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Storytime - Saint Seiya Volume 21

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Reminder not to post spoilers until after the entire volume is posted.

Let's follow the story of a young boy named Seiya and his friends in a world where Greek gods rule the universe. Struggle, friendship, family, rivalries, BATTLES and lots of blood awaits them in this classic manga that inspired and still continues to inspire generations of mangaka!

Opening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGFUSEVOfJg&index=17&list=PLmHGCpzYIdflo0LCO9NRh9fDNN0o-xv8n

Without further ado, let's begin.

Volume 1 >>145382257
Volume 2 >>145430404
Volume 3 >>145478783
Volume 4 >>145515571
Volume 5 >>145569343
Volume 6 >>145621448
Volume 7 >>145667044
Volume 8 >>145717135
Volume 9 >>145767905
Volume 10 >>145823118
Volume 11 >>145878958
Volume 12 >>145932889
Volume 13 >>145986243
Volume 14 >>146041287
Volume 15 >>146093563
Volume 16 >>146142714
Volume 17 >>146188816
Volume 18 >>146280806
Volume 19 >>146329252
Volume 20 >>146391785
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Saint Seiya pastebin, courtesy of anon: http://pastebin.com/vmYRvpXN
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Incorrect terms/names so far

Knights = Saints
Shina = Shaina
Princess Sienna = Saori Kido
Lord Nobu = Mitsumasa Kido
Jab = Jabu
Morris(silver jobber) = Moses
Sanctuary Master = Pope
Mephisto = Death Mask
Didaros(Shun's master) = Daedalus
Mainstay = Main Breadwinner
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>>146440076
Shiryu gets to swag in the libra cloth.
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>>146440681
He likes to go around shirtless though
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>>146440686
In this page: how to write for 10 year olds.
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>>146440786
Can't unsee.
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Aioria is really cool.
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>>146441216
Could have killed 2 golds by now if specters didn't try to hog glory to themselves
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>>146441613
I'll be quite honest, I could never complain being a Leo. The associated imagery is always very cool, fire, courage, pride, strength, etc.
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>>146441726
Cool guys don't look at explosions.
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>>146441817
Aiolia clearly didn't get the memo about killing the bronzes if they showed up at the sanctuary.
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>>146441726

Cool guys dont look at explosions.
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>>146441782
Aioria wasn't even trying when he got captured though, best shot was just running ahead and letting this retard to get rekt
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>>146441938
Cyclops specter(?) seems really competent.
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>>146441835
Coolguysmind.
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I really like how this is basically just the sanctuary arc in reverse, with the bad guys on offense and good guys on defense this time.
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>>146441938
True enough. Does means they get to see Shaka once in their lives.
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>>146442179
Gee, I wonder what could he ever mean.
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>>146441557
>Worms belong in the dirt
Awwwww yeah
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>>146442550
I bet Shaka used that move just to say that line he thought up while waiting.
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>>146442604
Niobe at Taurus'
Myu at Cancer's
Cube/Ox/Mills on the stairs
5 Unnamed at Leo + Raimi
For those keeping count.
I don't remember if all 108 die onscreen, but I don't think so.
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>>146440435
by the way, teleporting directly to a Temple from outside is possible. Ask Ikki.

As it's possible to use space-time manipulation freely.
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>>146443183
Maybe he just ran very fast.
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>>146443183
Ikki can't teleport as far as I remember.
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>>146443156
Where were they hiding their surplices?
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>>146443269
Hypest fight so far incoming.
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>>146443331
now begins my favorite fight and also moment of all the manga, hype for shaka's monologue
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>>146441314
are the columns made of magic athena dust?
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>>146443570
>Whelp!

What?
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>>146443570
It is here.
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Probably, it's the sanctuary after all
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>>146444299
>Shaka enrolling 3 new menbers into his sect
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>>146444401
beautiful
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>>146444653
And here you can see the saints in their natural habitat, performing their ancestral mating dance.
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>>146444960
not very smart here, virgo
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>>146445015
Three gold saints sweating profusely, you can tell things are about to go hardcore.
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>>146445186
even if its on purpose
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ATHENA EXCLAMATION
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>>146444066
TROLOLOLOLO
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>>146443649
is this the Saint Seiya version of THE HEART?
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>>146445753
Funny you say this.
It's coming soon.
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>>146441782
Papillon had good reason, though, he needed a good opponent to oppose one on one so he would evolve into a stronger Spectre.
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>>146445746
>they say as they already betrayed athena and gave themselves to hades
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>>146445186
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>>146445753
No, what >>146445818 said.
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>>146445588
>The poses at the bottom
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>>146441888
Doko said he was vouching for Shiryu. Maybe he send a telepathic Memo.
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>>146446060
Mu sure loves leaving people to die.
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>>146445945
>Shiryu and Aiolia have just been chillin' all this time
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>>146446002
>See this door and what's happening
>Check the opening
>That brilliant foreshadowing

