Weekend Box Office (08/27-28)

Koe no Floptachi, Hackada, and KyoAni BLOWN THE FUCK OUT, also Kizuflopgatari P2

2016 - Top 10 Opening Weekends

>¥1.245 billion ($10.3 million) / 800,258 [958] - Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Disney)
>¥1.209 billion ($11.1 million) / 933,781 [348] - Detective Conan: The Darkest Nightmare (Toho)
>¥1.155 billion ($10.9 million) / 820,830 [739] - One Piece Film Gold (Toei)
>¥1.058 billion ($8.7 million) / 974,557 [434] - Yo-Kai Watch: Great King Enma and the 5 Stories, Nyan! (Toho)
>¥930.0 million ($9.2 million) / 688,079 [301] - Your Name. (Toho)
>¥745.5 million ($7.1 million) / 553,066 [511] - Finding Dory (Disney)
>¥639.1 million ($5.7 million) / 544,641 [319] - Assassination Classroom: Graduation (Toho)
>¥637.0 million ($5.6 million) / 544,816 [374] - Doraemon: Nobita and the Birth of Japan (Toho)
>¥624.6 million ($6.1 million) / 412,302 [441] - Shin Godzilla (Toho)
>¥615.9 million ($5.2 million) / 465,956 [325] - Nobunaga Concerto (Toho)

KyoAni's reputation keeps plummeting. Being overshadowed by a fucking Shitkai movie. They won't recover from this.

Top 25 Opening Weekends [Animation]

>01. ¥1.629 billion ($14.0 million) / 1,484,916 [408] - Yo-Kai Watch: It's the Secret of Birth, Nyan! (2014)

>02. ¥1.484 billion ($14.0 million) / 1,104,980 [448] - Howl's Moving Castle (2004)

>03. ¥1.372 billion ($16.7 million) / 1,140,081 [300] - One Piece Film Z (2012)

>04. ¥1.209 billion ($11.1 million) / 933,781 [353] - Detective Conan: The Darkest Nightmare (2016)

>05. ¥1.155 billion ($10.9 million) / 820,830 [739] - One Piece Film Gold (2016)

>06. ¥1.133 billion ($14.1 million) / 771,764 [223] - Evangelion 3.0: You Can (Not) Redo (2012)

>07. ¥1.058 billion ($8.7 million) / 974,557 [434] - Yo-Kai Watch: Great King Enma and the 5 Stories, Nyan! (2015)

>08. ¥1.038 billion ($11.9 million) / 819,738 [190] - One Piece Film Strong World (2009)

>09. ¥1.034 billion ($9.8 million) / 812,557 [481] - Ponyo (2008)

>10. ¥1.010 billion ($8.9 million) / 810,000 [318] - Spirited Away (2001)

>11. ¥977.3 million ($11.1 million) / 649,249 [530] - Toy Story 3 (2010)

>12. ¥960.9 million ($9.8 million) / 747,451 [454] - The Wind Rises (2013)

>>146476278
>>146476278
>13. ¥960.6 million ($8.1 million) / 715,727 [653] - Dragon Ball Z: Revival of F (2015)


>14. ¥930.0 million ($9.2 million) / 688,079 [301] - Your Name. (2016)

>15. ¥907.4 million ($7.9 million) / 672,696 [435] - Tales from Earthsea (2006)

>16. ¥898.0 million ($8.4 million) / 724,000 [654] - Finding Nemo (2003)

>17. ¥895.6 million ($10.4 million) / 680,190 [447] - Arrietty (2010)

>18. ¥874.8 million ($7.4 million) / 688,623 [349] - Detective Conan: Sunflowers of Inferno (2015)

>19. ¥847.5 million ($8.4 million) / 614,969 [661] - Monsters University (2013)

>20. ¥789.3 million ($7.8 million) / 649,865 [341] - Detective Conan: Dimensional Sniper (2014)

>21. ¥780.9 million ($6.5 million) / 742,978 [351] - Pokemon D&P: The Rise of Darkrai (2007)

>22. ¥767.2 million ($7.6 million) / 554,991 [319] - Stand By Me, Doraemon (2014)

>23. ¥763.4 million ($7.5 million) / 602,347 [598] - Frozen (2014)

>24. ¥751.8 million ($7.3 million) / 604,355 [689] - The Incredibles (2004)

>25. ¥745.5 million ($7.1 million) / 553,066 [511] - Finding Dory (2016)

Your Name is the only film on this list that isn't from an established studio (Studio Ghibli; Disney/Pixar), or an existing franchise (Yo-Kai Watch; One Piece; Dragon Ball Z; Detective Conan; Pokemon; Doraemon; Evangelion).

>>146475754
BASED KEITAI

Where is koe no katachi?
Is Kyoani finished?

>>146476358
Out in 3 weeks but with Kizu p2, your name and that MAPPA movie in theaters at the same time, no one will even care about old no katachi

>>146476401
Kizu Pt2 will be out of the top lists by then. Mappa's movie won't screen until another month and a half so no Koe no Katachi would only realistically compete with Shinkai's movie in the animation category in its first weekend.

>>146476573
That's more than enough to bury koe no katachi completely.

>>146476669
Not really. Theaters are doing a Yamada marathon so having Keion go together with it will only boost its numbers in the prescreening starting September 5th.

Kyoani was a mistake.

>>146476724
Make a trip so I can laugh at you when knk fails to gross even 200 million yen.

>>146476801
Tamako made 200million while being a complete flop of a TV series. This isn't going to flop as hard as you anti-KyoAni fags want it to be.

>>146475754
>01 (---) ¥930,058,800 ($9.2 million), 0, ¥1,277,958,800 ($12.6 million), Your Name. (Toho) NEW

So Shinkai actually won. Wow.

>>146476904
Love story had arguably more publicity than this. It seems they already knew people wouldn't like this movie and didn't even try to salvage it. Tamako also came during a time when otaku didn't hate KyoAni as much.

>>146477027
>came out just after Free finished airing
>Otaku didn't hate them
You literral nigger.
>Tamako had more publicity
You really are talking out of your ass anon.

>>146476801
They spent so much time trying to figure out whether or not they could, they never stopped to ask whether or not they should.

>>146475754
>¥4,778,855,70 ($46.0 million), One Piece Film Gold (Toei)

Toei is projecting 6 billion yen for it, it will pass it eventually but this is a huge disappointment compared to film Z.

>>146476248
Has anyone been able to take them seriously at all since kyoukai?

>>146477203
>this is a huge disappointment
In what sense?
This is one of the biggest opening for animated movies in Japan.

>>146477171
The KyoAni hate both in the west and east is at full force now. It seems like the only internet community that gives a shit about them anymore is Exhausted /a/

Great, now the kyoanus coven will add shinkai to their infinite hitlist.

