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Why does Illya get the short stick in every single Fate route?

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Why does Illya get the short stick in every single Fate route?

She never got her route made.

She was implied to die in the Fate route.
She literally gets eye gouged, crawls around desperately looking for her partner, and gets crushed by Gil in the UBW route.
She sacrifices herself in HF.
Even in the alternate universe based around her, she can never be with the one man she really loved, because the age difference is an actual thing there, instead of just the meme it is in the Fate games.

Illyasviel Von Einzbern is truly a character with no good endings, and that makes me sad, considering how much I like her as a character and person.

Her actions all make sense and become infinitely more tragic when you see that Shirou was, according to her grandfather for her entire life, the reason that her parents are gone. Shirou is the big bad to her, and only when she meets shirou, and starts to love him, she can accept her life, and dies for him.

Illya deserves a route. I want to see her happy for once, I don't care if it has no H-scene, or if it's the shortest route, but I just want a happy ending for her character. I want to see her survive and finally fulfill her dream. I don't care about no caster, no rider route, but Illyasviel really does deserve one.
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>>146410633
She's sub human so it doesn't matter.
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>>146410737
>literally as german/aryan as possible
>absolutely top tier magician
>subhuman simply because she's a vessel for grail

how does it feel having such shitty standards for what is "sub human"
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>>146410633
>She never got her route made
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at least we masturbate to illya, she should be happy with that
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>>146410633
I want to give her my short stick.
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>>146411203
I dont. She is best girl and overall #1 waifu. Never once have fapped to her.
>>146411152
Prisma Illya seems to be going into the yuri scene more. It's her as a main character. I meant a fate/stay night route, like Fate, Unlimited Blade Works, or Heavens Feel.
>>146411217
l-lewd
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>>146411152
what a cop out answer.
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>>146411853
>Has millions of dollars
>Doesn't give a fuck anymore

Well that explains alot
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>>146411942
I was considering making that the threads op. But the cut out eyes, while bringing tears to my own, and hers, felt more justified.
>>146412034
True. He still hasnt finished tsukihime 2.0 after long years.
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>>146411853
True. Magical girl Illya is pretty is adifferent person from the psychopath rapist loli from Fate.

It would have been cool a path where you joined hands with her and Shinji.
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>>146410633
What about Lancer? He should be destroying everyone with his super speed and one-hit weapon but the plot won't let him.
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>>146412374
Not psychopathic, anon.

She was told her entire life, that shirou ruined her own life, basically.

Shirou, in her mind, took away her mom and dad, and left her all alone.

Since she's quite literally never become close to anyone after that, once she starts to like shirou, she gets ptsd that he'll leave her, and goes full yandere.

Thats if she grows to like shirou, if she doesn't, she does go psycho path loli. Because then 'her grandfather was right, and shirou must die'
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>>146412516
got stuck with shitty rng with shitty master after shitty master.

no one cares about him since he isnt a cute loli.
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>>146410633
Her spinoff series was also hijacked by Shirou. Poor Ilya.
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>>146410633

I'm pretty happy with prisma as her route. Miyu is much better for her than Shirou anyway.
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>>146412768

At least with Miyu you don't get the rather creepy Incest thing (Even if they're not blood-related).
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>>146412768
I feel like Illya isn't the same in Prisma. This is her as a happy pure life, it feels like illya is a lot more of a normalfag in prisma.
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>>146412516
This
Lancer deserved better in every route
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>>146410633

She's literal shit on every media except prisma
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>>146413013

And wouldn't she want that? Instead of being cast aside and abandoned, she got a normal life without fear, loathing and doubt?

F/SN Illya would probably hate her Prisma counterpart, because she would remind her that she didn't have to suffer. That her fate wasn't preordained, and yet it happened anyway, and her life was stolen from her.
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>>146412516
Wasn't he almost the main servant in FHA?
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>>146412893
She's going to get an ending with Shiro anyway. People who think otherwise are insane.
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>>146413342

I don't know how or what kind of ending that would be though. Shirou's already been claimed by the old hags there.
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>>146410633
Is it best that Luvia does not get a route and is instead just a high-tier supporting char?
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>>146413175
This. She is what Erica is in Prisma.
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>>146413450

Her route would be her winning the Rinbowl
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>>146413175
>She's literal shit on every media except prisma

You got that the other way around. What makes Illya a compelling character is her personality. Prisma yanked that out totally and instead made her a generic shoujo protag with a Nii-chan fetish.
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>>146413013

Yeah she is definitely quite a bit different as she haven't gone through all the things the original Illya did.

She's a lot closer to the Illya we see shortly at the start of fate/zero. Which I guess makes sense as she's much closer to the age of Prisma illya there than in fate/stay night and she also hasn't gone through all the hardships yet.
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>>146413618
>She's a lot closer to the Illya we see shortly at the start of fate/zero. Which I guess makes sense as she's much closer to the age of Prisma illya there than in fate/stay night and she also hasn't gone through all the hardships yet.