I love good anime openings
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Shota Shaka a cute, by the way
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>>146446273
They sure don't look like they've lost four senses.
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>>146443135
They technically do, but Pheonix kinda rush the job by sending them all beyond the Wailing wall
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>>146446579
>>146446631

The heart, original version.
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>>146446679
The Shaka*
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Press F
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>>146446724
The
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>>146446446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beaMh7QO91U

All I can think of is this blaring
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>>146444465
YOU PEAKED!

TEACHER, GOLD SAINT SHAKA PEAKED!
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RIP Shaka

Press F to pay respects
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>>146446446
The fungus shaped cloud was a nice touch.
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wooow took 3 of you to kill me
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>>146444401
>Reincarnation of Buddha
>When Buddha's whole thing is that by becoming Buddha he became free from the cycle of death and rebirth
Ok.

>>146446222
>Alleged reincarnation of Buddha, in a word where Hades exists, saying death is final and eternal
I will give him a pass because he is just a kid though.
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>>146446864
Dicks out for Shaka!
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>>146447089
KUBOOOOOOOOOO
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>>146447004
For the first thing, considering he talks with Buddha, it's probably just an exaggeration much like people said Saga was the reincarnation of a God.

For the second part, see Buddha's answer:
>>146446975
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>>146445851
Just because you kill babies doesn't mean you should stoop down to rapping them.
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>>146447030
See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil.
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>>146447162
Indeed, no baby deserves rapping.
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>>146447115
>For the first thing, considering he talks with Buddha, it's probably just an exaggeration much like people said Saga was the reincarnation of a God.
You're probably right, he wouldn't be able to talk with Buddha while being Buddha's reincarnation.

>For the second part, see Buddha's answer:
Buddha's answer was cool and fits the series, but funnily enough doesn't fit buddhism where death isn't final for anyone and everyone is supposed to reincarnate, not only the holy ones.
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Is Kurumada a virgo?
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>>146445851
They answered you right after:
>>146445797
>>146445844
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>>146447365
No, Sagittarius but rumors has it that some gold saints are representation of women he met.
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>>146447344
Not all Buddhism has reincarnation.
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>>146447365
Sagittarius
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>>146447365
>>>146447365
>December 6 of 1953
So no.

Shaka was based on his Ex if we go by rumors
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>>146447365
But if you mean virgo as virgo, I doubt, he drinks too much he probably lost his virgo credential some where.
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F
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>>146447344
I'll answer the second part in spoilers, read at your own risk.
Buddha isn't referring to reincarnation, but rather to awakening the 8th sense that allows to live past death. Also, Hades has more or less created hell and with it, a system that punishes humans for their sins after they have died. Supposedly, when he is finally killed at the end of the series, the souls of humans are finally allowed to reach nirvana and rest in peace after death.
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>>146447634
For fuck's sake, if they were going to reveal it anyway they could've just done so in the first place.
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>>146447574
I watched the anime so I know that. I just mean that I find it funny to hear that whole exchange coming from Buddha of all people.
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>>146447344
Why don't you read the manga?
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>>146447004
Buddha Chose to stay on earth, to help other soul get out of the reincarnation cycle.

>Alleged reincarnation of Buddha, in a word where Hades exists, saying death is final and eternal
I don't really see any real contradiction. Even here in our world, Buddha was a man who reached godhood, but other gods where prayed too.

Why, in an universe where a bunch mere mortal can defeat a god like posseidon by burning to a peak, couldn't a men such as Buddha manage to reach godhood through incarnation?
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>AE erased everything from the garden except the two trees
>flowers in the next pages
Bravo Kurumada.
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>>146447634
Shaka's ruse aside, I think these 3 guys could have achieved their objective in a much less roundabout way.
Like literally just telling, say Mu.
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>>146447814
Remember when not having the sense of touch impeded movement? Yeah.
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>>146447798
They are from the trees
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>>146447768
>Mortals
>Defeated Poseidon
Only because of Athena though, he pushed their shit in and he wasn't at full power.