>>146477444
Well, even anons are starting to get sick of them and their cultists, so maybe tumblr will be a less triggering placem

>>146477337
>Get an independent movie to pass Steins;Gate, Index, Macross, Tiger and Bunny and the Madoka recap movies
>is hated
Yeah I'm sure they love being hated straight to making bank.
Their only flop at the box office is the Hibike movie and that was a recap movie of a mediocrly selling series.

Hosoda and Shinkai are the new hotnesses. Yamada is old and busted now, I wouldn't be surprised if she retires after this and KyoAni goes under a few years later.

>>146477554
>I wouldn't be surprised if she retires after this
Fucking seriously?

>>146477552
They KyoAni hate in Japan actually startedlast year. Otaku don't buy their shit anymore, they turned their backs on them. KyoAni might still be able to profit for a while with mediocre sales but their brand-name has been tarnished to a point of no repair. Soon enough not even mediocre sales will keep them afloat. Shame really, from Ghibli replacement candidate to bunch of has been. The Shaft brand name is more important and recognizable nowadays.

>>146477721
>Japan hates Kyoani
can this meme die already?

>>146477721
Blame their cultists.

>>146477793
Well they apparently aren't going to their movies and buying their shit anymore.

>>146477721
>Shaft brand
>Can't hold Kizu in the top 10 of the box office in the 2nd week
What a great brand

>>146477721
"Shaft"

And it begins.

>>146477721
Kyoani could fix this easily if they made something good instead of shitting out garbage

>>146475754
I really wish there was a Japanese Rotten Tomatoes, then we could also see how good the movie was.

>>146477947
That's why they're called kyoanus. They produce turds sculpted to look like godiva chocolates.

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>>146475754
>02 (01) ¥360,182,100 ($3.6 million), -06%, ¥5,302,014,700 ($51.7 million), Shin Godzilla (Toho) WK5
>>146476063
>>¥624.6 million ($6.1 million) / 412,302 [441] - Shin Godzilla (Toho)

>>146477989
>Wanting Rotten cancer
NTV did a piece on Shinkai's movie and they concluded it was the best animated feature to come out this year.

>>146477989
It has the best word of mouth possible in audiences and a lot of people who watched it called it Shinaki's best work. Although this definitely seems to be the case of over hype it looks like.

>>146477881
The madogatari event is like 4 times more popular than the KyoAni do fan days.

>>146478066
I gave you a straight up number. You're talking out of your ass. Also KyoAni rereleased the Haruhi OST and got to top the music charts for 2 weeks while nothing Monogatari related did that since the original Bakemono.

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>>146477989
>Trusting rotten tomatoes after what happened to BvS and Suicide Squad

KyoAni isn't relevant to this thread, KnK didn't come out yet either. Just give it a rest, this kind of pathetic obsession might be accepted behavior on /v/ but here, it isn't.

A fan-beloved artist after a long and prolific career of niche critical successes finally scores a hit with general audience.
Historical box office performance for an original animated movie.

/a/'s reaction: Fuck KyoAni. Because of course.

>>146478142
/tv/ go and stay go.
>>146478146
This.

>>146478146
>>146478158
But anon how will I show how edgy I am if I don't hate [whatever is currently hated in current year]

Don't expect sad endings in Shinkai movies anymore. He'll just end up making schlock, nothing artsy. Happy for him though.

>>146478229
It's current year, the only bad movies are ones that promote racist, conservative values and toxic masculinity.

>>146478257
>Liking the endings in the older Shinkai movies
He ended most of his movies on a fuck you to the audience. I get drama but doing it without any reason to conclude a story is mediocre. Your name is his best work yet.

Kyoanus can't catch a break. And Hibike s2 will also flop and lose to 3gatsu They need a complete overhaul.

>>146475754
It got a wide release and has one of the most prominent publishers. It's not a surprise it did well.

Mainstream nip taste is even shittier than otaku taste, the higher sales translate to a more mainstream friendly work.

People are deluded if they think KnK has any hope of coming close in terms of sales.

>>146478418
No one thinks knk will come close to this. In fact everyone, anti and pro kyoanifags agree that it will mkst likely flop.

>>146478307
>doing it without any reason to conclude a story is mediocre.
It wasn't a fuck you, it was relevant to themes. If you understand the themes, you'll get why they ended that way.
And I'm not saying I prefer one to another, just that Shinkai knows where his bread will be buttered from now on.

>>146476278
>>146476324
And to add to this, it achieved this feat on far fewer screens too, on just 301 versus the typical 400/500+ that established studio releases receive.

>>146478467
>KnK will flop
What counts as a flop for KnK? Not beating Keion? Not beating Your name? Or perhaps not beating Kizu? Kodansha wouldn't open in this many theaters if they didn't believe in the project.

>>146478053
>the best animated feature to come out this year
To be fair, that's not saying much. The rest of what's coming out is:
- cookie-cutter entries to long-running series of side-stories to mainstream TV shows or video games.
- side-stories to (or worse yet, theatrical cuts of) late-night TV shows.
- 3DCG kids stuff.

>>146478567
>>146478567
Anything less than 800m is a flop and will get Yamada fired.

>>146478687
Kizu Pt2 won't get 800m. But yeah I don't think anyone can advertise KnK as much as Aniplex did for Kizu so it won't beat that number most likely.

>>146478567
They probably didn't count on being Your Name this big of a success and it's opening directly against MAPAA movie. It won't be a flop but it won't be a huge success either.
>>146478687
>Yamada fired
I wish. She needs to do something original for a change.

>>146478922
Kono Sekai opens in Nov 12. Koe no Katachi opens Sep 17. Chances are Koe no Katachi is off the screens when Kono Sekai starts. As I said before the only competition KnK will have on the animation genre will be Your name in its 4th week. Kizu most likely would be forgotten by then.

>>146479134
Implying your name's 4th week won't gross more than koeno katachi entire run.

>>146479733
thanks for the spoilers cunt

>>146479683
I know that Your name is a big hit but that's kind of a stretch. Shochiku knows their market and never opened a KyoAni movie wrongly. They allocated a fuckton of screens ror an arthouse project. So yeah no Kimi no wa's 4th week won't gross more than KnK.

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>>146479733
The Lake House is just a remake of the original gook film.

Glad to see Detective Conan is still on top as usual and shits on all the otaku "big" movie titles be it Madoka, Kizu or Shitkai

Conan movies are the only one actually worth watching.

>>146479937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UushFzF0JCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLJmPD7BJXY

Black company, CIA, FBI, Zero - battle royale of all factions in this movie and seeems Auyama writes plot for it unlike others.