She's that Illya without all the heartbreak and brainwashing.

F/SN Illya is a broken bird. Her Prisma counterpart was spared that heartbreak.
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>>146413618
>>146413706
How the hell you'd make a sadistic magical girl Illya show anyway, trying to femdom her onii-chan and rape Miyu and the meidos?
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>>146413186
We know F/SN illya would hate her counterpart, as F/SN illya is literally kuro.

I know its the better fate for her, but I cant help but love both.
>>146413565
I agree, prisma makes her a normie.
>>146413618
>>146413706
She's sn if she had her perfect world, but illya is only illya because she got screwed over.
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>>146413565
>What makes Illya a compelling character is her personality

How is a sociopathic little bitch a compelling character? Granted, it's not like she's a great character in Prisma, but its writer is better than Nasu. Every Nasu character is extremely shallow.
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>>146410633

She gets F/HA.
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>>146413850

You know what I'd like to see? If Prisma ever got away from the Miyuverse and continued, a version where Prisma Illya got sucked through to the F/SN world, and had to go up against her F/SN self. She's have to confront the idea that her happy ending wasn't always in the cards, that she could have ended up very different and maybe she'd even try to redeem her counterpart.
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>>146410633
Then watch/read Prisma Ilya, autismo.
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What do Illya kisses taste like, /a/?
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>>146413210
Nothing to be proud of seriously. Do people even like HA?
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>>146411152
>Has the potential to be the best character in the entire series due to her heaps of backstory
>Ends up being known as the most popular example of Yuri

I never seen such a waste of a character in my life.
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>>146413850

Kuro only hated Illya in the start though, I think the same would probably happen if the two Illya's met eachother, with Prisma Illya finding a way to save her and becoming friends instead.

Assuming it was F/SN Illya that got into prisma's world at least, if Prisma Illya got into the F/SN world then they would probably just both end up having a bad end.
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>>146414326
I think if prisma went into Fate/sn, she'd die.
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>>146414374

Kaleidosticks are pretty hax though, and servant installs would mean they could actually stand up to their counterparts, even if briefly. Caster vs Caster-Install, Lancer vs Lancer-Install, I would pay to see those.
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>>146414281
Before Prisma, Illya was merely used as comic relief.
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>>146414374

yeah perhaps. I'm not really sure how the powerlevels compare, like installs vs actual servants.

Maybe if she had both ruby and sapphire she would have a decent chance with 2wei form.
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>>146410891

but anon, she literally isn't human
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>>146414068
But then she'd also have to face Shirou who is literally killing himself in order to become a hero.
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>>146414374
Prisma's Illya will just trigger FSN Shirou's hero hard on even harder.

>>146414560
I doubt an install can win against your average since installs are still human at end of the day and sufficient damage will kill them, Servants need either a heart shot or head shot for sure kill.
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>>146414231

Should ask Kuro or Miyu about that.
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>>146414671

After Miyu Shirou, I'm sure she could face that.
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>>146414841
Unless she steps into HF. That would be just sad.
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>>146414231
Semen and cheap scotch.
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>>146414922

HF Shirou is Miyu Shirou, just with a different priority on who to save. One wants to save his little sister, the other his love interest. For that matter, Miyu Shirou was in love with his timeline's Sakura before Shinji ganked her.
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>>146415041
Fate or UBW Shirou will be more problematic with Prisma's Illya since he gets more wrecked harder by servants.
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>>146414263

Of course? It's pretty good
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>>146415131
At least Fate Shirou's primary antagonist is Illya more so than Berserker. Prisma vs Fate Illya would make more sense than UBW where Gilgamesh would just wreck both of them at the same time.
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Because Fate is supposed to be edgy and children dying brutally is a top-tier edge.
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>>146410891
>>146414585
Shes' not subhuman but superhuman.
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>>146415417
I doubt Gil will even take Prisma Illya serious until he gets his ass blown up again.
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Because of how this shit works, there is a universe where Ilya gets best end
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>>146414786
w-why would two girls know what Illya's kisses taste like? Illya isn't gay you know...
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>>146415538

And what is best end for her? A long and happy life with her family and friends?
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>>146415600

If she's not gay, she does a poor job of showing it. She hasn't kissed a single man yet.
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>>146415508
He'll get around to it when he needs to find a suitable vessel for the Grail. Wasn't that the main reason he killed her in the first place?
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So who here has their money on Illya dying at the end of Prisma?
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>>146415775
The only cup who has even the slightest chance of dying at the end is Kuro.
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>>146415823
That would genuinely suck.
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>>146415775

Very doubtful, so far barely any characters have died in Prisma. Although it hasn't shown too much of it in the latest manga chapters, it is still a magical girl show, so will most likely have a happy ending.
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>>146416025
Well of course I have no doubt in my mind as well that the mahou shoujo aspect of the series will completely override the Fate tragedy.

