Dragon Ball Super

>>146451557
goten is black. Goku got chichi pregnant before he died

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Subarashii~

Utsukushii, daro~?

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Filthy ningen~

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>>146451557
>Goku and Trunks will get BTFO by Black and Zamasu

>Black about to kill Trunks when Vegeta uses the last of his strength to save him.

>Vegeta dies.

>Goku holds off Black and Zamasu long enough for Trunks and Mai to escape back to the past.

I honestly don't know what would happen after. I have no clue what's going to happen because I honestly don't see Trunks and Goku winning these fights (at this point, because I think they'll escape somehow and the final fight will be later)

What do you think bros?

kill all ningens

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>>146451749
>>146451753

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>>146451787
> Vegeta dies

Stopped reading there

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Where is that hand holding Gohanfag who said he was going to be relevant? Get those hands ready faggot.

>>146451787
Shit

Any dokkan bros? I need some high sa friends so i can farm surpassing all. I have shit all for teq fighters.

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>>146451753

>>146451856
Goku is for the fighting
Vegeta is actually for character development. He treated Trunks like shit the first time they met, and now he's actually proud of him (and not even for fighting, but just for giving hope to the survivors)
>>146451879
I can't think of anything

REMINDER
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that Goten is Black.

>looks like Goku but with subtle differences
>same age as Trunks
>Zamasu kidnaps Goten because Goku is too strong for him to control
>trains Goten to be edgy, possibly brainwashed
>adds to the Trunks drama (muh friend)

Any dank new Zamasu memes?

>>146451960
Stop this meme, Black identifies as "Son Goku".

Goku's number of spikes on his hair has always been inconsistent if that's your only argument.

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> one-shots SSB
> looks fabulous while doing it

How do they stand a chance against Black + Future Zamasu?

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>>146447851
Reminder that GTfags got BTFO by this based anon.

>>146452069
I honestly don't think they do. They're going to lose and have to retreat.

>>146452069
When Goku and Vegeta fuse and go SSB + Kaioken I'm sure it'll be an easy fight.

>>146452069
Gowasu

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Goku's just going to press the Zen chan button after he gets BTFO.

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>>146452069

>>146452114
the question is how are they gonna escape?

>>146452154
Instant transmission. King Kai should still be alive in Future Trunks' timeline right? I don't really remember.

>>146452154
Zeno button

>>146451960
>>146452047

Not to mention Goten was never fucking born in the Future timeline.

I think Future Gohan/Trunks would know if he existed

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>>146452083

Why the fuck are there so many Gotenfags now? Who the fuck even likes Goten?

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>>Hopefully muh animation posters won't ruin this thread.

Now excuse me while I waifufag.

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She did Super Saiyan Rose first.

>>146452154
Using a distraction to get to the Time Machine. Someone will stay back to hold Zamasu and Black off, and potentially die (I'm guessing Vegeta and him and Trunks will have a touching moment where Trunks realizes, yeah, my dad really does love me)

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>>146452227
>Not to mention Goten was never fucking born in the Future timeline.

Gee I wonder if he's from a different timeline :^)

going to be funny when you denialfags get BTFO

>>146452137
Episode preview confirms Vegeta leaves the battlefield, no chance of Gogeta or Vegito showing up (for now, anyways).

>>146452265
Gohan turned into a sissy cuckold so now Goten is our last chance at having an actual Goku successor.

>>146452265
who doesn't like good guys turned bad?
Goten being black is going to be the best thing in super

>>146452263
looking back at it GT Trunks really was a faggot wasn't he?

spoiler: Black and Fabulouskami will be defeated by Trunks and Mai after they get special training by king of all.

>>146451749
Why do I find Black so hot? He's basically Goku

>>146452323
No it didn't. Vegeta was still there in that shot where Black is charging up for a Kamehameha. He's on the ground while Trunks and Goku stand in front of him.

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>>146452115
SSB + Kaioken won't happen again.

Last time, not only did Goku STILL lose, he was basically crippled afterwards.

Couldn't even fly which is one of the most basic ki techniques...

Also doesn't help that it was absent in the manga

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>>146452392
But he isn't goofy and stupid Goku. He is also smug all the time and smug is the best.

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>>146452271
Stop. Just shut the fuck up. They are not getting together you stupid fuck. This is the perfect chance for the Vegeta and Goku bloodlines to merge by making Trunks and Pan get together. Gohan CHOSE to stop fighting because he knew just how much stronger Pan was going to be. Even though he could still easily overcome all of the current characters in power, including Beerus and Whis, he knew that Pan would grow up to be a much more passionate and powerful fighter than he ever was. After she ages a bit her and Trunks will have an incredibly powerful child that unites the two families and concludes the series. There is NO reason to bring back Mai or pair her with Trunks for that matter. She's an old bland character that no one cares about or remembers, just like most of the old dragon ball characters. She also doesn't go together with Trunks at all, Pan would make more sense as they're both saiyans. I am so confident in fact, that Mai and Trunks will not get together in any sort of way, that I will suck every anon's dick on this board if it does happen.