>>146478664
>- cookie-cutter entries to long-running series of side-stories to mainstream TV shows or video games.
>- side-stories to (or worse yet, theatrical cuts of) late-night TV shows.
Fuck you, nigger, I have high hopes for the Garo movie.

>>146479937
>Shinkai
>Otaku
He isn't being watched by Otaku and you know it. These kind of numbers are mainstream numbers unlike Madoka or Love Live.

>>146479937
>Shitkai
>Otaku
Are you retarded? His movies are really far away from pandering. This nigga is who you'd consider art house/very small indie director in Hollywood terms up until this movie.

>>146479810
It's not a stretch. It's too early to tell, but it's Japan, hit movies end up with two-digit multipliers and can play for several week without losing much steam.

>>146480076
Madoka and Love Live box office was perfectly mainstream already. Otaku are the mainstream at this point.

But of course Kimi no Na wa is something else entirely.

>>146480511
indie, arthouse - things you like
otaku - things you don't like

It's pretty much over for KyoAni

>>146480790
Can't wait for VEG to flop. The tears will be delicious.

Why are people bringing up Koe no Katachi now when it isn't properly out in cinemas yet? There's still two weeks to go. I'd be surprised if it turns out to be as much of a mainstream hit as Your Name though.

>>146480921
Koe no katachi will most likely underperform

>>146481032
because?

>>146481026
Literally ripoff of this movie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_Mare

>>146480921
Because people have a hateboner for Kyoani, whenever something made by Kyoani is out it's always "holy shit this will totally flop, Kyoani is finished"

Also a bunch of great and renowned animators worked on kimi no nawa. It will probably blow any other 2d animated movie out of the water in terms of sakuga in 2016, including kizu p2 and of course koe no floptachi which judging by the trailers doesn't look that good to begin with. A Shinkai movie with good animation seemed like a dream but now it's here. Hell many nips on twitter are saying this is the best looking 2d movie in the past 10 years.

>>146480511
You are the one retarded. The fact that Shinkai is niche among otaku audience doesnt make him not otaku shit. Its like telling indi gaming artsy shit is "mainstream", when in fact its the opposite - a niche in a niche.

Only anime fags know Shinkai, and not even most of them.

>>146475754
> Ghostbusters
Unbelievably shit taste.

>>146481095
>>146481090
No hype whatsoever. No marketing. Few prescreening reactions. Virtually 0 social media trend. Kimi no na wa prescreenings had huge impact but no one seems to give a shit about this. It'll go by unnoticed and probably just be on theatres for 3 weeks and get canned.

>>146481193
This got to be a joke. Looks worse than Nerawareta Gakuen, animation looks like shit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRfHcp2GjVI

Compare to proper animation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6u9Lm9qLow

>>146481299
>Being this deluded

>>146481255
hey you know what, with the hair and right clothes she's passable. everyone else though is another story

>>146481319
When big budget anime movie has animation worse than KyoAni TV show, one has to be truly deluded to praise it.

>>146481378
When a movie doesn't get any reactions it usually flops. Word of mouth can only do so much but if they don't get their money back in the first weekend they probably won't get it at all.

>>146481440
You're talking about Narewareta right? That movie had the typical character convultioning and flopping animation that web gen animators love so much.

>>146481490
Not the anon you replied to but Neraraweta Gakuen didn't have anything that looked like web-gen style animation. If anything it looked like standard "good" animation.

>>146481299
>comparing a trailer with a full animation highlights reel

>>146481522
It looked like that forced animation webm with the girl eating a meatball from a fork.

>>146481535
koe no katachi trailer still looks greater animation wise

>>146481552
Are you fucking kidding?
Koe no Katachi barely has any animation.

Most of it just still shots with mouth flapping.

>>146481552
Neither of them have great animation highlights in their respective trailers; They're not going to show off the best stuff in a mere trailer.

>>146481552
Koe no katachi pvs barely have any animation. And the quality looks like your typical KyoAni Tv anime. It's decent but certainly not movie quality i expect. Basically a glorified ova

>>146481592
Kimi no nawa pv has more animation in 10 seconds than both knk trailers though

kyoani BTFO

How can Kyoani even compete with this animator line-up?

Kimi no Na wa. credits:

Storyboard : Makoto Shinkai
Character Design : Masayoshi Tanaka, Masashi Ando
Animation Directors : Masashi Ando, Ei Inoue, Kenichi Tsuchiya, Shunsuke Hirota, Kazuchika Kise
Direction: Kenji Imura

Takeshi Inamura, Hideki Hamasu, Akira Honma, Ei Inoue, Kenichi Tsuchiya, Shunsuke Hirota, Atsuko Tanaka, Megumi Kagawa, Hiroko Minowa, Takayo Nishimura, Taisuke Iwasaki, Naoki Kobayashi, Tazawa Ushio, Ai Takashi, Hisaki Furukawa, Satoru Nakamura, Mariko Matsuo, Akira Takeuchi, Matsunaga Emi, Naoyuki Tatsuwa, Ryousuke Mizuno, Naoko Kawahara, Ryosuke Tsuchiya, Yuko Matsumura, Minoru ?hashi

Yutaka Araki, Yuji Watanabe, Naoko Saitou, Sanae Yamamoto, Kazuyoshi Takeuchi

Emi Ohta, Takahiro Chiba, Shinji Suetomi, Takenawa Rina, Sachiko Fukuda, Hiroko Kasuga, Saki Konishi, Haruo Okuno, Takayuki Gotan, Saeko Tsumabi

Matsumoto Norio, Hiroyuki Okiura, Takashi Hashimoto

Toho is doing pretty well yo.

>>146481595
>>146481583
>>146481592
>character animation is no animation
thats /a/ for you. Explains why there are so many Bones fags here, since anons cant see animation unless its special effect speedlines fight.

>>146481648
They can't. They should just cancel the movie, they're still on time to avoid getting absolutely blown out. I fear for Yamada she might even commit sudoku

>>146481648
They can't.

>>146481677
Nigger KnK trailers have like 4 or 5 scenes with actual character animation, and none are really impressive.

>>146481677
>character animation
It's great that you mention that because Kimi no Na wa has some of the best character animators in the industry. >>146481648

>>146481648
>how can studio that makes all works exclusively by own hands with own proffessional staff can compete with shitty product all parts of which were outsourced, done by different people and supervised by different staff and hastily put together
yeah,i wonder

>>146481677
Animating moeshit isn't hard, action takes real talent.

>>146481707
>best character animators in the industry
Production I.G.'s rotoscope artists don't count.

>>146481723
>animating human movement is hard than animating human movement

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>>146481723
>Animating moeshit isn't hard, action takes real talent.