Just throwing it out there that if one of the main three does die, Kuro has the highest chance of sacrificing herself.
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>>146416096
And I quoted the wrong guy. Fuckin whatever. >>146415964
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>>146415690
Yeah... well, she just hasn't found Mr. Right yet. Not kissing a boy doesn't mean you're gay! Illya doesn't even think girls should be able to love girls!
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Why didn't Kiritsugu use his anti magic hax bullet against Kirie
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>>146415704
If managed to kill Fate Illya first, I doubt Prisma Illya will be a suitable one since he just want to fuck the world up so Shinji will still get grail'd.
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>>146416180

She only says boys there, not girls. Illya doesn't want to admit it but she clearly is interested in girls as well.
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>>146415690
>She hasn't kissed a single man yet.
Not for lack of trying or desire.
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>>146410633
Ilya is kind of a freak though when you really think about it, especially in the Fate route.

No one calling on her killing Archer I can somewhat understand, since he was a servant, and it was part of the war, but she kills Shinji, and no one really says anything.

Yeah, like, I know Shinji's a dick, and he was a master, but Ilya was involved with an outright homicide of someone, and what's worse, is that she gets all buddy-buddy with Sakura after the end of the route, while Sakura herself is left out of the loop as to whether her brother is even dead.

Does no one see how weirdly awkward that is?
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>>146416317
I'm not completely sure about this, but Gilgamesh only goes bonkers after he gets paired up with Shinji. Being forced to tag along with the most worthless piece of trash in the War must have driven him insane or something. This doesn't happen in Fate because Illya kills Shinji before he can seek Kotomine's safety.
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>>146410633
Nigga, you are crying over a cup. It's a fucking cup, just grow the fuck up already.

You are literally crying over spilled milk.
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>>146416530

Shinji was an asshole who treated Sakura like shit

If anything Illya did a favour for her
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>>146416600
/a/ 2016
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>>146416650
Yeah, that's the excuse, but murdering someone because they're an asshole isn't really considered cool in most cases regardless.

I mean Sakura doesn't even know he's dead. She's left wondering about it, as shown in the epilogue to the route. There isn't even a scene where it's like, "I know you killed him, and I'm fine with that cause he's a dick", it's just a big open question for her, while the murderer acts like her friend.

It's a bit fucked.
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>>146416725
Did Shirou know?
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>>146413500
Luvia secondhand sleeps with old men.
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>>146416776
Yeah, I'm 99% sure. He was killed just a few minutes after losing Rider.

Not even brought up once, though.
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>>146416650
>Shinji was an asshole who treated Sakura like shit

Yea wow I remember this. That's the kind of character writing that really keeps you on the edge of your chair
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>>146414484
Or loli bait fap fodder.
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>>146411152
Yeah and it's taken by Shirou.
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>>146416839

Didn't Illya mention it to him at some point? Or was that in one of the bad ends?
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>>146416839
>>146417011
Illya does mention killing Shinji to shirou. Its a scene in the mansion when she has him tied up to the chair and shit.
>>146415538
Theres also a universe where she gets joins mutant space monkey pirates who are looking for the one piece in Fuyuki, since there's the whole "infinite universes infinite possibilities"
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>>146417011
I cannot remember a specific instance, but I am certain Shirou knows about Shinji's death, but it's never really made much of a big deal, which bugs me since in the route right after, Shinji gets saved, and is shown to be getting on better terms with Sakura, so it's not like he's utterly irredeemable.
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Why is this so popular again?
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>>146417156
I believe, maybe its in a bad end, but i'm certain Illya says "him? I killed him as I was watching you fight with rider" as he ran away or some shit.
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>>146416725

It was a war though? Shinji was willingly being part of it, he knew of the risks

>I mean Sakura doesn't even know he's dead.

Sakura is smart and knew about the war she can add 2+2
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>>146417237

>He wouldn't get erect if a qt top loli like Illya sat on top of him

>>146417156

Because it' just another war casuality and there is nothing that they cna do, Shinji still can be saved by the end of UBW
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>>146417237
Shirou is really a lolicon. His hidden stash is loli porn, that's why he gonna get murdered if women in his house found it.
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>>146417156
>There are people who care about Shinji of all people
Wasn't that nigga about to melt an entire School? He probably fugged Rider all day, so he died with no remorse.
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>>146416813

Rin isn't an old man, nor does she have anything to do with them.
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>>146417358
It's femdom you shitbag
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>>146410633
Because she was made for bullying. Even in her own spinoff series she seems to spend most of the time getting beaten up and molested. Not that I'm complaining.
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>>146417259
But it's not even really brought up. Do you get my point? For instance, Kuzuki's death in UBW is handled by Shirou being awkward around Issei, and Issei himself assuming he left because the guy was a nomad in the first place.

There's nothing like with in regards to Sakura, or any of the other characters even mentioning his death.

>>146417384
Okay, see, there's a difference between liking a character, and wondering why there's no narrative consequences, no matter how small, to his death.