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>>146452406
meant to say Jump preview. Vegeta is out.

>>146452468
>that I will suck every anon's dick on this board if it does happen.
I don't recall getting my dick sucked last time anon

>>146452453
I also really like Nozawa's voice tone on Black while I think she's gotten to old for the energetic Goku.

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>>146452345
It's pretty obvious that Pan is going to be Goku's successor by now.

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Anime

>I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.

>Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.
>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-introduction/

>I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.

Manga

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

>Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
>Toriyama: That’s right.

>Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
>Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!

REMINDER FOR ALL OF YOU WHO ARE STILL IN DENIAL ABOUT WHICH ONE IS CANON OR NOT

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>>146452598

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>>146452508
AFTER WHAT TRAINING? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>inb4 vision/imaginary training.

>>146452508
I think they just mean he's injured and unable to fight. I don't think someone comes and literally carries him away.

You guys are dorks

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>>146452613

>>146451912
My Gogeta's at SA 4.

So Zamasu going to be stronger than Goku or Vegeta? If so wouldn't Blackmasu or whatever be stronger than Vegito?

>>146452730
>Blackmasu
This would be Goku Green then?

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>>146452681

>>146452681
You're a dork.

>>146452681
>>146452789
>>146452791
come anons lets hold hands

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GT Trunks
> stops training
> lazy CEO of Capsule Corp that plays hooky
> no wife
> no child
> no ambition
> no excuse
> Max Power: SS1

DBS Gohan
> stops training
> pursues his dream of becoming a scholar
> A loving husband, and father. Takes care of his family.
> Max: Unknown. Managed SS1 while rusty.

>>146452271
>waifufag complaining about someone else ruining the thread

>>146452649
Either way I think it's safe to say we won't see Vegeta fight anymore unless they retreat.

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>>146452453

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>>146452681

>>146452829
>>Managed SS1 while rusty.
clapping_black.gif

>>146452642
l'm guessing that little tussle Trunks had with SSGSS Vegeta earlier was "training"

>>146452934
>SSGSS Vegeta
just say blue

>>146452829
GT Trunks is 28 and still a virgin

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>>146452789
I'm going to bully your boypussy with my cock.

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>>146452829

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>>146452613
Cherry-picking interview comments this hard

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>>146452928
Have a webm instead.

>>146452953
No.

>>146453026
Can l have a gif instead, anon?

>>146453032
Yes. It's retarded anyway.

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>>146452934

Probably. I just know Trunks will get his shit pushed in by Zamasu.

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>>146452928

>>146453080
Both are retarded. Least Black gave his a cool name.

>>146453026
goten looks smug

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>>146452630

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>>146453152
GOWASU-SAMA THE NINGEN ARE MOCKING ME

>>146453152
I have one question was it black?

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>>146453284
>>>/v/
Fuck off.

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>>146453284

so no discussion of the new ressurection f scene? come on, they even made goku buff again. /a/ is so shit omfg

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>>146452999
>Maybe so, but let's not take any chances.
and people say Gohan doesn't learn from his mistakes.

Whatever happened to predictability?

>>146452867
I think he will fight, but it will either be to

A) Save Trunks at the last second
Or
B) Hold them off as Trunks, Mai and/or Goku escapes

Either one would be great for character in Trunks/Vegeta's relationship. Vegeta didn't give a fuck about Trunks the first time around. Compare that to this time.

I mean, even in the Shonen Jump preview, they mention how Trunks is "stepping up for his father". There's a lot of potential there.

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>>146452069

>>146453323
isnt ningen a mythological creature?

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>>146453367
What new scenes did RoF: FT edition bring?

>>146453424
I do wonder how it would work if Vegeta died in the future. Would he be sent to our otherworld or the future otherworld? Could he even be brought back since that body technically hasn't died in that timeline?

>>146453473
No, just scum.

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>>146453540
Not him btw

>>146453424
Yeah, Vegeta is definitely going to be saving anybody with a big hole in his chest

>>146453540
>>146453367
I also want to know this. What are the new scenes?

>>146451787
characters dying is so 90s

>>146453389
Can't have learned that much if he doesn't realize letting his training go and being weak as shit is a mistake.

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>>146453591

The button will be pressed accidentally or is it too obvious?

>>146453662
>>146453591
Where the fuck is that from?

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>>146453639
Living his life isn't a mistake.

Gohan "fans" continue to be outraged at how he lives happily with his beautiful wife and child, in a big house, pursuing his dream job.