>KnK
How many anime are there with this acronym now?

KyoAni might be king when it comes to animation quality and consistency in TV anime but they cant compete against actual industry efforts to the likes of Redline, Sword of Strager, Satoahi Kon movies, Memories, Metropolis, Ghibli, Chizu and now Shinkai's latest movie. Animation in these movies blow everything KyoAni has and will ever make out of the water.

>>146481706
You has to be really blind. KnK pv shows perfect line art, characters fitting scenes, natural movement, lighting, shadows, color scheme. It looks fluid, natural and dynamic even in still scenes - showing true proffessionalism and love for their work.

Shinkai stuff shows nice backgrounds (as usual), but subpar unimpressive choppy character animation unfit the title of Movie - in fact, some of his previous works had better.

>>146481825
Youre the only deluded kyoanus licker who believes this.

>>146481796
While you are correct that KyoAni cant complete with top quality movies of Sunrise or Madhouse - their movies are more a refined "tv" (though their TV shows are movie quality compared to others) and while produced great stuff - nor Disappearance, nor K-On or Love Story movies are highest tier production wise.

However your mistake is adding Kimi no Na Wa to that comparison - because so far it looks pretty generic and doesnt shine in animation aspect at all. Just the typical pretty imagery Shinkai stuff, with character design being generic and animation below movie standards.

>>146481851
Kid, soon Hibike S2 will air and even it has better animation than your praised "movie"

>>146481882
The staff behind kimi no nawa is impressive. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the best animated movie of the year and probably last year as well. The PV while nothing out of the ordinary, has more sakuga than both KnK PVs and that is a fact.

>>146481825

KnK was one of the more beautiful shows I thought were fucking terrible. What a trainwreck of a shitshow.

Girls were 10/10 at least

>>146481945
Judging by KyoAni recent track record on sequels i wouldn't get my hopes up. The PV already looks lazy, compare it to the PVs for S1 where they drew unique scenes instead of reusing some from the anime. Chuu2 S2 had less sakuga than S1, same with Eternal Summer and Free. Not to mention they were probanly spread too thin because of the KnK movie.

>>146481882
>>146481945
I want Kyoani shitposters to leave this thread.

>>146482088
This thread.
This board.
This site.
This internet.
This world.

The anti KyoAni shitposting will be uncontrollable when the movie flops. Shaftfags are probably warming the crowd up to distract them from the fact that kizu 2 is flopping right now.

Are kyoanihaters really this desperate that they will make these threads everyday?

>>146479937
Wow, a movie with a larger demographic appeal like Detective Conan is doing better than something like Kizu? How unexpected!

>>146480921
Because it's /a/ and retards have to start a fanbase war over everything.

>>146482220
It will be uncontrollable when the movie flops, or when it's a success, or when it merely does okay. It's hardly controllable now.

>>146482304
>Historical box office performance for an original movie by a small time director
>I-it's about K-kyoani
OP here, consider slitting your throat.

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>>146475754

>>146482869
Exactly, there is nothing to do with Kyoani in your post but thread is full of kyoahaters whining

>>146477552
8k is mediocre now?

>>146483051
>Whining
They seem to be celebrating more than anything.

>>146483144
Celebrating what? Knk didn't have premiere yet

>>146483178
Doesn't look like it's going to do well.

>>146478193 >>146478348
>get rused for bvs and ss
/tv/ BTFO

>>146476324
CoMix Wave Films is established though

>>146483232
Based on what?

>>146483448
Mild prescreenings reception.

>>146483472
Sauce?

>>146483472
So nothing? I knew it.

>>146483121
It averaged 10k actually after the movie. And it is as average as KyoAni anime goes.

>>146483647
Movies that do well usually have everyone talking about them on social media. No one seems to care about KnK, clear symptom of an imminent flop. In 3 weeks you'll realize it.

KyoAni fags on damage control.

>>146483862
Kyoani haters on shitposting tantrum

>KnK twitter - 30k followers
>Kimi no na wa - 90k followers

>KnK PV - Less than 1m views
>Kimi Pv - 4+ million views

>KnK getting bad prescreenings receptions
>Kimi being bot a critical and commercial success

How can KyoAni even compete?

>>146483709
So it did well? Nice.

>>146475754
Is the Aozora Yell movie tanking?

>>146477203
Thing is that show is getting shown in other regions. I've been seeing commercials for that in flipland tv for a while now.

>>146483954
I want to know more about the bad pre-screening receptions.

>>146483954
You want them to compete with a once-a-decade breakthrough blockbuster?

By your comparison, KnK's popularity is somewhere between 1/3 and 1/5 of KnNw. That'd give it an opening weekend of 200-300m and a total gross of way over 1b. Which would be huge for a non-franchise movie in limited release.

>>146483954
I am pretty sure they are going after the award judges with the bullying, suicide and disability theme and not profit.
The public is going to lap up the suffering.

>>146484354
>limited release
It's not a limited release.

>>146484354
>opened with 120 screens
>limited release
Yeah, no.

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>>146484354
It would be amazing if two kinomasters made a break through in the same year.

>>146484433
It's be too controversial for awards.
You don't talk about bullying in Japan.

>>146484528
Arietti won an award. You can't get any more controversial than that.

Still no BD rip of Your Name? Aren't Shinkai's movies normally sold in the theaters?

>>146484845
Not when they're summer blockbuster. Don't expect BD until 2017.

>>146484873
Well shit, thanks.

>>146484873
Fuck this world

>>146484489
>>146484506
Kimi no Na wa started on 300 screens, and that's still pretty low for a mainstream movie.

>>146484349
http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/90869

>>146478307
>endings have to be happy otherwise it's disrespectful to audiences.

>>146485286
Firstly
>yaraon
Also that was a review of Kimi no wa that has nothing to do with KnK's prescreening.

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>>146485286
All right then

>>146485594
Re:Zero is shitposted in every Yaraon post. The userbase is really no different from /a/.

>>146485529
>endings have to be melodramatic even if the character arcs are over because this isn't your grandpa's Disney story
This is how ridiculous your argument sounds like. Shinkai always tacked that drama as a big fuck you to his characters. That's why Hosoda is the better moviemaker.
>>146485609
You mean Reddit.

>>146485640
>muh idealism and furries
Kill yourself.

>>146475754
>Ghostbusters

Is that seriously still only just opening/still playing in Japan? It started being dropped by theaters in the US after a month.

>>146485666
Hosoda is the best anime maker in Japan currently working and that's not even up for debate. The progressive timeline parallel shot he did in Wolf Children is straight up art. Something Kon would've done if he was among us.

>>146476063
My nigga Conan still kicking ass

So is Kimi no Na wa about body switching?