>>146447804
They're under watch
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>>146447798
Even on that very page you can see that the flowers directly under the trees are intact. Which begs the question, what are these trees made of?
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>>146447634
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>>146447970
kek
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>>146447888
Ikki was able to keep going because of the 7th sense though. Gold Saints have mastery over the 7th sense
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>>146447921
Yeah, but let's be honest. Does it matter any? Even if they're instakilled after they've told what they have to tell, they'd still have accomplished what they needed to do.
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>>146447761
>Aioria doesn't have signs of tears

He's pissed
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>>146448000
I think Aiolia just really wanted to punch Saga at this point.
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>>146448110
Well, can ayone blame him?
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>butterfly can't hear them communicate with each other through telepathy
>somehow they still can't communicate with the other saints over this
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>>146448000
>>146448109
>all 3 down in less then 2 pages
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>>146448169
L-lewd.
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>>146448110
>Killed his brother
>Mindraped him
>Killed Shaka
>Wants to kill Athena

I'd be pissed too
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>>146448212
They also already took heavy damage from Shaka, and had to burn their cosmo to the maximum, plus they're wearing surplices, not their old gold cloths, don't forget all that. Aiolia is relatively fresh and considerably pissed so it's likely at this point he's not holding back at all.
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>>146447768
>I don't really see any real contradiction.
The contradiction is not Buddha and Hades, since Buddha regularly talked to other gods. In fact that is really cool that they did that. The contradiction is because Buddha was the one who preached to others all his adult life that death isn't final and eternal, that you constantly reincarnate. So seeing a reincarnation of Buddha say that death is is final and eternal was funny to me. And the "Hades exists" part is because we are seeing this arc a bunch of people come back from the dead too, making the whole thing more funny.

>Buddha Chose to stay on earth, to help other soul get out of the reincarnation cycle.
As far as I know some Buddhas do that like the Dalai Lama, but not THE Buddha. But maybe you're right and there is a kind of Buddhism where they believe what you're saying.

>>146447690
At this point they could have just said it anyway, I mean, if they are being monitored, the last page:
>>146447634
already alerted the butterfly that they're traitors.
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>>146448170
Wouldn't the others reacting give it away, tho? Mu would control it, but Aioria would for sure not keep a straight face.
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>Not a single Shaka vs Saga battle of 1000 posts in this thread
Let's just get this over with. We all know it will happen eventually.
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>>146448340
>They're invalids
>Still walking around
>Used Athena Exclamation
>Literal superhumans able to use the 7th sense
>Still able to use another Athena
Exclamation

Mu plz
stahp
just
stahp
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>>146448380
Yeah, Aiolia is pretty much a slightly more mature Seiya.

He's too hot-blooded
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>>146448340
>Aiolia please stop bullying cripples.
kek
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>>146448400
Even Aiolia can't take Mu's ramshit anymore.
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>>146448440
It took three of them to kill Shaka

Shaka>>>>Saga
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>>146448440
How is it even a contest?
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>>146448565
It took Saga to kill himself.
Saga>>>>Saga
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>>146448565
And another hot head arrives.