>>146453697
from your mother.

>>146452999
>>146452829
Man I loved Gohan in RoF. Super had to beat down the man even further. Gohan basically one shot everyone that wasn't Frieza. Hell, if he was the only one there he probably wouldn't have struggled against all of them single handedly. But naw. In Super he gets an unneeded ass whooping

>>146453697
Dude really?
>filename
>the fucking post it replied too

>>146453697
That's a new edition of Resurrection of F (the Freeza movie). It has 16 minutes of new scenes.

>>146453703
Gohan just can't pretend to the fighting hero if he doesn't have the strength to be one. Its an amusing idea to see a character other than
Bulma pursue their intellect but Gohan doesn't get that he can't fully do both at the same time.

>>146453697
...are you fucking retarded?

>>146453591
>>146453662

> "Future Trunks edition"
> extra scenes of Goku vs Freeza on Namek

>>146452468
So we're getting our dicks sucked by you and that Gohanfag then, right? Prepare yourselves anons.

>>146453754
STOP SPOONFEEDING REEEEEEE

>>146452310

Someone screenshot this cunt so we can rub it in his sandy vagina when Goten isn't even relevant in this arc.

>>146453591
Man, Goku's build here is amazing. He looks like a monster, every attack looks like it really fucking hurts

>>146453846
>>146453847
so where is my dick sucking at?

>>146453662
this looks so cool and makes me feel so nostalgic. Best arc ever

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>>146452310
>going to be funny when you denialfags get BTFO

The only one in denial is you anon.

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>>146453947
>Best arc ever
Agreed.

>>146452468
Prepare your mouth, Panfag.

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>>146453639
Krillin, Yamcha and even Piccolo all quit training for a while. Gohan's just focusing on his life at the moment.He's got a baby to take care of. Hell we don't even know if GOKU trained when he was raising Gohan, at least during that first couple of years. But maybe they did. All we know is Chi-chi didn't want Goku training Gohan yet cuz they were in a time of peace.

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>>146451856
>Vegeta dies

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>>146452642
Will fusions ever be relevant again in anime?
New game gave us more less nothing interesting except two cute fusions for Pan.
Also vote:
http://www.strawpoll.me/11086941

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>>146453284

>>146451696
Gotten is black. Popo got chi chi pregnant

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>>146454138
Makes no sense to have a Pan + Videl fusion.

Pan + Bra makes sense. But why "Brapan"? That's like Gogeta being named Gokuvegeta.

Using Toriyama's naming convention for fusions, it should be Bran.

Also the fusion looks like Bra wearing Pan's headwear. It should be like Gotenks: Black hair with blue hair on the sides.

>>146453599
Remember what happened in the Cell fight? I'm calling for something similar to happen here.
>>146453559
I think he would be stuck there.

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>>146452681
Fuck off Ningen kevin

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>>146454138
Her name is Bra, dude.

Also pic related is still pretty based. Although I'll be quick to admit that her face looks off in most other angles.

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>>146454344
Some of these "fan theories" have been retarded. But the people trying to rationalize Goten being Black take the cake. Nobody really thinks that Goten is Black, r-right?

>>146453846
>this delusional

Mai x Trunks isn't happening and she's most likely going to get killed off for some cheap drama

>>146454472
His dad is mister POPO

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>>146454424
the fuck did you just say to me you filthy kai?

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>>146454505
TFSfag pls go. That shitty Popo meme is annoying as fuck.

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>>146454523
A FILTHY NINGEN!!!!

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So, Do you think Yajirobe will actually have a role this arc? It feels weird that they'd bother to show he's still alive if not. Even if it's just grabbing someone and running away and hiding or giving someone a left over Senzu bean.I gotta be honest. I'm hoping he shows up and does SOMETHING.

>>146455082
I think it was just a gag. and nothing more beyond that.

>>146455082
right after Gohan

>>146455082
Yajirobe will save vegeta

>>146455200
kek

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>>146455082
He's going to take a bite out of Zamasu's ass, distracting him long enough for Trunks/Goku to do something.

>>146455082
His sword is the only thing that can hurt Zamasu and Black.

>>146455213
Wait and see.

>>146455082
>So, Do you think Yajirobe will actually have a role this arc?
Yeah I do, it would be pretty pointless to reveal that he survived otherwise and Mai is suppose to have a huge role in this arc so Yajirobe isn't to far out there.

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>>146452069
>Vegeta gets jobbed again
this is getting sad

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>>146455082
Toriyama wants to make old DB favorites like Mai and Yajarobe relevant again

The fact that they even bothered introducing Future Yajarobe means he may play an important role in this arc sooner or later.

If it was just a "gag", they would've made it into a funny moment. But it was literally: "Hey this character is alive! Okay? Okay."