He wasn't an outsider. He was a popular guy at school, and he just went 'missing'.
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>>146417448
Judging by the VN's, if it's anything, old Shirou-kun is into rape (and loli)

Truly a hero I can rest my hat on
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>>146417358
>>146417448
It's both. Lolidom is a god tier fetish.
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>>146417539

So what would the hidden stashes of the other characters be?
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>>146417519
And likewise, there's Ilya to consider. Even if Sakura put things together, is it not a bit fucked that Ilya herself doesn't mention, nor seem to care? All the while actually seeming to like Sakura?

Remember, at this point, Ilya probably didn't know much about their relationship other than being brother and sister.
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>>146417350
And then teasingly saying with the smuggest face possible
>Onii-chan, I can feel something hard poking me...
>I knew it... you like little girls don't you? You dirty lolicon~
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>>146417519

Seiba would be food porn with red headed half lion- half man chiefs

Rin is probably into /u/ and threesomes

Rider is into sub

Sakura is into dom
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>>146416600

I'll spill my milk on that cup, if you know what I mean.
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>>146417730(me)

Meant to reply to >>146417601
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>>146417730
What would Illya's stash contain?
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Is it just me or was the latest episode of 3rei the shittiest episode thus far? It's right when things started HAPPENING in the manga but I literally felt nothing towards everything past the doll shenanigans.
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>>146417539
>gets dominated by Illya in Fate
>gets manhandled by Rider
>gets sensually manhandled by Caster
>gets his ass slapped silly by Seiba

Oh Shirou
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Sometimes I feel like everybody on /a/ is 20 points lower than me. I'm always so fucking bored with the discussion here.
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>>146417808

Prisma Illya is probably pure

F/SN Illya is probably into a lot of kinky stuff, probably bondage and power play
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>>146417843
But all his sex scenes involve him domming the fuck out of the people.

Sometimes to uncomfortable levels.
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>>146417861

Why? Why not elevate the discussion instead of complaining how poor it is? You need to pull your own weight as well in here.
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>>146417889
He gets rimmed by Rider and likes it anon, he's a gay
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>>146417889
He's putting on a facade. A hero like him can't submit after all, no matter how much he likes it.
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>>146417889
>Sometimes

Usually. Especially when, while doing it, he starts getting off to them looking like children. I stopped reading the h scenes entirely after he raped Rin in UBW
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>>146417887
Prisma Illya wants to rape the maids and wants the jackhammer badly.
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>>146417900
That'd reveal how much of a fucking idiot I am. I can't do that.
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>>146417967
Bst sexu scene right here.
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>>146418101
But anon the best lines are right after that
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>>146417237
>living thing sits on lap
>Holy shit, this thing feels alive!

>>146417384
>He probably fugged Rider all day
He was raping Sakura, not Rider.
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>>146418380

Shinji mentioned in one route that he fucked Rider as well.
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>>146410633
type moon's way of saying that they disprove of loli route
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>>146417818

i thought it was pretty good, first half was a bit weak, animation wise especially, but second part was fine. Only part that was a bit disappointing was Angelica finishing off Gil's explanation of their goals, I expected her voice to be a lot more dramatic.

Really looking forward to next episode though, Illya, Kuro and Miyu all got great scenes in it and I have no doubt that their voice acting will be top notch. Just gotta hope the animation for the fighting can also be decent. It's obviously not gonna match the manga but as long as they can keep the quality similar to the previous seasons then it should be fine.
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>>146417755
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>>146418521

Mummy's very angry.
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>>146418521
HHRRRNNGNGGG MY DIIIIIIIIICKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>146417900
Heh

>implying that's my first post ITT

>>146418034
Instead of getting angry, it is in your interest to consider what I've brought to your attention. You can better yourself and make this board less boring.
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>>146418521
How does Iri got that pictures anyway? I doubt she called on her husband's son to take pictures of him after taking a bath.
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>>146413073
Even Diarmuid?
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>>146418727
iri has her ways.
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>>146418521
I want to fuck Iri
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>>146414560
>Maybe if she had both ruby and sapphire she would have a decent chance with 2wei form
She fucking won against EA in that form, she could do literally anything with that.
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>>146418946
Especially Diarmuid.

Thanks Sola Ui, you ruined my birthday. Fucking bitch.
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>>146419078
>fucking 2 year old cups.

disgusting.
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I want to head pat kuro.
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>>146419204

But Kerry made a baby with her.
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>>146419211
I won't stop with head hats though.
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>>146419192

She could probably only use it once though, so unless she managed to get into a fight with all the servants at once It wouldn't be enough to win.
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>>146418946
Absolutely, Diarmuid is best boy potential what with being a viking murdering mercenary and all.