>>146485862
Seems like it is literally keitai except you need to replace alternate parallel world with the boy communicating with the girl past self.

>>146485726
Your Name > Poo and the Beast

>>146485990
I'm pretty sure you haven't seen Kimi no wa but whatever I agree that Bakemono no Ko wasn't Hosoda's best but his editing style is still the best in the industry after Kon's death. His storyboards and shot composition are minimalistic but have greater than life meaning. Hosoda is a true artist.

>>146485640
>endings have to be melodramatic even if the character arcs are over because this isn't your grandpa's Disney story
Jesus it's like themes of the movies go way over your head or something. Enjoy Hosoda's furries.

>>146485726
>The progressive timeline parallel shot he did in Wolf Children is straight up art.
You know Shinkai uses Quadrant system in his movies too right? But you're right, that lateral tracking shot was fucking beautiful. It wasn't really the first of its kind (Up had one as well) but it was used most efficiently.

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Has anyone heard of Koe no Katachi or Kimi no Na Wa getting an American theatrical release? I would cream myself six times over if I got to see KyoAni or Makoto Shinkai animation on the big screen.

>>146477721
KyoAni needs to pursue more serious anime instead of fantasy harem garbage like Phantom World. I know that Chuunibyou and Euphonium are somewhat "serious," but they need to step away from the high school setting. Not even Kyoukai no Kanata really achieved it.

>>146486373
There are low chances of KnK getting an international screening this year but Kimi no Wa is getting distributed in the US.
>>146486432
>Kyoani should move away from their winning formula that is getting the corporation bigger year after year just because some gaijin wants that.
They aren't big enough to air in a primetime slot on their own and Otaku love the shit they produce. Even PW moved merch like no one else.

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>>146486432
They already do though.

>>146486524
>move away from their winning formula
People were saying that they would never do anything but cute girls doing cute things, and then they came out with Free, blowing away everyone's expectation that it was going to be a flop-fest. When the market gets too saturated, otaku get bored. Fantasy harems are all the rage right now, but their shows no longer stand out like they used to. KyoAni used to be a trend-setter.

>>146486546
Yamada and Ishidate will bring forth the serious kino.

>>146486546
Why did they waste so much ressource on this?
The anime adaption was forgotten immediately and squished behind Amagi Brilliant Park and Tamako Market.
KyoAni is not yet cut out for the action genre.

>>146486690
>KyoAni is not yet cut out for the action genre
Munto and FMP were literally their first two anime and they were both action

>>146486690
>KyoAni is not yet cut out for the action genre
That's how they got their start.

>>146486655
KyoAni used to be a trend setter when they had access to the fuckload of IPs Kadokawa had. They were Kadokawa's and Key's favorites. Now they need to fish for their IPs on their own. Also Koe no Katachi is original in the anime industry .

>>146486690
>KyoAni is not yet cut out for the action genre.
This is why they need the practice. They're not well-established in action series like Bones. They need to make a name for themselves in a genre that isn't high school romance.

>>146486764
>>146486768
yeah, they completely ended that era and only occasionally look back fondly of those times. Now they train their own animators who learn mainly about stabilizing their productions with stuff that is proven to work.

>>146486835
totally, they got that SoL and family-oriented stigma sticking to them.

>>146486835
Phantom World was basically practice: the anime.

>>146485719
That's pretty fast for Japan's standards. Usually films take a few months to premiere there.

>>146485640
You're right, it's Reddit that makes a shitty meme joke once. /a/ spams 2/3 of the thread with it.

>>146486997
Chuunibyou was kind of like that too. They could animate ridiculous fights all while never stepping away from the generic high school setting. Bravo.

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>>146487154
Who knows what this was practice for.

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>>146487235

>>146487037
What is Violet Ever Garden?

>>146487154
>>146487235
Genuinely good, the other two are meh.

>>146487702
>adult protagonist
>post-WWI setting
bueno

Without KyoAni the anime industry would be nothing. NEVER FORGET HARUHI

>>146488199
>not tomino

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Kizu part 2 didn't even chart in its second week

Shaft slaves are gonna get whipped by their Aniplex masters for this blunder

Kyoani fans getting dragged the mud. Guess they can only feel superior when being compared to shaft and white fox.

>KyoAni shitposters
>Shinkai EOP shitposters
Jesus

>>146478142
>implying Suicide Squad isn't utter shit

>>146489042
I can't wait for Kizu 2 BD to be available so we can have a 3 way shitposting.

>>146489042
>Aniplex shitposter
This is what these threads have been like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CJeDetA45Q

>>146488470
KnK wont even chart on its first

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>>146489664
Funny thing is even if this happened, which it won't, Kyoani would still make more than Shaft. That's how badly enslaved Shaft is.

>>146489781
You think because they arent getting risdual profits from sale, that they are slaves? You realize if an anime is being quote on quote overworked it means that they are getting paid to animate many projects. Which is good for the studio. Virtually no studio's beside kyoani gets a profit from disc sales.

If you look at silver link or jc staff who put a ton of series out and get shit sales, they are considered successful. Studios that have the least output usually begin to fail and fall into obsucity. There is a reason why manglobe failed and gonzo got bought out.

KyoAni's brand name is useless now. They used their reputation to gain some steam on their light novel label but now that otaku hate them i dont see how they can keep it afloat for much longer, they only have 9 fucking series and have shown no sign of adding any more, no one even gets into the infamous KyoAni awards anymore. They'll soon run out of adaptations to cover and beg for a publisher to give them work. But the indestry has moved on, their name means nothing nowadays.

>>146489993
They're slaves because they see a pittance compared to what their shows sell. And it can work the other way, Bones is losing money every year and they respond by taking a shit load of jobs, 5 shows last year and 7 this year. This is just so they have enough income to pay off their debt. Basically they are just treading water and barely staving off being bought out.

Kyoani is actually in a good spot because their stuff doesn't even need to sell great compared to other studios to be profitable. It's no wonder everyone wants to be like them.

>>146490184
Well I was speaking from a general sense. Of course you have studios that actually invest in projects partially or are on the committee board. Then they have a higher stake within their own company to push disc sales. What animation companies are generally supposed to do is just animate while the distribution and production company allocate a budget for marketing. There is a reason why Aniplex usually tends to see higher disc sales than other companies. Talking about on an aggregate level. They have far greater marketing power because they aren't animating it.

Kyoani looks like its in a great place to be in but the amount of effort to be profitable isn't something most studios want to tackle. There is a reason why Kyoani is in the minority. with this business model. And if we are talking about studios that are really successful it would be better to follow a Toei school of thought. And pretty much no anime fan really wants to see that. Not hating on Toei but if more studios operated like them it would suck.