>>146452310
>Goten
Goten turns out to be the Goten from the present timeline, Zamasu gonna show up searching for Goku, find out he went into the alternate timeline like a filthy ningen and take Goten with him to get a safeguard that guarantees Goku wont be able to kill him.

i want goten to be black

>>146455386
>trying to make yajirobe relevant
>the guy who is a coward, fat, lazy idiot with no sense of honor

>not making krillin or iccolo relevant again
i hope yajirobe stays a fucking joke

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I like GT.
And Super.
And Kai.
Z still has charm to it, and DB is great fun. You can't say shit to me.

WHEN WILL IT BE PUARS TIME TO SHINE?!!!??!!!

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>>146455430

>>146455430
I want Goten to be BLACKED.

Lads. I'm Goku Black, sorry. It's not Goten

>>146455457
Hes going to literally reveal hes been trying to replant senzu beans for years.
And use one to save Vegeta, ZENKAAAAI

>>146455200
>>146455235
might be true, like mr satan.
he'll used as comical support

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>>146455495
Fucking saved.

>>146455200
Fucking this. They didn't say that he actually ate the last senzu bean, but that korrin did give him one before dying.

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Best fucking villain right here.

Its like Raditz all over again, with the kidnapping and the taunting, but this time this Raditz linked his own soul to Goten so that Goku cant kill him without losing his son.

The tournament saga will have Goku trying to get the balls to revert Goten to being a kid, Trunks trying to get the balls to revive his whole universe population and his mom and Vegeta not knowing which one to support.

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>>146455457
That's the thing. Yajaribe is the realest character in DB.

Also if it wasn't for him, Vegeta would've won in the Saiyan Saga.

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>>146455417
>Implying Kakarotto has any qualms when it comes to killing family members
This is a Goten who Goku doesn't know, not even his son.

So i watched battle of gods an ressurection f movies. Can i skip those two arcs to get caught up in super?

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>>146454523
:3

>>146455457
Remember when Piccolo was still semi-useful?
https://youtu.be/efdiRRf54aY

>>146455386
he was crying over Korin.
I thought that was qt

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He's going to fuck up everyone that ever mocked him. Oh so you like your new GF instead of playing with me huh? Im blacking her first.

>>146455515
Guess that settles it then.

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"Rejoice, Son Goku. You have reached the peak of beauty at my hand.

Alas, you are still a human. You don't have the capacity to understand the dignitiy of my speech. Nor my desires, nor my beauty!

My entire existence is simply superior."

Holy shit why is this cunt so pretentious, it's fucking sickening

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>>146455638
Yep

>>146455611
Its going to be a big reveal ofc.

Goku will be about to give the killing blow and Goten will call him "dad" , Goku will turn to zamasu who will have the biggest shit eating grin he ever had.

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>>146455611
I feel bad for Raditz. He wasn't even that bad all things considered. He just wanted his little brother to join him. Vegeta was much worse at that time.

>>146454472
Chi Chi got BLACKED.

>>146455457
We're not talking about making Yajirobe Punching Black or cutting Zamasu in half. We're saying him doing some little thing that turns the tide. Heck it wouldn't be the first time an unimportant character put them over the edge. (They literally couldn't have beaten Buu without Mr. Satan's help)

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>>146455457
>coward
Not even. For some reason, his character took a 180 and he became a gag. Though that's probably the one thing that keeps Dragon Ball from being becoming Zfaggotry entirely. Hell, if Yajirobe is coming back, it'd be great for him to get some work in and come back triumphantly.

I'm getting hype.

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>>146454472
Black has her eyes.

>>146455786
>He doesn't even get to go to the same hell as the rest of the Saiyans / His mom, but is sent to Earth's hell with supreme bully Nappa instead

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>>146455786

>>146455786
Not that bad?

>Pile up the bodies on the beach, Kakarrot
>Then you can join us on our genocidal, imperialstic mission

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>>146455621
You can start on episode 28

Or watch ep 1-2, 15-18, 28+ to get all the "in-between" episodes

>>146455682
>I'm blacking her first
>Manages to not only not kill her in trunks' timeline long enough that she can stage a revolution but also failed to kill her before trunks went to the past. Good job, kiddo.

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>>146455807
I wouldn't even be mad. She's had it coming.

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>>146455807
lewd of Black and Chi-chi when?

>>146455313
Prince of all Jobbing

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>>146455720
So basically, Black is more perfect than perfection.

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>>146452083
Reminder that GT will never be this funny

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>>146455920
Well for a Saiyan anyway. And this was way before Gine the gentle qt saiyan was even thought of. By this point, Saiyans were a race of bloodthirsty warmongers.

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>>146455856
And her earings.
Is Chi-chi a Kai?
Part of me would love watching Black be some terrifying unstoppable force and then Chi-chi just yanks his ear and he just does as he's told because she's scary.