I really love this chapter.
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>>146448340
>>146448498
>They can't do anything anymore
>Proven wrong 4 pages later
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>>146448440
>butthurt geminifag
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>>146448668
Gotta love how this chapter is basically everyone BTFO'ing Mu.
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>>146448618
Saori is beautiful
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>>146448565
>>146448596
>>146448679
But muh inferior surplice.
But muh shaka saying himself he was overpowered.
I never cared about Saga VS Shaka, but I find this endless debate hilarious. Even more when both sides pick their arguments from this fight.
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>>146448565
Real talk here:
Aiolia = Shaka
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>>146448729
Mu is like the only rational guy in a manga full of JUSTICE and hot blood so he tends to get a lot of people mad at him
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>>146441557
Bantz level: SAVAGE.
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You know, I think the Gold Saints are like a bit weird in some respects.
They came to kill Athena! And they're like... k, I'll guard my temple.
They killed Aldebaran! And they're like... eh, okay.
They united their forces to kill Shaka! UNFORGIVABLE LET'S RUSH TO THEM AND KILL THEM WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE.
To be honest I'm pretty sure they're more mad at them using the Excalamation than killing Shaka.
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>>146449025
>Muh can't do anything
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>>146449025
this page is really cool
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>>146449093
Aldebaran was killed by a specter and Mu killed the guy so
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>>146449201
>Delivering your message from differents petals
Could you imagine if she picked them up like Shiki...Ra...Ya...A, the fuck is this shit.
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>>146449134
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>>146449201
Actually it was Aldebaran who killed the guy that killed him.
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>>146449309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbk2JTi9Feg
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>>146449356
Oh yeah, he did a Kenshiro
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>>146449201
Yeah but they didn't even seem mad.
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>>146448054
Yes, but just telling without SUFFERING wouldn't be MANLY.
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Ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwV0LcsIEsk&index=20&list=PLmHGCpzYIdflo0LCO9NRh9fDNN0o-xv8n
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>>146449365
Let's be honest, if you were Aiolia and Milo, would you trust Mu to be the center of your Athena Exclamation?
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End of Vol. 21
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>>146449365
The same as when a sun of fire collides with a sun of ice.
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>>146449472
Fucking Shiryu.
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>>146449544
Man I love Surpliced, the amount of details is ridiculous
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>>146449201
>First panel of this page
>Athena's statue with exclamation point
>Literal Athena Exclamation
Kek
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Gotta love how this volume Shiryu tagged along with the cool guys without doing jackshit except looking scared and screaming.
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>>146449540
He's strong as fuck so yeah
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>>146446060
I'll be honest, I don't understand.
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>>146444465
>>146444525
>>146444594
>>146444653
>>146444733
The OVAs changed this scene to make Shaka look more powerful.
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>>146449718
Well this is the GS time to shine, but yeah it's pretty hilarious.
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>>146449597
Hey, if Mu, Aioria, and Miro have 7 senses, and Saga, Camus and Shura have 3 senses left, Shiryu's 6 senses are above the average in that room.
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>>146447344
>where death isn't final for anyone and everyone is supposed to reincarnate, not only the holy ones.
But even Hades recognise in Seiya the reincarnation of a previous live
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>>146449748
Next volume.
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>>146449540
Would you trust Milo? I mean, just by being there he guarantees that they won't kill anyone with it.
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Is this the most hype volume of them?
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>>146448337
>So seeing a reincarnation of Buddha say that death is is final and eternal was funny to me
He most likely was talking about the mortal flesh of an human. No one live eternally.
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>>146446864
F
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>>146449718
FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT YOU SHOULD REALLY STOP READING PAST THIS POINT AND GTFO THE THREAD IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS.
At least Shiryu is the only bronze that does something useful this whole sub-arc, specifically right at the beginning of the next volume.
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>>146449093
Pretty much

It'd have been better if Kurumada bothered to write the boner they have in their hearts for Shaka better than just "but I like him so much so everyone will like him too"
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>>146449913
It surely is the most "shit is getting real" volume in the series. But there's still something left, the true moment for the golds to shine.
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>>146449978
What are you talking about, didn't you see the legendary UNICORN GALLOP?
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>tfw Thanatos starts torturing Seiya and plays with his sister

Man he made a mistake there
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>>146447761
Awkwaaaaard...
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>>146445746
How are they talking?
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>>146450221
keep reading
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Is the next EP today?
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Wait, so there's an 8th sense now?

That's dumb as fuck

>Start of the series, 6th sense is super special thing only knights can do
>Oh, no, wait,m the SEVENTH sense is even more special and more super-r
>BUT THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND, THE 8TH SENSE
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>>146446631
I wonder if Kurumada got paid for this page.
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>>146450282
It doesn't stop there, just saying.
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>>146448400
Based Aiolia.
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>>146450282
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Consciousnesses
It's from here. Arayashiki is ālaya-vijñāna.
So you can be sure there is no 9th sense coming up.
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>>146448170
>>butterfly can't hear them communicate with each other through telepathy
Say who? Myu was a Psy, I am pretty sure the Butterfly can hear thoughts.
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>>146448734
You could even say she has a goddess' beauty.
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>>146450373
>>146450402
shhh, it stops at 8 for the saints though.
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>>146449992
Remember that was the first time the 3 not-golds actually fought properly. Up until then they had a tiff with Mu, tried to slam Kannon and that's about it.

But now they've Exclamationed Shaka and the shit gets real for everyone.
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>>146449978
I had guessed he would eventually do something since he's there but it's still pretty funny how he spent this volume.
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>>146450390
>What is Big Will
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>>146450473
They're emphasizing "M-muh Shaka ;_;" not "M-Muh Exclamation"
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So 3 Gold Saints can use the Athena Exclamation, but they don't necessarily have to be wearing their Gold Cloths as shown in this volume.