For now there really isn't anything wrong with how studios are being operated today.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-08-30/makoto-shinkai-your-name-film-tops-box-office-with-1.28-billion-yen-in-3-days/.105901

>>146490007
>now that otaku hate them
Fucking stop with this bullshit

>>146490007
>now that otaku hate them
This is not the first time I see this. Assuming you're not just parroting others, care to post a source or anything?

>>146490816
Yamakan sent drones to shitpost about KyoAni on /a/.

>>146487235
Honestly I want Kyoani to keep taking whatever drug they were taking when they made PW.

>>146490929
>Yamakan
When you go from working with a god studio to A1.

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>>146490929
Why can't he let it go? It's been nearly a decade

>>146491019
What happened to Ordet anyway?

>>146491018
Violet Evergarden might have some experimental visual.

>>146491043
>Wake Up, Girls!

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>>146485576
What's about yaraon? That blog is Kyoani friendly.

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>>146485594
Makes me really embarrassed for the Re:Zero fanbase

>>146491208
ReZero fanbase doesnt care. No fanbase should care about what a bunch of rabid idiots do. Last time I checked you were supposed to watch anime for your own self enjoyment.

>>146491208
Falseflagging exists in Japan too Anon.

>>146491155
Well, otaku love Kyoani after all.

>>146489781
Who owns KnK? Kodansha or Kyoani?

>>146491285
Kodansha owns the manga.
For the film Kyoani is top producer, Kodansha is bottom.

>>146491335
Then who will the profit goes to in the end?

>>146491418
Kodansha since its not kyoani's IP

>all this negativity towards KnK.
Holy shit the movie's not even out yet and the haters is already at it. The worst part is that we know it'll inevitably perform worse than Your Name (because nothing beats insane publicity campaigns).

>>146491418
Kyoani gets the biggest slice of the money pie (as per the committee ranking), and inversely they will take most of the damage if the movie flops.

How much is Kizu making anyway?

>>146481026
>>146481100
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Letter_(1995_film)
Il Mare is litaral knock-off of this.

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>>146491285

>>146484528
>You don't talk about bullying in Japan.
Why not?

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>>146491787
Kyoani at the top, Shaft at the bottom

It's like poetry

>>146491938
Pretty sure this is a good thing. Because when kyoani flops it will be all on them.

>>146492003
Pretty sure Kyoani makes more than shaft despite /a/ claiming they've been flopping for years.

Shaft slave straw grasping is at an all time high.

>>146491938
I still don't understand why Kodansha doesn't want a bigger slice of the cake. It's either because they smelled a flop or they just don't care (or Kyoani is the one insisting to solo the damn thing with Pony Canyon's backing on music.). Either way how the movie pans out will be very interesting.

>>146492073
This is why muh sales doesn't work against KyoAni.

Phantom World sells 2k and Monogatari sells 20k? KyoAni still gets more profit.

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>>146475754 (OP)
It's ￥1.27 Billion (about US$12.51 million) now OP.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-08-30/makoto-shinkai-your-name-ranks-no.1-shin-godzilla-drops-to-no.3/.105903
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-08-30/makoto-shinkai-your-name-film-tops-box-office-with-1.28-billion-yen-in-3-days/.105901

>>146476063

>¥1.277 billion ($12.51 million) / 688,079 [301] - Your Name. (Toho)
>¥1.245 billion ($10.3 million) / 800,258 [958] - Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Disney)

Kimi no Na wa has officially beaten Star Wars in Japan.

>>146476278
>>146476324

>01. ¥1.629 billion ($14.0 million) / 1,484,916 [408] - Yo-Kai Watch: It's the Secret of Birth, Nyan! (2014)

>02. ¥1.484 billion ($14.0 million) / 1,104,980 [448] - Howl's Moving Castle (2004)

>03. ¥1.372 billion ($16.7 million) / 1,140,081 [300] - One Piece Film Z (2012)

>04. ¥1.277 billion ($9.2 million) / 688,079 [301] - Your Name. (2016)

>05. ¥1.209 billion ($11.1 million) / 933,781 [353] - Detective Conan: The Darkest Nightmare (2016)

FTFY

>>146492150
>>146491787
Kodansha's probably playing it safe because they're going get some money from the boost in the manga's sales anyway.

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>>146491787
Reminder that Ooima's new manga and Yamada's future project launches in Fall.

>>146491938
Wait, no Lantis this time?

>>146492791
I bet they hate each other now.

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>>146493138
Kyoani never worked exclusively with Lantis, that was just what one angry A-2 shitposter tried to push. He got really mad at people finding out shaft were Aniplex slaves and wanted to spin the same narrative with Kyoani.

Even when Lantis is working with Kyoani they are usually near the bottom of the committee. For Hibike they are 3rd below Kyoani and Pony Canyon.

>>146493176
Why?

>>146483250
Zaregoto.

>>146493587
>shit director and butchered designs
no

>>146487702
The flop that will bankrupt kyoanus, get bailed out by Aniplex, and spend the rest of their lives making backgrounds for Shaft.

>>146493641
>Still charting in the top 50
Dont worry its going to succeed even with the studio wars

>>146493668
Shafturds are getting desperate.

>>146490184
And Shaft is literally on Aniplex life support. Pull the plug (which might happen if Kizu continues flopping and 3gatsu bombs) and they'll be as dead as Manglobe.

Is Godzilla good?

>>146493909
Yes

>>146493767
3Gatsu isn't being propelled by Aniplex though. NHK and Shūeisha are the main driving forces. Aniplex is just there because Shaft doesn't exist without them.

>>146493767
All this hypotheticals. In a perfect world kyoani would still be good.

>>146486546

I liked Kyoukai no Kanata before the anime was even announced.

>>146476248
So I guess in a couple years Shitkai and co. will be either approaching bankruptcy like Bones, a pale shadow of their former selves like Madhouse, or a one-note corporate slave like Shaft.

When will people learn not to mess with Godani?

>KnK and VEG flop so hard
>kyoani gets bailed out by Cygames
>become CyAni Kyoto Division

Cygames wants an anime studio with all fulltime staff inhouse which is basically KyoAni.
This would be perfect for them.

>>146493975
It still is.

>>146493933
You say this like its a bad thing? More studios should work with Aniplex anyways.

>>146494013
>KnK and VEG flop so hard

You fucking wish.

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>>146494125
>work with

You mean work for

>>146494125
Fuck no. Charlotte made me hate Aniplex so fucking much. They had an entire episode of a throwaway character just to shill an idol single for Sony Music on a Walkman(r). You can't be anymore corporate than that.