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>>146456028

See:
>>146452083

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>>146456019
If Cell was so perfect how come he died

Black is true perfection

Chi-Chi should have married Yamcha and Goku should have married Bulma and Vegeta should have died.

>>146456087
Chichi is a half demon half human hybrid.
She's the ox demon princess.

Even Gohan was dressed as a chinese prince due to this.Goten also has this type of dress.

>>146456132
it's just super fans trying too hard

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>>146456087

>>146456028
Not to mention scale tool, the magic dragon.

>>146454472
I don't particularly think so, but the fact that Goten was kept from joining with the other characters and seeing Black is extremely suspicious. I thought it was just Zamasu myself but yeah.

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>>146456174
>Chi-Chi should have married Yamcha

I'm sure she had pity sex with him at some point before Z started.

>>146456241
>prevented from joining the others and meet trunks
>was not in the same place as black at any point
>wears long sleeves
>Name literally translates as "Awakening to heaven"
>prodigy that learnt kamehameha and ssj out of the blue with no training

Screenshot this, If Black is not Goten you can all buttrape that hand holding gohan anon.

>>146452310
Would Zamasu be willing to work alongside a ningen? it sounds to me
like he didn't even talk to Black like a servant, especially since Black "promised" he'd let him kill Goku.

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>>146455897

>>146456241
They sent all their powerful warriors to the future, what the fuck do they think is going to happen when Zamasu shows up searching for Goku?
Whis gave him the exact location of the planet for a reason.

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>>146456178
>Chi-chi wants to settle down and chill out because as a kid she saw her father slaughter many men for treasure.
>She wants to put restrictions on fighting so the son family doesn't start using it when it's unnecessary like her father.
>She's also just sick of watching her family constantly die.

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This is the best villain since Freeza.

>>146451804
Underrated post.

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>>146456174
Vegeta was supposed to die, but fans loved him so much that Toriyama kept him alive. Imagine how different the series would have been with no Vegeta or Trunks.

>>146456420
If someone becomes a God they are no longer a Ningen.

Zamasu is aware that a kaioshin and a god of destruction are a set and if one dies the other dies, so if he has linked his soul to Black its because he thinks theres something in him that will keep Goku from finishing him off.

If he was Goten that would be kinda fucked up but it would work.

>>146451804
Overrated post.

>>146452083
Holy shit that's bad

Beerus is a disgusting ningen lover

>>146456332
>Chi-chi, still pining after her first crush, subconsciously cuts her son's hair like him.
>It's not until Goku dies again that she misses him so much she starts cutting Goten's hair like that
Or maybe Toriyama can't think of a bunch of hairstyles, which is why almost half the main cast is bald.

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>>146456702
What are you going to do about it faggot?

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>>146456473
I don't know. He is not perfect.

>>146456500
Not only that Freeza was created to replace Vegeta when Toriyama decided that he was too popular to kill. So, if he didn't change plans, we'd get a Namek Saga with Vegeta as the main villain.

cell would have won against gohan
goku would have to ask the namekian dragonballs to wish him back to life
restores earth with another wish
finds cell and beats him as a ssj2

buu fights without gotenks
no vegetas sacrifice

also either no ss-god or the ritual would have 2 members less

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well at least Lunch is getting figures

>>146456760
beerus is no ones friend
thats what he said to bulma during goku vs frieza

>>146456760
I want to pet that cat until it purrs really loud!

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>>146456857
Christ my dick. Why is Tien such a faggot?

>>146456830
>Cell would have won against Gohan

Gohan would have just been killed by the androids along with the others. It was Trunks that warned them and gave Goku the medicine. Hell, with them being oblivious to the androids and Cell beforehand and no access to the HTC, Goku isn't defeating Perfect Cell anytime soon.

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Black turning out to be Goten would be super interesting. I can't imagine another origin that would be more fun.

Anyone have this pic except with Goku and Zen-chan?

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>>146456803

How is this anything but perfect?

>>146455590

Yajirobe literally says that Korin saved him by giving him the last senzu, after Trunks remarks that he thought Yajirobe died.

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>>146457124
gotchu senpai

>>146457184
hey it pays to b bf with god

although do you think Zeno will end up being pals with the comic relief characters, like maybe Pilaf?

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>>146457184

thanks anon-kun!

>>146457184
Now do one with Mai and Trunks holding hands while Goten is crossed out.

>>146455638
Reminder that Frost would have been Raditz'd if he hadn't cheated, and that Piccolo had the upper hand in the fight, proving Goku wrong.

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>>146457295
I'm still salty they didn't give him a win. His last decent fight was against 17. He was basically going "fuck power levels" during the Frost fight, and would have won if Frost wasn't such a little bitch.