Since Seiya and co can raise their Cosmo to the level of Golds, does that mean they can also use the Athena Exclamation?
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>>146450390
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>>146450514
It's even funnier when you realize that all this cool stuff is happening around him and he can't even see it.
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>>146448565
SCORPIO IS IN DA HOUSE!
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>>146450593
>>146450548

>>146450465
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>>146450402
If 6th sense is like intuition and being able to store cosmo what are 7th, 8th, 9th supposed to be like? Some form of superior awareness? Straight up power-ups of the 6th?
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>>146448738
It's moot anyway. everyone know the strongest Gold Saint was Ophiuchus.
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>>146450685
The 9th sense (but that's from stuff assignted editorial wrote with Kurumada's permission so if he follows it up or doesn't is anyone's guess) is called "Big Will" and flatout attaining godhood
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>>146450685
6= Intuition
7= MIRACLES
8= Arayashiki
the rest is spoilers.
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>>146449414
>To be continued...
OH NO, YOU DIDN'T!
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>>146450571
Yes, but they wouldn't do that, ganging up 3vs1 it's not what a sain...oh.
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>>146449472
So tomorrow is that scene...
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>>146450685
6th: intuition.
7th: being able to sense one's own life=True Cosmo
8th: being able to sense life after death
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>>146448565
>Two of them were beating Shaka even before Saga got involved
>None of them wanted to fight Shaka in the first place
Stop being retarded, Shakafag.
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>>146450685
6th = literally the 6th sense, telepathy, intuition and the like
7th = cosmos
8th = Arayashiki
9th = bullshit, how is this even a sense?
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>>146450890
>>146450862
Sixth sense also allows for the fancy psychic stuff Mu has been doing.
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>>146450173
>plays with his sister
W-what?!
I-is it lewd?
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>>146448565
I came here to talk shit and be useless. And I just finished to talk shit.
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>>146450941
You will see in a few days.
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>>146450890
9th Sense is speculated to be the Big Will/Divine Will that actual Gods have.

>>146448565
Shaka was already losing to Camus and Shura even before Saga got involved. When he hit him with his Another Dimension, Shaka has a comment regardless of what TL you use from whatever language stating he doesn't know if he can survive a second hit from AD.

None of them were fighting him to kill him. They only kill him when he uses Heaven's Treasure as a last ditch resort and his ultimate attack required them to stand still and debate their action while he took their senses away. Please don't be dumb.
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>>146449093
I guess it was the last straw or something. I guess they were still in denial abut their Betrayl to that point and Athena Execution was the big wake up point.
>>146449201
>Aldebaran was killed by a specter and Mu killed the guy so
No, It's Aldebaran who killed the Spectre. And also saved Mu by warning him about the Fragrance.
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>>146450889
>Stop being retarded, Shakafag.
Pic related.

Now this thread will either time out really damn fast or be here in the morning.
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>>146451018
I'm not a Sagafag either. Try again, BR.
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Oh shit my first SS powerlevel discussion. I'll go grab some snacks.
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>>146449687
How did I never notice that before.
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>>146449540
Actually I would, he is the strongest Psyker, he definitely should be in charge of the big ball of energy.
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>>146451110
>implying I give a shit who is who in a discussion as old as the internet itself
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>>146451018
I doubt it, this is still an English speaking board. That said:

>>146450940
>>146451004
I still think Shaka's biggest display of power comes from Next Dimension, where he manages to, from death/Nirvana, from the future, from Shun's cloth, create a projection strong enough to fight with his predecessor (who, to be fair, was also fighting near death as a projection)
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>>146448618
In this page you can see how much Kurumada improved since first volume.
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>>146451120
The irony is that except that time that Mu BTFO Aphrodite and Deathmask, any time two gold saints were facing at full strength it became a no-contest with a 1000 days war.
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>>146449093
>>146449992
They're more angry at the fact that Saga and Co. used the Athena Exclamation on Shaka, not just because he died, by doing that they're worse than scum, like these pages says:
>>146445746
>>146446864
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>>146451237
You obviously do give a shit since your trying to incite it, nigga.
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>>146451413
It's also that they can sense Shaka dying, and they know he's "prepared to die". Shaka is setting up the whole thing. Also ganging up, also muh Exclamation, and overall being with Hades when they're Gold Saints.
Anyone would be pissed.
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>>146451430
>if you note something is going to happen means you're inciting it