I have no fucking clue what Urobuchi was memeing about when he made him all chivalrous when Diarmuid predates chivalry itself
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>>146419249
Wear else where you wear hats?
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I'm confused, lets say Miyu and her Shirou went back with Illya in Prisma world, does it mean both siblings are Illya's siblings?
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>>146419241
How did Kiritsugu and Iri even meet
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>>146419241
>wanting dirty, used cups
This is unsanitary, anon. Do you want to be like Zouken?
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>>146419249

What else would you do, tickle her tummy?
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>>146419498
Why doesn't Rin remove the shared pain curse from Kuro?
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>>146419498
Tickle Ilya's tummy so that they both feel it.
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>>146419618

Good point, you can please two lolis at once like that.
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How about head patting a loli that's head patting a smaller loli.
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>>146419719
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God damn it I'm so bored. This is boring.
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>>146419933
Want a dick suck?
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>>146419899

Headpat Loli-ception?
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>>146417818
I blame the lack of emotion every scene has, this has been a problem during the entire season, the VA are just not doing a good job during important scenes, the Thor vs Caster fight for example was awesome in the manga but it was dull as fuck in the anime. The preview for next episode gives me hope, Illya actually sounded like she cared about was it's happening.
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>>146419498
From the inside.
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>>146420003

Really, I actually found the voice acting to be one of the things that's done best,. In that scene both Mai and Rie are doing great, especially Rie is really pulling it off well.

The issue with that scene was that it cut out some of the important moments that ruined the flow, like Illya not knowing that it was sapphire she had picked up and starting her flying speech, instead of her just randomly running towards Beatrice.

I also feel the biggest issue the adaption has is that they try to adapt it a bit too directly, almost panel to panel from the manga, and it just doesn't always work that well.

I'm not sure why but most of 2wei(last fight against gil being the exception) felt like it fit better as an anime than 3rei does. 3rei got far too much dialogue during the battles that just doesn't work well animated. That and the fact that they could adapt everything in 2wei due to it's slower pace compared to 3rei where they have to skip important character moments to fit it all into 12 episodes.
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>>146410633
kill yourself you little faggot, that Ilya is dead.
This is the new one, you piece of shit.
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>>146412516
E rank luck
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>>146420608
This looks like shit. Is it worth reading / watching?
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>>146421050

If you actually really think it looks like shit then no, as it's clearly not intended for you.
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>>146421180
I'm torn because I like the loli fanservice, but every time I get a taste for the plot, it looks extremely generic. Just more of hacksan nasu cashing out. I have s1 of the anime saved in my backlog right now
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>>146412893
>At least with Miyu you don't get the rather creepy Incest thing
Yeah, instead she makes out with her suppressed subconscious and she is "BEST FRIENDS" with the girl who, by all appearances, is her own alternate-universe counterpart.
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>>146421435

When you put it that way...
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>>146415041
>HF Shirou is Miyu Shirou
HF Shirou was "I'll save Sakura, then everybody else." Miyu Shirou is "I'll save Miyu, fuck everybody else."
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>>146421250

If you're like LRD and only care about the loli fanservice shots and such then probably not worth it. If you want really cute lolis with occasional lewd stuff then why not give it a try.

As for the plot, it starts out as mostly as magical girl show with fate elements and does for most parts stay that way, at least until the more recent manga chapters. It's nothing amazing but it's terrible either, especially if you like the typical magical girl themes like I do.
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I want to protect Miyu's smile.
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>>146421250
S1's plot is extremely generic. It's basically just Cardcaptor Sakura.

2wei starts to get more interesting.
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>>146421764

You make it sound like Sakura is bad. Season 1 is probably still my favorite as while it may be simple it's a pretty damn solid magical girl show set in the fate universe.
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>>146421710

I*ll protect Kuro's then.
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>>146419719
>Ilya masturbate
>Kuro orgasms too
>Ilya stubs her toe
>Kuro suddenly starts cursing in public
>Ilya is aware of her tongue
>Kuro is miserable all day
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>>146412082
2.0? When did the first one air?
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>How come Illya doesn't get her own route?
>because she's shit
Ah yes, do tell me more about how the other characters are paragons of excellence truly deserving their route
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>>146419970
Loli loli.
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>>146422931
tsukihime vn 2.0
i.e. the remastered.
not the second edition of an anime that doesnt exist.
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>>146417887
>Prisma Illya
>pure
Incest porn and yuri
Plus maids, she damn near loses her shit the first season when miyu comes over dressed as one
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>>146424098

I have long given up hope of ever seeing the return of Tsukihime. And even if it does come out, we'll never get an English translation.

Does Type Moon even know they have a fanbase beyond Japan?
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>>146424226
no, because no one outside of japan every fucking pays for it.

Shekels are only in gook land.