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So I have a theory on this whole Black Goku shit.

What if Black Goku is a Clone of Goku that Zamasu created? either he created the clone and implemented his own memories into it or somehow the potara earrings have a new power to split your personality into two and he made one take over ''Black's'' body, It might be that he took over Goku's dead body but that would make no sense, the time ring can only travel into the future so unless he fucked up the rules somehow and traveled back in time to take over future Trunk's Goku's body, it kinda makes sense that after he fought with Goku he somehow created a clone of Goku's body.

>>146457270
most likely, monaka is my guess.

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Zamasu has the best theme out of all the themes played in DBS

>>146457516

Clone is just such an awful cliche though and honestly it would be boring. It would be a shitty Cell 2.0 plot.

Hey...guys..what if vegeta stayed dead and freeza turned good?

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will this child emperor be surpassed?

They tend to have these god figures and then our heroes surpass them. I do get the feeling that Zeno might be different, he'll remain the final power in the DB multiverse.

although I'm expecting a different type of arc with him, perhaps the source of his power will be cut off or he'll be sealed or something. leaving it up to the 'lesser' beings to fight whatever threat it is. I'll imagine this will be set much later and will be at a point when goku has surpassed all the gods and kais.

>>146457942
I wish Freeza had revealed to the cast that Beerus told him to destroy planet Vegeta, to cause a bit of drama, before he died.

>>146457184
10/10

>>146455920
Well the whole point was to get Goku to remember who he was and his purpose( turns out Raditz was lied to)

>>146457960
I feel like Zeno isn't the first emperor
Whoever preceded him died and zeno matures at a very slow rate so he's still a child
Who knows though

>>146455920
raditz dindu nuffin

>>146457516

Let's recap what we know for certain:

-Black gets stronger the more he fights, like a Saiyan
-Black gets stronger the more damage he takes, like a Saiyan (zenkai boost)
-Black uses a dark version of the Kamehameha, and looks like Goku.
-When Black fights Goku, he absorbs his fighting style and states that it suits this body of his.
-When Black transforms, he looks exactly like a Super Saiyan, except the color is different due to his God Ki.

Based on the above, whoever Black is, that is definitely Goku's body being used.

What remains uncertain, is why Future Zamasu is also intent on killing Goku. We know that present time Zamasu hates Goku because he's a filthy Ningen who casually mingles with Gods, and beat him during their fight, thus humiliating him. So what did future Goku do to him (while dead), to make Zamasu hate him?

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>>146455457
>hating on based fat samurai

>>146457960

Given he's essentially Toribot 2.0, he's probaly already weaker than the main cast already, which would keep the joke of the "highest power" being a pushover going.

However he can still wipe out whole universes in an instant somehow, so we'll see how it all plays out i guess.

>>146458718
Yajirobe is the best

>>146458693
Yeah I thought more of what if once Zamasu gained his god powers he decided to ruins Goku's reputation and make him out to be a filthy ningen killer, since maybe he couldn't accept the fact Goku was a good ningen, so instead of creating a clone in the cliche way he basically remade a new being that is basically Goku but that he can control, idk, inb4 Goten.

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>>146458693
>Let's recap what we know for certain:
>-Black gets stronger the more he fights, like a Saiyan
>-Black gets stronger the more damage he takes, like a Saiyan (zenkai boost)
>-Black uses a dark version of the Kamehameha, and looks like Goku.
>-When Black fights Goku, he absorbs his fighting style and states that it suits this body of his.
>-When Black transforms, he looks exactly like a Super Saiyan, except the color is different due to his God Ki.
>Based on the above, whoever Black is, that is definitely Goku's body being used.

Nothing leads ot the "conclusion" you are stating. What the fuck.
Thats the stupidest way to try to get to a conclusion I ever saw, you cant just list random shit and then claim "THUS CONCLUSION"

>saiyan
there are six known saiyans
>super sayan form looks like goku
So does Goten's super sayan form
>looks like Goku
So does Goten.
>uses kamehameha
So does goten
>his style suits this body of his
Goku and Goten literally have trained together, theri style fit each other because they are blood related.

You have reached nowhere and did nothing to show theres any more probability of it being Goku and not Goten.

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>Dragon Ball Super will never look this good
feels bad man

>>146458953
I think he just has the power of 'God' within him. he can just destroy/create at will. thats why im guessing there'll a final arc to the series involving him being 'bound' somehow.

perhaps destroying zeno will destroy everything itself

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>>146458718
Also one of the few people to call Chi Chi out on her bullshit while everyone else is scared of her.

>>146459005
>>146459153
>inb4 Goten.
I fucking called it kek, tho I honestly would like to see the big reveal be like YEP IT WAS GOTEN, CAN YOU KILL YOUR OWN SON GOKU? then inb4 Trunks either somefucking way goes Super Saiyan Blue or somehow goes SSJ3 and that's enough to beat Black.