I'm here just to watch two sides shout at each other while managing to do jack shit to convince themselves of their arguments fampai

>>146451413
If they said killing Shaka was the top of the cherry as opposed to just emphasizing THEY DARED TO KILL SHAKA that'd work better, what with the waterworks when he dies too when Aldebaran had none.
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>>146450555
This page already covered that: >>146446864
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>>146451687
And then Milo shows up and goes "I COULDN'T SIT STILL after they KILLED SHAKA" and the bit I mentioned about no one giving Aldebaran the waterworks treatment goes unadressed.
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>>146450282
The 6th sense is the cosmo the Saint use
The 7th sense is the one Sense that encompass them all
The 8th sense is actually a concept that exist in real life, as shown here >>146450390
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>>146451626
You're oversimplifying it, i already posted the pages that explained that using the AE is an unforgivable act, it's not the same thing with Aldebaran. Also, >>146451496
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>>146451237
>a discussion as old as the internet itself
>mfw this is literally true.

I feel old...
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>>146446744
>cosmo nuke
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>>146439911
/r/ing shun with nunchuks
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>>146452155
No, you're actually not bothering to address the points brought and hoping piggybacking other posts or pages we've already read will somehow win that out

>Shaka dies
>Nearly everyone cries down to Mu who says FORGIVE US
>everyone emphasizes THEY DARED TO KILL SHAKA as opposed to "how far have you fallen" when they face the revived gold saints

>Aldebaran dies
>none of the above
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>>146450826
ganging up on a god is fine.
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>>146452384
here y'go buddy
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>>146452384
It's in the Volume 15 dump that's linked in OP's post.
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>>146450826
What's the difference between an Athena Exlamation and what the bronzies did the there? Since they're not as strong as goldies they can use it?
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>>146452780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1w2aASUpWQ
I can't help but hear it.
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>>146452844
the biggest difference between AE and what the bronzes did there is Kurumada hadn't thought of actual AE yet
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>>146452977
I had figured.
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>>146452844
Athena exclamation = everyone puts their cosmos into a single point to cause a big explosion
What they did there = everyone uses their cosmos to power up the arrow, then do it again to power up Seiya.
More importantly, how the fuck did Seiya survive hitting the main breadwinner head first?
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>>146453211
IT'S ATOMS, I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN SHITS.
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>>146453211
MIRACLES. That's what happens when you burn your cosmos to the top(7th sense), miracles.
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>>146452780
It gets gayer every time I see it.
I love it
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>>146452169
Who would be stronger between Raoh and non-sick Toki?
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>>146453492
I do recall raoh saying that toki would've rekt him if only he had his health.
But then again raoh is always fucking wrong, like holy shit, get it together.
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>>146448565
Shaka's Ohm was destroyed by mere Cosmo attacks
Saga's sense removal is more effective and faster than Tenbu Horin
Ikki stated in Next Dimension that Gemini are considered the most powerful GS
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>>146452412
Only Aioria, Shiryu and Mu cried, what Mu meant by "forgive us" is that they could have helped Shaka when they had the chance, he knew Shaka was prepared to die, but not like this, so it's not the same thing with Aldebaran, because he was already death when Mu arrived, and Niobe died by the Great Horn.

It was explained that by doing the AE Saga and the others would be seen as worse than traitors, so they're not just mad at the fact that Shaka died.
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>>146454292
Fucking Disgaea
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>>146452780
Oh just noticed it looks like an atom
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Eh, why not. Italian op/ed for Hades saga. I tried to find a non-spoilery video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp7IKzJgM7w
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>>146455713
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTfmkDRHxBs
I don't know if I like or hate it
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>>146456043
Oh my god, every italian anime opening is the same eurobeat shit
What have you done to me, italian anon
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>>146453983
Yeah, it's like my point in this is that in SS (of all things), where points are conveyed with blood, sweat and tears, Kurumada could've done Aldebaran's death better especially in comparison to this.
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>>146455713
Sounds ok, but I donÂŽt see the point of making a new song opening instead of just adapting the existing ones.
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>>146456909
I think Kurumada has a grudge against Taurus. Even in ND Taurus jobs terribly
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>>146457191
In the same pose no less
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>>146457191
Just to be a shocker for people (now and then it's a good thing), Taurus ain't even my sign or something, but Aldebaran was just too big of a bro to be done away like that