Therefore us filthy gaijin dont matter
;_;
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>>146414263
It was the perfect end to the franchise, marred only slightly by the franchise not ending.
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>>146424185
>she damn near
She lost it. She really lost it.
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>>146411152
He's literally saying "I'm too lazy to write a proper one so have this garbage instead".
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>>146424324
This is true.
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>>146424429

Or more 'this guy is crazy enough to do it, I'll give him my blessing. That way I don't need to do it.'
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>>146410633
>Why does Illya get the short stick in every single Fate route?
Because Nasu is a lazy ass. He couldn't finish the Illya route in time so he just merged it with the Sakura route.
He probably was planning a happy end for Illya but just swept it under the rug.
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>>146410633
I agree with you, OP. In my opinion Illya is the best girl in the Fate series. Additionally, my opinion is that she is the best girl, period ( though I can understand why others would differ here). Apparently, her route got cut to save time in making the original VN and Nasu just never added it back on.

People have said, though, that her spin-off is her route. I understand that, to some, Prillya isn't the same Illya as in the previous routes from H/A, SN, HF and UBW. Prilya's personality vastly differs from Illya's. Prillya is sweet, kind, and pure and Illya's personality was marred by the pain she went through in becoming a master, losing her parents, and being dead set on killing her brother. Yet, under all the pain Illya suffered through, her true personality still remained. This is seen where she absolutely adored Shirou in SN and HF. I think that Prillya is what Illya would have been but for the life situations she faced. Of course, nobody yet knows how Prisma will end, but if it ends well then perhaps you'll get your wish after all and she truly will be able to have a happy ending.

I'm with you in hoping that things work out for her.
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>>146424605

I have to wonder, how much of Prisma's portrayal of Illya has rubbed off on her? So if Nasu did an Illya route now, would her personality cleave closer to her Prisma counterpart over the original characterization he wrote back in F/SN?
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>>146424581
And despite all that Illya still has managed to become popular enough. She's a miracle of the universe.
I'm glad Illya gets all the love, she deserves it.
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>>146424688

While not really her personality, her voice in the ufotable adaptions is a lot closer to her Prisma voice than her visual novel voice.
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>>146424769

Same Seiyuu right? Maybe she got used to voicing her for Prisma and just chose to retain that voice as standard.
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>>146424702
>I'm glad Illya gets all the love, she deserves it.

The lesbian one does get a lot of love, the original nah
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>>146424900

Who's to say the original wouldn't have ended up gay if she'd ever had a chance to actually be with other people and experience life? Outside of Shirou she never showed attraction for anyone, man or woman.
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>>146424798

Yeah it's still Kadowaki Mai. I think it's probably just that she got better since then, it was something like 8 hours between the visual novel and first ufotable adaption.

She's a really good voice actor for lolis. She also uses a similar voice to prisma Illya in Monobeno where she does one of the main girls. Which is probably why there are so many crossover fans between the two, and why this Illya doujin by the Monobeno artist sells for like 15k yen.
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>>146424226
They definitely know now. They've commented on the foreigners playing FGO. Hell, they even took one of the memes that started in /fgog/ and effectively canonized it in FGO events. They probably also know that the English release of Extra sold surprisingly well for an obscure weeb game.
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>>146424605
Illya was sweet, kind and pure with Shirou in HF. She always was like that.
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>>146425306

Isn't Extella getting a western release? Or am I mistaken?
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>>146425375
It is.

Melty got an English release on Steam a few months back, but I don't know how well it sold. I suspect it underperformed, and if it did then TM might not be looking to release more Tsukihime stuff in the West.
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>>146421684
Bah. Some of the art looks great, but I guess I can't expect anything better from the industry.
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>>146425477

I brought it. I like to support Type Moon in the west. And I fully plan to buy Extella as well.
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>>146425477
It got around 35k sales so it made 900k or so before Valve took its cut. Not sure how much was spent on the port but I imagine it was pretty cheap to make.
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>>146425662
>Not sure how much was spent on the port
Given how many typos it had and how spotty the netplay way, couldn't have been much.
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>>146424226
>>146424296
You'd think so given how soon Fate Extella was announced for a western release after it was even unveiled
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>>146425052
I love her as Rorona in the Atelier series
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>>146414068
Well if you read Fanfiction, someone already did that. Prism Mayhem, Illya, Kuro, Miyu and Bazett are pulled to the F/SN verse and the 5th HGW, Illya tries Rule Breaking Berserker to get rid of him, but accidentally Rule Breaks Lancer instead, gaining control of him. F/SN Illyasviel sees Illya as proof she didn't have to end up the way she is.
>>146411152
Nasu just technically hinted that all fanfics of F/SN are canon, but not official
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>>146426281
I read the chaos theory fanfiction, but that was the only illya one I read, even though I love her as best girl. As the pseudo illya route, I had a lot of fun with it, even though it is still ongoing.
>>146424605
Nice to know someone else feels like Illya is just best girl throughout everything as well. I dont find illya sexy or anything, or nice to fap to (I havent even once), but it's just something about her that draws me to her.
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>>146426281

Is it any good? There's a good reason Fanfiction.net is a bad name around here.
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Visually speaking Ilya is easily top 10 on my list of most attractive anime girls. God damn what an erotic little bitch. Other than that, I kind of hate her.