>>146459153

See >>146455495

>>146457960
Black is going to be his new friend isn't he?

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>>146458693
Talk about being a shitty watcher,

Here, Ill spoonfeed you; thats not "FUTURE" Zamasu. Thats the same Zamasu Goku fought in the present, he tracked him down. Future ZAMASU wouldnt have met Goku in the after life, they were in completely different universes.
Present Zamasu tracked down Goku in that alternate timeline to fuck him up.
Black is literally whatever he prepared to meddle with them, Goku created a paradox by tracking down zamasu in order to assure himself he wasnt Black and thus making Zamasu create Black.

>>146458953
i imagine his fighting power is basically 0 but he's still a god

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Vegeta made him stronger too.

>>146459253
Trunks would probably kill Goten.
He wouldnt even hesitate.
Goku would hate him forever.

>>146459361
Thing is I believe this could happen since they purposely left Goten out on this whole arc so future trunks didn't learn that his best friend as a kid in this timeline was Goten, so he wouldn't hesitate to kill/beat someone he doesn't know in his timeline.

>>146459230
fucking spoilers man

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>>146459361
>CAAAN YOUUU KILL YOUR Owwwwn SON GOKU?!?!?!
>"sword beheads Goten Black"
>"Zamasu proceeds to shrivel and die while screaming about filthy Ningen"

>>146459361
Goku can't hate people

Why Goten disapear , we don't see him animore in the episodes is this because nobody gives a fuck about him or because he will be important later ?

>>146459561
he's irrelevant and annoying

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>>146459464
He would probably make an exception for someone kidnapping his seven year old and turning him into a monster.

OR someone beheading him.

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>>146459461
Too slow the episode has been out for time.

>>146459662
I saw it earlier, this was pretty good also
>Mob gets btfo
heh
>not showing when mob beats him up times 1000

also FUCK can't wait for new DBS episode, I have a feeling we will see Gogeta again.

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>>146459662
>>146459758

Is there a character toriyama regrets creating?

>>146459867
my negro

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>>146456803
>im-fucking-plying

>>146459868
goku

>>146459868
Gohan, he hates him so much he eternally cucked him.

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>>146459895

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>>146459897

>>146459868
maybe Vegeta, for a while

I can't put my finger on it, but what is the difference between Goten and Kid Goku in terms of looks/face? Even in the recent adaptations of Kid Goku he looks slightly different, is it the eyes?

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>>146459967
>no qt Zumasu fuckboy to hate fuck while he insults you for being a ningen

why live.

>>146459868
Chi Chi, he straight up says it in an interview. He had to force himself to draw her.

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>>146460067
>zumasu
excuse me anon, it's CUMasu

>>146459153

Except Goten wasn't born in Future Trunks' timeline.

If that is indeed the twist, and it is revealed later, then that's fine, but right now, Black being Goten has no basis on the facts that are presented to us.

At this moment in time, all signs point to it being Goku's body.

>>146460232
Zamasu*

so are there humans in universe 10?

I thought U6 & U7 were sort of twins so they would be mirrors of each other.
or does Zumasu have that much scope?

>>146460065
black

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>>146459153
How about:

> Black identifies as "Son Goku"

> Goten was never born in the Future timeline.

> Future Gohan/Trunks would know if Goten existed

> When Black fights Goku, he absorbs his fighting style and states that it suits this body of his.

> SSR Black to Goku: "YOU (Goku) have reached the height of beauty at my hand"

> Zamasu's interest in Goku. Not Goten.

Conclusion: Black =/= Goten

>>146460065
he had Chichi facial cues and a slimmer body. Kid goku was thick and stubby.

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>>146460299

>>146459153
Black's gimmick isn't a zenkai boost. Zenkai boost hasn't been a thing since Frieza you retard.

>Multiversefags
>Gohanfags
>Gotenfags
>HatingonbasedYajifags
>GTfags
>AntiGTfags
Cancer all of you.

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>>146452468
Ok, it's a bet then.

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>>146460065
This is likely down to an artstyle change, but at least the 3 vs 4 hair spikes is undeniable. As for Black he does seem to have subtle differences in the face shape that make him look a bit different to Goku.

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>>146460422
By "humans" Zamasu means "mortals"

He's called Goku a human, and even pic related.

>>146460624
>"Kaios are immortal"

>>146460624
thats right.

so I guess he wants to purge lots of races across the multiverse.