>Miss Houkosai coming to theaters in October
>Shin Godzilla ~December/January
>Kizu pt 2 late 2016
>Your Name early 2017
>KnK early 2017
>Kono sekai no katsumi ni 2017

I fucking love seeing anime in theaters. God bless Japan

>>146476278
>>146476324
where did you get these figures?

>>146492321
Most films in Japan debut on Saturday, so Japanese box office weekend is Saturday-Sunday. You haven't fixed anything, you just compared apples to oranges.

>>146494661
He copypasted an entire post from http://www.worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=55322&start=7725

It's a thread on a namefag forum where a single dedicated autist provides info about Japanese box office for the entire english-speaking internet. You probably want to make your inquiries there, since the chance said autist is him is miniscule.

How will madhouse do?

>ngnl film
>mahouka film
>Kimikoe Project film

>tfw KyoAni can't sell for shit anymore

Feels good.

>>146495256
That is some impressive autism. I found that forum with a web search, but I figured there was a more official listing.

>>146476324
>>146476278

>Koe no Katashit dreams to be on this list

HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

>>146496427
Jesus, there's a limit to how ignorant you can be.

>watch this online
First of all, it's a movie that has just went out in the CINEMA, and you want to watch it in the comfort of your home? This doesn't even happen in the west, with any movies, how did you think it was even possible you could do that with anime movies?

Second, "watch this online"? You're fucking streaming? Why?

>>146489608

>Still not 1M views.

Pathetic.

>>146496427
Fuck off and kill yourself.

>>146496645
A completely unknown LN CM getting 900k views is impressive, actually.

>>146496607
>This doesn't even happen in the west
Happens all the time in the west. I guess Japan has yet to git gud. A shame.

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>>146496725
How can Yamada compete?

>>146477721
I swear everything about KyoAni started going wrong once they started adapting their own materials.

>>146497056
In what way? They don't release blu-rays immediately, do they?

>>146497292
He's full of shit but it's true that many movies are both shown and sold in theaters, both in the West and Japan.

>>146497292
>The Colony
Boom, proved ya' wrong. I'll wait for the East to git gud.

>>146497360
Stay mad, weeb

>>146497374
Not that guy, but are you seriously calling people "weebs" on /a/?

>>146497480
It's not derogatory here, right? It's like saying 'bro' in a normie environment.

>>146496607
Why doesn't Japan have camrips?

>>146497527
>normie
>>>/r9k/

>>146494572
Shin Godzilla is playing in American theaters on October 11th. Being that Funimation is also distributing Your Name, we can expect it around November.

>>146497572
I'll stay here, thank you very much. xD

What's Shinkai's best selling film prior to this? And how much did it get?

>>146496607
I've watched all of Makoto Shinkai's films in the comfort of my room. Of course, I bought the blu rays first. His films are so comfy that watching them while i'm cuddled in my bed is perfect.

>>146497609
>Shin Godzilla is playing in American theaters on October 11th
Do you have a source on that? I couldn't even find a website for it yet

>>146497214
Yeah, that's called incest.

>>146497565
Because nips value their works of art.

>>146481026
See, this is why no one likes the kyoanus cult, and why a number of anons hate kyoanus by proxy.

>>146497694
Carmine.com has the listings on their website. Here is my location. Check your local location.

https://www.carmike.com/nc/carmike-15-hickory-nc/film-info/shin-godzilla

>>146497565
They treat camrippers pretty harshly if they're caught. The japanese have tight laws and inspections for this stuff.

Anyway, Rebellion had a camrip, but it was shot in Germany instead of Japan.

>>146497527
No.

But of course, a person who uses the word "normie" wouldn't understand social cues, would he?

It's not "friendly", it's like going to a bar, and calling people there washed-up drunkards; or at at a Computer Security conference, and calling people nerds for giving a crap about "shit like that". It's incredibly out of place and while you think you're being "cool" by using such language, you're actually making fun of people for having such a hobby.

Leave /a/.

>>146497887
That post doesn't even mention KyoAni.

>>146493975
In a perfect world Shaft would've just let themselves die with some dignity after Vampire Bund bombed and become known as the quirky little studio that failed in the end but still tried, instead of selling the souls to Aniplex.

Holy fucking shit, this KyoAni vs. Shaft-shitposting derail is beyond annoying.
It's the most unfunny kind of autism.

Calling it now.

KyoAni won't even get 1/4 of the sales of this movie.

I'm gonna fucking laugh my ass off.

>>146475754

/a/ suddenly giving a shit about box office draws in Japan

>>146476248

Oh shitkai eh? /a/ bringing out all its top shittalking material today

>>146476401

I cam assure you few people give a shit about Kizu 2 anymore already. Its been out a week and already off the charts. In 3 weeks I'm doubting it'll even still be in theaters

>>146477554

She was never a thing to begin with at any point

>>146497680
Apparently Garden of Words, which sold about 150m yen worth of tickets.

I was convinced Hoshi o Ou Kodomo did around 400m, but now that I google it, I get an abysmal 20m instead, so I probably mistook something else for it.

>>146498468
Considering this movie is going to break a few records and all-time lists, 1/4 of its gross would still be a huge success.

>>146498692
There's like five of us caring among hundreds of shitposts. As usual.

>>146498315
/a/ and /g/ haven't been fun for almost 5 years now. At least Lain is still ok.

>>146498692
Well nobody expected Shinkai to do this well and Anno making apparently one of the best Godzilla movies ever is going to turn some heads

>>146478158

And Shaft dont forget about Shaft. /a/ is such a complete joke it's something else. Anime has its problems but thank god it doesn't base anything around /a/s 2 studio obsession bullshit

>>146498468

Poor Yamada. She didn't stand a chance.

It was literally just bad timing.

>>146498950
I'm actually surprised Kizu pt2 fell off so quickly, even pt1 managed to chart for 3 weeks. And this is after they increased the number of theaters it opened in.

Shaft must be in deep shit with Aniplex right now

>>146499117
>Apparently Garden of Words, which sold about 150m yen worth of tickets.

Then 5cmps was his biggest success.

It sold like 100m yen worth of tickets and 90k disc sales.

>>146499352
That was Aniplex's decision.

Do you think Shinbo and co. are getting sick of their bullshit? Is a revolt in order?

>>146499117
>Considering this movie is going to break a few records and all-time lists, 1/4 of its gross would still be a huge success

I doubt it would be 1/4. Koe no Katachi was really trying to cater to a new audience but in reality it's still niche. Not to mention Yamada is also a niche director.

Going to be really hard for her to get some publicity with this being a monolithic success.

>>146497978
In a perfect world 3gatsu and Evergarden will bomb and shut both studios down so these threads can end.

>>146499477
Look at their balance sheet again. They're spending more than their slavemasters are letting them keep. They are literally on life support at this point.

