
>The only character they got right is Kurapika.

>>146543259
Anyone have the comparison image between the original cels and the DVDs?

>>146544424
If you skip the filler part 1 of Naruto has a better adaptation than either HxH. Masterpiece soundtrack and top-tier fight animation that sakugafags circlejerk to this day.

Nippon Animation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUw55rnjoe8

Madhouse:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hTta0c4V30

>>146544867
Nippon Animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VeweOBsZJk

Madhouse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qey7eDG7gvE

>>146544956
>Madhouse at their "best" still doesn't look as good as Nippon

Okay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5uVoqafQWs

>>146544956
>>146545059
1999fags BTFO

Why is KyoAni so far above every other studio when it comes to visuals?

Is it because their workers are actually given 1st world wages and aren't worked to the bone every day?

>>146545101
Why are you posting this in a HxH thread?

>>146544867
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUw55rnjoe8
so good.

Shitty casting for Illumi though.

>>146544956
>Nippon
Good directing, nice visuals, Hisoka shows more control by not moving around like a madman
>Madhouse
Bad directing, shit voice acting, muh censorship, wasting fluid animation on an insignificant scene

>>146545149
Because these threads are usually KyoAnus circlejerk threads.

http://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/GVwUuD8G-6IYJCzLSBaqSA/

>>146536303
If you're gonna waste that much time watching it, you may as well watch both.

>>146545194
You don't understand. Even if the OP is asking a general question, if the image or any part of the question is related to HxH, hxhfags claim the thread as their shitposting territory.

>>146545149
This isn't an HxH thread.

>>146545149
>Why are you posting this in a HxH thread?
Have you never seen this threads before?

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>>146535784
moe illumi is best illumi

I've wanted to watch HxH since years, but I'm so caught up in 1999 vs. 2011 that I forgot I didn't even watch the damn thing and started posting in the threads.

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>>146545569

>>146536100
Right looks like someone fucked a 600lb man in the ass until he effectively had an enema and then took photos of the results.

>>146536100
>detail = clutter

Jesus Christ

I've read the manga and then watched the 2011 version and it seemed as faithful as can be to me. Am I weird? Kite being absent at the start didn't really bother me since my mind automatically assumed his first appearance was simply not shown rather than written out. I'll certainly give the 1999 version a go sometime but I'm not sure how it's supposed to top the 2011 adaptation when it doesn't even include the best arc of the manga.

>>146545689
Ow, careful with the edge. No need to be so butthurt somebody prefers a different version of an anime.

>>146545922
>when it doesn't even include the best arc of the manga.
Both arcs contain Yorknew

>>146546087
>Yorknew

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>2011fags exist
I would post the 2011 version of this webm but it's too disgusting so I didn't even save it.

>>146545933
Have the buzzwords consumed your ability to communicate?

>>146535784
I've only read the manga, and I'm not sure if this image is cherry picking, but the left looks much better.

>>146544427
Stop being a fucking faggot and read the manga, the 'bad art' is exaggerated and cherry picked, and people automatically have a bias against it because they think Togashi is lazy. A panel without a background is suddenly a crime when Togashi does it, even though 99% of manga have them.

I'm always going to be furious that I delayed reading it for so long because people said it was shit. It's easily the best version, especially now HQ scans are available.

>>146548146
>Its okay to criticize Kubo and Kishi for their shot out
>NO! YOU CAN NOT CRITICIZE GODASHI FOR HIS SHIT ART

HxHfags...

>>146543776
Because Killua being a edgy drama queen is true to his character.

>>146548211
I think Kubo and Kishi are good artists, stop sperging out on me over shit that has nothing to do with my post.

People can criticize whatever they want, that doesn't mean they're right. /a/ has no fucking clue about art and think the only thing that matters is high detail.

>>146545089
>2011 literally using camera angles

Can you even say that this is an example of Madhouse having good directing?

>>146544424
>So pretty much going by the logic of 2011fags the Naruto is a good because it sticks 1:1 with the manga
How does a show with that much filler stick 1:1 to the manga? Anyway, something that's good as an adaption can still be a bad show if the source material is shit.