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>>146460439

> Black identifies as "Son Goku"
He is named Goku Black by Bulma, he never states thats his name.
> Goten was never born in the Future timeline.
He doesnt need to, Zamasu could have picked him from the present timeline after Goku left in the timemachine.
> Future Gohan/Trunks would know if Goten existed
Trunks has no idea that Goten exists. This is a plotpoint that was added on purpose.
> When Black fights Goku, he absorbs his fighting style and states that it suits this body of his.
"this body of his" doesnt mean "This is goku's body" it means "this body of his."
> SSR Black to Goku: "YOU (Goku) have reached the height of beauty at my hand"
"Have (MADE ME) reach the height of beauty at my hand"
He is saying that Goku pushing his shit in made him stronger, learn to decent subs, Xico.

Theres some reason why Goten is part of the opening, and he hasnt been shown anywhere else yet.

> Zamasu's interest in Goku. Not Goten.
Zamasu arrives after Goku has left and Goku is nowhere to be seen, the first place he will search for him will be his house. Where Goten is.

Conclusion: Black = Goten? MAYBE
Making "conclusions" in this kind of argument is childish, you can only say what might happen, going "CONCLUSION YOUR HONOUR" makes you look like a tryhard.

>>146460704
"Humans" = mortals and/or non-deities

>>146458693
I think he is a God of Destruction (Normally Purple God Ki like Beerus).

The reason he went Rosé is because he simply powered up to SSJ or SSJ2, making his dark purple shit slighty lighter.

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>>146460607
Yeah it's probably artstyle change, but even in the most "recent" depictions of Kid Goku with GT artstyle there's still something different between the two. Maybe I'm just autistic.

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>>146460607
I wish we had the design notes, I want to see if those fucking spikes are like that on purpose.

>>146460807
What about animals, I think he doesn't hate animals.
You're full of shit

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>>146455235
>He's going to take a bite out of Zamasu's ass
Pic related

>>146460569
Since cell you might mean.

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>>146460885

>>146459230
Good, that has a lot of lazy workahounds and its pretty evident.

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>>146460862
Its the face and body, they are visually built differently, you are not autistic, well maybe you are but not because of that.

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>>146460595
you forgot
>kaifags

>>146460789
>He is named Goku Black by Bulma, he never states thats his name.

Goku Black has traveled to many different planets and destroyed all life on them for "the sake of justice" while proclaiming himself to be "Son Goku".

>>146460569
thats not even the person arguing about zenkai boosts, thats someone replying to them

>>146460299
See >>146453152

>>146459943
No, you can blame the nips for that, they didn't like Gohan compared to Goku and Vegeta outside of when he went SSJ2 and just wanted more Goku/Vegeta for the next arc and Toriyama got made, so he made Gohan them. Someone with a lot of potential that their parents believe in them and the father is never around, always 'working', ultimately ending up as a goon and working his ass off and never really amounting to anything greater than a desk jockey.

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>>146460595
you forgot ass blasted Vegetafags

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>>146461000
He never once states his name. Are you even watching the show?
Bulma dubs him Goku Black.
When Zamazu showed up, he called him Black as well, not Goku, Black.

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>>146460789
> He is named Goku Black by Bulma, he never states thats his name.

Yes he does. He introduces himself as "Son Goku" to Trunks. Pay attention.

> He doesnt need to, Zamasu could have picked him from the present timeline after Goku left in the timemachine.

"COULD HAVE". With the present info we have, nothing indicates it's Goten

> Trunks has no idea that Goten exists. This is a plotpoint that was added on purpose.

Well yea if you're "what-if" scenario somehow comes true

> "this body of his" doesnt mean "This is goku's body" it means "this body of his."

Black implies several times that it's Goku's body

> "Have (MADE ME) reach the height of beauty at my hand"

Black basically mentioned Goku should be grateful that he (technically his body) reached SSR

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>>146461119
>zamazu
please

>>146461081
To be fair with Vegeta, he never really wins the main villain fight, but he has always contributed in some way.

Though it is odd they had him lose this time, he's never actually lost to Goku before, he beat the shit out of Goku in the Saiyan Arc, knocked him out in the Buu Arc, and they had a stalemate essentially with Purple Goop Vegeta until Monaka intervened.

This is the first time he's ever straight up lost to a Goku form.

>>146461000
There is a upcoming episode named "who is Goku Black", the guy never states his name and has been killing people without saying anything about him.
The whole arc is about the mystery of who the fuck he is.

And you, out of all people, would think that its just Goku.
Bulma even had to name the guy because he refused to introduce himself.

>>146461119
Nigga are YOU even watching the show? Zamasu shows up, tells him to stop, and then says he was promised the chance to kill Goku. Not once did he mention his name.

>>146447931
Taiyoken is one of the goat moves that never falls off

>>146461119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANvCLC8hBk4

When does Zamasu call him Black?

>>146460994
S-source please.

>>146461403
true, it's tiens biggest contribution to saving the day.