Her entire character embodies the exact opposite of what Shirou stands for. She likes things that feel good, hates things that don't feel good, is nice to people she likes and can't care less about people she doesn't know (regardless of their personality). She's literally a (wo)manchild who operates solely on emotions and possesses no moral compass whatsoever. This is why she attacks and potentially mutilates Shirou even though she knows nothing about him, because MUH KERYTUGU. This is why she shits on Shirou's moral dilemma in Heaven's Feel. Her mind genuinely cannot comprehend caring for people outside of her circle.

She captures what a lot of 4chan users hate in women. You're dumb if you like her because CUTE LOLIS LOL or you imagine yourself being a recipient of her love. She wouldn't care about you dumbass, she'd happily cut off your ball sack to relieve stress. Anyway fuck Ilya and people who unironically like her.
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>>146426492
Its pretty good, But with all fanfiction, you have to dig through shit in order to find a diamond.

There are a couple that I wish would become a manga, Chaos Theory (Illya Route) From Fake Dreams (Kiritsugu has dreams of all the fsn routes and plans accordingly) and Prism Mayhem (Prisma Illya in F/SN)[/spolier]
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>>146410633
nasu is a lazy shitter, it's as simple as that.

it's the same as satsuki in tsukihime, where you pretty much have a perfect moment for the game to branch into her route, except nope, she just dies/becomes a vampire and is forgotten.
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Do I watch Prisma Illya if I like Illya as a character but think magical girls are stupid and care more about Illya/Shirou than yuri?
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>>146410633
To teach pedophiles a lesson.
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>>146427424
Yes.
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She didn't find a way.
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>>146410633
it was needed
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>>146427492

Stop posting that because it's already a thing.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
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>>146427492
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>>146427710
Keep the hood safe H
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>post yfw there are actually people who don't like prisma illya

What, are you fucking gay?
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>>146410633
But Anon she doesnt need her own route, everyone already loves her!

But seriously now, author fucking hates her because she's a foreigner.

At least she's got the best thing to come out of this shitty eroge.

Prisma!
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>>146428923
>Because she's a foreigner
But blue-eyed blond medieval knights are foreigners too, aren't they?
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>>146429419

Saber has green eyes though.
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>>146429419
Saber isnt even a human being, she's literally a hologram made out of magic.
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What's Illya's cutest install outfit?
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How would you pronounce her name?
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>>146431817

In the German way.
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>>146431817
''best girl''
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>>146410633
She gets tongue action with Kuro. How can I pity THAT?
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Ilya is my daughteru!
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I just wonder how ailya sec scence would go? Full Femdom? Onii-chan deredere? Sympathy fuck? I would have loved to see it.
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>>146432310

I'm kind of glad we'll never know, because it could get really creepy when you're fucking someone who looks like they're 10 and has the body of a 10 year old. And a 10 year old's body is not adapted or designed to be fucked. The Pussy would be dry, tight and probably bleed as well. It hardly bears thinking.
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How strong is Prillya if she was in the F/SN setting?
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>>146432363
Its not like Nasu hasn't done it before.
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>>146432412

Servant Install, True Magic, the Kaleidosticks? Above average for a Magus, low-tier for a Servant.
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>>146432414
Len has the best ero scenes Nasu has ever written and some god tier CGs.
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>>146422574
Lol that feeling where you realise your tounge is too big for your mouth
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>>146432412
Rin with the Jewel Sword was spamming Noble Phantasms. Illya is a better magus than Rin so she would ptetty strong there.
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>>146432310
I just want Illya and Shirou to stay normal sister and brother. It's adorable.
Also family > bitches
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>>146432894
>I just want Illya and Shirou to stay normal sister and brother. It's adorable.

You and me both brother. I think even Illya herself would prefer that if anything.
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>>146432941
>Illya herself would prefer that if anything.
Ilya sits on Shirou lapp while he's tied to a chair in the dit real talk they've even had in F/SN universe. Prisma Ilya Universe Ilya want's him so bad her subconcession form tried multiple times to seduce him. There's no "Normal" for Ilya when it comes to her NBR Onii-Chan.
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>>146433031

That was before she actually knew him and before he knew who she was.
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>>146432218
She's not realu
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>>146433031
That's because she's a brocon, it's a bit extreme but still normal.
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Speaking of Illya, how the fuck did Prisma even get four seasons?
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>>146433496
Fatefags, man. They're the only ones whose shitty eroge got full length adaptations for every route. It's not surprising that Prisma gets the same treatment.
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>>146433496
Nasu is funding the anime from his pocket. That's why he doesn't have money to whale in FGO and get all his waifus.
He deserved it for discarding the Illya route.
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>>146410633
I'd give Ilya my short stick, if you get my drift.
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>>146433664

Well he's certainly going to love the announced Prisma event in F/GO.
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>>146433496
It baffles me as well. From the BD side, it looks to be selling shittier and shittier but I guess it's just drowning in a million other avenues for revenue and merchandising.
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>>146432310
You were going to be able to choose whether she would wear black or white lingerie in the H-scene, which would probably result in her being dom or sub respectively.
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>>146433726
I remember someone has posted a tweet with something about Nasu and elementary school girls.
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>>146432414
>>146432492
Now I want a KT anime adaptation.
Even an OVA about Shiki feeding Len cakes would be great.
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>>146433820
Yep, BD sales is not only the measurement of a successfully of a series. Merchandises actually matter more.
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>>146433820
It's why I have no doubt in my mind that this shit will probably get yet another season some time down the line.
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>>146417730
>Sakura is into dom

Well her inner self is both maternal and frosty, so it conflicts. So more switch than S.