>>146499477
They must be sick, how can anyone who creates things for a living stand being micromanaged by some corporate suit? Shaft probably don't have the power to do anything about it though, it's a shame really.

>>146478567

Any number needs in order to claim it as a flop to shitpost so anywhere between 1 and infinite yen

>>146475754
Is there anything Shinkai can't do?

>>146499117
>Considering this movie is going to break a few records and all-time lists, 1/4 of its gross would still be a huge success.

>KnK
>art house movie
>Not a Ghibili
>1/4 of KnNw

Not a chance bruh.

I watched this movie yesterday, really good music and visuals, plot was a bit cliche but it was at least better than Kotonoha no Niwa.

It has a bittersweet ending, but I don't really think this is a spoiler

Shinkai is a hack.
I didn't care when he was a poorfag drawing clouds and eroge openings by himself, but since now he's making a killing with his subpar sentimental bullshit: fuck him.

>>146499352
pt1's second weekend would not make this week's top 10 either.

Ticket sales of pt2 ARE down compared to pt1, but looking at chart positions instead of actual gross is fucking stupid.

>>146499395
You're free to provide proof that all those places listing Kotonoha no Niwa's gross at 150m are mistaken.

>>146499705
Just to make sure - do you know what a conditional mood is? How about context?

>>146484016

Theme song, soundtrack and novelization are all in first place in their respective category on amazon today. If it had a BD listed no doubt it'd take #1 overall easily too. Very big hit.

>>146475754
>be Shinkai
>make movie about distance between lovers
>people lap that shit up
>go full hack
>make hack movies
>die
This is what's happening. The trouble is I think he has talent and it's being wasted on hack fucking films.

>>146500076

Oh never mind for some reason I thought you were talking about the movie that's actually out in theaters right now. Funny how that works

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>>146500033
Can't even look at gross because it didn't chart. Although you can imagine they expected pt2 to do better than pt1 or they wouldn't have increased the number of theaters it opened in.

>>146477793
Japs believing Kyoani are slave drivers and staff are kept in chains in the basement and fed dry instant noodles is an actual meme anon. Some of them really do hate Kyoani.

>>146500114
>hack films

Shinkai's films are more genuine than most anime

KyoAni and pretty much the whole anime induatry have been blown the fuck out by a complete hack.

>>146500282
They all use the same formula, just like KyoAni garbage.

>>146500114
I'll reserve my judgment till I see the movie, but his themes do seem to be getting repetitive.

>>146499884
>if I like it: not hack
>if I don't like it: hack

Someone hurt you. Who did it?

>>146500259
But Kyoani already stated they work on hourly wage in interviews. Are jap kyoani haters even dumber than english kyoani haters?

>>146499352

The first part didn't exactly get an awesome reception even with repeat viewer benefits so it's not surprising. Also Summer is kind of ending and we're talking about a work whose primary audience is probably teenagers or shut in otaku who might not even make it to the theaters more than once anyway so that's not exactly helping it.

It also picked an atrocious time to come out when legit ass popular movies like One Piece Film Gold, Shin Godzilla and now Your Name are getting all the attention so again also not helping it. The first movie also got caught up in the GuP hype now that I think about it too. Aniplex just has extremely limited thinking and an if they build it they will come philosophy except lately the thing they build isn't the field of dreams but a run down pitch using whatever beat up spare objects they still have left in the garage. They try to release their movies at high points for the movie going year which makes sense in theory but overcompensate with booking too many theaters and unnecessarily bloated ad campaigns but then so does everybody else, just with proportionate ad campaigns and sometimes actually good films to compliment them. They're going to release the third movie around Christmas and it's just going to get slaughtered by better movies with mainstream appeal again I bet.

>>146500033

What does that have to do with anything? They're both films you dolt. Both are animated films to be exact.

It doesn't matter what the context or mood the movie has. When one gets more publicity obviously the rest gets less. I'm not the one implying that this will bomb if it sold less than 1/4 but this will definitely remain a niche movie with only a cult following just like most non-Ghibli animated films.

This isn't going to be a breakthrough in the market for KyoAni or Yamada.

>>146500341
>They all use the same formula
>just like KyoAni garbage.
Elaborate, drone.

>>146500341
Which formula did Children Who Chase Lost Voices follow?

>>146481749
He's right though. Arguably a hand drawn tracking shot is the most difficult and time consuming things to animate, and it is unarguably an "action" shot.

>>146497609

If god forbid the movie somehow ends up getting an Oscar nomination that'd be a huge coup for Funimation after getting dicked over by Aniplex this year with FMA.

>>146500282
Go back to your Yahari threads.

>>146495256

Yes providing useful information to people is now also a sign of autism. Fuck you too /a/ you've got serious problems.

Well KyoAni movies are shit to meh anyway. They're not even comparable to the likes of Kon or Ghibli works.

KyoAni movies are just high budgeted TV OVAs. Which is sad. They still use their same approaches of cutting corners for TV anime on an animated film. Hell even Hyouka's key episode was almost in line with KyoAni's movie approach.

Anyone who think they'll be miles better than the rest of their movies with Koe no Katachi is delusional.

>>146489608
>yet another animated billboard for their publishing overlords
I predict it will be well produced but completely insipid, just like every single AD kyoani has put out.

>>146494251

Someone else noticed that too. Yeah they're as soulless and self serving as you get in this business. I really hope more people start switching to Toho or just about anyone else to carry their multimedia anime project type deals soon enough as they're just badly fucking managed too lately.

>>146500595
>for their publishing overlords
So themselves?

How did this turn into yet another Kyoani vs Shaft circlejerk thread? The thread is about movie box offices?

>>146480669

>Otaku are the mainstream already

No. Learn what you are talking about

>>146500724
look at the first posts

KyoAnus lickers actually thought Koe no Floptachi would break box office records and get nominated for the Oscars. Now it seema that Your Name will be the one to do it.

>>146500724
>turn into

It was one Kyoani hater who tried to use Shinkai's success to troll Kyoani, probably to deflect from the fact Kizu part 2 is doing badly compared to the first part.

>>146481522

Nerawareta Gakuen was animated by the same studio that does Love Live.

>>146500282
While "Hack" can mean dull what I'm saying strictly has to do with originality. Saying he's putting out Hack movies means he's putting out films I feel tread to close to one another, both thematically and the cinematography.
I don't think he's talentless, but the only departure from formula he's produced in my opinion is Lost Voices, and even then his more comfortable themes have been shifted to a secondary role (the antagonist's motivation) rather than gone from the narrative completely.

>>146481648

KyoAni has only B tier animators though. Even their veteran Kigami could only do so much trying to solo carry KyoAni's ass.