At least in the anime they had Mu actually mourn this death (which I'd expect since they were always shown to be buddies), but the way he just does away with him in the manga always stuck out like a sore thumb to me
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>>146456770
Nah, that's just the new ones. Also, they're more techno.
>>146457076
Long tradition, full rights to the songs so they can sell them/make lives/CDs. Consider that these are for tv/mainstream market which is extremely localized. For some things, like old dragonball movies we have like two dubs (a niche one, and a mainstream one). Anyway, these have their own cult following, with every generation considering their childhood ones the best.
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so whats pic related's endgame? he's just as important as a bronze maybe even more so
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>>146457191
To be fair, OX was killed by a Judge instead of a regular Specter, he died because he was overconfident, had he unleashed the Great Horn sooner, Suikyo might have died.
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>>146457597
I'd like to know first what the fuck is up with Dohko saying that he has to betray Athena now
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>>146455713
I'm guessing the lyrics are full cringe, but at least it's way better instrumentally than the localized regions used to get when they decided to make new songs.
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>>146457862
The long running speculation is that Dohko thinks he needs to betray Athena because Suikyo might have known Saori showing up would cause the whole "universe imploding itself" thing the next WIP images showed, but ND has more than its share of plots to wrap and Kurumada just keeps throwing more on the fire, so I don't doubt at all it turns out to be something else entirely
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>>146457892
Los Guardianes del Universo sounds great when you get a better singer.

https://youtu.be/5R3Lv7f92rE?t=1m14s
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>>146450390
omega is the 9th sense though :^)
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>>146457755
the art in that chapter didn't help: it did look like he died because some popsicles attached to his Cloth.

The volume fix it some, by having the Cloth show cracks around the popsicles.
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>>146456909
At least he killed his opponent, that's something.

>>146457388
If i recall correctly, they only had one moment together (when they talk about Gemini), i don't know why people assume they were close friends.
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>>146458823
Omega isn't Big Will. It's something different.
It's the whole point.

If anything, one might argue Dynamis was the 9th Sense
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>>146457892
We also have a couple of old ones.
I nostalgia big time to the first one, to be honest, so I can't be objective about it. It's a bit moody in the beginning to underline the harshness of training, then it goes full epic for the chorus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es6UdnZRML8

The theme is about the same for the second one, which was used for the original run of the second half of sanctuary, Asgard, and Poseidon. I think that in general the contrast between the beginning and the second part works pretty well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1bjjw-_qvs
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>>146458337
viva golombia ::DDDD
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>>146458823
No, even the official booklet stuff says it's on a separate axis :^)

>>146458924
>i don't know why people assume they were close friends.
And we only had Milo saying Hyoga could tank his shit as a Saint to Camus originally and we all know what became of that, so if they don't call each other "friends" then it doesn't count? OK then
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>>146457892
This one always get me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFdC99igXrg
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>>146458974
Sounds like whatever played in bars when my mom was young
I mean it's not bad but
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>>146459201
>Guys talk to each other like buddies
>They might just be buddies

Yeah it was a leap of faith
>>
/r/ing yeeert
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>>146458924
Probably because Mu isn't really seen making a playful joke with anyone else in the series, and Aldebaran is just the kind of guy who you know is pretty much good friends with anyone. He's the only gold without a stick up his ass, really.
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>>146452412
As said before. Shaka was the last straw.
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>>146456909
Aldebaran death was noble. He killed his foe and saved Mu.
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>>146457388
>but Aldebaran was just too big of a bro to be done away like that
>At least in the anime they had Mu actually mourn this death (which I'd expect since they were always shown to be buddies), but the way he just does away with him in the manga always stuck out like a sore thumb to me
Then you are not reading it right.

Not only does Mu ACTUALLY MOURN THE DEAHT of Aldebaran, But Aldebaran literally go Kenshiro on the Spectre but also save Mu's life.

His death was noble and his last fight memorable.
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>>146459979
>you thought it could have been done better?!
>can't even grasp the comparative of "actual" between the manga and anime version
>YOU are not reading it right!!
Holy fucking shit my sides.

>>146459470
You mean this? (pic related)
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>>146460132
>>can't even grasp the comparative of "actual" between the manga and anime version
You are obviously the one not reading it right because Mu actually mourn the death of Taurus in the Manga.