Rider will probably tell you that you don't want to awaken her S fully, you probably can't handle it. And this from Rider, who is a switch with an actual blood fetish, a literal fetish to drink people dry of blood as you saw in her ero scene in Hollow.
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>>146432363
It should be quite moist as long as you excite her enough actually. It would also only bleed if she is virgin, which is normal no matter the age.
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>>146432492
>the best ero scenes Nasu has ever written
The competition isn't that difficult.
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>>146437160

Unless you are into bruising someone's internal organs with your dick, there are better ones.

Sakura and Shirou's second and third scene in HF is decent. And most of the ones in Hollow are a significant improvement over FSN.
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>>146424467
No. Prisma Illya is a fucking joke and he knows it.
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>>146428055
They read Fate, so yeah.
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>>146437457
Still better than anything Fate related.
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>>146422574
>that doujinshi where Kuro learns that for whatever reason, she can transfer back anal pleasure to Illya, so she starts anally masturbating a lot
>that moment when she shoves anal beads up her butt and sits down onto it when Illya starts bothering her about why her butt feels molested, causing Illya to cum and pass out
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still better than sakura
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>>146438936
she doesnt even get short stick she only get worms
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>>146426664
Hill of Swords by GB got me really interested in reading fanfiction.
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>>146431706

Caster, definitely.
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>>146413957
>I've never read HF but I'll pretend to know what I'm talking about.

Fuck off, secondary.
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I want Illyasviel von Einzbern to kidnap me and make me into her doll!
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>>146431706
Moesassin.

I wanted to say one of the others, but I just can't. Never before have Hassan's clothes been so moe.
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>>146411203
That's lewd.
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>>146448840
Get these jokers out of here and bring back the cups.
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>>146449882
>That feel when some mages run off with your favorite cup
It's like, how am I supposed to drink coffee now?
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>>146410633
Because the Einzberns were retards who decided it would be smart to summon one of the goat heroic spirits as a shit ass berserker
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>>146431706
Berserker fuck it's happening eventually > Assassin > Caster = Rider > Lancer = Saber
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>>146451219

Yeah that's actually how I would rate them as well. Hopefully berserker is something like this.
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>>146425306
Thats all Sony, Nasu is the xenophobe who refused to being the VNs multiple times
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Only one.
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>>146451652

Damn that picture is great, that lancer butt and back, caster thighs and rider smile. Too bad about the text on it.
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>>146451652
MUH
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>>146451219
Oh shit forgot Archer. Put that just below Assassin.
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>>146410633

Why do i get erect by that scene. Any more anime where girl get absolutely rekt?
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>>146410633
Because time and money were not enough back then for Nasu to finish Illya route so he mixed it with Sakura route making Illya the best part of it, along with Kotmone, but not giving her a happy ending as compensation.

I would love to see that Illya get a happy ending. And no, Prisma Illya is not similar in the sightless, neither is Kuro or Miyu, they are all completely different in everything but the body.
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>>146452911
>in an alternate future, Sakura's route gets completely scrapped and we get Illya's route in its entirety
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>>146452245
Meh, Archer is Kuro-tier now.
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>>146431706
Honestly, Illya as Archer's kinda cuter than Kuro. Sure, it's just Kuro taking control of her body, but it still counts as an Install outfit.
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>>146412516
What about Assassin ? He's the only Japanese hero and he doesn't even appear in HA.
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>>146453544

Don't think I can decide which one I like the most of them actually, both are great.
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>>146452993
>Prisma Illya would still exist anyway just because of how much of a miracle Illya is
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>>146452993
>scrapping best route
In your dreams.
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>>146453595
Assassin appears in HA and even gets a girl though.
He has also become the biggest meme from GO. His tittle as the dragon slayer is almost official now thanks to being included in so much events.
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>>146456009
Face it anon. Everything in HF that's good wasn't originally in Sakura's route.
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>>146456081
Pretty sure Sakura was originally in her own route.
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>>146410633
She gets her own anime, 3 seasons, and a plethora of doujinshi.

Worth getting rekt in fatestay.
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>>146452690

Sex when?
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I want to give Kuro a hug.
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>>146456261

Wrong

Sakura was in the Caster route originally

True fact, absolutely no need for verification against any valid source
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>>146458594
i want sniff her pussy
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>>146410633
Well, at least she got two lesbian fuckbuddies in her spin-off.....
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