The way it is done in the manga does in no way stuck as a sore thumb, Taurus fight to the death and beyond and killed a mortal foe.
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>>146460132
>>can't even grasp the comparative of "actual" between the manga and anime version
"Actually" imply that something happened. Saying that Mu "actually mourned Aldebaran in the anime" imply that the mourning was almost inexistent in the Manga, which is false.
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>>146460132
Manga, mourning a comrade
Anime, mourning my super close friend.
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>>146460487
Yeah, I said the anime version felt like "actual" mourning while in the manga you can count the number of panels dedicated to it in your hand when SS thrives in that sort of stuff.

Took a bit but you made it. GJ Pedro!
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>>146458833
Am i the only one that actually likes the Hisō Byaku Renge? people complain because it looks very simple, but i think having spears of ice as a technique it's badass.

Also, i love that moment when Suikyo is pushed back by a single hit from OX, those panels that shows the stairs and the Surplice wrecked are awesome. it shows that Ox is not a weakling at all.
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About Aldebran, this was post in a previous thread:
>>146340565
>I don't know if such a concept exist, but is Aldebaran a sort of "Reverse-Jobber". He look like he is just there to be defeated, but
>-In the sanctuary, he actually let the 3 other knights win after Seiya because he sensed they might be up to something, even being the one to help them first get in tune with the 7th sense
>-In the Poseidon war, it looked like he was jsut there to make Siren look powerful, whereas Siren was unable to defeat him, being fooled by the the mother fucking best defence trick ever and still manage to give a run of his money to Siren while just being at a 1/100th of his strength. We don't even know if Siren could have really beaten him because of Athena.
>-In the Hades war, he is the first causality, but through poison alignment and in the end, still managed to defeat his enemey whil saving the life of Mu at the same time by warning him about the fragrance.

>Taurus actually had a well hidden game, all in all.

And I'll add that in ND, not only was he smart enough to see the fight against the bronze was useless and knew it was for the best to let them pass (again, it look like Taurus is actually good at seeing who is evil and who is not), but he also stop the whole Spectre army before Sukyion has to be the one to defeat him. and it is in way an easy fight. Ox litteraly run on the ground Sukyion before being defeated

I think people who sya kurumada is dissing the Taurus are not really paying attention.
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>>146460593
Hisou Byaku Renge is pretty boss really, but offing Ox in the same fashion as Aldebaran just to go "he's a powerhouse but he doesn't stick around to do a lot" is just tired at this point.

You don't have to go full Shiori and have him tackle all underworld judges at once or whatever, but just be a little different for once
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>>146460584
>while in the manga you can count the number of panels dedicated to it in your hand
several pages, actually.

>Took a bit but you made it. GJ Pedro!
I was on it from the start.
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>>146461087
>but just be a little different for once
The difference he really made was in understanding the good intend of the bronze and letting them pass, whill protecting their rear and slowing down the Spectre army.

>but offing Ox in the same fashion as Aldebaran
Their death is quite different, once is killed by fragrance, the other by Ice.

All the Gold are Powerhouse. But the Taurus is one of the first house, it's almost inevitable he will be among the first to go.
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>>146461087
Rasgado didn't even do much, actually.

It's HOW you portray people do what they do... Ox is especially at fault
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>>146461341
He actually isn't. As pointed there>>146461327
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>>146461341
>Rasgado didn't even do much, actually.

Yeah, it was why I said "FULL Shiori" and capped it with that example. When you go full Shiori you get single-man-Athena-Exclamation and single-man-equivalent-of-Four-Athena-Exclamations.
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>>146461411
Suikyo's technicque has no IMPACT as attack. The flaws in the magazine art made Ox's defeat look really bad... ending up in the same position as Aldebaran also made it look like recycling.

>>146461528
that's not FULL SHIORI, given something like that did happen only THAT time.
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>>146461646
That's not part of her worse excesses?

Then do let us on the loop
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>>146461697
That's probably her worst excess along with Radhamanthys the Terminator and her trying(and, frankly, failing) to hype Shion

But going FULL doesn't mean going WORST.
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>>146461797
Then what would you call "Full Shiori"? Far as I know saying someone's gone "full something" means they've gone the worst of it.

That's an honest question BTW
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>>146462014
Ah, that's explain the misunderstanding: I always seen it interpreted as empathising BOTH good AND bad parts, not only the bad parts.
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>>146462686
It must strike personal perception.

Which isn't exactly something easy, especially to do en masse as perception chances from person to person
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>>146449667
>>146449544
I know it was a standard thing for the 80s, but it's always a bit weird seeing really detailed armors and mechanical stuff next to such goofy cartoon faces.
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>>146441557
This sickest burn yet.
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wow manga is even better than the show!
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